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[dark gulch]

ahhh i can hear you ofc 🙂‍↕️ my children are very loud when i attempt a game aha.

[obtuse chasm]

Tried it and dropped it immediately

[dusty spire]

No gacha has me playing like this to this date

[obtuse chasm]

lol real I don’t mind the background noise

[dark gulch]

whats wrong with mobile?? I use my fingaz

[dusty spire]

And for that imo we are playing the best gacha game on the market imo

On a real what gacha game is giving us this level of gameplay

[rotund flame]

The number of dogs,baby's and smoke detectors i hear is way too high lol

[obtuse chasm]

I play mobile but with controller so it runs super smooth on my phone

[dark gulch]

SMOKE detectors oml

[obtuse chasm]

No input delay whatsoever

[dusty spire]

Yup it got 30 mins and I swear who ever I. This discord spoke that utter nonsense you wasted my time

I don’t even think division is mid

[dark gulch]

tbh pc is probably best because nothing will be as accurate as a mouse, but i do have a controller

[dusty spire]

You cannot even mechanically compare division to destiny rising

It felt like some old school PlayStation statergy game

With division in mind lol

[dark gulch]

Division is completely different. The og was amazing

[dusty spire]

The original is great

[stark forge]

both new division and siege mobile are dry, wth is ubi doing here

[dusty spire]

But the mobile version is dead

[obtuse chasm]

Dr for all the hate it gets is a good game if not one of the best mobile games, it being a gacha is what gives it its bad rep. Gacha players are delirious and judgmental of anything that’s not the slop they’re used to

[dark gulch]

my friend made a division song 10 years ago haha. shout out to them

[dusty spire]

Destiny rising has at least some comparison to its elder

Division mobile feels like a clumpy division game

[obtuse chasm]

Same thing they’ve been doing, releasing copy and paste games

[dusty spire]

Factssss

[cursive depot]

Nah fr drising making raids that I didn’t expect for a mobile

[obtuse chasm]

Ubisoft has never been a good company

[cursive depot]

Kinda wild

[dusty spire]

Factsss I can’t believe the level of how good this is

[dusty spire]

Factssssssssss

[stark forge]

but fr both plays like cheap knockoff of the original that some devs throw on the store

[cursive depot]

Actually up there with some D2 raids for me, at least this current one

[obtuse chasm]

The fact that people are actually struggling with it should speak volumes, Dr is doing good tbh

[dusty spire]

Net ease I have to give props to with this one

I’ve been into gacha games for a while like many of you, and come onnnnnn this is hitting the spots

Yes we may have thing here and there that we want tweaked

[obtuse chasm]

I would rather trust a small company mobile game over a bigger company, due to the fact that most games on the market for mobile are solely just cash grabs. Bigger company’s are just trying to pocket money where they can

[dusty spire]

But if this went eos it would be hard for another company to grab me

I’d probably quit gacha until something else like this pops up

And I have a feeling net ease knows what gem they have

[obtuse chasm]

Pump out slop but title it with a popular mainstream game and boom, instant revenue on release

Then stop updating and drop it

[dusty spire]

That’s why they ain’t quick to eos this game

[dusty spire]

The ip for this is to big to just cash grab imo

[obtuse chasm]

Honestly with the changes they made they got at least 2k from me alone this update I’m sure other whales have been dropping bags as well

[dusty spire]

Reputation damage from destiny would be huge

[obtuse chasm]

I’m talking about division fam

[dusty spire]

Now here I agree

It’s ubi noticed what net ease is has

And tried the same nestoglic move

Problem is they ain’t as good as copying as the netease gang

[obtuse chasm]

Netease has just been on top of the mobile scene for a long time there’s no beating them in all reality

[dusty spire]

I’m not gonna lie I’m sorta swinging to neteas fan simply because they have brought marvel rivals and destiny to the scene

[dusty spire]

I’ve been invested since 2018

[obtuse chasm]

I hate them, but I won’t lie and say they’re not a successful company for a reason, they’re good at what they do

[past flame]

[obtuse chasm]

They’ve had a lot more success compared to failure

[dusty spire]

Love the company style even though recently we have massive withdraws on revenues because w are transitioning

But owning a bit of netease really gave me insite into the mobile market

However I’m very cautious at the moment as I think gacha gaming in general is having a general hit across the market

[naive ingot]

[dusty spire]

Basically I think we have seen a massive uptake in gamers who are joining the collectors market

And rather than buy access to licences

Gamers are buying physical items

Grate it that like gacha

[bitter estuary]

d:r feels meh

[dusty spire]

So I’m nervous about gacha gaming in the near future

[bitter estuary]

i think

[dusty spire]

I think the model is starting to weaken

[twilit thistle]

🤔 not bad

[dusty spire]

Hence why so many games are getting pumped out quicker

Gacha is really losing its appeal

[bitter estuary]

the thing about d:r is that yeah you grind to collect a lot of units to then be more flexible in raids, but i just feel like rewards this time around feels unrewarding

[bitter estuary]

revenue started to dip circa 2024

[dusty spire]

We are learning models it’s easier to navigate f2p

[dusty spire]

Yeah I generally feel something is coming to and end around gacha

[obtuse chasm]

How so? Im not against what you’re saying but what about the rewards don’t seem rewarding in comparison to maybe older raids or content in general

[dusty spire]

Maybe not gacha but the current model

It’s old and I feel like it’s starting to fail

[fiery musk]

More of a Gaming Collapse in general is coming, I think.

No monetary model is working right now.

[dusty spire]

Systemic across the board, we are producing way to much content to fast because of the competition in the economy

And it’s quite worrying

[twilit thistle]

The destiny rising model cant seem to decide what model it is.

[dusty spire]

As I think this is exponential in speed

[obtuse chasm]

All gamers do is hate now tho, you can’t even tease a game or bring it up without 500k people saying its a clone or its horrible before we even get 1 trailer of said game

[dusty spire]

Gaming has changed

It become greed and away from the art

Making a game is like art

Fresh canvas you make an experience

[fiery musk]

Part of it. The video Aztecross recently reacted to covers a lot of the main points.

[dusty spire]

Now we play copy and pastes

[dusty spire]

I find myself looking forward to more solo story driven games and couch comp than multiplayer now days

Hence why I play gacha

[fiery musk]

Game companies want to force an always-online model in order to justify preventing resales.

[dusty spire]

You own nothing and be happy right

We should stop buying into it and see them force a change

[fiery musk]

This means that they have to keep producing content at a rapid pace to justify it.

[twilit thistle]

Oh there are numerous models that work. Destiny rising fails because it wants to be too greedy in some areas, and not greedy enough in others. At the end of the day, players shouldn't need to be taking quantum mechanics to be able to play the game.

[fiery musk]

The first change we will and have been seeing is mass layoffs in the game dev sector.

[dusty spire]

Hence the cut backs in jobs and leaning more towards ai……

[dusty spire]

Same wave, I like you and a pleasure to meet you here btw

[dusty spire]

Just like netease in the most recent quarters

[fiery musk]

Careful, liking me is an unpopular choice.

[dusty spire]

I like unpopular choices

I get worried when I see only herd mentality

Black sheep’s are necessary

Otherwise no balance

[twilit thistle]

I've never found a game that actually wants you to grind, but offers so little speedup to do that. Those kinds of microtransactions are essentially missing from the game. Its just whale bait.

[hard forge]

Is this a good artifact set to be running on efrideet? I’m using crimson and 40k

I have another artifact set also but been using this because they are fully refracted rn

[fiery musk]

All I know for sure is not Ring of Conversion. Lol

[bitter estuary]

idk if onslaught s1 was the same, crota had first clear rewards atleast which was really nice because it was normally harder to get (i forgot bridge enc but it did give some)

like im sorry why is it not a choice engram atleast

ig 15 lattices is really nice because the cost of it will go up the more you craft so idk

[barren phoenix]

How do I do the first raid? I been stuck

[bitter estuary]

you read.

[hoary shale]

any chance someone needs two more for raid first enc?

[vast arch]

People in LFG having conversations in 4 different channels at the same time trying to get groups together

[harsh berry]

Schizo Rising

[rain condor]

Desperation?

[vast arch]

I made a new channel specifically for this event and people still using LFG other for great hunt

[hoary shale]

What channel?

[sullen depot]

its right there brotha

[rain condor]

Helhest meta continues

[vast arch]

#lfg-great-hunt

[thorny frost]

So it didn’t automatically get added for everyone it looks like. I have the other lfg but not great hunt. (Not that I was looking for it before now)

[harsh berry]

Are the seasonal raid objectives tied to contest specifically or the encounters in general

[finite gazelle]

How are the mechanics

[sullen depot]

encounters in general typically

[finite gazelle]

Are they too esoteric for matchmade

I'm not trying to do contest I just want cloudstrike

[harsh berry]

I would say so. Its doable but honestly it probably needs comms

[signal spade]

now this, is poggers

[vast arch]

It was the crota LFG but I renamed it since crota is gone for now

[harsh berry]

But i peaked at encounter 2 so i cant fully speak on it

Its easyish first encounter just need the right team, i exclusively played randoms

[thorny frost]

If just going for cloudstrike give it a little bit of time. The difficulty will lower after leaderboard rush and be easier with randoms

[vast arch]

Did you guys finish 5th N.A.?

[thorny frost]

Aaa, maybe that is why o didn’t have it. I doubt I hid crota but I definitely didn’t add it to my list

[harsh berry]

Its free game plus reset rewards will be back

[finite gazelle]

Which enc is cloudstrike in

[thorny frost]

I am guessing it will be like other raids where we have a hard mode still with lowered difficulty compared to Rush, and then a normal mode for easier farming.

Hard mode looks like it would last a week (at least for first clear rewards)

[signal spade]

4th i think

we beat the 5th place team by like 20 seconds was pretty lit

lots of weird bugs though 2nd boss rubberbanding everywhere was not poggers

[thorny frost]

I was expecting a lot more speed up items available, and lower rates when they announced no pinnacle. I agree they don’t seem to know which model they are monetizing for, not that they could lower rates now without major back lash (and I don’t want rates lowered)

[bleak pelican]

finally home

now to find a fireteam to run it with

[azure star]

Ik how to do first encounter

[bleak pelican]

noice, i was busy all day since launch so i got 0 encounter knowledge unfortunately

[azure star]

teaching it is pain bro

[finite gazelle]

Should I grab any of these ning's at t3 the rest are t1

Could also just wait for ikora to show up here she's at t1

[bleak pelican]

raid seems to be pretty wild much to that i was at work for 11 hours and only 9 teams cleared it so far

[subtle anchor]

so what are the other server looking like. only two teams on Eu server finished

[bleak pelican]

also gg @cursive depot on your clear, proud of u bro

[subtle anchor]

i havent seen anyother team beat it on EU server

[vast arch]

Congrats! I know that wasn’t easy

[bleak pelican]

tides is aTides correct?

[signal spade]

tyty it was fun they did a good job

[vast arch]

8 clears last time I checked

[bleak pelican]

9 now

[subtle anchor]

lmao on eu still 2

[bleak pelican]

2 on eu jeez

[subtle anchor]

i like the mechanics

but didnt beat 2nd yet

1st was fun though

[azure star]

I cant find anyone smart enough to do it with

[subtle anchor]

but i need to sleep 🤣😅

[bleak pelican]

3x efrideet 2x estela and a helhest in 3rd place kinda nuts

[azure star]

Keeps dying in mirage

[bleak pelican]

allow me to educate myself with the mechanics

and i can see whether or not I'd like to run it on contest

[azure star]

Ik bro

Equilibrium on day 1 had me basically solo it

[subtle anchor]

itd goodnwith a good coordinated team. specially 2nd on contest

i was popping the biss critspots solo

but its such a time contraint encountr

[bleak pelican]

i got 2 days off so i could either do it now or wait till the 6th

[subtle anchor]

we skipped a lot

[bleak pelican]

ye i heard there was a crit spot issue apparently

[subtle anchor]

we only stunned boss 1 time

[bleak pelican]

even a "nerf" came in that barely did anything to help

[azure star]

Its worth at least doing the first encounter

[thorny frost]

This raid makes my comment 2 days ago feel very justified XD

[bleak pelican]

i guess i can learn first

did u write the mechs down or know em by heart

[neon pebble]

Raids are fun but take alot of coordination = time eater

[azure star]

Ik them

At least on first

[bleak pelican]

LMFAO

so chat, netease kinda goofy

they technically never "removed" pinnacle energy

so in the raid u can get this visual, pretty much the pinnacle energy is 1 million for everyone and resets each day

[thorny frost]

O yea they just raised it to a cap that unless a stupid way to burn it comes up makes it impossible to reach

[bleak pelican]

now i wonder what would happen if anyone can reach 0 pinnacle energy

[azure star]

Allat for only 60 spoils of conquest a week🥀

[bleak pelican]

[azure star]

Hate how they removed power leaderboards

I was #41 on tan and #90 on wolf

[inland axle]

Does anyone know what 3rd encounter great hunt what symbol for what platform

[rotund flame]

To be fair it was kinda set up wrong. Just transfer your artifacts and weapons and bamn instantly on the leader boards lol

[azure star]

true

And then they slowed my build crafting down to a snail with the artifact rework

[cursive depot]

Huh opposite for me

[obtuse chasm]

Bruhhhhh this raid is so simplleee why can people not get with it 😭 it’s mainly just horrible builds and lack of common sense

[azure star]

Fr

[obtuse chasm]

I’m insta booting anyone under 86k from now on lol

[bleak pelican]

oops, i uploaded it in this channel i misclicked the wrong channel lmao

[azure star]

What encounter?

[rotund flame]

True about the builds. Don't know how I'm constantly getting around 30% damage with my mid artifacts lol

[neon pebble]

Whoya playing?

[obtuse chasm]

Literally the easiest one (1st) I slept in and missed my team doing it so now I’m stuck with randoms and holy I’m going to jump I swear

[bleak pelican]

For folks wanting to know the difference between Till Eternal Death vs Jezibaba

[scarlet widget]

Was there just an update recently?

[subtle anchor]

i was umeko on like 63k i was doing fine butni mean i know rhe mechanics and solo stuns on 2nd boss lmao plus i debuffed everything.

[rotund flame]

Spear girl

[amber iris]

Did u complete it ?

[vast arch]

Literally just don’t die and you win

[azure star]

I swear everyone is clueless on that one

[obtuse chasm]

Exactllyyy

[bleak pelican]

do me im only 82k chief carry me mom

[obtuse chasm]

No because my entire team ties before we even get past a single gate

[signal spade]

the boss health needs to hit 0 before yours

[bleak pelican]

give me an efrideet skin and i'll do it

[subtle anchor]

🤣😂🤣😂

[obtuse chasm]

Got one team that actually got to the final encounter then someone’s phone died and we all split

[neon pebble]

Didnt know she was good like that 🔥

[bleak pelican]

no shot

[rotund flame]

From what i seen , people ignore mobs and let them increase in number. That's what seems to kill a lot of randoms

[obtuse chasm]

Final encounter on first phase I mean

[subtle anchor]

u na or eu

[bleak pelican]

@signal spade

[obtuse chasm]

You really don’t need to kill anything unless it’s around elite tho

[twilit thistle]

Oh they could lower them, especially considering the cost of a t6 a5 is 1/300th of what they made last month. It might as well be cosmetics. You can buy everything, but at the end of the day it doesn't actually help with anything. I doubt ill even get to try the raid. Just like crota, the one before, and calamity ops/cordon.

[vast arch]

Especially in 2nd they can stack like crazy

[azure star]

First enc is just
Roles:
Circle carrier
Teleporter
Passers

How to fail:
Teleporter dies in mirage
Running out of time wipes
Staying in circle not as carrier kills

[signal spade]

im being stalked

[obtuse chasm]

Na

[thorny frost]

About a week ago. Season 4 came out and changed a bit

[obtuse chasm]

That right side is doom, I just skip through middle and ignore them there because of it lol

[bleak pelican]

if i catch anyone in here talkin in my casual chat in game, we finna have a problem

[subtle anchor]

trust umeko in 2nd encounter

[rotund flame]

I made it there once and we all died because we never gotten teleported before. Was kinda sad because we did it first try and everyone just left after that 😭

[vast arch]

I’m gonna log in to the game just to participate in this chat

[azure star]

Ig bro is THE Tan-2

[neon pebble]

I like when the aura guy jumps into impact shinka bubble and wipes team 🤣

[bleak pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-conspiracy-theory-no-proof-no-evidence-investigator-gif-5768725204343957291

[thorny frost]

“ I heard you like DOT”

[vast arch]

How about nobody jumps in except for jaren

[bleak pelican]

I asked the devs for the name, they told me I was already Tan-2 in real life

[subtle anchor]

but im getting older i cant so 24/ours day 1 anymore i gotta sleep now lime a grandpa

[neon pebble]

No heals is worst part about the aura

[bleak pelican]

just get aura like neptune

neptune rains diamonds bro the aura is immaculate

[neon pebble]

Yeah that makes too much sense

[vast arch]

I thought the aura heals your team

[bleak pelican]

^

[rotund flame]

Is that for the second and third part of the raid?

[vast arch]

2nd

[thorny frost]

The aura hurts in all three parts it looks like (I don’t have personal experience just watched some streams today).

[neon pebble]

I drip crota, even Estella wants a piece

[rotund flame]

Love when the aura person runs into his teammates and unknowingly gets them killed in the first part lol

[bleak pelican]

sorry bro my aura too immaculate

[neon pebble]

But you got 0 damsels i have atleast 1

[bleak pelican]

u have 0 maidens

[signal spade]

why is the ghost for this raid not unique

say sike right now

[vast arch]

some

[rotund flame]

I think it's a bug. Probably a temporary placement?

[vast arch]

Sike

[true basin]

So hows the raid?

[bleak pelican]

alr gonna hop on another game till monday

[signal spade]

i hope so if i get bright dust as a reward im going to scream

[thorny frost]

That is one of the biggest let down for rewards this raid. An Ahamkara based ghost would of been sweet

[rotund flame]

Glimmer take it or leave it

[neon pebble]

Where my ahamkara skins

Did we get weapon decals atleast?

[thorny frost]

Estela needs one, ignore she just got a crota one… she deserves an Ahamkara one

[remote grove]

Feels over-tuned on second encounter

[rotund flame]

Strangely enough the new character got released with no skins lol

[stark forge]

maybe the cn server didnt have it in the issaki raid

[true basin]

Yea I saw they overshot on the difficulty on the weak points

I haven't jumped in yet.

[neon pebble]

Its fun

[late thistle]

guys how many clears in NA? cuz emea only 2teams

[remote grove]

Even just the adds.. hit too hard and way to many to manage along with other mechanics

[thorny frost]

Yea I saw that, wondering if it will be released later… maybe they plan to take a page from their Jaren guns

[vast arch]

9

[bitter estuary]

emea/apac dead ig

[cobalt fjord]

my team went to sleep . we were close to finish the last enc

[remote grove]

9 clears on NA after 12 hr is crazy lol

[cobalt fjord]

tbh is not that hard

[bleak pelican]

watched a full vid on all of it. ngl, the raid is pretty simple mechanically, but execution is morally the main issue

[cobalt fjord]

the sec enc was bug if u didnt restart the game u will be in the bug forever

[remote grove]

Surely lol

[bitter estuary]

how much are ppl playing actually

[vast arch]

@obtuse chasm lmk if you want to try to get a decent team for a full clear soon

[nova talon]

Boa noite 🌃 🌃

1 Vaga Raid = 1° Encontro, temos conhecimento da mecânica, ensinamentos tranquilamente

[late thistle]

i mean, it cant be that dead to only have 2 teams who cleared, idk

[bitter estuary]

like how much viewers did great hunt get compared to crota

[neon pebble]

Erm ahem #lfg-great-hunt

[twilit thistle]

🗑️

[signal spade]

tbf crota normal mode had thousands of clears after the bug but only like 100 before ppl figured out the bug

and people knew how to do crota already

[hoary agate]

Aww man 10th NA.

[vast arch]

Shhhh

[bitter estuary]

still bomb

[vast arch]

Ayyy 10th is still good!

[neon pebble]

They have a twitch button that takes you to all the streamers on great hunt. Was surprisingly alot of them

[vast arch]

Congrats

[bitter estuary]

compared to crota

[remote grove]

I still think second encounter great hunt is harder than deathsinger atp

[cobalt fjord]

i miss the old days and the race for the first raid

[signal spade]

2nd encounter is harder than 3rd great hunt

[neon pebble]

I gotta get my full 3 in with same team

[signal spade]

3rd is just like kinda you need to learn it then its gg

[cobalt fjord]

they fix the bug so i think more people to finish it

[bitter estuary]

1/4 compared to crota :/

crota got 6.6k peak

its 1.5k peak for this raid

[cobalt fjord]

nah the first raid was the peak

[neon pebble]

Yeah we EoS after 1st anni

[twilit thistle]

This reflects the statistics 📊

[bitter estuary]

crota, not eclipse

[rocky nebula]

why is 2nd encounter so cringe man

[bitter estuary]

cant see statistics for youtube

[twilit thistle]

Prolly not wrong after seeing that today.

[craggy oyster]

Is it easier than 2nd? lol

[bitter estuary]

its the ppl not the mechanics???

[neon pebble]

Yall want the real reason why? @bitter estuary @twilit thistle

[signal spade]

3rds def easier than 2nd

[stark forge]

its the cabal armor

[signal spade]

i guess if you 1 phase 2nd its easy but 2nd gets crazy second rotation

[bitter estuary]

ah yeah no cabal armor counter mods allowed

https://tenor.com/view/bombastic-side-eye-gif-10871198272108326257

netease might eos the game before ananta anyways idk

[stark forge]

arby helhest is tremendous help to break shield fast

[twilit thistle]

Why eos? That would be bc they are making like $300k a month

[bitter estuary]

balls ok

im gonna play darkzone idk, im having fun in division

[twilit thistle]

Yes. Balls.

[neon pebble]

90% of game quit. The ones who quit were majority the whales and sweats. The ones who stayed are mostly f2p and casual. That being said, casuals dont give a crap about race raid and alot of the players are waiting on "normal" mode to release after the weekend. Our sweaty competitor playerbase is gone, now we rockin with casuals who dont spend hours playing like that on easter weekend 🤣 it comes down to a shift in playerbase priority and not providing proper content for them @twilit thistle

[bitter estuary]

if the next characters has balls as summons then it'd make 10m in profits surely

[bitter estuary]

ppl only did crota for the nostalgia

that being said it felt like nostalgia bait because raid was buggy and wack

[weary heart]

Got lucky on my second attempt at the new and got the new lmg at the end. 49k power btw. Got lucky with a random fire team

[neon pebble]

I found oobs in 1st enc for ahamkara 🤫

[bitter estuary]

no person would go that extent to get these crappy rewards and it shows

[stark forge]

whopping 15 lattice for 1 1/2 upgrades

[bitter estuary]

1st enc so easy if anyone throws then it's their problem

[twilit thistle]

Think it was stupid tho to do another contest like this ngl. It’s a mobile game, so like 90% of the player base is gonna get mad bc they can’t use a mic.

[bitter estuary]

its only 30% of an exotic

yes, you need 50 of em to max it out

[neon pebble]

In game voice chat and phones have built in mics...

[stark forge]

i thought its like 70 to max 5 star maybe im wrong

[neon pebble]

This say "normal" the only thing you get for race raid clear is the title thing at top that says "limited time"

[bitter estuary]

nvm its 60, still insane

1/4 of a maxed exotic byeee

[twilit thistle]

Who doesn’t want to hear 5 mics echoing the same thing 😭

[neon pebble]

8d so must be 1 week of normal raid after the weekend

[neon pebble]

Their is built in suppression

[remote grove]

Im game voice is aids

[stark forge]

thats 100+ leggy campaign ok bye 💀

[bitter estuary]

lol they're just desperate then

[azure star]

They need to add more adept difficulties

[bitter estuary]

and it keeps increasing and does NOT reset we love netease

[bleak pelican]

HUH

[neon pebble]

This why I say, the reason views and streamers are lower is because the playerbase we have left doesnt like to sweat. They dont give 2 balls about leaderboards. They are waiting for Normal mode.

[bleak pelican]

how much does it increase by per

[bitter estuary]

that will NOT fix the game

no pinnacle essentially made the gap between dedicated players and casuals much wider than before

[stark forge]

in a month ppl gonna complain again endgame is spamming lc and chaos all day

[neon pebble]

No pinnacle = dead game

[bitter estuary]

mandatory fomo, usual gacha slop nothing new

[neon pebble]

Nobody tryin to grind a mobile

[bleak pelican]

when it reaches 300 per ima mald

[bitter estuary]

i remember honkai impact 3rd tried a raid, only 1% of the fanbase did it iirc

[azure star]

I shoulda clarified what I meant to say

Higher adept difficulties give more rewards, they need to up those between difficulties and reward more for pushing yourself to your limit

[bitter estuary]

said raid was a 3 man strike, not even that long

[bitter estuary]

still wont fix the core issues on rng

[azure star]

True

[bitter estuary]

people who are dedicated enough will get through endgame content easier

[neon pebble]

Nope, then players cry they can't beat it and only whales can. They say it's p2w when they have skill issues

[azure star]

Fish method got patched

[twilit thistle]

You don’t like your 2% increase for an exotic artifact that isn’t in your wishlist? +1 essence?

[stark forge]

and its quite weird that exotic materials like cluster and exo core we can farm endless but mythic resources like lumenite are limited with a hardcap weekly through shop

[azure star]

No I need it to appear in my inventory when I move a single step

Praxic blade when?

[obtuse chasm]

I get off in 3 hours but as soon as I do I’m gunna be at it all night, I’ll lyk if you’re still on, if not… pray for my sanity before you go to bed

[twilit thistle]

The difficulty is pathetic. It’s more efficient to do the easier chaos. Theres like no benefit to grinding that stuff out on adept bc it’s all 1 chest. Thats just not how probability works, if you do more than 3 stages 😂

[bleak pelican]

if it was 2x more resources i'd do it

[bitter estuary]

its praying rngesus blesses you and somehow a rare drone appears in frontlines

[stark forge]

the chaos boss stages always drag the grind time longer unless its spike shell

[finite gazelle]

Glimmer is lowkey a huge bottleneck for me rn

I don't think I'll even be able to upgrade cloudstrike much because refinement eats so much glimmer for no reason in particular

[stark forge]

who will farm 100 mod packs a month in synthesis i wonder

[twilit thistle]

The non adept ones are ez if you just build it right. Most of the time is spent capturing zones, but the enemies are so weak it’s less fatigue

[stark forge]

yeah the other difficulty are fast while the boss stages in adept has mechanics and phases that slows the pace down a bit

[azure star]

Lowk glad guang guang aint working on this game

[twilit thistle]

I was just using Estella and walking to the portal on the lowest difficulty. I don’t think they planed this out properly 😂

[white yew]

im so tired after that raid

im glad i got 5th

[bitter estuary]

Nice

[modest tiger]

We got Unlucky #13 😂

Hard raid for sure

[vast sky]

Lets gooo

Took way longer than should have realistically we couldve cleared an hour and a half ago but we were taking breaks

[neon pebble]

Get it bro!!

[vast sky]

Its not that bad actually

Damage is really manageable boss wise

[old current]

I'm more concerned about the major enemies

They really can't do much with boss health anyways since everyone's damage is basically the same

[vast sky]

Oh theyre awful

The second encounter is way harder than the last btw

Second encounter would be a final boss encounter in most raids

[old current]

Do u remember gauntlet onslaught in the beta

[vast sky]

I do

It was thicker than celebration mode

[old current]

Where nobody could clear day 1 and how all the enemies needed 6 people teamshotting

[vast sky]

Yeah thats about on par

The difference is powercreep

Also gallows is unusable on final boss

[old current]

Went from doable 4 phase day 1 to easy 1 phase day 2

[modest tiger]

If ppl don’t know what to target ur not clearing

So many one shot mechanics

[vast sky]

Yeah target focus is huge

And EVERYONE needs to know every role

[exotic sinew]

What was second encounter team. We just don’t have enough aoe sometimes

[vast sky]

We had 1 efrideets 1 helhest and 1 garen and 3 estellas

A lot of people are doing triple garen and triple estella though or even 4 estellas

We wouldve done 2 helhest no efrideet but one didnt have arbi

[bitter estuary]

you balls

we are gilding the balls

[tight talon]

[bitter estuary]

ok

[tight talon]

The which balls?

also Lynsi quit

So its just me now

[obtuse chasm]

Idk if anyone has seen this guy before but if you have be careful he’s a little sus*

[rain plinth]

A little sis

[last matrix]

ive seen him a couple of times

[neon pebble]

What a dork @vast arch

[obtuse chasm]

I meant to put sus 😭

[rain plinth]

Suuuuuuuure you did

[vast arch]

That’s not me 😭

[drifting glacier]

If anyone needs one I got to halfway thru second raid dm me

[vast arch]

Did you have a team for today?

[grave kiln]

My team ran 2 HH, 3 Estela, 1 jdub

We tried to make sure to always have a helhest on stunning duty

[drifting glacier]

@twilit thistle yes

[twilit thistle]

No I haven’t had a team ever. Whichever pack gets me thru tomorrow is the pack i will be joining 💀

[twilit thistle]

This ain’t lfg

[bitter estuary]

balls

wtf

[molten pulsar]

Isn't there supposed to be a new story quest after the Great Hunt?

[obtuse chasm]

Uhhhh I never heard anything about it

But would be interesting seeing as the new story was lackluster

[molten pulsar]

Named Depth?

[sharp talon]

we redid everything with a new guy cuz he quit on last encounter and it didnt count lol

[obtuse chasm]

Hm I’m remembering a vivid memory now (I have no idea)

[obtuse chasm]

No way 😭

[pulsar anvil]

So we cleared, #4 EU and it didnt count lmfao

[obtuse chasm]

Yall are on #4 😭 NA got 9 clears already

[pulsar anvil]

tbf it's like dead hours on eu rn

[bitter estuary]

id personally flip the table and crashout atp

[obtuse chasm]

Screw the table, I’m burning it all down atp

[bleak pelican]

see

i told u to be careful now u are marked by the bepisman

[molten pulsar]

When does non-contest get released tho? I worry Wolf is gonna somehow feel underpowered.

[stable cosmos]

Should be when leaderboard rush ends no?

[twilit thistle]

[molten pulsar]

Odd thing is... It was immediate with Crota.

Or maybe the next day, idk...

[bitter estuary]

you balls

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/drink-pepsi-drink-pepsi-pepsiman-pepsiman-drink-gif-25976386

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-on-gif-17579490351437540271

[sharp talon]

😭

[bitter estuary]

need a 6th?

dead game

[zinc surge]

needs another nerf

[bitter estuary]

ok

surely that’d make 90% of the explayerbase come back

[slender zodiac]

the boss tp'ing around in the 2nd encounter dps phase kinda sucks

[neat valley]

The boss is glitchy af

On second map

[sullen depot]

@vast arch 👀 spotted again

[vast arch]

bro y'all are some stalkers fr

[neat valley]

If you have the extra damage rounds in borealis, it one taps the boss weak spot on 2nd map

I always see don afk in haven

[slender zodiac]

i mean my mythic sniper one taps on efrideet

[neat valley]

The weak spot as well ?

[neon pebble]

?

[slender zodiac]

ya

[bleak pelican]

bro how

[neat valley]

Which mythic sniper

[bleak pelican]

i see u in town 24/7 u never log off

[slender zodiac]

the new solar one with barb and horror

[bleak pelican]

you're the literal street light guardian

[vast arch]

I'm just tying to get a team together to clear great hunt

lmao

[neon pebble]

Lol suuure

[neat valley]

First encounter is the easiest , second will be hard if your team struggles with symbols and orb carrying lol @vast arch

[slender zodiac]

just do the orb tech lmao

[vast arch]

I know we got stuck on second and lost 2 people to work and sleep lol

[neat valley]

Which is

[harsh berry]

We've already got discords opened up by particular full-time casual chat yappers. No surprise

[neon pebble]

Throw straight to goal

[slender zodiac]

pretty much

[bitter estuary]

so real i cant even see you when i type in your ign in emea/apac 💜

[neat valley]

Yeah people somehow still miss

[modest tiger]

When you play jaren killl everything on the map and ppl still can’t communicate to throw a ball

[slender zodiac]

2nd enctouner actually isn't that bad i just need to find a team that can meet the dps threshold

[modest tiger]

And u have the entire vod

[neon pebble]

We need 1

[slender zodiac]

id be down to fire it back up and try a little

[neon pebble]

@tepid pelican

[bleak pelican]

@vast arch the duality of a community

[vast arch]

is TFD dead?

[bleak pelican]

actually yes lmfao

[slender zodiac]

yes but no

[bleak pelican]

nexon themselves the game has "no staying power" yesterday

[vast arch]

interesting

[bleak pelican]

they had a whole blog about it kek

[bleak pelican]

im a big tfd fan bro and unfortunately i don't see it surviving to 2027 unfortunately man

[obtuse chasm]

2 more hours and I’ll be available don’t want to pray on your downfall lol but I hope I make it in time 😭

[slender zodiac]

just singlehndedly fund it

[bleak pelican]

i fund drising not tfd sorry

[slender zodiac]

fund both

[bleak pelican]

nah bro netease needs to pay bills more

[obtuse chasm]

I was a bunny main when the game first dropped got the exclusive kill skin and everything but quit soon after cuz I was just bored of gaming in general for the most part but was fun while I did play

[slender zodiac]

fund my d rising account i need 2 more efrideet

[vast arch]

we'll see, just joined a team so hopefully we can clear. If we do I'll still join

[neon pebble]

Get me a team

[bleak pelican]

sorry, i only buy donfc characters

[obtuse chasm]

I’m teasing, I hope you guys get it good luck 🫶

[slender zodiac]

what if i legally change my name

[bleak pelican]

no can do

[obtuse chasm]

I recorded my pull videos and you never responded 🫩

[bitter estuary]

water is wet ahh statement

literally 90% of nexon games in the past decades

[neat valley]

I checked them out tho , I must have gotten side tracked 🤧

[bleak pelican]

and you're one of em

[spring scaffold]

water is not wet

[bleak pelican]

tell me when the relevance arrives again for bepisman and maybe i'll play it again

I drink H2O not Water ahh statement

[obtuse chasm]

Here you go

Take it

[slender zodiac]

i would

[twilit thistle]

🤔 Then why am i?

[bitter estuary]

balls

[tight talon]

Did W1 happen yet or everyone lowkirkenuenly sucks at this game?

[bleak pelican]

gave u 100k more

[obtuse chasm]

Thank you kind sir

[spring scaffold]

Gwynn

[bleak pelican]

no problem

[twilit thistle]

Ashually if u look closer u will see that i am dual weilding gwynn and umeko

[spring scaffold]

🗿

[polar crane]

Understandable honestly

[spring scaffold]

This guy gets it

(In bed at night)

(I know where he lives)

[obtuse chasm]

Since people are struggling with efrideet pulls imagine this is yall and hopefully it helps you’re gambling addiction

[polar crane]

promise

[spring scaffold]

Promise? No.
Threat? absolutely

[obtuse chasm]

Casual chat has joined Dr discord 😭

[twilit thistle]

For just 100k silver a day you can save a poor starving Lucy

[bitter estuary]

balls

[lavish carbon]

aaaaaaaah

[bitter estuary]

yes

[twilit thistle]

❤️‍🔥

[stiff breach]

does a t0 efrideet still use ring of conversion

[twilit thistle]

did yall like the new blitz maps we got today

[stiff breach]

ok then what would my friend replace ring of conversion for efrideet

[lavish carbon]

actually yes

[obtuse chasm]

Healing veil

[normal citrus]

Anything that heals

[polar summit]

Did any1 test cloudstrike yet

[obtuse chasm]

Has anyone else been getting DM’s super late?

All my pings are like 4 days old

[lavish carbon]

ingame? yeah like several months old

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah I got dmed for teams by like 3-4 different people and just now got the actual message

They need to fix that asap

[polar summit]

I still can’t post vids or screenshot in this chat lmao

[obtuse chasm]

Send it to me and I’ll post it

[polar summit]

Aight

[storm scroll]

Not yet
But I will

I have all main cats

[obtuse chasm]

Courtesy of whiskey, this is absolutely insane

[harsh berry]

YEETS AND BOLTS

[polar summit]

Missing both cats btw

[obtuse chasm]

Try it on servitor

I wanna see how much it does to it

[harsh berry]

Okay but since i don't have efri maxed yet i can skip on upgrading in favor of the other two.

[polar summit]

It’s not fully upgraded

[harsh berry]

But man thats clean

[obtuse chasm]

I know but I wanna see it at base

[polar summit]

When I get the others cats I will do that

[twilit thistle]

😭

[sharp talon]

everyone else in my team is 5/5 😭 my game is bugged for some reason

[heady obsidian]

did you do all 3

[sharp talon]

yes and it didnt count

[twilit thistle]

Wow what luck 💀

[heady obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-laughing-cat-laughing-meme-gif-1870581765782110556

[harsh berry]

my transfer rolls are atrocious 💀

[bitter estuary]

we just be throwing anything balls

[twilit thistle]

I said screw it and used the big dice

[harsh berry]

Tried 5 times to get barrier bonus out of an artifact to no avail

[obtuse chasm]

All with the same team?

[sharp talon]

yes

we redid all encounters

[harsh berry]

Now someone test record the inevitable Meta DPS Kabr 1 Thunderlord build

I project 60 mil damage potential

[heady obsidian]

i can't even count that high!

[obtuse chasm]

Damn so I’m going to have to run with a full team that hasn’t done it yet 🫩

There goes my top 600

[harsh berry]

When it hits triple digits, my brain just shuts off and i go ad clear

[heady obsidian]

top 600 is for total time, you should be fine as long as you do it fast enough before Monday

[obtuse chasm]

I’m not worried about that fam I’m worried about the issue rawr had, if I jump into my team I planned on running with and we run it all back, if it will even count towards the clear

[last matrix]

[obtuse chasm]

As soon as I max cloudstrike I’m hopping straight on to Kabr thunderlord

[twilit thistle]

[polar summit]

Ye it does over 20m dmg on 20 secs easily with little effort

[obtuse chasm]

W ty bro can’t waittttt

[polar summit]

I just cba optimizing the best rotation right now

[obtuse chasm]

Yessirrr ty for testing, can’t wait to get it tonight wish I would’ve logged in in time and not missed my group 🫩

[polar summit]

🙏🏽

[twilit thistle]

❤️‍🔥 @vast arch 2nd attempt after completing the proper build. Near 100% overshield uptime. Setup @indigo solar made, godrolls, etc. It cooks.

That time is the time I spent not using it, and attempting that.

[karmic chasm]

Question

When are you marrying Taniks @twilit thistle

[limber pine]

I made it to 15% hp 2nd encounter

After 8+ hours 🤣

[obtuse chasm]

Are you still going for it? I’m getting off in an hour if you’re down to run it back

[twilit thistle]

🤔 I mean it coulda been you in that message but u didnt build it

Skill issue

[limber pine]

We got a group hoping on in 30 mins to try again lol

[obtuse chasm]

Need a +1 👀

[limber pine]

I think there is still room

[obtuse chasm]

Wait for me plssss

[limber pine]

Ye check ruin server

[obtuse chasm]

Ruin server?

[obtuse chasm]

Dm me

[neon pebble]

Your pack rqiding withoit yoi

Teach them boys how to play, its embarassing

[limber pine]

Huh?

[neon pebble]

Necrosis leaves and SIN falls to crap

[limber pine]

My pack didn't even run anything today togethrr

Everyone is playing with their own groups

[neon pebble]

Fatburglar reveal

[obtuse chasm]

Facts groups are kind of mixed rn

[neon pebble]

We just lost another but was like 4 sin dudes

[twilit thistle]

💀 Like i mean it actually melts stuff

[limber pine]

cL and them?

[neon pebble]

Yeah

[rocky nebula]

So is the second encounter nerfed already or is it at 3:10am CST?

[limber pine]

Yeah they are just playing for fun with their homies tryna help them clear stage 1

[neon pebble]

Yeah we're laughing so hard, its a good time

[limber pine]

Yep sounds about right lol

[karmic chasm]

The glaze is eternal

It’s not a skill issue it’s the fact that I uh don’t play Estela

[spice wigeon]

EMEA?

[cyan tide]

Was nerfed like 8 hours ago

[limber pine]

NA

[rocky nebula]

Why did they tweet "at 4:10" if the tweet was at 4:10? That's so confusing.

[neon pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/all-he-did-was-take-the-credit-sonia-stevens-wentworth-he-just-took-the-credit-he-took-all-the-credit-gif-22891854

[cyan tide]

I'm guessing they were waiting for the world's first team to clear before implementing the changes

[rocky nebula]

That doesn't answer the question of "at this time" but then it's that time

[cyan tide]

Idk maybe they were expecting people to clear it faster lol

[karmic chasm]

I need to do a percentage catalog of Lucy’s messages at some point just to see how many times Taniks is mentioned. I think they should just kiss

[limber pine]

Bro your name font almost looks like some ting crazy lol

That W looks like a B

[twilit thistle]

it might be

[white yew]

is 8% damage alot vs 35%?

[limber pine]

Bruh LOL spit me drink out

[vocal mango]

holy max win

[stiff breach]

what mods do i want to put on jezibaba

[neon pebble]

Nah @cobalt beacon is #1 taniks glazer

[cyan tide]

Man, that's such a bad roll. You should give it to me so I can get rid of it

[karmic chasm]

Lolol I know

[vocal mango]

does this work with sa reload?

[neon pebble]

No

[vocal mango]

rate of fire im guessing for the stat

bis

[neon pebble]

No idea

[vocal mango]

and this should be bis

[neon pebble]

Im upset no drama this raid

[stiff breach]

lol thats like bis for every weapon

[twilit thistle]

The goat can do as he wishes.

[neat valley]

got him to 1 health and then we wiped

first phase lol

[karmic chasm]

Nobody left to cause it

[vocal mango]

w pink gun\

[karmic chasm]

This gun looks so good with so many different shaders

[white yew]

hes in a raid rn

he cant glaze unfort

[vocal mango]

it took 200 jezis to get that roll... 💀

[obtuse chasm]

The new smg looks even better imo the pink and black one looks sick

[oak kettle]

Eh isnt there also a general mod in the same slot that gives damage to held weapon at cost of heavy ammo brick size

That seems really good on a lot of primary mythics

[vocal mango]

its the worst mod ever

[oak kettle]

Most notably it goes incredibly hard on lgls with truth on hairkora

[obtuse chasm]

The 4-4 and its got an upgraded perk 😭

[oak kettle]

Cus it only drops the brick size from 6 to 5

[obtuse chasm]

Still hunting my adept jeziba 😔

[karmic chasm]

Fun fact, that shader is a actually a Black Pink reference. It’s the title of one of their songs, Kill This Love.

[obtuse chasm]

That’s actually fire, I didn’t know Dr has Easter eggs like that

[oak kettle]

I disagree personally, given it’s yet another way to improve exotic heavy dps. Imo best in slot for any boss encounter gauntlet activity and for certain exotic pairings where the penalty is minimal, like truth

[karmic chasm]

I didn’t realize and first and thought the name was super odd for the color scheme, and then it dawned on me.

[vocal mango]

4 5

[white yew]

also the cloudstrike really is that gun on effrideet

after using it im a farming for a mythic HC now

[vocal mango]

I need a decent team b ru

[oak kettle]

Common Cloudstrike W

[karmic chasm]

Guess I’ll be doing the same 💀

[obtuse chasm]

I’m blind

[karmic chasm]

Haven’t even gotten her mythic sniper drop yet, still using a 40k

That’s ok I’ve been chilling

[oak kettle]

I’ll probably be sticking to crimson for now simply because I have a mythic sniper and wardcliff is my priority from the new exotics

[white yew]

i promise u cloudstrike is worth it

[obtuse chasm]

It’s goated but I’m swapping it for cloudstrike

[white yew]

with just cat 1 im dealing like 9 mil in 20 seconds with just sniper and damage combo

its stupid

[oak kettle]

Oh yeah 100% but efrideet isnt even a character I’m particularly maining

[white yew]

also its ammo is fabricated out of thin air when you get the chain hits

[oak kettle]

So wardcliff first if it truly does do the funny for hairkora, then cloudstrike, then tlord

[white yew]

so u get like 50 ammo technically

[oak kettle]

Triple Tap do be like that

Common Cloudstrike W yet again

[white yew]

wardcliff is him aswell

it shoots like its not tweaking

straight line with tracking with 8 rockets

[oak kettle]

Oh dear

[karmic chasm]

I just wanna have both setups complete bc of how fun Crimson is

[hidden linden]

2nd Encounter really is the vault encounter of this game but on steroids. 💀

[oak kettle]

My guess would be crimson is better for roam and cloudstrike for boss content?

[white yew]

its closer to caretaker from VOW

[oak kettle]

Honestly using a sniper for anything other than dps just doesn’t feel right in this game, maybe I need to adjust my settings a bit

[obtuse chasm]

That’s my same exact reasoning I want to have the versatility on efrideet she’s still super good with mythic sniper exotic just does more damage

[hidden linden]

its mix of a bunch of encounters more than caretaker. only similarity is boss stunning and wipe mechanic

[grave ridge]

How’s the new raid? For those that have attempted it / beaten it. I’ve been hearing some complaints about certain mechanics in there.

[sharp talon]

omg it counted i love netease

[karmic chasm]

I’d imagine, Crimson shreds literally everything. Glad I can do so much with Efri without buying the pass. Hoping for 1 or 2 more pulls of her. T4 would be awesome

[hidden linden]

1st encounter easy. 2nd encounters most challenging. third encounter not as bad as second encounter from what I gathered from teams that cleared.

[oak kettle]

Crimson efrideet is like the other situation (compared to what I mentioned before) I think of where -heavy ammo +both weapon damage mod would be good

[hidden linden]

you lowkey have to be flawless for 2nd encounter.

[grave ridge]

Yea I’ve been hearing that 2nd encounter is very unforgiving

[oak kettle]

Just cus crimson really carries hard there

[karmic chasm]

Right. Also having 96 ammo in chaos is kind of funny

[white yew]

if u played vow day 1 its like caretaker on day 1

with the 22 Million hp

[grave ridge]

Oh dear lord.

[white yew]

so far some one found out how to 1 phase the 2nd encounter boss

when i mean one i literally mean 1 team

[hidden linden]

BRO WHAT?!

[grave ridge]

Jeez

[pine verge]

2nd encounter is not that hard in terms of boss hp

[hidden linden]

Its not damaging the boss thats a problem.

[white yew]

yeah but imagine the crit spot is bugged and you can barely hit it

[pine verge]

Well compared to caretaker the damage is easy

I didnt have that much trouble stunning boss, it can be weird though

[hidden linden]

the boss just has alot of buggy attacks during DPS

[pine verge]

Especially with shotguns

[white yew]

also the on the 2nd cycle of the boss mechanic he has a chance to bug out and start sprinting or just outright walk in a linear path and turn and look at you

we only beat it cause we had it down

[bleak pelican]

ye it's this reason why unfortunately ima just wait till monday

[hidden linden]

had that happen to my team and caused us to wipe on our best run.

[karmic chasm]

You and me both twin

[bleak pelican]

like i get folks wanting to do "contest" to get the emblem and stuff and i congratulate anyone who clears this, but the 2nd encounter genuinely is not it, specially for a mobile premise

[pine verge]

fun raid though

[white yew]

the one run that got us the clear was cause we got lucky and he didnt do any of those bugs and when he did i had the buff to break him and was on effrideet

[hidden linden]

is aura completley RNG or is there a way to force it?

[bleak pelican]

i see 2nd encounter clears for the top 100 leaderboard being very scarce this time around, and even then no shot EU gets at least 60 clears by monday

think eu is at what, like 5 clears rn

maybe lower idk

[stable cosmos]

I took a hiatus and just dont got the stuff for contest unfortunately. Did at least clear first encounter even if that dont say much.

[white yew]

2nd phase u can force it

but on first phase its completely random

[hidden linden]

so annoying

[white yew]

unless someone found out already

[sharp talon]

4 lol

[bleak pelican]

nah i feel u, the crit spot thing is also a problem

[white yew]

but im fairly certain its random

[jagged osprey]

2nd encounter is brutal man

[bleak pelican]

4, ye may not even hit 40 or 50 clears

NA i see at least 50+, but i could be wrong

[stable cosmos]

NA is already double digits

[white yew]

3rd encounter is so free if ur locked in from 2nd encounter

[bleak pelican]

then we're def getting 50

[white yew]

not even funny

[bleak pelican]

ye

[hidden linden]

I've heard its way easier

[bleak pelican]

1st encounter not so bad, 2nd encounter is literally caretaker day 1 diff with a genuine bug

3rd encounter is free

[stable cosmos]

I remember how i cleared Caretaker day 1

They bugged out.

[bleak pelican]

and the "nerf" to that crit spot did nothing

[grave ridge]

From what it looks of it, 3rd encounter doesn’t look that complicated at all

[bleak pelican]

nah, i watched vids of it, it's so free once u know it

[white yew]

i think it only took us so long to do 3rd cause i was mentally clocked out from breaking every solar shield on effrideet with a solar sniper and javelins

[hidden linden]

I'm gonna be honest if a team cant beat 1st encounter just give up on trying to beat 2nd encounter than 😭 💀 First encounter is so easy man.

[stable cosmos]

My team got lucky we got the glitch where they just stood there and ate damage for unlimited time on third floor.

[grave ridge]

Same. Lmao bro stayed down indefinitely

[grave ridge]

Gotcha.

[bleak pelican]

but yeah, unfortunately i do not want to suffer through the 2nd encounter here till monday

[white yew]

on day 1 caretaker we did that dps check twice cause the first time we cleared it and it wiped us anyways while the chest was still there

[bleak pelican]

so with that being said, imo, the devs have 2 options here

[pine verge]

I wouldnt say 3rd is much easier than 2nd. It does have less shenanigans though

[stable cosmos]

My first time clearing Wrath we cleared and wiped at the same time so the loot was just on the floor on respawn

[white yew]

3rd is really easy

[bleak pelican]

once 24 hours hit i know there's another 24 hours of the lb contest, but they need to release normal mode imo a day before hand or fix the 2nd encounter crit bug issue

[hidden linden]

and those less shenanigans is why its way easier

[bleak pelican]

otherwise i can def see hesistance with future "raids" by clearing teams if we ever encounter issues like this again

[white yew]

like if the mental chalk didnt happen from 2nd encounter the raid was probably gonna last like 2 hours tops

[bleak pelican]

correct

[grave ridge]

Yup

[bleak pelican]

like day 1 clear for this raid on a mobile game surpassed a few actual destiny raid times if im right

[hidden linden]

idk about that considering monoliths fall contest was 10x easier and that took around 2 hours.

and ads were not hitting as hard

[stable cosmos]

RoN was like 4 hours I think

So yes it did surpass a D2 raid.

[white yew]

first encounter we cleared it in 20 mins

[bleak pelican]

ron was 2 hours 26 mins

this raid beat ron

[stable cosmos]

Oh well it still passed it

[white yew]

then we were stuck on 2nd for like 5 or 6 hours

[bleak pelican]

by an entire hour and 35 mins

[white yew]

then did final encounter in 1 hour and 30

[hidden linden]

im taking about the raid as a whole. first encounter is not suprising to beat that fast.

[stable cosmos]

RoN is still my only raid contest clear... At least being able to clear Vespers Host and Sundered Doctrine Contest makes up for that lo.

[bleak pelican]

brother the ad difference here compared in the 2nd encounter to monolith is insane

[white yew]

i think i wouldve lasted 2 hours cause the 2nd encounter was very easy to figure out but the bugs cooked it bad

[bleak pelican]

genuinely the tuning here for a mobile game scares me

[white yew]

blame helhest

[bleak pelican]

like i get people want difficulty for destiny rising but u have to remember it's a mobile game lmao

[bleak pelican]

well this is just figurative in it's own record

[pine verge]

Whats wrong with a mobile game being challenging?

[bleak pelican]

and again, we know helhest is the serena of drising

[cursive depot]

arbalest for second is a godsend

best way to progress the encounter due to be locked to centurion kill

[bleak pelican]

it's not the problem of it being challenging

it's the premise of understanding that 90% of your community that plays the game utilize a mobile device, whilst the actual "DESTINY" loving community use the emulators to play as it's a better strongsuit for difficult things like this

[white yew]

i cannot picture a mobile player doing that raid

[bleak pelican]

I can upmost 100% guarantee you if a single team in that leaderboard cleared every encounter using a phone without a controller, then only 1 team would do it

like that's a 0.000001% chance of happening

[oak kettle]

This should probably be clarified to touchscreen user

[white yew]

true

i mean zombie is a controller player but at the end of the day hes on a emu

[pine verge]

So what? You can connect a controller to a phone or tablet. And if you use it often, touch controls can be surprisingly good.

[oak kettle]

Mobile players can absolutely do this if they simply use a controller

[bleak pelican]

again, i doubt this is realistically happening with this contest

[white yew]

can you imagine locking in for 6 hours on ur phone using touch screens

[oak kettle]

Though screen size leaves a lot to be desired

[bleak pelican]

no shot a 6 man fireteam on mobile without a controller cleared this

prove me wrong by finding me a 6 man team all using their thumbs on a 6 by 5 inch mobile screen

[pine verge]

Why not? Either way it's optional. Even in D2 how many players are doing contest raids? Or even raids in general?

[bleak pelican]

[cursive depot]

while this is true, for the audiance that this is targeted towards, this content is great tho

[pine verge]

It's 0 problem to have difficulty in a time limited contest raid on a mobile game.

[bleak pelican]

optional? my guy...

the target audience is stuck on a mobile platform and only uplifted by the fact it's given access via an emulator

i can tell u right now, if destiny rising had no access via emulators, this game would be in a totally different light

[oak kettle]

I mean it’s doable but it’s torture for the sake of torture when anyone who doesn’t have a pc and games almost certainly has a DualShock or an Xbox controller lying around

[bleak pelican]

again, it's doable, but not realistally viewable by the current standards of emulators existing

people will choose those over a hand held device any day of the week for this game

[oak kettle]

Mhm

[pine verge]

The target audience is way more than just players that play contest raids. And the emulator exists so im not sure what youre trying to say here.

[bleak pelican]

i literally just said if emulators didn't exist this game would be in a totally different light

[stable cosmos]

I can't live playing on mobile in more difficult content I'm only using PC for those since its significantly more comfortable and familiar to me.

[bleak pelican]

it's like some folks in here can't read...wait...this is the destiny community i grew up with

[cursive depot]

Tbh I dont think the contest is necessarily geared towards mobile players

[bleak pelican]

it isn't, which is hilariously unfortunate

[oak kettle]

For me it’s controller with a good screen vs controller with a tiny screen and my phone trying to explode if I’m not pointing my room fan on it

[cursive depot]

how is it unfortunate?

[oak kettle]

Unfortunately my laptop is having issues so phone attempting to blow itself up is my only option rn

[pine verge]

What point are you even trying to make? Originally you seemed to be against the idea of a mobile first game having challenging content.

[bleak pelican]

i just find the mobile game industry in these type of scenarios to be unwelcoming to the mobile device community when u need to go beyond the mobile device to breach barriers for such content

[cursive depot]

I think they can still have a version like Crota that wasnt contest difficulty but still had the extra mechs and fairplay for a harder experience

[bleak pelican]

i literally said i dont hate challenges nor wish for there not to be a challenge mode at all

[oak kettle]

I’ll be perfectly honest I think that simply having easy controller integration is enough to justify it

[bleak pelican]

yes, which is fine, there is nothing wrong with utilizing a controller

[pine verge]

You really dont though, you could certainly do a contest raid on your phone. I know people who did crotas on their mobile device just fine. Plus controllers work on mobile devices. The game being on mobile makes it way more accessible and I like it quite a lot

[oak kettle]

But also rising on its own does a better job than most other mobile games at just raw mobile inputs

Mobile shooters, I should clarify

[pine verge]

My raid clear for great hunt literally had a mobile player playing on a redmagic pro

[oak kettle]

Gyro aim goes a hell of a long way when controls aren’t good

[bleak pelican]

at the end of the day, the content should be accessable to every platform no matter the inputs. there shouldn't be a lacking territory unless you're catering to such devices because you know you're held back by the one thing everyone knows is of lesser value:

a mobile device

[pine verge]

It already is.

[bleak pelican]

again, a mobile device

[dark gulch]

hows raiding folks

[bleak pelican]

there is nothing wrong with using a controller, emulator, or whatever u want to use for it. the game is still built for said mobile device and unfortunately we will never see the day where the content will be tuned for thumb print play against contest modes catered to the emulator and controller players

it just isn't the world type we live in today

[last matrix]

one day this game will be ported

[stable cosmos]

I enjoyed first encounter.

Unfortunately dont got the characters/gear to go beyond it.

[bleak pelican]

and when it does the mobile era will be left behind

[dark gulch]

i have zero issue moving around with my thumbs like I do with controller. However, i can use more fingers on controller

[stable cosmos]

So I had to stop due to such issues.

[last matrix]

did mobile ever have its era

[bleak pelican]

and that is the money winning answer right here

you can use more fingers on a controller

there will never be favoritism by a mobile game company catered to the mobile device itself as long as such things exist

it's just our gamer way to utilize a controller lol

[dark gulch]

as for the second encounter, yeah imma need a controller because while my thumbs are fine, better accuracy would be controller. The best? keyboard and mouse

[bleak pelican]

nah i've seen some insane troller players bruh some our better than kb&m players

take @pine verge for example the best troller player in here

[pine verge]

Bro what are you even talking about. I just asked my raid team and we had two players using touch controls

[last matrix]

hes saying we need a pc port and i agree

[bleak pelican]

ngl bro at this point we're beyond the topic of touch controls, we're focusing on the mobile aspect of the game

[pine verge]

Why not just say that fr. I agree lol

[bleak pelican]

exactly

[pine verge]

Mobile first but a pc port would be nice

[dark gulch]

well i am 99% keyboard and mouse. controller i will play sometimes but eh. And i have a really good one but dont use it much

[stable cosmos]

Yea.

[bleak pelican]

because u have no input of value towards the context we were implying and unfortunately destiny titan crayola built brains like u and i are stuck to such premises

[pine verge]

I would prefer D Rising have a mobile audience too for more accessibility

[dark gulch]

Mobile gaming is on the rise because its portable

I cant drag my pc everywhere i go lol

[bleak pelican]

we are formed by the grape and will stay by the grape as long as the grape gives us the light

it's the guardian way and you will BE A GRAPE

[pine verge]

Dont insult me bro

[last matrix]

portable gaming in general is on the rise

[dark gulch]

yes^

[bleak pelican]

bro im just saying we're all stuck as destiny guardians with destiny community mindsets

[last matrix]

unfortunate that playing on mobile in general is still bum cheeks

[dark gulch]

thankfully i copped a 5090 before the spike

[bleak pelican]

we can't leave the destiny mindset bro it's in our dna

blame bungie for giving us a life to enjoy

[last matrix]

whats the destiny mindset

[bleak pelican]

copium over the loss of our love so we moved to the next object

drising

[dark gulch]

Destiny 1 to me is like halo 3 to someone else hahaha

[bleak pelican]

and marathon, but we no talk bout that rn

[last matrix]

bland game

[dark gulch]

tan did you pay $60 for that

[bleak pelican]

i got it for free kek

[dark gulch]

oh lit

I paid $80 for RE Requiem

worth it.

[bleak pelican]

sometimes i don't understand how some folks in here can take a genuine conversation to heart man like i wasn't going against anyone 😭

mane said dont insult me like i was being sympathetic to the chat man now im upset

[last matrix]

bruh

[dark gulch]

I play this on mobile bc my kids are mobile ahahahaha. Honestly i do not think the group that beat the raid in 22mins was on thumbs like lets be real

[bleak pelican]

they weren't, as much as i'd love to see someone do it

[dark gulch]

i love my thumbs but sometimes they arent thumbin and i press the wrong mechanic on screen lmao

ahh yes punch the air instead of jump

it is much harder to space buttons on mobile vs ipad and thats even crazier

ipad with four finger claw is insane. props to anyone in here that plays that mode aha

[sly sorrel]

On our server here, there are only about a hundred people playing the game online every day.

[dark gulch]

so youre saying i can get into 200-600 for bannerrr

[sly sorrel]

We can't even do automatic matching

[bleak pelican]

exactly why i said at least 95% of people touching this game use a controller or emulator.

you're only on your thumbs if u doing quick log ins at work, during netflix with yo maiden or damzel, or drivin 90 mph down the highway like lone wanderer does

[dark gulch]

👁️ 👄👁️

[bleak pelican]

drive my friend,

[dark gulch]

be freeee

[last matrix]

sounds like lone wanderer may be addicted

[sly sorrel]

I heard some rumors that the project team of this game has been disbanded by NetEase

[dark gulch]

or text. we use thumbs for that. I think tan uses their toes maybe

[bleak pelican]

ngl i wouldn't be surprised

i can give u the hard truth right now about drising

[dark gulch]

anyone finish second encounter

[bleak pelican]

unfortunately netease has a track record of changing their "gacha" game functions majorly to a point where they "NEED" to bring back players and try to flip the stature of the game

and either 2 outcomes will come from this

[dark gulch]

oh happy birthday!

[bleak pelican]

we ride it out and hope it ends up in a position where they continue to breath life into the game

[last matrix]

did some fly whisper this in your ear or something

[bleak pelican]

or know we have at least a year and a half left

the moment they dropped pinnacle energy was when i knew we have a chance of survival or end of service in the future

[bleak pelican]

thank u viper!

i love destiny rising, but to be honest even with the giga whales in this game they aren't really making much profit unfortunately, and they needed to change their "gameplan" to make the game "better" when in reality its the exact same thing, just cattering more to the f2p community than originally forged for the p2w and extreme timegating qualities they thought were the norm

they underestimated the destiny community for what we are, and now they had to adjust to it

it matters on how they take our liking and feedback from here on out

[last matrix]

happy 52nd! 🎊 🎈

[shut geyser]

Anyone want my destiny rising account im retiring

[last matrix]

aw hell naw

[stable cosmos]

Wait its your birthday? Happy birthday (I'm illiterate)

[shut geyser]

Its got top 32 for Eclipse 14 for crota and half the characters are s6

[last matrix]

is that stuff good

[sly sorrel]

Don’t have any illusions about NetEase’s operating model. Most of NetEase’s games will go through a period of hype and then die at the speed of light.

[shut geyser]

Has no value to me anymore

[bleak pelican]

april 4th

was yesterday, and i turned 25

[stable cosmos]

That was 2 hours ago close enough :(

[bleak pelican]

all good my friendo and thank u

[bleak pelican]

correct, it's very rare for a netease game to stay alive

the ONLY netease games i can tell u will never die is Once Human and Where Winds Meet

unless netease makes the leap of faith to port destiny rising on pc with its own launcher, i don't see this lasting to mid 2027

[last matrix]

didnt they make marvel rivals

that seems to still be going pretty strong

[bleak pelican]

ye it's there no.1 but there's no point saying it'll never die as it's just their biggest hitter no matter what

marvel rivals is their crown jewel

[dark gulch]

it was in your name and it went right over my head. Im sorryyyy

[bleak pelican]

it's alright miss ❤️

[last matrix]

i didnt connect the dots either

[bleak pelican]

i truly hope netease makes a pc port, it's literally all they need to do and they will win

otherwise we're going down a dark path unfortunately