💭│main-chat

[storm scroll]

Not I

[slate sphinx]

Yeah couldn’t be us

[storm scroll]

You clearly weren't in the beta lol

[edgy helm]

Anything new to story or nah

[slate sphinx]

Nope I only focus on the present. Like my goated Xuan

[storm scroll]

Sure. That's 2 different things though lol

[sharp talon]

octant is so op

[slate sphinx]

Turn his whip into a sniper. Then turn his punch into a nuke

[storm scroll]

Then why comment on me talking about the beta? Make it make sense 😆

[misty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny2-telesto-worship-gif-27069018

[slate sphinx]

I’m only speaking the wei

[remote grove]

Wait wat

[storm scroll]

In general? Or on xuan?

[golden spade]

It's going to be hard. See the events and what you need to do. Forgot the whole system to be honest

[misty marsh]

Apparently it's been in files since launch

But I'm not a techie so I gotta take what I read

[slate sphinx]

A blue gun is OP on Xuan. It’s him that’s good!

[misty marsh]

Imagine if they added one two punch shotties lmao

[storm scroll]

They give you free I pulls for doing the objectives. Get after it

[slate sphinx]

Unironically I think Tan2 is like the worst character

[remote grove]

I mean he was alright till

[slate sphinx]

My blue queen

And then arbalest made her even better lmao

[remote grove]

They mind as well make a bikini skin for helhest too

[storm scroll]

Thats hilarious because I used to argue w ppl that got mislead by ppl they thought knew the way. They swore on Tan based on outdated playtest knowledge. Insomnia led many astray. Izzy is goated. Tan, not so much

[misty marsh]

That's not too farfetched. I got t4 in 10

[storm scroll]

He was only ever good for issakis speeds

[remote grove]

True lol maybe thats why I said that

[storm scroll]

He's still useful for that, but who cares about that atp?

[remote grove]

Yeah no lol

[potent hill]

Wait really? How?

[slate sphinx]

They give 60 free draws

Just play and do ur dailies

[remote grove]

Theres an event that gives 60 free draws just for spending energy, bounties

[slate sphinx]

Or just use

[remote grove]

Better get started now tho lol

[golden spade]

Under "events" look at hidden liason.

[misty marsh]

Tbh u don't even need a splash char. Alt mode on symmetry breaks splash shinkas even w no stacks

[slate sphinx]

Real advice: don’t level any 4* unless you use Umeko

[signal phoenix]

I’m going to pretend I knew what this is 😀

[misty marsh]

Attal simps united

[misty marsh]

Raid weapon

[slate sphinx]

I’m one mythic mod away from maxxed attal

[misty marsh]

Mythic mod??

[slate sphinx]

Or whatever it is exotic mod

[signal phoenix]

Step one download game

[remote grove]

Good luck

[magic lichen]

i saw that msg get removed. GOD!?

[signal phoenix]

How old is this game btw

[remote grove]

Like 5 months or sum

[signal phoenix]

Oh it’s new ish

[slate sphinx]

Did you mean Xuan?

[storm scroll]

Bad advice. You do realize his event is over and this person is trying to get free pulls

[signal phoenix]

Rip

[storm scroll]

Ikora H>Kabr

[remote grove]

Yeah if u need a spread character go with hairkora lol

[magic lichen]

let me carry these ops with symmetry.

[signal phoenix]

I need everything

[remote grove]

Overseer calamity letsgo

[signal phoenix]

[livid sable]

Ikoras actually fun at least

[signal phoenix]

No pic perms 🗑️

[magic lichen]

her hair drops my frames.

[remote grove]

Kabr is prolly easier for new players tbh but still cant recommend it lol

[slate sphinx]

[misty marsh]

Works on GMS and normal content. Need a gm vid to prove it?

[livid sable]

Ngl that content is easy af

[storm scroll]

Kabr's event is over. We are trying to help this guy who has not been on since Gwynn. He wants to know aboutFREE pulls

[livid sable]

But the game is in general

[slate sphinx]

I wanna send a video of xuan in here how do I do that

[misty marsh]

It's not advice. It's a mechanic. Btw it works with an un upgraded symmetry

[storm scroll]

Can you read or not. This is not for me bruh.

[sharp talon]

xuan > all

[slate sphinx]

True

[remote grove]

Just volley mode on riot octant does this

[bitter estuary]

balls

[storm scroll]

I know what symmetry does lol

[magic lichen]

@storm scroll get your symmetry game up.

[slate sphinx]

So true

[livid sable]

Follow the xuan way

[slate sphinx]

XUAN WAYYYYYYY BABY

[storm scroll]

I have it already

[slate sphinx]

We gotta get gramps on the xuan grind

[bitter estuary]

symmetry is great but kabr's kit is increadibly slow alr so i'd rather use that on umeko because of her reload speed buff

[magic lichen]

someone take away this mans discord rights.

[misty marsh]

U said it's bad advice. It's not bad advice, symmetry handles all shinkas. Idk why ppl keep rebuking

[storm scroll]

I'm a Jaren main why would I use Kabr unless I have to?

[slate sphinx]

No we’re brothers

[remote grove]

Why use kabr when u can use helhest

[slate sphinx]

Jaren. You mean Jelly? You mean Jell-o? You mean worser impact than Xuan

[misty marsh]

But I'm done arguing w smb so closed minded

[remote grove]

The Xuan is strong with this one

[storm scroll]

It is bad advice because he's asking about how to get the free pulls for ikora. The person does not want to pull with his real currencies. Again, learn to read pls

And ikora is better than Kabr imo

[sharp talon]

kabr 2 >>>> ikora

[remote grove]

Why use kabr when u can use

[misty marsh]

There's three chars that use scouts? Three elements, three diff play styles

[slate sphinx]

[storm scroll]

You are not convincing me of anything

But go off

[slate sphinx]

Why use anyone else when you have

[storm scroll]

I didn't say he was bad

[misty marsh]

Lol a grampa thru and thru. No desire to try smth that might change ur perspective.

[storm scroll]

Real lol

[slate sphinx]

I better see you all on the leaderboard come reset

[remote grove]

Xuan can clear expanse 40 thats all I need

[storm scroll]

I have kabr and symmetry, but i see you don't read so I won't waste my time

Idk what ppl don't understand about me trying to help someone who asked a very specific question

[misty marsh]

Lol assuming I was on kabr w my clip is wild

[remote grove]

Im pretty sure there on the game grinding them draws now anyway xD mission accomplished

[storm scroll]

You get it. Im going to assume this other guy is trolling atp. Im just going to ignore them now

[remote grove]

We all just rage bait each other here tbh

[slate sphinx]

I’d never

[magic lichen]

i would never.

[storm scroll]

If i really respond the will say I'm egoing. But trying to educate me about the game is crazy lol.

[slate sphinx]

Did you know

[remote grove]

I know you wouldnt 🤣

[storm scroll]

I had to catch myself before I took that person seriously lol

[storm scroll]

The muffin man?

[slate sphinx]

I think Xuan can make some muffins

[sharp talon]

What if

[slate sphinx]

How do I get Xuan next to my name

[vale badge]

Hey guys quick question, is this banner worth maxing? Or better wait for next one?

[slate sphinx]

T6 ikora is a huge dps boost

[remote grove]

T6 ikora is strong

And fun to play

[vale badge]

Okayy thanks

[slate sphinx]

Yessssssir. Now you know the Wei

[remote grove]

Also jury is gunna be out on efrideet for awhile yet so we will see about maxing her

[vale badge]

Andd incase i cant max it now will it come back later?

[slate sphinx]

She’ll be available in the shop so no rush

[remote grove]

She will be permanent draw pool along with ning/kabr/jolder/tan so it will be harder to draw her straight up but still possible

[vale badge]

Is there any other hero available in the shop now so ik how much it costs etc?

[vale badge]

Ohh okay c:

[slate sphinx]

Their crystals cost 360? I think each. So getting one copy you’ll eventually t6

Or like he said just in the perm banner

[tulip parcel]

is buying the bp only way to get last word

[remote grove]

Bpass tokens yea, so black market tokens/silver/bpass

[prisma pond]

Wait i just glanced through the dev note am i reading this right they're making char shards farmable?

[rotund flame]

I think i messed up on getting the 1st catalyst for the truth. I spend the tokens on something else lol

[slate sphinx]

Truth is OP

[vale badge]

Oh is it the thing you can get once a month? I just checked the shop

[remote grove]

The crystals are earned from draws, you basically have to use the gacha for characters, which u can spend money on or leaves

[signal phoenix]

DRSA Major is a Good character?

[remote grove]

Until next week anyways*

[tulip parcel]

how do i buy it with black market tokens?

[remote grove]

Did u already complete the story? I think black market unlocks around team lvl 70

[tulip parcel]

yeah i played for a month straight after global, then quit

[remote grove]

Goto store, on top of screen theres a black market tab. You can buy 10 bpass tokens for 50k black market coins

[tulip parcel]

heard

[remote grove]

Welcome back btw

[tulip parcel]

heard that they getting rid of pinnacle and the gacha so i came back to see how it goes once that happens

[empty kettle]

The gacha is not fully gone btw

[tulip parcel]

figured

[bitter estuary]

Lvl90 cap seems interesting

[empty kettle]

Looks to be tied to the paragon system

[sharp talon]

so many character icons in that

[empty kettle]

Most likely slots for the gems

And the golden icons have symbols on them

[storm scroll]

It is

[rotund flame]

Oh no, getting diablo immortal flash backs 🗿

[empty kettle]

I wonder how they will explain the paragon system in lore with more details

[haughty dragon]

Looks like the sphere grid from final fantasy 10

[haughty dragon]

I was thinking the same thing lmao

I doubt itll be that bad

[sharp talon]

i impulsively upgraded my artifacts to 85 💀

[haughty dragon]

You lose them at the end of the season anyways lol

[bitter estuary]

Damn

[sharp talon]

artifacts are so insane

such a huge difference after i upgraded to 85

[empty kettle]

5 levels left until lvl 90

[storm scroll]

?¿

[haughty dragon]

Man this next update is going to be interesting, if it flops it'll be rough

[empty kettle]

The next update

[rotund flame]

Yup, the next update might determine if the game loses every player or if brings everyone that left back

[haughty dragon]

Yeah, in the last year I've probably only played about 6 months worth

[empty kettle]

The s4 reveal trailer will either make this update look great or terrible

[bleak pelican]

Heard the news, I may finally return

[haughty dragon]

You stopped too?

[bleak pelican]

I started working for Google, I barely had time to touch anything

Glad to know some folks remember me lol

[hoary prawn]

Nah content is not enough to bring people back

[haughty dragon]

Oh nice congrats

[hoary prawn]

It's like D2 releasing magic the gathering cosmetics

[haughty dragon]

That's was way out of left field lmaoo

Like why lol

[empty kettle]

Because he dislikes the game

[haughty dragon]

Who

[hoary prawn]

Although the pinnacle energy is removed, we are still limited by other things.

In the end, it's still NetEase.

[haughty dragon]

Fair, for me destiny is a litter shooter, this game is kore like a material gathering game lol

Not have exotic armor kinda kills the whole experience, sure guns are cool but it get very boring once you have them

[bitter estuary]

I think that the game is heading in the right direction, that being said, we need to wait until tommorow's teasers thats all

[haughty dragon]

Right, I'm curious what this paragon system is

We have it in Diablo but I don't think it can work in this game

[lapis swallow]

After 3 months, I purchased the Premium BP just to complete Arbalest. Now I need 3 more photons 🥀

[haughty dragon]

Rip

[bitter estuary]

Exactly why i cant really make further assumptions other than trying to interpret the very vague wording

[lapis swallow]

Also Truth requires 1 more copy but 7 more photons

One at a time. 🥀

[bitter estuary]

I feel like some of yall boutta grind the hell out of legendary campaign once s4 releases LMAO

[haughty dragon]

Lol I haven't even logged in for like 3 to 4 days

[lapis swallow]

That's basically the plan, I'm an OG Warframe grinder anyways, Destiny grinding is just balls compared to it

[bitter estuary]

Destiny rising grinding and its just deathsingers or chaos

[lapis swallow]

I just can't push myself to fund DRising until now that they have a proper update in S4

[bitter estuary]

[empty kettle]

Grinding for that one exotic engram in d1 just for master rahool to turn it blue

[haughty dragon]

I logged in to get ikora and any event that had a decent amount of lumia leaves

[bitter estuary]

Im only logging in to spend pinnacle

Optionally help new lights

[haughty dragon]

I don't even do that anymore unless I have to lol

[bitter estuary]

Since i have t6 hairkora, i might do calops overseer

[lapis swallow]

They need to allow players to buy new catalysts on the new weapons with these, not using those BP shards. I'm sitting a ton of this already.

[haughty dragon]

I have so many of these

Already have all the catalyst for all guns

[lapis swallow]

Or heck, put an exchange system for this to be traded with photons

[empty kettle]

Everything thing will change in s4 in exchange for your character to be weaker than normal

[sharp talon]

ikora is fun in this calamity, ning is boring, hh has to do everything

[lapis swallow]

HH might be the only evergreen meta unless they introduce another character that can supply power ammo and do heal+team DMG buffs

[sharp talon]

arbalest being able to transfer damage and one shot 😵‍💫

[true dock]

NEED HELP WITH CALAMITY OPS MASTER 1 and 2 SEND INVITE REQUEST to 1ightning

please and thank u

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/with-this-treasure-i-summon-megumi-mahoraga-gif-17411827983770801229

[bitter estuary]

So fun i decided to t6 her which is rare for a GACHA GAME i usually go c2/t2 at max but wow ikora balls is so fun

I love to make ball rain

Live laugh love wigkora

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/mahoraga-jjk-jjks2-jujutsu-kaisen-sukuna-gif-16426072969937482542

[bitter estuary]

The balls

https://tenor.com/view/pepsi-pepsiman-mascot-drink-gif-17590979235826885445

[sharp talon]

damn im happy with this

[bitter estuary]

What the balls thats quick 🔥

[sharp talon]

i keep messing up and ulting the hex guard on 39 as well instead of shinka

[haughty dragon]

I always got stuck on 39 and gave up lol

[sharp talon]

i think u can get 3:00 or very close

maybe even sub 3 minutes

[haughty dragon]

It took me 10 mins to get to 39 lol

[sharp talon]

how come? they are doing too much damage?

[haughty dragon]

If I remember correctly it was either I was getting basically 2 shot, time or not enough damage

One or all the above lmaooo

[sharp talon]

i think i struggled with dying as well until my damage output when through the roof

when i got god roll

[haughty dragon]

Could be my artifacts, I just slammed any 4 thumbs up in lol

[sharp talon]

this is what im using

[haughty dragon]

I'll check mine quick

[bitter estuary]

39 sucks we know

I wanna run it again for lolz

[sharp talon]

i will post my jaren 3:01 and ikora 3:09 time later ri think. i might try to improve both again, but i think they're unbeatable on emea rn

[sharp talon]

substat bad i think

[haughty dragon]

Probably

[sharp talon]

are u t6?

[haughty dragon]

Kept getting shafted on exotics

[haughty dragon]

God no lol

C1

[sharp talon]

ye i was wondering that because undaunted spiral is i think much better with t6 compared to bellicose blazar

[haughty dragon]

Didn't get as lucky as I did with kabr

[bitter estuary]

@sharp talon do you think void boost being on 1 arti will affect the run on 39 bc i only have it on slot 3

Slot 4 has super boost instead

[sharp talon]

its not optimal but it should work

[haughty dragon]

They should have kept the artifacts the same as it was in the alpha, was so much simpler lol

[sharp talon]

if its tier 5, it should be okish

[empty kettle]

They are changing it (again) hopefully the last one

[obtuse chasm]

W I’m running the same except I use belicose blazar

[haughty dragon]

Hopefully it'll be better this time

[obtuse chasm]

They’re not to bad and now that we won’t have pinnacle should be super easy to get what you want

[bitter estuary]

I want to use belicose so bad but im not getting enough damage 🥀

Its faster though

[obtuse chasm]

Really? I outdamage majority of ikoras I run into with it

[haughty dragon]

Fair, my issue is that it's so boring lol

[sharp talon]

most of ikoras damage is laser, theres something with belicose blazar where it doesnt count i think for some

[bitter estuary]

Are they t6 or

[obtuse chasm]

Definitely boring but just about every game is when it comes to min maxing

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah, and I am as well

[haughty dragon]

Idk I've been playing Diablo for 4 years now and I'm not bored with those dungeons

[bitter estuary]

Odd

[obtuse chasm]

Different game imo, still a grind, but more enjoyable. Just depends on what you normally like to play

[haughty dragon]

Probably because I basically kill everything instantly lol

Takes maybe a couple mins to run 1, maybe less

[obtuse chasm]

What are you running on your ikora currently?

[sharp talon]

recording with mumu is really nice, it doesnt capture audio outside of the emulator

[obtuse chasm]

I also run truth

[sharp talon]

blast radius is op af on ikora expanse 40

its much better than the blast damage upgrade

[obtuse chasm]

Yessir always fly through it, haven’t really tried to “speedrun” it yet tho

[obtuse chasm]

Need better rolls

[obtuse chasm]

I’ll have to give spiral a shot

[wide dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/drooling-anime-gif-20463839

Gimme them

[bitter estuary]

wait hold on

i meant this one

[raw glade]

Is season 4 set to buff any heroes?

[wild edge]

Helhest

[raw glade]

f-uk off lol

[dusty spire]

More so a balance of all heroes and weapons

New character progression system and weapon gear rework is a nice way of saying re balancing

[sharp talon]

or... they can make helhest stronger XD

[dusty spire]

This is the better angle as direct nerfs to hero in gacha don’t blend well

So an over “rework” of the system is a nice way of saying kindly we are rebalancing the mess we made.

What sorta makes this work is because the community have been asking for a wider range of hero usage.

[half sky]

They just mean more content for hh nothing new here 💪

[dusty spire]

I think she will still be viable, hopefully she has counter offers

[candid phoenix]

I mean technically if we’re buffing everyone via weapons buff then helhest is getting buffed

[half sky]

Nah she needs a good long sleep

[toxic edge]

Do we know how it will work?

[empty kettle]

Not yet, but the s4 reveal will tell us

[turbid linden]

Hello. Is there anything I can do to know which email/account was linked to my Destiny Rising Account?

[toxic edge]

That is?

[turbid linden]

I know my UUID from an old screenshot and was hoping I can recover the account

[prisma pond]

Email support.

[woeful oar]

in the new season how do you unlock new characters?

with the new unlock system

[empty kettle]

Either by pulling for them or grinding fragments for them

[wide dagger]

interesting

[dusty spire]

I’m guessing it’s just a generic style already used before in games

[toxic edge]

Do we know when reveal is?

[dusty spire]

Each area upgraded effect power

Could be everything the artifact offer in terms of tier traits
But designated to each hero.

And then artifact powering is more focused around perk improvements

So for example the tree would have things like HP increase

Weapon damage increase
Ability damage increase

The more bigger upgrades (the character helmet icons) might be more to do with relic abilities improvements that need clusters ect

Will these be converted to frags then?

Or you think crystal shop will still have the same things just crystals for all heroes

[storm scroll]

Finally abolishing power leaderboard lol

Hc sniper good. Arc piercing again naughty

[tight talon]

New patchnotes dropped?

[storm scroll]

Yep

[tight talon]

Damn

Don't tell me they are ending the season already

[oak temple]

Rip HH

Your time is up and your parole's begun.

[hasty ocean]

Ain't no way another precision Guardian bruh why not Impact

[lament lintel]

When does the new season with all the changes drop?

[tight talon]

Ikr, Should have been Sustained character but meh

[misty marsh]

arrrrrgh. my battery was too low so it stopped recording my symmetry gm solo

[tight talon]

Looks like they are going all the way back to Arc Precision

[misty marsh]

[tight talon]

Void Explosive next

[misty marsh]

Wei?

[tight talon]

Who?

[misty marsh]

Uhhh punchy punchy fusion rifle

I have enough trouble remembering people names, let alone game char names

[tight talon]

Xuan Wei? He is Arc Impact

Fusion/Shotgun i think

[lament lintel]

When do the changes drop?

[tight talon]

26th

[dusty spire]

O wah I need to check thisnouttt

[misty marsh]

Then who's gonna be the new arc prec

[tight talon]

Efrideet

New character, Handcannon/Sniper

[dusty spire]

Hand can I snipers lool

Well tan - 2 got a buff if the BP is a snipe

[wide dagger]

Ummm is she arc ?

[misty marsh]

Well. I'll gladly slap old prefect on...her? it? them?

[dusty spire]

Based on the current freemium / premium difference

[tight talon]

I hate them for making terminologies weird cause there's gonna be two segments of people who have yellow energy and blue energy and no one knows

[dusty spire]

Unless it’s all balanced out now lol

[wide dagger]

She is omg I thought it’s a solar element gonna be dis time

[tight talon]

No BP is D Rising Exclusive Handcannon

[tight talon]

New exotics added in Fremium are Cloudstrike, Thunderlord and Wardcliff Coil

[misty marsh]

It's weird bc it sounds like efreet/ifrit, a fire spirit

[tight talon]

I mean Efrideet used a solar Knife once despite being Arc Bladedancer, so everyone's thinking that she would be Solar due to some pattern for her being solar after arc and void

[cyan tide]

Frick, I spoke it into existence

I'm so sorry everyone

[tight talon]

[south agate]

Actually crazy. Now do Pinnacle

[tight talon]

That's fine, considering we need multiple copies of same artifacts to improve base attributes

[toxic edge]

Depending how easier it becomes, it might be a win

[cyan tide]

Most of my characters are using unique artifacts anyway, Maru is the only one that's taking an L

[toxic edge]

Same

Mostly bc only my Gwinn and Estala are built

[cyan tide]

Also it's crazy that they're skipping rapid fire again, I'm gonna crash out

[toxic edge]

I need to build Hel and Jar

[cyan tide]

Another season of Helhest

[sullen depot]

Helhest rising!!!

[toxic edge]

I need to build her yet
No good linears

[dusty spire]

It’s gone be based on who scales what character potential

[jagged osprey]

Why

[dusty spire]

It’s no longer about base power

[jagged osprey]

Why Arc precision

[tight talon]

Worse, next is probably Void Explosive Beekeeper again

[dusty spire]

The more you do with the character the stronger it gets

[toxic edge]

?

[south agate]

Yeah. The shared artifacts was mostly utility to bring weaker legendary characters up to power unless you dropped their godroll

[tight talon]

They added a whole new LGL for her

[dusty spire]

So that’s why the c ops is out

[tight talon]

2 btw

[dusty spire]

And the cordon is in

[toxic edge]

Wait, how its gonna work now?

[dusty spire]

It’s a mix between power scaling and time

[cyan tide]

Also don't forget to finish the cal ops/challenge mode seals before the season is over

[south agate]

Wait cal ops is being removed?

[tight talon]

Yea

[dusty spire]

So c ops ain’t just about unstuck but about progressing you hero that season to actually fulfill the power gates

[cyan tide]

Replaced by Operation cordon

[jagged osprey]

If Efrideet doesn’t powercreep Helhest, she’s gonna be another total skip

[dusty spire]

So HH is only strong if you been powering her up that season

[south agate]

FUUU another seal I need to finish gilding for within a week

[toxic edge]

My DR was having a seizure

[dusty spire]

Like any other hero you choose to scale that season

[toxic edge]

Wt

[empty kettle]

I'm scaling Wolf then

[toxic edge]

Why is my game having a seizure

[sullen depot]

damn what do you even use pinnacle energy on rn if most things are going away

[dusty spire]

I gave an idea about using modifiers for cordon for all heroes to scale up

[sullen depot]

time to hit up that morgans or legacy lol

[toxic edge]

Are mods going away?

[dusty spire]

Seems like I was sorta correct about the direction imo

[tight talon]

If character is the one on banners, they get better amplification stats than other characters.

[dusty spire]

It’s not exactly the same but it’s extremely close

[dusty spire]

As a general sale rule however if that person does not power that hero up throughout the season it will scale behind heroes that do get that attention

[south agate]

Same. I’m betting on Mythic wolf upgrade

[dusty spire]

So xuan could out do any hero if he’s put against a hero without much attention ect

[tight talon]

New mods are being added, Rare Adept, Expert Exotics to name some. But yeah foundry stat boosts are gone and new weapons have substats on their perks already

[dusty spire]

It’s all about progressing hero power above baseline every season

[south agate]

Xuan meta will make me god

[empty kettle]

Always bet on Wolf (The goat)

[cyan tide]

No, but they're changing some stuff and adding a new rarity

[dusty spire]

Stretching the hero potential as far as you can go for content that just scales in inflation

[toxic edge]

So shouldnt farm mods
What I was doing yesterday

[golden spade]

So what does that mean? So many changes, things are going over my head

[dusty spire]

Ok I will touch on my opinion on what to do with PE

[south agate]

Sounds like a LOT more buildcrafting, I LOVE that honestly

[tight talon]

You can't equip same exotic artifacts on every character

[south agate]

Makes sense, they all have different meta anyways except Maru and Hairkora

[dusty spire]

Based on what I think I see

PEr Seems like going for the conversion will get you rare upgrade hero items.

[toxic edge]

Ok, so I need a summary of how everything might work now

[dusty spire]

The trade off for using PEr now is that you get a higher pinnacle activity rate for that bundle sent to mail.

[golden spade]

If there is one person that can explain all the changes to us. Its you

So many changes!?!

[restive ruin]

they should straight up just be transparent about the conversion stuff lol

[dusty spire]

So using PE now gets you a better bundle reward and reserving it for conversion give you random rare hero upgrade items

[golden spade]

Oh!!! So need to farm unique artifacts for the others

[dusty spire]

I try for the community, and we got a good fair game of heads that got good forecasting, knowledge too that I’ve come to appreciate 👌🏾

[jagged osprey]

So maybe use pinnacle energy right now on farming exotic mats?

[dusty spire]

This is where I’m leaning

[golden spade]

But, that means you can't play multiple characters cause there is an incentive to main one character so they reach higher experience levels?

[dusty spire]

Unless you are drafting behind on current hero upgrades rn

[dusty spire]

Maybe not the whole pool

[jagged osprey]

@dusty spire what’s your prediction. Is Efrideet gonna creep Helhest?

[dusty spire]

But then we are not limited to activity

So that’s means time = progress

[restive ruin]

I mean cant you just unequip an exotic artifact on a character and then just equip it on another?

[dusty spire]

So in exchange for the amount of time willing to play is possibly the amount of heroes in your pool that has gained good level of potential increases for the season

[restive ruin]

or did I read that wrong

it says you can do it without any restrictions of costs

[dusty spire]

If your casual then yes you may only have one focused hero that does what it do

[golden spade]

That's insane but they didn't explain the conversion rates so it might backfire for those that saved pinnacle and then they don't get a good deal vs experience spent

[dusty spire]

Sounds like what ever direction you go they have some conversion system that will balance it out

It would back fire if they didn’t

[toxic edge]

Ok, so what should we be farming now to prepare

[dusty spire]

Everything we have in terms of progress will just be converted to what ever the reflective system is

[oak fern]

Should I use my pulls before update? What is the conversion rate since character will be free? Anyone has more info on that for season 4

[dusty spire]

No pulls is still a thing

LE charms was mentioned

Still pulling just not pure pulling. You do activities and based on maximum attendance you can still progress any hero based on what I think I’m receiving from the notes

Frags is progress over time pulling is imminent progression

[south agate]

Maybe for limited edition skins, and the silver store becomes less used

[dusty spire]

So you’ll still need LE to max faster

Unless mention of no banner

[storm scroll]

Looks like it's gamble whether or not to spend keys and extra pinnacle. You're getting rewarded either way

[south agate]

Future bundles of the likes of the Umeko Winter Bundle maybe become pulls?

[jagged osprey]

Is it a new progress system though? Because T6 will most likely stay

[storm scroll]

No not necessarily

[dusty spire]

It’s gonna stay imo

[south agate]

Didn’t they mention no character banner for the upcoming new character in the initial roadmap post?

[dusty spire]

No they did not mention removing pulling

[south agate]

Or in the twitter message about no draws next season?

[storm scroll]

I'm good either way. I spent a bunch and saved a bit

[dusty spire]

Just said removing pure pulling as a way to obtain heroes

So they are just introducing a new way to progress hero’s over time that you’ve acquired or not without having purely lean on pulls

[jagged osprey]

Yeah, pulling for extra copies is the new thing. First copy is free

[dusty spire]

But you still need LE if you want T6 sooner than progression over time

[south agate]

Honestly sounds like you will be able to obtain character crystals in a secondary way, or a material for it, but make the material decently abundant in pulls for faster character progression

[toxic edge]

What I should be farming rn?

[south agate]

Honestly a likeable idea, puts everyone on the same line for acclaim

No missing out on acclaim because you couldnt get the new character

[jagged osprey]

Aren’t we supposed to get a full season reveal tomorrow? On the 21st or is that the notice today

[dusty spire]

Stops players being gated from not having a copy to complete things

So no issue with triumphs so long you attend

[oak fern]

Ok thx, I hope they will be more transparent about this and the conversion of PE before the update rolls in

[stark forge]

the notice revealed everything

[south agate]

That too. The amount of players without helhest having to do precision arc Expanse with Kabr is harrowing

[dusty spire]

Your getting the copy to at bare minimum attend the season

Rest is up to you if you want T6 faster

[tight talon]

Now it's not necessary to do that either

[dusty spire]

Or just wait every season get frags and put it into that one hero your trying to max Ts for

[stark forge]

replace cal ops with cordon sounds good

[tight talon]

They have 4 separate loot pools for all weapon types starting next Expanse

[south agate]

With the end of season shards giving character of choice, I’m hoping it’s any character and not just the ones in the new system

[jagged osprey]

I had a friend who hoped cal ops would be removed

[south agate]

Also peak update, especially alongside the endless mode

[dusty spire]

Sounds like all heroes are up for grabs

[south agate]

I want my Gwynn and Helhest T6 man…

[dusty spire]

Just make sure you buy frags for the one you want to progress

This will be progress over time not over night

[south agate]

Finally gonna be able to get them T6.

[dusty spire]

Over time

[south agate]

Yes, but still, thank god

[dusty spire]

Im glad that the medium has been accepted

[empty kettle]

My Glorious king Wolf will finally shine

[south agate]

IF ofcourse it includes pre-update characters

[dusty spire]

It works for F2P while not offending service users who pay

It’s about balance here

Need the money but also need the F2P activity that those players bring to the table

[toxic edge]

What I should be farming rn?

[dusty spire]

So now we can retain players better by making the game more inclusive

Not just pure pulls or miss out

Whales will still whale day 1 for T6 that season lol

[stark forge]

farm more pinnacle

[cyan tide]

Should I use my challenge keys?

[sullen depot]

om current going thru my challenger keys

[toxic edge]

?

[dusty spire]

I’m waiting to see if we get some video on the 21st

[tight talon]

I still feel it's not solving the issues anyways, considering some small time whales complain about silver being too expensive for $ spent

[south agate]

Guys we’ve forgotten a big caviat with this update

[dusty spire]

It’s so vague rn

[dusty spire]

Well now they got a discount with the free frags too

[south agate]

All these changes are depicted as Ahamkare wishes… and wishing to an Ahamkara always comes with a cost…

[dusty spire]

No complaining should be around getting heroes now

Or atleast a copy

[jagged osprey]

Yeah, the cost is we are changing a bunch of systems and losing some materials

[dusty spire]

I hear that I know you just want for nothing

It’s a business not a charity

[empty kettle]

Someone will somehow complain about how hard it is to obtain

[storm scroll]

They are not whales then lol

[storm scroll]

Always will be whiners

[tight talon]

well rip them ig

[dusty spire]

If it gets to much like that and applies way to much pressure to run the game I’d just wait until we here EOS

[stark forge]

real whales will complain theres nothing to buy

[tight talon]

Watching Netease get sued for misinformation

[empty kettle]

Pretty understandable

[storm scroll]

Looks like you get rewarded either way so make a choice. It's a gamble on purpose prob lol

[south agate]

Real Whales will complain that f2p players can now get their beloved goth mommy

[elder wing]

Can’t make em all happy… it is what it is

[stark forge]

well who doesnt want easier time to get attal gold medal

[empty kettle]

This new update might be the new forsaken

[elder wing]

Cannot understand why people are complaining? Like there’s always something

[storm scroll]

I'm hype for that. That was my jam. Right up my alley. Scaling over speedruns hopefully

[elder wing]

We can’t just be happy and try enjoy whats coming

[south agate]

Also where are you guys reading the artifact system changes? I can’t find an article on it on the website

[storm scroll]

Prob not because then f2p will miss out on something else

[stark forge]

doomposting is in my soul

[storm scroll]

Whales will always be ahead.

[south agate]

Eh Helhest prob gonna get powercrepped anyways lol

[stark forge]

on the notice

[tight talon]

Companies earn a dollar, f2p waste their time therefore i doompost in all my free time

[south agate]

Honestly whales can probably buy the custom character shards directly with silver. That’s probably how they’ll still make money on characters

[storm scroll]

That's fine. They'll still have it maxed first whatever that unit may be.

[south agate]

Exactly. Wouldn’t be an issue imo either

[elder wing]

The rest of the T is still with silver or LE… don’t see the problem + we might see new cosmetics and all as well

[storm scroll]

Helhest won't be disappearing either way. She makes ammo, heals, and gives a damage boost.

[bitter estuary]

as i said, i assume they'll have their own "prime access" and have the monetization similar or even 1:1 to dna

[south agate]

Yeah but I mean it wouldn’t surprise me if they sell the custom character choice shards for silver too. We haven’t had any confirmation on what happens to banners right?

[bitter estuary]

i mean, tbh d:r is realistically only competing with warframe now

[storm scroll]

I think it's fair

[bitter estuary]

tower of fantasy? oh the devs have shifted focus on nte

duet night abyss? nearing eos

[elder wing]

Yupp definitely. That why I said there’s no reason for the whales to be dissatisfied

[south agate]

Even before all these changes DR was one of the most player friendly gachas compared to a lot of others

[dusty spire]

The more you play the more you complete the stronger you get

The stronger you get the more exposure to higher rewards

Attendance and play time is key

[elder wing]

It’ll be little be of everything… you can still whale and grind at the same time… the way I see it it’s a win win

[storm scroll]

F2p sound be rewarded for grinding, but they shouldn't expect to be immediately competitive

[south agate]

Like look at the subtle predatory nature of Genshin Impact, that game is choked full of predatory monetization systems, hidden behind a smokescreen of cute characters and animals

[south agate]

They shouldnt feel competitive before halfway through the act imo

[storm scroll]

Simply playing the game is good for health of game but supporters actually keep the game alive

[dusty spire]

Yes just a better progress over time for F2P but they won’t par with spenders

If I’m spending I’m clearing T6 faster than a F2P grinding 24hrs non stop

[storm scroll]

Looks like the end of season lol. Unless they just have a good unit built already

[dusty spire]

It won’t happen if they think that’s the model

Your not getting T6 in one season for playing heavily

[storm scroll]

Yep. Efficiency too

[dusty spire]

Maybe over 6 months you’ll get a max T6

[toxic socket]

When we can buy the shards in the Shop, why the LE Charms? Those are the boats right?

[dusty spire]

40 frags every month something like that

[toxic socket]

I think 40 frags per season

[dusty spire]

Something down those lines

[storm scroll]

Yes. If you whale and grind you should be above both f2p grinders and lazy whales. I'm up for that

[south agate]

Anything to dethrone lazy whales

[dusty spire]

The Kabr and Hikora event was a test to see if the free hero would be received well

[toxic socket]

But whats the point of the Draw LE Charms when you can Cash the character ditectly to t6

[south agate]

So satisfying to have a better built T2 character than a whale’s T6, and getting MVP in raids lol

[dusty spire]

Incentive to play

Have a chance

[toxic socket]

But for whales they dont need the Charms anymore

[south agate]

True whales never needed them, make sure to remember that

[empty kettle]

Just like Tony stark, f2p players can get creative with limited resources

[bitter estuary]

the thing about live service on mobile is that they made it purposely easy for whales to just do nothing and somehow can nuke all endgame content

[dusty spire]

With these change probably around 200 boats to max a hero

[mossy holly]

Netease developed a gacha begone system

[storm scroll]

And power rankings are dead lol.

[bitter estuary]

d:r is trying to stay away from it and i appreciate that

[south agate]

Indeedge

[toxic socket]

Yeah i get that but i think 150$ for 60 pulls will be more expensive then getting 40 fragts in the Shop. I have a Feeling they will cost 5-6k per 40fragts

[storm scroll]

That won't be happening much. But go off

[bitter estuary]

its nothing when most people flex at you with calops/expanse rankings which "where it matters the most"

[dusty spire]

Wonder if these convert, no mention of crystal removal too

Surely they would mention crystal removal from shop

[toxic socket]

Calops is away now. The Last circle is currently in.

[dusty spire]

So yeah same concept it’s just giving us a free copy every season

[toxic socket]

From now on they use Cordon as the new cal ops Ressource winning

[dusty spire]

Don’t over complicate it

[dusty spire]

Yes power that hero get as far as you can with a team

[obtuse magnet]

Hello

I hope everyone is doing well 😌

Do we know the element of the next character coming up? (Just so we can start farming in advance 👀)

Thanks 🙂

[dusty spire]

Upgrade you emblem reap rewards for maxing

[empty kettle]

Arc

[toxic socket]

Yes its ark Piercing

[dusty spire]

Not a fan of another double pierce

[toxic socket]

Fruits are also going away 😅

[dusty spire]

Get my free copy and the end of season frag

[empty kettle]

Good riddance

[south agate]

Nah they wont. They provide character duplicates

[dusty spire]

Skip for me

I’ll take the free T1

Gonna wait for the next hero release

[south agate]

THANK bleeping GOD

[storm scroll]

This is the piercing I've been waiting for. Hand cannon sniper. Purposely did not invest in any of the others though I have them

[dusty spire]

Probably do another 60 pulls to get the T2 and wait for new banner

[south agate]

WORST MATERIAL EVER

[dusty spire]

I can still be titan focus but with new system I can develop other hero tiers over time

So basically we get a hero select every season….

[elder wing]

Another precision instead of Rapid hmm

[dusty spire]

I’m waiting this is a skip

[elder wing]

I wonder how New banner would perform with hh around

[toxic socket]

If the abitilies are cool and the new exotic Hand Canon im fine

[golden spade]

So use the fruits we have now to power up the characters we like?

[dusty spire]

Kabr Umeko tan 2 HH now this

And jaren tbf

Lots of pierces

[stark forge]

just keep whatever resources wait for it to be converted in ss4

[elder wing]

They skipped on rapid for ages now… are they saving cayde for act2 lol

[dusty spire]

lol imagine we have expanse that offer sustained looool

That’s rude loool

I get it but that’s rude

[elder wing]

I just hope expanse isn’t time based but stages instead

[toxic socket]

Hopefully we get a good Exchange for fruits, cause i have like 500 in my inventory which i cant use cause every character is maxed in the circle Power Up Menu

[dusty spire]

It’s more so as far as your hero can go

You keep powering it up it will scale further into expanse

You wanna power up as much to get as far into expanse as possible that’s the flex

But really it only shows how much you’ve been playing that season lol

No life :/ status

Unless we have a general ceiling

[golden spade]

One thing is clear and that is Netease will make radical changes to keep us engaged and playing! Happy days!

[elder wing]

Yeah fair… still wonder how a new banner will out perform hh. It has to be the new bp weapon lol I don’t see it otherwise

[golden spade]

I liked cordon, but it's scoring was also time based where u had to kill the boss in a certain time

[stark forge]

they will put salvo in efrideet im sure

[golden spade]

The BP is a hand cannon metntioned in the notes too

[south agate]

I cant find the notice article for some reason, anybody got a link to it?

[golden spade]

Also they mentioned the sniper cloud strike and lmg thunderloard

[stark forge]

its in the game

[elder wing]

Ohh definitely.. she has to get some crazy buff with those abilities

[golden spade]

The exotics are mentioned at the end

[south agate]

Ooh the ingame one

[stark forge]

either salvo meta or 1 shot boss runner

[elder wing]

That hand cannon better be Op af lol

[south agate]

Damn dont got it installed on my phone lol

[golden spade]

Cloud strike was a sniper in D2, when u get a headshot it kills enemies close to the enemy u shot

[elder wing]

Whaaat????

[south agate]

It shoots down a lightning bolt with high AOE damage

[golden spade]

Hh is still strong, healing and creating heavy for team

[dusty spire]

Not to far off the idea of progressing power to scale cordon

[south agate]

Good pvp weapon, could take down entire Trials teams

[dusty spire]

I’m not to far off neteas I think lol

[golden spade]

Yes, u said it in a better way 😂

[south agate]

Single headshot could kill an entire Trials team of 3 if they were close enough together

[dusty spire]

Come on definitely not far off lol

Even if my feed back goes to ai lol

[storm scroll]

That was not reliant on runners and unstuck though. Especially the higher it went. I played that a lot and we made it the furthest

[elder wing]

Wait are they getting rid of ops for sure??

[storm scroll]

Yes

[sullen depot]

yeah cordon replacing ops

[dusty spire]

Yes

Cordon with the beta test

It’s a combination of both

[storm scroll]

And damage boost

[dusty spire]

Power scale plus time

At the later stages your going against the time

[golden spade]

I liked cordon better. Dont like the unstuck mechanic at all even though i use it for calmity

[dusty spire]

Otherwise your not getting S

[storm scroll]

It does it of consecutive crits to w cat

[golden spade]

Yes, ure right

[jagged osprey]

If cloudstrike follows the same catalyst upgrades as D2, it might, will powercreep Royal Contravene

[dusty spire]

Earlier stages unstuck is used but when the enemies start to get inflated it really starts to become more clear focused

Combo wombos needed

Which is basically draining everything on a particular enemy lol

I’d like to see healing effects needed more

[elder wing]

So the real question is why people going to pull for Efrideet when Hh just outshines her? It has to be something

[dusty spire]

As a support function for later levels so support really has its place

[golden spade]

So hh to provide heavy and dmg boost will still be meta. Good for me 😂

[dusty spire]

Sustain is needed not just heavy ammo and damage

I want the run to fail because we had not enough sustain

[elder wing]

Im expecting char trailer tomorrow around this time

[dusty spire]

Team got wipe for not playing smart and or skillfull

[south agate]

Could someone be so kind as to maaaaaybe send me a couple of ss’s of the ingame notice? Can’t get on because I’m in class at college lol

Would appreciate it a TON!

[golden spade]

Oh! Really?? I didn't notice this mechanic when i played cordon. It was just for fun when i played. Reached lvl 12 or something

[south agate]

If only they actually publicized the notice in discord or on the website

[bitter estuary]

they added the gun where you cant type it out here

[golden spade]

Ray you legend

[bitter estuary]

the cury mury 🔥

[golden spade]

I was taking pics too but u beat me to it

[bitter estuary]

finally void lgl

[dusty spire]

Just sent it all directly lol :/

[weak ginkgo]

The longest patch notes I've seen lol

[dusty spire]

@weak ginkgo your too fast :/

[dusty spire]

Trying to fine comb through it, got a headache lol

[golden spade]

That's why he's on the overseer leaderboards 😂

[dusty spire]

Big patch notes is a good thing I guess lol

[south agate]

LEGEND

[weak ginkgo]

Got ya broski

[golden spade]

Take notes on the DR notes forget class now 😂

[weak ginkgo]

Going for a coffee after all that

[south agate]

Legit the most boring class I have. I hate Applied Electrical Physics

[dusty spire]

Think I’ll joint 👌🏾

[south agate]

Damn that notice is massive

[jagged osprey]

Hey, that new battlepass exotic is a reskin I just realized lmao

[dusty spire]

So who’s T6ing new banner hero?

[jagged osprey]

It’s a reskin of gambit HC Trust

[exotic sinew]

Efrideet is precision?

[elder wing]

Dmn lol you came out nowhere 🤣

[dusty spire]

Anyone interested in Efrideet?

[exotic sinew]

so no rapid fire… I may as well actually not play until precision is gone

[elder wing]

I think that dude doesn’t sleep lol

[dusty spire]

You don’t have to play precision Efrideet

[exotic sinew]

I’m so sick and tired of precision is all

[dusty spire]

She’s an option plus expanse isn’t just banner focused now

You can focus on who you like every season

[exotic sinew]

Yeah but the last rapid fire unit we got was Estela

I want a new rapid fire unit

[dusty spire]

See it as an opportunity to get free access like hikora and Kabr 2.0 and skip

Not like your missing out now

Then when the hero you want comes around then go in and get max potential

[jagged osprey]

We deserve rapid fire solar for Estella, it’s an ahamkara season!

[elder wing]

Apart from the Piercing Char the rest of the patch notes are sick! Like actually crazy. Soo exiting

[dusty spire]

But yeah this is a skip for me

[exotic sinew]

I can’t see it that way. It’s stupid as f and they’re not thinking about how bland it feels to have back to back precisions + spreads and no rapids

[dusty spire]

Ima enjoy this season because we can play all heroes

I don’t have to focus around a banner hero I don’t want

[exotic sinew]

They have every opportunity to knock this update out of the park with their changes for returning players and veteran players but if they bring a crappy unit in that no one wants to play, then those changes are void

[bitter estuary]

will be trying content with attal idk balls

[dusty spire]

But now your other units like Gwynn ect might be viable

Because now you can overclock performance by using them a lot

So you get to play heroes now that weren’t quite meta before

[elder wing]

It won’t matter as the S4 won’t be just around a select unit or current banner! You can play with whatever you like

[exotic sinew]

I don’t care about any of the older units. I’m absolutely tired of them is my point

I want a new rapid, none of the older units appeal to me as i have all of them maxed out

[bitter estuary]

true

it feels like wolf has been sidelined in content for whatever reason

[south agate]

These weapon names are killing me, Jazibaba

[exotic sinew]

All the changes may be cool and all, removing calamity overall was stupid to me. There’s still triumphs for it and a lot of players just got hit with a “too bad” on those

[toxic socket]

How they are chaning the black market when you dont need pinnacles to get Ressources?

[exotic sinew]

Cordon was boring. We already know they didn’t do what we wanted them to do with it

[storm scroll]

Me

[south agate]

Nahh I’m grinding tf outta gilding the title now. No other activity for the next week ig

[exotic sinew]

Every 2 stages be a different strike - one of the buffs being a realm of the 9 buff so it’s actually fun and chaotic to play(imagine everyone having fletched arrows or ability comets) - that’s what cordon could’ve been

[storm scroll]

There will still be possibility of weapon events, i.e partridge, jade

[exotic sinew]

Go mine those rocks

[dusty spire]

Resourced up lumied up bp tokens ready to go?

[jagged osprey]

Let next character be solar rapid PLEASE

[stark forge]

best artifact update ever, removing elemental lock

[dusty spire]

I want Saladin lol

[exotic sinew]

Anyway I said my piece. I truly despise precision units now. If Efrideet had a Tracer Rifle with Sniper I’d use her, but she’s just going to be a combo of HH and Jaren. I have my hopes up for the changes as I said, I just think they flopped majorly on the unit they brought out

[storm scroll]

Yeah but characters that are naturally stronger will get even stronger lol. Cope though lol

[jagged osprey]

@exotic sinew I completely agree. It’s more of another kick to the nuts after Kabr

[dusty spire]

Nah your good she will always be viable so long you build her during the seasons you want to use her in

[storm scroll]

Good thing they didn't consult you first lol

[dusty spire]

We all know who’s gonna go all in on xuan for S4

[bitter estuary]

so far (outside kabr/ikora)
impact -> rapid fire -> piercing -> spread -> impact -> piercing (efrideet)

it should been rapid fire but i assume they've swapped it

[dusty spire]

He’s probably gonna show us a few tricks or two 😬

[exotic sinew]

You think completely removing an endgame event instead of just keeping it around and adding another one to the rotation is better? I guess you want less content

[storm scroll]

Of course. I also have this thing called money

[jagged osprey]

With cloudstrike though, I could see Efrideet out DPS’ Helhest

[sullen depot]

my guess is the reason its arc piercing is because CN server had Jaren/Ikora2.0 released back to back. so arc was the next thing. now we are all aligned

[exotic sinew]

They SHOULD consult me, the ideas I’ve had have been welcomed by a lot of upvotes anytime I put them in the suggestions and I’ve been told my ideas would be too fun for them to do, but oh well

[storm scroll]

I don't think you understand what I mean lol

[finite gazelle]

Netease ain't consulting a random mf in the discord

[storm scroll]

Lol

[stark forge]

rapid shinka once again a myth in cordon kekw

[exotic sinew]

Gramps is a ragebaiter, pay him no attention

[storm scroll]

Especially if they're both in the damage boost lol

[dusty spire]

She’s offensive

[sullen depot]

damn yall already arguing. the season is 90 days. who is to say they wont switch up the shinkas in cordon as well

[storm scroll]

Relax. Lol

[dusty spire]

So naturally she should have offensive style output

[jagged osprey]

Yup. At least Ikora T6 will be fun this season

[dusty spire]

That should make her a better damage dealer than HH

[storm scroll]

You can always go develop a game yourself

[exotic sinew]

Grandpa go back to your reclining chair and boot up pong

[stark forge]

wont stop them adding dmg buff to efrideet

[dusty spire]

At end game HH will be support imo

Like later cordon rounds

[storm scroll]

Are you responding to me?

[jagged osprey]

I do think though, cloudstrike following D2 upgrades will be nuts

[exotic sinew]

She already is. Ikora T6 outdamages her T6

[storm scroll]

As it should be

[dusty spire]

She will be healer utility

[dusty spire]

Exactly

[exotic sinew]

T0-T4 HH was always a support true and true

[dusty spire]

I think later cordon will show each hero style

[obtuse magnet]

Thanks

[jagged osprey]

D2 had Triple tap, lightning on 3rd hit, lightning on kill

That means if they give it a bunch of ammo, you can sustain it for longer

[storm scroll]

Some units die to easily in late rounds and you still have to do good damage so idk

[dusty spire]

I’ve noticed each element pool has like a comp special

Solar is scorch team power
Arc is chain lightning

Not sure what void is

But seems like when you match a pure elemental team that special stuff blends together

[exotic sinew]

Void has some debuff that makes them take more dmg

Susceptibility type

[dusty spire]

solar team = more scorch CC
arc team = chain lighting CC

Oh so void is = debuff ?

More direct damage?

[exotic sinew]

Solar would be sustained damage, Arc would be AoE damage, Void would be direct dmg

[storm scroll]

Umeko 8s the only void debuffer

[dusty spire]

It’s usually some perk they get in mastery

[dusty spire]

Nah what I’m explaining is the mastery effects or something they all have in the same elemental catagrog

[exotic sinew]

Well I believe there’s Jolder who can make the enemy deal less damage

Not every solar unit has Scorch, Jaren doesn’t

[dusty spire]

All arc seems to do chained lightning

I’ve seen HH do it
Rossi
Ning
Xuan
Kabr

Same for scorch comps

[exotic sinew]

It’s in their weapon mastery or skills, yes, they don’t have to have them

[dusty spire]

Void seems like overshield imo

[exotic sinew]

Umeko doesn’t make them naturally

[dusty spire]

Your right so maybe that’s not it

But you get where I’m going with this right?

[exotic sinew]

Yup

Each element CAN all have a special effect, we won’t see a void unit have chain lightning in their weapon mastery

[dusty spire]

What could it be?

Surely we have something I just cannot tell lol

[exotic sinew]

The can is big for a reason, it’s optional

[naive ingot]

I'll be lying if I say the new changes haven't confused me

[sullen depot]

well its possible they migh end up turning void to the debuff units for future releases?

[dusty spire]

It’s like an extra layer for having a pure comp synergistic

Maru for overshield
Jold overshield
Hikora overshield

Very overshield with void comps

Anyone else in void that procs overshield?

[sullen depot]

void can just be overshield, weaken and suppression units basically

[dusty spire]

I mean Umeko with the healing set actually provides good overshield too no?

[astral bear]

Everything Sounds good, but Not bring able to Equip the Same artifact on multiple characters Stinks

[sullen depot]

yuh but thats pretty much similar to slapping healing set on helhest or tan

[dusty spire]

Fair

[storm scroll]

This is not my idea lol
I dont agree with what was said about solar or void

[dusty spire]

Art part is confusing for me

[sullen depot]

just gotta wait 6 more days and we all find out

this is basically a whole reset

[dusty spire]

:/ and then have to go through making careful decisions 😩🫣

Meh gonna feel like a job on release

[sullen depot]

haha well its a marathon not a sprint

[exotic sinew]

Marathon to a rapid unit getting released, yeah

[dusty spire]

This is so sound and fair

[exotic sinew]

Sprint for precision units it seems

[dusty spire]

Well I’m sorta glad we have the information now, kinda know what we are getting

[storm scroll]

Sounds like an offensive/defensive conversation

[dusty spire]

I’m sure through out the next coming days the community will come with some good suggestions to what’s being read.

[sullen depot]

eh like i said. CN server just had Jaren and Ikora 2.0 back to back so the next thing was arc and then yeah they decided to go with precision. with S4 all servers both global and CN are all lined up

[exotic sinew]

Should’ve just done rapid

Then precision then impact then spread

[sullen depot]

that i agree

[dusty spire]

Hand cannon sniper

[exotic sinew]

Tracer Rifle Sniper even would’ve been sick

[storm scroll]

I mean I'm just waiting for a nightstalker anyway

[dusty spire]

Wild

[sullen depot]

sameeeeeee. i love me soem nightstalker playstyle

[exotic sinew]

Hand Cannon Sniper is just putting Jaren and HH together, again that’s the vibe I get

[dusty spire]

So what’s the lumie hoard looking like people?
Show your savings!
Two event banners to save on did you save?

[storm scroll]

Let us enjoy, I don't care if you are happy or not lmao

[sullen depot]

they might bring bring trace rifle in anniversary update maybe. From their previous blogs they talked about big expansions every 6 months. so every two seasons since a season is 90days/3months

[storm scroll]

I feel like ppl will hate if I show it lol

[jagged osprey]

42100 leaves here

[dusty spire]

Do it so what

[storm scroll]

And I'm here to tell you that many ppl wasted leaves on the last 2 characters lol

[dusty spire]

You hoarded uno what type of patience it takes to do that

I’m a hoarder myself lol

[storm scroll]

I'm already on the most wanted for being elitist

[prime lichen]

them some beefy patch notes

[dusty spire]

I skip so I hoard lots I only focus pill T6 I want

Now I get to have free copies of all these over time 😬

[storm scroll]

I hoarded
But i also knew some kind of creep was coming. Half the stuff I hoarded is getting deleted and turned into something else too

[storm scroll]

I have all the medals and still hoarded a bit. I would expect you to have many more leaves than me though

[storm scroll]

That's how f2ps should be doing but they have fomo and build lackluster units lol

[rotund raptor]

So efrided uses hc?

[dusty spire]

I had more but I needed to get a hero maxed

[storm scroll]

If be upset if that was not the case tbh

[storm scroll]

Hc, sniper

[opaque torrent]

Ctrl f. No pvp word. Uninstall

Crucible is such a core element why ...

[prime lichen]

clearly they wanted to focus more on pve , lol

[rotund raptor]

Do u think tlw will be gkod on her

[stark forge]

crimson will be meta

[rotund raptor]

Ohh

[sullen depot]

i think her core exotic weapon will end up being cloudstrike sniper, but will have to see

[robust sequoia]

The new artifact skill swap sounds like a scary gamble!! 😱

[cyan tide]

Heavies tend to be better for the exotic slot so I can see her preferring cloudstrike

[rotund raptor]

Ks cloudstieke a new exotic?

Pls tell me its not bp

[sullen depot]

raid weapon

[cyan tide]

If the HC isn't that great even better for me, I need to max out Truth and TLW

[wide dagger]

[rotund raptor]

Ohhh i thought it was bp for a moment

[gritty rune]

Because it’s a mobile game and PvP on mobile sucks

So people don’t want to PvP and there’s no demand for it

[stark forge]

its not pvp on mobile sucks, the incentive to play pvp is none

[lapis swallow]

Yep, Operation Cordon will become Operation Helhest, no more Cal Ops

Plus there's no more leaderboards

[rotund raptor]

Cordon si so difficult

[lapis swallow]

Poor whales 🤣

[storm scroll]

It will probably be serviceable at the very least. Prob is they are going to make this new battle pass hc more synergistic AND we are getting cloudstrike on top of that for her heavy

[storm scroll]

No more power leaderboards is all I saw

[lapis swallow]

On the bright side, Expanse isn't locked behind 2 weapon types anymore.

[storm scroll]

Big diff

[rotund raptor]

Yh since the sniper is a raid weapo. Ill go for that . The bp i cant spend lol

[stark forge]

oh well time to scoop up some s4 engrams from barter

[storm scroll]

I always prioritize the heavy slot outside of Jaren and Maru as far as exotics to do first

[lapis swallow]

Wrong translations but basically the gist, lots of items will be replaced

[jagged osprey]

Excited for the new Expanse tbh

[rotund flame]

Dang new character is double precision, looks like helhest is still going to be good for a another patch lol

[magic lichen]

But I need to flex rank 1 xuan

[jagged osprey]

I was rank 2 Estela in Canada. I’ll be sad to lose that. I was almost rank 1

[cyan tide]

Next character pls be rapid fire I'm begging

[storm scroll]

See ya!

[lapis swallow]

Unless there's no Helhest 2.0, she's going to stay for a loooong time as top DPS/support

[cyan tide]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been84years-titanic-rose-dawson-gif-5372593

[jagged osprey]

I want Efrideet to powercreep smellfest so bad

[cyan tide]

She won't, different roles

[storm scroll]

You have one week lol. Enjoy
Tbf I always hated that leaderboard. Pointless and gives people who would never have #1 in anything else clout they dont deserve lol

[rotund raptor]

Since we getting free char hh ill pour all the leaves i have lol

[rotund flame]

Nope another precision arc or spread void character lol

[magic lichen]

All the none having HH players always mad lol

[lapis swallow]

Eh don't spend leaves, there's no mention they're removing it

[jagged osprey]

I have HH t2 I just wish I had her T5-6 lmao

[rotund raptor]

That all i have lol i dont have boats

[magic lichen]

Lol they do be bad. I have CC clout. That’s all I need haha

[sullen depot]

keep ur leaves lol

[empty kettle]

Don't do that

[dusty spire]

Well over a few seasons this may be possible now

[lapis swallow]

No truer words: Helhest Rising forever

[rotund raptor]

Thats all i have done so far using leaves and grind again

[storm scroll]

Yes. But dont count that unit out guarantee some big damage will be coming from efrideet and she can just stand in Helhests buff

[dusty spire]

In b4 attal power up with hand cannon

[rotund raptor]

Idm hkw u guys get boats

[lapis swallow]

Why would anyone pick up a character they miss with the new shards system when they can spend their entire time grinding for T6 Helhest 🤣

[elder wing]

Well the new banner could be sick will see

[dusty spire]

If it’s wild and works with that arc missile

[empty kettle]

Lumia store

[rotund raptor]

Yh but isnt it the same as using the lumia directly?

[dusty spire]

She will definitely be cool to play

[jagged osprey]

Someone told me I should have went all in on HH, I said naw I’ll stop at T2. Boy was I the idiot

[rotund flame]

If she's labeled as a offensive character she's need to do similar or better damage than helhest, otherwise no reason to pull copies of her if you already have helhest

[dusty spire]

Do Ning will have to build into damage since he’s not just about running anymore

[candid phoenix]

Holy patch notes

[lapis swallow]

The only 2 characters worth on T6 is Helhest and Hairkora 🥀

[rotund raptor]

I got t6 kora t6 hh needed

[dusty spire]

I believe this will be the case when we reacher harder difficulty levels

She will scale more heal and utility support

[stark forge]

but like nothing else stronger for ning to build than current meta

[dusty spire]

While offensive should scale more damage numbers both are useful

Just HH needs to stay in support lane

Otherwise label her offensive and get it done

[sullen depot]

i wonder if Efrideet super will be gathering storm 👀

[dusty spire]

That’s all done now, co ops has ended

[lapis swallow]

Helhest is basically built for long-term and scaling difficulty modes when her heals and damage buffs with unli power ammo supply over any support in the game.

[rotund flame]

Same, I regret not going all in on helhest when she came out. Feels like when Bitcoin first came out and i didn't invest for the future lol

[dusty spire]

The meta is how much you’ve build the hero over clocked

And are you skilled enough to climb difficult ladder

Ning will go back into nimble damage imo

[south agate]

Finally read all of it and gahdamn, this is gonna become a new game

[storm scroll]

Facts. My scenario is #1
Whales don't care.
#2 there are 3 to 6 spots on s fireteam

[empty kettle]

Wolf's time to shine

[dusty spire]

Seems like a lot to do in game come next week 😬

[lapis swallow]

At least artifacts now are not element locked

[jagged osprey]

If Efrideet outperforms smellhest the comp will now be HH, Deet and Ikora

[storm scroll]

If the support piercing is strong and even the defense one is decent. Idk what would lead a person to think the offensive sniper will be weak lol

[south agate]

I feel like the capabilities will be very much dependant on the BP exotic

[rotund flame]

Wait really? That's nice at least. Always hated getting a random good piece but it's the wrong element

[jagged osprey]

So uhh, what rolls am I farming on current mythic snipers?

[magic lichen]

Let them bask in their own stupidity.

[rotund raptor]

Guys is it better to buy boeats with the leaves ore use the leaves directly

[elder wing]

Exaggerating my thoughts! If you put efrideet up there as she’s offense she might out damage hh.. we have no idea what type of abilities she has

[lapis swallow]

They better be upgrading every old Exotic released in the game to full upgrades or else those guns are vaulted. We're now using rarity system/star system for guns, the higher the star rank, the better the stats.

Those are randomly dropped by grinding

[toxic socket]

Lets wait for edrideet, maybe she got better abilites and Playstyle as HH.

[dusty spire]

Yes weapons imo will scale better now

[storm scroll]

She really just had to be better than everyone else lol. She will almost certainly pair well with Helhest. And allow helhest to just use arby for more versatility

[dusty spire]

Notch down the difference between freemium and premium

[gritty rune]

Is it just me or does the new gun development system sounds like it didn’t really change much but just adds more RNG?

[storm scroll]

More grind lol.

[dusty spire]

I don’t mind fine tuning

[lapis swallow]

You're grinding more but no more convoluted upgrading

[elder wing]

One of the big reasons they releasing the skill three thing is for that whole reason I guess! As you can’t put hh in offensive part of the three but you can do ning or efrideet… so you never know

[gritty rune]

Like, so you get stars instead of enhancement levels, you now need to get the perk you want, and then get the perk at max level on another gun to transfer to the gun you want to develop?

[storm scroll]

If it is then watch out

[lapis swallow]

Idk what they will replace on Exotic nodes and mod system on Mythics

[dusty spire]

Yup it’s their way of balancing heroes