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@bleak pelican
I’m about to be in the same boat
Someone please send me a vid of cloudstrike testing before I invest more time into it 😭
rip
i saw a vid of it and it does look promising for dps but imo man i just can't drop this hand cannon
balls
jezibaba is nice but i NEED to see how till eternal death plays with cat 3
Was it more than this?
If so I might switch
Damn
has anyone managed to get an all 45 artifact drop yet? I'm about to return to the mines and try to improve mine
i got a 3/4 45
you should give me that one 😹
I got 4 million XD
sadly after I got these stats all of the ones have been lower
and I know whats going to piss me off, my first 4x45 artifact roll will definitely be healing nutation or talisman of revival
because I never use them
The more you get the better they get.
Who want to help me out?
eventually the number will go up, its just a matter of time
bes
POG for hairkora
There is also an unstuck at the end, if ur fast enough.
So how good is efriddet exactly? there isnt any tier lists I can find that seem consistent or newer.
Like obviously Estela, Helhest and such are the best. But where is efrideet?
We are going to make that teir list soon. Data inconclusive. A or S has not been assined yet for her. Will see after morgrans.
she's good for rapid fire expanse 😹
Sounds good. What do you guys personally think? just not sure if she is worth E6 or not
great even
if you dont think you're going to play her a lot you probably shouldnt E6 her
So is @cobalt beacon
Just got stage 30 Piercing with Estela. Honestly not that bad
you're right I was looking at the wrong leaderboard per usual 😅
Looks like she could be a worse helhest, but the data is not all in yet. I am giving them to the end of this morgrans cycle to call it.
(and i say that bc they got stuck on 72, where the helhest can clearly be seen getting past it. Ik what that means)
I’m just going to grind it when we unlock full power and then I’ll wait for yall to find the tech and then I’ll just go straight to the top lol
Ez plan for expanse
people also have hh built since she has been out longer so thats another factor
I think its more of helhest has a more reliable heal/sustainability
Okay and for Helhest. I'd love to play her a ton, but she feels weak to me. At least in comparison to my E6 Estela. Does she require E6 and I've missed my chances?
so she can play cover and peak shot better in expanse
ntm arbalest which is just insane for shields and big chunks of dmg
True, Just gotta see proof tho. She has to be able to match or beat a HH imo, and i would also have to take in feedback from the community.
She’s good
Ooh I wonder if Helhest feels weak to me becasue I dont got Arby
So i got to do the great hunt to get the 40 universal shards from settlement rewards?
Its gonna take alot to dethrone HH from S tier.
I mean helhest is considered the strongest in the game at t6
no
thank you
Np
HH as a support is irriplacable at the moment
that new handcannon, i have no idea if thats good or not either. Been seeing a lot of maxed out crimson usage
I think we are only going to have 3 characters at S, too, for simplicity. (and bc this is the ideal fireteam)
now do the max cloud strike one, I swear i'm not trying to see the ability usage in the damage rotation 🤣
Support is a joke made by the devs
not talking about the role on the character
This is such a dumb take, it’s a weapon test on a character not strictly weapon test
I doubt she will beat helhest, but she might be able to match helhest. Morgrans is the best place to prove this. I can see what damage they are hitting by inspecting them. (In that case, i will call it interchangeable. has to be one of these. She cannot be dependant on a HH tho.)
just saying that heavy gen with access to arbalest is just a tough combo to beat for teamplay in a game that is very shield dependent
her kit is just stacked
On the raid for 3rd encounter , our efrideet did the most damage and was mvp @twilit thistle
If you know how to play her and how to use her , she’s good
what artifacts do you like running on her?
Fair play.
for the raid challenge "complete with your pack" do you need all 6 from your pack? or jsut 1 person for your pack?
She is known to be better than jaren with fair play.
thats completely debatable. depends on the encounter
(pvp)
I think both are strong in there own ways for fairplay raid content
pvp yeah def
@random talon
There are like a million types of fairplay ig i should specifiy i meant pvp lol (fun fact every single fairplay is different. I have not seen one that was the same)

Unless the new sniper rifle somehow has some crazy taniks based tech that is discovered. Helhest is already picked to beat her. She is the first in A tier tho, for sure. And who knows next act, that might change bc like jaren, her value may go up when everyone gets skill. Issue being we are comparing her to a char that auto crits.
I swear there was a build thread at one point? Where did it go lol
Man...i wish Destiny Rising had PC Port...I'm starting to miss playing Destiny in general
Can't play that game without graphic card since it died and no i don't have consoles to play D1
Just wish great for that game.
ty
Np
might have just gotten a t4 undaunted spiral rn
Why not play on Mumu tho
wat
Can Mumu even work without graphic card ?
man cloudstrike is so good in chaos
My beloved mode in this game...way more fun than Destiny 2 Dares of Eternity
I’m still waiting for a video on a well built cloudstrike build to see if it’s worth investing into 😭 looks like I’ll just have to build it myself
Borealis is better. I have preached that for a very long time. The one that is even better than borealis right now is a mythic tho. Double mythic is the umeko meta.
Not sure tbh I’m a mobile players with controller
Yeah but borealis was never in the picture
I hope Thunderlord is goated. Because I love my Divinity/Outbreak Furies 3 on Estela destroying everything. But Thunderlord would be a nice change in pace
I feel like the Mumu won't work without graphic card...
Does it has graphic settings ? I forgot
So i can make everything low
I’m hoping it’s goated but for other reasons I want to finally build my legendary Kabr
If u build her primaries to have rate of fire it gets kinda op. Idk what play session ur going for but if its a long one i always pick this up.
that sounds like it'd be pretty good too, yeah
Ummmm I think @bitter estuary plays on mumu he’d be able to help you more I have no idea tbh
Tho this is built for lassi, which requires crit for bear.
partial weakness and just body shot everything with sniper
and i just take whatever else i can get
executioner tier 3 is really good cus its +125% damage at 50% health or below
understood
U underestimate the speed. +45% rate of fire on bear. +20% from mod. +30% from gift.
why primary when infinite heavy ammo
Also with 1 round refunded to the mag for every 3 precision hits landed, it lasts a long time.
cloudstrike sorta has that
sorry but the only reason i'd use cloudstrike is to utilize it in onslaught
like it's a good sniper
just not the sniper i'd switch out to other than that
I think of del3 like a vaccum cleaner for the red bars, and just swap to ist3 if its a yellow bar. Unless its the other one, i don't touch adept for long (100+) sessions. Statistics say I would rather message ppl in discord while i am capturing zones. Cloudstrike good tho i mean i used to use borealis and similar guns without scoping
still irrelevant for me as i did fine without it
i just think its fun
it is fun
partial weakness works perfectly with its exotic traits
huh
How does the banking work outside the illusion in Njourn? When yoh are have the 6 pedestals
im saying i will never switch off that hand cannon to utilize cloudstrike
in any scenario
Do u happen to have a usuable gun with the new frat? If so can u test that out for me sometime on umeko? (movement speed boost)
any hidden triumphs for the raid?
no i still dont even know how half the new systems work
As long as the gun says its there, it works with any mod. (not even sure if it requires a mod tbh)
you mean theres a new upgrade to this or...?
idk how yall get perfect gun perks and perk levels and unique upgrades so osten
we vibin
Look at it from perk pool. There are now two
oh neat
oh yeah
am i witnessing a stasis come back? need the raid homie back full time
bout dang time
🐐 returns. Soon he will be #1 on the leaderboards i bet
Ngl been loving tan lately
#1 issakis fan that is
i love not moving for 3 minutes
nice mate
how the hell are you 94k
im a good bit behind, missing 1 upgrade on my hand cannon then the rest is emanare
Support tan
88k atm for me on my efrideet
their emanare is maxed for now
U mean that blitz mode?
"blitz"
how the mighty have fallen...
Grinding fam, takes time
@twilit thistle forgor to show u dis
are you using an amd apu or mac or intel igpu
why does a primary do so much damage
cat 3 kinda fire ngl
power creep my beloved
🤔
I hope that doenst mean theres some rediculous gilding challenge that requires this
balls
When is Estella or Gwyn comin back in the draws or can they at least have a way for ppl to get past characters via playin the game OR OR just throw them in a general pool of characters to draw from ????
hmmm if only there was a new method just added for that purpose
Enlighten me please 👉🏽👈🏽
Elemental Condensate
they just need the new system to be used for both versions of copies and ascending
why’s your power so low
why are gwyn and estela included as “recent” characters for the bonus but not helhest or jaren?
Cool, just need to join a Pack also
Don’t try me lol
not even 100k smh
you can afk with me playing lol
I wanna cordon
what stages?
ok i actually forgot i have to go like rn goodbye chat
i’m fiending a good cordon team mate
@fiery marsh another quick update on how much better efrideet is compared to Jaren 😗 messed up on rotation and still better then 15mil 😭
that power lvl aint low...
who ever says so... they tripping
every new character should be better than the rest, that’s how they get you to buy
6-7 8+
i’m obviously trolling bruh lol
I’m aware, but he had said that Jaren was better so I had to buy t6 to prove his t6 Jaren couldn’t beat it 😔
hmu later tonight i’m down, got a 94k jaren, that’s why i said you’re power is low lmao
you're tripping
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lightning dmg bumps me up from 66,702 to 79,941 without buffs
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lightning dmg with artifacts when i dodge brings me from 100,654 base to 120,625
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lightning dmg with artifacts, dodge & javelin brings me from 128,729 base to 154,278
IM down just need 1 rapid lol
Hated on it when it first dropped but now I prefer it over crimson as of late, as long as you hit your shots it’s a beast
correct
I knew it was better for single target, crimson just felt more fun to use, but ultimately whatever kills things the fastest is the most fun
you’re clueless aren’t you
Farming the 2nd raid encounter for the lmg. First time we needed a second phase. Some people just don't shoot 😭
Been listening to the Zelpachad Ahamkara theme for Njorun, Caital's theme from Duality Dungeon for Zau'ul, and Royal Pools/The Hunted (Leviathan Bathers and Dogs encounter) theme all for the new Raid and it makes it so peak
bet, we should be able to find a decent estella or ning at this point, my enamre boosts almost 9k now so if we can’t i can swap
The music? After doing that raid so many times the music irritates me lmao I had to turn it off mid raid
I love the music in the raid itself but the new audio bugs in the raid specifically turn me off from having music on while I play it
?
real
You’ve been quiet and joking less lately, I don’t like it
That's exactly why I chose those songs instead for the different encounter's. I think I cooked
I think it bugs out, sometimes it stays even when you leave the map lol
im tired from the meetings at work
Yeah lol the audio queues would randomly be insanely loud
🤔 Coulda hit a sub 20 if i had tried harder in the beginning
chat should I matchmake the new raid?
Well I hope you get some rest bro
Yes but mainly second encounter
ye it's all good
No u should save ur energy and carry taniks and I when its time 🙂
Yes but Blueberries struggle on last encounter very very often
That's what i have to do unfortunately . Have no friends or pack mates to play with
2nd encounter vs 3rd encounter in a completely random matchmade team?
I’m a solo player lol, just gotta make more friends brother
Very doable
Haven’t been in a pack for weeks
no random queue the raid
I didn't go to sleep last night but I just got up from a 1h nap so I'm ready to struggle some more
I cleared every normal encounter multiple times just random queuing
i’ve done the whole raid solo queue no comms, it’s a treat lol
I'm just tryna get the sub 5-minute run on 1st encounter
ok I'm gonna do it
Oh wait you're asking about great hunt, haven't logged in today thought it was removed
Stayed up for 30 hours to hit those leaderboards until I found my team, was worth every moment
no audio either
We become friends then the next day we never talk again. So many 1 night stands 😭
Done the first encounter 38 times and still no Cloudstrike. even with double rewards
literally 76 attempts of loot basically
it builds character for sure haha, you should be fine though could clear solo almost
I got it 2nd run with my weeklies
it was a lot of fun. I had a good time and wasn't expecting to stay up all night but man it was worth it
I can't run it tonight but I can run with you tomorrow afternoon @vast arch
Still mad I got Jotunn from 3rd encounter earlier
down
I wanna do the leaderboard rush but the 2nd encounter is spooky
happy for u my g
I'm gonna do some normal runs, you wanna join?
I tried teaching a five stack and we got so close, just couldn't pull it together for 3rd boss in time
Same I was passing out for a bit during the raid but got some coffee and thugged it out, happy I got to finish it with my team and had fun while doing it
We'd reach damage phase once but didn't have the damage to one phase since some players were missing chars
Took me like 15 tries with the default 3% drop rate. Honestly played it so much that im sick of that part of the raid lol
And then we'd throw or the instance would bug when we continued for the two phase
i only got my efrideet built up at talent 2
Damn 😔 yeah we 2 phased it, but still got the clear
just realized im close to 90k 
Me with the entirety of Eclipse Monolith 😭
Several times we had very safe two phases but then the ball couldn't be picked up
having a consistent team was really important with how many bugs there were 😭
So when that happened for our team we would have the other guy pick up ball and throw it to the guy who was originally doing it, that helped us a bit
Yeah we did that too but sometimes none of us could pick it up
Oh yeah. I think it was worse for that raid. Don't think they had the raid weapon pity thing. Think they added that later
Yeah lol we didn’t have many bugs for our runs, only the one where it puts both encounters in one room, jumped out and got swarmed by like 30 units and 3 elites and was like tf just happened 😭
I'm still missing 2 Gallows
That’s odd, yeah 3rd encounter was super buggy glad my team didn’t deal with 75% of them
Is it weird that I kind of enjoyed the little tentacle tunnel room?
I thought that was a nice little addition
Unless cloudstrike is truly a new meta for umeko i rlly dont need to run it 🤷♀️ only one i would need other than that is just as broken (and useless) as exotic bvd4
Mechanics were fun, but it was nice to have a simple “skill” check lol that wasn’t super hard to do
I felt so bad bc the first group I cleared raid with beat boss in like 30m so I told the new group it would take us an hour max
I think we were stuck on 3rd from 1am until contest closed
That’s insane 😭
2nd was easiest for my team 3rd took a little bit but no more then an hour of actual playtime I think, I kept having to charge my phone cuz my phone was getting to hot 🙈
So we took more breaks then we really needed to
2nd was easiest? Not 1st?
I don’t even consider first a challenge in all honesty
Real
Without cheese tho I feel like 2nd is hardest by far
And then 3rd is just playing your life
Efrideet without cheese makes it soooo much easier
I was soloing staggers while everyone else did damage
Most staggers I had was 6 with my buddy on his back with hellhest
What cheese? Kinda want to know in case i have time to do it eventually
Would instapop front and he’d instapop back
we wiped our first attempt because nobody threw the last ball
I do love tho how people were all "Estela should be involved with the story" and then it turns out she was meta for raid
you can cheese 2nd?
I can dm you our clear video if you want
send me too
Still hard to do without a good team
We did 4:58 with cheese and first phased it
You don't have to stand in pools for ball until the void guy dies, so you just get the ball to the chalice before killing him
Oh that cheese, we did another one
Where you skip the plates but still throw it to person in pool of light
So 1 less mechanic
I’d send the video here but can’t post links 😔
Oh dang that's a good cheese. You can ignore 1 of the mechanics
Still need to roll level 5 perks on my gl and get a better 4th artifact
Also means you don't need to stun boss since it's so fast
chat we cleared 2nd encounter on our 2nd attempt
the bots did nothing
Quick damage test vid for cloudstrike, courtesy of WhiskyRomeo, still missing 3rd catalyst as well
As much as I would love to run Great Hunt, my little gremlin makes it an impossibility 😭
cloudstrike is great for dps, period
I had an Efrideet with no upgrade cloudstrike and they matched my Estsela DPS
Yeah cloudstrike is fire not as much as I’d hoped but still good dps and better then what we had
I’ll probably run Ted for most content still tho unless they release new content where I need fast damage in a short period of time
To bad thunder lord didn’t get dps like cloudstrike XD
my point still stands unfortunately, i'd only switch to it for onslaught
guys is there a phase 2 bug?
because on 2nd phase the same ppl who had the ball before cant pick it up
That’s odd we did it a ton and never ran into that issue
Only bug we encountered was boss being immune on second damage phase
on 3rd enc not 2nd
we'll have to wait and see when they fix the bug with Estela
What is the exact bug? I didn’t seem to notice it when I was testing it (only second catalyst band)
Oh yeah a few people are having that issue apparently, but we would just pick it up and throw it back to the original person
Person that did it first can’t see it tho
When you cast abilities it resets the bonus ROF
So guys when will the first Exotic 6 star character be? and why is it Felwinter 🥸
i see so you do need to try aim for 1 phase on 3rd enc ye?
I mean preferably yes, we 2 phased it but 1 phase would be better if you want to stay away from the bugs
I will test again but I felt like I was getting it. I calced the bullets used and I was shooting about 700 bullets per minute which even with my 18% mod on primary would imply increased fire rate
Like exotic? I hope never lol
I’m cool with mythic being the highest tier for characters in dr
Also would help with my buyers regret on the mythic pulls lol
Have exotics be like an event unit you don’t pull for but can use for a season (this is a joke).
just my hopium
No no, this is actually a valid take, only downside I can see is people only using that unit for damn near all content and not upgrading their preexisting ones
I didn't do extensive testing but it looked like the rof was slowing down after casting based on visual effects from the muzzle
When I have a moment I will do a test between a 450achine gun and it to test
If mythic t6 cost about 600$ to t6 I don’t even want to think about the cost for exotics 💀
Add a new SIVA Raid with an ARG to obtain a single Felwinter. with extensive ARGs to get upgraded tiers of Felwinter. and he has Siva infused abilities with Void
I think people would get upset if a unit was “sunsetted” tho. Imagine if we could use Saladin for only one season
He'd be free but only the most prestige and lucrative of players could obtain him
I mean that’s true, but they could release it as an exotic and free for everyone like you suggested then later release it as a mythic, think of it more as a trial run to test how people react to the character, they could also fix small issues or buff them accordingly before their full release
Then again if it’s bad people won’t spend on it
And will already know not to pull for it
Compared to people t6ing units simply because theoretically they are good
It would make rarities seem useless tho if they did that method as well
You could do the seasonal thing, but not playable for a season, rather obtainable for a season, being the season that has this ^ raid tied to it
Hmmm maybe, but it would have to be free if it’s a seasonal character or like tac said people would throw a fit
Have Felwinter players run around like Elusive Excalibur Prime havers
"Yeah I did this raid from this one season long ago and I'm one of the only people to have completed the entire ARG for T6 Felwinter"
Aura
I’ve heard this word so many times over the past 2 days I don’t ever want to hear it again 😭
They'd get Roflwaffles on that ARG and everything. SIVA and SIVA powers alone and an Exotic Free Character would all pull so more traction to the game
The only downside would be FOMO, but Felwinter would be the only character in this situation that I'd love to have as a FOMO
I just want cayde 😔
I’m a hunter main tho and cayde will forever be my favorite
Shoot, if they ever add Shin Malphur (Forgot how to spell it) They could have him be the first darkness-bearer with the poison subclass we all thought we'd get in Destiny 1
@tropic swift I found an oob on the stage estela mains complained about so much netease changed the expanse that cycle.
Fair. He'd probably be a Blade Barrage since we already got Goldie
Ace of Spades, Cayde-6 Blade Barrage, Give him a fan-throwing knife signature and a roll-dodge for invis signature
Borealis jumpscare in Legacy
Helps he was shown using it even if it was just once before.
Have one of his Tier upgrades be Shards of Galanor
Lowk I'm cooking up crazy ideas today. Felwinter SIVA raid ARG exotic character. And now Cayde six full kit and upgrades and designated exotic
Rising could do a SIVA subclass because Helhest uses technology for abilites and Estela uses Ahamkara magic. so Using Void SIVA for Felwinter would fit really good
Welp, technically it still not gonna be light/dark subclass ☝️🤓
Oh its okay we can throw some void effects in there or imbue the SIVA with it. With a Void-infused SIVA relic
SIVAWONTMISS
Man randoms can't do the 2nd part of the raid on easy all of sudden 😭
Had to switch to my t3 estela and i still feel like my randoms don't do damage to anything
My first go on Normal I cleared with the boss nearly getting to the ball each time lol
BRO WHAT DO YOU MEAN
Lol wth🤣 🤣 🤣
Yeah feels like no one plays that mode. Stuck at 5 on both sides. Calamity ops was better since it didn't split the already small player base
😂 I am saving that one
Damn. I'm still farming part 1. Need one more copy to max out my cloudstrike
aight bro who wanna run this man i need to upgrade my dang starchart
Same, need 1 more copy to fully max it out. Decided to try and get the other 2 exotics since I'm out of mats to upgrade it anyway
Intel GPU.
Intel(R) UHD Graphic 630
After, I will go for lmg. I dont need the rocket. Not a fan of spread
Honestly I heard both the lmg and rocket aren't better than what we already have. Supposedly they are both bugged and don't work correctly
Probably will be fixed Thursday
This will take forever 👀
agreed
All I want is helhest
Guys. Can you upgrade a character tier with the condensates?
Ok I did to many tests yesterday and it is looking like my 700 RoF was if using just misfortune with it, so it wasn’t slowing it down often enough. Not using that it was slightly higher. When using dragons with it it drops down to in the 500 RoF range. In general the weapon needs to be more forgiving, any type of stall makes it so the lightning strikes are reset. So Kabr using it would reset both when ever he used a skill too.
Also I wasnt around for season 3. Is ikora's event the same as kabr's? As in after its over Ikora will go to free banner?
Try this with it, see if it breaks more
oh maybe its an intel igpu issue
Yes
Ty
Thanks for testing!
O right the 700 is with 18 % RoF mod still on the primary as I didn’t think to take that off
Same with 500 some with dragons
You reminded me that I still had my RoF mod on my primary
@obtuse chasm balls we did 2 phase it despite the crappy bug
balls
How u got universal
balls
balls
true
agreed
Currently tried here playing the game and it's working decent so far
6% chance in engrams could pull the slot (it currently has the skins too so once those are knocked out it would be 6% before that not sure what the distribution odds are).
so does this just like not work or what
it says complete ANY of the following
still phase 2
to go phase it up
what
click on this
that just brings up the overview menu
ok cool its the exact same button in a different menu
why couldnt they just put it on the other screen too
😭
wut in the heck is this
@cobalt beacon brooo them cheats you sent were crazy, spread Jaren OP
idc what any of u midkoras do that jaren is a beast
one final run and ill be 90k
The game mode that was removed. A tower defense gamemode I was addicted to called bulwark ops 😭
dang
DO PEOPLE CONSTANTLY do OPS repeatedly?...
"farming" in 1 day... Repeat them over 8times?...
Which ones?
In all honesty... I don't want to be Spending the EXOTIC materials for those DARN Passive talents
hey man its only done once
na..aahh...
at least for this season...
Oh boy Legacy farming yayyyyy
I need my Mobius Clusters... For the Weapon exotic Mods.
u struggling?
all i want is to test my damage with cloudstrike and these people cannot figure out final boss
BPass spender only...
mf just killed me twice when i went inside
ah, makes sense
i just never spent most of mine except on one weapon
😹
and only reached exspase 30 as highest
but hey man struggle all u want
just invest and save like i do, i got nothing to waste it on i only built 1 toon
ALL I want?...
I'm not Choosing to Struggle... DAM Netese do this
want me to rly flex rn?
So many activities be Requiring players to play certain Gun Roles.

dis is correct but at the same time u could just invest in battle pass weapon tokens
put 5 in the bank then let it grow over time
Nah... u don't own that much... nah... nah
New exotics any good?
i can buy em all, want me to test it out
I only see monthly 4/4 (x1=10) in silver store...
manz gullible ah
You need to look in the right tab
Bois on reddit cheated ahamkara, they cheating BP tokens too
213 and still on t3. 😭
T6 arnt for you. Too much on your shoulders when you have T6
People expect T6 to be max built and best. Bro I can be T6 and working on my build still
cloudstrike is pretty good, this is only 2nd band no 3rd cata
artifacts dont match either cus i have solar
my guy did a terrible job at numbering
the lightning strikes trigger every 3 shots it seems and deal the damage of about 3 shots, so the 3rd cata is quite a large boost
can u give me baselines? Full heavy (and only heavy) just magdump as fast as possible (abilities are banned). Vs izi. Dont change anything between tests. Then, just go all out on both for 30 seconds.
6767676767676676767
no artifacts or nothing?
also when you say no abilities im assuming i can at least use dash for reload speed
Thats taniks stuff. For me, just dont change anything ❤️🔥 has to be the same setup and dont change artifacts (or cater to cloudstrike for this one with an arc dmg boost for example). (i trust your word)
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Love playing ViDEE games & Love to help/Assist players... Just Call me and I'll try my best to reply back to you.
ill do no artifacts just because things scale differently and mine have solar boost etc
gotta go do something real quick give me like 15
oh also, let me know if theres something better than garrison servitor
These are too easy now tbh, completed them without even looking at the quests at all, just playing the game 😭
These medals used to mean something
got me crying in the club
Pointless bc taniks will redo it anyways. That's why I go for real world tests, umeko would have to use fang of ir yut, over the superior total lockdown, making this default impractical for her. (taniks likes this kinda data).
One more node though, im almost done with crimson. Ill finish it off phase 4 I think, dont feel like farming this week
Does anyone know if emboldening support is a flat 20% per stack?
Does anyone have a confirmation on how to do Ginunaga on normal within 5 minutes?
Doesn't seem possible without guessing.
FRICKEN HELL!!! people spending THOUSANDS of dollars to COMPLETE THE ASCEND Buff
Worth
I understand for Trading cards...
BUT for a in-game character buff?...
You deserve a WOOPING 
I play dokkan battle XD
Let's just say some banners aren't friendly
And you only get 1 pity when a rainbow needs 4 dupes
?
balls
I relate to that so much looking at blitz legion hunt
exactly what it says, my dude
I know I threw
on Fortnite Cosmetics and Rcent Years (play Tracks and in-game lego builds)...
again... Just cosmetic...
but I don't do the whole thing with hand over cash to be all MIGHTY ppowerful.
I might just forge my adept corn+horror roll into my emboldening support+horror roll
Lightning balls
Ngl my biggest shame is the amount of money I put into castle clash since I had 2 accounts 🤣
➡️ #off-topic ⬅️
well im gonna do it anyway
Okay
Does anyone know whybhitting challenge again in blitz moves you to random queue?
REMINDER!...
WIN SHADOW DUELS for the SEASON Quest
TRUE
Test maxed build Izi with solar substats vs max build Cloud with arc substats
i dont have that
also the stupid servitor KEEPS FLINCHING
IT IS TURNING 135 DEGREES
What good is a base build test when numbers are small? You need to max build vs max build to see the real difference. 100k diff dmg at base build could be 1mil+ diff in max build
- it is simply not possible for me to max cloudstrike rn
- i dont have artifacts for arc
Thats issue I have alot of times, like now. I dont own the stuff so I cant test it
this isnt supposed to be like conclusive evidence of anything, i just noticed cloudstrike not even being maxed out was outperforming my izi on the wrong artifacts (solar)
Idek how to play Efri, I could test base izi vs base cloud on umeko maybe
MAN season 4 really hit on launch, i hope they keep this up
scuffed cloudstrike (no 3rd band) over 30s vs max izi over 30s, no offensive artifacts
@twilit thistle thoughts?
also theyre both 2 star, and level 90 but cloudstrike is missing all these upgrades
Izi doing 1.7mil in 10 while cloud did 1.1mil in 10
Do 4rounds in 1 mag for Izi
yeah izi is still the king of burst ofc
i did?
That was sad then, Izi isnt king of crap
it scales a lot higher with spreading shadow
3 shurikens, shoot, super, shoot
its good for like 3-5 seconds of damage probably
Well Efri is that single target dps chick that AoEs on like every hit. Makes sense her sniper does also
i meant for umeko specifcally
Good single target dps with crazy aoe still
Izi = burst
Borealis = arbys with no cheddar
i hate borealis
It looks alright but everytime you try it it just isnt what you want
Its a trap sniper fr
i can MAYBE see it being useful in the high stages of cordon because of match game but thats still a huge stretch
I told myself at launch "Tan2 finna be ma man, ima max Borealis and just own this game"
I feel like those new Adept mods that add dmg to ele shields AND shinka both is prob lowkey better
Oh bro lemme go find it
I couldnt believe what adept mods they gave us. 80% of exotics are cooked
how do u even get adept mods
Idk but look
40% dmg bro
To ele shield and shinka
holy s**t
This one... I have.
Dont waste it
Unsure what weapon should have it...
since its a universal mod does that mean it can swap between any weapon type, or once you pick a weapon type its locked into that
Not locked to 1 element
It's all elements
but i mean if i put it on a scout for example then can it ONLY be used on piercing or?
And spread and rapid
ok so its not locked to a weapon type

only got The one mod though... (not verse boss Attribute though)
I just looked
That mod makes speedrunners go insane
Exact whats needed to beat out HH on leaderboards
She is using Arby, go ahead and break shinka with Bow
That is Not an adept mod
What ia it
Regular mod
Nuh uh
Just a Season 4 mod
Universal so it can be used on any weapon type
Go into the Synthesize Menu, there you can find the adept mods
Im so lost
Roll me powerful combatant dmg and accuracy pls
Adept mods aren’t out yet (phase 5 is the earliest we found, I was mistaken before)
Accuracy isn’t on it, this is the one I got tho XD as I use it on my primary tho it isn’t bad.
damn thats hot
Put it on your heavy
I love the new mods, they add a new layer to customization. It isn’t massive but it is something. They have some mods now that boost your other slot damage too. So exotics can get small boost from mods now due to it.
My heavy tends to be an exotic XD
Not anymore
I want to test that with misfortunes confetti to see if its ricochete can trigger that.
After hours playing, Destiny Rising can be played without graphic card when you have good internal graphic card.
How nice...
Also i played this ahamkara raid, that thing is CRAZY when comes final boss.
Get me bad juju then we can talk lol. I do have some builds I am working on for furies tho, most of the time that slot is used for 40% primary damage then.
yeah new mods are great
its a shame getting them is the most boring thing ever
front lines puts me to sleep
so... we not losing big dmg if the primary doesn't use Element dmg?...
If we be shooting BOSSes with Primary?... (if equip with Base/Elite Attribute)
I use primary to help with red mobs/elites. I use heavy for primarily boss and shinkas if ammo is a concern. If I think I need primary for boss I will probably look into a furies build as that has better sustain then most primaries
Best use and OPEN to Tackle for the H-V-missions.
what
I have been planting myself at the end of a front line when I do my legendary/blitz runs. If they are close to finishing it after a run I help at the end then go back to the other content.
oh good idea
Atking the open wold Wild enemies to clear Bounties.
Yesss got Withered Core cosmetic for TED, best season ever 😮
Best artifact set for efrideet
U can swap out 1 2 n 3 with abundant planetismal undaunted and preponderant plasma but these are most definitely bis
yeah they go kinda silly
pretty sure every time her spear does the lightning jolt from being shot it's counting as being resummoned or smtn cus it procs the nourishing healing again
dunno if that means it's also resetting rampaging's timer whenever that happens or not
Took a decent amount of grinding but it's done now
I’m pretty sure it counts the spear as a summon as long as it’s on the field or something
Giving away silver add me on discord dm me
@neat valley
i mean that's what you'd think should happen but Nourishing only heals on a summon being created and yet it heals every time the spear strikes lightning (when you shoot the speared target) as well as the initial throw
Sorry i am about to tear my hair out in the expanse but will get metrics later.
if the spear was just being counted as an on field summon and that's it you'd get the initial heal from nourishing and then it'd do nothing after
@thorny frost @cyan tide 😭 I am out here trying to make a guide for you two because 43 is just cursed. Its the one with all the mele guys.
Is that the one with 2 entrances at the first capture spot? And then second capture spot has the rapid fire shinka coming down the hallway?
The one every estela main has flackbacks of.
Yea I think that was the one lol
gg i just found out how broken OP the Emanare is for power gain
I was like "how ware people casually breaking the 90k power mark
IF you're swimming in Materials
and now my Estela is like 95.6k
I just Realized that the seasonal Shop Doesnt have a Limit despite saying so
So far its balancing on the capture point, then jumping to the right, ontop of that ledge. targeting the captian, and using the super. Focusing those two captains down and the dregs. Going back to the pillar. Waiting for two dregs to come out, targeting them. Then sprinting and using the summons to distract all of them. Going up on another ledge after touching the zone, taking down the rapid shinka. Then i think you have to balance on the pillar to cap it. This sounds simple but in all reality, it is anything but simple.
You can buy more than 16 of that Material that Allows you to craft Exotic Engrams
Healing veil over conversion imo
it's 16/week but it has a backlog
or rather per season phase
genuinely does drain my materials. but worth. Also my glimmer hurts so much. I was just at 400k now im at 112. not 112k, I mean 112
Interesting, Thanks for letting me know 🙂
if you didn't buy the 16 from phase 2 before then that's what you bought now
and after cleaning it out the 16 from phase 3 would have replaced it
I see
Not to Forget the WEEKLY items...
I remember dancing around the first pillar till high 40% as the second set of mobs spawned at 50% finished first batch then start on second. Being this far under light tho it probably will be harder now and a lot easier to die.
1 shot.
Ok since you all begged me ill come back to destiny rising
how do i do 3rd part on normal big sadge
That is the two 👍
But I like to use Cluster bombs for Clear groups
Curious, What happened with Crotas End ? It was limited access ? Will it return ?
he eepy
it was time limited but they may bring it back
hey all if thiers a bug do i need to report it by email or can i do it on here ?
The ads are so buggy in this. They will OOB and kill u in the air and stuff. Its the worst encounter for this and should be removed imo.
I was attempting to get up to it, but can’t find my controller and 39 giving me an issue with touch controls XD
I hope it never comes back
But I’m pretty sure it is
Oh and there is a captain and a dreg at the end 😔 @indigo solar the estelas need an exploit. Ts is too hard. Hours on this.
Oh hell no. I'm just stopping at floor 40, screw that stage
I haven’t even started
That or I'll wait until I'm way above the recommended power
💁
Btw do you go for healing or overshield on Estela with ring of abundance/conversion? I never bothered farming for perfect attributes on slot 1/2
so are we all vets of destiny ?
Cause i can't withstand D2 situation, never will play it till they revert back how things was before Edge Of Fate
Cause i don't want to regrind my stuffs, specially Edge transit and so the sniper that ANNAHILATES Brig bosses.
And i love Destiny Rising
I hope they bring it back, i love the raids
I’ve been playing since 1BCE
same
i started d2 levaitan raid lol
Just praying to NetEase find way in making SIVA part of story
D1 is the best it was just getting go then they relesed D2 but i gotta say this game i like
theyve gotta all the iron lords are here
heard d1 didnt get any good till taken king
Well I cleared 39, I am just not use to doing content that kills me so easily with touch pad lol.
we have like 4 right now 5 if we include that we saw felwinter last season
that was the noobs
It got a LOT better with TTK
How do you get adept mythic weapons in this game?
Destiny 1 in the state its in now is the best thing in the destiny franchise
luck
Exactly.
Can't wait to see Felwinter die again
hahaha
It was already decent but TTK fixed a large amount of issues people had with year 1
this is different time line remember
The pvp could be touched up more
But they won't touch it again sadly
get rid of supers i think
kabr didnt die so we are on a different timeline than d1/2
Early Open beta of Destiny 2 and play all Expansions
Supers are fine in D1 (besides Slam)
yea agred
I know.
Maybe Xur does samething again like.
"You enjoy clapping crota with the sword right ? Well here a opportunity to nuke Aksis again."
"And Throwing balls right to Vosiks face"
💯
Deep Stone Crypt and Wrath Of The Machine.
Sucks that i don't have D1
But at least DSC is Wrath Of The Machine 2
same here
yea but the weapons aint all that i think
Still funny to think
Till this day the OG Tower is still in construction in D2
I guess somebody spent the budgets in buying exotic sparrows...
can we get the birth of taniks lol
Reskin slop era
I would love to play as Felwinter one day if they do it.
I mean like it would be awesome having Iron lords cast to play
We NEED the glorious Mercenary in Rising
Keep dreaming
yea that sounds awsome
They don’t get to pick that
my friend definatly wants a playable saladin
They don’t own the ip, it has to be greenlit by Sony/bungie.
Then i wish it to Ahamkara.
SO REAL 😭
siva abilities on felwinter
Ask the strictest company ever (Sony). Found that out a while ago. Netease had an opportunity to work with bungie btw and turned it down. Woulda been sorta 50/50 split development.
Im bouta buy the rights to d1 servers trust guy
to many legal stuff??
Gonna let bungie give me permission to make new content for d1
tbh if bungie doesnt please sony then sony might just sell the ip off lol
Well, the time is ticking for Bungie cause Marathon ain't that peak
im there when u do lol
Just wait to see Sony devour Bungie like Unicron's snack
Arguments and drama over it, and the income. 🤷🏼♀️ and look at where that greed got netease
every company is greedy lol
i got ya
Even Digital Extreme ?
ok they are a rare unicorn in the space
Real
plus i kinda meant gatcha companies
Arrowhead sucks man.
They worked in reducing game to 20 GB yet is still too much of CPU focusing and so laggy
hoyo is the king of greed lol
Damn
our the wolf packs worth joining ?
hmmm thats the main thing
Is it worth coming back?
completely up to you they got rid of pinnacle energy
I wonder how NetEase will try put more stuff in Destiny Rising, since the teaser is referring we are going to space.
Yes Lotta weekly loot
thank you ill have a look for one
Best thing that happened to me.
Sucks that i will have to buy stuffs to make the Iron command ? I forgot the name
The thing you spent pinnacle energy to automatize your guardians do that mission
im a bit livid at the cost of artifacts going from 3-5
Yeah losing iron comma stunk
Damn....
how you get you main next to your name ?
im just going to refarm artifacts when 5 stars are dropable
Roles channel
cheers
Ok this entire stage is designed around Ning (and Jaren too by accident) weapon damage based IX abilities definitely hinders Estela.
So... Should I open MY lvl 90 Artifacts
now?... or when 5Star Drops are active?..
probably when 5 star drops are active
I really need to build my umeko and have put to much brain power into efrideet anyone got any maxed builds on her?
I know. I coulda beaten it if it weren’t for the captain and dreg 🫠
That at the end is just impossible
Probably when 4* or 5* unlock as base drops
Maybe Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN] can find an oob exploit or something. There is an oob I found but I didn’t get to test it
Usually don’t seek stuff like that but it’s ethical in this case as it is the only documented instance of an expanse stage being such an issue a different expanse was put in its place
I am going to try to farm some songs and try a furies build. I don’t have enough heavy ammo to sustain dps long enough, but I have crappy Song and BVD4 doesn’t seem to have enough hits to trigger the accidents I need I feel.
alr gonna spam tf out of strikes for meh sniper
That and find my controller
Heir>all. I did it with thunderlord but it doesn’t provide enough imo dmg is fast but it can’t go as long, so heir does more. Ignoring all of the first encounter mele and focusing on things that can shoot me was what I was doing last week and this week. They don’t follow u to capture point 2
EVERYONE are ALL limited to the same amount of WC
Always BEST to be Wise with your picking...
Yea that ammo issue is why I was thinking furies build with a heavy arc. Maybe use fury for first 2 stages to save on heavy ammo for third encounter and switching it around could work too.
Then I can use an arc primary and put on increased damage to shields.
yea either furies or heir apparent
Seeing how much crimson is carrying Efrideet and Jaren through expanses just tells me Gallows needs to be stronger against spread mods
is what we went with
A worthy adversary. Wonderful!
sick
finally
Hope they fix efri bugs 
???
General and mod reload dmg is not procing as it should 👀
ah
But even so Cloudstrike goes brrrr
ye got it cat 2/3 alr
Ive seen 60mil in 20s on shinka just cloudstrike without super
This but better
Sorry 15sec
I know but just to compare both cloudstrike and HC
20Mil more dmg less time
now the real grind begins
i got an engram so i just need one more to drop
then the dreaded photons
I have enough photons but I'm missing like 160 cores
I might wait until next week to farm them, only getting 2 per run feels awful
17hr should do
It's only ~4 hours but I don't feel like farming that much lol
Phase 4 should cut that by almost half
alr now to grind slowly
I wonder if they'll bring back GM campaigns
Offff someone wasn’t prepared
Goat
i maxed out my til eternal death first
hence why im broke now
Someone posted this 👀
yes, and i also stopped playing for 5 months
but gg to em, proud of em
They’re locked in… must be nice 
Some of the exotics are bugged ive heard 🥲
Yuh
No engrams?
Saving since ill be doing full clears
Fair fair
0 cloudstrikes fml
You’ll definitely get it
Did you try wardclif on ikora??
i used my exotic engram for thunderlord because cloudtrike and coil are the easiest to farm for with no comms, keep pushing you’ll get it
im waiting to get all copies to unlock the 2 cat bands
but with all nodes unlocked at 1 cat it's not good
but the 2 cat bands are damage increases so we'll see
Dang, if I only grind for a couple hours on the weekend can I stay caught up?
corndog the goat
New job = no play today
fug drising right now. Too much rng, not enough incentive, lack of balance. So many bugs we need an exterminator
new job = farming chaos to be competitive
You are a few months late
Chaos floors are like 10 seconds each 😭
can’t believe i’m seeing lucy converted to a hater
They removed weapons from the old choice engrams and I am salty over it
I have 1,000 of them
they didn’t, they are all split between the time they dropped, riviks two or whatever will have new weapons
He saved old engrams Pre rework
No my old ones that I used to upgrade a shotgun for Jaren are now missing the same weapons I was getting from them last week
i get what you’re saying now, that’s a rough one
FIRST IMAGE - 20 second dmg rota t2 efrideet with til eternal death (cat 3/3) and zuco'oclac (no ult), im only lvl 3/1 on my perks
SECOND IMAGE - 20 second dmg rota t2 efrideet with jezibaba lvl 3/0 on perks and cloudstrike (cat 2/3 & no ult)
this was done on a normal servitor instead of a shinka
tan 2, ai informant
tf u callin ai
chill out boss hog, were you not sending chat logs that didn’t exist the other day lol
Max TeD vs half max cloud/jezi
would you rather have 1 dollar or 1 billion dollars
Those are canon in another timeline. DR has its own
maxed cloudstrike even then is only best utilized in high end chaos or cordon that requires arc dmg
must be something along those lines lmao, gas lighting is crazy lmao
til eternal death at max cat absolutely wrecks jezibaba if u can hit your precision shots
For Efrideet's 3 and 4, are you looking for Weapon Enhancement / Arc Boost / Damage Bonus / Signature Boost? I'm using cloudstrike if build matters at all depending on weapons
bruv sent me chat logs i’ve sent to this discord i’ve never typed haha
Dont light your farts on fire, gas lights are dangerous
correct
0.4% better or something than Jezibaba
Which is like free 
blue angels
Sub 5 Ginunaga has to be impossible unless there's some tech. Best time I've been able to get is 6:07
Unlike TED which you need to pay for
it’s easily doable
Thanks, also 1 and 2 can be ring of abundance and conversion still right?
And the ones in the mail that they patched with no compensation are also now just worthless still. Bc they had this game so buggy that the mail would remove any good perks. Idk I’m sick of it. They already found info in the game files that hint that season 6 could be it anyways.
ye, but overall i wouldn't even switch over to cloudstrike over the mythic sniper
Proof please
What adept mods you got on?
proof, the fact people did it on contest in less than 5 wdym lmao
Obviously free Exotic Heavy always better than any other options
5/5 gg rolled zico is the winner unless u need cloudstrike for Burst scenario
come on bruh lol
Oh no. They only had 1 year of content made?
TED any good on Jaren?? 🧐
They stretched out the seasons by an extra month to stretch the cash grab? New P2W ascend system to suck whales dry before EoS? Never
Placeholder emote for s6 was found weeks ago. Which lines up with what everyone (including doom posters, but also professionals) have speculated would be announced after this season.
So S6 is the definitive content end?
Shame. Was fun ride
alr said this game is going eos eventually and not making it to the middle of next year
Of what they have made for now. 1st anni is still few months away
They changed Jaren and everything else. They quit making 4stars and started turning 4s into 5s
Game is in a good direction. No Pinnacle = No Casuals
Worst take i have seen so far
Minutes of daily grind replaced by hours for same crap. Love it.
Aside from that two random dudes that keep asking for PC ports
Haters gotta hate lmao
look, idc if this game is gonna die by next year or not
all i care about, is playing it and enjoying what we got now
Could save 3 days of pinnacle and then spend it in 20 minutes. Now 20 minutes dont get me crap
This dude knows big hairy balls… see
I cant devote my life to grind on a mobile game
if anyone cares too much bout this troglodyte goomba muppet game, then unfortunately you need to get off the sticks and back to a 9-5 and buy yourself something else cause tf are u doing here complaining over a netease mobile game talkin bout balance this balance that nerf this nerf that bring this bring that
So don’t lmao
EoS is nearing and you will like it no matter how u feel
Is like PE was better…
so until we reach eos...
any umekos wanna dance for me on a table?
I am allowed feedback on the game I played since launch. If you dont like it then I am sorry my opinion harms you 🙏
bruh if game is eos why don’t you as well, so tired of seeing bums talking bout eos, if you are so worried about the game being done please leave and you won’t be missed
Honestly the game was fine before Pinnacle removal. Just needed 1 mode for being able to use old characters and another mode with ramping % modifiers.
“i love this game but want it to fail” looking ahh so annoying g
Been saying that since S2
With how many skins the new char has. How unfinished major parts of the game are (voice lines), and the lack of any advertisement, or even getting streamers involved in the new raid. Yeah probably s5 announcement was the plan without a miracle turnaround. It made 300k last month. They fulfilled their end of the roadmap, and are not legally obligated to continue. (Not what I wanted btw, just stating what I can see, and know, that is adding to my frustration lately.)
S4 was a massive rework compared to game initially invested in
BREAKING: Num Num Nematode yells out the obvious when literally all netease needed to do was add a single mode to fix the entire game
Lmao harms… Feedback is good but that aint feedback you just said you don’t wanna grind. So don’t just play 10 min and ggs
removing pin energy was just a nag to bring 40% of what was already lost back
I see
sad human used bold text to try and prove a point, no one cares about what you have to say discord demon
and let me reiterate to you my guy
the entire seasonal system is just a rewritten acclaim system
you're regrinding what you already had permanently
i’m not your guy, don’t chat to me like we are homies please lol
and now it's locked behind seasonal content
boo who

c'mon bestie y u always so mean
If you read above it gives you context 🤫
Ngl getting triggered over DR is crazy
you did the same on d2 and enjoyed it
^
Keep them from rioting while I shower pls
everyone here did and the only reason they're here now is because of a dying company
Literally just asking for proof, not for you to demonstrate. Just trying to learn, what kind of sequence of events needs to happen to get the time consistent with randoms.
Not sure why you're getting uppity about it.
if bungie wasn't such a failure this game wouldn't even exist
for sure, trigged over people complaining constantly, if you don’t enjoy the game stop playing it’s simple
this game was made over bungie's corpse
Im opening the cells and going to bed
Yupp… definitely! We on the same page
Without us 
All of us need to shower and touch grass atp
u right


i like the game, i’ve never seen a group of people talk so much ish about a game dying than destiny, it’s been almost 15 years, please move on instead of being upset
Nah, it still would. This game gave D2 a small resurgence during S2-S3
You've never been on a gacha game discord
FACTS
We had a suck raid like an amzing raid! Mobile game btw… let that sink in
it's a netease game, what do u expect the community to be
W
They dont know netease, it sunsetted 2 games last year within 3 months of launch
people want d rising to be a damn destiny 3, and it’s not, just cause you can play on computer it don’t mean it needs updates and game play like it’s a AAA game lmao
You mean its a Destiny game, what do you expect the community to be 🙂
it's a bungie game, when is the layoff update dropping
Average phone totally handles new No Pinnacle, phones enjoy hours of grind every day
It's not a bungie game though in any meaningful way
well yeah of course
corndog you my boy, we are on the same page lol
im just waiting for the layoffs to drop in
just never understood why destiny as a whole had so many people talk about eos and complaining, it’s every update/dlc all destiny players do is cry and complain it’s just wild to me
Bots
it's D A the brainrot folks
we are dead ahh rn lmaoooo
I been waiting since launch for good end game content. Not a massive rework making me rebuild just to play same crap. Where is my end game, they took cal ops instead of adding condor and cal ops both
Wrong chat
literally what xiuz said bots
😅😅
I think a some people see potential and are frustrated by a decade of missteps
i like you as a person bro, just the constant negativity as a community makes me wonder why people stick around, easier to walk away then stick around and be upset
Anyone want to farm for me 😅
They can’t lmao… they gotta cry somewhere
i stick around because I like seeing THATDONFC pop; into game chat and harrass me for playing chaos 24/7 even though they do the exact same thing
i am as well but it solves nothing, we grind chaos, we shut up and enjoy it lmao, just like the mines on d2
1 update to rule them all, 1 update to bind them, 1 update to bring them all, back and then remind them
the life of the first descendant
You can’t get back what you’ve lost 😅
Hopium that turns into copium that turns into crashout back to hopium. Vicious cycle
24/7 chaos + public even and playing around with all char now as we can upgrade em all… that f cool
Still a lying liar I see
you want 500 power? you must quit your job! most people were mad about pinny, all we needed was double pinnacle energy and the game was fine, now we gotta grind 400 legendary campaigns to upgrade a exotic
so u don't play chaos 24/7??????
Laying layer*
I see two ways about it, if you’re having fun then have fun. If you’re not then don’t.
I found proof that NA's fastest did not get sub 5 on ginunga during contest. lol
The hunt continues.

