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Yeah thats about right
Just revamp whole thing and rescale respectfully
More RNG! Yay! 
And idk what mods would do now that they donāt have perk upgrades. Just gives stats I guess?
Hope so, it's just helhest abilities are so good because she's labeled as a support. Healing/damage and ammo creation are so good. Edrideet abilities need to absolutely nuke enemies in order for it to keep up with her lol
What is happening
Hype lol
Everything.
Idk man this doesnāt sound better than the existing system at all
I need info
Yupp⦠so I donāt think Efrideet is going to be any weak lol even kabr was viable with him being none offensive char. So imagine efrideet with offensive + the three
The gacha stays lol, they're balancing everything at least. You can still get more copies of the characters BUT you're guaranteed a free copy from grinding shards. Most probably the newest character will not be mixed on the character shards for old characters, albeit has its own grinding event.
Or she does more DMG and can get heavy ammo too. Snipers are heavy hitters
Ning is offensive⦠and heās mid at best
Definitely will scale better as dps if itās going the way we think it is.
And what do they mean by reworking the gun development to be part of relic in the previous post? That doesnāt link with relics at all
Not like neteas aināt seen everyone complaining about HH in here
Translation errors, like a lot. šThe original one was in Chinese
Easy mode broken hero
With the Three is gonna change. Offensive char will have more dps and boost while Support etc they will boost their support part
At least they're not nerfing T6 Hairkora laser spam yet š¤
Oh boy
She do that because sheās offensive
I see what kind of person you are lol
Burst of damage is completely acceptable for that class type
Yup, sounds and looks like more rng and grinding to me šæ
Offensive with a crap ton of survivability with just keeping her overshields all the time.
And the new artefact system just sounds horrible
Can I get a small summary?
But if your offensive and your support is doing your job
Ngl Efrideet might surprise us all
So tomorrow should be the full reveal of season 4 right? That means a Trailer or a full breakdown Video which shows the new systems in Action
So now base stats canāt be changed so ⦠more artefact RNG! Yay, just what everyone wanted!
Patch notes bud patch notes are out
More RNG and grinding, just the way I like Destiny š£ļøš„
Ok
Pretty much yh
Oh and you canāt equip multiple characters with the same e artefact
Guess that's why they removed pinnacle energy lol
Read it.
there is a high chance todays was the full reveal if we are going on CN time. but yes a video should def be expected
Ngl, whatever for me
But you can just unequip itā¦so itās just annoying?
Idk why would anyone want a summary without doing the effort of reading
Like what is even the point of this rework
Did you read the same thing that we did?
@rotund flame I expected this outcome, and I love playing the game anyways
@toxic edge
Thx
But they never did CN Time and use another Date in the roadmap for the month. So im hopefully for tomorrow
This generation is cooked if a long form statement is enough to keep them from reading š„
they did for the first mystery visitor tweet. we got the tweet March 9 NA when event calender says March 10
Read that again bruh
Lmfao
Most characters use a artifact for just them and you can play indefinitely now so who cares
That means your artifacts are universal now
So, you canāt equip multiple characters with the same artifact?
No element stopping it, you can't equip your god artifacts on any character at the same time
The word SIMULTANEOUSLY
The Changes are really big and great from what im reading. Sounds like they are heading towards right direction, more like Warframe Style
Way to read. Uncommon skill
Just like d1
Your artifacts builds on Helhest and Kabr, Hairkora, Maru and defensive artifacts on Jolder will be removed and can't be used simultaneously anymore, only stuck to one character
Of course they are! Just imagine you can equip god roll artefact of void char to arc etc. sick
Letās go grinding! Iām actually hyped to grind new stuff
Yes, so you canāt say put the same artefact on jolder and Maru
That doesn't mean you can't transfer those artifacts to the character you're running
MAN CANT READ
Idk what does that mean
Lmao
What's the issue? You can transfer them anyways from Jolder to Maru or vice versa depending on the raid you're running lmao
Bro why are we like this⦠eat some fish for that brain lol
you can switch artifacts but you cant put them on SIMULTANEOUSLY
Looool
do you play 2 characters at the same time? NO
Dawg has reading comprehension
Oh nice I can work with this
I ask myself how they want to get Money. Cause Energie isnt needed anymore, so no one is gonna buy that (i think Most people ingame buy this one for sure). Same as black market, it was good cause you could buy Ressources without spending Energy, now its Just a time saver of minutes not days or months.
Yes, like I said, it just adds extra annoyance for no reason
Like honestly. No wonder gaslighting is soo f ez around here
Constantly swapping artifacts is cringe, farm a unique set for each character
Artifacts are universal lmfao, you can transfer them in between characters when you're running one before entering a raid.
How?? Lol how?
Like you can equip and unequip anyways so you can just swap them around
i mean you can also farm a new set as well lol
Ok tbf I am biased against Ning since Ningmeta in sg, but god he also just does not feel good to play
Facts
HAND CANNON SNIPER EEEEEEEEE
So why add that restriction at all
That's the old system we have that sucks
Eid Mubarak āŖļøš
Cloudstrike incomming
Unless you want to be behind someone in terms of dps and survivability by using 2 characters
CLOUDSTRIIIIIKE
You do you bro! We listen and we donāt judge!
No, with the current system I can farm one set and use it on Ikora and Maru without switching
You're saving a lot more of resources swapping artifacts instead of building separate sets
So you need to farm for a lot of god artifacts. More time ingame

He wonāt get that part either! Watch
Ngl the raid extoics are all peak
yeurrrrrr
Yeah that sounds like a extra problem. Wonder if they have a way to save artifact builds on each character. Going to hate taking everything off and on every day lol
The next system is where all types of artifacts are not stopping you from equipping to any character you want.
Also Iām seeing a theme here guys⦠Symmetry, BP Hand Cannon, Cloudstrike, Thunderlord, Wardcliff Coil⦠they all have one thing in common
And the new hc looks sick
Until they make activities that lock your build and then you're screwed because you only have one viable set of artifacts
I mean, currently you can just use the same artefact on multiple characters simultaneously
Wait is the hc arc?
The real question is! Are we going for Hand Cannon exotic or sniper š
Iāve figured out NetEaseās favourite element I believe⦠because yes it is
just switch artifacts before you enter the activity?
Lmfao, your main issue is that you want both Ikora and Maru artifacts to still retain on both characters instead of the new system where you can swap anything you want?
Tough choice ngl
Ngl, I dont get the weapon and artifact parts that well
sniper will def be bettr i think. but will have to see
But i like attal a lot ao maybe the hc
I have a feeling new character tier upgrades 1-6 are gonna be broken to make you still want to pull
Yes why not cos itās not like you canāt just swap the artefact to Maru when you use Maru, and swap it to ikora when you use ikora anyways
Im telling you! Some brains arenāt braining
Yeah I had high hopes for this update maybe Iām just overwhelmed by the mass amount of reworks and changes but it seems like theyāre not heading in the right direction. Iām the last person to doom post or hate on the game but some of these changes are meh and not appealing at all
DAWG, THAT'S ONLY ON EXPANSE AND YOU'RE RUNNING EXPANSE ENDLESSLY WITH ONE SINGLE CHARACTER ONLY, NOT SWAPPING THEM š¤£š¤£š¤£
Were still waiting for the crota skins. Hopefully they come with the Update
Just cut out the menu work
Keep doom posting bud
My god, reading isn't a habit for most people šššš
D2 next door ngl
Looks hype to me, and i had little hope
You can just buy them ditectly. For Just getting Tier 6 it should be less costly then drawing
Big update patch and still not happy
Who even are you
But idk, the change to make base stats fixed seems pretty deaf
Most players here are gacha players now
Bro ppl ask for sh then complain! Like what
What ever happened to the skins that the people from the contest mode picked?
The artifact and mythic wep rework kinda scaries me. Hopfully ill understand those
Alx
I like the patch notes
Well yeah because it doesnāt really address any of the issues
Im telling you⦠some ppl lol
I suspect Crota skins will come this season
Even non gacha players mind you, watch them stay away from Warframe when that game is words heavy especially on the mods building section š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
Everything sounds like we got a lot to do
Like the gun development rework is just basically what we currently have but more RNG
I find it hard to understand
Seems interesting, but Im pretty dumb and I got only half of what the weapon and artifact system are changing
I want scrota skins for all characters, sadge
Which is what we want lol we want all of that and somehow still not enough
Fake news
Whyād they make it 3 choice characters only
Scrota skins
The only interesting thing is adept mods and maybe those offering interesting effects
I donāt find it hard to understand more so itās just a lot of changes, could be for the better, and like I said before Iāll play the game till the wheels fall off but I just hope itās for the best
When we even getting those skins btw
I don't see that as a question. Lol
Well meh thatās on them I guessā¦.we got something to do next week š¬šš¾
Tell me you read nothing without telling me you read ahh
Btw, should we be farming something rn?
The point of universal artifacts system is to save resources and only build the ones you needed the most, not wasting those materials to build a separate set for a singular character. š¤¦š»āāļø
Also what happened to the top team getting a ring or something? Never saw real life pictures of that either
More suggestion should pop up as we get closer
Well if thereās something to farm why not lol
And what does this mean:
special effects being abilities or just visuals?
Maybe materials for my Heir Apparent
They only got thanks for it š
Oh I hate Ning more than you. I was forced to waste resources on him early to be competitive. And then I had to be a runner
But mid is disrespectful
Iām stuck between using the pinnacle Iāve saved in mail or waiting for conversion
Damn lol š
The Crota character skins never came out for the people who topped Crota's
Ok you tell me what improvement does the new gun development system offer other than adept mods maybe being interesting
I mean the answer is obvious but curious lol maybe the hc gon be something crazy
And Talents are now Levels right? So when we have a t6 it should be lvl maxed out in the next season?
If his only useful purpose now is to pull better characters to encounters faster, then he is mid at best lmao
:/
They are unhappy in general. That's the secret
The whole contest mode was a hoax at the end of the day then it seems lol
omg everyone here is assuming. no one really knows what effects and things are gonna be. just wait to play rthe game next week. GAWD DAMN. is this so hard
Levels seem like a new thing. Max level is 5, where as talents go to 6
The only resource you're wasting is time, each gun will have a rank system, the higher the rank of the gun you looted, the better the stats, no more separate grinding for mods and upgrading for mods lol
I emptied that out this morning
Iām thinking to do the same
Still hoarding the bounties though just in case
Oh maybe they are selling this in the black market
So our current guns are useless?
Ah forgot about that Iāll do the last 3 days
I thought people still didn't know what type of game they were playing, it's a looter shooter game, the more you grind, the better the gear you have
Your only getting compensated for reserves
When we wait we speculate and converse about it. You canāt sit here and tell people to wait without speculating or talking about it
No, they will rework them
This was the confirmation I was looking for
Yes, it's hard
Thatās like asking everyone to be dumb as Patrick from SpongeBob and just stare at the screen
conversing is one thing. dooming without playing is different
Anything on converting these though?
So basically the same amount of customisation we have now but more RNG grind.
Ie, I donāt see how this improves the system
They making a mistake d2 did
I canāt see why these would convert to glimmer
Yeah Iām not seeing the benefit either tbh
I donāt see much dooming rather than speculation and interest in upcoming changes - Dooming is āthis update will suck, EoS soonā
Or might go into Destiny route where old guns from an old bad system will be forgotten and players get compensated.
You also get rewarded for whatever you spent
Win win
And what would that be?
God i wish. Hated grinding months for bp coins for the battle pass weapon, sucks that the BP weapon are so much better regular exotica too š
Fair LC it is
Like I said, the only interesting thing is adept mods. Maybe those offer big game changing effects like extra ammo generation etc
Iāve literally never seen you in this chat lol, go back into hiding
Thatās what Iām placing my hopes on otherwise it just sounds like extending the godroll chase with no real improvements
Maybe they are selling new Characters with this. This seasons and Last seasons character dropped get additional amplification
A lot of lurkers are going to come out because big update
No, we won't have the same customization, did you read? No more MODS, no more clusters to upgrade those mods, all you have to do is get a max rank weapon and every good mod stats from before is already built.
If Im not here gaslighting that doesnāt mean Im not here lmao
Real, Iām not hating on the new update it just wasnāt what I was expecting tbh, looking forward to seeing how they go about it tho
Lol
Never seen someone use light mode...
What?
These are the items gone next season
Thanks for sharing
You are in the minority though. Lol
This is how they balance
Mods are one of the worst systems with how rare they are
Real, I know lol
And thatās fine with me. Iām down for a chase for something cool
Makes it exciting when you get it
Are we talking mods for weaps? You canāt be serious
What happens to the 2000+ datasets I have - they need to do something
But anyways, this man according me of not reading when he literally skipped the entire paragraph on mods lol
They might mean rng for perfect roll. I'm guessing
And you donāt get everything maxed when you max rank a weapon anyways. Perks have RNG now
Wonder what we are getting for the fruit and stuff? I have a ton and rather not get something useless. Hope this seasonal tokens can buy good stuff and not end up like the pack shop lol
Mythics are becoming more valuable I guess
But what do we get with the seasonal Tokens?
Sounds like another shop
That makes more sense, I grind crotas nonstop so Iāve never had an issue getting the rolls I wanted artifacts on the other hand Iām happy for a rework
Nothing about datasets in those pictures. Guess I keep 2000+ of them
I mean, weāve got like 1000s of engrams stocked lol
pack shop...
Real š
So dry
Which was why I was hooing the new weapon system to offer more customisation
As long as we get more bundles idgaf š
The mods were a terrible system to begin with. Their upgrade material is a pain, the fact that the mods can roll with perks that arent in any of the weapon typeās perk pools, and that the choice mods dont allow perk selection is dumb af
Instead of just the sane thing as now but extra steps
they need to monetize with bundles or its a RIP
I mean, yeah, thatās just the loot chase in a looter shooter
Oh so youāre not talking about the random stat rolls⦠yeah thatās just a skill issue fam I get mass amounts of exotic mods and itās probably the least challenging thing to grind for
Farming for random drops hoping things godroll is like, the entire point of the genre
Half of the rolls are for perks that none of the weapon typeās weapons have. They shouldnāt exist
Anyone else here with 2000+ datasets?
One of the reasons whales leave this game. After buying all the bundles there is nothing else good to buy. The conversion rate for silver to boats is horrible
Yeah those are kinda useless
Let us have a shop for them to trade into mats
This. Silver should be 2x Lumia Value, not 1:1
But crappy rolls that have zero value are a thing in every game
100 datasets for 20 cores or 200 for a cluster
I've never had the issue really. Of course a couple of perfect mods took longer than others
They need to sell Something new with silver. You can draw ( but i think for getting a t6 buying enough Fragments for t6 should be less costly then drawing) and thats it cause black market items except Battle Pass Tokens you dont need cause you could Farm everything currently in when Energy goes away
Trust me fam I know
I want more bundles lol
Been stacking name changes the past few days just to buy something
Just⦠WHY
Because Iām not broke
Hahaha
Half of those bundles arent even worth itš
A whale is gunna whale
Rage bait the poor. Respect.
Quite subjective
Look at them. Here they come lol
Lmao
Use your money, bruh
Nah 2k silver for 20 BP Currency and some BM coins is NOT worth lol
Tastes like poverty in here.
The bundles are the best bang for your buck. After you buy them it's not worth spending any more money sadly
And thats only from t6 Kabr/hairkora, Energy and black market. Should be less when Energy and black market goes away
W
I spent Ā£500 on a fidget toy and Iām sure 99% of people would call that a waste of money too lol
One thing for sure two things for certain. Whales are going whale
I mean half the bundles arenāt worth, it just looks like it is compared to the terrible silver shop prices
Facts bro can keep that mid spender methodology away from me
Nah thatās understandable. I have ADHD and would 100% do that if I werent saving for a car
Nah that's low spender energy š¤£
That is so worth
Thatās lowkey fire
Itās cool as hell tbh
Fidget gun is actually insane
getting a car with these gas prices /s
lol 6$ a gallon in cali rn
Sign me up
Getting a car with these public transport prices /s
Bro spams this gif I swear š
Imagine if we were getting a fusion+sniper char 
I Hope the new Sniper rifle has more dps then albeit š«
Just found this in game
im at $1.7/litre in canada rn which is like $4.6/gallon i think
Iām seriously considering a EV as my first car rn
Event Content:
At the start of each season, Lightbearers' items and materials will be settled, and resource compensation will be issued. The quantity will be converted into "Seasonal Tokens," which can be exchanged for resources based on the current season phase.
⢠Conversion Rules:
- "Extra Pinnacle Energy" and "Challenger's Keys" will be fully dismantled and converted into rare items for the new season.
- "Elemental Fruit," "Artifactual Cluster," "Metastable Core," "Occultation Essence," and "Ops Authorization" will be converted into "Seasonal Tokens" based on the corresponding ratio.
- Excess quantities of other upgrade materials will be converted into "Seasonal Tokens."
Finally so answer on conversion coming up
Mid spenders can be my friend too.
Unfortunately that's no money energy
I mostly get around with an e-scooter atm anyways
I just hope they do something about the battle pass weapon being so much better than any regular exotic weapon. Or at least make getting extra copies a little easier
Lmao the poor always gunna hate tho
Whats Ops authorisation?
The only problem with EVs is that theyāre kind of expensive
Tf is a liter
Jk thatās insane
Maybe we can get more exotic engrams with Just Farming or the Battle Pass Tokens should be farmable
Trust 
I live an hour from campus, I am NOT scootering 90 minutes lmao
Yeah the impoverished are not happy ppl. Especially when they see the opposite.
Well. That doesn't work
hehe
Hope this "rare items" are actually rare and not something like the canisters lol
Wait if I moved a boost could I use it then
Pls tell me yāallās geese arenāt that big
If so Iām never going to Canada
damn u have never seen our cobra chickens?
They steal the syrup to grow big and stronk
just to let everyone know, i will be choosing efrideet for everything and she will become my entire personality, so you need to switch NOT me š¤
-# uwu
Saw you talking about it yesterday š
owo
Will just use Wolf
If you canāt read a couple lines you have bigger issues š
yeah you better >:(
She a demon
Always funny seeing new lights spam wolf for every activity lol
Youngest Iron Lady for a reason
HC+ sniper is ⦠quite a choice tho lol
audhd 
Helhast was the Last Support right? Maybe we are getting a new one midseason
D2 Hunter pvp Meta
itās beautiful, as beautiful as the day i met hawkmoon/longbow
BRING MALFEASANCE INTO DRISING NETEASE
Personally I'm saving all the goodies for next char for the upgraded Ume
Bring kratos to rising!āļø Would t7 him!
Those poor clotho employees suffering in gambit
A collaboration would be nice
Next support needs to do something crazy to be even the same class as her. Probably something with ability cool downs?
Also RF found dead in a trench
Maybe getting everyone in the Team a ultimate as an ability
Necro 
Just make the next Support much better then HH. Let her burn in hell(hast)
What if Helhest, but dps
Or Just make the new Characters a big Power boost to the older ones. So everyone needs the new ones and use them.
So you dont need to Nerf HH
HH with 3x her DPS but same abilities
-# ||pls ||||delete ||||Helhest||
She was a mistake and probably released too early in the games life span.
Sheās just severely overtuned by accident
Mk back to sleep. laterssss
Honestly they should open PVP 24/7
I don't think that it would revive that mode
Would revive if they did something nice with pvp
Like trails of osiris and the osiris set
Exclusive loot would help it
Whats Up with the past glory bundle? So whales which spent alot more Energy and Keys get Extras?
Yeah, like unique raid sets like crota or the taken king
Every pvp event was like dead in a couple of days. No one wants pvp lol
Exotic capes for hunters or exotic body armor for titans
They donāt have enough manpower to make content for both PvE and PvP, so they chose the more popular one
Idk why people are still whining about pvp being dead
What is bro on about?
I just saw the patch notes June 18 is marked as the season end so that's the eos right

Only her T5 is over tuned tbh. If she didnāt get 6(up to 12) stacks of salvo she wouldnāt do as much damage. Itās them salvo stacks.
Fortunately T6 Ikora can keep up with her damage(especially if thereās no precision Shinka to pop). Long as they keep releasing units on Ikoraās level, T5+ HH will become more and more of a support as the game goes on
End of Seasons. Gotta gacha for DLC after that
Cloudstrike in d risingš š where my smg sentinel titan
I want to recreate my trials build š
Letās hope they bring a little life back to it in S4+
Idk I want them to focus on the PvE experience
I mean if there are more ppl playing there will be more people playing pvp
Fixing the issues with PvE endgame is already a huge endeavor
Of course, but a small team working to make the PvP experience better also wouldnāt hurt to have
The whole team is a small team
They kinda took the game out back, shot it, and remade it from scratch it looks like system wise
At least make gates better in some way
I doubt we have like 300 people on DR lol
Or just put Iron Bar with Shifting Gates and have them rotate
Better to focus on pve first before pvp, to keep some of the pve only players happy
Wait, so we are back to the Close Alpha character leveling system + lv 90.
I really hope LE charms concert well... I have 130. Needing character shards to level is gonna suck tho ngl, do we know how those are obtained?
Oh wait, I wonder if they still come from BANNERS and thats why they havent announced maybe?
Agree about Gates, that seems much more doable than more PVP maps and all the balancing that comes with it. For a PvPvE the balancing matters but maybe a little less
You can still summon for characters
Im assuming you have to pull to level still then?
The only pvp that might work is 1v1 pvp atp tbh
Hopefully its just whatever the old system was for the lv 90 char. Shards needed
Gates does have PvE element too so it fits with the āfocus on PvE firstā mindset 
I donāt think a 18 player activity is gonna ever be not just bot fiesta atp
The game is too small for SG to make a comeback
Even much bigger games like WWM struggles to fill lobbies that size
What the hell is WWM
Where NetEase Meets
Destiny is Big and I think Rising can go bigger but itās down to NetEase if they want to do that tho
Im just wanting them to not end support for an actual decent mobile game, my man.
Question, do we know, what will happen to any mods we get rn?
I saw great hunt event in the overview and saw no date or time, do you think it's on launch or the week after
I'd assume the week after due to changes
Some time in April
Does anyone know if Character Rolls have been removed from the server
The game will be here for a long while, nothing can outrun Eos
Unless it's d2
True. But the longer it lasts, the better.
Ouch! Also true.
We just need bikini skins that cost five hundred dollars that get skimpier with dupes and the whales will sustain the game for decades
Test
Nope š¤
So why canāt I find it then
Character Rolls is not showing up for me
Was a limited time thing. Channel might be hidden now
So it was removed.
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saw the game is being updated. where is the best place to read about all the changes coming next week?
In game patch notes
They are already out in game? Nice, ill go check
You'll need a good 5 minutes to read them too
Sooo we getting another raid
Yes
Nice
Some time in April, but we got the gauntlet blitz to keep us occupied
I also see there a new character
Didnt read that
What are they doing?
Boneyard I wonder if it's a 4 man activity
Ok yeah that was alot. Seems promising
You can go on Destiny Rising Mobile reddit, a mod posted the patch notes there, easier to read.
Hahahaha Reddit
In game notice
Of course
That should not be a surprise
I made a suggestion to the developers here on discord! In regards to this. I hope to get more thumbs up 
Lol don't worry someone else told me about it
Has Season started?
Nope
No, next week
also is the bp hand cannon legit just malfesance?
the model is like, 90 percent the same lol
What does the season include?
Its the new rsr region
story or new map?
Ah I see
Check the patch notes
Looks like they threw the drill inside of malfeasance lol
Everything it looks like lmfao
I'm actually excited that the gacha system is effectively ditched!... I know there r still ways the game charges for extras and I 100 percent am all for that... But my major gripe (the chance based character pull that costs real money) is gone
where ?
In game notice or on reddit. A mod posted full notes there
I mean it wasnt that bad, even as F2P, i got character T1s consistently after i knew what to do
The gacha rates was never the problem with the game
So how easy will c6ing characters be compared to the old system?
Pple are lucky this game didnāt have 50/50 to start
Itās how the gacha affects the design that was the issue (and will still be)
You can still draw for talents. The gacha isnāt fully gone
have they said what will happen to keys
Well it never made sense for this one to have 50/50
I donāt think a game of this production level can do 50/50s lol
Ok so my previous c6ās arenāt just given away now good
Read patch notes šāāļøšāāļø
Turned into materials for s4
50/50s are for the big gacha games
i see
also what does the timer mean on crotas end like is it going away??
Looks like it is
In exchange for a dungeon and a raid
Iām curious on what the adept mods do
Probably give some kind of exotic effect
Are we gonna finally have more customisation effects like ammo efficiency etc
Cos the actual gun progression rework is kind of a nothing burger
Just what we currently have but with more steps basically
NetEase for whatever reason has never reinvested back into their mobile games
Even Diablo immortal with how much money it made still basically gets abandoned
would be weird to rip malfeasance so hopefully it has a different perk setup
So is operation cordon exactly the same as it was or is there something new?
Also what are the end game team player activities
I just played calamity and honestly its boring
cordon has its own arenas/maps now instead of just the pit
is how i read it anyway
its also seemingly replacing calamity ops and calamity ops is dead
release is next thursday right?
Welcome back to the Pit
damn we got a new pit thats sick
Nah, you never escaped the Pit
"Feeding Trough" what the hell is a Trough?
Part of the Pit
a trough is the thing you put food in
Endless expanse, endless cordon and also a bunch of endgame Adept difficulty activities
like you ever see people feed pigs by dumping food into that like long cylinder bowl thing, thats a trough
Oh
Must be a really big Trough
You can now do corden in the Pit after you do your legendary campaign runs in the Pit
yea i mean technically i think a trough could be like a canyon if you were feeding something big enough
game of thrones dragons or something
We will soon have lore about those cabals that are worshipping that big Calus look alike
well the like blog post thing they did said somethng about the dragons messing up the timelines they couldve just yoinked calus into rising without thinking about it
dragons are the ultimate retcon machine
This green light better not turn red. Or I will turn red
Thatās life bro
Calus is in this timeline probably and it be before Ghaul overthrew him
Not really what they meant
Endless expanse and adept difficulty activities i like. But cordon was like if u didn't finish in time you were stuck in the stage
And cordon didn't have match making. I hope they have match making for it in the later stages
I liked that cordon had a set multiplier for your entire time limit rather than the decreasing multiplier, it didn't matter if you got it done in 3 min or 5 min as long as you got it done you progressed
My main complaint is that they should allow bots in the event that a lobby is empty for all activities
also just use fireteam finder, game literally launched with an entire system for in-game matchmaking. If we start to have a good sized population again I'm sure it'll be more active
I hope they do some marketing for that
Cos regardless of how good or not good S4 is, no oneās gonna be here if they donāt know itās a thing
Make Legendary Campaign to be playable with people
From what Iāve read, they are adding more grind, while also adding a seasonal reset for the materials obtained from that grind.
Agreed on both points!... I just remember being stuck in a lobby in D1 and D2 for out of season activities
Yeah i like that between cordon and endless expanse it seems like they went for endurance vs. Speedrunning, much healthier
Until Bungie decided to bring that horrible horrendous portal
oh yeah that's right, i didn't even consider the fact that expanse time limits for keys are gone
Dude I just don't want this game to go the way of D2... Especially if we get something comparable to Forsaken
Forsaken was more a product of how rough D2 Base was
I want a Forsaken, Witch Queen era
YES!!!
I like the idea of expanse being how long can you last over speed
nice to have something not exclusively speed related potentially
Get rid of the timer
I hate been forced to speed run
the per-round timer still needs to be there for expanse or everyone's just gonna sit around with kabr
I mean, higher stage should take more priority if they scale the rounds well
Yeah especially if there's a leaderboard or something... Maybe have a sort of hoard mode where enemies constantly spawn in and they just get more numerous and powerful as time goes on
unless I read it wrong, expanse is moving to endless mode now
Yeah I saw that... I read it as endless rounds
yea
maybe add some towers to help you defend against the horde š¤
Thatās even better
Anyway I just now learned about the upcoming update so I'm gonna actually go read it since I finally have downtime
Time to make a sandwich out of them dregs
shudders the portal shudders
lol š
I donāt see any mention of how netease plans to make money, moving forward. There are hints, like discounted purchases. Other than that, this feels intentionally misleading.
There was so many people saying she wasnāt arc 𤣠I bet they feel dumb
Probably cosmetics
Yeah lets see how that works..they shouldnt reset everything, otherwise it will feel not rewarding enough again
It wouldnāt surprise me if Eververse is coming to the game
We need more skiiins
I want a the most stickiest Tan 2 skin
Be Fenchurch first as Tess hasn't been born š
You know what I mean lol
š
I do lol. So much money spent on D1 and D2 Eververse
Just dropped a vid on my channel
Count me that as 1 of them
My clan mates often joked on how much I spent on silver in D1 that probably funded D2
I do look back sometimes and thought like I should have never done it but when you see something that appeals to you.
Bank card comes straight out
Well, they are. Itās just more grind, for less reward. That reward getting then taken away each season. From bulwark ops towers, to any upgrade mats including even fruits, and whatever else they intentionally didnāt list. Each season is 3 months now, too.
I regret nothing š. Probably missed out on other games. But I needed that dance
I need themSparrows, Ghosts, Ships, Ornaments for my weapons and guardian
I think season rewards are the reason to play the
While I PERSONALLY don't spend money on skins I do acknowledge that fashion is a core aspect of the Destiny franchise... That being said for both D1 and D2 I grab all the expansions I can... Unfortunately even tho I bought Forsaken (and everything before it) I couldn't experience it (or even the ending to the red war) cuz of life obligations
Iām hoping that the Season 4 pass has the wish cosmetics on there
If this is what you are into, sure. Donāt expect everyone to want to play the exact same content as before tho, for worse rewards that just get taken away.
is NA the only active region? i cant queue for anything on EMEA
bulwark ops 1/3 10 minutes, crota 1/6 21 minutes
I always play Bulwark on my own I can never find a squad
But itās Friday now so PvP is open
this update looks amazing
hopefully we get full cross region with the update
no pvp mentioned though,,,,,,
Itās coming later this year
Sg will still be available right?
Yeah bro
Iāve come back for round 2
Anything interesting pop up ?
the seasonal stuff is interesting i guess they dont want you hoarding 25000 clusters at the end of a season and then just insta maxing the next character each time but thats kinda understandable i guess
Still hold it until last day to actually claim something that canāt be claimed again
Yeah leaderboards are been taken away
Iāve seen it for myself have the screen shot and we will forever know you as #1 power leaderboard xuan @red geyser
calamity ops is dead, cordon is replacing it.
Ah I know this one
Efrideet is a piercing arc hunter, hand cannon and sniper rifle
Was a good call imo
I knew she was arc but was expecting her to be rapid fire
OH theyre removing elemental-specific exotic artifacts. You can use any exotic artifact for any character now
Yah u can either burn thru the energy or save the pinnacle. Both options are valid as per notes
Got last copy of concerto so Iām just thinking to max all the catalyst now.
Interesting, Njorun's a dude
Only got 3 weapon left to do
Wait btw @red geyser you see we getting new weapons:)
Hook up xuan this season 2
Leaving my mark on history
Noooooo omg 
@twilit thistle are you spending your pinnacle or keeping it ?
I spent ton of time grinding for jaren
"// SIGNAL RESTORED //
We have regained control of this frequency. Njorun's games end now.
Do not be swayed by his gifts. The price of a wish is always too high."
LMAO dont trust an Ahamkara
i think you def spend everything tbh
So Vague why ārare itemsā why not specific š©
I doubt they give us actual rare items
if theyre treating clusters like essence you get rid of all your clusters for sure
For it
time to burn my pinnacle on LC
So are Lumia Leaves and the Boat Charms staying? Or being converted too?
Staying
Wait use up clusters ?
so are they getting rid of all the character level up mats in s4?
Wonāt they just be converted like for like?
Why would I log in? They are just going to delete anything I obtain.
Ok ill use them now only got Kabr to finish anyways
Which is best spending pinaccle and gain activity stats or wait for conversion
i think based on them saying they are gonna give you the same rewards for metastable cores as clusters, you should use the clusters
use your yellow pinnacle until the last 3 days probably, don't use blue pinnacle
Bon voyage charms are stilll rewards
Gain activity stats
Wait if they're getting rid of the gacha system what use r boat charms and Lumia leaves?
send some weapon masteries on characters you dont play much
Dont have blue so ok ill grind these 7bdays
I wonder what her kit will be like? Maybe a hybrid of Ning Fei and Helhest?
Blue pinnacle will be converted
Ok
The gacha is still there
I wonder what guns I'm gonna wanna use on efrideet
yeah that's what i'm saying, yellow pinnacle won't stack over 360 so use all of it until the last 3 days
So the gacha and character fragment system will live side by side?
But we donāt know whatās it being converted into
Correct
A hybrid of Jaren and Helhest I mean then? Like her abilities
And if itās worth it
im wondering waht the season exotic will be for her lol
3 new exotics
HC already mentioned in the patch notes
i mean i've been playing daily since launch, i don't think anything else i do is going to be that major of a change. Id rather get some new materials personally
for the people stacking thousands of blue pinnacle do whatever you want lol
Can it be equipped on Xuan Wei ?
but that sounds like its from the new gauntlet onslaught
True
Yeah its from onslaught. I wonder why no new blitz ones
dayum all 3 of the new exotics are gonna be Arc burn
Helhest still is queen
So i should spend the yellow until 23rd and then stop?
ikora with wardcliff gonna be pretty hilarious
Wish I could but itās only limited to how much you can buy
Letās goo , helhest forever baby
tbh i wish they bring out ghallahorn for ikora lol
for yellow that's what i'm thinking. if you go over 360 on yellow pinnacle it gets wiped away
Yeah yellow is gone for good , and I donāt think thatās being converted
Only the blue
they never specified
its kinda specified when they say pinnacle energy is gone in season 4 lol
Imma use half and keep halfnof those i have in mail then
i mean wether yellow pinnacle will be converted or not
Efrideet gonna have a movement ability probably. Maybe an electric smoke bomb dash or teleport
Exactly lol yellow is going
Roguish creature @red geyser
Just to be sure lol
I hope so
Handcannon and sniper is my dream combo , this is the perfect character for me
gotcha ima still keep playing each day i want to keep improving my jaren even though the leaderboards are leaving
Cloudstrike is gonna be meta but I bet she'll be strong af with Crimson
correction lol estella got thunderlord
I donāt play estella
Why would you waste them if they are going to be unlimited next week, they didnāt mention anything about reducing the drop rate, last case just wait a couple days in case they release more info
I play Kabr 1.0 š
This is the best part , we can use any artifacts now on any element
yeahhhh hoping this lets us create interesting and weird builds instead of min/maxing the meta
The one sucky thing is that artifacts are BY character now, they cant be equipped same arts on same chars
All those god rolls can be easily transferred
This somewhat feels like is going to benefit Efrideet 
You only play one character at a time anyways
You can just switch them off
Yeah but moving stuff every time you swap would be a real pain....
Or i.e iron games you swap mid activity and cannot swap then
she's labeled as an offense character like Ning and Jaren but I feel like her abilities are gonna be kinda hybrid
I'd rather have that over matching element artefacts
if you didnt grind sure. but i know theres a lot of ppl who have multiple lol
Those people are ready to win for sure
Matching element has been such a non issue for me, sinxe we get so many exotic chests
ive been waiting for this lol
I mean i mostly used the same set to get my 4* up in case.... all my 5* use different ones since they got tailored
i have so many good artifacts but wrong element.
one thing that wasnāt mentioned was the exotic weapons system. Apparently, the āexotic infusion coresā and the āphotonsā will remain as they are.
Oh nice š
I am excited. I have been gathering artifacts with solar, void and arc attribute for up coming new weapons for him.
Hard Light exotic I want see in Rising
I just read the seasonal notice and now my brain is over stimulated. Prob gunna have to read it like 5 more times to take it in š
I just want the 26th to hurry up
Does anyone know the exotic on the battle pass
Thatās it
A hand cannon
Till eternal death
i think her Bis will be cloudstrike though
Lord have mercy
Thatās from the game itself
Something I will never use a hand cannon
I love it
it looks like the malfeasance
thought it was malf at first too
Is this a bow
its a handcannon
It looks like a bow
how?
Itās just 3 hand cannons stacked
How does it look like a hand cannon lol
-_-
how about now lol
You all need to prove a point to show a top part of the picture
this is bait right
Definitely
here mf
Donāt swear at me
You all need abit of respect
naw your just a clown
Respect in discord
Itās in my name. Youāre not the first nor the last to say it
This is changing the game
Completely
Some will
Love it and some will hate it
I like all the changes tho
Basically I think Iāve almost level 1 my weapon pool
Current MAx weapons are level 0 80
All that past grinding for most of the resources to be converted anyways
S4 is basically forsaken 2.0
Once you go to 90 it resets but levels
They added star tiers
And do process all over again
Once you reach cap , you need to level up the stars now
And how do you do that?
Are they wiping all artifacts progression?
We won't be able to upgrade our old artifacts with the enchantment system being gone
Because if u use it now u gain activity stats or thats hiw i understood it at least
Ready to welcome the I quits back, come give us a hug.
i just read the update notes.... damn... someone cleverer than me tell me how to prep - its so long xD
ready for the next round of 'we havent gotten a blog post in 2 weeks we're EoS' back
Use all your pinnacle energy
ngl i was close at a few points but it looks like a massive overhaul - welcome back destiny rising
the handcannon looks sick icl
Just keep some pinnacle to see what the new season rewards they get u in that shop
but ive been here since day 1 :))))
Yellow pinnacle energy won't be converted
I still don't understand what this part means
the maintenance will take all day its so much content lmao its practically a new game
:/ so it just disappears?
Obviously
Is it 100% confirmed only the blue will? Sorry but havent read the patch cuz have no time atm
also - RANDOM GUNS HOLYYYYYYYYYYYY ADEPT MODS HOLYYYYYYY 'EXPERT EXOTIC MODS' HOLYYYYY
WELCOME BACKKKK LOOTTTTT
Yeah lol that why they gonna end it like 2 hr earlier
thats sick rene
Bori could go hard on Efrideet ngl
it means you can send a stat over to an artifact
They did say "extra energy"
god rolls ezpz for substats
Can't wait for the new raid rocket launcher to be better than truth after fully upgrading it š š
Oh ok then thanks
are incandescence clusters being removed
Would that new hc be better then TLW?
For arc yes
Maybe for efri but not jaren
hand cannon skins are going crazy in this game ngl
Non shield have to wait for Morgan
Yeah they loook siiiick
Thunderlord!
Estella eating good with that one
truth and wardcliff are basically the same iirc, both tracking rockets?
Need to finish
We are so back
so wait does that mean our current artifacts are useless?
outdated profile pic
Dude so much to read š
Yes
never forget š«”
i love the renewed focus on endgame endless, cordon is such a better alternative to cal ops and endless expanse sounds awesome
hopefully tower defense gets an update too
Wardcliffe only one I want
Dudee Im soo tempted to spend my artifictual essences š«
new mod system for weapons
also a past glory loot pack??
Only 3 new exotics right?
4 at least
Thunderlord would be great IF they would BRING AN ARC RAPID UNIT IN
im expecting a season weapon maybe?
That artifact won't be able to be enchanted in s4
Never
curious how they will return S3 and under exotic BP weapons
Kabr 1.0
rapid fire and all the new content wouldāve been peak refresh
Yeah. Ima just save em lol
Least I have 3 new weapons to spend my 2000+ datasets on
Roll on Thursday
didn't we see the ornaments for the bp HC already?
Yupp
prestige raid is sick!
New exotic mod tier?
Is Prestige more harder
This brings back eclipse i think?
most def. it says it in the notes
Adept mods are gonna be the new chase on endgame
Oh ok
yup essentially
should i use my challenger keys
Yes
use or save. the choice is yours lightbearer
Eh, challenger keys will be converted to new materials. Wait until tomorrow to see if we get more info and then make a decision
The past glory event sounds interesting
i still think the 21st thing on the calander is what we are currently getting cuz its march 21 in China now. im still expecting a video though. but i could be wrong
They could have a video that isn't public yet, open on the 21st
WHY ARE THEY TAKING AWAY OUR ELEMENTAL FRUITS?????
time to get scurvy.
i guess the only thing to do now is just stock up on exotic weapon materials
thats the safest bet. that and photons
Finally no pinnacle
For better materials
i was going to spend the last week of this season getting my jaren closer to rank 1 but since they are getting rid of the leaderboards thats pointless
What about the mythic weapons we have niw will they be worthless
Maybe
Most of our stuff will either be useless or s4 materials
lmao ya. let them sunset our entire inv and makes us start back at lvl 1.
I might as well dismantle the artifacts that I don't use
Thay wont work dor s4?
I didnāt need all 3k of my fruits anyways
The enchantment system won't work anymore for s4, so yes
Also what this about 5 levels of a character. Is it talents ir another thing?
Another thing
Star tiers ?
Could be
I feel like the star thing is a prestige type of thing
23 hours till the reveal or earlier
I havent loaded up to this game in a hot minute (Like 4-5 months) what changes have they done? I kinda wanna play it a little bit in between marathon rounds
A LOT of changes
Next season is pretty much a new game
The changes to energy and characters are next season?
Yes, and a ton of other stuff
is there a patch list somewhere i can read through?
Anyone know what the rare rewards will be given for our extra pin? Should I waste all 3310 pin or save and let it be taken? And pray its luma leafs? Or something of equal value for new update or what should I try to farm?
Yes in game on notes as always
Save
And use regular pinnacle energy instead
Really kk
Im scared what if we get bad stuff in return after saving so much pin for nothing
Ill look up a video or something on it ig
Make sure to delete all of your unequipped artifacts because they will be useless in s4
No they won't? It says copies will ne used instead of artifact essence to upgrade and noe its a 1-5 upgrade so shouldn't we keep?
Idk about that
Your artifacts before s4 uses a enchantment system (won't exist in s4) which makes it useless
You really think they won't update current artifacts to the new system?
Yeah thats what I'm saying
Not the artifacts that we have already acquired
What sgould i spend my pinnacle on? Chaos or morgran or legacy
legendary campaign
The 3 i mentioned arent worth it?
not compared to legendary campaign
they didnt mention anything about exotic weapon mats so its safe to assume theyre still valuable
I see ok
the new artifact system will make getting god rolls 100x easier
youll just need like 15 of them instead of 1 
Out with the old, in with the new
This is sunset 2.0
100%
idk it sounds like the weapons are getting converted to the new system
this is closer to getting forsaken than deleting red war
the mats being dumped i think is just them preventing hoarding
I can see the weapons getting converted
Im a hoarder
they want you to have to gear your efrideet or like invest time into her to get power instead of slamming last months currencies instantly maxing her etc
and thats probably good for retention assuming the activities are fun
Theyāll be good for getting the attributes on new ones: elemental resistance, defense, health, weapon enhancement, etc. if nothing elseā¦
So I have 18 incandescent clusters saved for the new character, are they even gonna be usable or should I burn them on other characters???
burn them
Don't, we still don't know if they'll be useful or not
Atleast we got some use out of them bore they enter the sunset vault
you do they literally said theyre converting them
Not clusters
yes clusters
Donāt! They only gated the new clusters to S4 in exchange to āhelp get a head startā in the new season. Not to replace them.
They don't mention incandescent clusters, only artifactual clusters
And if I burn them will it even matter because the power system for characters will be different so will upgrading weapon mastery matter or will that change
yeah there is no mention of inc or mobius clusters
What will happen to artifactual clusters?
oh im cooked
They mention that expanse will reward mobius clusters so it's safe to assume they will stay
Mobius and Incadescents are mentioned as rewards for future events/activities.
New materials
And current exchange event**
i wonder if we get the calam ops cycle rewards
They're removing gilding by the looks of it so they will be useless, the ones you have will be converted to season tokens
So I should use them up to level my artifacts before they are deleted
Artifactual clusters are used for gilding, not artifacts. You're thinking of artifactual essence
We don't know what's gonna happen to essence, it's not explicitly mentioned
Yes, artifactual essence my bad
And when it comes to artifact gilding and the fruits and clusters Iāve already used to max all but finala will I be compensated for those used mats, because they said theyāre converting all the fruits/clusters in inventory. BUT I ALREADY MAXED MINE SO IM JUST OUT ALL THE NEW MATS CAUSE I DIDNT HOARD THEM IN INVENTORYā¦..
Save that for the newer s4 versions of the artifacts
Bs for top end players who grinded and used the upgrade materials
Probably not, if they're removing gilding then they might compensate for the upgraded nodes but who knows
I've been hard-core saving lol
No one forced you to level up every character
it wont matter anyway odds are theyre gonna give you some miniscule amount of infinitely grindable currency
Who wants to join vc and see my dragon type hoarding
And with the new s4 systems it's best to stick to a character that you will play with for the rest of the season
Well what else was there to do endgame than shoot for rank 1 in power once you had pretty much everything
Yeah, it's probably gonna be a super small advantage that won't matter in the long run
youll wind up getting 40 artifact reroll currency for your 6 months of materials
and then someone else will grind the 40 reroll currency in 2 hrs 
What would be really nice is if they let you scrap the 100+ random garbage decal glows clogging my inventory
I don't think rerolling itself is gonna exist anymore
the new system sounds like dice without needing dice
That's like intentionally sabotaging yourself
It's basically get same artifact piece to upgrade existing artifact base attributes and you can switch out substats if you actually get that one on another piece that you will infuse
they already described it, youre gonna wind up playing a 25% lottery and getting mad when you fail
Iād have as many exotic core but Iāve been condensing all the weapons to catalyst band 3 so I donāt have 4 copies of each one
but a 1/4 chance to get a god roll is better than whatever we have now so screw it
i just wonder how long the update is gonna take. server gonna be down for a while i presume
Plus, power level leaderboards are gone as well. So aside from really hitting stat goals for damage or healing really not a big deal to gloss over
Bruh I'm want to know what they mean by rare rewards in exchange for pin and keys why couldn't they state it
well its like if you have
weapon weapon
super super
ability signature
arc solar
you just mash em together and hope the solar on the right one becomes ability but its 25%
Everyone bringing their favourite character to the raid even at a shinka type disadvantage
then you just keep doin that til you win
Push Calamity leaderboards, expanse leaderboards, any missing triumphs/seals which could mean playing the casual modes or doing jumping puzzles like the ones in the realm of the 9, C3 every weapon
Help your pack mates
PvP some bots
Thisā¦not updated but Iāve done a few more upgrades
I have 4 more weapons to C3. But they all have 4 or more infusions
Have all seals and most all triumphs and only have like 5 c2 exotics left to c3
But whats gonna happen to uh, Legendary campaign since pinnacles are gone
they are still there
With more added missions
There ya go, and you can still push for
Leaderboards and help pack mates
Now we will have more to do⦠hopefully itās fun and we get more content drops now that they finished the overhaul
Iām more stubborn I donāt have concerto user :/ so holding off
Im not upgrading anything ngl just been saving using Ning my whole time lol
You're going to be ahead of us
Seems like it šš¾ nice lumi
Yeah no 4 star using them is a bit off. They should drop a 4 star with Efrideet or the unit after her. I want Void Tolund with Bad Juju and the LMG with the Void Beekeper as a 4 star using smg and sniper or something
Before they send us to the moon, they should give us mythic Wolf
They could drop arc wolf with Efrideet and make him impact/spread with dual pistols and GL
Areas have heroes
Big cope but would be cool to see a different version of wolf as a 4 star
That could also be a possibility
I can see new 4*s with new banners coming in S4
Then later on make a void wolf, then finally drop a 5 star prismatic wolf
That one would have a quarter of the sentinel armor as a way to show progress
Iām fine with most of the changes cause they make the game more casual friendly and allows more reasons for people to come to and back to the game itās the changes that sunset the things a lot of the whales and late endgame players have sink time into. And it feels wrong to dismiss their efforts when they were the ones who stuck with the game through this slump
Like we have offense solar wolf. They can make defense arc wolf then support void wolf with different weapon combos and thatāll set prismatic wolf up. Let us get them all through the story - something Iāve wanted for a while. Itās similar to WuWa and Genshin with their main character
yeah expanding on wolf will be peak. but thats copium we are smoking
They have more to do now
A lot more
Especially if your end game pushing
And if your capped now your at head start
I mean they could do it. Wolf is this gameās true lightbearer, so it makes a lot of sense for the story to give us a Void and Arc version, then later on a Prismatic version through a banner(with his first copy being through the story)
Instead of prismatic they should make something unique, like a fusion with all of the elements into the sentinel form
Fair point
Prismatic is all of the elements being combined into one, so this is basically what Iām saying