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[thin valve]

Time passes and we still have helhest in calam damn

[slow olive]

She's too iconic with a sniper that one lore tab

Its been seasons now

[sharp talon]

arby one shot bug too crazy beyond how crazy hh is

[slow olive]

2 void spreads and 2 arc precisions later

[tight talon]

I'd play Fishing and Iron Bar more than the other two

[thin valve]

huh?

[sharp talon]

arby can transfer damage

u shoot miniboss and then break precision, it transfers damage to miniboss💀

[slow olive]

Legitimately no one would fuss if Efri had pistols

[fiery musk]

I actually enjoy Shadowshaper and Sparrow Racing a lot. I need a new Sparrow Racing map.

[slow olive]

Its been 6 months since the last pistol use and it was launch

[thin valve]

Bruh..

[slow olive]

NOBODY WILL GAF IF EFRIDEET WAS A PISTOL AND SNIPER CHARACTER

[thin valve]

is she limited or free pos again

[slow olive]

Pls Rising devs we need this, pistol users are kinda characterless

[indigo solar]

For PvP yeah

[sharp talon]

all future chars will be free

[fiery musk]

I woulda been fine with it. She's written as being a Handcannon user in the Warlord Shaxx conflict, but Sidearms woulda been okay.

[slow olive]

Speaking of Shaxx

[thin valve]

what?..

[slow olive]

He's obviously a sword user if he ever becomes playable

[fiery musk]

Which needs to happen.

[sharp talon]

ye u unlock them via fragments. at end of season, u can unlock any char of ur choosing as well. u summon for talents

[slow olive]

I feel like he's going to be more arc

And I will not mind if he uses GL as a primary

[leaden epoch]

Just checking, elemental sheafs are sticking around as an item right? I havent seen them mentioned by name

[tight talon]

They should

[hasty ocean]

I'm on low cortisol today finished my first ever season ornaments, stocked up on Efrideet (Weaponary wise) and about to max the TLW

[thin valve]

Point of draws now?

[sharp talon]

talent tree

[hasty ocean]

Life couldn't be more chill

[slow olive]

Good thing the Arc HC is gonna be relevant to her

[thin valve]

So every next char will be free?

[fiery musk]

They're mentioned in Efrideet's story quest rewards.

[slow olive]

Si

[thin valve]

💔🥀

Who asked for that

[sharp talon]

bro did u see all their announcements? they announced a LOT

[leaden epoch]

Thanks

[thin valve]

I have not seen anything for months

[sharp talon]

Pinnacle energy is being removed entirely as well

[hasty ocean]

True

[thin valve]

I have not played since january

[leaden epoch]

Getting the character early too right? It'll take time to get it the free way

[fiery musk]

You can spend your money on dupes still.

[sharp talon]

ye i believe so

[thin valve]

No pinacle, free chars. So they left NOTHING to grind while we literally had nothing to grind for a while?

[tight talon]

Artifacts

[empty kettle]

Guns

[tight talon]

All your old artifacts are sunset

[thin valve]

Old artifacts are getting removed?

[fiery musk]

Well... they're making you refarm Artifacts if yoy want Lv.90 Artifacts, and they further increased the grind on those for getting the best IVs and EVs on them.

[leaden epoch]

Stuck at lvl 80, cap now 90

[indigo solar]

No, but they can't be upgraded to lv 90

[tight talon]

Not removed, they won't level to new lvl 90

[indigo solar]

Quick artifact summary:
Gear level can't be upgraded, so lv 80 artifacts are locked at lv 80
Lower level artifacts have a lower requirement for tier 5 effects, so all gear levels can have max tiers
+10 enhancement has been changed to +5 star tiers, may reset seasonally
Artifacts have random base power and refactor power. Base power can't be upgraded, so you need to grind for better drops
Refactors are guaranteed upgrades every time, but the amount is random
Attribute/power transfer is simpler and offers a bit more control
Exotic artifacts are no longer locked to one element
Artifacts can only be equipped to one character at a time
Artifact gilding is removed

[slow olive]

After WEEKS of stressing the absolutely perfect ones

[thin valve]

Do we keep artifact choices?

[fiery musk]

They changed weapon upgrading too... could be more grindy for best weapons now. To be seen.

[slow olive]

This I wouldn't mind

[tight talon]

They also removed elemental limit form artifacts, no elemental lock anymore. But you can't equip duplicate artifacts anymore as well

[empty kettle]

https://discord.com/channels/1267806213656023071/1268046429402697838

[slow olive]

Exlplain that last part

[bitter estuary]

im actually gonna be pissed if the rework made it so i have to regrind everything from 0

[indigo solar]

Yes, but they're still locked to lv 80

New arti choices will probably be lv 90 choice

[thin valve]

🥀🥀🥀

[indigo solar]

It didn't

[tight talon]

Artifact A) on Character A cannot be equipped on Character B

[thin valve]

Alright at least we will have something new

[indigo solar]

Your old artis will likely be just fine for everything but leaderboards

[candid phoenix]

there's no more power leaderboards

[indigo solar]

There are still speedrun boards

And now, endless boards

[sharp talon]

expanse 40 speed running still exists?

[indigo solar]

You'll need the absolute best artifacts to go the deepest in expanse

[slow olive]

This was keeping me sane dawg...

[indigo solar]

Probably not, but calopscordon does, and raid lbs

[slow olive]

Rising has truly fallen

10 more precision arcs and void spread rotations

[indigo solar]

You can unequip from A and equip to B just fine tho

The hope is that it's because they'll start requiring multiple chars for some stuff

[slow olive]

Lemme double check if theres an artifact loadout system

[sharp talon]

is there such a system in game ?

[slow olive]

There's none

[bitter estuary]

im here waiting for the new auto rifle

and smg (if its solar)

i fear ning fei will not be out of the meta idk

[indigo solar]

There are recommended loadouts that you can equip, but you can't make your own

[slow olive]

He's too fast to be ever "out of the meta"

[indigo solar]

Ofc he won't, he's still the best runner

[slow olive]

Plus Mahamayuri is still super good

[indigo solar]

He will be when impact is in cycle and rapid isn't

[sharp talon]

cordon doesnt really need hyper optimized runner

[twilit thistle]

So essentially no god rolls. Bc you can imagine it’s new content. Despite selling those dice still I bet. I don’t see how vuln would help HH, or Estela, so the element would help as much as it does now. Having a limit of 500, I assume, so you gonna grind for one char and stop. Then next season it gets sunset

[sharp talon]

jaren does running fine, and he does way more dps

[signal spade]

higher damage throughout should be better than movespeed overall if its balanced well

[indigo solar]

If it's replacing calops, lbs will absolutely be going for the deepest run. You'll reach a point where you need to reach boss before time runs out

[bitter estuary]

at the end of the day the modifiers they put are gonna be built around the newest character

[signal spade]

you'll reach the boss faster killing the rest of the rooms quicker and killing the boss quicker though

[slow olive]

Always will be

[sharp talon]

at that point, enemies will be extremely tanky. wont it be like a 2 player game mode if ning does zero damage?

[indigo solar]

Yeah

[bitter estuary]

i still think calops is superior i do think calops has some stuff where its more skill based then "yeah skip this room, get to the next room so we can kill boss in time"

[sharp talon]

i dont see ning being relevant anymore personally beyond rapid fire shinkas

[fiery musk]

The question is how Efrideet is gonna end up in a superior position to Helhest for any Arc Precision content.

[slow olive]

Thats the neat part she wont

[signal spade]

its called cordon making sniper modifiers adn not lfr ones

[slow olive]

Kabr's existed and barely made a nudge in the overall meta

[bitter estuary]

depends, i think since hh buffs dont stack so people will use umeko instead assuming shes a debuff unit (efrideet)

[slow olive]

She's an offensice

[fiery musk]

I suppose ideally Efrideet will have higher personal damage windows, but no support features.

Problem is Helhest's support feature of "I always use Heavy, and I provide Heavy ammo to the team" is kinda heavy on value scale.

[bitter estuary]

i fear people will use kabr R or umeko instead then

for 2nd and 3rd piercing

[slow olive]

People are really underestimating barriers in endgame

(Splash damage)

[signal spade]

i mean if cordon just puts likes 'sniper rifles do 40% more damage' and 'all sniper rifles get triple tap' on the mod list you might just run like ikora efrideet umeko for high cordon

its legit just whatever they do with the affixes

[bitter estuary]

umeko/kabr R + hh + jaren (if impact)/wigkora or maru (if spread) will be the meta for cordon i assume

[sharp talon]

depending on the boss as well, you might run out of heavy and need damage from someone like jaren who doesn't really need heavy as much

[signal spade]

those new paragon trees are spec based too so i presume the support one will have less damage nodes than the offense ones

[slow olive]

Im using Wigkora from now on

[bitter estuary]

that being said i fear they're gonna overtune the amount of dmg buffs you can get from the drones

[bitter estuary]

live love laugh wigkora (my first t6 💜 )

[sharp talon]

i bet this paragon system is going to buff hh to the next level

[twilit thistle]

Doubt it. If we do this netease can literally just put out activities that drop artifacts for the new char.

[sharp talon]

they wont fix the arbalest bug and hh will rein terror for another thousand years

just add a precision shinka to the boss room atp

[bitter estuary]

like other rpgs, it's too easy to accidentally overtune supports

[dusty spire]

They will fix it that I know, when is another question

But from what is detailed HH may power up more towards support

As this is actually where she shines in the later stages

[sharp talon]

it would be really funny if they do add a precision shinka to the boss room

[dusty spire]

Without the right support then sustain in later cordon becomes a problem

[sharp talon]

most of the boss hp deleted in 1 sec

[rotund raptor]

Can thi back to back still be done ?

[bitter estuary]

if the new strike has a moving platform i fear while people would just use other units instead (e.g. attal t6), people would STILL use helhest

which is nice but then again hh still reigns supreme

[dusty spire]

The idea is the more you put into the hero that season the stronger it gets

Then reset and start over again

It’s like over clocking

You hit the bench mark then after that your pushing it as far as possible, tailoring perfect %s etc to get the most out of it

Now it only becomes viable if rewards are good

[sharp talon]

i bet im gonna regret building jaren instead of efrideet 😭

[dusty spire]

Time spent to power up hero’s needs to be rewarded back equally

[dusty spire]

As they have already hinted new banners will get a edge buff

All this does is make them perform slightly better during the cycle

Think of a fighting game with handicap

[sullen depot]

New and previous banner tho I believe get the buff

[sharp talon]

ig im building ikora

[dusty spire]

Exactly as you have written

So Ikora and new banner gets the buff

[sullen depot]

(1) If the inserted character is a Myth Character introduced this season or last season, they will receive additional amplification.

Kabr included actually

[signal spade]

mods dont have perk bonuses anymore right so godrolls are just godrolls and we dont care about upgraded perks or what

[dusty spire]

I got into oversea with maru

[sharp talon]

wait if they add kabr blind buffs it might be good for jaren

kabr's morgrans hunt was so good for jaren

[dusty spire]

This is the magic with team comps

[twilit thistle]

They can still gatekeep drop rates, and make it easier to upgrade the new char

[fiery musk]

The perk level is part of the weapon roll now. T_T

[signal spade]

thats sick the rng is gonna go hard

get a 10-10-9 instead of a 10-10-10 and delete your character

[sullen depot]

Yeah imma use building hairkora as a test dummy since she gets the seasonal buff and use her to see how all the new system works while building her

[signal spade]

the best? way to play is prob pick 2-3 characters that can dumpster expanse on different shinka typees

and then get all those mats and spread the wealth

[dusty spire]

Well at least the vestment seen in characters might stand out more

[indigo solar]

HH, Ikora-H, Jaren

[sharp talon]

maybe ill get to use crimson on jaren for rapid fire expanse 💀

[dusty spire]

Very easy copy and paste structure here already

[sharp talon]

ima try doing all 4 with jaren

[dusty spire]

Long term players just copy and have same out put, with more rng and options we might see different styles

[signal spade]

hairkora prob safe cause she's seasonal buffed but i think like joldr or estela would be pretty solid to cover rapid fire too

[dusty spire]

So a build for OP and one for TLW

May be completely different

[sharp talon]

theres no one near as good as spread as ikora

[signal spade]

partridge sky the real goated weapon of expanse

[dusty spire]

Gives jaren players more options to farm and build

I’m building an arc first

[sharp talon]

OP?

[dusty spire]

For arc comp and then I’ll pick based on content clearing

[dusty spire]

Old perfect?

[sharp talon]

oh ic

[dusty spire]

Because now you’ll probably have more option in terms of build crafting depending on what’s released in the revamp

Unless it still leans towards 3 recommended build paths

Our current build path is the quick equip recommendation screen

Once a titan always a titan ngl I had to achieve this

[signal spade]

so smart of them to make the best defensive character, support character, and new offense character all arc piercing

[dusty spire]

I really don’t get it but maybe later it makes sense lol

But arc is pierced out lol

[signal spade]

and attal exists to add insult to injury

[dusty spire]

In b4 xuan hc / LFR

[sharp talon]

mythic xuan with hc / lfr would be insane

[signal spade]

fusion lmg or riot

[dusty spire]

Xuan can only come back as solar

He’s gonna be the first re elemented

[signal spade]

toaster gaming

[sharp talon]

solar is the peak element

[obtuse folio]

I want a solar samurai

[signal spade]

i want t5 finalla but im pretty sure thats just gonna wind up being saladin

[rotund raptor]

Finally got one after 2k pin spent lol

[candid phoenix]

2K??? damn

[glad valve]

2K for 1 that’s criminal

[glad valve]

[candid phoenix]

you're not wrong

[golden spade]

Ngl, this score is so high in Overseer and with Maru!

👏👏👏👑

[dusty spire]

Don’t get me started

I’ll just go on and on until Ne drops

[candid phoenix]

Ngl I forgot he fought with us in the campaign

I need a refresher of the story

[neat panther]

Is destiny rising getting a console launch anytime soon?

[neat valley]

This barter event is good , all I’ve been getting is photons and season 4 clusters

[bitter estuary]

there's usually listings on the shops before it happens, but so far not yet

[neat panther]

well they did a poll asking about Console launch last year? whats the recent news I have been out of the loop

[bitter estuary]

bro the game has been out for only 6 months, let it breathe

[naive ingot]

Nothing yet

[neat panther]

you understand why Im asking right? you should know D2 is on its arse brother

[signal spade]

best marketing they could do for this patch is say nothing and on thursday theres just a front page banner on steam and all the consoles to install it

wheres that wish dragon

[candid phoenix]

They’ll just give us another calendar that says “PC event” on it

[signal spade]

true

[sullen depot]

Nah nah more like “mysterious PC event”

[signal spade]

yea and then the reveal would be a literal computer in haven that we use for a 2 minute quest

[glad valve]

Boys do you think we might get a trailer today

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-not-i-dont-know-maybe-we-dont-know-gif-4965071280460852343

[sullen depot]

everyone is gonna keep asking the same question until they drop. Just gotta wait and see.

[dusty spire]

lol

[glad valve]

It’s not good enough

[golden spade]

Yooooo! The goat! Love your videos

[sharp talon]

really hoping for a cinematic trailer this time

[waxen abyss]

I still think about possibility of having Wrath Of The Machine in Destiny Rising

[dusty spire]

They need to build this properly before going console

Once it’s lined out correctly then maybe

But rn if this had launched on console

And all these changes could have left those players sour too

Better we get it right before trying another rocket into console space

[neat panther]

Hell yeah dude hello dear loyalist !

[golden spade]

Chablo, I don't know if you played Rising but usually U can't build craft. Basically every one copies the best builds

[neat panther]

yeah I played DR on a IPAD lol. The game is too strict with a 2 weapon combo system

[golden spade]

A legend of the Destiny 2 community has blessed this page

[sullen depot]

Everyone copied the best builds because of the pinnacle strain to branch out to try new things imo

[neat panther]

if the game was optimized it would do well on a native PC launch with console

[golden spade]

So Sad what they did to grand masters. That's when i moved on 😢

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/donut-glaze-satisfying-gif-13180530

[golden spade]

I'll be honest last time I watched was a month ago

[neat panther]

Dont wory Grandmaster's will ve solved eventually. I told bungie to sort em out

[golden spade]

Yes! I will glaze 😂😂😂

[neat panther]

glaze me up like a cinamon roll lads !

Im posting guardian games content this week come and see ME on YT this week. Cheers

[golden spade]

Anyways. Now is a good time to jump on. But you will need a pc to upload to you tube

New raid coming out and I am sure your viewers would love to see the new season

[neat panther]

Will check out the cool stuff sir, thanks for the convo and feedback to these devs. Destiny rising needs to step up release on other platforms.

[elder wing]

Hopefully is today man… like please Neteaseeeee. Can’t be tomorrow I just want the trailer today and early access tomorrow. Just makes sense

If we get trailer today! T6 on the first day!

[proud flint]

Is this game p2w

[elder wing]

F2p friendly

[proud flint]

Ive heard people say that about diablo immortal as well, what makes it f2p friendly?

[cyan tide]

Eh, not really. There's a clear best build for most characters. It just boils down to what artifacts increase your damage the most.

[proud flint]

Oof its not like d2 where you pick a class and go? You gotta unlock heroes?

Let me guess, the heroes are locked behind lootboxes and the newest ones are always the best and they are basically only available by spending tons on the boxes?

[signal spade]

anyone who told you diablo immortal was f2p friendly probably sells snake oil

[sharp talon]

in s4 u unlock heroes via character fragments which u get from missions

[cyan tide]

I've heard the exact opposite about diablo immortal, isn't that the game where you can spend $100k and still not have a maxed out account?

[naive ingot]

Oh I would love it on console

[lunar jay]

big patch note, i exceeded my 7 sentences per day quota

[proud flint]

Yeah but they claim its f2p friendly because you can do all of the pve and campaign without that

[signal spade]

you can get every character pretty easily for like $5 a month in this game and supposedly you wont even need that starting thursday

[lunar jay]

this game is pay to progress

[empty kettle]

Pvp in this game isn't that alive anyway

[proud flint]

Are all of the heroes viable?

[lunar jay]

if you're trying to be competitive, it will take you 2-3 months compared to swiping and play for a few hours

[proud flint]

I dont usually like hero games. I like to play 1 character and build it up

[elder wing]

10 to 20 min should we see trailer if not… ggs

[lunar jay]

viable? as in use one char do all content? that's op

[glad valve]

[bitter estuary]

9 min left till 4pm utc

[empty kettle]

[ruby jetty]

Tan the man

[lunar jay]

but im sure there's some char that does that

[ruby jetty]

Trailer today?

[glad valve]

Jim the Bob

[lunar jay]

could never imagine such heroes in rising

[ruby jetty]

Hell yeah

[proud flint]

I thought this would be like destiny on pc where you just pick a class and build it up and your gear is what makes you good or not, so each character has different abilities and stuff? How does the weapons and gear work? Is it like d2?

[lunar jay]

i think the patchnote tactics worked tbh, it's so long i cba to read it, im just gonna install and play it out

[sharp talon]

its also poorly translated lol

[empty kettle]

Have you heard the term gacha?

[proud flint]

Yeah those are the p2w bs games

"Buy the newest hero so you can play the game and if you dont youre just gonna be awful"

[ruby jetty]

I think there trying to move away from gatcha

[indigo solar]

Every character's t0 can be obtained for free, all content can be easily cleared with t0, talents are disabled in PvP. Talents only benefit whales for leaderboard chasing, which is cosmetic-only rewards. The biggest p2w advantage is battle pass weapons. F2P can only fully upgrade the catalysts for BP weapons about once a year, but they can get 2/3 of the way upgraded every four months

[glad valve]

Nothing new under the sun

[summer ledge]

Helhest

[proud flint]

This is the answer I was looking for ty, is there any disadvantage to just playing 1 character?

I dont mind paying for a battlepass if the game is fun. I understand they gotta make money

[summer ledge]

It encourages you to build at least one character of each element and weapon type, but I also heard the weapon types are changing a bit and know no more about it.

[storm scroll]

DI is the most egregious game I've ever played on mobile/emulator . F2p friendly is not a thing in that game.

[summer ledge]

There are Destiny 2 champion-equivalent enemies that need a certain weapon type to effectively deal with them, but there are some creative ways around them if you build certain characters.

[bitter estuary]

in this game its more on teambuilding then working around building on which set is better for said unit

for example umeko, she can make your team invisible for an amount of time, which is useful so a boss doesnt agro towards you

[indigo solar]

There are enemies that are specifically vulnerable to one type of weapon (rapid, impact, piercing, and spread), so you want at least one character with each weapon type

[proud flint]

I agree. I was very disappointed, Diablo is one of my favorite games and DI is terrible.

[indigo solar]

You won't have a fun time trying to kill a rapid shinka with a spread gun

[proud flint]

That makes sense

[sharp talon]

i was trying to destroy a precision shinka with ikora's primary lgl in challenge mode lol, i cant even imagine that

[summer ledge]

Is it just three types now or are they just renaming the four?

[proud flint]

So the answer is only p2w to chase leaderboards and all content is available otherwise

Downloading

[summer ledge]

Certain characters definitely run the entire game over, but for the most part you should be fine.

[proud flint]

Which heroes are good to start with?

[sharp talon]

wolf

[wide dagger]

Ning fei

[summer ledge]

I know a lot of people say Ning is the best in the permanent pool.

[storm scroll]

It's actually a pretty good game. just not f2p friendly at all. not even friendly for mid spenders lol. althought the only content that really requires a crazy amount of power are the pvp events

[signal spade]

its pretty much destiny if you had overwatch heroes instead of subclasses is the short of it and i guess you have more choice in the weapons they use than overwatch but much less than destiny

[summer ledge]

I like the mythic version of Kabr since he has a lot of element diversity and utility with Arbalest being... Arbalest.

[sharp talon]

wolf can do rapid fire, spread, and impact (to an okish degree)

[bitter estuary]

while yeah like other gachas a lot of team comp would be better than X team comp because it'd do more damage

i think a lot of live service games rely heavily on dps checks and powercreep anyways, so far we havent experienced major powercreep because they released an absolute overpowered support some time ago called helhest

[indigo solar]

Unfortunately most of the best characters are currently unavailable. Ning is the best character from the standard pool, though Ikora (the current limited) is moving to it on Thursday and is a really strong option as well

[proud flint]

By not available you mean for free or not at all?

[bitter estuary]

we're getting a character and progression overhaul in s4, so it's gonna be a MUCH better experience for you

[indigo solar]

Yeah you'll hear a lot of complaining about Helhest. The third limited character they released was an absolutely broken support character that deals a ton of damage, has strong team healing, grants a team-wide damage boost, and generates heavy ammo for the whole team

[indigo solar]

Not at all

[summer ledge]

Not in the game at all right now, but maybe changing on Thursday?

[indigo solar]

There haven't been any limited banner reruns yet

[indigo solar]

Thursday changes how character draws work though so we'll see

[proud flint]

So is the gameplay loop similar to d2 on pc? Just grind missions/raids to upgrade gear?

[summer ledge]

Wording is confusing, especially when they chose Gwynn as the example for the new currency. Maybe everyone is available again.

[bitter estuary]

that being said

umeko is still a completely fine unit to main in comp, despite her being powercrept by hh a whole act later

[indigo solar]

Pretty much yeah, but the grind is more for upgrade materials than better rolls. That's also likely changing on Thursday though

Sorry you're coming in at a really weird time where we know there's a massive overhaul coming, but we don't know how it will play out

[proud flint]

All good, can I flip the joysticks on my screen around to Southpaw?

[indigo solar]

Yeah pretty much every character is viable in all content except finnala

[indigo solar]

90% sure yes

[proud flint]

I know a lot of mobile games dont have that and it sucks since im left handed and prefer aiming with my left thumb instead of right lol

Cool deal

[indigo solar]

Yeah you can

[twilit thistle]

[ruby jetty]

Oh a new player wasup man

[indigo solar]

It's not a setting toggle, but you can move the joystick to the other side and it will automatically configure

[bitter estuary]

i'm convinced it might be a while before we'll get a status effect overhaul

[proud flint]

Sweet

[signal spade]

what do you guys think the best perks will be on the north african egg

[indigo solar]

You'll have to rearrange the whole hud but the dynamic joystick will adjust

[proud flint]

Installing now

The different hero's kind of remind me of frames in warframe

[sharp talon]

nerf finnala

[indigo solar]

Xuan is peak

[signal spade]

give sweet business explosive payload as a catalyst

[bitter estuary]

nerf finnala buff scorch

[twilit thistle]

So glad we are removing finnala ops.

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/wendy-williams-coffee-gif-9741880

[proud flint]

So Thursday is a new update?

[indigo solar]

Yep

Basically 2.0

[elder wing]

Their YouTube is still without pfp 👀

[indigo solar]

More like 1.0 though, since it seems like full launch was basically an open beta

[proud flint]

I actually saw a video that said something about they are removing some of the gacha and thats why I came here lol

[empty kettle]

Classic cc clickbait

[indigo solar]

Gacha is staying, but there's also going to be a deterministic path to get copies

[proud flint]

Thats why I came here, to verify 😂

[indigo solar]

You'll be able to get character shards from events, campaigns etc that you can use to create copies

[proud flint]

Thats the main thing, is being able to do things by grinding

[indigo solar]

But the primary way for duplicates will still likely be the gacha

[proud flint]

Pay2progress faster is different than p2w

[indigo solar]

IMO I don't think it will be unlimited potential to grind for fragments

[proud flint]

Nothing wrong with pay2progress imo

[indigo solar]

But you'll still get enough fragments and Lumia as f2p for t1 or t2 on most chars

[proud flint]

Tiers just make their base stats higher?

So pvp has talents capped so its fair?

[signal spade]

it doesnt rly seem like theres gonna be much pay 2 progress in this iteration unless im missing something

[empty kettle]

More like grind to progress

[signal spade]

like 1 or 2 of the 6 talents are usually busted and its usually the first one you get

[indigo solar]

Not even capped, removed. Everyone is t0

Though the pvpve mode has talents enabled but nerfed

But that mode is a lot more PvE than PvP, and talents don't make a ton of difference

Also it's not competitive at all

[proud flint]

So if even the pvp is fairish how are people saying this game is p2w lol

[indigo solar]

Lots of opportunities to spend money

[proud flint]

Even if somebody spent a ton and had the best charaxters and youre in a raid with them, them being on your team just helps you

[indigo solar]

It's all doable f2p, but p2w do it a lot faster

[indigo solar]

Indeed

[proud flint]

Reddit lied to me

[sharp talon]

the contest raid has fair play too

[proud flint]

As usual

[indigo solar]

Yeah this too, talents are disabled for raid races

[cursive depot]

mainly just leaderboards - expanse & calamity, just more advantages than the average F2P

[proud flint]

I wont be playing as a main game, more of a porcelain throne or idk what to do at work game, so that doesnt bother me lol

[bitter estuary]

reddit
they literally complain over anything

helhest is meta yes, but if you have umeko only it's COMPLETELY fine for comp

[indigo solar]

Which is honestly how it's meant to be played

Oh btw the meta character for PvP is a 4*

[proud flint]

Maybe this game will get me interested in d2 again, I really onlt played d1

[indigo solar]

Though if you're interested in PvP, I do have to say it's only available on weekends and there is no ranking system

[rotund raptor]

Question. The upgrades that we will do to our charscters resset every season?

[twilit thistle]

@bitter estuary can u turn on dlss 5

[sharp talon]

i hate how it looks off

[elder wing]

Well no trailer today again! 😫

[elder wing]

Yh that probably part of the trailer ngl

[indigo solar]

Some do

If you're talking about relic upgrades, probably not?

It looks like there may be some changes to the relic upgrade system tho

[rotund raptor]

The 4*?

[indigo solar]

I mean like some weapon and artifact upgrades

[rotund raptor]

I mean yea the relic upg the artfacts we grind

[indigo solar]

And the new emanare system

[rotund raptor]

Ah okk

[empty kettle]

New ability slot?

[bitter estuary]

her smile looks photoshoped in like a pseychie thumbnail

[sharp talon]

imagine if theyre emotes / taunts 😂

[rotund raptor]

Propably ?

Emotes that can shake the ground😂

[indigo solar]

Indeed

[rotund raptor]

Well 1 day and 19 hours left till we find out

Hopfully the update doesnt take all day

[indigo solar]

Though it seems there's one ability for supports, one for offense, one for defense

It's not a new ability for every char

[twilit thistle]

💀

[fiery musk]

Looks like they already ran it through it, tbh

[elder wing]

Might be delayed for couple maybe

[rotund raptor]

Bruh whaa

[sharp talon]

prob not cuz they do china first as practice

[elder wing]

I mean it happened before… this update us hugee soo who knows

[rotund raptor]

Yea we can ask our fellow chinese ppl to tell us how much it takes

[fiery musk]

Me when the update written somehow feels small.
They added one new cubicle in the office, and reshuffled the furniture.

[fiery musk]

Eww

[elder wing]

Keep that thing off… god

[fiery musk]

Feeding AI images to an AI upscaler is cursed.

[tight talon]

Where notes? New blog?

[sharp talon]

ask gemini 3 pro to fix 😂

[bitter estuary]

speaking of the efrideet teaser

i dont get how its ai

[fiery musk]

Efrideet Cinematic where?

[sharp talon]

the smile is off

[fiery musk]

Uncanny valley face. Like a photo of a real woman got laced into it.

[empty kettle]

https://discord.com/channels/1267806213656023071/1268046429402697838

[elder wing]

Exactly my question… why they keep it to the last day dmn. Maybe there’s none

[sharp talon]

at least jaren the peak cowboy got one

[elder wing]

Sick one at that

Did jaren got his On Monday @sharp talon ??

As far as I remember we even got early access to him as well actually

[sharp talon]

i dont remember 😢

[sharp talon]

ye we did, i remember that

[bitter estuary]

tung tung sahur in destiny rising

[fiery musk]

Pattern used to be short teaser on Friday before, then full cinematic on Saturday before.

[elder wing]

They gotta do the same on efrideet lol big season cmonnn

[fiery musk]

Either way, the Efrideet curry has been planned. (Why do I have a tradition of eating curry on gacha character release days now?)

[tight talon]

it's curry today, instant ramen next time

[sharp talon]

maybe if their revenue goes up, we'll get cinematics again 😢

🤞 s4

[elder wing]

They don’t have pfp on YouTube… weird

[sharp talon]

it was the mysterious visitor thing

[elder wing]

We even got one for Kabr lol

[sharp talon]

they blacked out everything, i think they forgot to change it back on youtube 💀 🤦‍♂️

[elder wing]

Probably lol

I think there’s no trailer or whatsoever

[tight talon]

I hate their marketing/socials team more cause what the hell are they doing

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-gif-17838646818300389894

[tight talon]

Not having enough content is fine, but seriously who is even getting paid to do nothing atp

[sharp talon]

i tihnk that team got downsized

look at r/destinyrising, the pinned posts used to have giveaways and stuff. they stopped after kabr

[indigo solar]

Could always be worse

[tight talon]

Even if it were 1 man, it's like 7 social media accounts and 3 of them can generate players

Really not that hard

[tired pier]

An Attal main? Wild.

[tight talon]

To repeat the same thing again and again

[indigo solar]

Peak PvP char

Only one that can beat a good attal is a Jaren in super or an Umeko jumping off the map

[fiery musk]

I've been worried about the lack of advertisement.

No returner campaign being advertised either.

Currently, the only people aware of S4 are the people around who still cared enough to keep a pulse on the game. This should be an update that pushes for returners...

"Wishes always extract a terrible price"...

[tight talon]

#2 Other region Attal, been #6 for all seasons

That's how dead the game is atp

[tired pier]

Lol

So Effridet is coming as a playable character?

[sharp talon]

if they do a marketing campaign i think it would start with the raid

the raid hooks ppl in, then they would play the campaign etc

[fiery musk]

Yes

[lapis swallow]

Lol, Netease will do anything but pay ads for marketing for S4 of the game. They're just basically sponsoring Aztecross and that's it. 🥀

[fiery musk]

You over estimate the value of raids.

[sharp talon]

ye its copium 😭

[tired pier]

Praying for the day they bring Saint 14 or Osiris as playable characters 🙏

[indigo solar]

They haven't done ads since like October 😭

[glad valve]

Someone is coping

[tired pier]

Maybe Cayde 6 too

[lapis swallow]

They're too broke af to even run ads 🤣

[indigo solar]

Saint maybe, Osiris is never going to be playable tho I'm sorry

[fiery musk]

Efrideet coming may imply Shaxx in the near future.

[tight talon]

Don't even need to pay for ads, just upload 1 video on 3 socials, YouTube, Facebook and Reddit
That's it
Literally.

[lapis swallow]

Cheapest they can do is pay Aztec 7.5k USD for 2-3hrs streaming

[glad valve]

I’m broke af after paying bills

[storm scroll]

why not?

[tight talon]

I think his ahh gets whipped into another timeline in the dark ages

Something like that

[fiery musk]

What

[tired pier]

That's Saint 14, no?

[tight talon]

Saint chases after Osiris, i am like 90% sure about it

[bitter estuary]

im gonna check the artifacts instead, and get into the layers

[sharp talon]

idk why they would add a skip option for the whole campaign if they werent trying to do something like this

[tired pier]

Ah yes, Osiris disappears into the infinite forest, then Saint goes after him and dies.

[tight talon]

[indigo solar]

There's no way to make the most powerful character ever feel good as a playable character

[twilit thistle]

There is no way an artist would mess up an eye color that distinctive.

[indigo solar]

Also they've been avoiding showing Osiris too much, even in Ikora's lore

[storm scroll]

dream crusher!

[indigo solar]

He may still assist with stuff but he'll be an NPC

[storm scroll]

that's secretly the only reason I'm still here

[tight talon]

I mean they can bring out Osiris if Last City is established and Lightbearers can start to channel Light without Relics.

Would be good 12+ Seasons before that happens

[glad valve]

Make Osiris playable

[fiery musk]

NetEase has bern taking a lot of misses.

[tired pier]

The fact that Osiris didn't become an NPC yet might indicate he's coming as a playable character tho.

[glad valve]

Imagine

[indigo solar]

Oh yeah this reminds me

[glad valve]

Is Osiris solar

[tired pier]

He better come broken.

[tired pier]

Yes

[indigo solar]

Images incoming

[tight talon]

There are more odds of Madam Merin being playable than Osiris

[sharp talon]

what is going with the madam meyrin stuff?

[glad valve]

I thought he was. Because of rescuing Saint 14 and bringing him back a live

[sharp talon]

do you guys think it will lead to anywhere?

[fiery musk]

Crota's End? Should've been an Eris Morn feature season for when we finally get Moon travel, but with Eris Morn beating Crota instead of losing this time. We should've been there as of S4, but they decided they aren't capable of seasonal story progression like every other gacha game made by companies with less money.

[elder wing]

What images??

[glad valve]

I like broken characters take an advantage

[tight talon]

Probably this timeline SIVA doesn't assimilate everyone

That's all i can guess

[cyan tide]

Just setting up a future storyline

[glad valve]

I like Siva

[indigo solar]

The ones from the patch notes, just in full res

[tired pier]

So that's what they gonna find inside rhe bunkers? Siva!?

[glad valve]

Siva Fallen was the best

[tired pier]

Calus 😮

[twilit thistle]

The first one is the one I used to prove.

[sharp talon]

this looks amazing

[slow olive]

Fusion Rifles are never coming back lmao

[tired pier]

Wait, that's the Leviathan?

[indigo solar]

Also these cursed screenshots

[glad valve]

[tight talon]

Right now, more Black Armory weapons firstly.

Maybe if we get to Mars instead of Moon first, then Bunkers on Mars need to be opened up

[fiery musk]

They've done some setup for the House of Devils, Splicers, SIVA, Warmind Bunkers, and Felwinter. I hope they do it right and well.

[tired pier]

Lets hope Rasputin doesn't kill every Iron Lord this time.

[twilit thistle]

They match. Thats the difference between that, and the tweet. The eyes were at the very least the same color.

[indigo solar]

Hey man you don't know that's SIVA, it's just a nanite connected to Jolder that eats metal

[ruby jetty]

The calus area looks dope man

[tight talon]

Iron Lord... SIVA Nanites that eats metal... Are Iron Lords stupid?

[fiery musk]

How about I eat you instead?

[tight talon]

[indigo solar]

Yep

[fiery musk]

https://tenor.com/view/chaotic-good-barbarian-forces-evil-gif-14635262220243086378

[indigo solar]

I'm not denying that they use AI fairly heavily, but I will say it could be a lighting thing with the tweet

Her right eye (our left) seems to match the orange-ish colour

[fiery musk]

Solar colored eyes

[indigo solar]

I think her smile is what gives the uncanny valley feel

[signal spade]

didnt they use ai literally in game to make those christmas items for the den

and those emotes, i dont think they care

[fiery musk]

It definitely is.

[indigo solar]

Among other places

[cyan tide]

The Christmas items were sick ngl

[signal spade]

yea im like pretty sure theyve openly stated theyre using ai as part of the games functions people acting like a smile filter you can get on your nvidia camera is some crazy issue

[fiery musk]

Christmas item AI was very low on the AI scale.
Just trying to extrapolate 3D images from 2D.

[cyan tide]

Also the custom emotes

[signal spade]

how low is a smile filter

[bitter estuary]

damn the face decals

[indigo solar]

I don't think they were talking about the build-your-own thing, but the event with ai imagery all over it

[bitter estuary]

im pretty positive its ai

[fiery musk]

The issue with AI only hits when it doesn't look good, really. If it looked good, no-one would be making AI accusations.

[tight talon]

[indigo solar]

Nah, bad ai really sucks but good ai is still bad unless it's entirely locally trained

To my knowledge there still isn't an ethically trained large genAI model

[fiery musk]

Ethically bad, but when people can't tell, it doesn't become an issue.

[bitter estuary]

locally trained is still bad, training the ai takes more energy than it is to generate something off the ai

[fiery musk]

Right now, people can tell based on uncanney valley and bizarre artifacts.

Those issues will go away eventually.

[indigo solar]

The energy thing is a non-issue, it really does not use a significant amount of energy. Especially when compared to the energy required to create a similar image using traditional photoshop/illustrator etc tools

There's a higher up-front cost from training, but each image requires significantly less energy

And the energy used by every individual is still microscopic compared to energy used by massive corporations

[bitter estuary]

... debatable

[indigo solar]

Individuals' carbon footprint and water usage is a rounding error

-# (in fact, "carbon footprint" was coined by BP to make consumers feel like they were primarily responsible for the environment)

[bitter estuary]

fair

[fiery musk]

Legally, I'm pretty sure we can't stop corporations from replacing workers of all sort with AI now.

Ethically, I'm afraid we're gonna have to bite the bullet that it's here to stay. Human art is gonna become a special novelty.

The problem we're facing is that AI isn't ready to replace human quality yet. They're pushing it too soon.

[sullen depot]

Oh yeah. I’m in the tech industry and literally every vendor is just coming to talk about AI. It’s here to stay forever. Just need laws to regulate but those laws are coming in late

[bitter estuary]

.com bubble bursted but its still here despite all that

i dont think i support ai but its here to stay

[tight talon]

Somehow everyone wants democracy as a form of governance but corporates aren't allowed to be democratic

[slow olive]

Wth did I just walk into?

[sullen depot]

I support certain AI usage. I think it just went to mainstream way too fast

[bitter estuary]

a discussion about the "ethical" usage of ai

[fiery musk]

NetEase's continued and blunt usage of low-quality AI Gen.

[bitter estuary]

i wanna bring where winds meet to the discussion but idk

[tight talon]

Haves and Haves not

[slow olive]

Ah yes

[fiery musk]

There's higher quality AI Gen products out there, NetEase just isn't using it.

[sullen depot]

That’s just gonna be every company tho. All companies are looking for a way to cut cost no matter the ethics

[slow olive]

Season 0 and the notorious AI voiceovers

[bitter estuary]

the ai image to character face is pretty meh

[signal spade]

maybe theyll use this game as a test to see how far they can take ai code development and soon we'll be fully ai driven and we can wait for the next gpt version to make the game better and they wont need to pay employees

[bitter estuary]

icl

[fiery musk]

Epic Games just cut 1,000 staff today.

[tight talon]

@gritty rune

[slow olive]

Bulletin Board man, Chinnawat, and that one sidequest character

I still remember how they called the name of their dog (I don't remember the name)

[bitter estuary]

fortnite was testing ai songs and now ai concept art for the 3d models also ai texturework

that being said, its not worth increasing the price of vbucks ngl

[sharp talon]

we should be able to pet dogs in haven

[sullen depot]

Like from all the internal things I know from my job I have made my bed and know ai is here to stay and unfortunately just gonna have to adapt whether we like it or not. Of course there are good uses and evil uses. All depends on the user. Lots of jobs are gonna be lost cuz of corporation greed

[bitter estuary]

i still play fortnite till this date i know but people still play that game including my friends, so idk

[indigo solar]

Legally, jobs will shift. A majority of jobs will never (or at least not for a very long time) be replaced by AI, either because AI is incapable of doing it (farming etc), humans are the reason for it (sports etc), or it needs to be done by a human for ethical/moral reasons (law etc). AI will still assist for a lot of those. It'll destroy some jobs and it'll create some, and unemployment will still stabilize to 1-6%.

Ethically, it could go either way. With the right lawsuits at the right times, there could be protections to ensure that people whose data was used to train AI were fairly compensated, and companies that don't compensate can be penalized. Personally I don't expect this to happen since it's been 30 years and we haven't even created legal enforcement for robots.txt but who knows

[slow olive]

Great

Rising got in the way of my storage woes

[indigo solar]

We love citizens united!!!

[fiery musk]

AI can definitely farm. Anything that takes a process can be automated.

Sports are safe-ish. Yeah.

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/subway-slammer-persona-persona-5-slam-truth-nuke-gif-16106395584668426687

[fiery musk]

Destiny needs to give us some deep-strike insertion moments.

[indigo solar]

AI will absolutely assist farmers (it already is), but it's not killing farming

I do think there will also be a niche of AI sports in 15 years or so

[sullen depot]

AI movies will soon become a thing in theatres. I won’t be surprised

[bitter estuary]

i mean in china atleast theres robots doing their traditional dances now, so i guess sports next maybe

[fiery musk]

Those vids are AI still. XD

[indigo solar]

There's one short movie playing before the real movie in certain theaters, and there are already theater chains saying they won't show it. AI is already assisting in a ton of movies, but I don't expect a fully AI movie to be successful for at least 10 years

[bitter estuary]

stop i have had ENOUGH of those vids

varka "leak" fart ult and chibi phoebe being kidnapped

[fiery musk]

Robotics companies are still suffering on the bipedal format.

[indigo solar]

Tbf a routine like a dance is actually relatively simple, Boston dynamics could do it with a significantly higher manufacturing rate

[bitter estuary]

i mean there's fruit love island (on tiktok) which is completely ai and ppl seemingly would eat it up so idk

[indigo solar]

But yes a lot of stuff supposedly coming out of China tends to be a fake

[tight talon]

Reminds me of two things.

I study the art of war, geography and history, so my son can learn trade.

I study trade and merchantile investment, so my son can study art and poetry.

Seems we aren't going forward and rather back to war considering how AI is extensively used for surveillance and military

[indigo solar]

I've seen stuff about this and I'm 105% sure that at least 80% of its followers are bots

[regal gulch]

Show what it looks like

[bitter estuary]

either that or little kids that shouldnt be on the platform

[sullen depot]

For now. Until the greed sets in. The fact that Samsung semiconductors are prioritizing selling their ram to AI companies rather than their own internal smartphone division. Or Xbox being sunset as their main focus is going to be AI. All it takes for a change of mind is greed and money

[fiery musk]

Cyclical by nature.
Too many people currently expect to live a luxurious lifestyle with minimal work. But for 1 person to live that lifestyle, at least 1 other must live in squalor and destitution. In eternal labor to support that person's lifestyle.

[fiery musk]

Such existence breeds resentment, which breeds conflict.

[bitter estuary]

samsung is doing this to their ENTIRE division btw, so this includes the storage, dram, ram, etc.

[frozen raven]

Yo, can someone give me a tldr on the state of the game

[fiery musk]

First time I've ever seen a completed sticker.

[empty kettle]

Waiting for season 4

[bitter estuary]

this lowk eats i kinda want to try to get this one

[fiery musk]

Getting its big S4 update, but they aren't trying to get players back, breeding insecurity.

[indigo solar]

Currently? Fairly dead. S4 looks hopeful though, lots of good reworks. If they actually start advertising the game to bring in new players, and have some good bundles and cosmetic sales, we could be so back

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-gif-10061070920122192479

[frozen raven]

Damn, its d2 all over again?

[sullen depot]

Advertising? What’s that

[bitter estuary]

s3 is a filler to sync cn with global, s4 seems hopeful

[fiery musk]

They need to heavily ramp up the cosmetics game if they're killing the Pull revenue like this.

[obtuse folio]

Crota skins when 👀

[frozen raven]

Wish yall luck. I honestly wish I was as into this game as I was in the alpha

[bitter estuary]

this used to be such a rare thing

they added a way to get it immediately by rival tokens 🥀

[tight talon]

Well cause it's a distribution problem controlled by global capital.

We have a food production capacity of 10 billion, and yet there's 1 in 11 people facing hunger and chronic malnourishment and the number keeps rising.

||A slave's definition of freedom is to own slaves 💀 ||

[frozen raven]

Also I noticed your clan tag. Insomnia still a thing?

[bitter estuary]

you should hop back in to test the waters on s4, otherwise thats it, i assume next rehaul is in 2027

at that point i'd prolly be quiting the game but im prolly gonna stick to the game til the 2nd anniversary (if it does reach it)

[sullen depot]

The talk was they are aiming for a big expansion twice a year so bi-seasonally. So will have to see

[bitter estuary]

here's the thing, i dont think there's gonna be a change around the last quarter of this year so maybe q1/q2 2027 instead of q3/q4 2026

[frozen raven]

If I had the money to spend I'm sure I'd be playing a lot more. But for now bungie tricked me into spending money on marathon and I'm enjoying it.

[indigo solar]

No :(

[fiery musk]

Overkill still exists, but we all disappeared after S1.

[frozen raven]

Id be sorry but they were huge jerks in the alpha.

[fiery musk]

S2 not delivering any new content was a killer.

[frozen raven]

Who are the big dogs now?

[bitter estuary]

fuggers i think?

[fiery musk]

We need a seasonal story chapter.
We need a seasonal Strike drop to spice up the Calamity Ops scene.

[bitter estuary]

s3 technically had a story

[frozen raven]

Hm, not a clan i heard of from back then.

[bitter estuary]

but it was just weekly bits for 7 weeks straight

[fiery musk]

I experienced that. Was bizarre.

[indigo solar]

There were like 3 that were bad, they either got kicked or severely reprimanded

[frozen raven]

Ooo drama. Was it any of the founders? You don't have to go into details if you don't want to

[bitter estuary]

i fear it's gonna be a common occurance, i expect s5 to be the same

[fiery musk]

Will be better than S2 at least.

But I do expect more going forward.

[frozen raven]

Also thank you guys for giving me honest answers, I tried asking about the state of the game the other day and I got dragged by some random person. Turned out to be a whale and I realized that I should just ignore them

[regal gulch]

It looks amazing

[bitter estuary]

was this on reddit

[frozen raven]

No dude it was on HERE. I blocked them I don't remember their name

[bitter estuary]

it works so well if you have ning in his paid skin

[ruby jetty]

Do we all think destiny 2s downfall is effecting destiny rising

[candid phoenix]

the sentiment around d2 definitely hasn't helped

[bitter estuary]

oh its genarrows

[frozen raven]

I'll admit I probably came off the wrong way by asking "is the game still alive" but I tried to reason with them. Big mistake

[indigo solar]

A good portion of them are ex Insomniacs but it's mostly just calops people

[ruby jetty]

It sucks for netease there game is in a half defent state

[indigo solar]

No, one of them was drunk all the time, one tried baiting randoms to play against insomnia and one just shut down anyone not in insomnia

[twilit thistle]

You got kicked from insomnia? || jk obviously||

[delicate mango]

Nice

[candid phoenix]

around launch much of the sentiment was "oh my god this is better than D2" but as time's gone on I think all the comparisons and lack of advertising and interesting activities in Rising's gameplay loop has lost a lot of people

[frozen raven]

Yeah that name rings a bell

[delicate mango]

Ah so that exotic s4 i just pick up was that

[tight talon]

Rising itself is shooting itself in the foot. If D2 was having such terrible stuff due to Marathon, Rising could have pulled ahead.

[ruby jetty]

Well rising are pulling back slughtly this uodate lets hope it keeps up before it out of services

[candid phoenix]

yeah that S4 exotic engram can decrypt into one of the new onslaught exotics: Cloudstrike, Thunderlord, Wardriff Coil

[fiery musk]

I hope they improve how to get prior battlepass exotics.

[tight talon]

But they were already investing Dev time in changing stuff again after having Alpha and Beta for the last 4? Years

[delicate mango]

I see

[frozen raven]

I don't understand what you mean by play against or shutting down, but it doesn't sound good.

[fiery musk]

Personally, I'm worried S4 is the last season, but...

[tight talon]

Unlikely

[ruby jetty]

Netease won't stop this early in the games cycle

[tight talon]

Considering they added so much stuff, it's atleast acceptable that they gonna run another 2 seasons

[fiery musk]

They've done it before.

[frozen raven]

They'd give this game 2 years at least wouldn't they?

[indigo solar]

Saying stuff like guaranteed exotic drops from PvP, and then basically just calling anyone not in insomnia a nobody that doesn't know what they're talking about and obviously worse at the game

[ruby jetty]

Yeah but the games slowly turning around towards greener grass they're most likely gonna give it a shot

[twilit thistle]

😭 I dont wanna spend it. But i think i have to.

[fiery musk]

I'd be expecting to see advertisement campaigns and trying to get players back for this half anniversary update if they thought it would help.

[fiery musk]

Oof

[ruby jetty]

Yeah they need to advertise

[sharp talon]

just let them convert and roll the dice

[fiery musk]

You don't have to spend it. They're "settling" our pinnacle energy.

But I think you have to spend it for Path of Glory credit.

[cyan tide]

Day 1 players probably maxed the amount needed for path of glory long ago

[candid phoenix]

Unless they're gonna do some ridiculous stuff I think that spending all of your yellow pinnacle daily should be enough for the max reward of past glory. If they're really accounting for ppl buying every single pack of extra pinnacle that's gotta be really greedy

[frozen raven]

Ugh, that sounds familiar. My clan was competing for the speed run on Isaakis against insomnia back in the alpha. They would get on at like 5am to beat our record before the daily reset, and then proceeded to recruit half of my clan.

[fiery musk]

Maybe. I was 100% using all resources available throughout S0 and S1 though.

Including the paid pinnacle energy

So... hopefully I get max credit. Lol

[dusty spire]

Mate GM LC GL GL

[twilit thistle]

Are u sure? I figured it would be the things they are asking us to spend in the event tbh

odd that fruits arent in there 😂

[dusty spire]

Depends it’s just split into two progressive areas so pick of split

Chaos for hero upgrades lc for weapons

[indigo solar]

Okay sorry this is really funny to me bc we didn't do it at 5am to snatch it last minute, but just bc that was the only time we could all get online at the same time

[twilit thistle]

Fruits from chaos are gonna get thanos snapped into oblivion tho. Is it worth it? I have 1k

[sharp talon]

they said they would convert into season tokens

[indigo solar]

We had some people that worked nights and some that worked days so we could only do runs in the early morning or evening

[dusty spire]

I went all In for cores

[sharp talon]

given how much people have i wonder about how bad the conversion will be for fruit

[twilit thistle]

My other argument being are we sure it will be easy to do these next season? Or will the difficulty increase

[dusty spire]

Just a system revamp nothing to worry about imo

[frozen raven]

Bruhh

SO IT WAS YOU

[twilit thistle]

Yea but we are going to get sunset

[dusty spire]

Most of us will have the base line hit or almost if your 71k+ now but I could be wrong

[indigo solar]

Yeah I'm That1Guy 🫠

[dusty spire]

Your just gonna be tweaking upgrades from rng

And trying to unlock what ever is needed through some experience for the hero

The biggest part is we will have objectives to do again until we hit the gate again

Phases will be set to stop us progressing way to fast

[frozen raven]

Like some of you guys were chill and the competition was fun but man there were some egos I'm ngl

[dusty spire]

Let it linger over the 80 days lol

[twilit thistle]

im at least gonna keep a diverse portfolio

[bitter estuary]

the balls

[dusty spire]

I hope we get another hero though

Not pumped up for the new release tbf

Still got to see skills ect but yeah :/

[indigo solar]

Yeah yoda is gone and frosty has chilled out a lot

Akernan is still kinda crazy but he's Akernan

[twilit thistle]

🥺 can i join

[indigo solar]

I mean, if you want

[frozen raven]

I'll never forgive that tomar guy for leaving

[indigo solar]

We only had like four people online last week

[twilit thistle]

Im only team lvl 80 🥺 ill be the fifth

[bitter estuary]

lucy balls

[frozen raven]

Oh yeah that guy was a bit much

[solar narwhal]

hi

[summer kite]

Im up to 5 paragon board gem boxes, hope that gives me a huge advantage going into S4 😮

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-cry-falls-to-my-knees-fell-to-my-knees-shout-gif-939045163748049478

I only got 2

[stark forge]

cool, 1 slot upgrade consumes 5 boxes

[rotund raptor]

Guys is it just me or do u also experience high lag when playing shifting

[round grove]

I recently borrowed someone's Gwynn for legendary campaign, and she's... honestly not that good? Might just be me having le skill issue, but it felt like Concerto itself was shooting Nerf darts compared to many other primary weapons I've used

[rotund raptor]

Did 1 game after luke 1 month not playing it and was at at least 300ms constantly

[candid phoenix]

she got powercrept really badly

[round grove]

yeah...

[candid phoenix]

ikora's dash reload literally is so much better lol

[empty kettle]

Got her using water guns instead of guns

[round grove]

light grenade launchers are and have been pretty good

[cyan tide]

Concerto really needs full stacks to deal good damage, make sure to farm red bars to get to 4x faster

[candid phoenix]

ngl i like the mythic pisols more, not the fallen ones

[bitter estuary]

she's prolly still good in specifically void impact content because of the ER but otherwise eh

[round grove]

just that people really don't know how to use them without the instant reload button lol

imagine a light gl with sympathetic arsenal 👀

[tall anvil]

OUGH

[cyan tide]

It's so easy to spam shots with lgls tho, just press the shoot and reload button at the same time and then reload cancel for best results

[tall anvil]

That would be huge

[tall anvil]

I've seen how nutty Nu-Ikora is and I know the fragment-buy system is coming, is the Rising Lights draw system being retired too? I'm 1 point off from pity and dk if I should pull on another 5* or wait until Ikora gets added for a free gem

[round grove]

Pretty sure Rising Lights is staying lol

[tall anvil]

tiiiiight

[indigo solar]

No, save your pity

[candid phoenix]

the fragment system is only going to get you 1 choice char per season i think

[round grove]

Neo Ikora is getting added to standard after event

[indigo solar]

Probably 2, one from grinding and one from the event

[rotund raptor]

Wait for kikora

[round grove]

also pretty sure standard pity resets

[tall anvil]

Oh really?

[candid phoenix]

yeah 2 total chars, but only 1 choice i think. Or 3 total if we count half season char?

[round grove]

bc new character

[tall anvil]

Ahh so I gotta pull regardless in that case. Reckon either Kabr to have him or Ning for an extra gem if it's gonna reset?

[stark forge]

so does it reload 1 shot or it does not

[rotund raptor]

Looks cool where u found this

[round grove]

wait, is it the choice of mythic that you get after 180 pulls?

If so, then save

[indigo solar]

No

[rotund raptor]

Yes

[indigo solar]

It didn't reset with Kabr

[indigo solar]

Unknown

But likely

[fiery musk]

The notice reads to me like the Elemental Condensante can't be used for Talent dupes.

[indigo solar]

Was playable in the beta through Ikora's character trial

[round grove]

tbf, kabr and ikora were their own event characters, and got added to or are going to be added to rising lights

[indigo solar]

Exactly, so why would rising lights pity reset for ikora but not Kabr

[rotund raptor]

Ohh nice

[tall anvil]

Yeah

[round grove]

then save

I thought you all were referring to the 60-pull pity lol

[rotund raptor]

If u have done 180 pulls wait for ikora to go standard and get her talent

Im waiting for that to t6 her

[round grove]

Which would reset with the new season, on account of there being a new seasonal limited character

[indigo solar]

The standard pity wouldn't

Ikora's pity doesn't holdover bc she's an event char

[sullen depot]

The standard banner pity never resets

[indigo solar]

But normal limited pities do holdover so pity should go back to your Jaren pity

[round grove]

... Huh. Could've sworn it at least did at some point

[indigo solar]

Nope

[rotund raptor]

If efridet banner is at what we left jaren then i need 60 for her lol

[sullen depot]

Ur talking about the main banner for ikora and kabr that got reset

But that’s a special case

[round grove]

I distinctly remember standard draw pity being reset between Estela and Helhest banners, maybe my memory is just blatantly wrong idk

[indigo solar]

It is

[cyan tide]

I only need 5 🙏

[indigo solar]

Or you shifted realities

[round grove]

that could be the case lmao

[rotund raptor]

Barely got jaren lol since i started to late in marus banner and had not much leaves

[cyan tide]

Mandela effect aka you're remembering wrong

[rotund raptor]

Hope u get her at ur 1st pull

I would suggest to use the 10 pulls maybe u can get double efri

[round grove]

I somehow got Maru twice in my first 10 pull

Needless to say I was really happy about that (as someone who actually knows how to use LGLs)

[rotund raptor]

Its luck i git to t5 ikora with 130 140 pulls

While for kabbr t2 i needed more lol

[agile spindle]

Is this the last season before eos

[cyan tide]

That's the plan, I might go for T3 or something since I have a lot of pulls saved

[rotund raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/countdooku-justbeginning-beginning-gif-21275421

[round grove]

If all goes well, eos won't be happening (hopefully)

[rotund raptor]

Get her to t0 and if she is badass why not go for more

[sullen depot]

https://tenor.com/view/ratz-tamameme-tamadotmeme-tama-meme-tama-mart-gif-13423756404054395343

[glad valve]

Well no tweet no nothing.

[round grove]

hand cannon sniper... could run old prefect for the classic shotgun sniper loadout

[rotund raptor]

Tomorow dont worry

[glad valve]

[rotund raptor]

I will put my tlw for begining then see hiw things go

Or imma build crimson

[cyan tide]

T0 is free and I'm pretty much guaranteed to get T1, depending on my luck I'll stop at T2 or T3. Though since the season is gonna last 12 weeks it might be better to go for more, I'll have time to save for the next mythic anyway

[rotund raptor]

[sullen depot]

Honestly I won’t be surprised if they drop the video on the day of. So then new pple who watch it or returning plays can start playing instantly. Especially since Aztecross is also streaming it

[round grove]

Speaking of Crimson, how does it interact with Welling Light shots from Jaren's moveset?

[glad valve]

I can see it been tomorrow. You are right tbh. Always the day before huh

[rotund raptor]

Getting the characters wont be that much of a problem anymire i think so yea. The only thing we should worry is grindbfor weapons and artis

[rotund raptor]

Of course thats the way lol

[stark forge]

1 crimson burst consumes 3 well stacks

[glad valve]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

[cyan tide]

It doesn't generate extra stag protection and each shot consumes 3 well stacks so it's bad

[round grove]

ah well

[rotund raptor]

Ok ill pull my parole or work on a del

[cyan tide]

I'm pretty sure they put the stag generation cooldown specifically to kill crimson

[rotund raptor]

Whatsver but the bp one lol

[glad valve]

What’s wrong with the crimson

[stark forge]

its just wrong for jaren

[rotund raptor]

The only bp weapon that rocks imo is arby and im glad i bought that bp

[stark forge]

outside of that its fine

[rotund raptor]

Oh we talking about jaren

[wide dagger]

crimson bad for him ?

[rotund raptor]

I thought it bad for everyone

[wide dagger]

But I was trying to max it out bec I can’t max the last words

[glad valve]

I thought there was going be a nerf then

[cyan tide]

I think it works very well on Attal, it'll be interesting to see if it works on Efrideet or if they pull something like with Jaren to make it have anti-synergy

[rotund raptor]

I used crimson on my attal almost 2 months when i started then i switched to parole for her and arby

[stark forge]

jaren use efs and swordbreak setup for no exotics

[glad valve]

I like attal crimson is good on her

[rotund raptor]

True true

Idk but i have used cri.son parole and efs on attal and they all rock on her

[glad valve]

Because she is the best female

[rotund raptor]

Shee good

[candid phoenix]

what's the go-to swordbreaker roll?

[stark forge]

anni eager

[glad valve]

I so want Gwynn

[candid phoenix]

She's a really cool character, hopefully the new systems are able to improve her somehow

[glad valve]

I have a few weapons for her. She never wants to pop out to me

[empty kettle]

That "hopefully" is carrying the world right now

[candid phoenix]

I'm just trying my best to not be a doomposter 😭 I really like the game and want it to succeed but i'm wearing thin brother

[storm scroll]

late, but it's a mix of some old groups from alpha/beta and players that came after launch.

[stark forge]

just join the doom train before the update comes

[storm scroll]

yes and no

[swift garnet]

I am having to meditate 4 hours per night after 2 bottles of Japan's finest whisky and matcha tea to keep my optimism up🧘‍♂️☯️

[indigo solar]

It is not over. It is not even the beginning of the end. No, it is but the end of the beginning

[storm scroll]

mainy bad for weapon mastery. Not actually bad

[swift garnet]

Cosmic philosophy right here, love it☯️🧘‍♂️

[indigo solar]

And prefect generating 8 stacks per shot (plus dot stacks)

[candid phoenix]

Is swordbreaker better than Thermopylae?

[indigo solar]

What's really dumb tho is crimson not launching 3 missiles on attal

[indigo solar]

In general no. It's got some niches for calops one tapping shinkas though

[storm scroll]

have you used prefect recently?

[indigo solar]

It's awful

[candid phoenix]

oh does it do the same overload damage like arbalest

[indigo solar]

I'm saying without the cooldown, each hit from prefect would generate a stack, and it fires 8(?) pellets per shot

[stark forge]

simply has better well stacks and ammo economy

[storm scroll]

that last change cemented it's demise. the range was already boo boo

[swift garnet]

From your understanding, is it possible to transfer artifact attributes once season 4 arrives?

[indigo solar]

No, it just does more damage per shot but lower dps

[indigo solar]

Yes

[storm scroll]

anti fun fixes

[bitter estuary]

depends

[swift garnet]

Thanks for this☯️

[bitter estuary]

its very situational, thermo is overall the better pick

[storm scroll]

It's only better if your job is solely to break shinkas

[indigo solar]

Swordbreaker is better for Xuan for solar content tho

For what it's worth

[rotund raptor]

That reminded me i let this mari ate a lot lol and need to catch up

[bitter estuary]

so is niaatiks?

[candid phoenix]

i heard the animation wasn't too good

[bitter estuary]

but anyways

[storm scroll]

I remember when pack mates used to hate on me for being #1 John weeeeeener

[indigo solar]

Yes but swordbreaker does better than Niaatiks since it also gets the multiplicative solar buff from your artifacts

[storm scroll]

good times

[rotund raptor]

Ah no anime lol i have moved from that

[indigo solar]

He's never been a great character but he's always been a fun one

[pulsar coral]

Na pack ?

Need one

[candid phoenix]

https://discord.com/channels/1267806213656023071/1391468035981836420

[rotund raptor]

#1391468035981836420

[candid phoenix]

now that i look at that channel they should probably purge old posts or something

all the top ones are pretty old

[rotund raptor]

Last time checked was 1 month ago

The emea ones get slots open casually lol

[storm scroll]

agreed

[glad valve]

People question. What’s 2+2

[bitter estuary]

5

[rotund raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/thinknig-cat-math-iq-highiq-gif-27413380

[fiery musk]

2+2 is 2+2

[rotund raptor]

To advanced sorry

[glad valve]

According to Jimmy it’s 5

[fiery musk]

Bool X = 2 + 2;
Print(X);

True

[stark forge]

22 ?

[vague flume]

6tu1S1qx

[ruby jetty]

My man

[ruby jetty]

Not according to me according to a song lyric it is

[rotund raptor]

#🎁│in-game-binding

[ruby jetty]

Clown you don't have to do this

[rotund raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/maths-gif-24525141

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-of-course-ohhhh-oh-that-makes-sense-gif-11896286840118452668

[glad valve]

Come on

[bitter estuary]

Its actually 67

[ruby jetty]

Brainrotted

[rotund raptor]

69

[stark forge]

AI won't job your take but someone who AI your will who take AI usage limits 2x MCP grok slop claude fast skill autoresearch open claw llamas seekdeep agentic million context gpu copilot h̸a̵r̶n̴e̸s̵s̸ b̷̡̲̃̑e̴̜͇͂n̶͉̓̍c̸̳̿h̶̺̗̓̌m̶͇̱̚a̶̙̬rk wi͂l̴͈̞̤͆l̷̥̲͑̐

[rotund raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/esmbot-this-image-couldnt-be-completed-esm-bot-super-bowl2022-gif-24877535

[bitter estuary]

2+2 = balls

[cyan tide]

They patched the dot giving stacks anyway, really did everything they could to make TLW BiS

[bitter estuary]

That being said

Empty fort strategy

[stark forge]

still dissapoint in dps for a mythic hero

[indigo solar]

Yeah I really only mentioned it so people would know I was talking about each pellet giving stacks, not dot

[cyan tide]

Oh right, I somehow forgot that prefect shoots pellets lol

[bitter estuary]

shiny

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar full auto borealis is kinda nice ngl

[tall anvil]

is four-horned ram still best-in-slot for Ikora 2? Saw vorp/cluster for dps synergy even if they're not the highest option in slot

[sullen depot]

4horn was only Bis previously because of the stack generation which got nerfed

[tall anvil]

What's BIS now?

[sullen depot]

truth / ttf. there is also another exotic RL coming next season as a raid weapon. wardcliff coil

[tall anvil]

very true. wonder if it will be ludicrous like it was originally in d2

I saw the new mythic lgl and it looks great for pairing with the exotic rockets

[vagrant depot]

It's why use it on my Tan, it's pretty damn good

[brisk moon]

whats the fastest adventure to do for those "use offense characters to complete a total of 3 adventures"

[balmy raft]

Strike

[rotund raptor]

Lc

[balmy raft]

that too

[brisk moon]

ty

[candid phoenix]

Singularity chaos counts too

[glad valve]

[thorny obsidian]

almost there 🙏

[cerulean snow]

Guys, does the pulls from other exclusive get inherited into the next exclusive character?

[vagrant depot]

No, they just go towards the standard banner, which then that premium character will be added to like the recent Kabor

[cerulean snow]

That's a shame

[vagrant depot]

I'd say it's a good thing, cause hey it makes it easier to try and get new 5* characters easily

[thorny frost]

Wait if I understand this correctly you are asking if pity carries over from one limited banner to the next? If so then yes the pity count does, but our last 2 “limited” banners were event banners so any extra pulls towards pity will not transfer over and those units will be sent over to the permanent banner afterwards.

The next unit we are guessing will be a limited unit, and not an event unit. But season 4 stuff is always “to be seen” right now.

[twilit thistle]

Bet i could shave off a few more mins if i got the right gifts. Def a pb for weapon master

[cerulean snow]

That's fair, I'm currently trying to earn as much leaves as possible for the next unit

[cerulean snow]

Ohhh yes that is what I was asking

I didn't know how to word it out lmao

[vagrant depot]

Been doing that as well, currently at 3 or 4,000

[cerulean snow]

I am at 4,130

It's been a long grind for me

[thorny frost]

So ikora pity will not be transferred as she is event tho. So if you are looking for the next unit I wouldn’t do any extra pulls on her banner.

[cerulean snow]

I've only used the event currency that was given freely so I suppose that didn't affect much

I've heard something about triumph so I've been trying to find those
I thought it meant like the previous boss fight or smth

[thorny frost]

Triumphs is just this section, it is little achievements you get by playing the game/modesp

[cerulean snow]

Ohhhhhh

[twilit thistle]

Lassi with bear approaches the mod that boosts rate of fire, and another 30% from that gift, precision refills mag, auto crit, and 7m concussion. I mean its essentially an auto rifle.

[thorny frost]

Yea it don’t affect much “optimal” use of the event banner if you aren’t going to do extra pulls, is basically pull the unit once then stop. Extra ever charms will be transferred over to permanent charms which they could be used to increase the permanent banner 180 count pity. If you used all of them it isn’t a big deal tho.