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And also not always, anyways. I tested bulwark and I could not get in the same q
O right I never do normal modes⦠I didnāt even count those into the que lobbies I counted XD
Bulwark is a horrible example 80% of the player base hated it
arguing against power based matchmaking is also a weird take
nobody wants to be 30k power with someone 90k in a strike and not be able to kill an enemy cause theyre all already dead
How did d2 handle it again?
How else are they gunna get their MVPās
Thatās what I meant, one good thing they had was the logic for strikes but itās been a while
d2 had power based mm too but they also made a lot of activities gatekept by power now so its hard to compare
nobody like ran strikes to farm things
@naive ingot
weapon crafting ate the game
I remember being able to compete using my old under power gear?
in what though
For things like heroic blitz/normal mode raid I donāt see the point in separating ques by power. A higher level player can carry the damage easy enough, just need people who can figure out mechanics. That isnāt really a power gap thing (minimum power level requirements one exception if they are going to make it so hard that they die one hit from a rapid fire enemy).
Urm hi
Litterally just strikes
like if you dont have a good build in d2 and someones running some meta prismatic hunter build
their single melee throw will clear a room before you can even shoot your gun
especially in strikes where mobs have less hp than like the jangshi metro thrall
Not far off how we are tho, this already happens I donāt see how itād be a problem
Strikes in D2 now pulls everyone to the power of the one with the highest
That is what I want.
Thatās a horrible idea
Maybe for d2 but not Dr
It's what they do
Even make them a little harder. Not like d1 heroic levels but, maybe like a mild hot sauce with a bit of a kick
1 more week to go before adept strikes and blitz is unlocked
Power base matching for things like Cordon, or later prestige/adept content I can see an argument being made for, as it is suppose to be the hard content. But normal mode/heroic power splitting would just spreads out ques more.
It's just gonna be a joke like adept legendary campaign tho :(
Legendary campaign made me sad.
When are GMs coming back man
Thatās why d2 merged them like Gwynn said. Not that far off imo Iām sure they have similarish lows too in player count
Depends
We could underestimate the mobs and get our ahh kicked
Nah with it being called adept I'm assuming it'll be the same difficulty as other adepts
Which I was literally speedrunning and doing without artifacts
They def gotta balance it better. Again, in a way that is oddly satisfying. Itās just like the menus, they are failing to get ppl addicted.
Idk why they are so afraid to add hard things with good rewards
Bc they donāt want to discourage others. Which in and of itself creates a problem, bc those others never get the chance to learn how to overcome the challenges that would be the problem
Are you getting uppity bc i'm downplaying your reckless, sad investment into mobile games?
Reckless? If youāre broke just say that
Ascension is not the game breaking addition your making it out to be
Were you actually defending the game š and not baiting?!
The spectrum is real on this channel, too many discord lifers taking things too literally
Bro just be word vomiting
A duel of the trolls.
Bro just be buzzwording, get back on X and peddle slurs. You give off the type 
It is a kind of catch 22 with gacha games I think. If you make things difficult and lock rewards behind it it is āpay 2 winā, but also if you donāt there is no need for grinding.
I think our contest raid was even labeled P2W (as you needed to unlock the units).
Whatās peopleās preferred characters for spike shell singularity farming.
Not a single brain cell was used in this comment
Not difficult to the point of requiring T6 but just, you know, not capable of being done without artifacts on
Go whine some more about āascensionā being the āreasonā you canāt get mvp lil bro
Also contest mode is not really p2w idk what those people are on about
People will say anything but will lack the skills to do mechanics
This loser thinks I'm crying for MVP, either way nice b8
Or crying for anything, one comment about his spending habits and he's raging
Thank you I put like 10% of my effort into it
I like how we're all just chilling here while these two boneheads go at it
I am not disagreeing with you, but there are a loud players who if they canāt do it it must be because they didnāt spend⦠not because they arenāt willing to figure it out. We should still get hard content and imo need it, but this is possibly a mindset that developers have is all I am thinking.
The poor shouldnāt be commenting on how people spend their money
Those 2 ladies need to find a room
Similar to every other effort in your citizen life i imagine
This wouldn't be destiny without some kind of community drama
Then make something with fair play permanent :)
I really just think the next update should focus on getting players hooked. (One will come out on top, let them fight for dominance)
I've been saying for so long keep the hard mode raid around with weekly rewards
John net ease won't let me have fun tho
I mean youāre the one complaining about peopleās spending, you should probably go get a job bub
Dude got mad over clowning ascension, now they're flexing their tax return investment into Destiny Rising
That 2k went a long way little bro
Phase 8 will likely give us that
Hopefully
Congrats
Bro is whining because he canāt keep up with this ascension āpower creepā
Should take your own advice
I barely seen anyone with ascension tbh
Same, he made it out to be a problem tho for some odd reason
It's probably only useful for getting a few more stages out of expanse
Meneither, the point is Mr. MinMax Virgin took it to the heart
Thatās what Iām talking about! Final warcliff copy on a 5 man run. Done with this boss
Like most fragile egos on this server 
Letās rewind a bit
Actually tho some of them give less damage but like 15% DR which is very strong
Genuinely a skill issue
Helhest was one of those
Who even buys ascension for the stat increase? I did it for a cool signature
That 15% won't do much without some other DR to back it up
Over exaggeration, but you want to argue otherwise so you can prove whatever idiotic stance you were trying to make
Yes but with other DR to stack it will be insanely strong
As if i'm complaining genuinely about stat increases on a gacha
Yes that was my original point, you were over exaggerating then threw a fit when I said so
And i called you out for being uppity
Because you were
And thereafter a virgin, given the context of your responses
You'd use the 35% standing still, then unrelenting evolution, and with that extra 15%, holy it's gonna be strong
I do like the idea you have, make hard mode with weekly rewards. Give once a week a 100% exotic drop chance or somethingās. Mods/clusters/something that takes forever to farm.
I want it dropping photons so I don't have to get the 1.5% š
Lmao your ragebait is atrocious, go work on your stats lil bro, gotta grind hard to pass up those people buying ascension
Or bring back energy and take away the artificial grind. They just traded one for the other
50%? That's alright until the bosses get some kind of bs dmg boost (netease will do us dirty)
Yeah you can grind more stuff and āplay longerā but it also comes at the cost of normal destiny time sink instead of a mobile game
Problem with energy is if you miss a week or so you're behind
And if you took a 5 month break you're cooked
They could have just let it build up
No
fair I guess
Or kept it how it was, use energy get a lot more rewards. No energy make it how it is now
Idk how that would work for new players tho
Weekly photon drop would be nice XD.
Ong
Or a few that are guaranteed
We have āweeklyā but still the caps and drops suck
What did that have to do with the comment about making hard content that is rewarding?
A great example of how I realize I'm talking to what is mentally a child in an adult's body, everything is a ragebait. Too much tiktok and discord yapping, you should slow down.
I forgot did the weekly ones that have the boosted core drops also have increased photon rate?
If you donāt have rewarding hard content or base content itās not a single problem
The game just isnāt rewarding once your āweeklyā drops
Are over
āWaaaahā āa child in an adults bodyā
Add pinnacle energy back = less new lights or remove pinnacle energy = more new lights...hmmm
Tell that to the 6 exotics I got in 30 legacy runs lol
It literally takes 5+ hours of grinding a legendary campaign at 2:45 a clear to max a weapon
For 3 drops a run
yeah it's rough
the only grind that sucks rn imo is artifact refactors and exotic cores. Everything else is at or better than when pinnacle existed
Iām not saying that there should be no energy farming thatās great, Iām saying though by removing energy they have essentially inflated and drawn out the grind way more
Clusters are farmable, no more fruits, easier ways to get mods...
Yeah those are the two things you need the most haha
Weapons aren't an argument because it's really easy to craft them upwards. Tho Gen's luck sucks lmao
We just need a better way to get artifact material and exotic materials instead of the same mission for 5 hours once weeklyās are done
Nah weapons suck to get
Bruh itās been 4 rotations now I just want that one last roll for jeziba š Iāve failed 4 upgrades
And no one wants to play a 6 minute shifting gates game and Que for 4 materials
Artifacts aren't horrible at least chaos is mindless fun
Exotic cores can f off tho
compared to when pinnacle existed I'd say no. The thing is there's a new grind ceiling but you can still drop exactly what you used to get when pinnacle existed
I just miss being able to synthesize a bunch of choice engrams a week
I have used 40k mythic parts and hundreds of engrams for TWO guns and don't have the roll I want for either one yet
Because there's like no choice engrams for some reason they're all random
This is a lie
the perk roll or the perk upgrades? because i'm comparing weapon drops to pinnacle's system where we didn't have to roll for perk upgrades
Not even upgrades the perks themselves
Sometimes sacrifices have to be made in exchange for something better
damn, there's no way you're that unlucky
Since they're random engrams and I for whatever reason get every gun other than the one I want
i literally have gotten everything i've wanted lmao
try just focusing the weapons on strikes and blitz? i know the random can be a pain but that's been my best luck
I literally dropped two uncommon weapons from one shifting gates run it was wonderful
it was present fleet with upgraded polyploidy twice lol
I do not play or care to play estela
i think Umeko knows that you're abandoning your devotion for her
she is doing good right now
Devotee of Efrideet
gotta love clearing impact and spread expanse with erfrideet
Efrideet role when š
Her blinds make higher expanse trivial
That and she's completely invincible when you dash
I'm jumping around taking hits from 3 wizards and boomer knights and it does nothing
I just have to find a way to break the impact shinkas faster with efri then I'll go for stage 43-50 on impact
Almighty Traveler pls bless us with a void rapid fire mythic
hello team, how are people getting Destiny Rising to show up as their discord activity, while ALSO showing the activity they are currently in? closest I can get is "Android device" and renaming it, but that still won't show the activity i'm in. Is it something MuMu can do?
I been using gwynn for that one
Void precision š
but you see using an actual impact character would be too simple XD
I thought the rumor was bee keeper was going to have atleast one rapid weapon
Going by the sig 2 ability either rapid fire weapons or something else
Scout/ fusion, source:trust me bro
I think that is just a perception thing. Our rewards, non weekly, are still compareable to pinnacle from last season. The weekly rewards are there more so that players donāt feel they āhaveā to grind non stop (appealing to the mobile player base). There is enough resources each act then for a player to focus on gearing up one unit (besides photons). But the grind is there mainly for the min maxing. It is basically more forgiving then what pinnacle farming was last season but with a few more things to farm (mainly weapons/mods and Emanare board).
the only thing that the weekly boost adds for strikes/blitz is a chance at an exotic mod
that's literally it lol
Alright alright, bow/ fusion
if its lemonarque sure
Nah nah rerun trinity ghoul
That thing is goated
Meta fr
I instakick HH that donāt run ghoul
The big weeklies I feel are Morganās and legacy, but I feel like those are made that way so any player can get at least one units skills/weapon mods maxed per act. Donāt think they would ever allow that type of quick farm for an endless grind system. Maybe raid for the condensate/15% exotic mod chance.
Most HH are like the softest pillow you can think of with terrible durability
She sure does got some soft pillows
You can still max one out for the low price of 180 BP tokens, 7 photons, and 370 (or whatever) exotic cores
sounds like my HH since I dont use her XD
and my estella tbh
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Itās a joke fam
I bought hellhest for the āaestheticā idc about her damage
I honestly hated on Estella for so long, but sheās pretty goated
I unironically t6'd her and estella for the vibes
Surrreeee the āvibesā š
She just been dead because rapid fire hasn't been needed for so long, and calamity was so easy that ning could run thru everything without dying
Thatās valid idk I guess I just like how summons characters feel
I atleast used HH during her season but after my estella hit adept 2 I went back to gwynn that season š¹
@river vigil I also T6 Estela the day she came out for the vibes and now sheās meta
tbf back then jaren didnt exist so gwynn had the smoothest feeling kit to me since everything flowed together
maximum usage š¹
not even 2k kills
Damn. Iāll need to check mine
Real, I honestly wish Gwynn was more viable her kit looks fun to use, idk I might just t6 her this run around I was gunna skip but her kit is fun to use from the looks of it
As long as sheās decent in solo play Iām happy
Like Estella, Iāll probably never use her outside of most content, but itās fun using a cool looking character for frontline farming
she's still fine in solo content as long as you arent power suppressed
but anywhere with competent teammates she might be a deadweight
Yeah but Iāll just use the usual meta slop for most end game content anyways
Sad fact is rapid is falling way behind in the meta
At least in terms of cordon and expanse
balls
I'm meta slopping it up right now
Yessirrrr efrideet is my fav rn
Anyways I need to get back to grinding infusion cores, may rng bless all of your rolls today
true I need to go back to chaos to improve my chairoscuro and plasma artifact before reset
š yea whoever said do this with randoms lied. This b unobtainable
this crap lowk sucks
balls
balls
honestly doing it with randoms is just getting lucky and finding 5 other people that have seen a guide and know how to use their thumbs
Impossible
but it is still easier than me getting a normal mode completion with my pack š¹
The ones with thumbs crash out and leave
Next time netease should only have the emblem obtainable by these events.
Im sick of doing that second encounter. Ive done it like 5 times this week helping pack and friends šŖ
And third one i have experienced every bug imaginable, even killed the boss 1 time just for it not to count š¤£
this is my biggest struggle right now š¹
you just need one pack member
you would think thats easy wouldnt you
leave ur pack and join someone in the normal runs you're doing
if it's genuinely a problem that none of your guys are playing the game you gotta make a choice
The beekeeper will probably save the day
I might do the first part of that ngl @limber pine
I have my issue now is finding the pack that wants to do the raid XD
Lmao sure
Been maining Estela, She just canāt run lol
they gotta bring back the goth mommy ad campaign
Did they fix Efrideet's character quest?
Supposedly yeah
The existence of Conjugation on the new grenade launcher seems to imply we are getting a solar spread character soon.
For character trailers I think my favorite would be Jaren>Gwynn>Maru>Estela>HH. I feel like specially Jarenās and Gwynnās had the most character to them.
Which of the new exotic mods are most worth targeting? I primarily use piercing characters but it could be worth branching out a bit if they nerf weapons crossing into other shinka counters.
Funny u tagged me. My pack ran it last night without me LOL
@vocal hawk i can hear the accent
š mines worse
They ran it with someone else over me
Oh lord have mercy š„ŗ
Last triumph I need is pack vs dragon or whatever it's called
Lucyyyyyyy can I dm you
Sure
Come be a sinner lol š
Necrosis demands it
Lameeee
Fug downhill without threats
That's crazy
Anything where people actually play content with me tbh
What happened to threats
I'd play with u if you weren't the ops lol
He said last night "corndogs the best pvp Rossi ever, when you joinin my pack dawg"
I remember lololol
Idk
Fug is now a collection of packs
Sadge
And still itself. The server is the most active Iāve seen
Sin is now a pve pack cuz our new leader said so
Necrosis isnt even leader
Nah
Who took over
Angelina
Isnt that his girlfriend?
Idk lol
š
Ask her and see what she says š¤£
Lemme ask em in our gc lpl
š¤·š¼āāļø u know who isnāt in a relationship
Alot of people
How would I know their personal life we just play a mobile game together lol. But I asked š¤£
No you did not š š š¤£
Yeah I did lol
Oh no brooo
Ima tell corning said yall was dating
That was everyone pickin on her since launch
Corndog*
Lol nooo dont
Hello Chat
Lol ill just tell necro I thought he was a pimp
Ya know how to keep him liking ya huh lol
Him and I are alot alike in ways 𤣠he is a cool dude, people just dont have thick skin these days
Easily one of my top5 fav people to pick on
He just be tilting people so easily lol
He so good at it, im trying to learn how to hook em without even baiting first
Oh yeah he gets it done to him too and that's also a good show lol
He popped in discord 30 seconds and had like 10 bros on him
Most Hated pack for a reason lol
Thought that was QS aka 23?
Nah 23 is like most loved if anything
I dont mind it I'm just waiting to see if the artifact substat rates improve at higher phases
Nah fr
If a 23 pops up everyone like "omg they are so majestic and beautiful "
QS had some banger toxicity going on and 23 took them guys in
If a sin pops up people are like f you
People forget the doxxing and the bashing for lifestyle choices
Were you even here for that?
23 is good its just that um. Well. Pvp hasnt been updated only downgraded.
I came when HH was the banner
Like all the ppl are over the top nice.
2-3 dudes is it too my knowledge
Especially jordan and bootii
exactly
S1 Shifty Gates drama had a bro from QS doxxing someones address and everything
Tons of slurs
I dont think thats in 23.
And its not in sin.
Does that answer ur question where it went?
He namechanged and was in 23 before quitting or name change again
Any mods online?
People do be acting crazy then name changing š
quit
I caused that one.
Whaaaaat
Compii quit.
What was his og name again?
Lucy made hell break lose one time if I recall
He quit. I think i just did what i normally do, just trying to be nice.
@hushed crown
Yes?
(Was just alerting you of the spammer.)
I think it was jealousy that caused it ngl.
Ah I see makes sense
You've been successfully blamed btw
For what
The dating thing
LOL
probably bc i was likely one of the top pvp players at the time. I mean i was running those solo, and i was pushing the top players who were stacked. I mean that skill is long gone, but back then, I still cant hit those shots i was hitting.
This weekend ain't over yet lol
Name gonna be popcorn soon
Need to resolve that beef for the sake of pvp in this game.
We got enough rivals lol
Rather see all of the packs work together and not against eachother ngl. Crashouts arent gonna convince the devs to fix it. I mean there is a line between toxic and rivals.
What PVP do you prefer Iron Bar or shifting gates
I assume the former
They removed sg. Its bot gates.
Me personally, I just go for Corpseking every game all game.
Lol sure 𤪠not many big names left these days. I used to be considered good š
Glad you said this, most people do this for some weird reason tbh š¤£
Tell me about it, I miss farfaa
Was always fun to play vs
Yep I'm always a target too if certain people play
Farfaa will be back
I cant play it anymroe tbh. I need to warm up some days.
They be ganging up on me lol
There is no sbmm
I dont ever feel like a target, I blame my bad positioning on my deaths
So if you go into iron bar, as a newlight, like i did, you can face the top players. I faced bootii.
Nah I watch people hunt me down trust lol
I actually tested it.
I can make em chase me for a while too
Yeah, swim with the best or die like the rest
TheShowOFF be coming for my berrys
He still be on
Exactly why I dont respect high kill counts. Back in the day, there used to be some good pvp players. They didnt need newlights.
Bruh clan is coo
Tell me abt it
Bro some people got auto jump on istg lol
Fr fr, these new lights got smoked š
Someone we know left that game, was a full 6 v 6 at start
I cant remember but it was someone we know
I kept calling those rounds 23 vs SIN and i showed up for Necrosis 𤣠š
You know we did like a scrim night vs 23/LoCa
LoCa š
@thorny frost you put me to shame good stuff 
Farfaa
Japan
Booti
Showoff
Value
Someone else I forget
Was their 6
That's a stack and a half lol
If i had been able to connect on pc that would be a differnt ending tho.
It was just we killed the IB que and it kept putting us vs eachother
Lame
Thats the biggest issue for me rn is i cant keep going from platform to platform.
Checking it now, been dusting off gwynn
Just play on iPad with mouse and key ti bypass pc lobbies ngl
I was able to hold out a little bit when estela dominated pvp.
The fair play differences get to me too.
I almost wish theyd take the modifers from chaos, minus spiked shell i think, and apply those at random too it.
There is no shame for anyone who uses her even a little bit. I have just played her in spread expanse/grandmaster/raid farming since her release. Besides support I have always played summoner type archetypes in games⦠canāt pass up a dragon summoning version.
Someone raid cleared
That was my thoughts too
did what?
no i got efrideet
congrats
i only had to buy the battle pass for it š
Oh lol
NOW i just need ikora 5*
I got Efri for free the night after clearing the raid on hard mode
Is there a way or glitch to finish the legendary campaign fast itās boring to farm 2 exotic core
ill have guaranteed Hairkora in the coming days too
On the 2nd stage there is a way to do like 2 min runs
Is there a video ?
@twilit thistle
It will help a lot
Show him da wey
Yeah, Iām the same. A solar warlock who summons a dragon was šÆ
oh i need so much glimmer
if we miss out on completing the great hunt event are we locked out of fully completing the challenges and experience season quests?
the challenges/triumphs, no, but you wont be able to get the hard mode emblem anymore
alright so it wont be like i cant get the 40 free universal condensate?
aye yo ty lol
If i can do this u can do sub 2min
Dang u beat me by 2 seconds lol
222 was my best on efri
does that skip and spawn boss
No, I think you probably can get the condensates
I wanted to make a joke about ur pfp, but apparently this server disallows ordinary names from being said?
Like, I cannot say the name of the character otherwise the message fails to send
These good base numbers?
To hit the 330 for the tier 10, all you need is a 38 for your void boost on your next artifact, and a 33 for weapon enhancement. So it looks pretty dang solid to me.
once it is 5*
lol 3/4 near max "is this good?"
Apparently frat on the new bow giving movement speed boosts does not synergize well with HH's drone boost.
Move too fast for the speed boost to apply.
The artifacts , bruh šŖæ
Also a big win. L T characters banners are coming back !
Estella is next after Gwynn
Is crota's end going to come back?
please estella please
The built-in traits giving move speed on the emanare abilities also do not seem to work.
Melee gives 20%, ability one gives something like 16% with the gem giving an extra stack.
Iām hearing Re- run banners will have their own pity?
Probably might do something like the Kabr and Ikora pools where you can use limited or unique draws.
guess we learn in 4 days
thx
Thatās what they were saying. That it will have a separate banner like Kabr
it will have its own banner but it should still share pity with all limited banners
relatively new player hit team level 90 today. But idk artifact grind to get a 4/4 is insanly boring to me lmao
Separate banner, but where did you see them say it will have a separate pity?
Spike Shell definitely helps, especially if you unlock adept so every round ends with a boss rather than an objective.
Spike Shell, Close Quarter, then switch your ability to charged melee since one of the gems is a buff to your melee damage.
got to 55k power but struggling to push further atm
How are your weapon mods?
It seems small but each weapon gets something like an extra 4000 power from maxed basic exotic mods, so on both that's an extra 7-8k right there.
maybe doesnt help my friend gave a spreadsheet of exact rolls to go for so havent gotten any of them yet, so the power grind has halted almost to stop
Good enough rolls are better than nothing. Chaos also helps since artifacts are a significant power spike.
im logging on to show what i got for now
since resets tomorrow and i didnt get the exotic crossbow today
I am currently getting an extra 30k power from my artifact setup. Not quite maxed yet, but I think I have the rolls largely where I want them.
oh great this one them cant post screenshots in discord/discords
Just lvl up buttercup
Ehhh I think im ok to just not on second thought lol
Np, do as you will
Symmetry and a mythic linear or mythic scout and Contravene?
Contravene
Best way to farm ascension cells?
Is this for Rossi with void?
(never resets) is what broke me. So essentially you will never fully upgrade anything for free?
Think the loot system was a little "over tuned" like that raid was 20 of those campaigns and not a single photon and nothing to show for that.
Yo how do i gain permissions to post in wolf pack recruitment
Chat more and level up
The worst part of the never resetting for me is that I know level 100 is coming at some point >.> I can handle the idea that with each level cap the first guns are the cheapest. Also it should be added to raids as a reward farm imo, not just a weekly thing.
Should be dropping these mats at random regardless of what you play. Its too strict.
Can someone post my pack in recruitment
this is what ppl beg for grinding their hearts out without pinnacle
The free||loaders||to play playerbase maybe?
Nobody wanted it to be this strict tho thats the truth. After trying, its near impossible to progress. (and stay sane)
Balls
Balls
@bitter estuary
BALLS
This is digging into my chaos farming
balls
Balls
Rossi is dead, Darius is our only hope. Its for Gwynn
Chat did jarren die in his missions
||no||
What happened then?
He won
Interesting
Uhh
Bruhh
Morgran hunt or what punk?
Oh rn?
So my thoughts was that as a farmable spot raids would be good, as there is very little repeatable farm that would drive people to it. Kind of like strikes/blitz right now (Luminate, spelling?, ore could help with that).
I kind of want them to add anything to the front line drone drop table XD, or add some mats as random drops from enemies too, even if rare, now too.
I can hop on, I only having Efri ready
I only have jaren rdy
1st step, condensate should have a chance to drop everywhere atleast for weekly reward attempts
It costs 81k BM tokens for x5 š
Y it keep doing that? Sometimes red sometimes purple
What tag do I need in my wolf pack recruitment
Are you on rn
Add it as a 2% chance from all multiplayer chests/.1 % chance from any mob killed in the open world. I wonder how many that would end up being an act if it was something like that.
Ts is confusing
Yes add me friend
Iron bar drops mythic weapons, keeps giving me double mythic perks
It needs a weapon pool selector of like 4 or 5 you choose that you will rng get 1 of
Arenāt we already friends on there?
Iron bar rewards still needs improvements imo. It looks like you get a max of 2 mythics per run? Sparrow racing is more than that :/. Still think the shifting gates currency, even just like 10 so it isnāt as good as shifting gates, would be good there.
I'm waiting until I have maxed cloudstrike to do Morgran's, what are the modifiers this time around?
Same as kabr's i think
Use estela tho and get the one that gives u extra damage if u use a debuff. I hit crazy dmg numbers on estela earlier
It becomes purple if u donāt get the bonus
So the bonus this time is 6 precision kills I believe
Never seen it do that in the past tho
Oh it has been like that in past as well. Just means u always got the bonus before
But yeah when bonus is missed and failed it becomes like that
.
I still haven't finished building Estela š
Need to farm more essence
My glass dagger build was melting.
guys i got mentor tokens 3x in a row where do i document this for the nonbelievers
I think i got more dmg on that then hh, but only bc my teamates were so bad on hh.
Idk if those r the right ones tbh i think conversion is on hh, ooks the same tho lol
isnt safeguarding just worse than bellicose unless somehow you have 100% uptime on overshield and the corruption cast is doing actual damage
oh no
It does way more dmg
Who was it that taught me that? It was a cracked estela
the corruption cast?
@cursive depot
I need to try safeguarding blazar, I just don't know if I like the potential uptime problems. Maybe I'll just keep a copy of safeguarding and bellicose
maintaining overshields easy minus i guess high undergeared expanse
but i dont get why 46% summon damage always would be worse than a non 100% uptime 45%
Oh its lucy proofed. @thorny frost said it was 10k heals. Taniks debates whether or not the perks are correct, which is why I wont talk about 1 and 2 beyond that tho bc. I dont want to summon an angry taniks.
I have 100% overshield uptime essentially. If not im dead. It was the difference of 15 to 20 seconds on the expanse runs where I was testing these out.
Iirc bellicose doesn't buff accidents so maybe that's why
Honestly the heal would be over 10k, as conversion isnāt 100%. You gained 10k in an instant (could be a couple heals added together but that is extreme no matter what for her).
that makes sense i guess if the difference is the mistakes
or accidents whatever its called
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46% summon doesnāt affect corruption or the explosion from the Tier upgrade.
yea its the mistakes damage that makes sense
The explosion adds up to be quite a bit too, specially during Super phase when corruption rate is increased.
that isnt attributed to the summon?
Nope
cursed game
I tested before update and after season 4 update, I havenāt tested since Thursdays update tho.
Im not entirely sure what it was. I took the slot 1 off to see what would happen, and i saw similar healing but not nearly as potent, and it didn't have constant uptime. I theorize its the healing perk, and slot 1 is also potentiating it.
It is like how misfortune doesnāt count towards conversion when attacking with weapons, but does count when you use the ability. (I assume the heals count as being done from weapons damage and not skill damage, and I assume explosion is considered Estela damage and not summon).
My last comment was semi directed to this XD
@indigo solar remote connect to my pc to diagnose when
so bellicose is just terrible on the only character that might want to use it
that is NOT poggers
It isnāt terrible, it still does ok. It is just that it isnāt as potent as we thought early game. Safeguarding does require overshield tho so for harder content you could lose damage at most inopportune times.
if you want better burst itll more or less always be up anyway
unless you somehow miss your corruption
Lucyās heals in the clip they showed me were insane tho.
plus the shield stat just gives it to you if things are going bad
Burst yea, but corruption can be lost in mobing situations by killing to many XD
yea i mean mobbing isnt gonna be a big differentiator anyway in that regard
cause who cares if youre doing less damage on red bars and stuff
mostly just matters on like high expanse ogres with 10 billion hp
High expanse was the area I was thinking of.
well i mean you can lose your overshield in high expanse but if having it makes your damage significantly better its not hard to maintain
The damage can be brutal at times for her when there are a lot of Mobs (floor 43 terror right now).
But yea, I plan on farming safeguard blazer starting next week. It was a build I wanted before but wasnāt willing to power up artifacts before when I had an almost maxed set for Estela.
Is there anybody that's trying to complete today before it's over? I'm about to hop on for at least 3 hours and I'd like to complete it. I know how to do the beginning.
Most are like this tbh
Devs need to lock in and get more devs atp there is still more they can fix in the game without adding content
From testing and simple math over 50% of the artifacts are just bad or can be beaten by others.
its fine i just got it in 3 choice engrams
If thatās Estela u donāt even want weapon. Super is better
eh for expanse i strongly dislike half the affixes with weapons that dont do damage
killing arc shields on estela rn is pain
I think it will depend on content. Super got weakened this patch, so weapon has a bit more viability I think now.
I think it was around 7x more dmg, that the summons and super does. Super melts. I depend on it in there. I struggled to even take out red bars when I dropped it
i have been in the mines and only one good artifact
i have another decent one but all the others have vulnerability perk im tryna get rid of
I rather drop solar boost. Weapon enhancement is still pretty good overall
Taniks-san, the GachaGirlā¬š„[IN] said ādamage, solar, signature, superā.
That's what I use for lv 5 of whatever replaced calamity ops . Might be different for higher levels or for t6
but... her weapons and summons and super are all solar
why would you replace the one that buffs everything and not the one that buffs weapons
I did say solar boost not super
and i did just correct myself
š¤·š¼āāļø itās what Taniks-san, the GachaGirlā¬š„[IN] said to do is all I am saying. Itās known to be false info to go against someone as dedicated, and deep into the math of the game itself. You canāt beat it, itās dmg, and thatās all they do is focus on dmg.
no crit damage in there is weird
well its irrelevant what his opinion is in the context of the content, supers gonna be good for boss melt for sure but for the 90% of the content where my super isnt up or needed id rather my guns just like do more
why is there a tan and wolf š
i can see an argument for super in like high cordon for boss dam or specific boss encounters in expanse but at that point you just keep a second set
It rlly doesnāt make that big of a difference. In prior seasons I woulda said the same things. I was roasted for having it
yea i mean dps testing supers always gonna win
Estela has a rlly good one, and doesnāt have a shotgun tho
Bro people roast you for the dumbest things nowadays. Saw people in the game chat calling every build trash because they don't have 4 gold thumbs up on every artifact lol
š when I need Taniks-san, the GachaGirlā¬š„[IN] and they are mia
lmao is this why i couldnt get next step
@signal spade so I went and tested belicose again, and yea still not affecting explosions. The 93k was from belicose the 110 was from mysterious. They were the only artifacts I changed (and in theory Belicose got more damage from solar boost).
they'd hate my build then XD
yea i can test now i have them both maxed
but it looks like itll just be better to have summon+ability rather than just autos
Same, don't think I'm going for perfect artifacts until they drop lv 100 ones and we are able to max them out. Would hate to grind again š
Dps tests donāt even show numbers for accident triggers or explosions XD testing her is always fun. Note how each of her ability+ weapon damage doesnāt equal up to total damage dealt.
when the level 100 ones come out youll see the banner for 110
Please don't joke about that šæ
thats not a joke lol
Are you for real? Are 110 confirmed?
level 100 more than likely a september activity i also doubt theyll not let us upgrade to 100 after this backlash
and numbers generally will go up as time progresses
If level 100 be released, we will probably get 110 in similar time after that. They designed the systems (including the old one) to be refarmed.
Trying to upgrade the artifacts next season gonna be like
Honestly the old system would have had a bigger backlash āwhat do you mean my maxed refactored artifacts arenāt maxed out anymore?ā
Pple will always find something to complain about
I prefer the new system overall
Same
Well dang.... Hope they let us upgrade them at the very least. The backlash with the lv 90 ones was already bad enough lol
There is already a caveat to upgrade artifacts tho. As before upgrading an artifact had a chance to already change one of the stats. U can correct me if I am wrong here Tac
Once I remembered that artifacts stats were rerolled when you leveled them up before it didnāt really matter to me that we couldnāt level them up. I prefer needing to get a new set and only 350 refactors vs leveling up and needing over 1k refactors
No joke that's how the emanace system or whatever it's called looks to me
Artifacts I think they need actual menus to support the changes. Overall banger tho. Exotic weapons tho, absolutely the worst experience š Iād rather have pinnacle than run those campaigns
Yeah exotic weapons imo are the worst change. It takes so much longer to farm the bottles with the adept time gating
I am not looking forward to exotics when level 100 is reached. The snowflakes will be a pain
Itās bc chaos isnāt the same thing every time
Just let us pick to get it from chaos š like morgran
Also the cost of upgrading the star tiers of exotic weapons are gonna be pricey come phase 4 and 5. The lattice gonna be rare
guys!!! it's chaos farm day!
I don't know if it's because the difficulty went up but spike shell strat doesn't feel fast anymore
Still gotta wait for phase 5 for prestige stuff and phase 8 for prestige gauntlets
with the boosts it's like 300k, and just spamming your melee button throws infinite tracking melee tracers
through walls even
Might be power level but it still feels fast to be. Avg of 1 min or less every 3 stages depending on the boss stage
Plus I love spike shell cuz it takes out all 3 vex bosses from the rotation. Especially that damn Minotaur boss
Xur: "The Nine Wish to convey a message: Don't forget... You're here forever"
For me the best one is the ability 600% recharge speed. 1 or 2 skills with ikora or efrideet clears a room instantly
Can't wait til season 5 team level 100 and artifacts being back to 1 star.
One thing netease def needs is better communication. Everything just comes last minute or as a surprise (e.g Gwynn rerun announced just 5 days before hand) all everyone does is speculate about the worst case scenario of the system of things until they clarify how things will end up working
95*
They already have a filter for level 100 artifacts in quick dismantling. Might not be that far off.
Occulation whatever itās called gonna get a 2nd release 2 weeks before s5 like kabr 2
95 doesn't sound as cool. A lv100 cap would lure in more people.
Occulation essence the resolute.
HURRY UP TIME, I NEED TO BE PHASE 4 NAO
I managed to snipe 3rd in piercing. Now I can go back to trying to kill impact shinka's while 7k light under for an hour
I do this all the time, provides the best angles and you can shoot enemies under the bridge where they'd normally be impossible to hit
Are you talking about the option that starts firing as soon as you press the R-fire button? No
for efrideet are we goin cloudstrike or crimson ?
I'm going crimson but thats because I'm using chairo+healing plasma as my defensive artifacts
cloudstrike is fun tho
The one that when u let go it shoots
For a question is Till Eternal Death good? Itās probably not the best
Okay yeah no penalty for that
@limber pine
Did they buff Estela? Saw her dominating leaderboard
how do I get more ascension cells
š
yes
š
Bru
Artifact attributes:
So... If Transferimg Atributes stats From a lvl 80 to the lvl 90...
I need to Click Upgrade on the lvl 90 and transfer those lvl 80 to the level 90.
Yes?
x1 from SH-Gates Per week
x10 from Whishing coins
Per Week
She was modified very slightly, machine guns damage were buffed slightly too. But in general she has always been good when she doesnāt need to run.
Doesn't need to
?...
just stand still? š§āāļø
that's not my VIBE... Human.
lol I meant mostly that she doesnāt speed run well.
I like to ā¬ ļø and āŖļø
Chaos is trolling me hard. All I need is my artifact 1 slot to drop without health boost. Every single drop has had health boost
Unobtanium.
yep, very unfortunate
Slacking
Only good person in the fireteam was u š the other Umeko just stared blankly at nothing and got us wiped.
I think a few folks walked into the wrong fireteam lol
oh wtf i thought the raid was gone already
š š„
I will forever push against adding more raids to the game. This is the 3rd time ive gone thru this. Its unobtainable for the majority of players.
Efrideet works like a charm in Expanse
yeah shes busted
Recently grind expanse and made it to lvl 30. I want to work on Estela for rapid fire
O dang I was thinking the great hunt lasted till maintenance for some reasonā¦.
i was doing 40 at 16k under power and not dying cus of her dash
the damage resistance is wild
Mechanics so easy, that the playerbase stop trying to read and just wipe instead
honestly i was disappointed with great hunt mechanics, unless they changed something from contest mode which i didnt get to do
the aura is an inconvenience at best
Anyone farming 2nd enc?
no but i could always use more clears
Okay so now that I have her, who's better; Efrideet or Estela
Two pretty different roles
DPS wise
depends
š
estela is great for sustained
Need one more
Efri will take out enemies faster, Estela would do much longer term damage for like bosses
Efri more adc and estela more boss dps?
With Efri i can take out shinkas in one shot, but like if i was fighting the boss on second encounter of the new raid I'd take estela
That's kinda what i'm sensing out of that
yeah
plus you can just hide behind walls and let estela's summons do everything lol
efrideet is great for big targets but idk both are pretty damn good for add clear
but thats kinda estela's thing is add clear so
I'm having a lot of fun with Efrideet in Singularity Chaos if that counts lol
i mean... fun is a factor but chaos isnt exactly the hardest content š
With how long we have to spend in chaos...
Idk, Efri and Estela fit two separate roles in my head
i use umeko cus her dash makes me move faster to the portal and snipers are the best way to do chaos imo
Efrideet is good for everything
Estela big ADC/boss DPS
i mean efri has a sniper too but
She's literally the only character you use š
Estela does get gallows/heir
lol she replaced my ikora
Spread shinkas? Old prefect. Rapid Shinkas? Crimson. Impact? idk man whatever in normal content tbh
Is TED really all it's worth grinding for
Give me your best t6 Estella and Iāll put dps her anyday unless itās FairPlay
That's actually my major question
Yes very much so
yeah buy me T6 estela and we can figure it out
@gray crypt i feel like in most cases you'll enjoy Efri more than Estela
Gotcha
we love ted
I will now somehow grind 50k power on efri
TED is really nice with the IST3, you don't really need the third catalyst since your goal should be hitting 5 precisions and then switching to sniper
@limber pine hop in queue
oh my GOD i'm glimmer poor
I absolutely need to do something about that because i CANNOT upgrade without it š
Iām more so referring to efrideet being better for boss dps Estella is just a better t0 for raids
I was kidding but honestly that seems fair
Her super and summon spam is just to good
Heroic public events are 60k, you can get 500k/week from Shifting Gates exchange, Jiangshi metro vendor trades 25 world mats for i think 25k
I'm just glad i got ikora too before her thing disappeared
oh i have to play shifting gates that's ruff
only 1 game
What server are you on
Add me Iāll carry
I mean, the heroic public events are better than shifting. It's just an option i was listing as one of the better sources
he's using you to farm exotic infusion cores lol
Iāll get your efrideet in tip top shape
Dude i need them too dw
just use efrideet with cloudstrike
Gates is unironically better at getting cores than legendary campagin
but i want to use TED :(
she is so unfair but also really fun
i also don't own CS rn
get it
Cloudstrike is a good f2p option but if they already are going ted they should focus Ted
OH can you send me an efri artifact build pretty please with a cherry on top
i bought the premium+ pass already š
OH OH OH, should i use my BP tokens to buy another TED or save for an exotic i don't own, cause i kinda want/need furies to try for Estela
I used eggs early one to get the gun fast. Big mistake for me š
or is dvergar drill good for ikora
This is a good build overall, itās also what I used for the raid, but Iām going to swap around her 1/2 for a cordon push. Going to need Dr so Iāll probably swap it out for some
No go truth
hmmmmm.... i haven't played since season 1 before this š
Wait why didn't i genuinely think of that š
But if drill is what you have
no no
Then go drill itās fine
i can buy either one, i just wanted to know which was the better option
Yeah truth is your best bet then
With solar lgl
Or arc lgl theyāre both good
Honestly now that she has more primary options i might actually switch... As soon as a get cat 2 for truth at least lol
everyone is getting tlord holy
GOTCHA GOTCHA
well thats 2/3 weapons done but idc about wardcliff
Same but i want to complete the poke-dex
i really would rather not have to farm 3rd enc with randoms
oh boy i'm going arti hunting
Just wait till reset and use your 3 boosted weekly chances
do i want arti hunt first or glimmer
youll get glimmer while doing chaos no?
so
Arts
i was gonna say i can't but i realized i can
Dang I thought phase 4 was tomorrow. Is it next week?
time to get all 4 exotic because i'm using double chances on every chest I can
its in 2 hours according to the thing in game
In 2 hours
You sure? I was confused because of the other timer on the bottom. Or is that for something else?
That's only if you don't do expanse 30
Timer on the bottom is only if you donāt do expanse
Yes I'm pretty sure
Complete ANY of the following quests
The wording is pretty clear
Oh okay makes sense now. So the as long as you do the objectives that are in grey you can get into phase 4?
Sorry playing mobile games has took away my ability to read šæ
Gacha players can't read, true
Facts
Weāve been through this 3 times already, Iām sure
Me, but Iām at work rn, Iām down to do it tomorrow tho just add me, ign is GenArrows
hihi
Hello miss viper, did you ever get that team together for the raid?
Bet Iāll hop on later and add you
no bc i chose watching The Boys over everything else bahahaha
I still havenāt watched anything past season 1
waahhh
I need to watch it lol, Iāve just been watching to many other shows
Hey
Now I need an egregious amount of glimmer
The actual content of the raid was 10/10. But that being said if u just set a glass vase in a box with no packaging and ship it, that vase isnt going to come in one piece.
I would focus mainly on passively grinding it for now and getting it from exchanges lol
But I have about 2 mil in reserve so Iām not one to talk
so my team somehow won by 400 points
or like 350 but it wasn't close
bots
Turns out two ikoras and an efri kinda roll
Yeah shifting is full of bots
s**tty gates is not real people
oh ez pz then
Iāve been running into a few more players but ikora will steam roll them for the most part
The goal is to get to both anomalies so you can get max rewards
hey does anyone here know if theres been any updates concerning a port to pc?
No
yeah
He will constantly ask the same thing
i just wanna stay up to date yknow
I see, sisyphus has joined us
how do yall do deep expanse way above your level
Damage reduction, spawn knowledge, ability rng, damage caps, and dedication
be efrideet
with both ikora and efrideet, I feel like I'm hitting damage checks even when I don't die
had to do 19 boss repeatedly because it ate the dmg until time ran out
efrideet is surviving (yay) but hc feels low damage. though I guess that's on me using crimson, I'm not done with bpass ye
yet
What are you running
And what stage
And run the bp hc anyways, only gimmick that really matters for the bp hc is the 100% damage increase
All other catalysts arenāt needed other then for maybe having higher power for power suppression but depending on what your stuck on it wonāt mater either way
Crimson is pretty strong on her as well.
Crimson is good for most content, but not high level expanse pushes if theyāre getting stuck at damage cap the 100% extra damage increase is a must
Tbh Iāve seen a few people running borealis for first 60 rounds
I havenāt tried it yet personally on expanse pushes but Iām going to give it a shot here soon
I might try once i get my efri into a good spot
Iāll invest into it for you if you want that way if itās dog poop you can save your mats lol
mats?
materials
ehh i wanna upgrade borealis it was my fav exotic sniper in D2 anyways
Bed bath and beyond floor mats, thereās just something about the materials they use
Real

Holy balls it's Xuan Wei
what does this mean i've tried campaign rewards and bonus rewards and it hasnt worked
You have to do it... in an adventure...
Did anybody else not get either of these completed despite actually doing them?
i did chaos and campaign and took bonus rewards
arent they both adventures
No
at least not last i checked
oooookay that's weird
I guess do like a legacy or a strike or something
o well
@cobalt beacon hey so the free character at the end of the season do they just give it to us or is there something you have to do for it
@cobalt beacon
@netease
@cobalt beacon huh?
Gotta 100% 3 of them
where is this screen at
ok im gonna look at that instead of playing the strike i am currently in
i feel bad for killing everything when new lights are here
hopefully they fix the great hunt one
ok so why can this not go on shotguns
this would be so good for jared
it's prob for smg build like ning fei
I'd say having it on impact is a cheat because you can't shoot long in the first place
but they literally made a impact perk for more damage when close lol
I love shifting gates with zero people in it
Phase 4 unlocked woooo
who tf added this mario kart powerup ahh modifier to morgan
idk i joined mid thing
BRO I CANT FKN SEE
im actually gonna kill whichever teammate it was that picked this
Yeah shifting is boring
I like how Efrideet is in 2/4 of the quest sections⦠so, no free characterāyou need her to get the 40 condensate.
Trying to do adept III but wonāt let me because says I need to upgrade
But wonāt let me upgrade?
Yo, can anyone drop some tips on how to grind Light fast past 70k? My weapons and character are almost maxed out, but I'm stuck. I keep seeing players flexing 90k Light and I have no clue how to push mine further. Any legit way to boost it?
Emanare and artifacts
everything.
Basically that
i have artifacts lvl around 2900 each (90lvl ) and maxed emanare artefact on lvl 2 (cuz i cant make xur 20 stage) and still for example on ikora have almost 72k, on umeko 71K , is there a cap on artifact upgrades for Power?
2900 artis are low but definitely not the only thing youre missing to only be in the low 70s
ahhh so in this case what power i should have?
hard to say tbh
just, ANY way you have to increase your power, do it
okay
You can always check in the character section what you're missing
if you have a weapon thats still only 1 star for example, even though upgrading it is only a couple hundred power, upgrade it. they add up
Everything's showing up as above recommended for me
nah thats completely useless after 70k
sure i will check when i will back to home
this is so expensive š