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[regal gulch]

Hold up what about over clock capacitor i have 417 atm lol

[oak temple]

wtef

[tight talon]

I mean they are giving tokens so you can use them in next season. Don't know the ratio of return but it should be definitive

[empty kettle]

Huh?

[exotic sinew]

Could’ve been a direct promo or yeah they were lower rank

[storm scroll]

Saving for the end times lol

[regal gulch]

Literally lol

[empty kettle]

Idk

[dusty spire]

So use up normal PE?

[storm scroll]

No he's not. You get rewarded for built characters lol. He's going to be grinding his nuts off

[oak temple]

you're right, I've jumped to Master 1 from E1 relegation threshold lol

btw should I T6 Hikora?

[dusty spire]

I mean he has a wide option with resources to focus a hero up

That’s definitely a plus

[signal blaze]

Honestly my biggest concern is nowhere in this book of an announcement did they mention how they will monetize. Like from a business perspective where’s the revenue come from. There’s still a battle pass and still some draws for higher tiers I think and I guess buying silver for the limited selection of cosmetics but nothing really new to spend on so how do they plan to increase revenue

[gritty rune]

But hopefully like, not garbage.

Every Traveller and Aero Rover is just so bad

[storm scroll]

You'll be good on mats but you'll be losing a lot of those.

You are going to have to build some units if you want max buffs and power

[empty kettle]

The light WILL provide

[regal gulch]

What mats we losing?

[gritty rune]

The Wolf we have right now isn’t too bad though.

[tight talon]

It's easy to expect them to sell old character fragments. Whether they upset the meta immediately by selling 40 fragments or only sell 5 old character fragments per act is upto them. Bare minimum expectation atp

[gritty rune]

You still have to pull for talents

[storm scroll]

He's going to get a bunch of rare s4 stuff but he's still going to have to upgrade a bunch of stuff. Don't get me wrong he's in good shape. But mainly for getting characters he wants and upgrading the kits. Which IS an advantage. He'll be grinding like the rest of us though if he's wants to be stacked

[storm scroll]

Lol. More like they take them and give you some s4 stuff that we dont actually know what's in there.

I'll find the screenshot and send it to you bro

[signal blaze]

I mean we can expect anything but they haven’t said anything if feels like they’re just giving us more and more for free so less incentive to spend

[signal spade]

you need players to play before you ask them for money

[gritty rune]

Tbh my main concern is that what they announced in S4 doesn’t seem to really address the loot or buildcrafting issues which are mainly why the endgame loop doesn’t work

[signal spade]

theyre prob gonna up the skin game at some point and sell shards straight up

[remote grove]

This patch is definitely aimed at increasing player numbers. We may see more plays at monetization (cosmetics, old characters) soon, but first they wanna get the numbers up clearly

[native kiln]

Whats up with the discord event? It said i dont have access to it.

[gritty rune]

Like the reworked gun development is basically what we have but with more steps now

And the artefact rework is kind of worse? Cos base stat is RNG and you can’t change it

[signal spade]

did you read anything man

[gritty rune]

Yeah all of it

[magic lichen]

its ok. ill carry you.

[signal spade]

you can up the base stats

youre like eeyore in mobile app form

'the new system for weapons thats completely different isnt better than the one we have now even though ive never seen it and the 15 new weapons they added isnt enough loot'

like do you hear yourself lmao

[signal blaze]

I mean I understand the need to increase players but will they last another season of declining revenue before adding more monetization I mean they can do both but not go to heavy on the money asking

[scarlet mica]

Hey 👋

[gritty rune]

Idk it sounds to me like it’s just RNG and you keep grinding to find better stats

[remote grove]

It could be a soon as a couple weeks tbh, who knows. But if they get enough players back in they will definitely have more people whaling for t6 etc

[empty kettle]

Read the last one

[signal spade]

it sounds like you can use dupes to up it or dupes will drop higher progressively

[signal blaze]

I remain excited but cautious about this many changes all at once

[gritty rune]

Do tell how it’s different in the end.

It’s basically enhancement levsl = stars now, and perks have RNG on themselves instead of on mods

Ie, basically the same thing in the end but with more steps

[signal spade]

describe your ideal system

[remote grove]

Hopefully its a hit not a miss. Adding a new difficulty to raids and strikes and replacing calamity with cordon is definitely a win in my books. All the weapon chances/artifacts/paragon tree is definitely gunna be a wait and see angle lol

[native kiln]

Where are you guys seeing this info? I didnt see it in the patch notes on the official website

[empty kettle]

He's going to mention WWM

[signal spade]

i know.

[signal blaze]

I’m in total agreement with that sentiment

[gritty rune]

Yeah ie, you farm for artefacts with better base stats

[empty kettle]

"Same artifacts"

[signal spade]

a game where you can swap your entire build to a different weapon archetype whenever you want

[gritty rune]

Idk if that’s better or worse, depending on how it works in practice. Hence ‘kinda’

[tight talon]

Gonna be painful cause now we need right perks and right substats and only way to level up is getting higher * rarity. While one of the mods also needs to be Expert Exotic while others are Adept.

Pain

[cyan tide]

In game patch notes

[signal spade]

game gonna be grindy

[gritty rune]

I’m fine with expert/adept mods if they provide cool effects instead of just more stats.

I’m down for a good godroll chase

[tight talon]

Gonna miss the days when I could spend 20 energy, get a random drop of weapon and immediately max it in 18 engrams cause some dudes wanted to play this as their second job

/s

[empty kettle]

A single adept exotic mod can be equipped

[gritty rune]

My issue is that, outside of maybe adept mods, this doesn’t look like it’s adding anything to the system

[tight talon]

Exotic mods have "Expert" parameter.

While adepts go on other slots

[gritty rune]

Like, it sounds like you still get the same gun in the end, but just with more steps

I was hoping you can customise guns more with different passives and effects

[signal spade]

its a better gun lol with more variation in power depending on how much you farmed

thats called using another gun

[empty kettle]

Same gun different stats

[signal spade]

youre like asking to be able to turn bad juju into outbreak

[signal phoenix]

How do I get pulls for the gacha?

[signal spade]

instead of just equipping outbreak lol what is the difference

[gritty rune]

You can upgrade stars, You can transfer perks, it’s the same thing in the end. There’s no variation

[tight talon]

I couldn't care less about power. I want relevant stats to be in substats.

The hell am I gonna do with reduced draw time on Handcannon and have to wait till I drop one with Reload Speed instead

[empty kettle]

Bounties or events

[magic lichen]

at this point.. play s4 or just quit. lmao

[signal phoenix]

Ah okay 👍

[signal spade]

true

[remote grove]

Lumia leaves/silver

[rotund raptor]

Just spent like 700 pinnacle on legendary camapign hard mide and still no photon gah daym

[remote grove]

I chose neither : P

[signal spade]

youre legit saying you want to be able to turn your scout rifle into a completely different scout rifle when you can just equip a completely different scout rifle

[magic lichen]

i want the game my way and i want it now!

[tight talon]

I don't think Magazine size exists on any RL so it will become Truth

[remote grove]

🥲

[signal blaze]

I’m down for the grind it’s so much better than this week run gm campaign for 80 pin twice and do daily pack hunt and well I guess I’ll do it again tomorrow morning cause I’m already in a good spot in clam ops and don’t need any exotics from raids and done with all shifting gates seal and have all characters maxed besides the final tier of weapon mastery and have all the mythic weapon rolls I want and mods to match. Anyway I’m glad we will have more to actually do and grind for

[tight talon]

Would I want it? Yeah cause Clown Cartridge

[gritty rune]

Err no? Like allocation vector is still gonna be unique to the fallen SR

I’m saying let us add things like ammo drop boosts, up recoil for harder hits etc

[signal spade]

are you sure thats not part of the mastery change

[golden spade]

Oh god! 💀. The Rng! Ure right 😕. So we need a perfect match on artifacts to upgrade

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[sullen depot]

dw let him keep waffling without knowing what any of the changes could even be

[remote grove]

Server is gunna be down all day Thursday, isnt it 😆

[sullen depot]

probably

[magic lichen]

we dont even have all the info until the patch actually takes effect.

[signal spade]

didnt they announce there was a new tree thing to bridge character weapon mastery with their guns

[gritty rune]

The emenare thing?

[storm scroll]

Real

[magic lichen]

tf is the point of speculation and crying? lol

[rotund raptor]

Gliding thw characters is useless? Or should i just keep those resourxes so they covert to s4 mats

[empty kettle]

For all we know they could have missed something

[tight talon]

No, artifacts just need same named piece to upgrade albeit it needs one on higher gear level to upgrade

[empty kettle]

Keep

[signal spade]

they had a system similar to what youre asking for in alpha/beta and i thought one of their posts made it sound like it was coming back

[signal blaze]

Gilding is dead

[signal spade]

but it could not be idk we'll see next week

[rotund raptor]

What about the mythic engrams should i use em and the. Dismantle the weapons to get mythic parametres

[empty kettle]

The reveal is tomorrow btw

[magic lichen]

save your panic for tmr.

[rotund raptor]

What can more be revealed lol

[sullen depot]

or just wait till patch drops. simple

[tight talon]

Keep, I don't think they are going away

[magic lichen]

its friday. stop stressing

[signal spade]

i need my raid trailer in 1440p so i can launch on mumu and be sad it looks like a gamecube

[empty kettle]

There is always a possibility

[rotund raptor]

True

[magic lichen]

im tryna minmax my runs on blackberry

[signal spade]

use the pen

[gritty rune]

Each gun has different base attributes and perk pools.

You can add mods for passives like ammo efficiency.

You can put different sights, magazines etc on the gun to customise how it works.

And let us use decals on guns

[magic lichen]

wish granted.

[signal spade]

im down with decals on guns but the rest of it youre like asking for weapon frames instead of guns and thats just like never been how destiny functioned

[tight talon]

Wish granted. Welcome to Helldivers 2

[gritty rune]

Look, if I wanted the grunt experience I’ll just go to work

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-salute-gif-8108032990738097175

[remote grove]

Nerf please grant my wish

[rotund raptor]

Is helldivers worth it?

[stark forge]

let me use 2 exotic heavy with infinite ammo

[tight talon]

They did say Modular Weapon system.

And that basically means frame with attach and detach stuff.

[exotic sinew]

HH will be nerfed when rapid fire and spread is the cycle

[rotund raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/i-would-never-do-such-a-thing-no-my-lord-gif-6442281543156272276

[gritty rune]

I mean, DR as whole isn’t like how Destiny functions

[signal blaze]

I hope they’ll actually let us use some of the 20k mythic weapon parameters I have on the new weapons and not have such a low cap on engrams cause when you could only buy 20 in season 3 I was making more weapon parameters than I could spend on the new weapons I didn’t have

[bitter estuary]

isnt that... how the new upgrade system works

[signal spade]

well you can pop in and out mods now without losing anything which is a step in that direction

[empty kettle]

If you want to experience some space Vietnam, then go for it

[remote grove]

😂 oh god

[tight talon]

Not happening. Competent teammates who break shields on time easily let her do her thing

[amber iris]

Do you guys think we will be able to equip different weapon types to different characters?

[rotund raptor]

Ohhh good to know lol

[gritty rune]

No. It’s basically the same thing but mods don’t give perk upgrades anymore and instead you grind for godrolls to transfer

[stark forge]

i think he wants cod mw customization system

[tight talon]

No

[empty kettle]

You have to earn the weapons first before being able to engram it

[gritty rune]

There’s adept mods, which may or may not offer something more interesting

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/bombastic-side-eye-gif-10871198272108326257

[magic lichen]

its ok games dead. go back to sleep.

[tight talon]

Don't forget Expert Exotic mod. We equipping one of them as well

[stark forge]

no better time to doom than before an update

[tight talon]

[empty kettle]

Before the reveal

[signal spade]

yea them adding hard mode raid and exclusive loot to hard mode raid is hype

[tight talon]

Company earns a $, f2p waste their time, that's why we all doompost on our free time

[stark forge]

doompost eventually became the endgame loop

[tight talon]

Ranked Doompost Ladder

[bitter estuary]

if you doompost so much just go back to wwm or whatever that person glazed idk

[magic lichen]

let the hate flow through you.

[rotund raptor]

They should pay the doomers

[remote grove]

Pay in tears

[stark forge]

this mobile game is fire i delete warframe just to play

[tight talon]

9 gorbilion leaves now

[gritty rune]

Also:

where is this?

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-of-sparta-rage-kratos-kratos-rage-gif-18061193

[magic lichen]

s4

[gritty rune]

Where’s the modular weapon system that integrates inti relics?

[empty kettle]

Probably mistranslation

[tight talon]

It's called new weapons

They really made 2 new LGLs

[magic lichen]

i think netease abused him.

[rotund raptor]

Solar?

[remote grove]

Feels like we've been playing the beta this entire time and now the real game is being released thursday

[stark forge]

idk just know that new overhaul coming, netease gpt makes no sense half the time with its translation

[tight talon]

No clue, but assuming 1 Void and 1 Solar

[bitter estuary]

some of the systems in game were gacha slop so it'd take a while for them to actually make a complete overhaul, so....

[gritty rune]

NetEase and your father shares a common hobby

[empty kettle]

This was all just a big open beta test

[rotund raptor]

Thats cool so we wont need the drill

[magic lichen]

two peas in a pod.

[gritty rune]

I’m in your walls

[tight talon]

Btw you can't spell Cury Mury Without getting censored

inb4 nobody tells newbie what LGL they should run

[magic lichen]

you must be new.

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/gasp-shocked-surprised-wow-reaction-gif-26502778

[gritty rune]

Had to wait in line

[stark forge]

curry gun with gugugaga onslaught raid this update will be 🔥 🔥 🔥

[bitter estuary]

just say void lgl, unless the other lgl is also void somehow

[magic lichen]

pull a ticket.

[gritty rune]

67

[magic lichen]

hes cookin.

[sullen depot]

i mean if its a ||waveframe|| can just say taht instead too

[stark forge]

be careful netease will somehow give it the most dogwater perk

[indigo solar]

Already reported to mods

[indigo solar]

Other should be solar

But RAHHHH IST3 and Wardcliff

[signal spade]

surely we get an estela rerun RIGHT

[rotund raptor]

Hopfully

[tight talon]

Cloudstrike and Thunderlord 🔥

[empty kettle]

2 new auto rifles for Wolf and finnalla

[tight talon]

Inb4 Cloudstrike bis for Efrideet

[indigo solar]

😎

[signal blaze]

First they do 2 months for HH rerun

[stark forge]

they might rerun helhest before any other

[gritty rune]

Can’t, finishing my Gunpla build atm. No time for games

[tight talon]

🔥 peak prediction

[rotund raptor]

Ppl gonna pour the leaves like crazy to t6 her

[tight talon]

I still hate less time clear, but I'll let it slide cause maybe this time Unstuck isn't breaking anything

[empty kettle]

I won't

[rotund raptor]

Then they nerf her

[signal blaze]

Thunderlord definitely replacing gallows on my Estella

[empty kettle]

Gotta kill everything in the room

[indigo solar]

Still will at highest levels to kill boss in time for advancement

[empty kettle]

Leave no witnesses

[bitter estuary]

balls

[bitter estuary]

yeah surely you didn't play wwm just before sending this 🙄

[tight talon]

Highest is least of my concern, maybe top 3/4th position of the leaderboard it shouldn't be problematic

[stark forge]

cant wait to play new cordon with 2 jade rabbit kabr

[rotund raptor]

Wonder what the activity bundle will have

[empty kettle]

His glaze knows no bound

[bitter estuary]

idk balls

[gritty rune]

Haven’t played for like a week. Done everything in hexi and waiting for new update

[signal blaze]

And cloudstrike will definitely be the go to on edifreet but what handcannon the arc one ? Or one of the new ones maybe

[sullen depot]

everything so far exotic wise has been arc so im guessing bp is also arc weapon but we shall see

[tight talon]

Del 7 Smit, Unless there's a new mythic Arc HC

[sullen depot]

im just waiting for what bugs cloudstrike will have to break the game lol

[stark forge]

definitely arc thats the missing element for snipe exotic

[tight talon]

The humble Borealis:

[empty kettle]

CALUS!! WE'VE COME FOR YOUR LOOT!!!

[tight talon]

[gritty rune]

Will glaze WWM all day for free. Sponsor me NetEase

[empty kettle]

I don't want his load, twin

[tight talon]

[empty kettle]

Double it and give it to the next person

[tight talon]

His load glazes wwm logo (sorry friendly fire )

[signal blaze]

Currently 2 solar 1 arc exotic handcannon and one each type mythic handcannon and I think they confirmed HC is battle pass weapon and cloudstrike a raid weapon so I think del smitt and cloud strike for the loadout. I don’t see izzy or borealis being better or for that matter any the mythic snipers 🤢

[gritty rune]

Explain?

[signal spade]

theres a new hc too right that isnt the exotic

[stark forge]

it will be bp weapon crimson or cloudstrike for efrideet

[signal blaze]

Yea we just don’t know what it is yet

[indigo solar]

Izzy can definitely beat the mythics depending on her kit

[tight talon]

Depends on Efrideet if she has weapon reload ability or not. That + whether cloudstrike maintains its damage bonus when it reloaded.

That could easily push Izzy higher, hell even 40k even if Arc shields are taken care of by someone else

[gritty rune]

Arc precision in a game where HH exists is gonna be interesting

[sullen depot]

if her kit does something similar like how ning is tied to maha and making that weapon busted. then i can see her just being tied to cloud

[signal blaze]

The game does have that power creep making new stuff feel way better

[stark forge]

arc dmg chain will be potent with snipers

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/blazedpx-dojacat-gif-21011536

[tight talon]

I am inclined to believe She's either Ning tier with AoE denial or she's Jaren tier boss melter.

But no movement skills outside her ult.

[signal blaze]

This is where my head goes considering it’s also gonna be a raid weapon like maha

[rotund raptor]

On god i hope it isnt bp wrapon. I cant suffer to get its cat 2 with 0 bp tokens now

[sullen depot]

her ult gonna be gathering storm trustttttt (COPE)

[tight talon]

She's Bladedancer innit

[sullen depot]

i just want gathering storm already 🥲

[empty kettle]

I don't think she can dance with a spear, twin

[stark forge]

its never worth it to buy bp primary especially a pistol

[indigo solar]

What if they give her a blink jump

[signal blaze]

Please no I don’t wanna have to max another bp weapon like we had to with drill being the best option

[tight talon]

Most of the times you don't need BP weapon if they are primary. Unless it's Drill or TLW

[tight talon]

She has a staff again? Mid

[indigo solar]

Even drill is only really because it was the only void lgl, not because it was way better

[stark forge]

even drill is weaker for ikora

[tight talon]

True

[signal blaze]

Could be the only void exotic handcannon

[tight talon]

I mean she's incomplete anyways + Clusters got her and anyways TTF is better now for her

[indigo solar]

Aw man, I'm not getting the challenge mode gild 😔

[sullen depot]

wardcliff coil incoming

[tight talon]

I want Eyes of Tomorrow smh

[indigo solar]

Only have 2/4 of the consecutive weeks of GM clears

[tight talon]

Or Lumina

[empty kettle]

Anyone in EMEA interested in running the hard versions of strikes (when available in s4)

[tight talon]

silence is deafening when we ain't doomposting

[sullen depot]

in the patch notes, the season seems to have phases. i wonder how that is gonna work timeline wise

like when does phase 2 start. when does phase 5 start. we will have to find out

[signal spade]

its probably just 'week'

[signal blaze]

In a perfect world next week we go from doom posting to build crafting

[stark forge]

maybe phases are just seasonal objectives

depends on how quick u complete them

[signal spade]

or it could be like the original campaign with timegates

where we just have a story quest and it timegates every 2-3 days

[sharp talon]

did new info come out?

[rotund raptor]

We are getting 3 new chapters for the campaign right

Cant wait

[tight talon]

Just patch notes ingame

[sharp talon]

thanks checking it

[tight talon]

Lotta stuff changed, copium stocks all time high

[rotund raptor]

But if cal ops go how we will get lumia

[sharp talon]

is this new exotic original to rising?

[empty kettle]

From cordon

[tight talon]

Yeah The Eternal Death

[rotund raptor]

Hopfully its not too hard lol

[sharp talon]

ffs if she power creeps jaren

[tight talon]

I mean it's a precent by now

[rotund raptor]

Nah nah

[tight talon]

[empty kettle]

It's mostly just endurance and being fast enough to kill things

[sharp talon]

wait, calamity is being replaced? we won't have it as an option anymore? actually sad 😭

[stark forge]

but everyone powercrept jaren

[tight talon]

Least obvious bait 🪤

[empty kettle]

At the start of s4 make sure to choose which character you plan on using for the rest of the season

[tight talon]

Will be a pain

[heady fulcrum]

attal with thorn in iron bar...disaster total 🤭🥱💀😈👹

[tight talon]

One side, there's true love. Other side, wiping the floor before enemies spawn

Tough choices

[naive ingot]

I know my choice...

[rotund raptor]

Cant we use all the characters ljke we been doing or is it gonna be hard mats wise

[red geyser]

May I join the strike with you ?

[empty kettle]

With how the new systems work, it will be hard to change course due to the grind

[empty kettle]

Sure

[summer kite]

For minmaxing, you want to use Efrideet or Hairkora for the seasonal emanare system since they receive additional amplification lol

[rotund raptor]

Ah shii

[rotund raptor]

Whats this emanare

[tight talon]

I hope they have slots for 3 characters that resets when act changes. Else it's gonna be a massive massive pain

I don't want all 3 on Day 1 but atleast give me slots to add additional when it's Day 21 and Day 40

[rotund raptor]

Hopfully cuz i like to have diff playstyle at least 3 character lol

[valid laurel]

is anyone having any issues with mumu crashing?

[empty kettle]

I don't want to suffer through the sisyphus of grinding again because I decided to grind a character with nothing to their name

[waxen lantern]

is it worth to buy peacemaker's gifts for ~1$ ?

[empty kettle]

Yes

[storm scroll]

This community really doesn't read. It's being replaced by Cordon.

[tight talon]

Expanse will also drop it

[rotund raptor]

I havent read anything thats why im asking here but whatever makes u happy lol

[tight talon]

And loot pool between 4 weapon types are not shared

[storm scroll]

That would go hard. My request is hawkmoon

[storm scroll]

I answered the question. What would make me happy is for ppl to read though if you really care lol

[magic lichen]

🧾

[rotund raptor]

U really answered but the first sentence wasnt neccesary

[amber iris]

What will happen to my bon voyage charms I’ve been saving???

[empty kettle]

Nothing

[amber iris]

So u can still use them to pull?

Sweet

[late thistle]

No way piercing again for another 3 months

[frozen nimbus]

Ur denying the truth? 😂 ef will be handcannon / sniper

But only 45 days

[neat valley]

perfect for me lol

[late thistle]

Nope, as now every rotation is for 2 act

[glad valve]

But will she be a reliable character that’s the question

[late thistle]

Piercing again is crazy unless literally the rotation of calamity and expanse changes

[magic lichen]

calamity wont exist.

[late thistle]

We playin piercing since hh, and if efridet dont powercreep her, she will be uselss as she realeses

[exotic sinew]

Cordon boring replaces it

Which would be cordon fun if it had a different strike every 2 stages and gave us 1 crazy buff like a realm of the 9 buff with 2 standard buffs

[late thistle]

And i dont think she powercreep hh since she is an offense and not support so enjoy ahhaha

[exotic sinew]

Well T6 Efrideet is likely going to be on par if not better. HH would just buff Efrideet with her drones and Arbalest

[magic lichen]

why do ppl need power creeps? most ppl cant even build their character correctly.

[late thistle]

Im just tired of hh

[sharp talon]

they should do calamity and cordon at the same time why not

[exotic sinew]

Me too. More so I’m tired of Precision and want rapid fire

[late thistle]

Yeah but if she doesnt build ammo (like a support) cant be better of hh

[magic lichen]

didnt realize fireteams were 3 HH

its typically 1 HH per team... whats the problem lmao

[exotic sinew]

HH will always be the support of the group. It just comes to who the other two are, which in this case will be Ikora and Efrideet or Ning

[late thistle]

Literally 2 hh e 1 other was the meta

[exotic sinew]

At one point, in one cycle, yes

[magic lichen]

it happens 1 time and its gospel

[exotic sinew]

Usually you need a runner(Ning), HH, and then the other unit is the other shinks clearer + DPS

[late thistle]

A support does more damage on the game, even offense character cant compete

Plus speed health ammo

[sharp talon]

hh still needs to be the main dps on boss

hh also still needs to do the arbalest one shotting glitch

[exotic sinew]

We could do double HH and Jaren because Jaren was a good runner

Ikora T6 > HH T6 on damage unless there’s like 7 precision shinkas to pop instead of 7 spread

[late thistle]

Im ok with her but enough, we pkayin her since the start and they keep adding piercing staff

[sharp talon]

if they dont fix the arbalest glitch, efrideet will not beat hh for her whole 90 days

[exotic sinew]

It’s only T6 HH that has insane damage anyway. Also the damage transfer glitch?

[sharp talon]

yes, especially since we are continuing the precision shinka season

[exotic sinew]

I mean, it’s akin to Ikora being able to replenish her own warps by shooting her feet or doing infinite bar refills by standing on the enemy and spamming beams + rockets

[sharp talon]

its not really, since it can one shot things ur not supposed to

[exotic sinew]

Useful, but not game breaking. They just have to let Efrideet come out with her own glitch

[wraith scaffold]

so.. are we not going to get that unlimited pinnacle energy? damnit.. I fallen to his words.. 💀

which is ironic to Riven..

[balmy raft]

larp larp larp sahur

[wraith scaffold]

what the hell did you just said lol

[brisk mango]

So given the latest social media post, does this mean the changes aren’t happening?

[naive ingot]

I want impact

[indigo solar]

No

[cyan tide]

They are, there's patch notes separate from the whole Njorun thing.
That's just some world building explaining why we have to fight Njorun

[indigo solar]

Cury Mury Fuk

Yay

[thorny frost]

Reminder that Njorun wants to rewrite the time line supposedly. These “wishes” might be part of how he plans to do so (butterfly effect and all).

[cyan tide]

That's the wave frame lgl, right?

[indigo solar]

Yeah

But the name was blocked before

Not quite the pachinko situation but similar

[cyan tide]

Cury Mury Fuk is such a funny name

[candid phoenix]

Mute potion bow makes me think of a few people in casual chat lol

[thorny frost]

If this is a literal new upgrade to all units I could see them making Helhests weak to balance her down a bit XD.

[bitter estuary]

guys does the gilded seal for calops require an additional 50 clear or it carries off the ungilded title?

[stark forge]

last i done it its not

[vast arch]

I just finished reading the new notes and I am shook. Feels like we're getting a whole new game with the number of changes to core systems

[stark forge]

helhest rising 2

[cyan tide]

I think it's retroactive but I'm not sure

[sharp talon]

or it could just buff her lol

[remote grove]

Devs were cookin

[brisk mango]

Thank god

[thorny frost]

It will buff her to a degree if everything else is left the same. The question isn’t that but how much it buffs everyone else in comparison. Bringing her up 10% but everyone else up 25% is in essence a nerf on her meta status.

[brisk mango]

That’s a relief

[thorny frost]

Not saying it will be that disproportionate but saying it is an opportunity if they wanted to.

[vast sky]

Believe it or not

She'll still somehow mog everyone

[bitter estuary]

f it ill main attal

[thorny frost]

O I am not believing she is going anywhere yet, but it is one of the ways to nerf without nerfing. I could see them making hers not as strong as others is all.

[vast sky]

Im praying the bring back estella in strength

[remote grove]

More arc piercing characters 🤪

[thorny frost]

Wonder how all these updates will affect legendary units… they won’t get the upgrade path it looks like :/

[sharp talon]

i hope that exotic hc will synergize well with jaren

[mossy holly]

Just hope they dont screw up the next season.

[cyan tide]

Probably won't beat TLW, the higher RoF is just too good on him

[rotund raptor]

So far doesnt seem that way

[sharp talon]

in b4 they add precision shinkas to boss room without fixing arbalest bug next season

[remote grove]

They completely skipped solar rotation too.. Jaren getting no love

[dusty spire]

I’ve been saying this….you can see this is a balancing

[mossy holly]

I know but like, I have a feeling they would do these good things in the wrong direction, yknow?

[golden spade]

How? What did u read that suggests hh to be weaker?

[thorny frost]

It is a “possibility” each new mythic unit will get an upgrade option. Which give “a special effect”, if it isn’t just something cosmetic (it could be that too) then they could design each units differently or in a way that doesn’t enhance HH as much as others.

[mossy holly]

Oh wait the patch notes are out

[golden spade]

What they called the "character upgrade function" or could be the "seasonal emanare system"

The seasonal system reminds me of destiny 2's seasonal system where for eg they encouraged the use of sniper rifles. So when u upgrade the sniper node u for eg get ammo on kill perk or something

So it encourages the use of the new character vs hh

I see. It could be that

[round grove]

Njorun raid next season? 👀

[dry crystal]

Hello

[thorny frost]

Yea in the end they didn’t give enough info for us to know for sure in that regard. So theorizing is what we can do at the moment. Be interesting to see how exactly all these changes interact and rebalances/break XD things

[mossy holly]

OHH

But whats gonna happen to my exotic artifact chests?

[sullen depot]

Jk jk Idk

[round grove]

is this the void waveframe gl???

[mossy holly]

It seems they're keeping the boats

[round grove]

also wardcliff coil soon

[ionic nova]

Regarding upcoming changes to upgrading LBs and Drawing: I have no clue if I should save my LE boats, or convert my leaves into boats now or later. 🤔

[round grove]

this + new lgl could be t4 ikora meta

[cyan tide]

No, it's the other one

[vast arch]

Cury Mury Fuk

[cyan tide]

I doubt Wardcliff will give Ikora extra stacks, they patched that from cluster bombs for a reason

[indigo solar]

I bet it will, unintended tho

You'll need to tech it

[glad valve]

Controversial Grips with scatter grenades

[glacial kettle]

Weapon Enhancement;

They say when you infuse a Lvl 80 weapon up to Lvl 90 it will reset the Star Tier down to zero. Trying to decide whether to spend exotic enhancement cores and superimposed photons now or keep for a probably terrible conversion rate….?

They say our current weapon power number will convert to a lvl 80 weapon with with between 1 - 5 stars (the new system). Will we have to max lvl 80 weapons to 5 stars before infusing to lvl 90? Or can we infuse straight from Lvl 80 zero stars to Lvl 90…?

If we have to max the stars before infusing to lvl 90 then maybe it’s worth spending our materials now? If not then maybe it’s worth keeping them for a terrible transfer rate…..?

Not sure what to do… I spend all my pinnacle energy on Legendary Campaign for exotic cores and photons (have nearly 960 cores, with 7 photons). I’ve been saving them for new upcoming exotics rather than upgrading off-meta ones now, but I don’t want all that time to go to waste…

[signal spade]

I don't think exotics are getting tiers

I think exotics are still exotics

[sullen depot]

Yeah rn exotic infusion cores and photons are the safest and best thing to farm

If u wanna spend ur pinnacle that is

[mossy holly]

Whats the extra pinnacle then?

[modern pasture]

I have 9 challengar keys am i supposed to keep or spend them

[sullen depot]

spend or not spend is up to you

both options are valid

[modern pasture]

Sadly they did not specify what the rare item is could get screwed

[signal spade]

Rare just means farmable but old mods are kinda useless rn unless you need a specific one

[sullen depot]

i personally spent all mine cuz im more interested in the past glory thing

[signal spade]

I'm gonna let my challenger keys convert cause like nothing id get now would matter anyway presumably

Oh maybe if it counts towards the bundle thing I'll just go on completely dry and see what happens

[sullen depot]

yuh no more hoarding

[signal spade]

Seasonal tokens is probably a currency for some store that persists

[sharp talon]

should i use all my keys for seal or wait for conversion?

[signal spade]

The best currency to stack right now might be shifting gates

If you can get the seal I would since you'll never be able to get it again presumably

[sharp talon]

they say it will turn into adept stuff so ig conversion might be better

[cyan tide]

If you care about collection use them for the seal

[sullen depot]

where does it say adept stuff? it just says into seasonal token

[cyan tide]

It just says rare items for challenge keys

[winged compass]

What i do whit the boats now ?

[sullen depot]

thats the new end game. not about conversion

[sharp talon]

oh wait, i think i need to do it

[cyan tide]

Save them, you'll still be able to use them

[winged compass]

Tks sir

[sharp talon]

tasks requiring the completion of challenge mode

[cyan tide]

That means that stuff like the challenger and blitz seal will change the objectives from master activities to adept activities

[sharp talon]

ok, so i need to use keys then?

[sullen depot]

up to uuu!

[cyan tide]

If you want, we don't know what they're going to be turned into yet

[sullen depot]

once again Rawr...read this

[sharp talon]

is this still possible?

[rotund raptor]

Use hal keep half easy

[cyan tide]

Don't think so, maybe if you start today

[sharp talon]

ok i will try

[cyan tide]

Strikes and blitz have different modifiers iirc. Do both today and also tomorrow, and then on Monday as well

[sullen depot]

speaking of seals. anyone NA/Latam wanna do calamity with same element?

[cyan tide]

I just finished that one today lol, I'd be down to help if you find a third

[sullen depot]

ok wil try to get a third

[sharp pelican]

ayo ahamkara invading update notes is awesome

[mossy holly]

I thought they said they're moving away from draw based stuff, but keeping those boats-

Is it just gonna be, there?

[sharp pelican]

probably gonna get converted to char shards

i have like 50 boats so they better lol

[mossy holly]

I have 3.8k leaves..

[sharp pelican]

pretty sure they're not removing them

[sullen depot]

whats ur ign

[remote flame]

i'm bored, release season 4 today

[mossy holly]

Nahh but boats.

Bye bye

[sharp pelican]

are the boats getting removed?

[cyan tide]

Rene

[sharp pelican]

rip my 100 boats

convert to 2000 character shards pls

[hoary prawn]

Rip my 338 boats and 78k lumia leaves

[sullen depot]

added

[sharp pelican]

@sharp talon i think doing challenge mode is technically possible for u since reset is 3am thurs and maintenance is usually 12

so if you log in thurs and do the last modifier on void you could still get the seal

[stark forge]

78k glimmer is huge too

[rotund flame]

If they actually remove both it's going to be such a scummy move for the people who saved a ton

[red geyser]

This is my in-game ID
21054066902

[jagged osprey]

Why do people keep saying boats and leaves are leaving. THEY ARE NOT

[sullen depot]

they got baited and bamboozled

[candid phoenix]

Some YouTuber made a video with a clickbait title and it’s been passed around the reddit a lot

[jagged osprey]

Driving me crazy. People need to read the damn patch notes ffs

People have no reading comprehension these days and just regurgitate some random persons one take that could be wrong

But hey, go spend your boats and leaves. Who am I to stop you

[elder wing]

Lmao they can just put it as simple as DR would’ve mentioned something like: Okay LE are converted into this Plls are converted into this… but there’s none like that and still people get it wrong somehow 🤣

[candid phoenix]

It’s the same people who didn’t read that kabr charms would turn into normal charms even though it was right on the item description

[elder wing]

I guess it’s way too much for people to understand with all that patch note 😫 🤣

Some people are used to short answers like: NO LE are still ok to use for pulls… other then that they get confused

[candid phoenix]

The only mystery i have about charms/leaves is if the talent and mythic level systems are different

[elder wing]

Wdy mean mythic lvl?

[round grove]

Seems they're just adding a new way to acquire characters while leaving the option to pull for them available

[candid phoenix]

There’s gonna be a new system where mythic characters can “level up” up to level 5

[elder wing]

That like an extra power thing… nothing to do with talents

[candid phoenix]

But we have 6 talent levels so like that doesn’t map 1:1

[rotund raptor]

We expect to get more info tomorow right?

[jagged osprey]

Talents T1-6 still exist. It’s just a new system being added

[elder wing]

They’re giving you opportunities to pull for old banners of ur choice or get T0 of the new banner. If you want more talents. LE. Silver etc

[elder wing]

Just a full release of the map and maybe trailer

[jagged osprey]

Bro, if they do give a choice of new or old unit, my choice is going to Smellhest

[elder wing]

Tbh I wasn’t expecting patch notes till Wednesday. But they wanted to give us a heads start I guess

[jagged osprey]

Gotta get them broken tier upgrades

[elder wing]

Yupp. You can only choose choice chest characters end of season

[vast arch]

If you need 1 I can help you guys out

[sullen depot]

oh eh. whats your ign? just need solar/void now

[vast arch]

THATDONFC

[signal spade]

I have an idea

[elder wing]

Enlighten us

[jagged osprey]

Waiting till the end of season when next season almost 3 months

[glad valve]

Next Season is 18th June

[elder wing]

Yup whoever wants hel. Gotta wait till then for 1T

[glad valve]

Crazy init

[elder wing]

Well lol don’t know what else people thought 🤣

[glad valve]

A question from me to you.

Do you think some seasons just drag on to long?

[stark forge]

waiting to get t1 helhest lesgo

[elder wing]

I mean usually it doesn’t. It felt that way cuz of Hikora and Kabr… even before that Jaren Season ended couple days earlier

[half sky]

Those people over work them employees so anything can happen 🙏

[glad valve]

I missed a few of them season tbh. Destiny 2 seasons just dragged on

[jagged osprey]

Destiny 2 gross

[half sky]

T1 hh is no reference from t0

[elder wing]

Yeah fair. But I feel like we going to enjoy S4 and won’t feel like dragging

[glad valve]

Well tbh you just brought up a good point there. No pinnacle energy so we all should be good

No complaints right???

[twilit thistle]

All that text, and not one section of it explains why I would want to grind these things out. If everything just gets taken away the season after, I just dont see the point. Enlighten me

[elder wing]

Personally. I will enjoy the game no matter what! All this changes are positive in my book. But at the same time all this could be not what people expected

[glad valve]

The only thing that shocked me when they announced No Pinnacle Energy. I was like Woah. Farming time

[elder wing]

Yupp. Feels like fun time ngl

[glad valve]

I’m building them resources up all day and night

[elder wing]

Yup. They’ll probably work around the the drop rates and all but shouldn’t make a big difference as they stated farm and as much as you desire

The way I see it is like instead of just saving PR for 1 content you can grind multiple or even all without anything holding you back

[glad valve]

I’ve been thinking. Do you think NetEase is testing this No Pinnacle Energy to see if it does well

[bitter estuary]

my issue is that people dont know if gacha is being removed or not

[jagged osprey]

Gacha is not being removed. Says it on Efrideet thingy

[elder wing]

Nah lol whole Release of the game was a big test! S4 is like a whole relaunch of the whole game. So they already did test everything they wanted

[sharp talon]

i doubt the removal of pinnacle energy is just a test. the game has to be designed around it

[glad valve]

Got you makes sense. I’m glad I can farm as much as I desire

[elder wing]

Not a test! Designed final choice of theirs! No PE is what welll have from now on

[glad valve]

I think the gacha will be cosmetics like Bungie did with Eververse

[elder wing]

Definitely broski. It’s all up to a player what perspective you looking at the changes.

[bitter estuary]

wait this is a good suggestion

[sharp talon]

28k wtf?

[south agate]

Yes. Just keep the activities available without the new material rewards for the players who still have to knock out some triumphs, instead of hard deleting them after giving us a ONE WEEK NOTICE

[elder wing]

All I see is calamity nerd crying over a removal 🤣

[south agate]

Both of those seals require multiple week triumphs

[cyan tide]

Eh, you had 3 seasons to complete the seals. It's not like they're particularly hard or anything

[bitter estuary]

they play w/ literally any1 thats online lmao

[south agate]

Idgaf about Calamity. What I do gaf about is the fact that these seals are completionist material

[glad valve]

I aren’t bothered about the other changes I just want farm and get my characters up bro

[jagged osprey]

I agree with Rene. The seals have been around for over half a year

[bitter estuary]

wasnt calops and challenge mode supposd to be permanent

[elder wing]

Yeah but yall had 7 years for those seals lmao

[south agate]

I didn't. Game wouldn't launch for me for quite some time during S2, that's the whole reason my helhest is T1

[glad valve]

Dam 7 years

[south agate]

This too. They're going back on their word.

[elder wing]

Well that you problem not the game right?

[bitter estuary]

we've talked about this in our pack, this is essentially rigging the new players on purpose

[south agate]

Why actually delete the modes? Just don't make them reward new system mats, it at least keeps the triumphs and completionist capabilities alive

[glad valve]

Didn’t Bungie go back on there word aswel. Removing Red War and Curse of Osiris

[elder wing]

95% of the players are sick of OPS and is not like they’re not replacing with literally almost the same mode. But aint just about speed this time

[bitter estuary]

well atleast make the mode available 2 weeks after release of s4 so ppl can have more time finishing them

[elder wing]

Literally every seal in the game is been out for a while! They even gave us the patch notes This Friday instead of Wednesday as it should be

[south agate]

Even so. Removing content just isn't necessary. Bepis is right, it just screws over the players who started this season

[glad valve]

Sunsetting needs to be abolished

[south agate]

3 weeks* , there's a 4week triumph in chall mode

[bitter estuary]

so much people are literally inviting me to their fireteams to do triumphs for crying out loud

[twilit thistle]

They didn’t just delete the modes, what I read was a deletion of any freedom we had. The entire update seemed aimed at preventing us from getting ahead, and forcing us to play more.

[elder wing]

Yeah fair but it was out for almost from the start…

[bitter estuary]

maybe the whole act would be nice, but too much of an ask so thats fair

[visual rain]

hi chat what are we arguing about

[south agate]

The seals being out for a while isn't an argument. They haven't been out for a while to the new players who started. And all I'm seeing from you is that argument

[bitter estuary]

triumph removal

[cyan tide]

If they cared about completing the seals they would've done it a while ago. If they started too late to complete them than that sucks but you can't keep the gamemode just for that minority of players. What about the people that start playing a week after S4 starts? Should they keep the gamemodes even longer for those players?

[visual rain]

in season 4?

[glad valve]

Clamaity seal

[bitter estuary]

yeah for calops and challenge mode

[south agate]

NetEase fully deleting calops and chall mode instead of making them worse rewarding activities so the seals are still obtainable. One week notice while both seals require multiple weeks is ridiculous and disheartening

[visual rain]

oh good i hate calamity

[signal spade]

Isn't the only thing that takes more than one week the expert 1 thing lol

[south agate]

4 week triumph in chall mode too

[bitter estuary]

i mean if they are making a change they should be able to notify the players weeks prior or even a month because it's a major content rehaul

[south agate]

This too ^^

[twilit thistle]

Did u read the patch notes?

[storm scroll]

I'm glad I just got here

[visual rain]

no lol

[south agate]

We got way too short of a notice to even prepare for such things

[visual rain]

ive just heard the pinnacle removal and stuff like that

[twilit thistle]

Umeko is cooked

[visual rain]

WHAT WHAT DID THEY DO

[glad valve]

Nerf

[elder wing]

She is bald now

[visual rain]

why nerf she not even meta

[bitter estuary]

a lot of games notify players 3~4 weeks prior to a major update

i think even a lot of other mobile live service do it too, its not that hard

[glad valve]

Is this the only game that doesn’t

[bitter estuary]

not the only one, but one of the games for sure

[south agate]

For a gacha mobile game? Yes. Genshin notified players 2 months in advance about Fontaine i.e.

[twilit thistle]

Yea that char is have 36k proficiency on is now… cooked. I can get past the leaderboard, as it kinda died in December, but, the rest didn’t sit well with me.

[sharp talon]

at least last time, cordon can be more p2w than calamity ops

[glad valve]

That’s bad for sure. I feel you you’re pain

[south agate]

It's bad practice to remove content in the first place. Challenge Mode was imo quite enjoyable.

[bitter estuary]

hi3rd part 2 COMPLETE rehaul was notified MONTHS before it released

[elder wing]

Definitely

[bitter estuary]

and that's a smaller game than genhsin, from hoyo too

[glad valve]

Do they notify you a week before end of the season or something

[visual rain]

can u send screenshot of patch notes for umeko

[south agate]

It's also bad practice to give people a one week notice that they're removing activities whose seals require multiple weeks.

[sharp talon]

i didnt see anything about umeko

[elder wing]

False info

[south agate]

Dev Notice that mentions CalOps and Chall Mode being removed was posted yesterday...

[glad valve]

One week notice that is shocking. They need change that

[signal spade]

They should go back in time right now

[twilit thistle]

It’s not Umeko, it’s all non mythic char.

[visual rain]

??? why

[sharp talon]

oh its the new upgrading system

[south agate]

Just keep the activities as bad rewarding for the entirety of S4 Act1, it won't hurt anybody, just gives people more time for the triumphs

[elder wing]

Yh they should give those didn’t play the game another 3 months to complete seals

[glad valve]

Do you thing they are rushed of there feet because of Rivals

[sharp talon]

i now await for jaren buff

[bitter estuary]

considering the game is essentially rehauling itself

closest i can think off is honkai impact 3rd part 2, they teased it in september 22nd and released it 5 MONTHS later at february 29th

[south agate]

No I think they delayed their roadmap as late as they could. It's just bleep up

[glad valve]

Imagine they nerf him

[elder wing]

Hes getting more cannons lmao

[cyan tide]

T5 is now 2 extra seconds

[stark forge]

as close as this i dont think theres any chance for them to keep the mode for 1 more season

[glad valve]

NetEase not thinking straight huh

They are on that Jack Daniel’s

[visual rain]

how does that make 4 stars worse
"Gilded character signature preview, displayed in the team interface, MVP settlement interface, and other locations"

is that not just cosmetics?

[stark forge]

we need double ammo pool for shotgun hell triple it instead

[elder wing]

We need jaren to have lvl 4 dmg drones

[glad valve]

Oh my I forgot about Honkai Star Rail

How does NetEase keep up with all there games

[signal spade]

I'm confused by the post anyway condensate is just the new dupe

[stark forge]

each game is a different studio i think

[glad valve]

That makes sense

[elder wing]

Yh just gotta log in on 26 and see ourselves

[bitter estuary]

hsr is a different issue, honkai impact 3rd is a different game

hsr's issue is powercreep

[glad valve]

I hate power creep games

[bitter estuary]

imagine making a character every few banners and it's all meta/most damage/best support

[visual rain]

mf you are playing a destiny game 😭

[glad valve]

Thats why I said it

[bitter estuary]

hoyo is the worse offender though

[glad valve]

You got to cope with Umeko nerf

[stark forge]

addicts always come back to what they love

[visual rain]

i still dont get how its a nerf

someone elaborate cus this makes no sense

[sullen depot]

lol why are pple talking abou char nerf?

[glad valve]

I love Destiny

[elder wing]

We are bored. We want Season 7 to come asap 🤣

[sharp talon]

if mythics get buffs, and legendaries stay the same its kinda like a nerf in relative power

[visual rain]

but what are they buffs even

[sharp talon]

we dont know we are guessing lmfao

[visual rain]

bruh

[glad valve]

I will go beyond and say I want Season 20

[south agate]

Also if challenge mode is being deleted, don't the Gauntlet Blitz triumphs become impossible too???

[stark forge]

buff blue weapons pls

[elder wing]

No buffs nothing new tbh… nothing exiting

[visual rain]

so yall dont know s**t either so why are we calling umeko cooked 💔

[sharp talon]

just to ragebait

[glad valve]

Because she is cooked

[elder wing]

Ask the person who cooked u bruh

[visual rain]

youre cooked

[signal spade]

Didn't they already confirm the challenge mode achievements are just gonna be adept achievements

[glad valve]

Yes

[south agate]

I mean chall seal is becoming sunset

[signal spade]

And honestly if you didn't get expert 1 twice in a row by now for calamity ops you didn't want it

[elder wing]

You forgot people can’t read

[sharp talon]

im hard stuck rookie in calamity ops, i blame my teammates

[stark forge]

the seal is going away i think

[elder wing]

They always find excuses lmao

[glad valve]

They could just keep the mode in the game really

[sharp talon]

almost zero effort to do the same strike as cordon in calamity, but i think it will cause lumia inflation

[elder wing]

Small rewards and nothing to grind on it just for some to get their seals? Nah that aint it

[south agate]

I personally got the expert triumph. I was more annoyed at the chal seal because who tf in their right mind with a normal life will get 4 weeks in a row of clears

[signal spade]

They hate the community around cal ops for sure

[south agate]

I dont got that much time while at college...

[simple dune]

Hello, i'm new and am looking for beginner advice

[elder wing]

Well…

[glad valve]

Thinking about it that is true

[signal spade]

Isn't the achievement just spend 1 key a week for a month in gms

[elder wing]

Yeah cuz people won’t play it! No rewards and nothing on to grind is like going to public even just to kill time. That not have they see it so it won’t happen

[signal spade]

How is that a time sink you can do that from bed

[elder wing]

He blames the game for having to go college and not play

[stark forge]

i remember its 12 keys in a week

[sharp talon]

5 min of playtime is too much for me

[stark forge]

like save 3 weeks worth of keys

[glad valve]

That’s a good explanation thanks for that. So yeah delete it

[south agate]

Dude NetEase legit threw Contest Crota in the middle of exam season. They have no sense of time

MID JANUARY IS NOT THE TIME TO DO THAT. EVEN BUNGIE KNOWS THAT

[elder wing]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-turning-head-confused-cat-rizalalthur-orange-cat-behavior-gif-10491959385063137392

[stark forge]

u could just take exam in another day

[signal spade]

One key a week is literally a five minute strike

[glad valve]

Bruh

[signal spade]

That's matchmade

[south agate]

I'm not even going to entertain this

[pallid light]

hi all, one question pls, since they will eliminate the energy system on the new season, what will happen to the enery i acummulated? will i just lose it? ty

[elder wing]

Bruh they can’t just be like hey Nighmare is in school let’s ask him when to release it…

[glad valve]

Hahahaha

[sharp talon]

they should do that

[signal spade]

Blue energy is converted to random new materials yellow disappears iirc

[stark forge]

yellow go into seasonal tokens

[glad valve]

The blue energy might be converted to something to give you back

[south agate]

Dude most people who came from D2 are either whales with too much time on their hands, or college students. I absolutely was not the only one who was against this. Just go back to the twitter post about crota's release date

[naive ingot]

[elder wing]

The past is in the past. We like future

[glad valve]

Gwynn you are in time to listen to Nightmare complain about a seal

[signal spade]

You can hate the release date of a raid but I'm confused by the take that it was too much to ask to do one strike a week

[south agate]

We DONT like future, not even you like the new system

[signal spade]

Like did you gild the seasonal seal that's also going away

[naive ingot]

I won't be listening 😂

[south agate]

It's designed to make us spend more time

[elder wing]

Nah you cooked broski ngl

[glad valve]

lol 😂 it’s been funny

[stark forge]

the seal is doing 12 strike a week

[south agate]

No because 60 days of high value bounties is quite painful to do as a college grad student unfortunately

[sullen depot]

thats crazy

[south agate]

I was surprised I even got to 180

[stark forge]

u just have to login for 20 days

[elder wing]

Just crazy you blaming a game for not having personal free time to play… like what 🤣

[glad valve]

New seals next season

[signal spade]

This is like the classic destiny subreddit single dad with six jobs and ten kids post

[sullen depot]

literally i log unto my phone, do bounties and log off. apparently thats hard now

[south agate]

I can't play it on my phone in my country

[elder wing]

Nah they should stop the game during school hrs apparently

[naive ingot]

Usual "scrub out" one of these here. Discord/Bungie/Netease/Destiny...

I'm too tired to pay attention today

[glad valve]

You been working hard go take some rest

[twilit thistle]

And money.

[sullen depot]

aight pack it up. no more daily bounty missions netease. Nightmare cant do em

[elder wing]

Shocking

[signal spade]

Ive been trying to spend money in this game idk how to at this point

[south agate]

I mean it's NetEase, whatcha expect? That's the least surprising thing

[signal spade]

People acting like this game is greedy are actually insane

[glad valve]

NetEase give Nightmare all the bounties he will happily complete them

[sullen depot]

for real. like they are losing money with their lack of greed

[south agate]

I'm not complaining about that lol. I'm just under the impression that fully removing content is bad practice... Bungie proved that 6 years ago

[sullen depot]

everyone is asking for bundles to spend money on lol

[elder wing]

Nah some of yall gotta go touch grass lmao… at this point yall saying things just to say things 🤣

[glad valve]

Hell yeah give me a Tan 2 skin that looks sick

[stark forge]

but its the same content elsewhere running hundreds of strike maps

[south agate]

Titles are completionist content. Removing it while they were never originally seasonally bound is ridiculous

[signal spade]

Yea calling this sunsetting is a crazy take, they also sunset the original shifting gates

They also sunset my estela banner

[south agate]

The core of the gamemode remained the same, L take.

[stark forge]

not sure how u dealt with fomo when bungie sunset stuff in d2

[glad valve]

I handed it with anger

[signal spade]

If you take the timer off calamity ops it's less of a change than what they did to shifting gates

[bitter estuary]

he literally mentioned it in the suggestion? he is a d2 player lol

[stark forge]

oh well...

[south agate]

I've never been mad at Bungie removing seasonal stuff, but if you're calling me insane for being angry at Bungie for sunsetting 4 Expansions' worth of content, then you're the insane one

[vast arch]

Is it really the same as D2 sunsetting in a F2P game?

[signal spade]

They also sunset the snow in the pack den 😠

[twilit thistle]

They didn’t sunset it, they removed the competitive part and left the leaderboard. Doing so with a days notice, and mid season.

[south agate]

Seasonal content is designed as FOMO content. CalOps and Chall Mode were never supposed to be that. So a 1 week notice in my honest opinion is just the worst thing you could do

[glad valve]

Content we paid for to be taken away. That is straight daylight robbery

[pallid light]

@glad valvety so much

[elder wing]

The real question is whos pulling for Efrideet 🔥

[south agate]

Then EpicGames must be master thieves for stealing money every season...

[south marsh]

whats the most used Jolder Build high end conent stuff anyone know?

[stark forge]

all the new light in the system

[glad valve]

I hate there practises how they handle that it’s horrible

[elder wing]

Search up on YouTube. Many out there

[south marsh]

gotcha

[stark forge]

epic is like free game claiming hub for me cant imagine ppl buying games there

[bitter estuary]

the vbucks and cosmetic price changes are insane, they made stw free and brought back fortnite globally on mobile just for a price bump for everything lmao

[glad valve]

You’re welcome buddy

[south agate]

The one thing I will defend these businesses on, IS the seasonal cycle. It's their way of making money, and the consumer willingly buys it. You were always able to buy exclusively the expansion. Seasonal content is a business design. Now the VBucks changes is an ENTIRELY different topic that makes my blood boil

[glad valve]

Alls Epic bait in is kids for Fornite to steal there parents credit cards to waste on money in the fornite shop

[south agate]

Hot Take: if your kid is able to get ahold of- and use your credit card, you're at fault lol.

[glad valve]

That is also true and also partly epic aswel

[stark forge]

if ur kids touch roblox and fortynine well thats a serious crime

[glad valve]

Roblox needs to be shut down

[granite tundra]

yep

[south agate]

Honestly, you cannot put parents at fault for letting their kids play Roblox. HOWEVER, if they continued to let their kids play Roblox after the Schlep-saga, THEN they're absolutely at fault

[glad valve]

Vbucks is ridiculous

[twilit thistle]

#off-topic

[stark forge]

someones kids still dreaming of millions robux/vbucks rn

[glad valve]

Of course they are it’s planted in the brain

[south agate]

As I was saying. It wouldn't hurt anyone and only be positive to keep Chall Mode and CalOps active for another act as a Legacy activity so at least the seals are still available

[whole yew]

When’s the goth girl getting her rerun?

[glad valve]

NetEase wants to do the sunsetting

[whole yew]

Her name alludes me rn

[south agate]

You'll be able to get her from end of season character shards

[south agate]

Gwynn

[whole yew]

Damn

[whole yew]

Thank you~!

[sullen depot]

so long as you actually do the seasonal activities though. you dont get the shards for free

[south agate]

Yeah they're seasonal challenges

[whole yew]

Oh

Any tedious ones?

[sullen depot]

we dunno. we find out when season starts

[stark forge]

we dont know the details yet

[whole yew]

Ohh yeah I haven’t touched this game in likeee 5 months

[sullen depot]

lol yeah ihave a feeling a bunch of pple are gonna be like "where my shard" but then havent done any seasonal activity

[scarlet knot]

Are clusters and fruits going away in s4? Should i use them now?

[whole yew]

My phone can’t run it all that well😔

I would like to get the Razer phone controller to make the controls a bit easier to use

[sharp talon]

they are gonna turn into something else

[bitter estuary]

tbf the game is quite demanding, and i think the new raid runs worse than onslaught s1

[sharp talon]

at least it runs well on pc 🤣

[whole yew]

I’m trying out here man

[scarlet knot]

Yea but do we know if it will be more expensive to level a characters skills to 18 and 5 after s4 launches with the new material?

[stark forge]

the game looks like ps2 graphics at lowest sometimes

[whole yew]

I was running on medium I think?

Oh what’s the GIF situation in this server?

[sharp talon]

we dont know XD

[stark forge]

i dont think expensive is a problem, wonder if any upgrades are gated by activities

[summer kite]

Artifactual clusters are mentioned in the patch notes as being converted into seasonal tokens, not incandescence or the other cluster Im forgetting the name of

[bitter estuary]

you still need to talk more to get perms, also 67 gif is banned here

[sharp talon]

6 7

[sullen depot]

yeah inc and mobius no one knows about. since its not in notes chances are it remains but will just have to see

[stark forge]

mobius need a faster farm or it must go like the rest

[sullen depot]

well if they are changing how mods work maybe mobius isnt as necessary as before. agreed tho

[signal spade]

the existence of season 4 clusters is weird

[vast arch]

I wanna know why those exist

[sullen depot]

my guess is lvl 90 shenanigans

[signal spade]

its either level 90 shenanigans or youll need seasonal currency to upgrade characters for that season

[stark forge]

so cluster to boost to lv95 power buff ?

[whole yew]

[signal spade]

pretty much to make hoarding not possible between seasons

[vast arch]

wonder if I'm gonna be mad that I didn't buy any S4 clusters

[signal spade]

prob not assuming everything is farmable plus you have all week

photons still bis

[stark forge]

if its limited amount per cycle then mobi must go 😭

[vast arch]

"Mobius Loop"

[sullen depot]

yeah why they calling it mobius loop ?

[twilit thistle]

I can’t keep up with all these weird names ngl

[vast sky]

Kinda disappointed the new raid has no new exotics just old ones

[sharp talon]

ai translation error?

[vast sky]

Probably just literal translation errors

[vast arch]

Why is it the only thing in quotation marks?

[vast sky]

Its pretty common since the game was first tested translations always been kinda meh

[twilit thistle]

ö not found

[stark forge]

im excited for the gugugaga onslaught stage now

[bitter estuary]

its pretty common for netease to have a lot of wack translations

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/gugugaga-penguin-gif-17293111884390271684

[vast arch]

can't wait to try the rice pilaf gun

[whole yew]

A mobius strip is how Jolyne survived C-Moon’s attacks

[sullen depot]

nah meta is the Cury Mury Fuk

[sharp talon]

anyone else having the issue where the notice takes a while to load?

[stark forge]

they put an ai model in that notice

[sullen depot]

wonder what they put into gpt to get these weapon names. like "CLY3 North African Egg" ??

[sharp talon]

is that real?

[sullen depot]

LOL yessss

[stark forge]

ist3 zicocaca

[vast sky]

Praying for thunderlord to be good

[sharp talon]

wtf

[vast arch]

ain't no way hold up

[sharp talon]

does anyone have the chinese text?

[vast arch]

DEL1 Baklava
HON4 Pilaf
IST3 Zico'oclac
CLY3 North African Egg
DEL9 Ovation

Night After Night
Mesicku
Jezibaba
Cury Mury Fuk
Mute Potion
Suffocate Below

Roguish Creature
Vodnik Above the Water
Die in Vain

[signal spade]

thats a translation issue for SURE

[vast sky]

Nah north african egg trust

[indigo solar]

The Riviks and Wright weapons are all named after food iirc

[stark forge]

hand cannon jezibaba too

[signal spade]

Shakshuka

[stark forge]

neteasegpt is wild with these names

[vast sky]

Hopefully this time it will good

[signal spade]

apparently Shakshuka is an egg dish from north africa i believe in the gpt

[sharp talon]

What

[twilit thistle]

😭

[indigo solar]

It was almost meta, don't you remember

[vast sky]

I remember, but almost meta just means "it was fodder for izzies 💀 "

[indigo solar]

Okay but everything was fodder for izzies

[stark forge]

borealis will be the true meta

[vast sky]

Borealis being the most "potential man" exotic in destiny history

Always "might be" and never "is"

[vast arch]

Tan-2 Gwynn and Estela, the good old days

[indigo solar]

Who's Gwynn

Never heard of her

[teal mantle]

[vast sky]

The good old days of "i got 18 jade rabbits but never for an izzies"

[signal spade]

could be good for cordon death to calamity ops

[sharp talon]

i hope they made it a little bit better than what we had before

last time cordon felt a little undercooked

[signal spade]

its in the new zone isnt it or did i maek that up

i thought cordon was in the calus area but that mightve been a fever dream

[sharp talon]

huh?

[signal spade]

i thought they called that new calus area the exclusion zone or something which i thought was the wording they used in the original cordon announcement

like when you look at the artwork in game the week they had cordon up it was like finala going into some new red area

then we just wound up doing the pit which made no sense, my tinfoil was they were just testing the mode without the actual map

[sharp talon]

they called it extremis zone iirc

[signal spade]

yea i might be high then

good thing about cordon is they can pick what weapons are good not just what shinka types

[sharp talon]

they better use the new strikes in cordon

if its the 4 strikes we had before boring

[signal spade]

prob safe to assume they made new strikes to use them beyond the strikes playlist

[livid sable]

Same 4 strikes but faster, but faster!

[stark forge]

lets add noclip to all maps

[sharp talon]

disable collision on everything

fall into the void forever

[stark forge]

oob hunter gonna have a busy season

[twilit thistle]

So apparently these are going to be deleted next season?

[sharp talon]

turn into seasonal tokens

[twilit thistle]

And whats a "Mobius Loop"

[vast sky]

We can use any weapon?

[remote grove]

Atp everything should just be deleted xD

[sharp talon]

on expanse ye it seems

[vast sky]

New mod quality?

[remote grove]

Yeah theres an adept mod that seems like is only a drop from hardmode raids

[vast sky]

Love

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[signal spade]

i dont think its any weapon persay i think its like you can pick any shinka type for your run

which translates to any weapon i guess

[sharp talon]

oh huh did they make this new blocked tab recently?

wasnt it under friends before

[sullen depot]

yeah i think today. wasnt there yesterday iirc

[sharp talon]

it seems ning fei might suck in the future besides rapid fire expanse now that calamity doesnt exist

[bitter estuary]

ill do a lot of grinding after s4 starts it seems

[twilit thistle]

I mean how many of these upgrade materials they gonna take tho. I better be rich by the end of this.

[sharp talon]

the amount of essence u hvae is truly nuts

[stark forge]

s4 is when we have to rebuild everyone

all dem weapons artifacts

[indigo solar]

Only 1k isn't that much

[sharp talon]

u have more???

[indigo solar]

Think I have 3k, logging in rn

[sharp talon]

also it says team lvl exp is stored, so will most people immediately go to level 90 when season 4 starts?

[remote grove]

Hoarding for the apocalypse

[indigo solar]

Just shy of 3k

[sharp talon]

how?

[indigo solar]

I don't grind calops so I don't need to spend a bunch of essence

[remote grove]

Dats alot of chaos runs

[sharp talon]

expanse 40 seems it will be much easier considering the enemies are 95, and we will be at 90 now

[twilit thistle]

Certainly no point in hoarding it now lol

[remote grove]

Thats why they reworked it entirely lol

[sharp talon]

i wonder if we will go to 80k power

or probably 77k

[remote grove]

Its hard say if its worth dumping all of it now or if it will be useful for all the artifact changes they are making

[indigo solar]

40 isn't the end of expanse anymore

[sharp talon]

ye for speed running i mean

[indigo solar]

Likely won't have a time leaderboard anymore

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar i had a hard time understanding the artifact changes

[sharp talon]

awww

[vast arch]

Same. My head was spinning

[weak ginkgo]

Expanse could be stage based leaderboard instead of time. Something different and sounds fun

[sharp talon]

why not have both time and stage

[twilit thistle]

😭

[weak ginkgo]

We might. But as it's above 40 I'm not sure if is going to be time based

[visual rain]

what the hell is even that

[twilit thistle]

Idk but if you know what class I need to take to understand it, i would be very grateful.

[visual rain]

quanatum mechanics

[weak ginkgo]

Too much to read but all that will make sense ones we enter S4. All those materials we have will be converted into something similar you can use during the season

[hidden carbon]

You can use two artifacts with three matching substats to reroll for the desired substat

So if you have weapon/sig/ability on both but the two have vul or an element boost then you won’t get either as the 4th if you attribute transfer

[sharp talon]

wow

[hidden carbon]

Basically they’re encouraging the grind

[vast arch]

Honestly I can’t wait to see what the new season is about. I wish it launched yesterday cuz I don’t want to wait

[sharp talon]

instead of s3 starting a few days earlier, it shouldve been s4 xd

[hidden carbon]

Soon

[sharp talon]

at least it seems some hype is being built

[hidden carbon]

They really revamped the entire system lol

From gacha to typical destiny grindfest

Destiny players finally eating good again

The point transfer sounds like the typical light level grind where items will drop 1-5 light levels higher and you use it to get your artifacts higher

[spring cipher]

If i use the transfer code from my pc emulator to my phone, will I not be able to play it on the same account on my emulator?

[sharp talon]

wait if level 85 artifacts are going back to level 80 but staying the same attribute score, is it just better in every instance to upgrade to 85 right now?

[sterile pelican]

that's what i'm doin lol

[vast sky]

It may be

[hidden carbon]

Basically

[vast sky]

Gonna have legacy artifacts that are better than everything else trust

Still waiting for netease to just reintroduce the old artifact system from the alpha

[hidden carbon]

Maximize your attribute scores for whatever good artifacts you got

[vast sky]

Which was 20,000x better

[vast arch]

Just connect your account to google or discord and you’ll be able to log in to both without the need to transfer