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[slow olive]

Antecedent with Vorpal + Ransom/Antecedent is amazing (I don't have this)

[brittle plover]

Does this mean healing bonus will replace defense? Right?

[slow olive]

Even then Zico w/ Barb and Horror's Metabilism looks baller

[vast arch]

yeah it will

[brittle plover]

Perfect. Saw a video and someone said it’s not actually random so I was hoping you’d say that

[remote grove]

Oh well I learned something new then lol

Game doesnt explain things v well

[vast arch]

The random part comes from having less than 3 matching attributes. If you only had 2 matching then it would select a "random" attribute from the donor and replace a "random" attribute on the new artifact

[brittle plover]

Right that’s what I thought from what I learned

It replaces one of the stats with a “random” stat that’s already on the one ur transferring from but if there’s only one possible switch then it’s guaranteed

[slow olive]

In terms of elemental exotics we have:
10 Solars
8(+2**) Voids
11 arcs
2* Multi-Elements

While seemingly overwhelming that additional 4 new arc exotics were kind of needed

I think I may have been miscounting

Yup I am definitely miscounting every now and then

[twilit thistle]

@visual rain I think i have broken chaos on weapons master atp. The build i made this time was so overpowered it was silly. I got hit with capture zones or that woulda been so low

[visual rain]

thats basically the same stuff i was using, just on born equal

also W randoms

[twilit thistle]

Sustained spread upgrade is op.

stacked with concussion its legit cracked.

[visual rain]

holy s**t we arent 1 phasing how is this even possible

[stark forge]

just dunk the balls 3 more times then 🤣

[visual rain]

that was a 10 minute clear

[delicate mango]

Lol

[twilit thistle]

so i gave umeko an ar and a rocket launcher... @indigo solar

[bleak pelican]

alr sup folks

[visual rain]

thats crazy

[summer ledge]

What all changed between contest and normal, exactly?

[bitter estuary]

mostly no aura

[shadow ocean]

no aura at all

[slow olive]

I like how Shifting Gates and Legendary campaign share the same weapon farming focus

What I don't like is this isn't explicitly told

[twilit thistle]

Wish it would drop random stuff too like essence or cores for all activities.

[cobalt beacon]

dirty cheater here

[candid phoenix]

anyone figure this challenge out? it doesn't say an encounter and i just did it on 2nd but it didn't count

[vast arch]

I have no idea. By the time I completed the regular title that was already completed for me

[candid phoenix]

damn i was just about to ping u

it's either gotta be second or third, there's to many dunks on first for it to be a challenge

[vast arch]

It's not 3rd because I never dunked in that encounter

[candid phoenix]

[vast arch]

I dunked a lot in 1st though that was my main job

[candid phoenix]

guess i'll try in first, thanks

[rotund flame]

True, if you aren't one of the 3 that get teleported you should get that challenge easy

[vast arch]

Just don't rush the door and you will never teleport. First person through the door goes to the mirage

[chrome relic]

Would anyone mind helping

Me with my build and like telling me what I need to do or what mods to get ?

[versed scroll]

Which mod is the best for Ikora-H?

[chrome relic]

Pm please if able

[wind spruce]

Hey

[twilit thistle]

Holy unplayable content cloudstriker is unobtanium with randoms

[vagrant depot]

I mean, i got it on my first run

[twilit thistle]

And the other 3 required?

[chrome relic]

Very nice

[stark forge]

hvelgemir even worse farm than gugugaga

[twilit thistle]

Oh I have to see how bad it is now.

[stark forge]

no one knows how to dunk ball on correct plate 😭

[vagrant depot]

Just used the engrams to grab the final three I need

[twilit thistle]

no wonder the q times are infinite

[vagrant depot]

Lol

[solar narwhal]

how do u get adept weapons

any knowers

[twilit thistle]

Perks with double extra perks

2x

[limber pine]

Upgrade uncommon weapons successfully

[twilit thistle]

I spawned in without anyone bc they left and rage quit over nothing in the matchmaking screen.

They don’t even give u a chance

[visual rain]

Do u need assistance

[solar narwhal]

wait

how does one do that

[twilit thistle]

I’m good. I c now why the q times got longer on other activities 🫠 hopefully the community rebounds and learns

[visual rain]

ok good luck

[river vigil]

for packs and dragons does that require a fireteam of only pack members?

[rotund flame]

Yeah lots of people rage quit over 1 wipe lol

[vagrant depot]

I've been trying to learn, but haven't had the time nor the people to teach me

[twilit thistle]

We didn’t even start the activity

Premature ragequit

[stark forge]

game is pretty much failed if half the team dont know mech

[visual rain]

I did it with only 1 person if it's the triumph I think it is

For normal title not gilded?

[rotund flame]

The 2nd and 3rd part of the raid are the worst for randoms quitting. At least you can brute force the first part on easy

[visual rain]

2nd hasn't been horrible so far

3rd is rough

[twilit thistle]

1st and 3rd. 2nd one Estella mains can carry and they are everywhere

[stark forge]

2nd only worse if ppl dont stun boss or not killing quick enough

[visual rain]

Yeah I end up having to stun and kill stuff and do ball sometimes

[rotund flame]

3rd is rough because it requires at least 4 people to know part of the mechanics

[vast arch]

I’ve been teaching people to just ignore the boss on 2nd. So much faster and easier

[visual rain]

I like to stun first plate just because timer is a bit tight

Other 2 ez

[twilit thistle]

@vast arch if we can get together and I can use the camera, I can make a guide.

[vast arch]

Yeah I’m down to help with that!

[empty kettle]

The 3rd encounter I had to guess where the symbol was due to my teammate not using the ping system while inside the ball, so far I got 2/3

[candid phoenix]

anyone's great hunt rank change? seems like anyone at least over 27 min went up by one today

NA servers

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar would also be mandatory as a backup photographer cuz I’ve seen some of those photos

[visual rain]

Possibly cheaters being banned?

[fallow mirage]

How do you do 3rd encounter without a mic? Or is normal mode different from contest mode?

[rotund flame]

At least with guessing on easy you don't wipe lol

[candid phoenix]

nah rank didn't go down it went up

[visual rain]

by up you mean higher or lower number

[candid phoenix]

went from 31 to 32

[visual rain]

oh wtf

[candid phoenix]

so like down in the rankings higher on number

[visual rain]

strange

[thorny frost]

We have been waiting for this day.

[empty kettle]

And I will still end up wiping due to how my teammates use their brain

[twilit thistle]

you and @cyan tide gotta start dumping those screenshots with 0 context in main chat. Its time.

[thorny frost]

You are one of the few Estela who has out dpsed me in my runs of the second stage.

[twilit thistle]

Did u see i also beat @balmy raft

Its mostly the artifacts and way too many issakis runs on her ngl i learned how to max her dmg in low lvl encounters like that

[vast arch]

They have been fixing the leaderboard times. We had the second fastest time but it wasn’t added until earlier today.

[thorny frost]

I did, but they were using Hairkora the one I saw tho.

[summer ledge]

I had forgotten how much people were willing to put into a single character.

[vast arch]

And it’s still wrong. Our fastest time is 14:44

[candid phoenix]

Oh I did see some dude saying his time wasn’t put on the leaderboard

[vast arch]

You can do the whole encounter without a mic. All of the comms have pings

[visual rain]

you dont need a mic but good luck getting randoms who know how the mechanics work

[balmy raft]

chill you caught me lacking

i honestly didnt expect estella to bake that hard that was my 1st normal run lol

[twilit thistle]

💀 it was one of my first too. I was like "why is he running hairkora?"

[limber pine]

U was #1 yesterday

[vast arch]

I know. Zombie’s team found some tech last minute and passed us up. We smashed our times but they ended up being faster so props to them for sure

[limber pine]

We finished after the deadline unfortunately lol

[vast arch]

Aw man that sucks

[limber pine]

So many bugs ngl idk if it's cuz we're mobile or what

Without bugs we saved a day ngl 🤣

We were forced to 1 faze final encounter otherwise 1 of 4 (or all 4) bugs would occur

And second encounter don't get me started with thr orb bug.

[visual rain]

idk about contest but even on normal 2nd feels buggy

[vast arch]

Yeah the bugs were crazy. 1 phase was necessary on all encounters lmao

[visual rain]

like the big dude will spawn before the boss gets to the next plate and if u kill big dude he respawns

and boss dash being goofy

[limber pine]

Did anyone get the sparrow bug on 3rd?

[limber pine]

Gotta slow down or it response him lol

[visual rain]

yeah but its stupid that it just respawns

[limber pine]

Oh for sure lol

[visual rain]

it seems intended but feels buggy

[limber pine]

I love when the orb just respawns too

[visual rain]

i love when it teleports through the ground for no reason

[limber pine]

I love when u can't pick up the orb and only your teammate can so he goes into call symbols

But then u can't pick up the orb to go to lamps

[trail jolt]

i was raging at 2nd encounter

that was pised me off

[limber pine]

Or when after dmg phase he starts running full speed sideways to the lamp so u can't stun him

@old bridge tell them about that one lol 😆

[vast arch]

I thought the colossus double spawn was just part of normal mode 💀

[limber pine]

Boss turned into a tight end for the nfl

[visual rain]

fr the pickup range needs to be like 3x bigger

[limber pine]

No bro not range u physically cant

[visual rain]

picking up the ball is like doing surgery on a grape

[trail jolt]

lmfao

[visual rain]

ok well that too but the pickup range sucks

[trail jolt]

dude i hate the ball

Why is it so buggy on the second encounter

[limber pine]

It randomly just says naw u can't take the orb, oh and if u can't and someone throws it to you... well it falls thru the floor

Still, 3rd encounter sparrow bug is the best 👌

[trail jolt]

no

[misty marsh]

these irons are so painful

[trail jolt]

how is the new hand cannon exotic

[visual rain]

i just wiped 2nd encounter 3 times because people dont know how to throw a ball

[river vigil]

the same 2 people messed it up

[misty marsh]

it's nice fr

[visual rain]

were u there?

[river vigil]

unfortunately

[twilit thistle]

I mean i feel like i can get it better ngl ima try another build 🤔 This time: what if umeko had two tailed fox?

[visual rain]

that was so bad

[river vigil]

I got to watch someone timeout the ball because they wanted to type

[misty marsh]

but cloudstrike is much nicer than the new hc

[visual rain]

I SWEAR BRO why was he yapping about the other guy messing it up just to cause a wipe himself

[candid phoenix]

You can slide run all the way from pedestal to pedestal lol

[trail jolt]

ya i have it and it is so good

[visual rain]

this guy ran across the whole map instead of throwing it and we wiped

we should not have to stun but i guess you have to when people cant press 1 button

[candid phoenix]

Just if you don’t trust the randoms it’s an option

I was able to do it on Estela, any character with a speed boost could probably be faster

[visual rain]

yeah well not much you can do if they dont let you grab the ball

[tranquil sparrow]

yo what's the high end a artifact can roll? 45?

[visual rain]

45 yeah

[tranquil sparrow]

ok cool

also, is that 2nd transfer tag, is that the one where i can increase the roll to the new relic, keeping my old attributes

[vast arch]

Sounds like we need a group to farm some encounters lol

[cyan tide]

It transfers the stats of a different piece, it doesn't necessarily increase them

You need to get a piece with higher base score for it to be an improvement

[tranquil sparrow]

ok sounds good

sorry for spamming basic questions, idk what changes i played last when gwynn came out

but is the method still expanse chaos

[visual rain]

TITLE DONE

omg they made the gilded count retroactively

this is huge

[trail jolt]

??

[visual rain]

what

[cyan tide]

They always make it retroactive in the end

[visual rain]

nah it didnt do that for the first gauntlet

as far as i remember at least

[cyan tide]

I meant more so the season titles, more recent ones are usually retroactive from the start

[visual rain]

dude i just watched this guy take the stairs instead of throwing the ball this is wild

[rotund flame]

Yeah lots of people are afraid to throw the ball for some reason lol

[twilit thistle]

@vast arch Im glad i checked 💀

[brittle plover]

How do I equip the gold name in front of my hero in the lobby?

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-gif-10061070920122192479

[brittle plover]

Got this for efrideet last night

[visual rain]

damn thats perfect for ning too

[brittle plover]

Got this for ikora too

[brittle plover]

U right

@visual rain what’s ur build on umeko rn?

Is this good set?

[visual rain]

1 sec and also wtf is ponderant plasma

[twilit thistle]

Ive torn so many of those down ngl its sad we dont have more invetory space. I had to have torn down like 10+ of those in s1

[brittle plover]

Apply debuffs get dmg boost

[twilit thistle]

No

[brittle plover]

What’s would be better?

[visual rain]

inverted fury

and bellicose 4th slot

[brittle plover]

Why is that better?

[twilit thistle]

I mean u can use it for farming i guess but if u rlly want to hit high dmg #1391469379853619282 has my umeko build in there, taniks helped me math it all out. U can replace ring of abundance with nimble, and get overshield perk which allows for near 100% over shield uptime. Hawkeye 4th maximum dps (and inverted)

[visual rain]

weapon damage scales better than damage bonus or something idk, question for taniks

[twilit thistle]

Hawkeye is the king now after the changes ngl. But- but

[visual rain]

so u want weapon damage for umeko

[brittle plover]

Okay

[visual rain]

yeah hawkeye will always be best in slot if the situation comes up

like njorun maybe or issakis

[twilit thistle]

Valiant veil is compatible on: Ikora, jaren, new girl, umeko, ning. So it does have more use currently and is almost on par with hawkeye if you are just trying to get them all built.

[visual rain]

for umeko tho i still think bellicose is so much better

more damage more uptime

[twilit thistle]

Hawkye is 100% uptime tho

It has no conditional cooldown

[brittle plover]

Basically, was farming for efrideet but figured it’d be good on new ikora and umeko too, haven’t played since game launched so trying to multi farm yk

[visual rain]

well yeah but hawkeye isnt for general gameplay

its really only good for bosses

[oak temple]

why is Wardcliff so bad?? WHY????

[visual rain]

just get a good mythic hawkeye and thats all u need

[brittle plover]

Since the arti changes I’ve scrapped every mythic lol

Ain’t wasting precious essence on mythics

[twilit thistle]

I want to t6 ur umeko so u see the pain we have with gaze.

Ur gonna cry one day.

[visual rain]

?

what does t6 have to do with that

what pain

[brittle plover]

So close

[visual rain]

same just 3 more :(

[twilit thistle]

It means every time u spawn in its ready to go

[brittle plover]

1st is better right?

[twilit thistle]

patron

[brittle plover]

I already have bp tho

And the tree of blessing

[tranquil sparrow]

you only get 300 silver compesation if u have the battle pass already too

[twilit thistle]

?

[brittle plover]

I have it

I have 60 of the rock things and can’t make up my mind if I want my 1st copy of the dverger drill or the last copy of the new hand cannon. As an efrideet main I want the hc lowkey

[twilit thistle]

Go for it just buy patron first then premium 2nd next time

[brittle plover]

I have it bro, that’s what I’m saying

[twilit thistle]

Ik get the one u wanted is what i meant

[brittle plover]

Ohhh okie

[twilit thistle]

The new thing. I forget the name

[brittle plover]

I mainly want the new crystals so one day I can get Jaren or maru

[visual rain]

are the green circles which bonuses that character gets or how does this thing work

[brittle plover]

Everyone gets the bonus I’m pretty sure, green circle just makes the bonuses stronger

I THINK

don’t quote me

[visual rain]

this whole system is so confusing

[brittle plover]

Better than the dang fruits

[twilit thistle]

They are so small, we dont fully understand them yet. Taniks even admitted there is not enough data on it yet. Taniks does not say that lightly. U want the one on the right btw it has a movmenet speed based one that we are prediciting will be meta.

[brittle plover]

Fruits made me and my buddies quit the game

[visual rain]

but bottom has weapon damage

[red geyser]

so how close to eos this game is/was?

[visual rain]

also i dont see movement speed

[twilit thistle]

Weapon damage when its like 2% is nothing. Its all conditional too if i remember correctly. Thats why movment is meta, if you have played ark SE you would know about how it scales differently than other things. (its a gem btw)

[compact jolt]

Real, I’m so glad they’re gone

[twilit thistle]

+4% movment speed and +4% weapon dmg are two unequal choices. Movment speed is always the better pick.

[visual rain]

i dont think its conditional? and if these values stack this isnt "nothing"

oh the movement speed comes from the gems i see

[twilit thistle]

(Note to upgrade them it takes btw)

[visual rain]

i thought u meant prioritize upgrading right path but if its just gems then yeah ur right ill select the right one

bottom path is useless for gems

[empty kettle]

That will evaporate fast once it gets more expensive

[rotund flame]

I'm wondering if it's worth upgrading that's path on the web. Seems like a waste if it's just going to reset

[twilit thistle]

POV: you run out of them.

[bitter estuary]

t3 kabr :3

[twilit thistle]

The fact taht you didnt keep pulling for t7 hairkora despite knowing you have all the balls infurates me.

[bitter estuary]

i can finally reset my monthly card

[brittle plover]

lol

[bitter estuary]

im back to 60 pulls

😂

[brittle plover]

I’m out, run some with new in a bit or nah?

[bitter estuary]

you balls

this is standard pulls

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16258174987336597266

[twilit thistle]

I bought some of those deals after I got her just bc the ships convert, and it was a good deal

[bitter estuary]

ok balls

[visual rain]

why do i get good roll on bum artifacts

[twilit thistle]

It isnt all 40s. I tear them down lmao no regrets

[visual rain]

actually

i need to test this it could be good

30% damage bonus when gain overshield

i did just say earlier u want weapon damage not DB but hey u never know

ok nope it sucks

[tranquil sparrow]

is the best way to farm artis still expanse chaos?

[visual rain]

there is one way to farm artifacts and it is still chaos yes

and get ur choice engrams from expanse

[summer ledge]

Almost to grandmaster on Kabr the Second. Just need about 2000 more.

[tranquil sparrow]

cool ty

[twilit thistle]

So i gave umeko ttf

[buoyant orbit]

So like how do I go about "Interact with new light" this late into the game? Any feasable way?

[visual rain]

uh

whys it not working

[summer kite]

Need 2 purple things, its auto-compensating the 4 already

[visual rain]

i see now the game is just lying to me

[buoyant orbit]

18 is less than 20

[visual rain]

why would it say 18/20 then also say i have 4 choice things who made this UI

[buoyant orbit]

it counts your 4 boxes in the 18

[visual rain]

this is gonna take so long to get these im realizing

[buoyant orbit]

not really?

[polar atlas]

wassup yall

[visual rain]

theres like 20 more nodes we havent unlocked yet tho and theyre all gonna take leaves and clusters 😭

[buoyant orbit]

you get like 12 sheafs from a legacy run

yes, you have months to do it

its a grind. people complained there wasnt grind, now there is

it also resets every season

[polar atlas]

whats that the diablo board thing

[visual rain]

legacy puts me to sleep

need hard mode to drop more leaves

[buoyant orbit]

it takes all of 45 seconds to run legacy its fine

[tight talon]

[buoyant orbit]

i spent like an hour in it today and i'll have enough for the season and some for next season

[visual rain]

how did bro get 3x outdamaged by a level 35 clanker

[wheat barn]

So when are they gonna fix the Efrideet campaign mission? They wanna make us pay and such but won’t fix a bug

[empty kettle]

That disgrace of a bow he's using

[visual rain]

wtf i just got polaris lance from legacy

i didnt even know this was possible

[brittle plover]

W

I asked bro to run legacy with me like 45min ago and I got ignored

[visual rain]

oh i didnt see

[brittle plover]

lol

[obtuse chasm]

Because it’s Rossi

[brittle plover]

Didn’t wanna say it

[empty kettle]

Using that arc exotic bow

[bitter estuary]

trinity ghoul

[karmic chasm]

It’s not me playing Rossi*

[spring current]

Why is no one talking about the Wardcliff Coil

i really wanna see how it performs man

[indigo solar]

Somehow lost the photo contest tho

[karmic chasm]

I need to make my Rossi absolutely beefy again like he once was

[indigo solar]

A few of them I could see winning but one guy just posted fish photos

Maybe it's bc I'm a contributor and they didn't want favoritism accusations

[obtuse chasm]

Goated and from what I’ve seen a nice contender for first still, even after cloudstrike, I’m still waiting for second cat before I confirm just how much better cloudstrike is tho 😔 working on my jeziba first

[trail jolt]

cloud is doing me wonders

[obtuse chasm]

I’ve gone through every single roll 2+ times already and still no double upgrade embold

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah it does good damage with one cat but only slightly more then Ted so I wanna see exactly how much more it is and if it’s even worth running in lower content seeing as the ist one shots mostly everything anyways

And here’s a video of cloudstrike with only 1 cat my buddy tested

I wanna do testing myself tho to see exact comparisons

[brittle plover]

What was that sniper build?

[obtuse chasm]

My mythic one?

[brittle plover]

Looking for a cloudstrike alternative so I can use the handcannon

[brittle plover]

Ye

[obtuse chasm]

1 more dupe to finish cloudstrike 😔

[obtuse chasm]

Those mods I’m running are trash tho, just haven’t been focused on farming new ones

Been to busy with raid and other upgrades

[subtle anchor]

yeh their is a new goated mod right for shinkas or something

i've seen it, but not sure where to farm that one

[signal oak]

Good morning

[oak kettle]

The general mods are in all of the type specific pools afaik

I’ve gotten mine from Piercing Focus on the public events

[brittle plover]

Same

[subtle anchor]

ah that makes sense
Ty

[bright trellis]

Drising on this b***h

[brittle bane]

so the seasonal challenge to do the normal first encounter in under 5min is bugged from what I've been hearing. I was on a speed running team that did it in 4min 39 and it didn't count.

[brittle plover]

I didn’t know izinagis 2nd perk was so good in PvP. Thought u had to combine all the bullets to get guaranteed kills with it. Just kill a mob and the rest of the mag will 1 shot players

[oblique geyser]

If i transfer, the artefact will be 90 or 80 ? Considerinng im taking a stat line from a lvl 80 artefact ?

[empty kettle]

The artifact level doesn't downgrade when you transfer

[oblique geyser]

And in the pic above, if i transfer i'll just have recovery and healing replace in the yellow right lines?

[hushed snow]

does anyone know how to get adept weapons in this game? i just saw es9's solo clear and i saw that he has an adept total lockdown

[bold fog]

perk with bonus perk

either it drops with or you forge it

[hushed snow]

so if i get that to drop/forge, would like the weapon name change and add an "adept" name next to it?

[cobalt beacon]

jaren might be somewhat of a 🐐

[visual rain]

what

wait hand cannons are piercing wtf

i thought they were impact

[cobalt beacon]

no jaren is the goat

[visual rain]

ong

In case anyone was wondering:

1. Bots take exactly 7 minutes to clear legacy
2. Bots cannot obtain MVP
3. I just pulled a 2 star full art mega charizard on tcg pocket

4. bots are smarter than real people and dunk when at max

[lapis swallow]

@bitter estuary yo, someone tested Wardcliff on Hairkora, 20% damage increase than Truth, but the downside is you have to be in close range.

[bold fog]

does wardcliff not track?

[misty marsh]

bc of the random desync from targeting, sometimes stuff gets in the way, fall thru glitch, ball drop glitch, ball disappear glitch, there's a lot that can go wrong, and some are scared that they won't get another halfway decent team again

[hushed snow]

how, mine barely does a mill, my mythic rocket does double warcliffs damage at point blank range

[stable cosmos]

Probably because I dont touch the other 2 encounters but first encounter the ball seems to mostly work aside from sometimes falling into the abyss briefly then teleporting to whoever was targeted hands

[lapis swallow]

You have to max it out and test it on the clan room. Unless you didn't spend maxing the nodes and dupes on it.

Plus it will deal less damage logically if different element, like everything else

You have to break the elemental shield first before Wardcliff

[hushed snow]

i only gotten the first catty and like 2 nodes. i used it on a bruiser and a spread shika and gotten very low numbers. having to max it out for it to be good is just not worth it, esepcially for contest :/

[lapis swallow]

No wonder. The tested one was maxed out Wardcliff vs maxed out Truth

Obvs your Mythic launcher will be better if you haven't maxed out Wardcliff

Kinda unfair comparison claiming your fully built Mythic launcher is better while you didn't do any significant investments on Wardcliff, Wardcliff on 3rd main node does double the rockets per shot

[hushed snow]

i gotta check im pretty sure i did the test without mods on the mythic rocket, it has a decent roll but it could be better

alr tested it without mods and i pretty much just only got 1.5 mil for both.

[void pivot]

Who wants to help me in the great hunt plz

[dusty spire]

Sg is so good why have we not got a event around it?

Been playing more but it’s a bot fest …..

[empty kettle]

Because it would die down real fast after everyone gets their rewards

[lapis swallow]

Just like Crota's

[dusty spire]

Need end of cycle rewards like cordon

I mean c ops

[lapis swallow]

1st 2-3 weeks was full of people, died down when everyone got the rewards they could get

[dusty spire]

Needs just a real rank reward system

This rank system is a progressive rank system

Has no real incentive behind it

[lapis swallow]

Raids that doesn't reset or cycle rewards are bound to die anyways

I'm still skipping the game atm waiting for their promised fixes and everything is unlocked

Not playing until I get the Level 100 artifacts in the game rotation

[dusty spire]

Just put 2k lumi at the end of shifting gates rank make the ranks 3 tiers and 5 grades and we good to go

Rewards sent out end of cycle

It’s a premium pvp so it does encourage the use of tiers heroes

Hate having to grind chaos 😤

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/mines-zoolander-cool-swag-walking-gif-2364686095630040503

[dusty spire]

Tbf I’ll just do what I did before around - 10 stages a day quick or every other day

Just let it add up, but grinding to pump up the wheel is long lol

[lapis swallow]

I'm just doing dailies for the leaves every 2-3 days, do Leggy Campaign, fish and that's it

Not touching Expanse or anything involving artifacts until they unlock everything

[dusty spire]

I’m back to how it was in S3 other than I’ve got a whole pool of heroes that are not in the 90s cap lool

[lapis swallow]

Removal of pinnacle allowed me to skip for days and lose nothing

[dusty spire]

Imo its all the same thing just now presented differently

Still feels like the same sort of progression string lol

[empty kettle]

Going to grind the void side of legacy for the upcoming character

[dusty spire]

But with the option to endlessly upgrade characters at a time premium lol

[lapis swallow]

Meh, could've retained the pinnacle system and used that as daily currency for limited guaranteed loot, then after that back to regular drop table rates.

Instead we have that stupid double run currency that you have to grind and is way too expensive to earn while having the same drop rate

[dusty spire]

I’m ok with either just the 90 cap reset was a smart little move to get us to do everything again

Soft reset into a higher power bracket

Hence why we cannot go from 80 -> 90

[lapis swallow]

They essentially killed the playerbase tbh

[dusty spire]

Literally reset us

[lapis swallow]

Making a middle finger to OG grinders from August and found out all their efforts are wasted

[dusty spire]

All the 80s arts the time ect was for nothing

Just a booster into s4

[lapis swallow]

All those wasted artifactual essence on minmaxing Level 80 artifacts with no way converting those godrolls into 90 or 100, not even used as power rank fodder on new artifacts

[obtuse chasm]

I mean technically there are ways to convert your god rolls to 90, just not in the way it used to be

[lapis swallow]

You have to do it and earn them all over again.

Then merge the artifacts until they stack into godrolls

You have to do it again in Level 100 artifacts unless they allow direct upgrades from 90 to 100

[lone lion]

Thinking of farming the 2nd Raid. I need the Thunderlord

[obtuse chasm]

There’s no confirmation that that’s the case yet

[obtuse chasm]

I scraped 2 of them so far 🙈

[lone lion]

Are we going to have Act 2 or this is it?

[empty kettle]

Act 2

[lone lion]

Lol damn

[lone lion]

When?

[empty kettle]

Next month

[lapis swallow]

And the weapons aren't enjoyable when they deliberately choke you on resources requiring photons on a 1.5% drop, and it's so boring to use the same old exotics that aren't upgraded because in Black Market, either you buy photons or BP token to get the exotic you need

An excuse for them not making new content each month

[lone lion]

Ok thanks

[obtuse chasm]

It was a 1.5% before and we were limited as to how many runs we could do a day? Now it’s unlimited? You should be happy they didn’t decrease it tbh it’s 100% easier to max exotics now

[subtle anchor]

luckily discord has a block button

[lapis swallow]

Sure, if you're wasting your entire life trying to gamble that 1.5% drop rate

Bro blocked me because he can't have anyone hating his favorite game lmfao

[subtle anchor]

and i dont have to see messages someone always being negative about the game

[lapis swallow]

Glazers and guzzlers, it's kinda sad.

[empty kettle]

The piss bottles are harder to get in large quantities than photons (if you don't have 2× or 3× claim rewards)

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah but your point is that it was easier before, but nothing has changed and now you’re not limited by daily entries

[obtuse chasm]

.

I’ve maxed 3-5 exotics since the update….

[lapis swallow]

Told them many times, many times to retain the pinnacle system but have it as currency for guaranteed drop in any raid, they could do weekly photons 3x once a week but they didn't

[empty kettle]

The People wanted pinnacle gone

[dusty spire]

I like the weapons

[obtuse chasm]

No pinnacle has brought back many old players as well as new, and people wanted pinnacle gone, you’re part of the 5% that didn’t

[dusty spire]

I don’t like the damage differences between different classes that hold them

[lapis swallow]

Monkeys paw promise

Remove the pinnacle, retain the awful drop rates

[dusty spire]

Drop rates not problem

[obtuse chasm]

It’s really not tho, what was better before and has changed other than having to redo artifacts and grind out weapon perks? If you ask me it’s a worthy trade off

[dusty spire]

It’s that they don’t want players being able to very Much leaning on the free assets

I hate that because it makes certain weapons crap but operationally good by logics

[obtuse chasm]

Not even just that tho, I’ve never played a single looter shooter where anything was “easy” seems like they just want things handed to them

[lapis swallow]

Idk how other gacha games did it with their own stamina system where they can get guaranteed drops on their own modes while still able to run then regularly on normal drops, only that their stamina system will allow them 100% guaranteed drop per week

[dusty spire]

Yeah I don’t want easy

I just want my time to be viable

Took me a week or two to get a weapon

I max it and then it performs crap because it’s a free asset

That’s annoying when the real deal is behind a gacha

[obtuse chasm]

What’s locked behind a gacha tho? And unobtainable to f2p?

[lapis swallow]

I could get a Steel Path weapon for Warframe within a week with maxed out stats and good mods compared to this game.

[obtuse chasm]

It’s a gacha looter shooter gacha aspects are to be expected

[dusty spire]

The T6 potential

[fallow mirage]

Isn’t that basically what the new system is? Only it has a weekly refresh instead of a daily one

[obtuse chasm]

That’s Warframe, this is a destiny gacha

[dusty spire]

So I don’t know why they deliberately make weapons underperform

[obtuse chasm]

I haven’t experienced this a single time tbh, I look at stats before hand and compare, then focus farm and test

[lapis swallow]

Nope, the weekly reset still have to gamble drop rates on some resources, especially photons. It's not like you're getting free weekly photons each weekly reset.

[empty kettle]

The weapons mostly depend on the characters

[obtuse chasm]

You don’t gamble anything, everything is guaranteed with time, you’re not “gambling” time, that’s like saying spending is “investing” in reality gaming is entertainment nothing you spend on said entertainment is permanent and you don’t get your money back…

It’s a mobile looter shooter gacha yall are comparing Warframe a pc/console game that just recently added a mobile port to a strictly mobile game made by netease…

[lapis swallow]

Sure, with 60-70+ runs on the 1.5% drop rate of photons that could take hours or days.

[obtuse chasm]

Then get to grinding instead of whining in disc tbh

I’ve had no problem upgrading exotics since the update

And it’s become a million times easier

[lapis swallow]

When the game is in its worse state rn? I could send more feedback and they won't even listen

[obtuse chasm]

Worst state?

[dusty spire]

I’m thinking of grabbing two more copies of hikora then I can T6 free with crystals ?

[lapis swallow]

That's their lazy excuse because they got no new content to release monthly

Making everything a slog

Then recycle events, truly peak Destiny experience

[dusty spire]

I need 1 more Kabr 1.0 🥹

[obtuse chasm]

What source do you have to prove this claim? Because I’ve seen new and returning players alike coming back I wouldn’t call this the worst state it’s been in

[lapis swallow]

I don't think you can get one copy once you already owned her

[fallow mirage]

You can’t get character tiers with free crystals

[dusty spire]

You can

[obtuse chasm]

You can’t

[dusty spire]

Your talking about the signature crystal

I’m talking fortune

[fallow mirage]

That’s not a free crystal

[dusty spire]

My frags are for 1 copy activations of the heroes I’ve skipped

[lapis swallow]

Source? It's the game itself. Want proof? Try matchmaking. It hasn't changed. Oh, they added bots as band-aid solution because they can't keep players in the game. And you telling me the game is in the current healthiest state rn when modes similar to dubbed Crota's 2.0 dies after 2-3 weeks?

[dusty spire]

Sorry I’m talking these things

[lapis swallow]

And you telling me the game is more alive and ever when they literally added bots to help you queue faster because nobody is playing

[dusty spire]

Except the hero select that’s for Saladin

[fallow mirage]

Bots in queue have been a thing since launch. This isn’t a new thing

[dusty spire]

We need more emphasis on sg

[lapis swallow]

Because that's their only solution to the matchmaking, the game even did poorly in marketing to bring in new players helping the grind

[dusty spire]

It’s a really amazing game mode

And the rewards now in terms of shop exchange is ok

They need to work on sg

[obtuse chasm]

All you doomposters sound the same, and it’s becoming annoying atp

[lapis swallow]

Matchmaking times didn't change at all, before only a few raids have bot matchmaking, nowadays, almost every raid now because they can't find players.

[obtuse chasm]

Or because players requested it 😔

[lapis swallow]

Now you're mad because I made a point, disproven your lie that the game is actually healthy? Lmfao

[lapis swallow]

BECAUSE THE GAME IS DEAD!

[dusty spire]

Ok so how many players here actually enjoy SG?

[dusty spire]

It’s not dead it has a low activity level

[river vigil]

then go to a different game, why are you doom posting here

[lapis swallow]

Holy how dense can you be when bots are added because they can't keep up with the players

[dusty spire]

Dead is dead imo

This is very much alive

[obtuse chasm]

Can we not make like a rule for stuff like this? Just perma ban them

[dusty spire]

And I know for a fact this game hasn’t touch the larger side of gacha players

The last spring we had with this game was because of destiny players

[lapis swallow]

Because toxic positivity beats kills the game over people wanting this game to improve

[dusty spire]

We need to pull more mobile players in

[obtuse chasm]

You’re not trying to improve you want handouts

[river vigil]

what you're doing isnt helping the game either, nothing you have said was constructive

[lapis swallow]

So you're mad I made a correct argument, disproven your lies, wants mods as backup because I pointed out a critical flaw on the game. Glazer

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[obtuse chasm]

What lies have I spoken? I told you the game is not in its worst state? And it isn’t…

[lapis swallow]

Pointing out the flaws of the game is constructive, did you follow the convo?

[obtuse chasm]

Saying it’s not in its worse does not imply it’s at its healthiest

You’re just word vomiting

[lapis swallow]

Or you're mad because I am correct and you're not

Asking mods for backup haha

[obtuse chasm]

Not really mad, more so annoyed

[river vigil]

if a flaw for your destiny gacha game is you dont like the grind in it, I dont think its the game for you

[obtuse chasm]

Because there’s someone like you everyday in here

[dusty spire]

Ok let’s keep our cool’s clearly we all enjoy the game

[obtuse chasm]

With 0 constructive criticism or actual ideas just “THE GAME IS DEAD”

Or increase this

[dusty spire]

But the game is definitely not dead

[lapis swallow]

Nope, I like grindy games, Warframe for example, not the games where the grind aspect is poorly implemented

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-monkey-listening-monkey-speech-bubble-dumb-lion-lion-yelling-gif-977388511909412427

[fallow mirage]

Ironically they were here yesterday saying the exact same things lol

[obtuse chasm]

Sure bud, you “like” grindy games

[lapis swallow]

Not yet, and it's Netease, you already know the lifespan of their games that doesn't do well

[dusty spire]

Just give me a ranked sg so I can PvP when I’m bored lol

[dusty spire]

But this might be differently addressed

[obtuse chasm]

Warframe is a p2w mess…

[fallow mirage]

This isn’t true

[obtuse chasm]

I’ve played for years, platinum is obtainable by f2p players but where does platinum come from?

[lapis swallow]

Sure bud, when you can get those by literally grinding, P2W mess, what P2W when it doesn't have a proper PVP or leaderboards lmfao

[dusty spire]

The ip is to good to drop

[lapis swallow]

Dude is mad he has to farm materials to sell to get platinum for free

[obtuse chasm]

You can get them by grinding relics and buying them from p2w players making a profit off of you

[river vigil]

platinum came from players like me that bought it and used it to skip grinds

[lapis swallow]

Lmfaooooooooo

[dusty spire]

Maybe to good to fail on some cases

[obtuse chasm]

I’m a whale

What are you on about

[lapis swallow]

Pay to Play players, not P2W, brush up your dictionary 🤣

[dusty spire]

I’m p2w lol

[obtuse chasm]

From doomposting to ragebait?

[empty kettle]

Destiny will always find away to deny death

[lapis swallow]

You're the same guy before that told me Warframe is P2W and I laugh 🤣

[fallow mirage]

It comes from ppl who buy platinum from DE. The currency gets steadily injected into the player market via trading. There is no “paying to win,” just speeding up acquisition of gear

[lapis swallow]

Literally

You just pay to skip grinding

[dusty spire]

Honestly since I’ve jump onto the mobile train I didn’t realise the destiny fan base.

[lapis swallow]

You can eventually get those top notch gear if you invest your time

Plus 2023 onwards, newer modes have pity system

[fallow mirage]

What does this mean? “P2w” players wouldn’t be selling you anything. They’re the ones buying off of you

[empty kettle]

Convo went from about dr to warframe

[lapis swallow]

He can't differentiate P2P vs P2W. P2W Is literally having an advantage over others in unfair ways, P2P is basically buying things to skip the grind

How do WF even have competitive side to even qualify as P2W lol

[dusty spire]

This game is definitely a progress over time but at a premium you speed it up. Most competitive modes become fair play

And only longer cycled activities utilise power scaling

[lapis swallow]

Majority of platinum spent on Warframe is basically on cosmetics and minmaxing their favorite guns and frames anyways

[fallow mirage]

P2P = pay to play? Peer to peer? WF is neither of those lol
Well, maybe it uses peer to peer connections, idk

[dusty spire]

Pay to progress

[lapis swallow]

Still Pay to Play, not Pay to Access, different things

[dusty spire]

Since your not winning anything lol

[fallow mirage]

It’s not pay to progress either

[obtuse chasm]

I honestly have no interest in talking about Warframe

Sure you’re right it’s pay to progress

[dusty spire]

If you paying relatively to funding wins

[lapis swallow]

That's P2W

[dusty spire]

That’s pay to win

[obtuse chasm]

Not p2w, why are we talking about Warframe in dr disc

I could care less

[lapis swallow]

Getting better gear by paying to have a competitive edge against other players = P2W

[dusty spire]

Your paying to progress based on resources that don’t generally give you a competitive advantage to winning

[fallow mirage]

I wasn’t the one who brought it up

[obtuse chasm]

Hachimi is stuck on it

Comparing everything to Warframe

[lapis swallow]

Idk someone got mad after he got disproven

[dusty spire]

What item in this game is locked behind silver that we use to upgrade that cannot be acquired anywhere else?

[lapis swallow]

Got the lecture he wanted, mad when he learned new stuff

[obtuse chasm]

I haven’t gotten mad a single time and you never disproved anything?

[lapis swallow]

Twice actually

[obtuse chasm]

As I said just because I said it’s not at it’s worse does not imply it’s at its best

[lapis swallow]

Bot on matchmaking and WF that you claim as P2W

[obtuse chasm]

But the game is not in its worst state

[lapis swallow]

That's easy arguments over someone with little knowledge

[dusty spire]

Next banner might be a healer right?

[obtuse chasm]

As I said idc about Warframe

[river shoal]

COIL\

[dusty spire]

Beekeeping person or something

My knowledge on destiny lore is crap

[obtuse chasm]

Bots in matchmaking has been a thing…

[dusty spire]

But I’m very interested in this healing stuff

[obtuse chasm]

And the game is not in its worst state as I said

[lapis swallow]

As bandaid solution for the low engagement and player count

[hollow gazelle]

Beekeeper does sound cool

[dusty spire]

I’m loving healing tan

[hollow gazelle]

I just want a new warlock ffs

[obtuse chasm]

Okay? And they’ve had returning players as well as new because of the changes?

[hollow gazelle]

Maybe ill reinvest in tan

[lapis swallow]

The game isn't even doing financially well, and you can't claim it's not in its worse state

[fallow mirage]

We just got Ikora tho

[obtuse chasm]

Have we had a revenue report since the update?

[hollow gazelle]

New:

[dusty spire]

You can’t really get MVP with healer tan since all you do is make the team aggressive lol

[fallow mirage]

She’s basically new

[empty kettle]

You might get one in the form of void

[hollow gazelle]

No she is an upgraded old charachter, still cool but ye

[obtuse chasm]

All your claims are backed by pre update doomposting, you have no actual statistics backing your claims

[dusty spire]

That’s the bee keeper thing right?

[fallow mirage]

Mythic Wolf when?

[dusty spire]

I see some images of the skills I think

Sounds very healing ability damage

[stable cosmos]

Peer to peer is right

[hollow gazelle]

Ngl the beekeeper did sound like a 4 star to me

[stable cosmos]

Which if the host is someone with a garbage system everyone else suffers.

[empty kettle]

With those type of abilities? I doubt it tbh

[dusty spire]

I was thinking this!
But a new 5* support style would be very welcomed

[lapis swallow]

Sure glazer, and there's more of these articles and trackers in one click of a button

[fallow mirage]

Host migration is in progress

[obtuse chasm]

Pre update…

[dusty spire]

Tbf this is generally accross the board for neteas

[stable cosmos]

Shooting an enemy then waiting 5 years for the bullets to register because the hosts internet is awful

[hollow gazelle]

Even if 4 star, if they are as good as wolf or umeko im good with it tbh

[dusty spire]

They have had a really slow 1st quarter

[obtuse chasm]

You’re saying the game is currently in its worst state… but we have 0 statistics for revenue or player counts for this new update

[lapis swallow]

Most of their games are, their two games with Marvel Rivals and WWM are still raking in millions

[obtuse chasm]

If the revenue is still trending down then sure, I’ll support your claim but you have nothing but old news from pre update that you’re throwing around

[dusty spire]

Them that revenue might be good enough to hold everything up

[fallow mirage]

What makes you think they’re gonna redirect that to DR?

[hollow gazelle]

I doubt they made much with no efrideet skin or advertising 😭

[cobalt beacon]

Tbf the update was before the month ended so some of the revenue is in there

[lapis swallow]

It's like their only 2 decently performing games

[dusty spire]

Investor relations will tell you iykyk

It’s easy to find out

[fallow mirage]

Investor relations will tell you to prune dead leaves

[lapis swallow]

Investors don't really see a future in this game, if they do, we could have better content. We don't even have voice actors in this game anymore, even removed AI voicelines

[dusty spire]

Not really

[dusty spire]

It will tell you the direction of things if your ready fillings ect

[lapis swallow]

If the game gets more expensive running and maintaining it over profits, they usually cut their losses rather than bleed money

[gritty rune]

I don’t think investors care much about DR, and the game doesn’t exactly cost much to develop compared to WWM

[dusty spire]

But that’s based on an individual and their personal knowledge and experience with this sort of thing

[gritty rune]

So I don’t think it’s being subsidised or anything

[dusty spire]

Well you’d care about anything the business does if your capital is tied in

[lapis swallow]

True, just copy pasted resources from Destiny franchise, nothing really made from scratch

[dusty spire]

So I’m not sure where that comes from but ok

[lapis swallow]

They can cut down costs hiring digital artists and riggers even, what's to model anyways when the assets already exist to port.

[hollow gazelle]

I wonder how much they are allowed to port

[lapis swallow]

Iirc, this uses in-house engine with Netease, same engine used in WWM

They even ported "deleted" assets from the Destiny franchise

That never came in their games

Tbh, just a Bungie curse rn, people ending up hating a company when they got worse over time

Profits over players, sad reality

[fallow mirage]

Ppl seem to love marathon, at least the ppl who are actually playing it do

I think the Destiny franchise has overstayed its welcome. Bungie just needs to either drop a d3 and kill d2 or watch it bleed out slowly

[lapis swallow]

Same thing happened to BF6, good release numbers, sharp dwindling as weeks go by

[lapis swallow]

They ran out on their creative juices sadly, instead of making new content, they just recycle

Tbh it's expected for Marathon, there's so many games like it, it's biggest competitor is Arc Raiders and Tarkov

[fallow mirage]

Marathon is a paid title. At least they made like $60 or something per copy sold

It’s nothing like DR

[lapis swallow]

Tbh, kinda expensive for a live service title

One of DR's mistake is there's almost really nothing else to buy to keep it afloat

[fallow mirage]

Not rly. Most ppl just associate live service with f2p for some reason

[lapis swallow]

Even the cosmetics aren't worth it

[fallow mirage]

F2P is probably one of the dumbest models cuz you need some aggressive monetization to keep things afloat

[lapis swallow]

There's some resources to buy but those are grindable and you just skip the grind, it's not even sustainable in the long run

[sweet urchin]

Is the lumifly under the stairs in legendary mission forgotten bounty changed? Can't find it at the same location like youtube video

[lapis swallow]

There should be enough balance on monetization and free content tbh, free content to keep players engaged wanting for more while having microtransactions as an option

[fallow mirage]

Is that the legendary campaign? There’s two versions of the map. I strictly remember watching a yt vid back in the day that confused the two legendary campaigns with each other and labeled them wrong. You might be watching that same vid

[dusty spire]

Can we get a LFG cordon please I hate the use of others

[fallow mirage]

In a f2p game, all content should be free. Cosmetics and store purchases are not content

[gloomy yacht]

AGWpRoMD

[lapis swallow]

Well, in DRising, there's not enough content where you can enjoy to the point you'll support the game for being an actually good game

[wide dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-car-cat-scuba-gif-12924749550248300725

[sweet urchin]

Its weird, it seems you can't get all 4 of them without the good rotation depending the version of the maps

[fallow mirage]

They rotate weekly

[lapis swallow]

Or probably they don't spawn anymore on the current version, resulting to softlock the achievement?

It happens

[sweet urchin]

It is the only lumifly I can't find among all of them, never collected them before

Just depend on rotation probably, will see next week

[lapis swallow]

Well the game has a lot of bugs on current version, wouldn't be surprising this is one of them

[sweet urchin]

Could be

[sullen depot]

lots of bug fixes. campaign quest also appears fixed with NPC being stuck in place

[empty kettle]

Free 200 lumia leaves

Also void beekeeper

[heady obsidian]

...I've been in a singularity chaos run the entire time. are they sure servers are down

[sullen depot]

that was a mis post . maintancne is tomorrow instead

[heady obsidian]

ohhhh i see

[obtuse chasm]

I can finally do the campaign and character quests, was waiting for this lol

[neon pebble]

Nah. Cosmetics make more money than p2w mechanics. Ask league of legends, fortnite, wwm, etc.

If DR had banger cosmetics and not talent tree/ascend condensates then it would make more money

Make every character a limited event character, if you miss it then you gotta wait for it to come back. No draws for characters, draws for cosmetics. The LW good/evil cosmetic banner would have been fire if we didnt have to spend to T6 jaren

Would have spent and unlocked sweet dual pistol relic skin

They made a helmet slot for Halloween pumpkin and xmas snowman heads. Why no helmet cosmetics too buy in store?

Pump up cosmetics, reduce talent usage then somehow phase it out and replace with a new system obtainable by f2p (if you owned T6 before change then you auto max)

Ascend can stay, it isnt "needed" i guess (i mean it is you know)

[empty kettle]

It really isn't

[bitter estuary]

I know, the stacks scales with how close you are w/ the target

[wispy maple]

Should I wait for a helhest re-run or try to get t6 Efrideet? I need a good piercing character any opinions are welcome

[naive ingot]

They can take so many cosmetics from D1 and D2... Which I'll end up buying.... Again. But they need to work for all say warlocks can wear the ones for a warlock. Like Estela Crota set... Would fit Gwynn well

[obtuse chasm]

If they do any reruns I assume they would go in order, the fact that they haven’t reran a single character yet leads me to believe they won’t be doing a hellhest rerun anytime soon, I would invest in efrideet

[wispy maple]

I value your response very much

[chrome relic]

How do I get legendary mods??

[subtle anchor]

u can get mods from Front Lines on the Destinations

[chrome relic]

@subtle anchor tyyy

[subtle anchor]

BTW is there any news regarding a new Destination for Rising ?

[empty kettle]

Nope

But I assume we will get another location for the upcoming expansion

[subtle anchor]

when is the next dlc then ?

[restive ruin]

damn okay

[empty kettle]

In 6 months

[dawn plover]

Bro there is not a single person doing great hunt emea 3rd

I been looking for 2 days now 😭

[rose wasp]

U got lucky to even make it to the 3rd I never found a team for the 1st

[white yew]

dw ive been trying to do full clears in NA for ppl but no one hitting me up

[naive ingot]

Did I spy a concerto... Dare I say, buff?

In the patch notes

[dusty spire]

Plus the slip

The “character wielding”

Sooo more than 1

[naive ingot]

When there's only one lol

[dusty spire]

New duel wielded incoming soon lol

[rose wasp]

I heard only 200 teams are people beat the raid challenge

[dusty spire]

I’m telling you we are due some new 4* soon

[empty kettle]

So the next void character will use impact... interesting

[dusty spire]

We just gonna get a random addition like Rossi came in

Who it is what it is I couldn’t say

But I definitely feel some random new 4* about to appear

Excited for next banner though

Efri is aight but never really hit the spot for me imo

You know fomo is real when my leaves start going lol

[slow olive]

Wish Weapons with shaders SLAP

[dusty spire]

But Efri is definitely a offensive banger! Seeing her do mad damage in some rooms

[slow olive]

Pair her with Izanagi's and somehow get through how her dodge works around with Izi's superrounds and you get yourself massive PP damage

[empty kettle]

4* impact character and a possible 5* rapid fire

[naive ingot]

Need a 4* impact that uses sidearms and a 5* mythic that uses Fusion rifles

[dusty spire]

I like the sound of that

[empty kettle]

One of them is definitely the void "beekeeper"

[exotic sinew]

I can see 5* Toland with Bad Juju coming out as a void rapid fire unit using Pulse and Crossbow while a 4* void beekeeper summoner comes out and is handcannon or dual pistols/LMG

Would make use of the new weapons. Mesicku and Thunderlord

Hell Toland could just be Pulse and LMG like Estela

[empty kettle]

2 void characters

[hidden carbon]

what if toland is the beekeeper

[empty kettle]

We take what we can get

[hidden carbon]

toland just looking like jason statham

[karmic chasm]

Just when we thought Gwynn has been cooked enough

[naive ingot]

Helhest has cooked everyone...

[karmic chasm]

Yea

[empty kettle]

I will main the void summoner

[austere apex]

does anyone know if buying the trasuery gives you both or juust 1?

[empty kettle]

28d and 21h till the next act (going by the bp expire date)

[bleak pelican]

Mornin

Efri is either a hit or miss for people who enjoy her kit

[wide dagger]

Always hit

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-march-7th-evernight-tongue-out-bleh-gif-14674196599616490276

[bleak pelican]

Seeing your pfp we alr know who you are

[surreal bear]

Do you guys know whether or not they nerfed contest mode great hunt?

[slow olive]

Nerfed or not

[surreal bear]

After leaderboard rush ended

[bleak pelican]

I got 0 clue buddy I've been busy making sure to rebuff it so no one can beat it

[slow olive]

It doesn't make a difference if your teammates

Don't

Know

WHAT TO DO

[surreal bear]

ok boss, get it out of your chest lol

[bleak pelican]

You're gonna be stuck on Neverness to Everness once it releases

[slow olive]

PASS THE BALLS
ACCOMPANY THE BUFF CARRIER
BE FAST FFS

[bleak pelican]

Mate is malding over team comp

Skill issue

[karmic chasm]

I just don’t know when I can play it in general, hunt or normal… been so busy.

[slow olive]

YOU WANT TO RUN NING RIGHT? OKAY USE HIS MOBILITY-CENTRIC KIT FFS

[karmic chasm]

I need CS sniper tho

[karmic chasm]

Buddy, I have an smg and a slam for these three thralls in front of me, that’s all I can offer

[bleak pelican]

I like cloudstrike but I just can't take off the til eternal death hand cannon

[surreal bear]

@slow olive i actually completed the raid with randoms i found through fireteam finder. contest mode stage 2,3 no comms at all

[karmic chasm]

I feel like I’ll miss crimson

[bleak pelican]

Once you get it to Cat 3 it genuinely becomes a really great hard hitting primary

[slow olive]

SO YOU TOOK THE SMART ONES

[bleak pelican]

#💭│main-chat message this was the TED numbers btw

[karmic chasm]

That’s insane

Bow damage

[bleak pelican]

Yep lol

[slow olive]

HOW THE HELL WERE THE ONES WHO WERE RUNNING ROSSI AND BALDKORA MORE COMPETENT THAN SOMEONE WHO MAXES THEIR WIGKORA, JAREN, HELHEST, OR NING???

[surreal bear]

it was ME muhahahaha

[karmic chasm]

Then again I’m not buy ing battle passes anymore

[bleak pelican]

I agree tbh but for efrideet mains it's a must not even close

[signal sage]

got lucky this morning

[bleak pelican]

In terms of primary damage if you have crimson or last word that's all good and what not but a fully built ted is just giga goated

[bleak pelican]

Congrats

Also I genuinely only see cloudstrike as a go to sniper for high end chaos or modes that require fast burst dps

[slow olive]

Ngl I think the other ones is better

It just has better perk offerings

[bleak pelican]

Otherwise if you need total DMG the mythic one is king there

[slow olive]

Oh na

[prisma pond]

Same :3

[slow olive]

Cloudstrike is just that good

[dawn plover]

Just waited 45 minutes for emea 3rd encounter great hunt just to disband within 10 minutes because 2 idiots didn’t know the basic mechanic of the whole raid

[bleak pelican]

Again, it's preference

[dawn plover]

Is that the best?

[bleak pelican]

I just don't like cloudstrike for general content

[dawn plover]

Woah where do you get the adept weapons ?

[prisma pond]

there's no other option if you decide to go for cloudstrike

[bleak pelican]

I do more total DMG with my main setup without cloudstrike

[prisma pond]

jezibaba feels like the good ol duke 44 tho from d2

[bleak pelican]

^

I will not hate on a good sniper, cloudstrike is nasty, but again it's a burst dps type of weapon

If it wasn't for TED at Cat 3 hitting like a damn semi truck and the mythic sniper having such a huge DMG bump from the perks, I'd run the jezibaba + cloudstrike setup anyday. But even so if you're pushing chaos I'd still use cloudstrike just for that needed burst dps to out beat the timer

[finite gazelle]

I can't max the bp hand cannon so I just went with cloudstrike

[bleak pelican]

Clear time difference def matters with it

[bleak pelican]

That's perfectly fine

I took the liberty of maxing and testing it out for folks

[karmic chasm]

Yhhh I’ll just use cs

[finite gazelle]

It's honestly comparable to the new mythic sniper

[bleak pelican]

Efrideet has 2 options

[finite gazelle]

Saves me a lot of time grinding to upgrade it too

[bleak pelican]

Either cloudstrike route or til eternal death route

No matter which you go you're still getting MVP 24/7 unless there's a T6 kora or helhest in the mission

[finite gazelle]

I'm less concerned about getting my jezibaba maxed immediately cause it's less impactful

[slow olive]

Never ever sleep on legendary perks

[bleak pelican]

For the cloudstrike mains getting your DMG up is esy due to no paying aspects involved

[slow olive]

Deadly Warrant, Target Lock, Frenzy

[finite gazelle]

I have a cornucopia/horror's metabolism roll with lvl4 on both, I'm already in a decent spot with jezibaba

[bleak pelican]

Til Eternal Death route you 100% need cat 3 to even get those insane numbers

[slow olive]

GOATed cluth perks

[bleak pelican]

It's more accessible

Unfortunately TED is a bp weapon, so most don't either have it or even consider to max it out

[karmic chasm]

One of their many changes this season should have been making battle pass weapons able to be maxed out just from having the battle pass

[bleak pelican]

Also it's a Hand Cannon, so unless they take time to go into it they won't even know how strong it rly is

[bleak pelican]

I agree

[finite gazelle]

I was considering getting the base pass for ted just cause it's 5 bucks but honestly I don't care enough

[bleak pelican]

And this unfortunately is the main problem

[karmic chasm]

But it’s not five bucks, because you have to get more tokens from the shop

[bleak pelican]

There's nothing that makes them relevant unless there's a genuine meta breaking thing with it

[finite gazelle]

That is true

[bleak pelican]

Now if cloudstrike was the battle pass weapon

WAY more people would be forced to get it

[slow olive]

Ngl

I think it would've been better if it was

[bleak pelican]

Profit wise this bp the most least bought one besides furies

It should have been cloudstrike bp and TED raid

[karmic chasm]

That’s due to three people playing the game still

[bleak pelican]

Like me and I buy everything

[karmic chasm]

I was a spender like you, and then I took an arrow to the bank account

[bleak pelican]

Google pays for all my stuff

The perks of being a higher up employee

[karmic chasm]

Yeah, no lol. I work as a direct support professional for at risk individuals, I don’t get any stipends LMAO.

That’s pretty awesome though, it really must be nice to be able to spend that on your favorite game. I do think that if I had a little bit more cash on hand, I really wouldn’t mind supporting this full force.

I like rising

[dawn plover]

I’m entirely free to play as you can tell

Barely can scratch out a t3 efrideet, but my next one to go for is gonna be estela after this

[karmic chasm]

I’m f2p from season 3 onwards, not spending another dime. I’m also gonna be scraping a t3 efri. T2 and like 20 pulls to go

[dawn plover]

W, we are the real goats

[thorny frost]

So a couple quick 2 cents, I don’t think every game will survive by cosmetics alone, even if it has good roots. Purely cosmetic sales target different audience and I believe would need to have a decent player base to sustain it. Could Destiny rising pull it off? I am honestly not sure with our current player base.

With that tho, they do still need to lean into it with our current monetization anyways. With season 4 they have made it to cheap for moderate spenders to T6 at least every other unit. What it is looking like is every other unit now, moderate spenders (on average) will have a pretty decent chance of getting a T6. I think with repeatable sources we are looking at being 20 pull ish under the average rate for 10 dollars a month. F2P is sitting at every 4 being above the average but below it every 3 units.

Ascension isn’t enough of a reason for most to spend (except maybe the Pandora deal), as its boost is looking like maybe 11% boost after getting the first ascension for most units.

[sand cairn]

Can anyone help me? Artifact Bellicose Veil says "casting movement ability increase Signature damage" I though I could use it on mythic Ikora, but her dash doesn't have "movement" tag. Does it work with the artifact? It literally moves you through space.

[signal spade]

It prob works but you also prob don't want to use bellicose veil on ikora

[rocky nebula]

Is it still not possible to use a mouse and keyboard on iPad?

[sand cairn]

What would you use then?

[signal spade]

If you can remember to jump nimble veil is strong, you pretty much only ever want artifacts that buff damage instead of specifically signature

[karmic chasm]

Not anymore 🥀

My Rossi is washed now. My build was so good before S3

[signal spade]

Cause damage is weapon and ability but signature is just gonna buff the beam essentially

Courageous planetismal is also a very good generic one you can use on pretty much any character but it's a little weaker than others

[dawn plover]

I used to be a tan main

Now that I’m using efrideet I’ve gone more into overshielf efrideet or summon pact

[bitter estuary]

rossi with new void bow is nice

[karmic chasm]

I’d argue I had the strongest Rossi in the world for a short time, was at one point second in power only to a guy using useless Ning artifacts

[karmic chasm]

Yea I like it, still collecting mods for it but I’ve been playing hella casually so

[bitter estuary]

but thats about it

we need a new crossbow

[karmic chasm]

We do

But I don’t wanna save up for Trinity copies

Will take me a year 👍

[bitter estuary]

trinity sucks no?

[karmic chasm]

Then again when we get Le Monarque I could switch

[bitter estuary]

new void bow is really fast

[karmic chasm]

Better on Rossi than HH

[bitter estuary]

ok

[karmic chasm]

But yea I think Maha still technically the better option especially with the void bow option

[empty kettle]

Pretty mid for an exotic bow

[lone lion]

Yoo

[midnight mirage]

hows the player count looking

[lone lion]

God damn

How do I open this box?

[sweet sorrel]

What are the best artifacts to use on efrideet? I'm new and wanna start trying to build her

[empty kettle]

Wait for s5

[dawn plover]

I’ve heard summons are a good set for them , since the spears count at summons

[sweet sorrel]

Idk what that is but sounds interesting

[dawn plover]

I’ve been told
Nourishing pact , healing veil, summoning pact , undaunted spiral

[sweet sorrel]

Got it

Thank you!

[dawn plover]

No worries brotha

[signal spade]

Ring of conversion slaps

Frick healing veil

[karmic chasm]

True

[bronze venture]

daily commission still bugged?

[dark gulch]

hey peeps

good morning!!

[sullen depot]

What was the bug?

[dark gulch]

You know whats bugged? My main storyline

wants me to complete all three Blitz and i did several times while on leviathan

[bronze venture]

on one of the commissions doesn't spawn the enemies

[stark forge]

did u play all 3 different maps ?

[lone lion]

Oh I see thanks bro

[dark gulch]

yep

multiple times…

ive been in calls sharing my screen to figure it out

[lone lion]

Will probably have to use these or save for Act 2

[signal spade]

Universal condensate in them is op

[last ravine]

danggg efrideet with cloudstrike hits like a massive truck lol

[lone lion]

Bro give me the Thunderlord

Izanagi for what😭 😭 😭

[neon pebble]

Think im going to have to main Rossi

[plucky prism]

hi

ive q

[brittle plover]

If the game was designed to need barriers more then it’d be valid but the game is just a dps check unfortunately and Rossi sucks at that

[plucky prism]

what is the best machine gun dmg total rotate on estela

talent 0

[karmic chasm]

Why 😭

We mained him for like 2 seasons bro that’s enough

[wispy maple]

Wigkora is fun to play

[wide dagger]

It’s hairykora

[jolly grove]

Any of the exotic ones are good

Do people use the bp exotic gl for hairkora?

[dark gulch]

cloustrike gooood orrrr do i do the crimson and zico

[willow siren]

HA

HA can get u lots of lvl 2 summons

[plucky prism]

witch the best char dps talent 0 ?

[twilit thistle]

The exotics aren't my priority atm. Its the rolls that go with the mythics

[dark gulch]

i see i see

[twilit thistle]

Im running double mythic most days in chaos 😂

[thorny frost]

Trying to test how all of the speed boost interact will be …fun lol… I found another one in the melee gem skill, increases movement speed by 20% for 15 seconds.

[dark gulch]

i dislike these weapon mods that give a chad perk but then “but you take less___” im like oh

[plucky prism]

witch the best character dps talent 0 ?

[white yew]

Estella

with heir apparent

[frozen tree]

Depends on whether you want highest burst or highest damage over time

Cuz different characters are good at different things

[bitter estuary]

i can tolerate if its lower firerate but i draw the line on heavy ammo

[plucky prism]

are u sure?

[white yew]

yes

[bitter estuary]

estela is the best yeah, then helhest t0

[vast arch]

My T1 Estela can hit 10M damage on new onslaught 2nd encounter boss. That's without a maxed heir as well

[frozen tree]

Estela is good t0? I have a tough decision to make between Jaren and Estela at the end of the season

[plucky prism]

okayyyyyyy

[vast arch]

I've seen T6 with maxed Heir hit 19M damage

[violet goblet]

Guys im new in the game what is the best youtuber to watch for the beginners

[white yew]

jaren is good for brute forcing content

[vast arch]

Ask the people in this chat before going to youtube

[dark gulch]

she is t0 to me

[limber pine]

Helping people today with stage 2 and 3 lmk

Just did a 5 min clear stage 2

[frozen tree]

My current mains are Efri and wolf, and I’m considering building base kabr and/or umeko if I get the time this season

[dark gulch]

My umeko is t5 i think

[limber pine]

Anyone besides lordbrandon. Misery and unknowndr are my favs

[frozen tree]

If I decide to build Kabr this season I could skip the weapon grind on Estella

[dark gulch]

what about that Palooza person

[limber pine]

He's solid but hard at explaining things lol

[dark gulch]

Plazooka

[frozen tree]

Kinda the same idea with jaren if I build a handcannon for Efri besides crimson