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[thorny frost]

So I came from one Gacha that the developers, due to licensing, couldn’t make a pc port… so I actually expect that from non IP holders I guess (actually 2, Global X Dive and POC).

[prisma pond]

Whenever i hear someone mention tang tang

[thorny frost]

Training montage ensues

[prisma pond]

Ah i see. But idk i just never liked running games in an emulator its just annoying. DR is the only exception, i still dont like it tho :x

[thorny frost]

Dang nab it now I just had a Fate/Stay flash back XD

[empty kettle]

Wolf learns how to wield his light without his relic

[thorny frost]

I have been stuck as a mobile gamer for a bit due to life stuff. But I can understand that, it was amusing with X Dive as the publisher had global rights to put it out on phone, but then the developers decided to throw it on Steam like 2 years after their release, which caused major confusion as it ran on TW servers.

POC no clue the details there, but I just feel Capcom won’t want it on PC incase they ever release a new game after forever.

[prisma pond]

A lot of gatchas games are making the move to steam it seems like just last month several of them came to steam like pgr

Maybe cause of steam deck and a larger audience

[thorny frost]

The larger audience is big part of it. I don’t think I know a PC Gamer who doesn’t use Steam.

[prisma pond]

True dat

[icy mist]

got no weekly keys?

[sharp talon]

damn na had the same bug last week 💀

[empty kettle]

They are definitely changing somethings

[icy mist]

well this sucks, no mods this week 😂

[empty kettle]

Can't wait to see what they will reveal on the 21st

[empty kettle]

"In the new world, no shackles shall limit your freedom" wait what new world?

[storm hull]

do we already know what will happen with existing stacked pineacle?

on my site as premium f2p i stacked 2k blue pinacles and asking myself, what will happen with them after the Patch?

[sharp talon]

new planet confirmed

[empty kettle]

No, that's probably coming in the next expansion

[sharp talon]

i needed to add /s there since ig not obvious

[empty kettle]

Not yet but we will get more info in the s4 reveal

[hollow kite]

Guys, does anyone know why Crota weekly objectives didn't reset today!? 😵‍💫

[pulsar coral]

My free keys for challengemod are not there?

[hollow kite]

Same

[pulsar coral]

Wtf

[hollow kite]

Check your crota to see if it reset for this week. Mine didn't reset

[pulsar coral]

Same

[hollow kite]

Did your crota weekly objectives reset for the week ahead or still showing as completed from last week?

[pulsar coral]

Same as you

[hollow kite]

Thanks for confirming, I appreciate you 🙌

We need to report it in game 🎮

[pulsar coral]

Yes

[oak temple]

shiett I haven't seen the server this alive since....

[empty kettle]

The clocks ticking⏰

[hollow kite]

How did you post the screenshot, it wouldn't let me share

[empty kettle]

I think you need to reach lv 3 in this discord

[hollow kite]

Ahhh gotcha, thanks for confirming, I appreciate you 🙌

[bitter estuary]

just grind crota's end deathsingers

[hollow kite]

Mind if I send you a DM, highlighting a screenshot of mine not resetting?

[empty kettle]

Sure

[hollow kite]

Thank you 🙌

[hollow kite]

Sent 📤

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-on-fire-sitting-edited-on-fire-fire-gif-17645117

[hollow kite]

Thank you 💪🙌

[empty kettle]

Np

[hollow kite]

Yours shows 3/5 and mine and the other guy shows 0/0 sooo odd

[empty kettle]

I didn't bother doing mine

[hollow kite]

I did mine last week, completed it at least 5 or 6 times out of boredom tbh. But..this week TODAY it should have reset and SHOULD display 5/5 but it very strangely and oddly didn't reset today and still shows as completed from last week 0/0 😱 it blows my mind!! 🤯

[empty kettle]

Crota seems to be leaving, as the nine has no use keeping the illusion up

[hollow kite]

Hopefully they will bring in the VOG 😎👑

[empty kettle]

Pretty unlikely

[bitter estuary]

considering kabr is alive idk

[empty kettle]

It's better for netease to do original raids and make something new for the rising Crota

[hollow kite]

I'm missing the lore here, fill me in pls I took a break from D2 just before Witcher expansion

I mean from my understanding DR is the prequel to D1 and D2 right?

[empty kettle]

The nine made an illusion of another timelines crota (weaker than our own) so that we can prepare

[empty kettle]

No, rising is in a alternate timeline

[hollow kite]

So if it's from an alternative timeline then how does it all link up together if D1 and D2 was afterwards?

[empty kettle]

It doesn't

It wouldn't make sense

[hollow kite]

So why do we have some of the same characters then if they don't link up together then? 😵‍💫

[empty kettle]

Alternate timeline, different ways of using the light in less refined version from d1-2

[hollow kite]

Why would DR have Ikora and D1 and D2 have Ikora but yet nothing links up together then!? It don't make sense if your saying there's no link 😔

[empty kettle]

Ikora exist in many other timelines but not all of them have met the same outcome

[oak temple]

Bro, ask Osiris that kind of question. We don't even know exactly how Saint came back.

[empty kettle]

There is another version of Wolf from an alternate rising timeline that achieved much more than the one we are currently playing as

But he most likely died

[hollow kite]

So is it like multiple timelines in one universe or like multiple universe in multiple timelines?

[hollow kite]

I know right!? I'm stumped too on that

[empty kettle]

Multiple universes in Multiple timelines with endless possibilities

The hive could have been lightbearers just like us in a different timeline

[hollow kite]

Dayyyum, that blows my mind 🤯

[glad valve]

Sup Rising

[hollow kite]

Because of Eris Morn, having a link between the hive and the lightbearers (guardians) ?

[glad valve]

I chosen the Crimson from the 14 day login

[empty kettle]

No, because the hive was the ones who were visited by the traveler before us and the fallen

[glad valve]

I liked Eris back in Witch Queen expansion. She turned into Savathun

Forsaken Witch Queen are the best expansions

[hollow kite]

Dang it!! I missed that, I literally stopped playing just before Witcher expansion 😞

[glad valve]

Witch Queen was so gritty and Dark I loved it. Forsaken and Witch Queen are just the best

[hollow kite]

Ahhhh, I see. That's kinda makes sense

[glad valve]

Savathun kidnapped Osiris

[dim trench]

Same

[hollow kite]

Forsaken was MEGA loved that expansion 🔥💪

[glad valve]

I wish you could experience Witch Queen you will love it HighLife

The story was amazing

[hollow kite]

Whoooah 😱🫣 dang it, gutted!! I missed that Grrr

[glad valve]

Prince Uldren is now Crow, Osiris took him in and trained him to be a better person and now Crow is with us

Savathun Tortured Osiris

Like literally

[hollow kite]

It was the content and price at the time it just put me off dude. I needed to take a break from the the repetitiveness it was becoming tiresome at times NGL. But after reading what you said about what I missed, I kinda have regrets now ngl 😂

[hollow kite]

Thanks for confirming, appreciate you 👑🙌

[dim trench]

No problem

[hollow kite]

Wahoooo, ahhh man... I'm gutted I missed this now. Ahhhh **** my life 😔😂🫣

[glad valve]

I understand I took a break in Beyond Light that expansions didn’t exceed my expectations. But soon as Witch Queen dropped i experienced it again but doing legendary campaign

[glad valve]

Im a big Destiny player brother. I was there day 1 for the first Destiny I did all that on Xbox 1 and day 1 for Destiny 2 on PlayStation

[hollow kite]

Mind DM me a screenshot so I can share with support as another example as the more the merrier that will help us resolve the issue and update my ticket

[bitter estuary]

balls

[hollow kite]

Same as too buddy XBL too VastGsm007, I was there for D1 and D2 too. Loved the journey, built a clan and a community then COVID arrived and our dear dad passed away 🪽 and fell off the horse and took me a while to get back on again. I never did return to Xbox either been offline now for almost 1,000 days now I think and still counting. Heck, I didn't even upgrade to series s/X either. Xboxone unplugged behind TV 😞

[glad valve]

The only thing I’m not liking is the direction of Fate Saga. It’s kinda a BOOOO at the moment

[glad valve]

I’m sorry for your loss. I can relate my dad passed away 2 years ago so yeah I feel the pain brother I’m all healed now.

[hollow kite]

Moving away from the dark and light to focus on the nine and darkness

[hollow kite]

Thank you brother, I appreciate you King 👑 Big Love for the Love 💙💪 Yeah NGL, loosing dad was rough and tough. Taken far too early at the ripe age of 66. He was more than a dad to me he was like my best friend my mate my bro my pal my light my everything really buddy. We did so much together, football, fishing, racing, jogging, meals, walks, talks then nothing. Hardest thing was being there during his passing holding his hand and watching him take his last breath 🌬️ MAN, that was painful it's got me all going watery eyes again! Still tough, but each day gets a little easier 👍

[hollow kite]

Thank you for your kind regards, likewise my friend my utmost deepest sincere condolences to you also for the loss of your pops. Big love to you all 💙🤗💪

[glad valve]

You’re welcome and thank you too 💙

Much love to you to brother

[hollow kite]

Guys CROTA weekly reset bug 🪲 now fixed 👍

Credit to NetEase for PROMPTLY resolving 👏🏆🙌 if that was 🐌 SnailGames we would still be waiting for weeks for resolution! 💯

[dusty spire]

Knowing them it’s an extended area called they have translated as new world some how

[hollow kite]

NGL it's a bit 🧀y in a way

[fleet juniper]

Check your mailbox, they just arrived there

[haughty mist]

Wanted to ask real quick, Do we know if the Gilding Triumphs for the S3 Seal will be lowered like in previous seasons, I ask after doing some math from S1 and S2, I found a few things.

S1's similar triumphs Disciplined / Morning Training ask for 1,500 and 2,100 Pinnacle energy Respectively (doing some math) we hit 12.5 and 17.5 days to complete these triumphs

S2's time commitment triumphs Habits / Perseverance ask for 1,500 and 3,600 respectively, making 12.5 and 30 days to complete respectively (While this increased, this is not too bad of an ask.)

S3's time commitment triumphs Fate's Will / High table change this formula from Pinnacle energy to HV bounties, asking for 40 and 240. This is a drastic increase compared to prior seasons, going from 10 days on the base request, to 60 for Gilding. (600% increase from base to gilding, where previous seasons would be less that 50% for S1, and a 100% for S2.)

[fleet juniper]

Here we go again 😆

Have you been living under a rock for the past 4 Weeks 🫣

[haughty mist]

Life has been "Fun" for me these last 3 months, what are you referring to?

[fleet juniper]

Good thing is that this and last season the pinnacle already count since beginning of the season, not only after you finish the normal Seal.

So finish the normal Seal and check what you miss. It should be almost completed

[haughty mist]

I have 180 HV bounties already done, 60 is the remaining amount, It's physically impossible for me to Complete the seal due to the hard limit of HV bounties

[fleet juniper]

Well then you will miss that achievement 🤷🏻‍♂️

As bounties stack for 3 Days you would be fine if played at least every 3 days…

[haughty mist]

Same goes for Pinnacle energy, My crittism of HT adjudicator is the drastic increase of the Gilding requirements, and the more restricted format, Pinnacle energy can be bought, High value bounties cannot

[fleet juniper]

As it’s a gilded Seal there is always a kind of interaction and time commitment needed. It’s not granted for free 🤷🏻‍♂️

[haughty mist]

Yes, I understand that. I'm not saying it shouldn't be a commitment, but even still, there needs to be more reasonable requirements, or at least make the Gilding requirements visable to make the player aware of the Commitment required for the Latter half of the seal

[fleet juniper]

I shared the requirements on reddit 2 Months ago.

[haughty mist]

And thank you for posting that, but still the full seal should be visible in game, without needing a player to post the requirements.

Eh, I'm just venting, Forgive me, reasoning was given above, Compared to past seasons, it's a drastic increase, just feel bad I had managed to get 7/8 on the seal, missing everything but the Dang bounties

[obtuse chasm]

Bros fighting ai

[wraith scaffold]

true

[bitter estuary]

10 days left till pinnacle is obbliterated

[glad valve]

Good

Pinnacle energy = 🗑️

[dusty spire]

Reveal soon!

[bitter estuary]

Wait wrong gif

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-troom-troom-peetum-facts-fax-gif-24698876

[buoyant nymph]

wait no more energy thing or is this another teaser for something?

[bitter estuary]

Reveal is a week away

[restive ruin]

could be bait (like weekly timegates that is only marginally better) but hopefully its the real deal and has people coming back

wonder what happens to people with a decent amount of pinnacle reserves

[bitter estuary]

True

[empty kettle]

5 days left for me

[bitter estuary]

its more like less than a week but whatever

[candid phoenix]

photooooooon

[leaden stirrup]

Hi 👋

[cosmic trellis]

I’ll be missing this season’s seal cuz I can’t get a team together to do bridge in under 7 minutes 🫠

[glad valve]

Do you know when the event shop restocks or does it not

[cosmic trellis]

Ah well it’s not a season io want to remember tbh

[misty marsh]

why is it gold when nth useful ever pops out

[glad valve]

I need some mythic mods I have a few but not loads

[dusk socket]

I played 3 masters solo because there are no players playing the game

What happened?

[naive ingot]

Everyone is saving there keys for the new season

[glad valve]

Thanks for the tip Gwynn

See this is why Gwynn is the best

[naive ingot]

For those sweet sweet metastable cores. Unless that's being changed too..... 👀

[cyan tide]

What event?

[glad valve]

This event

[cyan tide]

It doesn't restock, once you get everything in the shop it goes away

[glad valve]

Ahh ok. So I’m assuming there will be a new 1 in season 4 right

[cyan tide]

Probably not, it's a new player event

[glad valve]

Ok makes sense thanks for the explanation

[storm scroll]

You answer the question yourself within the first sentence lol

[storm scroll]

N
Why would ppl be doing masters

[storm scroll]

It's aseasonal thing meant for you to engage with it throughout the season. You just sound lazy

[haughty mist]

That doesn’t address the message your responding too, Ive done plenty of the HV bounties, I’m just asking for the Total requirement to at least be visible to better keep track, or at least an Idea of the End goal.

[storm scroll]

It was also an extended season

[gritty rune]

Tbh the seasonal achievements are kind of getting boring anyways cos the reward is always just a title and an emblem, and we have so many titles and emblems that it feels pointless

Wish it was like WWM where the seasonal achievement gave you a cosmetic

[bitter estuary]

gm's or masters

tbh you'd have to make a fireteam and share it

i found that works all the time

[remote grove]

Snowed in 🫩

[neat thicket]

we got like no snow here for this storm

[bitter estuary]

balls

[neat thicket]

i wouldve loved to have the snow but im glad it wasnt a problem for this weekend at least

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-low-cortisol-low-cortisol-dance-true-low-cortisol-the-dance-triad-gif-3930901520297507503

[bitter estuary]

snow??? In march??

[gritty rune]

You can just solo GMs with bots now

[remote grove]

Wisconsin problems

[bitter estuary]

i know

[neat thicket]

cheese

[gritty rune]

Such a good change tbh

Game should have been solo-oriented to start with

Cos no one wants to co-op in a gacha game

[neat thicket]

you could solo them anyways tho, no?

[bitter estuary]

oh lol that's like north north but not alaska north

[rotund flame]

Dang that's crazy, but your still coming in for work right? - work manger

[gritty rune]

Yes and no, depends on what characters you have given the shinkas. Some of them like assembly line are also just annoying to solo

[remote grove]

Bahaha

[bitter estuary]

i mean tbf gachas worked because of the daily loop

the game isn't compatible at all with the gacha daily loop

[neat thicket]

or just brute forcing, given enough time i completed every gm with tan solo lmao

except for this season bc i barely touched it but

[gritty rune]

Gachas nowadays are massively cutting down on daily loop

Like how Genshin just made it such that doing anything finishes your dailies

Mobile games as a whole are mostly played solo

[bitter estuary]

meanwhile arknights endfield with their 2 hour per day loop

[gritty rune]

Bloody hell

Why do people even like that game again?

[empty kettle]

Try to say something without mentioning WWM: impossible

[gritty rune]

Well yeah, cos it’s NetEase’s other PvE game on mobile and it’s doing everything I wish DR got

So pardon me for feeling like DR is the stepchild

[rotund flame]

People who liked the original arknights game

[gritty rune]

From what I get, AK fans don’t like what they’re doing with AKE

[bitter estuary]

kinda overestimating but that's if i include rare growths/picking flowers every 4 days and dijiang spacecraft parts

it cuts down to an hour, still long though
dailies 5 min -> dijiang daily stuff 5~10 min -> visit friends ships 5~10 min -> spend energy 15~30 min (depending how good your team is -> claim aic creds (10~20 min) -> transfer supplies from valley 4 to wuling 5 min (they made it so that you are constantly out of ferrium lmao, so you have to do that too, ui is attrocious) -> delivery mode (30~ min for all outposts)

[gritty rune]

I keep seeing complaints that the combat is too simple, the worldbuilding and storytelling is nothing like AK

[bitter estuary]

if you dont do this you cannot max out a character in a week

[rotund flame]

Yeah I agree with them, loved the original. This game is trying to do too much to the point where it makes everything seem kinda mid. I didn't like the game

[gritty rune]

Sounds like a pain tbh

[bitter estuary]

and in a month you need a whole 4 weeks to max out 1 team

[bitter estuary]

because it is

i liked 1.1 story but after (spoiler) ||the fight with ruan yi, the story falls apart, also why did they inject tangtang into the story when she's a limited character||

[gritty rune]

Tbf it kind of sounds like Honkai fans complaining about Genshin at launch.

Maybe it’ll attract a whole different audience

[cyan tide]

That doesn't sound too bad, how many characters are there in a team?

[bitter estuary]

4

You need like 5k sanity to max out 1 weap iirc, unless if you lucky then it counts down to 2k sanity to refactor weapons

And then uhhhhhh what else

Oh the gear, the refactor system is similar to d:r but the prices increase drastically every tier

And you need to do it 4 times

Which can take millions of wuling cred

While there's less rng than genshin, the character building feels unrewarding

That being said, they added a way to get an essence guaranteed now though idk how much is it because i havent upgraded my depot node

[rotund flame]

I remember sanity pots, in the old game it would only last a week or two.wonder if the game still does this? Dumbest thing. Other games don't make energy resources expire

[bitter estuary]

Emergency sanity? Yeah they still do that

And they give you that on a daily basis

So you're forced to spend them

[rotund flame]

Does it expire like the old game? Otherwise you lose it?

[gritty rune]

Anyways, I hope they revamp progression and loot chase along with pinnacle

Cos if it’s just ‘you get infinite pinnacle now’. It won’t bring players back

[bitter estuary]

Yeah

like it feels awful to grind stuff in the game

[rotund flame]

Yeah have no idea how the game is going to be without pinnacle. It's either going to be decent or really bad

[bitter estuary]

i hope its great

but that being said it might also end up like dna which i hope it doesn't

[obtuse folio]

Hype for new stuff

[sullen depot]

Me thinks they are changing to a Morgan prey style reward system. First few runs per day for each activity give guaranteed rewards and then farmable non-guarantees after that

[dusk socket]

If none is doing master means there's no new players

[bitter estuary]

oh my godddd im so tired of this argument, most new lights haven't gone pass onslaught s1, let alone masters

[round crown]

Who is fastest player here

I m new need new friends for play

[dusk socket]

Sorry but this is a good arguemnt

[finite gazelle]

"sorry but I'm right" people just be saying anything 😭✌️

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/couples-court-miss-jackson-what-the-hell-blank-stare-girl-wth-gif-4184444263295457483

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-god-father-marlon-brando-vito-corleone-talk-to-me-gif-17298460831965425900

[empty kettle]

The countless new lights that I just spotted in JSM

[glad valve]

How’s everyone

[twilit thistle]

[delicate mango]

Lol

Someone been saving up

[finite gazelle]

Don't several of those expire after the season ends

[indigo solar]

Several become redundant, but they're all still usable

Here's my spread

Still mad I accidentally used my s1 and s2 engrams

@vast arch six hours left to claim your keys

[bitter estuary]

860 engrams

have you gotten godrolls of all the mythics

[vast arch]

I claimed them, I have 17/12 keys now

[indigo solar]

Lmao

[bitter estuary]

i realized d:r is a seperate tab wtf

and it runs .dmg and not .ipa, hmm

i went to the files and it's also .dmg

not .apk

so it is native

i still dont know if thats true

[white fossil]

anything new or

[candid phoenix]

nothing till the 26th probably

just the tweets

[white fossil]

rip

its been like 2 weeks since i last played 😂

[candid phoenix]

collect ur challenge keys at least

[indigo solar]

Pinnacle will be removed in s4

[white fossil]

im curious what happened with the blessing, idk what happens if you miss more than 3 days in a row

[white fossil]

already had 12

[white fossil]

thats pretty fire

[candid phoenix]

you still get re-sign in days, i think you can only claim 3 per day though

[white fossil]

oh i see so i didnt just waste my 4.99, epic to know

i should login soon i havent even finished the battle pass this time

[candid phoenix]

tbf you get 300 leaves and 300 silver from the blessing anyways, it was always worth it

[white fossil]

that is true

[candid phoenix]

4.99 in pure silver is only like 360

[white fossil]

yeah silver is expensive 😭

what can 360 silver even get

like 2 draws if you convert to leaves lmaoo

[elder reef]

Vno7kKS1

[elder wing]

We might actually see the return of the bundles

[empty kettle]

Hopefully a new set

[twilit thistle]

I likely have more than one copy of the same god rolls. I’m 500/500 on weapons cuz they all double mythic

[elder wing]

Definitely. As I said before S4 is gonna be like first season of the game with plenty of changes and etc

[empty kettle]

Can't wait to see what the s4's seasonal campaign has in store for us

[elder wing]

Im just hoping for a server merge as well

Maybe this Thursday or Saturday we might see a trailer of the new banner too

[dusty spire]

Expectations lead to disappointment

I’m waiting on reveal lol

And I could be wrong but I still don’t believe they would prematurely give us the next banner hero before a teaser

Especially by name…..

[empty kettle]

The reveal trailer will tell us about somethings (gotta keep some info silent)

[sullen depot]

LOL free new character

[dusty spire]

Free 4*

[sullen depot]

5* wolf 👀👀

[empty kettle]

Could this be 🐺 ?

[halcyon moss]

Uh what the frick is this?????????????????

[elder wing]

Tbh I won’t be disappointed whatsoever. I still love the game to this day! Any other changes are+ so whatever comes with S4 it’ll be a new beginning to new adventures

[halcyon moss]

Please tell me this guy is making an April fools joke

[dusty spire]

I’m with you here

[empty kettle]

He's just saying anything to stay relevant

[dusty spire]

lol

So we get free character

[candid phoenix]

at least the video isn't dragged out to 20 minutes

[elder wing]

Bro that dude is a f rage baiter! He doesn’t even play the game…

[empty kettle]

Could be our boy,

[dusty spire]

So many of them too lol

[dusty spire]

I’m all for it too

[elder wing]

Bruh that dude just posts for post! He runs out of d2 content then rage baits dr lmao

[dusty spire]

I don’t get why they do it to, other than attention seeking

[twilit thistle]

Too slow (second)

[dusty spire]

I had to pull out the Pokemon video yesterday

For the I quit pros

[candid phoenix]

y'all gotta stop wishing on this ahamkara or else he's gonna be stronger in the raid

[stark forge]

how the ahamkara feel ragebaiting rn

[dusty spire]

I don’t get why you tell everyone you quit do t like the game ect ect but we see them in here consistently calling out real community members

[magic lichen]

i quit.

[twilit thistle]

My genuine reaction was to press F

[empty kettle]

That's the point, we gotta make Wolf stronger so that they can kill Crota

[stark forge]

yeah i quit warframe to play destiny

[indigo solar]

I quit

[candid phoenix]

we're gonna get Wolf, the Guardian

[twilit thistle]

I quit

[pliant rain]

A new free character???

[magic lichen]

everyone quit. games dead.

[stark forge]

but every character is free what changed

[empty kettle]

Wolf, The Saviour

[pliant rain]

I think they mean free character not from the gacha

[cyan tide]

Could be a 4*

[opaque torrent]

New rarity. 3 stars

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-world-gif-1259088378810768539

[opaque torrent]

Free

[stark forge]

if its a free 5* t6 i will take

[bitter estuary]

free t6 4*

[sullen depot]

Nah nah 6* wolf 🐺!!!

[indigo solar]

They mean you get a guaranteed free Efrideet copy, like with ikora and Kabr

[opaque torrent]

I mean. Free character is so strange. Either they are extremely comfortable to do so. Or they're building the coffin

[candid phoenix]

i could be like the first campaign where we got Ikora and Kabr lol

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/howling-our-living-world-cry-shout-wolf-gif-2600452429554792787

[pliant rain]

Oh yeah Efrideet is coming to the game:D

[halcyon moss]

That's what im saying because there is no way this is the case for this version of the game. Because they already gave us a road map and people are saying that there is no content???? I am actually annoyed because destiny rising does alot of things right. Plus I didn't have a problem with pinnacle energy because I barely use it so I pretty much stick up my pinnacle energetic above the limit which was prob not the best thing to do lol. I don't get why they don't help promote the game instead youtubers only say "omg guys this game is dying what will we ever do"?

[dusty spire]

No you ain’t! That much I know 😅😂❤️

[pliant rain]

Finally Efrideet face reveal

[dusty spire]

I wouldn’t mind

[elder wing]

I don’t think it’ll be wolf! It might be brand new character but free pulls

[pliant rain]

[dusty spire]

It’s that arc hunter

[candid phoenix]

ragebait gets more views lol

[dusty spire]

It’s her event

Free 4* t6

[pliant rain]

Isn't Efrideet a titan???

[cyan tide]

Roadmaps don't mean anything tbf
Highguard had a roadmap

[candid phoenix]

i'm curious what y'all think: would it be better to constantly have events like Kabr-R and Ikora-H's 60 free draws or bring back our pity from Jaren's banner

[dusty spire]

You cannot quit

[red geyser]

[dusty spire]

Nope she’s a hunter apparently

[indigo solar]

She's a bladedancer

[toxic edge]

Idk what do u expect from him

[pliant rain]

:0

[indigo solar]

Too late

[dusty spire]

Wait?

[indigo solar]

No more smoking for me

[frozen nimbus]

What? Every character we will get for free? 😱

[dusty spire]

So they have hunter titan warlock blade dancer?

[candid phoenix]

Oh this wasn't AI? lol

[indigo solar]

Pity should be coming back with her I believe

[glad valve]

Free New Character

[sullen depot]

Brotha that’s some insane copium

[empty kettle]

Said no sane person

[glad valve]

Someone is COPING

[dusty spire]

We will just have to summon you back infinitely

[candid phoenix]

I think so too, but i'm curious if the 60 free draws is a more well like model or not

[toxic edge]

It can be easily understood, that it will only be one

[sullen depot]

What if it’s 5* wolf for free and then efrideet limited. We will have to see

[indigo solar]

We'll get a free copy of every char, we won't get t6 of every char for free tho

[empty kettle]

5* Wolf would be peak tho

[burnt tendon]

I think that’s a good model though

[sullen depot]

Wait we are getting a free copy of every character 👀👀

[burnt tendon]

And a new wolf would be peak

[indigo solar]

Every new character

[cyan tide]

Don't jump to conclusions

[twilit thistle]

They mean more of the same. Calling it. We gonn get like 4 half baked story missions u beat in like 2 hours and never go back to. Alot of stuff that’s less efficient to grind for than it was previously. 0 concerns actually addressed. And another half baked char. Same effort put in that has been put in up to this point. That’s what I expect.

[toxic edge]

Source?

[burnt tendon]

Is it even gacha anymore

[sullen depot]

If that’s trueee I’m guzzling netease. Y’all haven’t seen a real glazer yet

[burnt tendon]

No pinnacle energy and free characters

[indigo solar]

Official Twitter

[cyan tide]

The tweet does read like it means every new character will be free but taking that as a fact is just setting yourself up for disappointment

[indigo solar]

There's still gacha for talents

[burnt tendon]

True

[toxic edge]

A copy of every?

[sullen depot]

The talents must be busted tho if they give characters for free 👀👀

[cyan tide]

Just assume it's going to be only Efrideet, and if it turns to be every character then even better

[sullen depot]

Well one copy that is

[indigo solar]

One sec driving so searching is slow but will send other dev comment in a moment

[candid phoenix]

#social-media message

[wicked lagoon]

What do you mean the next season won't have pinnacle energy anymore?

[halcyon moss]

Im prolly gunna unsub

[tight talon]

[indigo solar]

Each new character release will come with a free copy, but you're not getting a free Helhest copy

[candid phoenix]

"I shall rewrite this cruel rule.
From this moment forth, every new bond, every new ally..." this is sus

[elder wing]

Bro! Read the dev blog…

[candid phoenix]

did they release one?

[toxic edge]

Good thing only character I missed was Maru

[cyan tide]

Where dev blog?

[wicked lagoon]

I just found out about that. And where is the dev blog?

[empty kettle]

Ahamkara words are always twisted in a way

[elder wing]

Twitter

[tight talon]

I wanna gamble, the joy of reaching 55 and still not getting the character. and then these idiots just give the character for free

[toxic edge]

Go to a casino

[tight talon]

Nah

You lose in Casino

you dont here

[elder wing]

They be teasing soo bad lately 😫

[candid phoenix]

anything other than the ahamkara messages? those aren't a dev blog

[indigo solar]

"Similarly, we are currently planning structural adjustments to our free rewards system. We firmly believe that active players are the foundation of a healthy game ecosystem, and we do not want monetization to become a wall that prevents players from experiencing the game's content. The major update coming early next year will bring significant improvements on this front."

[opaque torrent]

Link to dev blog ?

[toxic edge]

Link to the source?

[cyan tide]

Is that an old dev blog?

[candid phoenix]

are you guys talking aboutt he blog from november???

[halcyon moss]

She was always a hunter

[indigo solar]

#game-updates message

[last warren]

Free mythic finnala, im ready

[toxic edge]

Ok, its the energy one

[elder wing]

You are weary... weary of begging for a companion's favor in a sea of faces?
Indeed, trust should not be a calculated gamble.
True bonds should be the gratuitous gravity between souls.

I shall rewrite this cruel rule.
From this moment forth, every new bond, every new ally...
Shall gather by your side, freely.
This is my reward for your loyalty, O Companion Mine.

[toxic edge]

Btw, when is this dropping?

[opaque torrent]

Every new character free is some copium

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/golden-freddy-golden-freddy-tweaking-tweaking-gif-7239630623117779377

[cyan tide]

26th

[elder wing]

Every new banner= 1 coppy for free

[opaque torrent]

What about our leaves ?

[candid phoenix]

assumed to be the 26th, S4 start

[opaque torrent]

I have like 500

[elder wing]

What about them?

[candid phoenix]

you're still going to need to draw for talents

[toxic edge]

Bad time for me
New Warframe update

[elder wing]

You can still use them for pulls…

[toxic edge]

😂

[indigo solar]

Latter half talks about Lumia
#1450487225325322332 message

[candid phoenix]

yeah there's a ton of stuff dropping at the end of the month ngl

[sullen depot]

You get the base character free. But the talents they will def make busted i feel like. So to encourage the draws

[candid phoenix]

it's already kinda like that

[cyan tide]

Or they will balance content around T1-2 characters instead of T0

[elder wing]

If they out Efrideet and they give you first copy for free… you know the rest of the talents gon be sick

[empty kettle]

Someone please Wish for our boy, to get his 5* sentinel form

[sullen depot]

Oh yeah for sure. But I mean way more talents like Hellhest or Estella were their talents basically change how the character is played or how op they get

[candid phoenix]

as long as i keep my stupid expensive skin

[indigo solar]

Good news is active f2p will be able to consistently get t1 on every new char, possibly even consistent t2 depending on how much more free Lumia they give

6, 1, and 4 tend to be the most impactful talents

[wide dagger]

So it’s solar ?

[weak ginkgo]

What if they mean Free character but by playing the Efredeet event to get the free copy?

[candid phoenix]

the same as ikora-h and kabr-r maybe?

[indigo solar]

Arc

[indigo solar]

Yes

[indigo solar]

Yes

[wide dagger]

flip

[weak ginkgo]

Could be the case. Just hope isn't a 4* remake but actually new banner

[indigo solar]

It's Efrideet

[weak ginkgo]

Yup. Makes sense as the event is literally called Efrideet

[candid phoenix]

The roadmap technically never said new character 😳

[weak ginkgo]

There's a full release of the road map coming on the 21

[empty kettle]

Not enough space to put it there

[dusty spire]

So went through the App Store again to look for another gacha and guess what

Nothing slaps like DR

Crazy

And I’m being real

[weak ginkgo]

Tbh best mobile game in my book! Nothing plays and feels like it. The gun play and skills of each character are soo unique

[sullen depot]

Game just needs some better marketing to go with it now

[elder wing]

I just want their next tweet to say server merge 😫

We have 3 more tweets to come! I just hope one of them mentions that

[thorny frost]

Design wise I think it would be neat if they tied getting the unit through playing their story mode. Then they don’t have to tie it to a draw either and could be a fun way for new players to get old units, even if they have no way to rank them up.

[magic lichen]

nty

[dusty spire]

Facts

Only other gacha theme that could ever make me consider and the gun play would have to be equally close to its original.

Mass effect

[jagged osprey]

I’m still at a loss for words on why we getting a 3rd free character

[sullen depot]

I think it’s only 2 more tweets. We got the first tweet March 9 for NA which is technically March 10 in China. And event calender says March 10-19. But we shall see

[dusty spire]

Remember they want us to have access

They sell into access

[thorny frost]

It is probably to try and bridge the gap between Destiny players who aren’t gacha players and gacha players.

[dusty spire]

So you have hero ok here you go cosmetic BP weapon materials ect evt

[dusty spire]

This too as new lights will be behind the hero pool size

Since they have already missed a few limited banners

So yeah definitely a bridge @thorny frost with you on that

[bitter estuary]

i seen tower of fantasy remove the gacha completely in a "global" server so idk maybe we'll see the day d:r has no gacha anymore

[dusty spire]

Is that the grind unlimited game?

[bitter estuary]

thats duet night abyss

[thorny frost]

There philosophy also it seems like was that all active players should be able to get all new units…. Just they didn’t account for how little people would farm CalOps and bounties.

[dusty spire]

Yeah that’s the one….hate the idea really do

It’s over over whelming for a gacha type game

Part of gatcha is also building resources so that you cut that stuff out….

[thorny frost]

It is possibly, but I feel like they would really need to figure out monetization a bit more. If memory serves DNA had issues with revenue on release.

[dusty spire]

I just want more activities that invite all heroes

[bitter estuary]

because the game was a buggy mess on top of ue5 being a crappy engine

[dusty spire]

Why am I gated ever 2 weeks to play the few heroes the devs want me to play

[peak sinew]

Why you hate the idea that reward grinders

[dusty spire]

I get content created around the banner but it’s over limited

[peak sinew]

It make 0 sense

[dusty spire]

Because I can reward grind for other things?

I like pulling for heroes ….

[peak sinew]

Nah look at warframe

Got more players than all destiny games combined

[dusty spire]

Once you stop pulling your in a different style of a digital collectors game

[thorny frost]

Reminder mobile gamers are different then council/pc gamers. The time the invest in playing each day on a game tends to be lower (saw one Content Creator make this comment about DNA). Games that have stupidly high grind are bashed as well as gacha genre.

[rotund raptor]

Collectors era coming

[dusty spire]

Yup I like the bite sized play

And the longer session on my console

[peak sinew]

It should be higher btw since your phone is always with you not like pc/console

[dusty spire]

Butttttt

The raid proved something

My phone can handle console level time

And pc

That is quite impressive

So maybe netease could consider make longer activities

[thorny frost]

Target audience is very important to keep in mind. Mobile gamers tend to focus on quick sessions on breaks/rides/while doing other things. This isn’t true for all but it has been stated as such by developers which would need to follow the trend. If you are just going to sit down and game, why wouldn’t you focus on an actual full blown game?

[dusty spire]

How many mobile/tablet users completed the raid on the battery devices?

[dusty spire]

Tbf I’m a heavy mobile gamer I play on my device like a handheld console

[thorny frost]

There is a decent amount still probably, I personally only play on my phone. But that is so I can be near my wife and having kids made me relocate my computer lol.

[empty kettle]

Charge your phone

[dusty spire]

Mobile gaming leveled up so long you have a device for it and you optimise it…that’s why I was impressed with the raid time and time spent on my phone playing :/

[dusty spire]

lol knew someone was gonna say that, gonna dock it and log on soon

[bitter estuary]

more like people want to be able to play the same game whenever and wherever

its why most newer gacha releases has been ported onto pc or partner with an emulator so people can play it on pc

[twilit thistle]

Y have the mode to get to lvl 5, when nobody goes past 15 on the ‘endless’ mode that only rlly goes up to 60.

[glad valve]

Because they are scared to go higher

[sullen depot]

majority of pple only chase rewards and that stops at 15

[sharp talon]

damn free t0 of each new character going forward? theyre cooking

[empty kettle]

The reddit community will find a way to complain

[sharp talon]

this makes it so easy to save for t6 as well

if its gonna be as easy as ikora

[sullen depot]

im just curious now if reruns will ever happen in this case or if characters get moved over to standard banner after like ikora/kabr

[sharp talon]

i dont think they would do that cuz that would kinda remove fomo

[sullen depot]

well technically there is no more fomo if a character copy is guaranteed no? only fomo is on talents

[sharp talon]

if ur trying to t6, yea

[sullen depot]

yeah. well its all speculation. wil just have to wait and see

cuz like if u have the money to t6 a character, typically u just t6 from get go no

if u t6 from standard banner it will take longer

so no point waiting in that case

[sharp talon]

ye for the limiteds dont go into standard, that's the only opportunity to do so

if ur a mid spender u will have fomo

just randomly thinking of this screenshot where it shows gwynn on arc precision and kabr has a different picture lol

[sullen depot]

LOL that pic was the biggest bait in existence

[earnest gust]

will new ikora be in normal draw after event

[sullen depot]

yuh

[neat valley]

Hopefully this game never gets a actual pc release, there would be so many damn cheaters 😂

[sharp talon]

it would be crazy if they did something with weapon restrictions in s4

[bitter estuary]

it looks like uhh alpha screenshot idk because scaling a bit off idk

[sullen depot]

honestly thats interesting balance but i know lots of pple will complain and be up in flames about it since that also limits character pool

helhest rising goes strong

[neat valley]

Helhest is strong but the devs made her so who are we to question their vision 🤧

[sullen depot]

gonna be 6* wolf rising soon /s

[neat valley]

As long as other characters become op I don’t mind

[signal spade]

Free characters in smart so they can sell skins

[neat valley]

We still waiting for the crota ones

[signal spade]

Getting a sick jaren crota skin isn't that cool if you don't have jaren

[neat valley]

What skins

[signal spade]

Well I think that was the point

[empty kettle]

Imagine the ahamkara grants Wolf access to his Sentinel form in exchange for something else

[sharp talon]

good point i didnt realize

[neat valley]

Mostly all just recolors

[signal spade]

If they dropped a gwynn crota skin like one in ten ppl would be able to buy it

I'm making up numbers but same idea

[neat valley]

Any crota skin people will buy

[sullen depot]

this game just needs better monetization. seasonal journey bundles, pandora bonuses, better skins, etc

[neat valley]

But we don’t have them

[signal spade]

Well you won't buy skins for characters you don't have is my point

[neat valley]

A lot of people have Gwen , I just don’t know how many actually still play

[signal spade]

I had a lot of friends come play crota only after jaren

Then they asked how to get jaren and when the answer was you don't

They pretty much fell off a cliff interest wise

[neat valley]

That’s probably heartbreaking to hear

No Jaren 💔

[sharp talon]

what if u dont even summon for t0 anymore ? and they just allow u to have t0 without summoning

[signal spade]

Now that problem pretty much gone and they can up the cosmetic game

[sharp talon]

all past characters automatically t0, so new players can still use older characters

[signal spade]

It'll probably be like that if I had to guess you just do their story missions and get em like the campaign characters

[neat valley]

I sure hope they do up their cosmetic game , I remember in a old survey the gave us , they asked us how we feel about collabs for skins

[sullen depot]

kafka in Drising 💀

[sharp talon]

i want to do the mission for estella and have her light link lol

[neat valley]

Estella has the best campaign

[sullen depot]

yeah i didnt pull for gwyn or maru so i dont have that light link for my haikora

[neat valley]

So fun

[golden spade]

Question: should I use my keys for grandmaster or save them for S4?

[sharp talon]

save

or wait for the reveal, maybe they will remove

[signal spade]

Safe to assume new mods in s4

[neat valley]

Hopefully new fish to fish for

[sullen depot]

fishing is the true end game

[elder wing]

Gotta save em till 21.

[signal spade]

Shadowshaper card variants or sad

[sharp talon]

need to make cat diet more diverse

[neat valley]

we need a dog

[golden spade]

Got it. Thanks guys 🙏

[sharp talon]

what about a wolf instead 🤣

[neat valley]

I stop feeding that cat ages ago , he never gave me anything good

[signal spade]

Need a farm in the pack den that lets us grow lumia leaves

[neat valley]

More npcs at the den

And maybe allow us to move them

There’s so many things they could do , hopefully they don’t let us down

[sharp talon]

how dare u starve the cats 😢

[neat valley]

Man f that cat

all I’ve gotten was fish tokens from him

He’s not getting my fish

[stark forge]

u could have tons of glimmer from the cat

[neat valley]

Omg glimmer

[indigo solar]

I just got a boat last week

And then a 10 Lumia the next day

[sharp talon]

they need to open a glimmer bank in haven

i want interest on my glimmer

[signal spade]

Cats such a pos. This cat wants red fish. Give it the red tetra, try again

[storm scroll]

Do yak live under a rock? Lol
There are only a couple of characters getting the Crota skin. They've already told us which ones

[neat valley]

You obviously didn’t read the chat history

Bro doesn’t even know what we’re talking about

[stark forge]

but like every char will get crota skins too

[signal spade]

We're also getting all of them pretty sure just staggered releases

[sharp talon]

Wait we need a cat crota skin

[neat valley]

Facts

[sullen depot]

meanwhile Pack banners are collecting dust

[sharp talon]

what is that supposed to be

[neat valley]

Maybe the clan logo

[sullen depot]

will have to find out when they do it

[signal spade]

Pack banners worked in alpha

Any day now

[sharp talon]

so what is it tho

[sullen depot]

what did pack banners do in alpha?

[stark forge]

maybe some sort of clan pvp clan war

[storm scroll]

RIP

[signal spade]

It's like d2 clan flags with more customizations

[sharp talon]

why did they deactivate it then weird

[neat valley]

It’s too advanced for their systems

[signal spade]

Probably needed better protection against tos stuff

[indigo solar]

Red tetra is a blue fish

[signal spade]

Yea then call it the blue tetra

[indigo solar]

Can't believe you didn't intuitively know that smh

[sharp talon]

they did the 3d model thing which is far more of an issue

[signal spade]

I mean I know it's not red but it's like the most 'what' interaction

[indigo solar]

Weren't unlocked then either

[neat valley]

That was awesome

I made a white monster in my den

[signal spade]

They were you could def customize the banners in alpha

[neat valley]

And kakashi

[storm scroll]

You'll realize how glimmer poor you really are soon lol

[signal spade]

I remember placing the icons and stuff

[sharp talon]

where can u even see the pack banner anyway?

[stark forge]

maybe they never start developing pack banner feature to begin with

[storm scroll]

Not until after lmao

[neat valley]

Yeah sucks in glimmer poor

[indigo solar]

Oh wait I vaguely remember now

[neat valley]

The games over for me

[signal spade]

In the den it changed all the flags

[indigo solar]

Yeahhh

[neat valley]

I can’t get #1 anymore since I’m glimmer poor

[signal spade]

Yea

[storm scroll]

What are you talking about

[sharp talon]

why does that menu look so cool

[signal spade]

The pack banners

[storm scroll]

If they put a bunch of cool stuff in game we will all be glimmer poor

[neat valley]

It’s not going to cost glimmer, it will be real money

[indigo solar]

Old ui was peak ngl

[sharp talon]

what did enchant do there?

[indigo solar]

Could get pack-wide buffs like increased glimmer drops, more damage in clan events etc

[storm scroll]

Huh? This is different thread. I admitted that I didn't read the I until after I said something about Crota skins

[sharp talon]

whaaat

thats fire, why did they remove it

[signal spade]

I don't think we ever left beta the more I read LMAO

[sullen depot]

OPEN BETA brutha

[storm scroll]

Does it cost glimmer to upgrade everything or no? Lmao

[neat valley]

Never really noticed , since I’ve always had enough

glimmers never been a issue for me

[sharp talon]

was the update cadence in alpha / beta much faster?

[indigo solar]

Alpha was about rapid iteration so we'd get pretty big balance changes every week

[signal spade]

Any day now we'll get bad juju

[neat valley]

bro how are you still around since the alpha

[storm scroll]

You are too busy failing at sarcasm lol

[neat valley]

You really love the game

[neat valley]

It’s just the honest truth

[magic lichen]

i need glimmer. not a joke.

[signal spade]

Need to minmax the ten glimmer dumps every Monday

[indigo solar]

Here's the first patch notice

[sharp talon]

why does the ui look worse now lol

[storm scroll]

Lol. Ok

[storm scroll]

He's not the only one lol

[indigo solar]

It's got a lot of potential

[storm scroll]

How much do you have rn?

[indigo solar]

Also there aren't a ton of great mobile games, and my pc is too bad to run a lot of games

[storm scroll]

What are you normally #1 in btw?

[storm scroll]

Just play the game and don't spend glimmer. Simple

[sharp talon]

wait, we need a glimmer leaderboard guys

[indigo solar]

I only have 1.5mil 😭

[neat valley]

Ive only used glimmer for artifact refactoring that’s all I use it for

[sharp talon]

damn i have 6.1mil i realized 💀

how do people run out?

[neat valley]

Idek

I didn’t think it was possible

[empty kettle]

Upgrading multiple things

[indigo solar]

Refactoring burns a lot

[neat valley]

Not grinding hard enough

I’ve been refactoring since day 1 , even racing for #1 power spots , I’ve never ran out

They always gave us more for events

[candid phoenix]

the barter event a while ago wiped like 3 mil from my reserves

[sharp talon]

i think that was the only thing where i was using a lot of glimmer for

[empty kettle]

NETEASE!!! GIVE US 5* WOLF AND OUR LIVES ARE YOURS!!!

[storm scroll]

Im at 8 mil currently. I'll be good if I can get to 20

[sharp talon]

i need to be min maxing glimmer, i forgot to buy the resources from the destination mats

[storm scroll]

Im a collector and completionist . So I spend glimmer

[candid phoenix]

when does zavala revive in lore, can we get him in rising?

[neat valley]

Yes you told us yesterday

[storm scroll]

How much do you have currently.

[neat valley]

Enough to get whatever I need

[storm scroll]

Did we talk about glimmer yesterday?

[neat valley]

Yes

[storm scroll]

Lol. Ok bud. I grind more than you guaranteed not sure if that comment was for me

Don't cherry pick the questions

[neat valley]

Okay you grind more than me that’s cool

I don’t have to grind as much and get the same results

And I’ll answer whatever questions I feel like answering 😭

[stark forge]

unless they always open the barter shop event we would actually go broke on glimmer

[wispy maple]

We about to get free mythical Wolf or Attal Lol

[sharp talon]

it seems the t0 for efrideet will be free

[storm scroll]

You said grind more. I was making sure you weren't talking to me

[storm scroll]

Obvious that you are full of it

And we don't get the same results at all lol

[neat valley]

nah the truth hurts I know

https://tenor.com/view/get-well-get-well-gif-13393267

[storm scroll]

#1 power spot? You're the best bro

[stark forge]

who grinds glimmer btw

[storm scroll]

No one

It comes from all activities

[magic lichen]

me

[storm scroll]

If you actually use pinnacle on glimmer you need help

[neat valley]

Glad you know I’m the best ❤️

[storm scroll]

At nothing lol

[gritty rune]

Wait, another free character?

[neat valley]

yeah cause you know me

😭

Why you so mad

[gritty rune]

Are we like, actually sunsetting lol

[stark forge]

the ahamkara just ragebait atp

[neat valley]

I must have really struck a nerve yesterday, you’ve been coming at me all morning bud 😭

bros the elite at discord beef

[sharp talon]

based on the tweet, it seems we are getting free t0 of every character going forward

[gritty rune]

‘I wish pinnacle system would be gone’

‘Wish granted, I deleted the entire game’

[storm scroll]

Im looking at your account as we speak

[neat valley]

Damn I got to you that bad

[sharp talon]

idk maybe they saw some good stats on kabr and ikora even if revenue was bad

[storm scroll]

Duh. It's my thing

[neat valley]

that’s sad af

[gritty rune]

Like 300k revenue last month lol

[neat valley]

💀

[gritty rune]

Idk, maybe we’re getting a cosmetic system?

[sharp talon]

ye revenue might be bad but player retention for f2p or whatever

[neat valley]

Do your thing

[sharp talon]

ye someone was talking about this earlier. you can't buy skins for chars u dont have

[gritty rune]

Download numbers also plummeted

[storm scroll]

How could you possibly get to me. Just verifying my thought before I continued

[neat valley]

nothing I’ve said have even a lie so I’m not worried one bit

[bitter estuary]

because there's barely any promo

[gritty rune]

We’re either about to get Michelin star meals or they’re burning the kitchen lol. Noting in between

[neat valley]

I’m chillin

[stark forge]

i mean advertising gone downhill lately

[gritty rune]

Has it ever been uphill?

[shut surge]

My guess is that the'll make the base character free (Unlocked through quests for example) but to upgrade their talent tree you'll still do gacha. Maybe instead of pulling a dupe you get a 4* or 5* catalyst item used to upgrade any of the characters you own

[storm scroll]

Imagine me thinking about yesterday. You are not that important. I don't even know what you are referring to tbh

[sharp talon]

it kinda feels like they dont want to be a gacha, lol

[stark forge]

at launch and ss1 i think then all channels gone dark except few tweets

[empty kettle]

They are leaning towards the destiny players

[shut surge]

it'd be WILD to see a gacha game walk back on the gacha. Sick as hell but entirely unheard of

[sullen depot]

imo every since the roadmap in november, i doubt they rlly cared about the revenue and put all their eggs into s4

[gritty rune]

But we have nothing else but gacha

Like, we have no cosmetic system lol

[neat valley]

Then why are you looking at my account?

[sullen depot]

we can only speculate but everything is a wait and see on how they will monetize

[gritty rune]

Duet Night Abyss tried it. It’s kinda dead

[shut surge]

one thing for sure. I love that they're basically roleplaying as an ahamkara for the dev log

it's really cute and reminds of tobias foxiton himself RPing as gaster for the chapter drops of deltarune

[gritty rune]

Gacha is just such a horrible monetisation model that you basically design your entire game around it, so it’s very hard to un-gacha a Gacha game

[empty kettle]

Pls let the next hint be 5* Wolf

[sullen depot]

there is still gacha if you wanna pull on the talents. some busted talents incoming

[gritty rune]

DNA tried it and it just fell apart

[shut surge]

Seeing as the only thing really tied to the gacha is the unlocking of characters and the talent tree, it should not be that hard to walk it back in this game in particular

[storm scroll]

You are taking about number 1 today bud.

[sharp talon]

if they stopped doing gacha, what would happen with older gacha characters as well

[shut surge]

maybe they'll become unlockable through quests?

[elder wing]

You both get a room and make luv

[sharp talon]

the talent tree will be unobtainable?

[neat valley]

Okay bud

[sharp talon]

ppl will want refunds if not

[shut surge]

#💭│main-chat message this is my theory about it

[gritty rune]

But we have nothing else.

The content is made around building a roster of characters, we don’t have much cosmetics because a new character comes out every month, the buildcrafting is skin deep because how restrictive it is because gacha

[elder wing]

They would never stop gacha!

[sharp talon]

thats still gacha though

[storm scroll]

I was talking about glimmer and you wanted to attempt to flex and there is nothing to flex about

[sharp talon]

i was always so confused why u can select gacha on the survey when this game is built around being a gacha

[gritty rune]

Ungacha-ing this game means rehauling the entire game lol

[neat valley]

No one was flexing but you , you came out at me with negativity from the start , I’m not sure what fantasy you’re living in

But I’m in the real world

[twilit thistle]

Yea ppl been pushing for weapon skins in a mobile game that most play in 3rd person. Essentially this is turning into another wave of f2p players making fun of whales

[sullen depot]

they arent ungacha-ing the game lol. u still have the talents to pull. they will need to add more monetizations overall. im expecting way more bundles, weapon skins, character skins, etc

[storm scroll]

I walked back then only thing I jumped on which was a Crota skin. I then read the history and told you that lol.

[sharp talon]

i dont think anyone would've believed they were removing the pinnacle system entirely before they announced it

[neat valley]

Okay good boy

[gritty rune]

But weapon skins are popular in Warframe and you barely see anything in that game

[neat valley]

Glad you realized

[storm scroll]

You are in D Rising main chat

[gritty rune]

Seriously. I can barely see my own frame sometimes in all the SFX vomit

[twilit thistle]

One game is finished, one is half baked. It’s bad comparison

[elder wing]

It was around like October tbh they mentioned it

[neat valley]

So are you

[storm scroll]

So, like me you just didn't read?

[sharp talon]

they said rework , not removal

[storm scroll]

Did I say something about the real world?

[neat valley]

You really love me bro , my #1 fan

[storm scroll]

Lol this guy

[neat valley]

I’m going to send you a shirt

[sharp talon]

What is happening with this argument lol

[sullen depot]

yah but everyone kinda saw it coming since pinnacle was the biggest bottle neck for pple originally leaving

[shut surge]

I wonder if the removal of pinnacle energy is because no oen was buying the energy pack things

[elder wing]

Rework was the little daily event that we have now. Finally they decided to fully get rid of it

[gritty rune]

I mean, DR is ‘finished’. We had a content direction that worked. This game made 11.5m on opening month

They just never worked on it since s

[sullen depot]

oh nah lots of pple still bought that lol. pple have 4k saving pinnacle and shiii

[sharp talon]

i dont think so, ik a lot with a lot of those things

[storm scroll]

I don't like anyone

[elder wing]

Nah cuz ppl were crying back in the days

[empty kettle]

People definitely bought the energy packs

[naive ingot]

Guilty....

[shut surge]

Yeah but how many players in relation to the total playerbase is what i mean

[sharp talon]

i think most whales did so

[neat valley]

I got your attention tho 😉

[sullen depot]

global launch was just an experiment. we were all guinea pigs and drip fed for the CN launch and s4 changes lul

[shut surge]

cause it would make no sense for a company to remove a source of revenue that was making a lot of profit

[empty kettle]

Global launch was more like a open beta

[shut surge]

so i wonder if the ratio of spenders to non spenders was skewed enough to make them consider removing it

[elder wing]

You surprised? Cn was always the main focus

[shut surge]

especially with a lot of players complaining about it

[storm scroll]

Are you ignoring me and I didn't notice?

[sullen depot]

oh i aint surprised. i always expected it

[gritty rune]

Idk why people are even hyprd about removing pinnacle. Pinnacle isn’t the problem.

People wouldn’t be quitting if they were hyped to log in and spend pinnacle every day

[shut surge]

it could be them trying to trade in easy revenue from whales for good will with the f2p players

[storm scroll]

Some ppl are just special

[neat valley]

I won’t ignore you anymore , can’t let my fans down what kind of person would I be

[elder wing]

They waited cn to catch to the global and now they will go all out to make cn happy which is win for us

[sharp talon]

pinnacle causes some of the matchmaking problems, its very bursty at certain times

[empty kettle]

F2p players can turn to whales or dolphins if they keep getting this type of treatment

[twilit thistle]

Yea it’s the content. Or lack of it. the quality of what exists.

[gritty rune]

Matter of fact is that people just find DR boring. Thr loot is bland and we have no endgame other that piss bottle farming

[storm scroll]

You are not good enough to have fans

[elder wing]

People asked for none pe. Be happy lmao why when it don’t matter. You get what you ask for

[sharp talon]

idk the end game is chaos artifacts i think

[sullen depot]

nah it fishing!!

[magic lichen]

you've got no motion.

[storm scroll]

Fairytale

[shut surge]

the issue with stamina systems is usually that it's what it's called a "Quit Moment" in game design. The game is explicitly telling you "You have to stop playing now" even if the player has the time to play more. As someone who only has small amount of time i can actually play with friends it is really annoying to have our 4-5 hour gaming session end 1-2 hours in because we all ran out of pinnacle energy and refuse to shell out for more

[gritty rune]

It’s not even the content, it’s endgame loot chase and progression. Or how there is none.

Like we just got a new raid and it was DoA

[twilit thistle]

Literally just said that in another sever lol facts

[shut surge]

I can see there being enough people on a similar situation where they don't want the game to tell them when to stop and complaining in the surveys

enough to make netease actually consider removing the mechanic entirely

[storm scroll]

This is a foreign agent lol. Does not play this game

[neat valley]

No need to project you’re insecurities on me bud 🤣

[magic lichen]

Get your Drift Bottle game up.

[sharp talon]

we need more instigators in this chat

[gritty rune]

Yeah, and that’s the point.

Stamina systems are there to condense the grind to cater to casuals. But the casuals aren’t coming

No one is coming

[shut surge]

you do seem to speak with a lot of authority, to quote a certain ninja. That's a good argument senator, how about you back it up with a source?

like actually do we have numbers out there publicly?

i don't imagine the devs are that transparent

[gritty rune]

Idk man, I have like 700 piss bottles in store atm, like 35k leaves + 30 pulls and a T6 Jaren.

No, I don’t play this game

[neat valley]

I have about 600 too , just waiting for the new season

[storm scroll]

Yawn. I have real number 1s and actual meaningful stuff. You do not

[gritty rune]

The source is just look at queue times.

It got so bad that GMs have bots now cos even that’s dead. Good change but it’s a sign of the state of the game

[neat valley]

Keep rambling 🤣 it’s pretty entertaining

[storm scroll]

You actually responded?

[gritty rune]

You don’t need to work at NetEase to realise the game is on the down lol

[storm scroll]

I know I have your attention because you're a fan lol

[storm scroll]

Hop off

[gritty rune]

My sincere apologies, I didn’t realise I was talking to a schizo

[neat valley]

You got upset because I was ignoring you 😭

[empty kettle]

🍿

[sullen depot]

i mean everyone knows th queues and the game state is bad. we are all waiting on s4. complaining about it now wont change much. just need to wait and see what content they drop. obvs expectations are low. them announcing a free copy of every character release is def helping casuals

[twilit thistle]

🥺 👉 👈

[gritty rune]

The heck, why

[sharp talon]

imagine if they do a 1:1 rate pe to glimmer

[sullen depot]

no one expected them to give a copy of a characters for free but now here we are. just gotta keep waiting to see what they annoucne as days go on

[stark forge]

all the glimmer potential in morgran with this

[elder wing]

All I see is 4760 Glimmer

[gritty rune]

We need like, loot to chase basically

[storm scroll]

That because of keys. Not many doing that for fun

[storm scroll]

Real.

[twilit thistle]

I mean they are still selling it. I kinda wanna know what happens to pandoras deals. 🤔

[storm scroll]

Im literally just talking to talk so yes

[sullen depot]

she goes back in her pandora box lol

[neat valley]

Bros off the meds fr

[shut surge]

I do see there are a lot of queue times, i myself have been (Fruitlessly) trying to grind Gauntlet Ops for Jotun and it takes me like upwards of 5 minutes on a bad day to queue... But like. You know a game where i've had 30+ minute queues for hot endgame activities? FFXIV. A game that is absolutely pulling in numbers. Queue times are not the end-all be-all for determining how many players are playing the game! What we need is an actual statistic from the dev imo

[neat valley]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-them-mr-krabs-squidward-spongebob-meme-gif-794152241042277714

[storm scroll]

Im your case i was serious.

[twilit thistle]

@vast arch do you want to run bulark today?

[neat valley]

Go off 🤣

Let it all out we’re here for you

[shut surge]

It is indicative that a specific mode may not be as popular tho, i wonder what are the more popular modes with the lowest queue times

[gritty rune]

I mean, socials are empty, revenues have been falling since launch, queues are getting longer and longer and idk, what could possibly indicate a high playerbase despite all this

Unless people are just all AFKing doing nothing in game

[sharp talon]

this game definitely doesnt have a high player base

[gritty rune]

The scary thing is that the bleed isn’t stopping

[shut surge]

I don't think the game is dying myself, but i do think it's not nearly as big of a userbase as Destiny 2 during its peak

[magic lichen]

calling me out?

[gritty rune]

I do think it’s dying at this rate lol.

[neat valley]

If you look at their social media stats they barley get any interactions with their posts

[sullen depot]

marketting is in the gutter lol

[magic lichen]

my drift bottles have more motion than destiny rising.

[gritty rune]

But look at those YouTube view count-

Oh wait that’s botted

[shut surge]

It would not be surprising, tho, if the removal of pinnacle energy and making the base characters free to obtain without gacha is building up to some kind of re-launch or big update to try to draw in new players

[empty kettle]

They better start marketing the game hard for s4 after the s4 reveal trailer of course

[shut surge]

it would be a really effective way to draw core gamers that play more seriously. Since Gacha and Stamina systems are a very mobile-game thing that most people dislike

[sullen depot]

thats the point. for now pple are only going to keep complaining until it happens. doomers gonna doom

[sharp talon]

why would they revamp new light experience ( according to roadmap) if they weren't going to market the game in s4?

[gritty rune]

I know I’m a cynical guy but like, the chances of NetEase doing a big push for DR of all games is practically not happening

[twilit thistle]

These finna be worth more than pinnacle

[neat valley]

I mean we have seen many games come out the gutter , this is pretty much their only chance to do it

[gritty rune]

I have not seen any gacha games come out of the gutter

[neat valley]

Well they are changing main gacha elements

[gritty rune]

Ok, there’s snowbreak but idk if we want to go that route

[neat valley]

This is something new

So it’s going to be interesting for sure

[shut surge]

I feel like you may be seeing this from the wrong angle. As someone who has watched many a video essays on online services that die off. When a live service starts to die they don't become more generous (No stamina/no gacha) they get more aggressive in thier monetization so they can milk the remaining players until the game dies

[bitter estuary]

balls

[neat valley]

Yes

[shut surge]

it would be very counter-productive if they take this dying game, then just begin to make it more free instead of trying to milk the whales for all they're worth

[neat valley]

Big balls

[shut surge]

I think that's a hint that they're not 100% done with the game yet

[sullen depot]

xix all ur points are valid but its just a wait and see. like we are basically talking about something everyone already agrees with in the current state of the game. its good to have low expectations no doubt

[elder wing]

Of course not! We just starting

[neat valley]

Bros like they aren’t fooling me again 🤣

@gritty rune

[gritty rune]

But that’s kind of what happens to gachas that’s sunsetting though. They ease off the monetisation, give things for free so they don’t get as much hate and a ton of chargebacks when EoS is announced

[empty kettle]

If s4 hits hard then it's just some smooth and rough sailing onwards

[gritty rune]

See: Dragalia Lost on its way to EoS

[bitter estuary]

nintendo
animal crossing: pocket camp was also like that

[golden spade]

Nice analysis. Thanks for sharing your points. It does make sense and I hope they are not done with the game

[empty kettle]

What game is that?

[elder wing]

Eos aint coming anytime soon! You can breathe now

[gritty rune]

Dragalia Lost EoS actually hit me in the guts lol

[bitter estuary]

nintendo ip, its a portrait mode arpg game

[neat valley]

Next thing we need is a free 500 silver for being loyal

[gritty rune]

Some of the most fun co-op fights on mobile

[storm scroll]

No just negative Nancy w no solutions like everyone else

[shut surge]

Note, my POV is from someone who has looked mostly into MMOs! Idk if gacha games have different rules but in the MMO space, the moment a game begins to die, the monetization gets worse to milk the whales until EoS

[neat valley]

They give free cosmetic currency in marvel rivals , they can definitely do it for this game

[twilit thistle]

Tbh with marathons future it would tarnish the destiny ip if this one also ends service. There is a potential that we get stuck in purgatory, where it just keeps going and gets no updates lmao

[empty kettle]

Oh, it's fate was decided

[sharp talon]

i mean the game launching great with positive reception shows there's a spot for it in the market, i think netease realizes that

[gritty rune]

I mean, I did say what the problem imo is. We need loot to chase

[bitter estuary]

they didn't promote it as well as FES, so that's more salt to the wound

[sullen depot]

for real. like we all know how the game is. repeating the same old same old. just wai till s4

[storm scroll]

It's way deeper. I agreed with that point already.

[gritty rune]

I don’t think most D2 players care about DR lol

[twilit thistle]

The ones that dont play d2 wont know its not made by bungie.

[neat valley]

I think marathon could stick around, didn’t Destiny 2 launch with terrible numbers as well?

[golden spade]

Still thanks for sharing. I mean they are putting all this effort into a rework and calling it a new launch so that has to mean they are invested

[shut surge]

i got into DR BECAUSE of my D2 playing friends lmao

[gritty rune]

I mean, do Diablo players care much about what happens to Diablo Immortal?

[bitter estuary]

i got into d:r because i was bored and anime gacha games were getting on my nerves

[empty kettle]

Every destiny game starts off successful then stumble for a bit before getting their footing

[twilit thistle]

There is something else approaching. ||GTA-6||

[storm scroll]

As if that's a large number of players. I disagree, but that wouldn't move the needle much atp. That game is closer to death than this one lol

[gritty rune]

I got into DR cos there’s like no FPS on mobile that isn’t dead

[neat valley]

Truee

[bitter estuary]

counterargument: netease has ananta

netease copies everything

😂

[neat valley]

It’s just hard to really expect it since , they always delay it

[sharp talon]

codm i guess?

[bitter estuary]

sea of thieves gacha game

[gritty rune]

Anata is a concept of a game at this stage lol

The combat system had changed like 2 times now?

[magic lichen]

pokemon has pvp. go play it.

[gritty rune]

Errr PvE FPSs

[neat valley]

They also might wait for project helix to come out , which is the new Xbox

[sullen depot]

i thought xbox stopped making consoles and are going full AI

[gritty rune]

Errr what do Destiny players play if not D2

[bitter estuary]

because they want to distance themselves from nte

[thorny frost]

When that actually releases the meme community will shed a tear.

[neat valley]

Project helix is their new upcoming thing

[gritty rune]

Is D1 still a thing?

[bitter estuary]

quit the game or play the division 2

[empty kettle]

Just for someone to trigger a extinction level event

[gritty rune]

I thought the pvp players all went to marathon

[empty kettle]

Yes

Alive and breathing

[gritty rune]

Damn

[signal spade]

Easier to find raid groups in d1