💭│main-chat

[bitter estuary]

im using her in pve

[obtuse chasm]

Maybe before nerf

[sharp talon]

truth is much better

[worn lotus]

I was wondering this too since before, cluster rockets paired well with her abilities. So if wardcliff shoots a bunch, it could be good

YouTuber said lol

oh well

[obtuse chasm]

Could possibly be as cracked as four horned cluster

[obtuse chasm]

Stay away from YouTube

[bitter estuary]

i've already explained this multiple times and im tired of this

normally other rl's give you 3~5 per brick, which truth gives you 6~8 per brick

[worn lotus]

You take what you can get with rising 😔

[obtuse chasm]

Trust fam just ask in discord

Cc just push slop to make content

[bold fog]

huh? is exotic sword rly better than sweet business + mythic?

[worn lotus]

I mean the ammo economy may be good but I’m just talking about dps

[rain plinth]

Mmm IHop

[vast arch]

It was better until they "nerfed" 4 horn interaction with Ikora's passive

[worn lotus]

Ya but I also don’t wanna be spamming the chat with questions yall have answered 10 times everyday probably lol

[sharp talon]

i got a faster time on the last expanse cycle with truth compared to the time ppl abused four horned

[worn lotus]

Ah I see

[bitter estuary]

debateable, i cant test it out now because my sb is cat band 2 but no catalyst upgrades

Will grind more after phase 4 is out

[vast arch]

nobody here cares, they'll answer 100 times lol

[obtuse chasm]

Eh, ignore the trolls we’re here to help (I’m a troll 90% of the time unless it’s about efrideet or ikora)

[bold fog]

so I guess I'm asking @ all
finnala: do u sweet business or partridge?

[twilit thistle]

😭 who is the sick twisted developer that said this was universal

[sullen depot]

sweet business

[bitter estuary]

this crap is ONLY catered towards hh and it shows

[sharp talon]

why would hh use it?

trinity ghoul mains

[bold fog]

they can also get blast radius lol

[sullen depot]

when did HH do blast damage lol

[bitter estuary]

sweetbusiness for everything else, esp with maxed out

the issue? scorch as a status needs a rewrok, finnala's kit is completely fine

[worn lotus]

Heavy ammo is so plentiful in rising though so I feel like it’s a good trade off for some characters

[obtuse chasm]

HH buff when?

[bitter estuary]

doesnt arby do blast on elemental shield?

[sharp talon]

let hh pop spread shinkas atp

[twilit thistle]

All the universal perks

[sharp talon]

that would be bs if it affected that

[bitter estuary]

OH WAIT ITS A MOD

imma test it on the new mythic lfr LMAO

[sullen depot]

when could mods be slot into exotics

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/balls-lee-arknights-lee-arknights-gif-26429173

[bold fog]

if I may say
lol and lmao

[sullen depot]

explosive payload on bows when

[dusty spire]

Polaris and symmetry

[worn lotus]

So Ikora is cury mury and truth, what about Estella, is heir apparent better?

[dusty spire]

Umeko can do blast cover and Kabr

You don’t need Hikora or Maru for break as we know

[obtuse chasm]

I’m not an Estella player but you got ikoras kit correct

[dusty spire]

Lots of flexy options in cordon

[sharp talon]

jaren is peak spread char

[dusty spire]

I’m loving in cordon atm

[sharp talon]

for cordon u only need to kill the first spread shinka. we've tried breaking it manually and it works lol

[obtuse chasm]

Old prefect*

[dusty spire]

Support is a real thing now

[neon pebble]

Octant is still peak eh?

[sharp talon]

ye

[dusty spire]

Yeah the other two are silly and like to kill then selves

[pure portal]

Yo what's good? I can only launch operation gordon up to level 5 for matchmaking. Is there an LFG In this server so we can find people for it?

[neon pebble]

#lfg-others

[dusty spire]

That’s what we need

[twilit thistle]

It wont work, actually. For one that wont actually work for polaris, it would be the sniper. For two, it only effects these stats.

[dusty spire]

The others is tooo all over the place

[worn lotus]

Oh btw, is anyone here planning to do the raid, me and my friend are d2 raiders and would join

[twilit thistle]

Taniks taught me that.

[sharp talon]

my ikora is done for now 💀

[dusty spire]

So then what does it mean?

[twilit thistle]

Chatgpt hallucinated.

[dusty spire]

That’s the description no ?

[obtuse chasm]

I should have a team already but if not I’ll pick you up, gt is GenArrows

[pure portal]

LF anyone for a runs of Cordon Containtment 5+ and onward. I have a solid T6 efrideet I can play

anyone game?

I can carry the run, just need people with blast

[obtuse chasm]

Lost me at carry

[indigo solar]

Sorry was watching the launch, yeah lowkey think a lot of exotics get beat by mythics now with the new mod changes

[bold fog]

undaunted spiral > explosive shell?

[sharp talon]

Yes

[bold fog]

ugh

[indigo solar]

Especially exotic primary/mythic heavy combos, I think many of them will want a mythic primary to boost the heavy damage now

[pure portal]

Why even make a comment lol? I am saying anyone will do for the run with what I said

[neon pebble]

All the old -cough cough- whole games weapons got powercreeped in 1 update

[pure portal]

Not being picky here, it's hard to find anyone who is down to matchmake on here for this game

[obtuse chasm]

This isn’t lfg

[indigo solar]

99% of the time

[pure portal]

Ya I know, I posted it in lfg others but that doesn't do jack

Legit no one on this game anymore

[twilit thistle]

🐐 has spoken

[vast arch]

That means nobody is looking in here rn

[neon pebble]

Wee wooo mod alert 🚨

[obtuse chasm]

I can get a full stack in 30 secs if I logged in, make more friends

[vast arch]

make fireteam finder post in game

[sharp talon]

what happens if u post a fireteam finder for nightmare containment?

[pure portal]

aight thx

[neon pebble]

Wee woo now a skill issue 🚨

[neon pebble]

Its useless to find fireteams in game and on here. It comes down to your Pack sadly

[obtuse chasm]

Or friends, but yeah

[leaden epoch]

For Efrideet's 1 and 2 artifact slots is it something like Bulwark Token and Unrelenting Token? Does that change depending on exotic?

[pure portal]

Used to have a lot of friends, didn't play the game for a while, none of them came back lol

[neon pebble]

Ignore the dude wanting my attention, friends dont get you worlds first. They get you dissapointment. I can see they are trying their hardest, thats why its so dissapointing

[pure portal]

gotta start finding people

[obtuse chasm]

Nimble veil, and conversion

[neon pebble]

I also just came back, nobody can tell me any good NA packs lol. They are all gone or too spread out.

[obtuse chasm]

? I was agreeing with you

Cringey

[leaden epoch]

I see some using Abundance and Conversion, is that only with Crimson for some reason?

[neon pebble]

We found each other 😁 now we need more homies

[pure portal]

Hell yea 😛

[pure portal]

You are the lone wanderer. You don't have any friends silly

[obtuse chasm]

I don’t have a pack, have plenty of friends

Widen your horizons and make more friends

[pure portal]

No you don't, you're the lone wanderer

[obtuse chasm]

Okay

[frozen tree]

For the attribute transfer in artifacts, I feel like it always transfers the same perk from the old artifact. Has anyone done testing on this?

[leaden epoch]

Actually, Nimble Veil or Nimble Ground? Nimble Veil the time for the DR seems pretty short

[neon pebble]

Why you standin still takin more shots?

[frozen tree]

I run nimble ground for constant uptime

[hoary agate]

If the perks are matching, then they'll stay the same/can't change.

If the perks are not matching, then one will transfer.

If you only have one non-matching, then that one will transfer.

If you have multiple non-matching, then only one of them will transfer, chosen at seemingly random.

[obtuse chasm]

In all honesty I’m just recommending nimble veil and conversion because others do, I run nimble ground and healing ground and have had 0 survivability issues

[twilit thistle]

I will admit i am liking the changes for swappable artifacts. 1 and 2 are becoming my personal meta to build. 3 and 4 are always specific to a char, but you can get so much flexiblity with 1 and 2, and try different builds.

[neon pebble]

This is best arti in game, nobody knows it until phase 10 uno

[frozen tree]

I see, that makes more sense. I thought random perk meant a random one in the pool, not random one from the artifact

that makes it seem way less useful lol

[neon pebble]

Every content takes diff slot 1 and 2

[twilit thistle]

One that restores 30% health every time you use an ability

[hoary agate]

You just gotta combine them up.

You can make 4/4s from two non-identical 3/4s.

[neon pebble]

One shot stopper, nothing in DR could 1 shot me before update

[frozen tree]

Is that a guarantee? I have a few 3/4s non identical

[pure portal]

Yo so when I go to create a fireteam finder for operation gordon, stage 5 it doesn't even let me do it cause my light is 3,000 off.

RIP

[sharp talon]

U need a premade

[hoary agate]

If it's completely random, then two 3/4s would have a 25% chance of going the way you want.

[neon pebble]

Yeah, you cant do operation condor underlight without a premade

[bold fog]

wooooooo wolf melee day

[pure portal]

Damn, wish there was more people looking for gordon

[neon pebble]

Get it!

[vast arch]

send a message through in game chat to see if anyone wants to run?

[neon pebble]

People dont play this game to sweat. They go to the gym to take selfies not actually work

[frozen tree]

Thats pretty rough 😭

[leaden epoch]

Sorry what do you mean? I was saying Nimble Ground to keep moving and numble veil is only 3s after using an ability.

[obtuse chasm]

Ignore him, he’s a troll

[frozen tree]

So this would give me a 25% chance of getting weapon, dmg, arc, and signature?

[twilit thistle]

Yea cordon is dead. As usual. Instead of calamity/cordon they should rotate different game modes, bc u get burned out on that within 0.1ms of entering the match

[sharp talon]

cordon is pretty good

[neon pebble]

The 3secs after an ability are more than enough. Im saying if you are mid movement for nimble ground why you getting shot in the 1st place? Jump, double jump, slide, sprint, repeat. Dodges 90% of shots

[sharp talon]

theres an option for all weapon types

[sullen depot]

no thats a 50% chance of getting one of the two attributes u are missing. so arc or super i nthis case

damage and signature remain

[obtuse chasm]

Rewards are just so meh tho, there’s no real incentive to push for majority of players other then leaderboards

[bold fog]

ohh noooo
this is so hard

[neon pebble]

I used to survive expanse 40, trust me low dmg reduction buffs are useless. You need big number buffs and to use them effectively. Enemies hit so hard and are being creeped more with new power cap

[hoary agate]

Your final will be one of the following:

Damage/Sig/ Weapon/Arc
Damage/Sig/ Weapon/Super
Damage/Sig/ Vuln/Arc
Damage/Sig/ Vuln/Super

4 outcomes, I believe it to be random, so yeah 25% chance of wep/dmg/arc/sig.

[twilit thistle]

We don’t have enough lower level players currently I guess. Would still be nice to see more variation tho. All we have event wise is Morgrans 🫠 the rest that they tried sucked. Every time.

[cyan tide]

The shanks with the stormtrooper aim

[frozen tree]

I guess ill take the gamble then, wish me luck xd

[obtuse chasm]

“Survive expanse 40” I’m sorry but didn’t everyone pre update 😭

[leaden epoch]

What do you recommend for 1 and 2 then for Efrideet?

[heady fulcrum]

At what level of the chat can images be sent?

[hoary agate]

Gl

[obtuse chasm]

Level 3 fam

[heady fulcrum]

thanks!

[twilit thistle]

I’d say the iron bar one would be good, but after what netease did with the most recent PvP event, I can’t comfortably suggest it

[sullen depot]

slot 1 is nimble veil or nourishing pact

[frozen tree]

[neon pebble]

I dont use Efri, just came back and dont own her. Ignore the 🤡 who keeps pinging me they mad I dont give them all my attention

[sullen depot]

https://tenor.com/view/pour-drink-pouring-alcohol-respect-gif-9283896756814937503

[hoary agate]

Rip indeed.

[obtuse chasm]

#1 doomposter 🤡

[neon pebble]

Wee woo mod alert 🚨

[frozen tree]

Lemme try once more, I think I understand how it works now and I got more options

Ok got garbage again nvm

[obtuse chasm]

Bro can dish it but can’t take it

[neon pebble]

Still multiple pings multiple days in a row 💀

[obtuse chasm]

It’s been awhile tbh, and I was agreeing with you earlier until you started being rude and disrespectful

[leaden epoch]

Assuming Nimble Veil, then what would 2nd slot be? At the moment I'm assuming I'll be using Cloudstrike but need to see how that does.

[sullen depot]

healing veil imo

[signal phoenix]

Actually I’m the number 1 doom player

[upbeat forge]

Will Destiny Rising eventually shut down?

[sullen depot]

so u have both dmg reduction from nimble and healing on dash from healing

[twilit thistle]

Cloudstrike is going to be so op when maxed.

[neon pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/staind-its-been-awhile-gif-9954395084979558007

[river vigil]

every game will eventually shutdown

[upbeat forge]

Oh ok. When will it’s EOS happen?

[sullen depot]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-masters-meloetta-eos-eos-today-gif-8959168672099389916

[neon pebble]

||april fools||

@vast arch can I please post that EoS in game mail I photoshopped for April Fools? 🙏

Had you guys rollin for a minute

[bitter estuary]

eos balls

[vast arch]

Don't listen to them. EOS is not happening

[obtuse chasm]

Wow, you hating on the new art system, me asking if nimble veil would work while someone else was asking about it, then me agreeing with you and you being disrespectful? Context matters

[obtuse chasm]

I still want to try it on a pregnancy test

[vast arch]

absolutely not 😭

[twilit thistle]

In off topic with a disclaimer or without context of drising in main chat would be the best logic for it

[upbeat forge]

Alright

[signal phoenix]

😂

[leaden epoch]

That's not bad, I was looking at Unrelenting Token. I kind of feel like getting some amount of health back, by the time you're in that situation, it's not enough to help. Again assuming I'm going with Cloudstrike

[signal phoenix]

Imagine getting a warning on April fools 😂

[neon pebble]

I was running floors in expanse 30-40 in under 15 seconds. Dmg Reduction is king to stop lucky strays otherwise you are smokin the floor

[severe rose]

I think the point of April Fools is that it be funny.

[hushed crown]

[neon pebble]

Knock knock

Say it..
Sayyyy itttttt

"Whos there"

[severe rose]

Who’s there

[neon pebble]

No one you killed chat

[severe rose]

closes door

[empty turtle]

How good are the new bows for hellheist??

[neon pebble]

You are new mod to me, I like you already 🤣

[empty turtle]

Which of them is the best??

[sullen depot]

void

[stiff breach]

Any of the new magazine mods good for jaren?

[empty turtle]

Perks??

[empty turtle]

Thanks

[sullen depot]

just remember for controlled heart beat its a perfect draw and fire. u cant draw for too long or u lose the buff

[leaden epoch]

Yeah I'm thinking Calming Perturbation and Unrelenting Token maybe assuming cloudstrike though I do have her at T2 so maybe the ring combo for 1 and 2 is good enough to leave as is

[neon pebble]

He has limited stacks of wpn mastery and has auto reload on dash. Jaren never seen an empty mag in his life

[twilit thistle]

Rare sighting. Not new. I actually read all of Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN]’s messages in main chat, for the first day of chatting. Basil was there too.

[bitter estuary]

god damn 350 clusters left to max out riskrunner

[twilit thistle]

Really good read ngl, it’s like lore atp

[sharp talon]

u use that gun?

[neon pebble]

I will say that each piece of content can take a diff set. If im not pushing end game content best believe I am running a cheese heal/shield build because enemies dont hit hard enough to make dmg reduction good in lower power content

[twilit thistle]

350/390 left. But I must remind you that you need those for ikora, and the new weapon.

[bleak pelican]

the efrideet haters always complaining when they end up rolling t6 ikora and abusing the "bug" anyways

[neon pebble]

Awww crap he is skittish and I scared him off

[bleak pelican]

oh, it's you

[twilit thistle]

@severe rose ❤️‍🔥

[bleak pelican]

lets see how long it takes for basil to respond

<t:1775086434:R>

[severe rose]

👀

[bleak pelican]

22 seconds

[severe rose]

I’m EATING shoo

[bleak pelican]

using an ingame emote for an image because u have no earnings, no damzels, and no relevance

[severe rose]

Inhaling rice

[bleak pelican]

eating a shoe?

[karmic chasm]

Mmm rice

[severe rose]

https://tenor.com/view/shoo-go-away-johnny-depp-captain-jack-sparrow-gif-4877675

[bleak pelican]

Shuu

[severe rose]

Now the cat wants to go outside

[bleak pelican]

you're the cat

[frozen tree]

Finally!!!

[bleak pelican]

congrats

all efrideet haters live on neptune

[cyan tide]

I still need to get arc boost on slot 3 for Efrideet, I've been farming so much chaos for that thing

[bleak pelican]

im literally missing arc boost and thats it

i got all perfect stats cept that

[lapis swallow]

I still see some people crying about rerolling weapons on this game like you can use old Level 80 still, just upgrade them unlike Artifacts that needs fresh ones since those can't be upgraded.

[bleak pelican]

now purr for me

[cyan tide]

Same, it's so annoying

[river vigil]

I'll get my last arc boos artifact once I complete the spenders track 😹

[stiff breach]

What weps are best on efrideet

[severe rose]

Ew

[bleak pelican]

anyone wanna group up for the last artifact?

[severe rose]

Don’t be gross

[river vigil]

I thought I would get it this week but I have nothing to buy silver for yet

[bleak pelican]

i can't tell the cat to purr bruh it's what they do

😭

what sound will they make instead, growl like a wolf?

elephant scream

cabal screech

[twilit thistle]

😭 Neptune is too cool for them. Send them to ceres, nobody even knows that’s a dwarf planet

[river vigil]

warframe players do 😹

[neon pebble]

Aka Im married and have kids, how did you know my life?

[bleak pelican]

[twilit thistle]

They have old perks. To upgrade them you need to gamble with the new ones.

[river vigil]

I need a way to purchase mythic weapon parameters so I can craft 211 more black armory engrams XD

[twilit thistle]

I used up like 100 of the ones I had built up today. Rng is brutal. 😭 and they removed bulwark so we can’t farm them infinitely

[ancient kraken]

Anyone know when I'll be able to open the season of wishes engrams ? I'm already team level 90 despite it saying "Reach Team Lv.80 to unlock Seasons."

[raw marsh]

Gotta finish the primary mission too

[river vigil]

yeah, it looks like I'll just have to pull an all nighter running legendary campaign for tatara gaze drops instead of an all nighter in chaos chasing better artifact substats 🙁

[raw marsh]

Chapter 7-2

[ancient kraken]

Ah, thank you!

I'm close then :)

[neon pebble]

Thought we just transferred over the new perks to our old weapons?

[stiff breach]

I thought u could transfer the uncommon ones to the old weps

[neon pebble]

What a confusing sham system

[candid phoenix]

If you add upgrade A to upgrade B it's a gamble on success, if you add AB to non-upgraded or A or B it will 100% turn into AB

if you add upgrade A to non-upgraded it's 100%, if you add upgrade B to non-upgraded it's 100%

[neon pebble]

Lemme go get a screenshot so I can understand better. Dont go anywhere

[bold fog]

what would yall change?
ikora, ning fei, kabr, finnala

[slow sable]

Is more like the perk start at random lvl and to upgrade you need a higher level of the same perk with a chance to upgrade and theres three levels to the upgrade regular orange, gold circle and then gold circle with a cage?

[neon pebble]

How to make this G roll

[slow sable]

Most of your old weps got upgraded

[twilit thistle]

It can overwrite it.

[neon pebble]

Yall wanted pinnacle gone 💀

Just go grind some more

Alot of bad changes but new weapons are exciting

[slow sable]

I mean the grind is always there we just got to replace thing one by one ship of theseus style

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar I tested that mod, and it barely even made a difference. Point blank lvl 1, old mod vs new mod.

[sullen depot]

ikora - get rampaging pact instead of inverted fury (slot 3)
ning - get nourishing pact (slot 1), rampaging pact (slot 3) and valiant veil (slot 4)
Kabr - i prefer warding pact (slot 1) damage reduction is gonna be necesseray the more u climb
finnala - ring of conversion (slot 2) is good on finnala as she has lots of healing and can get overshield

[neon pebble]

There was never a grind for mythic weapons before. Just RNG and using up some of our 10k engrams saved

[slow sable]

Is still the same rng as before lol

[neon pebble]

Nuh uh, I clicked a button before. Now I gotta do some crap content

[candid phoenix]

fastest way: drop a double upgraded double mythic weapon 💀
Slowest but reasonble way:
Drop weapon with Annihilation upgrade "First instance of damage is increased by 30%," use weapon in forging & pray
Drop weapon with Syncopation upgrade "Powerful rounds etc.." use in weapon forging and 100% added upgrade
Drop weapon with Syncopation upgrade "Damage ratio of third high damage round is increased by 160%," use in weapon forging & pray

If you drop any weapon with both upgrades on either Annihilation or Syncopation, you can add it to original weapon at 100% success rate

[slow sable]

That means destiny rising became a true looter shooter rather than a mindless speedrun lol

[neon pebble]

Ok, so just find what I am missing with RNG and then RNG some more to hope it transfers?

[candid phoenix]

yeah pretty much, rng is the true endgame

[neon pebble]

It was sold to me as a shooter gacha not a shooter looter

[slow sable]

But here a tip if you pick challenge again after doing a strike or blitz u get que in the old ones so you could speed run still if you want

[twilit thistle]

21428 25325: also! If you try to stack them. 18997 @indigo solar

[slow sable]

The rewards is from what you pick

[candid phoenix]

Remember though, when we unlock 5 star weapon drop they have higher odds of being level 5 and having double perk upgraes

[bleak pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-destiny-rising-wolf-destiny-orange-justice-gif-11383825129978759970

[slow sable]

So random blitz or strike with keeping your wish wep drop

[bold fog]

y nourishing pact 1 if 2 already heals?

[neon pebble]

Soooo more or less, everything new is a waste of time until we are done phasing? Sounds like yall are grinding hard for half the rewards we can get later

[sullen depot]

many many heals

[neon pebble]

Arti dont even pass lvl 80s yet

[slow sable]

I mean i love grinding so much three day into the week i hit max exp cap

[neon pebble]

I get it, slow phase so old stuff is still relevant for a bit. Same time though, we need all the new stuff and time gating it isnt good

[candid phoenix]

Mostly yes, but also you can just upgrade the star levels to catch up anyways. Also if you're luck is awful then you're still gonna have a rough time with 5 stars

[neon pebble]

Dang dude, grind for me

[sullen depot]

3 star arti are much better than 80 so if that drops ur also set

[candid phoenix]

The game honestly just feels like launch, remember how long we were stuck with purple weapons? 🤢

[bold fog]

wouldn't u want dmg reduc AND heals not 2x heals?

[neon pebble]

I thought it was 5 or bust, been recycling

[sullen depot]

if u want damage reduction use nimble ground instead

[twilit thistle]

How long is the cd

[sullen depot]

nah 3 stars are bbetter

[neon pebble]

Lol I remember people crying Eclipse was 35k recco power and we were server capped at 25k for the first day 🤣 was most fun I had in DR, running overpowered raids. Fights felt like fights, not 10 secs and done.

[slow sable]

Pop your playlist and get in the zone

[sullen depot]

was able to easily pass lvl 50 expanse with it

[neon pebble]

Playlist?

[slow sable]

Music playlist

[vast arch]

I hit this yesterday afternoon 😭

[sullen depot]

says 10 secs cd there

[sullen depot]

lol me and u both

[bold fog]

alright
does "moving" count lunge abilities/super swing?
does kills moving on the ground count the lunge?

[candid phoenix]

right? the way they slowed us down during launch is just how i'm treating this whole season phase thing. I know we'll eventually have stupidly overpowered weapons, but i'm just enjoying the ride until we get there

[neon pebble]

That aint me im sorry, i dont do music that often it lags my 4g phone internet

[slow sable]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-jump-onit-dance-happy-gif-1546092782214534122

[twilit thistle]

I meant for 2 summons (Ning).

[slow sable]

Tv?

[sullen depot]

if you are talking about nimble ground, it needs a mobility spell and both nings signature abities are mobility spells

[neon pebble]

Im trying hard to feel it out and understand new systems, I dont want to waste time grinding wrong things or bad stuff

[neon pebble]

I have kids, good luck on that.

[sullen depot]

i dont think it matters for two summons, cuz the cd is always 10sec flat regardless. so u will need to space out ur summons every 10 secs if u wanna make good use of this on ning

[candid phoenix]

I'm going for long term gains here, with weapons if i drop a better starred weapon later on i can just transfer my double upgraded perks over to that weapon so i'm not pressed on that, artifacts i'm just looking for really good base stats to keep for future

[slow sable]

I still dont understand how rampaging pact works on efrideet how does a spear counts as a summon?

[sullen depot]

weird thingws counts as summons in this game

[bold fog]

ty
this is a looot for me to refarm

[slow sable]

Then again i do use explosive shell on wolf cause it buff impact shinka damage with full charge smart bomb lol

[neon pebble]

Think you mixed up with Veil.

[twilit thistle]

Doesn’t have to be a summon, but I get ur point. Depends on the stage. I run that and the other one for slot 2 that heals for movement abilities on hunters (when I need).

[sullen depot]

oh oops u right. i meant Nimble Veil

[slow sable]

Btw farm stage 3 in cordon impact and rapid to farm stone and mythic gems to increase your power level if anyone was curious about these

[river vigil]

I guess I'll leave chaos after I cook some Ramen and solo queue with efrideet 😹

[sharp talon]

damn just did spread 50

[sullen depot]

nourishing pact is just better at that point tho cuz u dont have to worry about an cd timer

[sharp talon]

why is ikora so squishy now

[slow sable]

Higher cordon stage has better chances but stage 3 easy lol

[sullen depot]

brotha ur at expanse 50. what did u expect lol

[slow sable]

Also impact and rapid is fulminator easy strike

[neon pebble]

Does it need to be T6?

[sage nymph]

now nobody can do stage 60 rapid fire right? 💀

[sullen depot]

aaah i jsut need one 3 star artifact for ikora and one for jaren and i will have completed for 3 characters

[slow sable]

Ikora probably 86-89k doing 100kplus content when your 10k below or more the damage you do is low and the damage enemies does is high

[tough burrow]

How much money does it take to t6 someone?

[slow sable]

No idea i have courageous planetesimal on her but i seen people run it

[neon pebble]

Omg guys seriously, anyone got a max T6 efri to compare for me? She will be a junk lightbearer soon if I am right

[slow sable]

About $100 is roughly how much i spent for ikora t6

Also depend on your rng but my rng sucks

[candid phoenix]

if you're the luckiest person in existence and get all 7 copies in one 10 pull ~$15

[sullen depot]

i meant nimble veil and not nimble ground btw

[neon pebble]

Efri wpn mastery does FLAT dmg. Thats bad. New weapons new power caps higher dmg more buffs and efri is doing flat. Meanwhile majority of other lightbearers deal % based dmg...

[slow sable]

I got lucky with efrideet and t3 her at 70 pulls

[worn lotus]

What artifacts do you use on Estella?

[tough burrow]

I’m just curious because I want the new person to t6 but idk on how much it would cost

[slow sable]

But ikora….took all 60 4 times 5th 30 pulls 6th 40 pulls

[twilit thistle]

Depends on the stage. Also with stacking, it gets ridiculous bc the other one also adds a %, with hunters that’s twice. At full health. Most of if not all the time nimble veil is just better, bc it’s more health (is how Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN] explained it)

[bold fog]

hard pass
that's only 3 seconds

[sage nymph]

around 250pulls to get t6, max 300 so probably 200€ ?

[sullen depot]

both ning signature are mobility. nimble veil is always up runtime basically if u space it well. especially if u have t1 ning

[neon pebble]

@indigo solar bro please tell me something will make efri wpn mastery good

[neon pebble]

Why you gettin shot more than once?

[sullen depot]

yeah i think imma switch to nimble veil now as dmg reduction is more necessary since already have healing veil

[bold fog]

i have t1 ning yes
but healing veil heals on abil
and nimble ground is perma resist
resist only for 3s sounds worse than resolute

[slow ridge]

[neon pebble]

My ning use this + veil 🤫

[white yew]

crim with arc, sig, and damage bonus boost

[sharp talon]

healing plasma op

[neon pebble]

Whats crim

[broken plank]

If I wanted to create my own clan, do I have to have so many ppl to be in a party or anything?

[slow ridge]

[slow sable]

Spear spear crimson rapid fire dash shoot dash spear shoot dash spear shoot dash lol is that simple

[twilit thistle]

Won’t save you from anything but red bar dregs 😂. Especially in overtime on the expanse. I usually switch between them so I can see what’s killing, bc u can’t easily track nimble veil.

[worn lotus]

I’d like to update my wishlist with Estella artifacts

[bleak pelican]

It will save you from anything but lucy...lucy is scary

[neon pebble]

Its not though. Because when you need the dmg resist it is too weak. You need big dmg resist to stop big numbers later in game. Practice sprint>slide>jump>double jump>slide>slide>repeat. Will dodge majority of shots. You shouldnt be getting hit while moving is the issue with nimble ground. Veil gives you 3 seconds to breathe and dps or regroup

[sharp talon]

buff tan 2

[rain plinth]

I just got invited to a run of Menace Above and I'm just sitting here like "NO YOU CAN'T MAKE ME GO BACK"

[bleak pelican]

buff tan 2 as this is my tower now

[white yew]

crimson

[white yew]

cause her lighting arcs deal static arc damage

[neon pebble]

Ok so when everything dmg creeps later her wpn mastery will keep up? 🙏

[twilit thistle]

I originally started using it for shifting gates, so yes. Fun fact it can’t tank an opposing Umekos super, and u can kill them with your super.

[white yew]

so her best option for dps is a fast firing weapon i.e crimson or cloudstrike if its good

[slow sable]

Oh crimson icon change no longer features the blood on the barrel huh guess the censorship strong

[white yew]

honestly im worried it doesnt unless our artifacts get really strong

[neon pebble]

Whats that rapid fire mythic sniper? Slap some new fire rate mods on it. What was it? Magoichi?

[bold fog]

for nimble ground it counts shimmying, so you have perma invis while moving or shooting
nimble veil works while moving but it doesn't help during super or heavy dump which are longer than 3s

[bleak pelican]

umeko is my -

[sharp talon]

buff crimson fire rate please

[white yew]

sidereal. and also it feels really bad cause her damage is bad on it

[neon pebble]

Thats my speculation. Flat dmg doesnt keep up like %. Flat is easy creeped, look what just happened to all the 4starsz espec attal nerf

[white yew]

its 660 rpm with efri buff

[sharp talon]

im using it on jaren lol

[neon pebble]

You arnt getting shot every .2 seconds 😭

[twilit thistle]

I still miss the intense sg matches from s1 and 3/4 of season 2 😭 I was getting so good with Umeko

[slow sable]

Use efrideet dash what they need to do is fix crimson jamming bug where when u empty a clip it doesnt reload like the wep jam

[neon pebble]

She like Rossi. She needs that arc substat for the wpn mastery.

[white yew]

i forgot ur doing rapid with jaren

[bold fog]

what?

[white yew]

thats probably why i like playing her

[slow sable]

Dash foward and back stay in line of sight play with a controller lol

[white yew]

ik shes probably gonna be terrible after the next character

but idc im happy i get to use crimson and deal more damage than most people using heavy

[neon pebble]

@karmic chasm also loves her and mains her now. I havnt been able to pull her yet, I came back and hopped on new ikora

My real passion is finally tuning up a SMG and that makes Ning/Jolder ma main men

[slow sable]

I might think of using ring of conversion on efrideet since crimson heal proc works

[bleak pelican]

crimson mains

[neon pebble]

Im tryn to push Nings SMG to 2000 fire rate with Time Marches On perk for triple shots

[slow sable]

I use a mix of old perfect and crimson just to deal with solar and im not paying $120 to max out last word lol

[bleak pelican]

nah just wait for cloudstrike my g

3 more days

[white yew]

i wouldnt trust cloudstrike

[bleak pelican]

skill issue

[white yew]

not skill issue its more of if the gun is bad then its right back to crimson

[neon pebble]

Yall maxin out pack rewards?

[sage nymph]

will be her bis ! trust !!!!

[bleak pelican]

won't be bad, again, skill issue

[neon pebble]

Nah, snipers blow chunks

Heavy ammo eaters

Better to run a mythic with mods boosting primary crimson

[steep pawn]

I want to join the content creator program.

[white yew]

tbf im using all my pack stam but we only got 13 people

[bleak pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[white yew]

crim does like 30k a shot with that exotic mods

its actually goofy

[neon pebble]

You want 100% uptime on dps not some boss slop, HH wrecks boss alrdy for you. You are AD clear mister AoE lightning javelin

[bleak pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

all u efrideet haters need to do this

[vast arch]

You want highest DPS possible to kill bosses faster

[neon pebble]

Omg Efri uses lightning jarvis 🤣

[slow sable]

https://tenor.com/view/sami-glitch-sami-caddiesmooth-julian-titan-gif-15813462

[white yew]

so crimson?

[steep pawn]

I want to join the content creator program.

[neon pebble]

Thats crazy good. Whats 3rd boosted shot do?

[twilit thistle]

🤔 and the fastest unstuck

[vast arch]

What's the DPS on crimson in practice?

[bleak pelican]

oh my gosh don asked the question

[sharp talon]

crimson op

[bleak pelican]

don, let em figure out the meta in 3 days

[steep pawn]

I want to join the content creator program.

[bleak pelican]

it's all good, i don't want it being leaked early

[slow sable]

Check the website not type it in main chat i guess or spam it

[bleak pelican]

it'll slowly come to light in the next few days

[elder wing]

Good for you bud

[vast arch]

Search for the application in #server-news

[neon pebble]

@white yew and I bend the meta rules. Rules dont apply to Rossi

[bleak pelican]

[vast arch]

someone tell me the actual damage per second per second of crimson on efrideet please

[slow sable]

Give me a second

[elder wing]

Just upgrade them all as I did.. just waiting for the sniper

[bleak pelican]

god i love don, best senior mod ever

[white yew]

im on my jaren rn for chaos 1 sec

[vast arch]

love it when people say DPS per second

[balmy raft]

2

[bleak pelican]

truly gigabrained

[obtuse chasm]

This has been driving me insane 😭

[white yew]

elite combantant or shinka?

[bleak pelican]

elite

[white yew]

no abilities?

[bleak pelican]

just crimson

[vast arch]

both

[white yew]

292270 in 1 mag

[vast arch]

tech

[white yew]

which is 2.5 seconds

just an fyi with just sigs my crimson does 2.56m in 10 seconds

my ult does this

[bleak pelican]

this with efri dodge?

[white yew]

no dodge

just gun

[bleak pelican]

k now do continuous dodge and fire until u can't anymore so i can know the dps

try not to miss your crits kek

[white yew]

1.85m in 9.3 seconds

[bleak pelican]

dps?

[white yew]

185k

[karmic chasm]

She plays a lot like my D2 Hunter, only javelin throw instead of melee. I love gathering storm

[neon pebble]

Rossis of DR unite!!!!

[bleak pelican]

185k with efrideet dodge and crimson???

[frozen tree]

Finally got my wolf artifacts done. What auto rifle should I use? I’m thinking the newer void one so I can hit void shields, but I could also go with the arc one to stack with my arc boost artifacts and actually get decent damage on my primary

[white yew]

yes

[bleak pelican]

hmm...

[vast arch]

sorry just gotta flex this rq

[elder wing]

Math aint mathing

[frozen tree]

That is legendary

[sharp talon]

ive been using the void and solar ones but i heard the arc one is good havent tried it tho

[white yew]

this current attempt i did 202k dps

[sullen depot]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-kid-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-16045257244806990422

[slow sable]

.>

[bleak pelican]

ima show u something goofy in a sec

[elder wing]

Ngl you need to get the aim straight lol

[frozen tree]

Ill try the void one first, since I do wanna hit all shield types on wolf

[twilit thistle]

Does that mean the rng system also views barrier bonus as bad 🤔

[vast arch]

DPS will be lower when you throw in dodges because you can't shot while you're dodging

[neon pebble]

Servitor turnz

[slow sable]

Oh the dam stats lol

[obtuse chasm]

If we’re talking single target, new bp hc clears, anything else is crimson

[elder wing]

Gotta place it in the far back always works for me

[bleak pelican]

lemme join ya rq

[white yew]

ig so

[sullen depot]

depends on the character using while farming chaos

[neon pebble]

Not for me because weapons have an effective range and I dont test with dmg falloff 😭

[white yew]

wait do u care ab max dps or just overall dps

[vast arch]

This is the point I was trying to make. Crimson won't be able to compete in a DPS scenario like a boss encounter

[bleak pelican]

just overall but you'll see what i mean

[bleak pelican]

exactly

now for folks who wanted to see the new hand cannon btw

[frozen tree]

I think it’s neat how crimson and new bp handcannon are very close in viability and it changes based on activity

[elder wing]

That why I said max them all…

[sullen depot]

crimson is the fun roaming buiild . boss ecounter prolly going to be cloudstrike

[bleak pelican]

should be way higher once i get the 3rd cat upgrade done

[slow sable]

Crimson add clear till eternal death bosses/ single target

[bleak pelican]

correct

[white yew]

doesnt that gun boost skill damage?

[frozen tree]

Also what mythic sniper is everyone using on efrideet? I’ve been using my magoichi from pre season 4 but it doesn’t seem to be packing as much of a punch as it used to for some reason

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah 100%

[bleak pelican]

i need to get this cause it's literally a cloudstrike hand cannon

[elder wing]

2 spears dodge and cloudstrike that thing… it will go crazy

[slow sable]

Tatara gaze from bullwark but now drops in shifting gates

[bleak pelican]

does anyone want me to redo this with adding in a javelin for more dps

[river vigil]

it only cost 1000 silver 😹

[bleak pelican]

just jav and dodge with the hand cannon

[twilit thistle]

I wish that impacted rng. Only things I know did before is your daily time spent in game (and if it went down the day before), the device you are on, what rewards you get, and if you start the game on defense in your first shadowshaper match of the day

Edit: also what times you do claim rewards can impact but this could just be part of the time you played going down

[white yew]

yeah see on paper that seems really good but im pretty sure in true dps combo you would actually be doing less dps cause ur gonna use ur sniper for front loaded damage

[obtuse chasm]

Solar is bis atm

[elder wing]

??

[frozen tree]

Ok I ain’t touching shifting gates I’m gonna need an alternative

[bleak pelican]

well of course, the test was just crimson vs anything else in the primary slot fam

that's the main point don was getting at

[sharp talon]

legendary campaign with the glitch rn

[river vigil]

to get cb3 I had to buy the last 10 levels unless you want to wait until next week

[bleak pelican]

when u ain't got heavy yo primary is yo best friend

[sage nymph]

Engram

[candid phoenix]

shifting gates selected weapon gets focused in legendary campaign

[bleak pelican]

ima redo the test adding in javelins and das it

[frozen tree]

Woah really? I gotta hop on that now

[slow sable]

Idc about bis lol i like the aesthetic of it lol play the game how you fit to your liking :3

[elder wing]

Yeah but that cost 3k leavs not silver

[crimson crown]

shinkas aside: is there any way a t6 xuan wei is better than a t0 hairkora

[river vigil]

I'm ngl I only have leaves at the end of a season before a new character releases 😹

[slow sable]

Punch everything?

[elder wing]

Lmao fair

[twilit thistle]

(Spoiler: ||it’s extremely hard and has numerous logic gates and layers that prevent you from exploiting it|| )

[obtuse chasm]

The question wasn’t what you prefer, the question was what is everyone using because magoichi is slacking for him. I enjoy tartara as well in terms of aesthetics

[bleak pelican]

'Til Eternal Death DPS Test 2 with Javelins, Dodge, and Rampaging Pact w Undaunted Spiral

Catalyst is 2/3 Efrideet is t2

[river vigil]

I'm mostly running tatara but thats because I put arc damage on my artifacts. I'm pretty sure all 3 magoichi, tatara, and 40k are all being used atm

[white yew]

i wish my serv kept looking at me

and didnt walk away while blind

[bleak pelican]

enjoy my 3440x1440 ratio

[candid phoenix]

damn this is the worst base stats i've gotten

[obtuse chasm]

Even with arc damage boost I still do more with solar sniper tbh

[slow sable]

They ask “what mythical sniper are you using on efrideet” and i answer with tatara gaze

[bleak pelican]

...

[bitter estuary]

balls

8 hours left till maintenance

[river vigil]

what is that 😹

also why cant I ever get rolls like that for damage testing

[polar summit]

Graphics looks insane, dmg test otherwise it’s very bad xD

[candid phoenix]

did that go to your mail

[obtuse chasm]

They’re wanting more damage, Tartara is not going to be any better then magoichi other then maybe because of the arc damage boost, there’s question implied what was better but doesn’t matter, as you said run what you like

[crimson crown]

ok i need an impact character:
t6 xuan wei or t0 gwynn

[bleak pelican]

not very bad, underwhelming due to its actual dps being locked behind the final upgrade kek

[river vigil]

Ikora the hidden

[sullen depot]

XUAN WEI

[obtuse chasm]

Ikora #1 impact

[crimson crown]

as an ikora noob, are you srs or joking

i don't know the kora strats

[slow sable]

I wasnt saying its better i was answering that i use tatara lol the question can also implied the various sniper and option they have to decide and choose what feels right lol

[river vigil]

there are 2 classes in destiny rising, piercing with crimson and spread characters

[candid phoenix]

@obtuse chasm when u got a sec can you check your dm's i have a build question for efri

[obtuse chasm]

For regular content sure, but cordon and expanse pushes? No

[bleak pelican]

what i find very upsetting is that no matter what character drops, the ikora and jaren mains will always dogwater on everything for the love of the game

[obtuse chasm]

Got you, driving rn but I’ll check it in a sec

[bleak pelican]

Hai Wanderer

are you texting and driving yet again...

https://tenor.com/view/what-did-i-tell-you-cartman-south-park-i-told-you-guys-what-did-i-say-gif-20785748

[candid phoenix]

people hated ikora on her release 💀

[sullen depot]

let me tell you about my lord and savior Helhest

[bleak pelican]

then they found out about t6

[obtuse chasm]

Hey that’s me

[candid phoenix]

exactly

[neon pebble]

Do Jaren

[bleak pelican]

You made it to the big leagues

[bleak pelican]

think my jaren is t4 lemme check

nvm t2

oh, i thought u said jolder

my jaren is nonexistent as i skipped her

[white yew]

67 tech

[bleak pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/goodfellas-laugh-liotta-gif-13856770980338154376

[twilit thistle]

Best place to stand and fish in haven

[white yew]

watch them rug pull and nerf that

[obtuse chasm]

“Her”

[bleak pelican]

oh shee u right homie mb haven't touched the game since they dropped

[obtuse chasm]

If they nerf ikora before hellhest the community would be outraged

[river vigil]

all of my limited and event characters are T6 but ngl I dont think I ever used estella outside of chaos for her character quest

[bleak pelican]

i can upmost guarantee u tan-2 is getting nerfed

[neon pebble]

No one uses TLW on Efri?

[bleak pelican]

surprised no one found out bout the "Afterglow" talent bug yet

[obtuse chasm]

Tan-2 t6 is goated tbh I need to show him more love he’s my only non t6

[bleak pelican]

[bitter estuary]

balls

[white yew]

tbf that isnt intentional tho vs helhest being op cause the game said so

[bleak pelican]

this is doing 5x more than it should be in a specific scenario if u can figure it out btw

good luck community u all hate Tan-2 anyways so just forget about it and move on

[polar summit]

Tbh all mythic snipers sucks, they all need like 5-6 shots to break a single shinka in expanse 40+ while helhest can break shinkas with 2 shots on 70+

[bleak pelican]

i can say a single sentence and anyone who knows what im talking about will know who helhest really is

Helhest is The First Descendant Serena of Destiny Rising

[candid phoenix]

i don't even have this talent 😭

[neon pebble]

Yeah game just rewrote so hopefully HH isnt as prominent. Also I heard Rossi super is getting fixed tomorrow?

[obtuse chasm]

I mean that’s true, but intentional or not the community has been asking for a hellhest nerf, and no one has said anything about an ikora nerf, if they ignore the community and do their own thing that doesn’t help their current situation

[twilit thistle]

👀 I wonder what the max season lvl is, and if its based on the cap per week or if it has a hard cap

[river vigil]

when do we get gley in destiny rising 😹

[bleak pelican]

tfd player found

[neon pebble]

90 🤣

[bleak pelican]

bro they nerfed gley's "build" to the ground on that update bro bro

[river vigil]

I want a big ball of health that walks into a room with an smg and melts everything

true

[bleak pelican]

i was so pissed when they reworked gley just to kill the build

3 days into the damn update

[twilit thistle]

shows 104 before cutoff for me bc im lvl 54

[cyan tide]

I think it goes up to like 200, 100 unlocks the iron commander bonuses

[river vigil]

I need to hit level 200 so my iron commander can be 30 minutes

[vast arch]

Who will be our Ultimate Luna or Ajax then?

[neon pebble]

Hey whats the new fire rate mods cap at?

[bleak pelican]

wait a damn minute

WAIT A MINUTE

[neon pebble]

I can hit 95% increase rate of fire with 900 fire rate solar smg

[bleak pelican]

@vast arch do u know someone named...pencils

there's no shot you're the exact same fella from that server dawg

[vast arch]

doesn't ring a bell

[bleak pelican]

ima see somethin rq cause either u were in the tfd discord before or someone had a name very close to yours

[vast arch]

I only have one name and it's the same everywhere

[thorny frost]

To max out all the nodes in Enamer (assuming one of the tiefling item per level) we need over 300 levels.

[slow sable]

How an adept wep look

[bleak pelican]

ah ye u were last there in august 2025

i knew i recognized your name from there tho

[rotund flame]

Dang and here i thought i was at a high level with 45 lol

[vast arch]

what server was this?

[bleak pelican]

the first descendant discord server

[river vigil]

There was a chance for me to make one last night, then all 4 of the perk upgrade chances failed 😹

[vast arch]

I'm still in there tho

[bleak pelican]

ye i was sayin the last message i saw from u was in last august

[slow sable]

Ouch

[vast arch]

ahhh

[thorny frost]

From the max we can get during phase 2 we need 112 of the trifling items per section (if I counted correctly) so that is 336 more levels for the board from where we are currently at.

[rotund flame]

So glad i grinded this before season 4. Would have been a nightmare lol

[river vigil]

I'll just pull another allnighter in the legendary campaign mines and hope I get the right enhanced perks to drop again

[sharp talon]

i give up on the weapon grind in s4 tbh

[summer kite]

Sweet, my T2 Efrideet kept up with a T6 one. I did 48.38% dam in a strike and they did 49.36% 😮

[sharp talon]

my thermo will never be adept 😢

[rotund flame]

Funny enough most of my weapons back then just naturally dropped with double perks . Only a few weapons i actually had to grind for

[river vigil]

the weapon farm will be easier in phase V and at reward tier 10

[vast arch]

y'all what the hell am i doing here

[bleak pelican]

go to bed

[vast arch]

i dont have a bed

[river vigil]

you are doing what I want to do but I need to farm a better sniper XD

[fallow mirage]

did they delete crota's end from the game?

[river vigil]

its vaulted for now

[fallow mirage]

wtf

ur telling me they didn't learn from bungie's content "vaulting" stint?

[vast arch]

it's not deleted, we just can't play it rn

it still exists

[sharp talon]

it shows locked on fire team finder

[fallow mirage]

that's what they always say until it's like 3 months later and no signs of coming back

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-played-these-games-before-seong-gi-hun-squid-game-i've-played-these-games-already-netflix-gif-16480153790313233198

[river vigil]

they will bring it back eventually

[bleak pelican]

noice, got the roll i was looking to enjoy

[fallow mirage]

if they were planning on just bringing it back anyways, they shoulnd't have vaulted it

[bleak pelican]

now to upgrade this fella overtime

[river vigil]

I want to try out that roll but I'll probably end up sticking with cornucopia horror's metabolism

[obtuse chasm]

I can tell some of you didn’t run 100+ crotas a day since it dropped 😔 so tired of that raid

[candid phoenix]

adepts are pretty in your inventory too, their icon has a golden border

[bleak pelican]

fire

[obtuse chasm]

I’d get off of work, breath, hop on the game and be spammed with invites for speedruns, that raid was exhausting I don’t ever want to do another abyss or bridge ever again

That being said thats a selfish reason, the true reason is because we don’t even have enough people to fill a 3 man queue

[fallow mirage]

bruh I ran that raid like twice. Once on contest mod and once on normal

[obtuse chasm]

What server? From what I heard NA is a lot different and other servers queues where supperrrr dead

[fallow mirage]

on NA. It wasn't super dead back then when it came out, but idk about now

been getting a lot more bots now

[true stratus]

What’s the deal on all my characters losing there gold medals?

[obtuse chasm]

What’s your ign bruh? I used to post carry’s and ask for +1’s in casual daily

Should’ve hopped in with us 😔

[fallow mirage]

I quit the game after finishing contest mode, I only came back for contest mode crota anyways

[obtuse chasm]

I assume you’re referring to acclaim? There’s a new system and it’s been reset

[fallow mirage]

if I was still playing, I'd have ran Crota more

[true stratus]

It’s OK for people that don’t have jobs or alive. I don’t have time to redo every damn thing.

[obtuse chasm]

I mean that’s valid lol

[obtuse chasm]

It takes like 2 seconds to redo?

All my old golds are gold again, and I work 8-12 hours a day 5 days a week at a mill

Don’t make excuses and get to grinding

[true stratus]

Guess I won’t play anymore. It was fun while it lasted

[fallow mirage]

what do the new gold medals even do now?

[true stratus]

Well, I drive a truck and work a heck of a lot more than that so hush

[vast arch]

Gold medal mean literally nothing

[obtuse chasm]

Truck driver and work in the same sentence?

Unless you’re going state to state you’re not working

[vast arch]

If anything they gave us some extra bright dust

[obtuse chasm]

Local drivers got it easy

[true stratus]

You’re a troll

[sharp talon]

not a lot tho

[fallow mirage]

I kinda don't like the new seasonal lockout. It's basically the acclaim time gate all over again

[sullen depot]

why is 6 afraid of 7? because.....(please laugh pleaseeeee) lol

[sharp talon]

what

bruh insane amount of chaos

[twilit thistle]

You cant redo this. It was removed. Also, look at what you got as compensation

[candid phoenix]

I'm really confused on why acclaim was so important to people, I'd understand like being upset that you missed out on the bright dust and bright pigment from hitting 117 but other than that like everyone had 117 so it stopped being prestigious

[obtuse chasm]

And you’re saying you’re going to quit because of a useless system that does little to nothing if it’s reset or not

[twilit thistle]

You got decals

[cyan tide]

Does anyone know if max base score will be necessary to reach tier 10 attributes on level 90 artifacts? Or is it like before season 4 where at level 90 there was some leeway

[vast arch]

you beat me

[obtuse chasm]

Exactly, it did nothing for you past 60, yet people felt the need to push 117 and are mad about it

[sharp talon]

330 for t10 360 absolute max iirc

[crimson crown]

is t1 hairkora a must have? considering just going for it since i feel all characters t1s are pretty juicy

[sharp talon]

ye ikora t1 is pretty good

[candid phoenix]

it gives her extra ability charges and that's really nice

[sullen depot]

chaos farm was worth it today

[obtuse chasm]

T7 ikora is the true method

[vast arch]

this is also false, driving a truck is work lmao

[fallow mirage]

It wasn't important to me, but rather maxing out the acclaim level gave me max loot drops. Now, the seasonal phase system replaced it and I'm back down to the lowest tier of rewards. I don't like that I have to regrind to get proper rewards now

[crimson crown]

thanks team

[rain plinth]

2 Mahamayuris down, 2 to go yippee

[obtuse chasm]

Depends on exactly what it is your hauling

[candid phoenix]

we're not at the lowest tier of drops tho

[vast arch]

have you driven a truck?

[candid phoenix]

we're literally at the same tier of drops, it just goes far further than ever existed in the system before

[fallow mirage]

it certainly feels that way when you look at the loot tiers tho

[cyan tide]

So what's the minimum base score needed to reach tier 10? Assuming max refactor score of course

[obtuse chasm]

Nope but worked at plenty of different types of mills so been around plenty, they’ll tell you themselves it’s an easy paycheck only “hard” part about it is the lack of sleep physically it’s not hard

[rotund flame]

Dumb question but when is the new raid going to be released? Next week?

[fallow mirage]

it's psychological. Why would I grind now when I could instead wait like 8 weeks for the seasonal timer to hit max, then I can grind when all the season phase is maxed?

[candid phoenix]

the drop rate from acclaim back in the day only raised the percentage at which you'd obtain rewards, for example exotic artifacts went from like 8% to like 10% (later buffed to i think 13%) from a chest. Our drop rate now in a chest is 32%

[true stratus]

Troll

[vast arch]

Well driving a tractor trailer takes a lot more than just that, especially if your driving on city streets

[fallow mirage]

@candid phoenix

[obtuse chasm]

That’s why I said it depends on what you’re hauling

[sullen depot]

165 at 5 star artifact. 165 * 200% gives 330

[true stratus]

I drive 3500 miles a week. It’s a lot of work.

[vast arch]

(330 - 180) / 4 = 37.5 or 150

[candid phoenix]

Then wait 🤷 I'm still pushing expanse and having fun with my current items. Farming weapon perk upgrades, artifact base stats, and artifactual essense all have no bearing on the phase system

[vast arch]

what do you drive?

[true stratus]

53 foot reefer trailer

[fallow mirage]

that's not a good system tho. This model encourages players to just not play for most of the season

[candid phoenix]

I just pointed out major goals that aren't gated by the phase system at all

[sharp talon]

i like the 'weekly' power system we have for a bit

[vast arch]

nice! intrastate mostly?

[indigo solar]

Which mod

[twilit thistle]

🤔 im okay with this

[twilit thistle]

The one we talked about earlier that boosts primary dmg

[true stratus]

Mostly but I like us highways more

[obtuse chasm]

I mean you could wait, but why? It’s like saying I’ll still get paid if I do the work at the end of the time, but in reality you will have to play catch up then compared to getting ahead now?

[indigo solar]

Ah

[candid phoenix]

Base stats aren't affected by the stars at which artifacts drop, Refactoring artifacts isn't affected by stars or phase limits and will be needed no matter what, If i get a better weapon star rating later i can literally just transfer my perk upgrades for 3000 glimmer and 10 mythic weapon parts

[fallow mirage]

well rn, it just feels like wasted effort

[indigo solar]

Eh

[obtuse chasm]

I get that, but what’s wasted?

[fallow mirage]

time

[obtuse chasm]

Your time would just be wasted later playing catch up tho

[fallow mirage]

it'll be wasted significantly less because I'll have higher tier rewards supposedly

[obtuse chasm]

Not really, all you need is grolls then you can kick back till the final update if you wish

My efrideet and ikora are fully built if I didn’t want to enjoy the raid I could wait till phase5

No time wasted

[fallow mirage]

also, I don't like the star tier lockout. It's silly that they locked power upgrades behind time gates. It wasn't fun the first time around, and it's not fun the second time around

my level 80 artifacts are better than my level 90 artifacts because I can't level up any of the random perks

where's the logic behind that?

[obtuse chasm]

75k to hypothetically 100K+ is a big jump and would put newer players or returning players at a huge disadvantage if there was no phase lock

[sullen depot]

ur lvl 80 artifacts are not beter than lvl 90 3 star artifacts

[fallow mirage]

well, I don't have 3 star level 90 artifacts because those are time gated for another 3 4 days

[sullen depot]

u can get those rn lol

[sharp talon]

they already drop

[spiral shell]

https://tenor.com/view/pfft-trying-not-to-laugh-laughing-holding-laugh-covering-laugh-gif-10899551814881068905

[obtuse chasm]

And that’s if they were at 75k, the average player pre update was 71-73k

[obtuse chasm]

3 stars drop now?

[fallow mirage]

from what?

[sharp talon]

chaos

[obtuse chasm]

Chaos

[sharp talon]

or expanse

[sullen depot]

man said time gated for another 4 days lol

[sharp talon]

how many sets have u completed given the amount of chaos u ran?

[fallow mirage]

so then wtf does this mean?

[obtuse chasm]

88k 👀

[sharp talon]

this is the current phase

[obtuse chasm]

We will have level 4 arts on next phase

Art drop is bugged I think

[sharp talon]

artifact drop star tier cap: 3 stars

[sullen depot]

@sharp talon

[fallow mirage]

wait why can't I ugprade my 2 stars to 3 stars?

[candid phoenix]

I've gotten 3 star artis today

[obtuse chasm]

That’s the only restriction

[sharp talon]

dammnnn

[obtuse chasm]

But that’s a valid restriction seeing as it respects your time and furthers your point

[fallow mirage]

that's mega dumb

[obtuse chasm]

Fam this is the reason why that’s a thing

Imagine a player that quit at 71k coming back to the game full of 100k+

[fallow mirage]

so you're telling me I gotta regrind a 3 star artifact with the exact perks my current one has?

[sharp talon]

with th e transfer system the perks are not hard to get

[oak kettle]

Starting next phase it’ll be 4 star drops, 3 star upgrade

[candid phoenix]

unless you're me

[obtuse chasm]

The new system is a 100% upgrade from the old one groll arts are cheese

[sullen depot]

🤫 🙂‍↕️

[oak kettle]

Then 5 star drops, 4 star upgrade

[fallow mirage]

it's literally the acclaim level timegate all over again

[oak kettle]

Then I hope it’ll end on upgrade to 5 star too

Should do

[sharp talon]

its not really comparable to that tho

[fallow mirage]

I can't wait to do this next season all over again with level 100 artifacts

[oak kettle]

Point is you can grind a drop a Season Phase early if you want to powermax asap

[obtuse chasm]

I doubt they’ll do it again because of the backlash it’s just that they reworked the entire art system

[oak kettle]

Or you can be patient and get to max over time

[obtuse chasm]

Hence the locking of old arts

[sharp talon]

there is an option in the menu to filter by level 100 artifacts...

at some point we will probably get them

[obtuse chasm]

I’m referring to level locking them

[twilit thistle]

I like to imagine that ill actually find you in here (and give you a nice friendly poke || with total lockdown||. These stages are soooooo slow. I almost wish i had picked the weaker one. Adept is broken 😭 i hope they fix that tomorrow. Im not used to speedrunning these.

[fallow mirage]

idk why they don't let us upgrade the levels of old artifacts anyways

silly restriction

[sharp talon]

there will be nothing to do in the game except adept weapons atp

[obtuse chasm]

Puts everyone on an equal playing field

Compared to the vets who have grolls for every character already

Gives people something to do and new players the opportunity to participate without being 50% less in damage

[oak kettle]

Cus Theres fundamental differences between how the old and new artifacts work - it’s a lot simpler to phase the old ones out with a level restriction instead of letting them stick around or rebuilding them and hoping nothing goes wrong

[obtuse chasm]

Someone brought up a point awhile back I think it was tan, when you would level arts they rerolled one stat anyways so theoretically you would still need to grind them out again

[fallow mirage]

I never asked to be put on an equal playing field

[obtuse chasm]

It’s not about asking tho fam it’s about what’s fair to the majority of the community and what’s best for the game, if you just started playing and saw everyone already at 100k meanwhile you can’t find a single queue to even climb to said level how would you feel?

[balmy raft]

Skill issue

[fallow mirage]

who just started playing this game? Do we still get new players?

[candid phoenix]

i've been getting way more mentor tokens than i have since last season and i'm not even searching for new lights

[obtuse chasm]

I see new lights all the time in all honesty, a lot more then some people make it out to be

[fallow mirage]

also, what changed between the old artifact system and the new one? It basically looks the same except no more subclass restriction

and u can't equip the same arti on multiple ppl anymore

[obtuse chasm]

A lot

[candid phoenix]

randomly rolled base stats, for level 90 it goes up to 45 where 80s were at 30

[obtuse chasm]

I’m to tired to explain but the new system is better once you understand it

[candid phoenix]

Can fuse 2 artifacts and it will keep any matching attributes between the two and replace 1 non matching attribute with one from the artifact you selected as material

[bleak pelican]

i understand absolutely nothing

[fallow mirage]

doesn't seem that different when maxing out the rolls puts them both to tier 10 one way or another

also, wtf do these two tabs mean?

what's the difference?

[sullen depot]

man is complaining without even knowing anything of the new system

[obtuse chasm]

Huge difference

[karmic chasm]

EOS soon

Sorry I just wanted to doom post since I never get to

[sharp talon]

pc port when

[obtuse chasm]

I like you witch please don’t 😭

[karmic chasm]

I never get to doom post 🥀
I had to see what it felt like

[obtuse chasm]

Bro got an itch

It’s alr lol

[karmic chasm]

It is April 1st after all (for me)

[candid phoenix]

left one is attributes, right one is base stats. netease QA failure

[karmic chasm]

Bro my gf was so mean today with the April fools stuff bruh

[fallow mirage]

genuinely tho, I'm worried to spend anymore cash on this game cuz the estimated revenue drop off looks kinda crazy. I don't want netease to abandon this game if they deem it non-profitable

[obtuse chasm]

Should’ve shat in her car “april fools”

[karmic chasm]

Well yea I’m done spending. All my spending is kinda meaningless now 🥀
Except for what I spent pulling Kabr 2

[fallow mirage]

wait what does that mean?

[karmic chasm]

She lives on the other side of the planet currently

No car to speak of

We need voice notes on this server bruh

[obtuse chasm]

Long distance sucks 😔 should’ve mailed her an envelope with it in it instead

[karmic chasm]

Good idea

[obtuse chasm]

And if she got it late say it wasn’t you

[karmic chasm]

It does but she’s awesome

[forest atlas]

What is the Jezibaba god roll for Efrideet?

[twilit thistle]

Show me how its done ❤️‍🔥

[obtuse chasm]

Happy for you bro ❤️

[karmic chasm]

We both are gonna be doing masters and doctorate stuff so like it’s life

[fallow mirage]

why doesn't the second tab change anything?

[balmy raft]

diggin in my buh

[candid phoenix]

because they're both at max of 30

[karmic chasm]

I wanna play tonight but I have stuff to do 💀

Ima find a way to cram in some more strikes

[obtuse chasm]

Brother 30 is the max roll for 80’s 😭

[novel sable]

on a scale of 1-10 how "back" is the game after season 4

[cyan tide]

Both artifacts have the same base score. If you use a level 90 artifact you'll see that it will change the base score to all 30s

[karmic chasm]

Playerbase wise it seems bad, but the new content is really fun

[sharp talon]

idk it seems a lot ppl came back, it's in a better spot than b4

[candid phoenix]

if you take a second to learn the new systems it's great, however people don't read

[balmy raft]

5.5 they fixed a lot but there is obviously still a lot wrong

[fallow mirage]

so you're telling me that the left stat can roll at something below 30 and that if I combine artifacts with rolls like that on the second tab, it'll improve?

[sullen depot]

wwe dotn read around here

[novel sable]

alr yea thanks for being honest will not be returning

[karmic chasm]

Just like the jjk fandom

[candid phoenix]

if the left one has less than 30, and the right one has 30, it would overwrite the left one to have 30

[sullen depot]

we doom first and then read later lol

[obtuse chasm]

Nah just doom

Skip the reading

[obtuse chasm]

Side note: I still haven’t seen s3 I need to watch it already I heard it’s fire

[fallow mirage]

I think the new systems are a great improvement, but my only gripe is the timegated progression

that's never fun imo

[candid phoenix]

@fallow mirage I've got this god awful artifact with 35/36/36/36, if i got another artifact that was like 40/42/43/39 and wanted to keep the attributes from this artifact, i can use the second artifact to overwrite 35/36/36/36 into 40/42/43/39

[obtuse chasm]

That goes back to my original point fam, before it was pinnacle and power scaring players now a 100k gap is just massive and intimidating to new players

Makes them think it’s to late to jump into the game especially when server queues are bad

[sullen depot]

if there was no time gating pple will be complaining about nothing to do after no life grinding. destiny players dont touch grass lol

[fallow mirage]

that's a them problem. Rewards should be based on content difficulty, not based on time spent waiting

if u got dudes who play 12 hours a day and speed run the content, then wcyd

[sullen depot]

thats a them problem until all you see is "dead game nothing to do i quit"

[fallow mirage]

time gates aren't the solution for that either. That's just moving the metronome to the other end

[obtuse chasm]

In a solo player game this would hold merit, but in a mmo looter shooter keeping players around is a everyone problem

[obtuse chasm]

But like I said earlier what is the problem with it? If you genuinely don’t want to waste time get your 90 god rolls and kick back until phase 5

Then upgrade everything then

[twilit thistle]

Both of you have valid points. The solution to this is more content. More loot, and more activities. That way Jim has something to do when it’s time gated (preferably an activity that isn’t time gated), and ryoiki has endless chaos stages to farm, and also something to do when it’s the bad stages

[fallow mirage]

I mean, if I wait until phase 5 to play, then I probably won't play at all

[sullen depot]

well thats on u. ur choice

[limber pine]

3 days til raid like sheeeshh

[fallow mirage]

that's not a me thing either, I'm sure most ppl feel that way

[obtuse chasm]

That’s the thing you don’t have to and realistically there’s a lot more to do and new weapons to grind

[obtuse chasm]

Mostly the people mad about their old arts and that number is very few

[fallow mirage]

like is it crazy to think that if I wanna play rn, I should be able to play rn instead of being locked out of progression?

[limber pine]

I felt that way til I started the weapon grind. Now I'm 8 hours in and had 2 adepts that are the same gun. Yay

[obtuse chasm]

A lot of people are enjoying the changes to arts and willing to sacrifice their old ones

[obtuse chasm]

Your not locked out of progression you can farm grolls on arts then focus weapon grolls

[fallow mirage]

my old arts feel stronger than my new arts

[limber pine]

Ur not locked out. It doesn't exist yet lol

[sullen depot]

telling u. mans just waffling without even trying anything out

[fallow mirage]

exactly, the progression doesn't exist yet lol

[white yew]

i do know that unfortunately but cause of her shes made the game artifically harder cause they have designed content around Helhest solely existing but id rather have a intentionally design of a character being broken vs a bug in T6 allowing her to do damage that shouldnt be possible

[limber pine]

How can u progress thru if certain content hasn't released?

U should be preparing so ur not stuck playing the Hunt on easy mode with bots

[obtuse chasm]

If they introduced everything they did with no restrictions people would still complain just for other reasons

The locks give people with jobs time to catch up

[fallow mirage]

I mean, I've played like 2-3 hours every day since season dropped. How much more do I gotta experience before I'm allowed to have an opinion?

[obtuse chasm]

Gotta understand the systems your complaining about first fam

[tight talon]

+1 but then i still login daily cause pack stuff

[limber pine]

8-10 my guy 8-10 hours

[fallow mirage]

a day? lmao

[obtuse chasm]

Full time job 😭

[limber pine]

A hour.

[sullen depot]

played 2-3 hrs and didnt even know anything about the new artifact system. lol okay bud

[limber pine]

If u don't got 400k hours on DR by now stop talking chat. 🤣

[fallow mirage]

I just asked how the confusing headings are different. How does that equate to me not knowing what the artifact system does?
You just a mega elitist for no reason

[obtuse chasm]

I work to much I play like 4 hours a day 😔

[limber pine]

In 10k days hmu

[obtuse chasm]

Im GenArrows lol trust im valid 😭

You dmed me the other day tryna inv me to your pack

[limber pine]

https://tenor.com/view/green-lantern-john-stewart-gif-11522991122629662307

Yes I remember lol

[twilit thistle]

Yes, but you need to accept that sometimes you may be partially misled or confused. You don’t have to wait for anything. Everything is inflated, drop rates for artifacts especially. It’s up to like what 30%? If you still need help later I’m more than willing to help you get the hang of it all

[limber pine]

And we played in a raid vs the tabernaak with the 2phase 2try clear LOL

[fallow mirage]

I'm not worried about the drop rates. I like the drop rates. I don't like that I can't upgrade my artifacts past level 2

my new artis have good rolls on them, but they're garbage compared to my level 80s because I can't upgrade them

[thorny frost]

One thing that people forget is that when you levels up artifacts from main tiers they rerolled their attribute scores… so you would need to regrind all the refactors to rank up the refactors (it takes a fraction of refactors to get + 45 now).

[fallow mirage]

and that's silly. Just an opinion tho, u don't gotta agree

[fallow mirage]

I don't mind regrinding for drops. I do mind regrinding for time with new timegates. That's all

[bold fog]

f this grind
just did 120 chaos waves for artifacts
only upgraded 1.5 characters and the currency is gone

[river vigil]

😹

[sullen depot]

only 120 ... im sleeping in here lol

[river vigil]

He didnt know

[bold fog]

i'm so tired I can't do that

[sullen depot]

welcome to the rng life brotha

sometimes u hit and sometimes u dont

[bold fog]

I have good ish enough artifacts
it's just the dumb currency
it's all gone

[obtuse chasm]

Me after 20 runs and two grolls then 500 consecutive runs and none 😔

[sullen depot]

but like i say its a marathon not a sprint. go at the pace u want

[sullen depot]

glimmer?

[bold fog]

no the mythic thing

for the re rolling stats

[river vigil]

refactoring material

[bold fog]

yeah
chaos: here's your artifact
it's t90
and 1900 stat lmao
gg

[obtuse chasm]

Don’t remind me 😭 we carried so hard

I over estimated our randoms lol

[thorny frost]

What I mean is you would have had to regrind a ton to just get the mats to upgrade (old system limited how much refactors we could get per day as the time gate). Most/if not all games will have some time gates, but in the end it is how it makes how our time spent feel. I don’t mind this one as we honestly get drop rates basically similar to the old one, and Star tier can be upgraded if we do get an amazing drop later on.

Everything just feels more worth it to do in game and it isn’t milking our time if we did want to grind.

But this is just my perspective, i was worried about pinnacle less farming as i dont want to farm for ever. But the weekly increased drops make my time more worth it while the drops afterwards are still decent.

[frozen tree]

I built 2 godroll arts for my wolf this evening in only a few hours of grinding, I def like the new system more

[stiff breach]

is there a bug where after trying to click on mods you cant click on anything else

[thorny frost]

The one thing I wish is there was a way to upgrade base stats… even if it was slowish.

[sullen depot]

are u trying to dismantle?

[stiff breach]

yeah

[sullen depot]

yah that happens to me as wel. its bugged. essentially i never use any of these buttons lol

u gotta click throughone by one and confirm dismantle that way

[stiff breach]

dang it lol i was trying to sort lol

idk what i typed lol

[tight talon]

I mean his original point was to not play at all in the first place so you aren't timegated

[frozen tree]

How does this perk work? Is it increased damage based on less precision hits?

[tight talon]

You hit precision you get stacks. More hits quicker buff.

Buff stays even if you don't hit precision

[finite gazelle]

The perk upgrade lets you overflow the mag it doesn't preserve the buff

[stiff breach]

what are the best mods to put in shotguns now?

[twilit thistle]

network error

[frozen tree]

Im trying to decide which void auto rifle to get for wolf specifically for void shield activities, anyone got any recommendations?