💭│main-chat

[signal spade]

I mean guns can be good while characters are stinky

[neat valley]

That’s just facts

[thorny pawn]

Oh thank god

[remote flame]

i cleared the first expanse 30 with her and was top 50 before most people could finish it with the appropriate character. it was solar rapid fire

[signal spade]

And good characters can make bad guns seem good

[stark forge]

sometimes i want to shoot ammo brick but aim assist pull my reticle away 😭

[remote flame]

like just because you don’t play her doesn’t mean she’s not good

[neat valley]

If you had a t6 helhest you would not be playing attal

No one would

[remote flame]

i do lmao

[south oracle]

Yo I need a t5/t6 helhest for calamity ops to push into master 1/2. Im 76k ning 75.2k wolf

[remote flame]

i have everyone, i play who i like

[neat valley]

that fine

But doesn’t mean she’s good

[remote flame]

she is though

[remote flame]

take me with you to do anything 💀 bet

[neat valley]

Never seen any attal on any leaderboard

[remote flame]

i have

[neat valley]

But shifting

[remote flame]

it was me

[tight talon]

You enjoy Attal or you cope about every broken character being nice

[neat valley]

you know what

[remote flame]

add me i’ll prove you wrong

[neat valley]

Attal is the best

[remote flame]

talk is cheap

[signal spade]

Attal would be a sick raid character if they'd let us use our talent points in raid

How do we not have a hard version of the raid that lets us use our full build actually

[remote flame]

💪😘

[signal spade]

Idc about day one but like where's the operation cordon scaled raid

[neat valley]

Note to self , never go at the Attal players

[remote flame]

😌💅

[wintry flame]

It’s dead. The Iron Games event, I’ve sat for 15 mins and still only 9/12 players..🤣

[signal spade]

Youre getting bots tomorrow fear not

[remote flame]

ooooo bots

[signal spade]

They know they don't need to impress the people still playing because if they're still playing they are already so deeply brain rotted they'll play no matter how bad it gets

So hopefully they're sending their entire budget they didn't use the last 5 months into this s4 launch

[neat valley]

I’ve been letting pinnacle go to waste so much this past month

[tight talon]

Actually yeah, wondering how HH T6 users are gonna stay alive if everything they breathe at to kill suddenly don't die and require persistent self healing to survive

[signal spade]

I have no characters left to upgrade or exotics worth upgrading

[neat valley]

Helhest can heal too

You can change your build easy

[tight talon]

Never said no

[neat valley]

With artifacts

[tight talon]

Need to know how much we can push self heals before DPS loss starts kicking in

[twilit thistle]

Attal with my tankhest build was lwk cracked ngl

[neat valley]

Lucy has a tankhest build

Bros already cooking

[signal spade]

Make a modifier on mobs that makes them untargettable by the auto aim assist abilities

[neat valley]

The auto aim for helhest is broken

[signal spade]

Then watch how not crazy hh is when you have to deal with QB recoil and hitboxes and actually moving your hand

[neat valley]

I shoot in a general direction and everything gets wiped , and if you’re already a pristine aim person , it’s even more op

I use to play umeko and land every headshot

[signal spade]

The fact it lets you headshot stuff that is looking away from you is insane behavior

[neat valley]

Nothing will change for me

[neat valley]

Even stuff behind walls

If you have salvo

Sometimes I’m trying to kill a enemy but the auto lock just kills everything around me but the enemy I was aiming at

[signal spade]

Maybe they'll send out a survey on s4 launch for 500 leaves and it'll just be the word helhest and 'nerf' 'delete' 'keep as is'

And when it's 95 percent delete or nerf we get the forbidden patch note

[tight talon]

Gonna be a second wave of doomposting and review bombing when that happens

[sharp talon]

just make mythic wolf have all of helhests abilities and weapons, no helhest nerf needed 🤣

[signal spade]

Id start a coalition to counter the review bomb

We can unionize

[south oracle]

any t6 ikora or helhest for calamity ops? 76k ning 75k wolf here.

[remote flame]

i’ll carry you on attal dw, you don’t need i-bore-a or hel-lessthanattal

inv

[neat valley]

i hope they do nerf helhest, i def already got my moneys worth of her, im getting sick of always having to play her since shes so op

[south oracle]

name

[remote flame]

aliyumi :3

[neat valley]

i need the attal carry too

[twilit thistle]

Umeko buff when

[golden spade]

Yes, that's true. You mean when u pop salvo? But you know i love it when I pull of the calamity glitch and clean the room. It still takes skill as you can miss

[neat valley]

yes her salvo ability is what does it@golden spade

[golden spade]

Yeah I know copy Ninja

[neat valley]

yeah its easy to miss, but depending on what content you're playing, most enemies spawn in the same spots, so if you play enough you can get used to the areas where they are and aiming can just become muscle memory

[golden spade]

I play her, T6 and i got into overseer but might drop off by tmrw

But I get what you're saying. No point upgrading tan 2 or Umeko

[neat valley]

umeko is good for other content

[golden spade]

For me at least, cause materials are too expensive

[neat valley]

like raids and stuff

[golden spade]

So is hellhest 😂

[remote flame]

are you sure someone else isn't lower than me? i didn't get rank either

[remote flame]

i gotchu, i got mvp

[golden spade]

You're the goat Lucyfer. I mean how? Do you use exotic mods on all weapons or also mythical mods?

[remote flame]

ig i did get rank, it just bugged, sorry i forgot about checking ranks

[south oracle]

it says ur expert 1? same as me. idk why it didn't count for any of us

[remote flame]

really??

that's so strange

[south oracle]

oh if u got rank then we're good

it only gives rank to the lowest person

but we didn't get anything, are u down to run again?

[golden spade]

It should rank for one of your fireteam members

[remote flame]

yeah but you just said we're the same rank?

[south oracle]

yes now we are

[remote flame]

yeah i can go again for sure

[golden spade]

Maybe ure third is lower ranked

[neat valley]

@remote flame 1v1 me in the card game

[remote flame]

okay after lmao

[twilit thistle]

Thats just from this bc i got tried of explaining that i have literally nothing to do atm. Atp I am building 2nd and 3rd sets of artifacts for everyone. Got umekos godroll set. Got Helhest godroll set. Built ning, kabr, tan, ikora, etc. Everything. I did everything.

[neat valley]

i know what you didnt do @twilit thistle

1v1 me in cards

[dusty spire]

6 left I don’t like your 😂😋

Hoping I’ve completed the freemium ones by S4 :/

Only interested in the furies 3 that thing is serious on Kabr 1.0

[south oracle]

did u get rank ali

[remote flame]

no rank for me, relegation zone expert 1

[hard forge]

What element is efrideet going to be anyone know

[elder wing]

Arc

[south oracle]

how many attempts u have ali

[remote flame]

i messaged you

[neat valley]

starting beef with cards 😂

who wants to 1v1 me

[dusty spire]

So are we definitely getting her ? 😫😂

[remote flame]

check discord dms

[neat valley]

lvl 20 cards wiped the board against lvl 35

then the next was a draw

[golden spade]

Oh wow. Just don't burn your self out.

[neat valley]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-reece-simpson-kayode-ewumi-roll-safe-meme-gif-17305682

nah lucyfer will never be burnt out. Hes just getting warmed up

[dusty spire]

Ngl wish I had that type of energy

[neat valley]

i dont even play cards 😂

[south oracle]

Any t6 ikor or helhest for calamity ops por favor?

im 76k ning or 75k wolf

[twilit thistle]

I had an EMEA alt for the long q times 😭 and that one is gonna be in the same boat soon. Just hit lvl 100 on bulwark, again.

[twilit thistle]

Something tells me u don’t want to 1v1 me in cards. Do u know what Jaren+Umeko does?

[neat valley]

they tried it against me

it didnt work @twilit thistle

that was the draw match

[bitter estuary]

Balls

[neat valley]

https://tenor.com/view/too-easy-sketch-it-was-easy-games-was-so-easy-easy-game-gif-19684120

[bitter estuary]

any1 clamops master 1 pwease?

[signal spade]

Jaren umeko ruined the already dead card game

But just put a sneaky fallen ketch in your deck to deal with jaren ezpz

[exotic sinew]

Just started grubbing on Five Guys, and ima take my time

[neat valley]

i got the heart of the cards@signal spade

[exotic sinew]

Good luck

[neat valley]

no one can beat me

[exotic sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/yu-gi-oh-time-to-duel-card-gif-12403495

[bitter estuary]

balls

that's true

[neat valley]

bro tried it against me but forgot i believed in my deck

[neat valley]

https://tenor.com/view/you-just-lost-the-game-dark-yugi-yami-yugi-yugioh-yu-gi-oh-gif-12696882757162262698

[signal spade]

Need more just in case

[neat valley]

im going to send you to the shadow realm @signal spade

[signal spade]

I have time for one before I leave work

[neat valley]

whats ur ingame name@signal spade

[exotic sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-anime-omg-wtf-cant-unsee-gif-5159766

[neat valley]

im going to send you to work early

[exotic sinew]

Oh now you gotta livestream the duel

[twilit thistle]

They didn’t play it right. I will gladly show you the anti-ikora but also using an ikora deck in 45 mins

[signal spade]

It's just flame

[exotic sinew]

Show us you cooking him

Can you cook the flame?

[neat valley]

on NA?

[exotic sinew]

Can flames be cooked

[neat valley]

all or nothing

we are putting a pink slip on our accounts

whoever wins gets the account

[exotic sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

Let the games begin

[neat valley]

hes scared

[exotic sinew]

Why is Vin Diesel a short dude in a stripper cage

I’m too high for this

[neat valley]

bro cooked me

[signal spade]

I'll let you redeem yourself when I get home but I'm pretty sure I've matched you a bunch just randomly

[neat valley]

i havent played cards in months tbh lmao

thats why im only lvl 23

[signal spade]

Oh maybe not then xuan wei is I think like an s tier card but everyone's ikora pilled

[neat valley]

i didnt get any of the cards i needed

the heart of the cards didnt work

[signal spade]

Ya I also think going first is also a massive buff

Is tomorrow legendary campaign or is there actually a new thing where you can redo the full story

[neat valley]

I hope it’s actually a whole redo

So I can remember the story before the new season

And get really good rewards for doing it

[exotic sinew]

What does it do

[signal spade]

It's a 6 3 that does 5 damage and displaces

So it kinda hard counters cabal straight up and can just be really annoying

[drowsy cypress]

soon 7dso release, at least good thing to play till s4

and, if s4 fails, after

[twilit thistle]

I still havent maxed out my lvl tbh. The new cards are buggy af, and its the same meta. I have 1100 tokens too, which doesn't help.

[exotic apex]

Hi

[somber umbra]

How do I use this server for lfging? I see the channel and can make posts, but how do you get people from this server to join your fireteam? I've only used the in-game fireteam finder.

[cyan tide]

You create a fireteam code and send it to them or just look up their in-game profile and invite them

[exotic apex]

Yup

[somber umbra]

Thanks, I found where to generate a fireteam code, but didn't see a way to type someone's in-game profile to invite them, unless, is it the big white plus sign on the bottom-right of messages?

[exotic apex]

Yes

[twilit thistle]

Its calamity ops ragequit night. Yay. Nothing like waiting 2 mins for someone to ragequit.

[cyan tide]

That's to add chat channels, to find people you have to go to contacts (tab right below messages)

[twilit thistle]

Back to back mid run disconnects.

[candid phoenix]

i saw ur post but it was expired, what rank are you in

[twilit thistle]

Expert 2 purgatory.

[twilit thistle]

😭

[candid phoenix]

i can join for a few rounds

i got to unchanged M2 so i'm just gonna chill there

[rotund flame]

Same except it's worse because people leave when they see i don't have a t6 character 😭

[signal spade]

ikora doin no dam

[rotund flame]

Is this the best roll for a hair ikora artifact?

[signal spade]

yer

[candid phoenix]

yeah think so

[obtuse chasm]

Yessir nice roll

[rotund flame]

Dang , need to work on my slot 3 artifact then. It looks nothing like this. Only 2 thumbs up on it

[obtuse chasm]

I had to use 3 dice before I got an artifact like that for my hairkora 😭

[rotund flame]

I wasted my free dice on my estela and got nothing to show for it 💀

[candid phoenix]

nvm i gtg

if u have attempts later i'll be back

[sour holly]

Hi

[worldly jungle]

So after you got a T6 character already and max everything (skills, artifacts and etc) what next ?

[cyan tide]

T6 the next character

[worldly jungle]

Nah what I need is more content like dungeons and stuff

[cyan tide]

Then take a break until next season

[worldly jungle]

But is there any news or anything about new dungeons releasing in next update stuff like that or no news at all?

[stark forge]

next season new map and open world area

[indigo jewel]

Do you know what level you have to be to start matching with people lvl 30+

[cyan tide]

New patrol area, new main campaign, new strikes/blitz maps, new onslaught

[twilit thistle]

I gave up when I was matched with a 59k Rossi. Not worth it.

[candid phoenix]

Oh yeah that’s rough

[cyan tide]

If there's no one near your level you'll get matched with anyone that's queuing or bots if you don't find a match in 30 seconds

[lapis swallow]

Lol. Found this scrolling. Same can be said on DRising but it's also stale. 🥀

[twilit thistle]

I think netease needs to rework calamity tbh. Tired of getting told I have skill issues by ppl who have been running it since s1 with a premade fireteam and HH. I’m tired of people crashing out over it bc the other fireteams HH was faster.

[frank plinth]

If you need help I can do some runs with you, but normal runs I don't go for tryhards anymore.

[cyan tide]

Cal ops but it's blitz and you have to do it solo

[rocky glacier]

What are Phantoms, I haven't seen them much and know very little about them? (I only watch gameplay, I sadly don't play myself)

[twilit thistle]

Your idea was exactly what I hesitated to say and deleted numerous times. Fair play modifier too so HH is t0 🥹💙

[stark forge]

just add spike shell to cal ops

[neat valley]

Those were duels , they requested to challenge me , but I’m pretty sure it just tries to match you against similar level players

[twilit thistle]

1v1 when 😤

It’s SBMM btw, unless they removed it

[haughty mist]

Question if someone has an answer, how many High value bounties is refreshed daily?

[signal spade]

4

[twilit thistle]

U don’t have to do them all today.

[haughty mist]

I was asking for numbers, I need 75 more high value bounties and my board is empty, I can’t gild S3’s seal now

[last matrix]

any new updates on a potential port to pc?

[oak kettle]

If you mean the ones that give leaves, you get 4 per day that can be rerolled once each

Common bounties I have no clue off the top of my head how many you get per day, I think 20? Enough to max out the meter for weekly bounties in one day but not much more

[haughty mist]

Was asking in regard to a Gilding triumph for S3's seal, I cant gild because Im short on High values

[twilit thistle]

Towards the end of the season they usually drop the requirements

[oak kettle]

We’ve got like 2 weeks left of the season right?

That’s only 56 so yeah you’re gonna have to hope they drop the requirements

[haughty mist]

Yeah, I need 75 High Value bounties to gild, even if i do 4 bounties a day, thats short of the requirement

[oak kettle]

That is the consequence of not playing daily I suppose

[haughty mist]

I hate these daily commitment triumphs, This season was bad for me cause my previous clan dissolved.

Had no reason to get on, and I DIDNT EVEN KNOW THAT THE GILDING TRIUMPH WAS ONE OF THESE

[oak kettle]

Eh, just logging in for like 30 minutes a day isnt too big of a commitment for me

And the reward is a third of a pull for doing so from just those bounties, not even including pin energy

[oak temple]

Not sure if I can survive till the next update. The thirst has been too much.

[lament rover]

I haven’t played in a while and when I logged in via Apple I dont see my old account how do I get it back

[trail fractal]

Its good right now just annoying tht there is not enough maps to cycle for it to be enjoyable for end game

[karmic ore]

you don’t know what you are talking about

[prisma pond]

Did you ever bind your acc to anything or was it a guest acc?

[somber umbra]

On Mythic Weapons, is it the case that there's no point on holding onto any that do not have both perks Mythic? I know some of the Legendary perks are good, but when it comes to putting on Exotic mods, no Exotic mods pair with Legendary perks, right? So I should only be keeping Mythic weapons with double Mythic perks?

[delicate mango]

Are you aiming for groll

Because I usually keep 1 or 2 that weren't groll in case I want to test them

[somber umbra]

Nah that's not what I'm asking, recommended or god roll perks have nothing to do with it.

Oftentimes the recommend perks aren't the best, some require full fireteams doing certain things which are really situational. Target Lock is great and it's only a Legendary perk.

[restive ruin]

for pvp there are better combos than mythic, for pve I've only got 1 gun that ive saved that is a purple roll with a mythic

generally though the 500 power difference just makes mythic perks better to have anyways

[delicate mango]

Ah is see

sorry I thought you were aiming for groll

[rotund flame]

I swear only way out of expert 2 is with a t6 helhest lol

This helhest absolutely carried me this calamity, even with him clearing rooms in seconds we still could hit the next rank. How fast do you got to be 💀

[candid phoenix]

Promo zone #1 is diabolical

[oak kettle]

It’s just this particular strike, theres just something about it that makes it much harder than the rest for calops ranks ups

I never really have an issue getting promotion zone or at least high unchanged in calops random matchmaking but nexus I’m normally scraping to get unchanged. Did a bit better this time cus of t6 prepatch hairkora but the principle is the same

The strike is just long, theres a lot of non-combat traversal that adds up and it leads to the scores being worse for the strike, especially if you aren’t absolutely booking it

I think the lower scores probably mess with the threshold adjustments a fair bit and that leads to people not ranking up when on other strikes a similar performance would do so

[obtuse chasm]

Where can I look up the season 1 exotics? Going for the triumph and just gunna redo 1k on each but can’t remember which ones were s1

[indigo solar]

The only non-mythic perks worth hanging onto to my knowledge are a pachinko roll on Tsurinobuse, ideally with auto loading holster or clown cartridge for Maru spam, high impact reserves on a spino Niaatiks for PvP, timed detonation on hon2 for interesting Ikora stuff and a deadly warrant roll of the legendary sniper A19 "Argali" for PvP

[indigo solar]

We're still in exotic series 1, it's all of them right now

[obtuse chasm]

Bet, thank you

[indigo solar]

For future reference, ghost menu > acclaim > armory > exotic series I

[obtuse chasm]

Ah wasn’t aware acclaim showed the series I normally just claimed my rewards from it and backed out of it

Thank you

[lapis swallow]

The game and it's matchmaking is so dead they're forced to add bots 🥀

What's next, bots matchmaking on normal Crota's?

[dusty spire]

It’s ok

It’s because iron games have no long term incentive for the duration of the event so most players get what they want and finish

[dusty spire]

We save keys now right for S4?
And also do they over flow ?

[bitter estuary]

please that'd make mod grind much less tedious 😭

[sharp talon]

btw do u still need to be in unchanged? can run rn if u want

[bitter estuary]

no i just did a run with rayy and slayer

i hope i stay in promo

398k should be more than enough to go to master 2 lmao

[sharp talon]

oh definitely

overseer is like 401k or something earlier i saw

theyre doing maintenance an hour earlier than usual?

damn itt

[glad valve]

No wonder why I was kicked out of the game. Maintenance

[bitter estuary]

yeah log in again in 1~2 hours

[lapis swallow]

New event as well lol

[glad valve]

Do you know when the new story starts?

[bitter estuary]

which one, campaign or the teaser?

[remote grove]

S4 starts in 2 weeks

[lapis swallow]

They're bringing back GM difficulty in Leggy Challenge, idk what will be changed though

[sharp talon]

event rewards

[glad valve]

Thank you that’s when the new story campaign comes thanks

[lapis swallow]

I just want photons

[sharp talon]

ye they said leaves, photons, and cores in event rewards

[lapis swallow]

I'm on my driest drought rn that I got a photon drop after 3 months 🥀

[remote grove]

Hopefully higher photom chances helps me out with my miserable rng trying to drop one the last couple weeks

[glad valve]

I need Gwynn

She has dual pistols

[naive ingot]

No, you don't 😂

[glad valve]

Oh I do. She’s Bad *ss

[remote grove]

XD

[naive ingot]

Powercrept to the shadow realm now... And I'm a Gwynn main. Brute forcing through everything

[quartz vector]

People still play this game?

[remote grove]

No

[glad valve]

That’s why I need her. To plow through everything in my path

[dusty spire]

We just hang around talking about it

[naive ingot]

That's T6 Helhest 😂

[remote grove]

Endgame is literally discord chat/ casual chat

[dusty spire]

Kinda leaning that way ngl

[glad valve]

I got Tan-2 the other day he’s meh

[naive ingot]

It is during maintenance 😂

[dusty spire]

Just need to link triumphs to discord

And we good to go

[dusty spire]

Maintenance is discord raid

[lapis swallow]

I already have tons of these rotting in my inventory, I rather have them converted to photons if they don't have uses anymore.

[remote grove]

I have most. Haven't even started conquerer tho

[glad valve]

What’s the best mode to farm

[dusty spire]

Legendary campaign

[lapis swallow]

Real, server gets revived when there's maintenance lol

[glad valve]

Is that legendary hard?

[lapis swallow]

Nah, just DPS check

[remote grove]

I have loads of materials sitting around just to hit max acclaim next banner

[naive ingot]

I'll be back in Chaos after maintenance/getting home. And Expanse

[dusty spire]

Legendary campaign increases Weapon pool power.

Chaos increase hero pool power.

[glad valve]

That’s where I was till I got kicked

[dusty spire]

No really, just like the other member said it’s more a power check

[lapis swallow]

At least your pinnacle aren't used which is a good thing whenever you are doing your runs and you got kicked out

[glad valve]

That’s what I need hero and weapon power I’m getting there iamReal

I’m learning slowly

[sharp talon]

i hope its harder this time, last gm legendary campaign was a snooze fest

[obtuse chasm]

I’m going insane after doing chaos for a month and not getting a single roll that I want for my hairy ikora

[lapis swallow]

I rather have better rewards

Or guaranteed photon drop on GM campaign

[glad valve]

Oh dear that’s crazy

[dusty spire]

Keep going, progress over time and feel free to ask questions when ever. We are a family here 😬

As much as you hear us complain it’s all love.

And also just a heads up we have something called EOS doomers, try to avoid entertaining them lol

[obtuse chasm]

Spend all my pinnacle in 30 mins tops and bored out of my mind the rest of the day 😭

[lapis swallow]

I still have so many exotics still stuck from max all because photon drops are stingy

[obtuse chasm]

I want my artifacts already so I can farm something that’s less of a snooze fest

[dusty spire]

EOS doomers are like EOTW doomers

[sharp talon]

most of my playtime is on expanse then second to calamity on this game 💀

[glad valve]

This game is different from Destiny 2 and I play like it’s Destiny 2 and I need stop doing that

[sharp talon]

without expanse, game has nothing to do

[lapis swallow]

Eh, it's normal on every game underperforming and devs barely do anything to improve the game. If this game ever goes down, I still have The Division:Resurgence and Warframe Mobile

[glad valve]

I know right Pinnacle energy is overrated

[obtuse chasm]

Same I’m going insane

[dusty spire]

It uses the assets types from D2 but it’s definitely a copy not a port

[dusty spire]

I know this but as I’ve said before until the wheels fall off 😅

[glad valve]

I’ve got 2 characters at 50k. Got more to go yet

[dusty spire]

I only see this as my digital collection game

As it should be

[sharp talon]

expanse is fun, i wish it reset weekly

[dusty spire]

I don’t go looking for more than 1 hour play here

[sharp talon]

they hsould do 3 expanses at once as well

[gritty rune]

This game would have been much better handled by a smaller studio instead of NetEase

[dusty spire]

And the raid was a very well done extension to the usual play time

[lapis swallow]

If they still fail on S4, game will be basically on life support until death, which surprisingly I have accepted it, it's a Netease game, they always do that

[glad valve]

I did my first Crota clear on Rising yesterday I’m proud

[gritty rune]

NetEase is far too big to care much about it

[dusty spire]

But sitting on the phone for 1-2 hours of activities a day will feel overwhelming imo

For a gacha

[obtuse chasm]

I feel like that’s debatable to an extent, we do have a decent amount of content and at least the game doesn’t look like Roblox

[gritty rune]

And tbh NetEase just doesn’t see mobile games as anything more than a cashgrab anyways

[obtuse chasm]

A smaller studio I feel wouldn’t have had the capacity to make a game like dr

[dusty spire]

So long we got a decent activity loop I’m ok which is definitely something can improve on

[glad valve]

NetEase is successful

[lapis swallow]

Let's be real, people still play this game from the start until now is on sunk cost, unable to leave since they already done so much time and money to the game, still having hopes Netease ever listens and revives the game

[golden spade]

Bro. Slayerfeild? He was so kind and helpful. Ran with me and my friend for an hour and my friend and I messed up a lot

Very patient and kind guy. Missed overseer by like a 1000 points

[glad valve]

What’s overseer?

[obtuse chasm]

Calamity rank

[bitter estuary]

WRONG REACTION yeah he's really good

[glad valve]

What does it do?

[gritty rune]

The new content is mostly just rehashes of existing content.

The only genuinely new stuff is the raid and …. That lasted like 1 week cos the loot is not there

[obtuse chasm]

Looks cool and better rewards

[bitter estuary]

because gacha games do it?

[glad valve]

I was in calamity yesterday for the first run I might do more

[bitter estuary]

like its the norm, but yeah it should not be like this

[gritty rune]

DR itself isn’t really something grand in scale that a smaller studio can’t do anyways

[gritty rune]

Yeah, but that’s gacha games from smaller studios

[glad valve]

I love Destiny Rising

[obtuse chasm]

And a smaller studio would’ve struggled even doing that… you can hate netease all you want, but saying a smaller studio could’ve competed with netease in terms of making dr is ludicrous.

[gritty rune]

The big gachas like WuWa or Genshin make new content on a regular basis

[golden spade]

Oh I totally understand. It took me 3 weeks and then i got the artifacts for hellhest. I don't want to do that for HairIkora

[lapis swallow]

Not every gacha games mind you, but the bad ones do

[gritty rune]

I mean, we’ve got the same kind of content as something like snowbreak at this point so nah

[obtuse chasm]

If we’re being completely honest we have plenty of content it’s just that the content has been out for so long and the rewards aren’t worth it for some

[golden spade]

Bro he's amazing. He sent us YouTubes after and gave us tips. Used his runs to leave. We just couldn't do it. I fumbled a lot 😭

[bitter estuary]

gacha games tend to have better rewards so as mediocre as the events are i'd still play it for them pulls

otherwise most of it is wack

[obtuse chasm]

Do we need new content? Yes, but the game is by no means empty in terms of content

[tight talon]

Better split content between mindrot lootgrab vs genuine character stress test.

We don't have the second half at all.

[gritty rune]

We’ve basically gotten no real new content besides the raid since S1

Everything since has been rehashes of what’s already there

[lapis swallow]

Most notorious examples are Hoyo games, like Genshin and HSR for recycled content, ZZZ is fresh but that game is just struggling both financially and not getting enough focus. Other gachas in the market are just 2D splash art or just turn-based modes/auto-play mechanics to have an actual gameplay

[obtuse chasm]

You’re right, but that wasn’t my point. As I said we need new content but that doesn’t mean there is no content

[golden spade]

Overseer is the highest rank in calamity. If you just started enjoy calamity and just play. Don't sweat it

It gets really hard and complicated later (best teams use mechanics/glitches etc that you need time to learn)

[gritty rune]

Heck, we don’t even get new loot to chase for some reason. Crota raid has … 1 new exotic?

[lapis swallow]

People run it for mod farming, but you can't even run it if matchmaking barely exists

I rather have them do bots on normal mode

[bitter estuary]

ppl run it because of exotic mods but its a crappy grind

challenge doesnt grant you more

your rates go from 7% to 11%

[lapis swallow]

I rather do iron commander, less hassle. If I don't get lucky on mods, eh who cares. It's not like I've wasted my time waiting for a match in Crota's end

[gritty rune]

Yeah if you’re a new player there is content but as a vet even if you just wanted to run stuff for fun we’ve basically exhausted the replayability factor in everything

And again, I don’t see why a smaller studio couldn’t have pumped this out.

And this game was probably made by a small team anyways

[obtuse chasm]

Again that wasn’t my point and I agree with the fact that for vets there is no content worth doing

[lapis swallow]

The only replayable modes in this game are those you can run solo, any mode that requires a team, good luck finding one in matchmaking

[obtuse chasm]

Budget

[gritty rune]

NetEase certainly didn’t put the same scale as where winds meets on DR

[gritty rune]

This game looks high budget?

[obtuse chasm]

Can you name one game with the level of graphics, movement, and fluidity of dr on mobile? That’s not made by netease

[upper bronze]

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[sharp talon]

their small team is talented ig lol

[lapis swallow]

Tbf, they purchased the IP on a hefty price and never did marketing lol, they're bleeding money on this game but who cares, Where Winds Meet and Marvel Rivals continues to fund them

[obtuse chasm]

Also as hachimi stated I’m sure the IP wasn’t cheap

A smaller company would not have been able to make dr

[lapis swallow]

You have to spend millions to use the IP of a game from another company

[toxic edge]

Midtiny Rising and Midtiny 2

[gritty rune]

Honkai 3rd was like a decade old and still looks great, has fluid combat and hoyo was genuinely a small studio at the time

[lapis swallow]

Otherwise they will be slapped with copyright or trademark suits

[gritty rune]

If you want shooters, I like shadowgun legends but that game is dead

[lapis swallow]

You know it's funny nowadays that Warframe gets increased activity with refugees from Destiny 😂

[lapis swallow]

Warframe

[gritty rune]

The £100m was not for buying the IP, it was an investment into bungie

[toxic edge]

As much as I like D2 more than Warframe, its no-brainer which one is better and treats the players better

[obtuse chasm]

Mobile is more recent for de I wouldn’t use them as an example, love warframe tho

[lapis swallow]

13 years and the game is alive, they care much about their players over profit

[obtuse chasm]

Mirage main few

[toxic edge]

Thats a bomb

[gritty rune]

And tbh it’s not like DR really capitalises on Destiny’s IP

[toxic edge]

It does?????

[gritty rune]

The visual design direction and storytelling are both pretty different

[lapis swallow]

They already have 2 years on iOS, it was just recently with the timing of their 13th anniversary they launched it on Android

[obtuse chasm]

I hate netease just as much as the next person, but a smaller company could not have made dr to the extent that netease has

[gritty rune]

Again, how?

[toxic edge]

Budget

[obtuse chasm]

I’ve stated how multiple times

[gritty rune]

Kuro, Hoyo, and plenty of small studios made games that looked high quality and played fluidly

[tough escarp]

Will they adjust server time for daylight savings?

[obtuse chasm]

They already did I’m pretty sure

[gritty rune]

At the time anyways, before they blew up

[obtuse chasm]

Those games made them blow up

[lapis swallow]

You need expert mobile devs to create the game from scratch, Netease and a lot of CN companies dominate that market

Sad fact that Bungie only found Netease

[gritty rune]

Yeah and they were small studios when they made those games

[obtuse chasm]

And did those games come out with tons and content and without flaws?

[toxic edge]

Pete needed money for cars

[gritty rune]

About as much as DR yeah. There was like 8 chapters in the main story in PGR at the time

[obtuse chasm]

I miss gameloft but they’re just as bad as netease

[lapis swallow]

They could choose a lot of game studios under Tencent's wing if they want their own IPs turned into a mobile game, like Activision on Timi making CODM

[bitter estuary]

pgr isn't good these days iirc

[toxic edge]

PGR?

[obtuse chasm]

There you go, just as much as dr., dr did not get the love those games did tho

[lapis swallow]

And a hot take: Game companies under Tencent > Netease

[obtuse chasm]

The dr community actively wants to see it fail

Bring back order and chaos

[bitter estuary]

punishing gray raven, game has good story but otherwise not a lot of content

[gritty rune]

And there’s plenty of startup studios popping up

[lapis swallow]

Kuro, luckily they still have full autonomy while Tencent just gives them money and support

[toxic edge]

Want to see DR failing?

[stiff vault]

it's not like it started out that way, there was a lot of potential that just got almost completely wasted that drove people away

[obtuse chasm]

I know, but that wasn’t my original point

[gritty rune]

Yeah because NetEase does not care

[lapis swallow]

They're doing it on their own already which is not surprising

[toxic edge]

I mean, thats the Destiny curse

[obtuse chasm]

It’s netease, what do you expect? As I said I don’t like them either

[dusty spire]

All I see is lack of interaction

In terms of overall direction

[gritty rune]

They’re a big corporate developer with other far more successful titles and sees little point in reinvesting back into mobile games

[toxic edge]

Great universe handled by bad companies

[mossy holly]

Can Netease just give up with the GM Campaign..

[lapis swallow]

Not necessary Destiny's curse, lots of Netease games does that, their cash babies rn are WWM and Marvel Rivals, they couldn't care less on their other games

[gritty rune]

Hence why I said this game would be in much better shape under a smaller studio

[bitter estuary]

netease has a crap ton of projects, if this truly fails then it's up to them

[obtuse chasm]

I agree, but I’ve been saying this, I just don’t think dr could have been done better by a smaller company

[dusty spire]

Neteas is transitioning into using more ai models to help with the workflow and development of games.

So I think it’s to do with that internal change of structure and stratergy using new tech

[obtuse chasm]

This is driving me mad tbh

[lapis swallow]

Every gaming company does that nowadays, especially on animation rigging, could cut workflow time from 1-3 days to 1-3 hrs

[toxic edge]

Feels at times like one considring Bungie's state rn

[dusty spire]

Same, read it in their recent filling to investors

[stiff vault]

it 100% could lmao tencent made DR, they're as big as it gets. literally ANYONE else counts as a "smaller studio"

[dusty spire]

It saves money because the studio reduces human capital

[gritty rune]

Like I said, a smaller studio could definitely make the game considering NetEase didn’t exactly put their A or even B teams on DR anyways, and they’d care about it more to actually invest back into it

[dusty spire]

But in the short term the transition to using ai is definitely seen

[obtuse chasm]

How does tencent made dr correlate with my point?

[gritty rune]

Tencent did not make this game lol

[lapis swallow]

Plus using LLMs nowadays, these gaming companies won't have that much of a hard time coming up with concepts, as long as they're not using AI gen on their final content and artwork

[gritty rune]

NetEase is the 2nd biggest developer in China though

[stiff vault]

meant to say netease it's quarter to 7am and i havent had coffee yet

[toxic edge]

I feel thats the "best" use of AI

[glad valve]

Got wait till 12 bro I can’t handle this

[gritty rune]

But honestly, do you think NetEase put like a 300 man team on this game or something

[stiff vault]

i dont think they would even though they probably have the resources to do so

but thats just business

[gritty rune]

The only advantage NetEase have is being able to reuse their asset base

[dusty spire]

Made by humans powered by ai

Or

Made by ai powered by humans?

[obtuse chasm]

No and I never said they did, there are more aspects to a game then a dev team tho…

[lapis swallow]

Animation rigging and effects with the use of specialized AI software as well, a human can redo it many times that could take days to come up with such, you can do it in hrs on AI when they can produce a lot of variations

[obtuse chasm]

As I said earlier destiny may be failing but that doesn’t make the IP cheap

[lapis swallow]

The latter ye: made by humans powered by AI

[dusty spire]

I think it should be made by humans since we have the absolute ability to be the most “creative” and then powered by ai to operate or clean up

[gritty rune]

And what factors does NetEase provide that a smaller studio can’t for something like DR other than existing assets?

[dusty spire]

I think you get it 👌🏾💯💯💯

[toxic edge]

As an ammateur 3D animator, so true

[dusty spire]

I don’t want generative services

And ai can do that

[obtuse chasm]

Exactly that existing assets, smaller company’s don’t have the funds or budget to make a game or even begin making a game like dr

[gritty rune]

And tbh if they made the game but it’s not destiny but called Fate: Fallen instead I don’t think I’d care

The story and worldbuilding certainly aren’t strong points of this game

[obtuse chasm]

But you’re speaking in hypotheticals that’s not the case

[lapis swallow]

AI should only be used to increase efficiency and speed of a tedious task, then I question anyone why would you generate art using AI when art doesn't need efficiency but creativity

[gritty rune]

So, HI3, PGR etc all never existed?

[dusty spire]

I love you in the kindest way possible

[lapis swallow]

Art isn't even tedious job or a chore to make in the first place lol, why would anyone automate that

[stiff vault]

isnt your entire point that a smaller studio hypothetically couldn't release DR like netease did though?

[dusty spire]

And your a voice of reason during this time love to see this!

[toxic edge]

So true

[obtuse chasm]

Do those IPs belong to more expensive developers or company’s?

[dusty spire]

Man when I see humans getting into creative mode it’s a absolute pleasure to see, in all fields of our art

[obtuse chasm]

No just that they couldn’t even begin in the first place

It has been sidetracked from the original point tbh

[gritty rune]

Because a lot of art like the event images don’t really need creativity and the players don’t care enough to make a fuss

[dusty spire]

It’s when humans start to swing these jobs to ai that’s when you feel the lost of creativity and a repeat of generative art…..

[toxic edge]

Then there is the company Im doing an intership in, giving us AI slop for "concept art" for us to do models

[fathom burrow]

Qui et français et qui peux m’aider svp car pas évident sinon

[stiff vault]

okay yeah but if you dont want to get into hypotheticals why make your entire point pivot on one

[gritty rune]

Again, if this game was called Fate:Fallen, would it matter much?

[dusty spire]

That tell you a lot about the company

[lapis swallow]

I use AI on my internship within Radiology and Pathology rotation in Medicine, a human eye can always skip accidentally those problematic lesions or images. It's dangerous to miss when a life depends on it

[gritty rune]

Like we haven’t even gotten any decent story content since launch

[toxic edge]

Its 3D modeling and animation, so diff of why its bad

[obtuse chasm]

No but they’re using characters from destiny, honestly they probably would have been better off not using destiny IP

[toxic edge]

In medicine, AI is completly fine for that

[dusty spire]

You think so?
Why?

[stiff vault]

except they arent because like half the guardians in the game are OCs

[dusty spire]

OCs?

[gritty rune]

Most characters have like 1 line in Destiny lore, or aren’t existing characters to start with

[lapis swallow]

I can't even memorize every picture of a tumor or an X-ray of the disease 😭 thank god AI is there to assist in case I miss those for diagnosis

[stiff vault]

original creations, made specifically for DR not from the main IP

[obtuse chasm]

Good point, but honestly this has been going back and forth and a lot of what I’m saying is just questions I’m answering that don’t relate to my original point.

[dusty spire]

I don’t know destiny lore still learning

[stiff vault]

okay then get to your point

[stiff vault]

thats perfectly fine theres a lot and its really complicated

MyNameIsByf is a great youtuber to watch for lore

[lapis swallow]

Big bad dark vs good light in constant, eternal war. The end

[stiff vault]

this guy gets it

[gritty rune]

Like I said, this game barely capitalises on Destiny’s IP

[toxic edge]

Spoilers of D2 ||Smoky head guy wants to make everything abstract art with power of white ball||

[gritty rune]

Heck, we’re not even set in the same timeline

[dusty spire]

This dude here I’ve absolutely got to get

[toxic edge]

Zavaslop

[dusty spire]

I like that DR has re introduced me to destiny

[toxic edge]

Bro is so washed

[stiff vault]

i remember when people said that around release and there were hoardes of people in here that would go "this isnt a destiny game this is a gacha game about destiny"

[lapis swallow]

I could summarize Warframe lore in one sentence: Space Ninjas wanting freedom and fighting for the better good while 2 factions desperately want them as weapons

[dusty spire]

Really??
Man I watched him talking to guardians pumping them up and then this happened.

I collect titans that’s the style I like.

[finite gazelle]

Meh

[gritty rune]

The realistic situation is NetEase probably just reused a ton of existing assets and slapped a Destiny theme on it cos that’s what they do for all their mobile games

[dusty spire]

Just iced up and leaped into battle

[finite gazelle]

Really glosses over a lot of important details

[stiff vault]

maybe this is a crazy wild insanely hot take but this community early on had a lot of toxic positivity about the state of the game so no real push for improvement was ever made, so people just left and now we're here

[toxic edge]

With spoilers: Space traumas

[gritty rune]

Like, Diablo Immortal was just a reskin of another game

[stiff vault]

oh 10000000%

[toxic edge]

Idk if we will ever get commander Zavala

[lapis swallow]

It's just Diablo 4 tbh with heavy microtransactions towards P2W

[toxic edge]

Could be nice

[gritty rune]

I don’t think we’ve ever had any influence to start with lol

[obtuse chasm]

I have multiple times… go somewhere else if you plan on being rude, you weren’t even involved in this conversation. everything I’m saying is in response to his counters, it’s not an argument just simply two differing opinions, don’t make it one.

[stiff vault]

i wouldnt want him to be added with lance reddick gone :(

[toxic edge]

I want Felwinter as a playable character

[gritty rune]

Crazy how this game made 12m even without China or Japan at launch, but NetEase went ‘nah’ and abandoned it

[stiff vault]

nah there were a bunch of d2 youtubers that were watching the game to see if anything promising came up but the game fell flat

[obtuse chasm]

That’s netease for ya

[lapis swallow]

I mean, they technically bought the IP, as part of the package, all assets are included as well

[toxic edge]

A goat, but the new VA is doing a great job

[gritty rune]

Errr, isn’t this game made in Unity?

[stiff vault]

im not being rude i was simply making a statement, as for not being involved in the conversation its literally a public chat in a discord with 200,000 people in it

[lapis swallow]

Nope, custom engine, you can search it

[gritty rune]

And no they did not buy the IP

The 100m was an investment

[lapis swallow]

They have to buy the IP, or else they can't name it Destiny:Rising

It has a trademark registered, and they can't also use Destiny assets we now use in-game

[toxic edge]

Not really
They bought the rights to use it in this project

[gritty rune]

Unless they used the same engine as Destiny somehow you can’t just rip assets from mainline Destiny and put it in here

[toxic edge]

Not the IP itself

[stiff vault]

they didnt, the rights to use the IP were part of the 100m investment deal back in 2018

[toxic edge]

Buying the IP means owning Destiny 2 and Destiny 1 too

[stiff vault]

its been almost a decade since then

[gritty rune]

No, they invested in Bungie and Bungie let them use the IP as a favour essentially

[obtuse chasm]

“Get to your point,” after I’ve stated it multiple times, towards the end of a discussion… I don’t even know why I’m opening your chats I blocked you for a reason 😭

[stiff vault]

lmao dude every time i come in here you're just arguing with someone else but okay

[lapis swallow]

They literally ripped off the assets, even renamed some of the items in the game, including exotics.

[gritty rune]

Yeah which is not what Destiny mainline uses

[obtuse chasm]

Again it wasn’t an argument… but okay

[lapis swallow]

They even renamed Queenbreaker

[gritty rune]

No, they made the same assets in their own engine

[lapis swallow]

Kept Arbalest though and Jotun

[gritty rune]

Thats not this works

[stiff vault]

this is still a mobile game, recreating things that already exist in the source IP would be easy work for them considering how much simpler the weapon model would be

[gritty rune]

You can’t just rip an asset from a different game in a different engine into another engine

[lapis swallow]

Unless they make those assets from Bungie using an open source software, which then porting to Netease own engine much easier

[gritty rune]

Or they just recreate the gun in their own engine cos its not exactly hard

[stiff vault]

you cant just magically port full rendered tiger engine assets into a completely separate engine intended for mobile games thats just not how that works

they just recreated that stuff in house thats light work even for small studios

[gritty rune]

I like how years back people were claiming NFTs would let you use the thing you own in every game

[stiff vault]

if i go up to a professional 3D animator giving them any and every reference image and resource i could for something and said "hey make me this thing" they'd probably have it done in half a shift

[lapis swallow]

They can basically port models, even pulling off 3D models and textures to their own engine

[stiff vault]

nooo you cant just screenshot my pngs thats THEFT it'll never work in the metaverse! 😭

[stiff vault]

once again thats just not how that works

[lapis swallow]

Active Ripping via Ninja Ripper, 3D Ripper DX or the community made Destiny Model Ripper

[toxic edge]

If both engines allow imports from Blender or Maya, its easy

[stiff vault]

i highly doubt dr is using blender assets

[toxic edge]

If they are made EXCLUSIVLY on another programm, might be way harder

[stiff vault]

same goes for tiger engine

[stiff vault]

hence

[lapis swallow]

I mean Bungie is using Blender on their cinematics on D2

[glad valve]

Get to play Rising soon

[stiff vault]

cinematics are entirely different

they're prerendered

[toxic edge]

MIGHT comeback myself, havent played since Crota

[glad valve]

Will there be another Raid coming

[stiff vault]

would there even be enough people to run it

[dusty spire]

Definitely

[glad valve]

Vault Glass I’m praying for the Vex Mythoclast to come to Rising

[toxic edge]

Wrath

Pls, would be funny

[finite gazelle]

Vog would make like zero sense unless they do an alternate reality thing like crota again

[naive ingot]

Ahamkara Raid

[glad valve]

This would be cool

[gritty rune]

Crota was basically DoA

[toxic edge]

How many characters have they added since Crota?

[gritty rune]

Once people got symmetry they dipped

[tiny girder]

I bet if they let us have our own 12 player private lobbies where we could effectively choose between sparring, map/zone training, maybe even strategic placement of enemies through out the map, etc. the whole PvP blow up

That’d be dope asf. Pipe dream tho, sadly.

[glad valve]

I got Symmetry yesterday

[gritty rune]

They should focus on single player content going forwards cos the game can’t support multiplayer anymore

No one’s even going GM content now

[glad valve]

I don’t know where GMs are

[thorny obsidian]

nobody doing GM cause they saving keys for next season 🙂

[sharp talon]

they should do one more expanse and make it weekly

[gritty rune]

12 players? We can’t even get 6 together lol

[tiny girder]

Again….pipe dream🤣🤣

[gritty rune]

No one’s been doing GMs for like a month+ now

[thorny obsidian]

we playing a diferent game i guess then

[sharp talon]

tbh i havent really had a problem queuing for gm, but i havent really queued for it much

[gritty rune]

By no one I mean like 5-10 min queues

[naive ingot]

Only need 12 😂

[toxic edge]

For what?

why saving them?

[thorny obsidian]

i'm already on 18 👀

[gritty rune]

Sweat in CO for the 4 season in a row

[lapis swallow]

GM gets flat out empty every weekly reset, it's harder to find matches days after the reset on it

[thorny obsidian]

why spending them al now when your guns get reset back to 80 on season launch?

[tiny girder]

I’m saying though if they had any kinda of private lobby feature, there’d definitely be mf’s hanging out all day sparring or just kicking it back and fourth throughout main & priv

[naive ingot]

To get metastable cores to 85 weapons

[tiny girder]

And GM’s definitely ain’t dead.

[prisma pond]

Totally agreed.
Everything is coop right now they've been pushing for this game to be like d2 but fail to realize we just aint got the playerbase for it especially with these split servers

[tiny girder]

Dying but not dead like SG

[gritty rune]

Should just make GM LC use keys tbh

[naive ingot]

Solo them 😂

[glad valve]

Rising players. Question
Who is the best character

[lapis swallow]

Helhest

[prisma pond]

Helhest :3

[tiny girder]

SALADIN

[naive ingot]

I'm bias.... So Gwynn 😂

[glad valve]

Who’s Helhest

[lapis swallow]

But you won't get her anymore unless they rerun her

[toxic edge]

Oh ok

[lapis swallow]

Most broken character in the game

[gritty rune]

And it’ll only get worse cos we ain’t getting new players

[thorny obsidian]

she is somewhere under a big layer of dust 🤣 🤣

[glad valve]

Gwynn is cool

[gritty rune]

So, just make the game single player

[lapis swallow]

Has the highest DPS without exploits (unlike T6 Wigkora), provides teamwide buffs on both damage and heals, and produces power ammo

[thorny obsidian]

don't forget this season was hella long. so thats why alot of people put the game away for a while until the new seaso starts

[naive ingot]

Not for me. Lol. Till it resets. Fastest in Wales on Deathsingers 😂

[tiny girder]

Seriously. This is kind of why I said they need to throw us a bone or something cause what they got going on right now ain’t hitting on nothing.

[glad valve]

Well that’s not cool

[stiff vault]

i literally had no idea it dropped until like way later because i put the game down when i realized there was hardly any substantial content

[naive ingot]

I see new lights daily...

[gritty rune]

I doubt that’s gonna happen cos NetEase does not care about this game

[tiny girder]

It’s literally spin pinnacle first thing on a running singularity until I’m out, re factoring my artifacts and then kind of standing around wishing I had something else to do haha

[gritty rune]

They’ll just let it run into the grave steadily on its own

[gritty rune]

It barely matters. People did it for a week and then it was dead content

There’s no loot

[lapis swallow]

It's funny that a lot of long time players basically quit random matchmaking if they can't see Helhest supporting them on Calamity Ops, or even on pre-made ones, they need to force one player to run Helhest just for buffs

[glad valve]

I did play at launch but got tired of waiting everyday to access story so I took a break and now I’m back and battered the story and made it to endgame nearly acclaim level 10

[prisma pond]

Her.

[stiff vault]

even when eclipsed monolith had been out for a few weeks i was still trying to run it out of boredom but it just died so fast

[glad valve]

Why don’t they just add her to the pool

[gritty rune]

Yeah ofc there is new lights, but what I mean is that the playerbase is clearly declining cos there’s not enough of them to replace people quitting

[lapis swallow]

Unless they release another character that has the same utility as of her, she remains Tier 0 on the tierlist of the characters due to being broken

[prisma pond]

Why indeed.
No joke if they added her into the rerun banner i'l throw all my pulls getting her t6

[tiny girder]

Because they know that they have something extremely valuable to them that everyone everyone’s waiting for an anticipation to buy. They’re either gonna pump fake us with phasing her out and then circle back and knock our heads off or just plain knock our heads off.

As per the usu

[glad valve]

I get you sounds cool

[stiff vault]

and thats why they havent rerun her, because rerun banners for OP characters make a ton of money after long waits in normal gachas

just look at raiden reruns in genshin

[lapis swallow]

Idk if they fixed T6 Wigkora exploit, but I did notice the cluster bombs method doesn't charge her enhanced skill that fast anymore

[tiny girder]

Also, wrong reply lmao. I’m gone haha

[gritty rune]

Raiden is like, barely relevant in Genshin at this point lol

[prisma pond]

I mean seriously it baffles me why would a gatcha game say no to free money by rerunning char banner like its so stupid idk what they're thinking

[gritty rune]

And fell off hard since Sumeru

[stiff vault]

yeah now she isnt but people are still gonna pull for electro mommy whether it be for her design, they like the character or the fact that shes an archon

my point still remains the same tho

[sharp talon]

efrideet gonna be hh with a dash

[prisma pond]

YES it does. Thats exactly why they should do it more often. Also helhest isnt the only char they're estella and gwen too, i know a lot of people wanna get them who might've started late.
Its literally free money

[stiff vault]

im not disagreeing with you that they should sell characters like that more, but they wont bc fomo

[gritty rune]

When was her last rerun?

[lapis swallow]

Eh, Estella and Gwen won't be that much wanted unless you lack those specific elements in your selection. People would rather ask for Helhest due to her utility in the game

[stiff vault]

uuuuuh somewhat recently icr though because i havent played in a while, only logged on to trudge through the rest of natlan and noticed there was like two days left on the banner a few weeks back

[naive ingot]

I use Attal for arc piercing....

[lapis swallow]

Plus both Estela and Gwen already powercrept by better characters of their same element

[gritty rune]

Gwen is essentially powercrept and Estella was ning victim on her own act lol

[prisma pond]

Thats just lame pure and simple tbh.
Its like gollum treating these banners like its their PRECIOUSSS

[lapis swallow]

There's no point getting Gwen anymore plus Estella, you can just run Ning Fei, he's much better anyways especially his speed

[stiff vault]

woah crazy the game genre designed to squeeze money out of you tries to squeeze money out of you

[gritty rune]

Jaren kind of replaced Ning as runner anyways

[prisma pond]

Idk about that in element maybe but they do have specific shinka coverage

[sharp talon]

ning is much faster on fulminator

[sharp talon]

not really, im the only one running jaren in overseer LOL

[naive ingot]

Best place for Ning is in the bin. Can't stand him

[gritty rune]

Based

[lapis swallow]

Shinka coverage basically doesn't matter when the ones powercreeping the both of them have new units that have better DPS

[stiff vault]

FOMO turns the "maybe i'll pull her on the next banner" into "if i dont pull her now i wont get her again", running good characters more often just makes netease lose potential profit. it's stupid but thats just how gachas are run. @prisma pond

[sharp talon]

jaren is still by far my fav nothing plays as fun as jaren

[lapis swallow]

Gwynn Shinkas - Jaren exists (you can use Jolder even lol)
Estella? - just use Ning Fei or Jolder

[gritty rune]

Tbh 2 characters with no story quest going standard after their banner ends was… an interesting choice

[prisma pond]

But my brother in christ this game has enough resources to be able to pull every new char on launch if you play regularly
So its not much of a choice ngl

[gritty rune]

Last month revenue was like 300k?

[naive ingot]

Use Xuan Wei for impact if players don't have jolder (or Gwynn and Jaren)

[lapis swallow]

They really don't care about the revenue or at least make effort on the content when they have 2 games that funds the entire company in millions

[stiff vault]

if you think this game has enough resources to get every banner char f2p we clearly arent playing the same game lmao

either that or you havent gotten unlucky on pulls

[rotund raptor]

Nah its doable if u play everyday

At least for 1 copy

[stiff vault]

yeah but some of us are this scary thing called employed

[prisma pond]

I am f2p and have every char.
Got an extra 23k sitting in my inv along with them because its been a hot min since a new char launched.. and i play casually while missing a couple of weaklies

[naive ingot]

Indeed.

[lapis swallow]

I joined late during Gwynn banner and didn't get her, I have every character from Estella down to the current one just by playing regularly

Iirc, I got 1 week left before Gwynn banner ends

It's funny even I don't have Tan-5 still, only getting copies of Jolder and Ning Fei

[bitter estuary]

its open

[stiff vault]

i got really unlucky on all my early banner pulls so i was SOL when the content dried up, and im not gonna hop on to do weeklies/dailies on a game that hits such an abrupt dead end

[rotund raptor]

And u dont have 1 hour to play a day. For exmpl in a break or after work

[glad valve]

The pulls are mid

[stiff vault]

1 hour to play games, sure. 1 hour to play destiny: rising in it's current state with the content it has? no lol i'd rather just knock myself out for an hour and waste time that way.

especially every day

[livid sable]

-looks at maint notes for new content-
-reused maps-
who could have seen this coming

[rotund raptor]

I see

[gritty rune]

You don’t enjoy running LC for piss bottle for the 400th time?

[lapis swallow]

The pull economy is doable for getting every character in new banners since there's no 50-50, the only frustrating part is the shilled new exotic from BP

[lapis swallow]

Finally 2 photons enough to finish one node in an exotic 🥀

[stiff vault]

just for the pipe dream of f2ping a guardian that will be either power crept immediately or DOA because they arent literally ning fei 2 or helhelst junior? i'd rather suck start a shotgun

[sharp talon]

not bad tbh

[gritty rune]

Tbf, I don’t think there’s been much powercreep in this game thus far

It’s more like, Helhest >>>>> everyone else

[lapis swallow]

At this point, I'mma save those 2 photons for my Arbalest, I am this close in getting one last copy of it. DR is too stingy for photons holy

[gritty rune]

Her beating Jaren in his own expanse was a thing

[sharp talon]

arby bug where u can transfer damage from precision shinka into the last mob u shot 💀 they need to fix that ASAP

[prisma pond]

Agreed. Photons economy needs to improve and its been a long time since that's been an issue..

[rotund raptor]

True the bp. Weapons are the hardest thing to get

[naive ingot]

Servers are up

[lapis swallow]

They artificially curbed "powercreep" by putting specific Shinkas in end-game modes lmfao. And of course, the newest character will be the most OP on the mode specific for them

[livid sable]

they gotta just embrace the overtuning and give us a void lfr 💀

[gritty rune]

So, arbalest?

Helhest is basically a rainbow character

[prisma pond]

I mean thats pretty normal in gatchas tho i half expect it nowadays :v

[lapis swallow]

Helhest is OP on every mode except The Expanse if it's not Piercing lol

[gritty rune]

Only if it’s RF or spread she still deletes impact

[thorny obsidian]

anybody know which triumphs they talking bout?

[lapis swallow]

Heck, believe it or not, she does better on Impact as well 😂

[sharp talon]

cuz of arby

its ridiculous

[gritty rune]

She’s ridiculous to start with

It’s more like , arby let her be usable in other elements too

[sharp talon]

arby on top of that idk what they are thinking

its so broken arby 😡

[gritty rune]

Now imagine if she had SMG or grenade instead of bow

[prisma pond]

I wish! xD

[bitter estuary]

gallows as a primary

[exotic sinew]

It’s great for a support class. If t6 Ikora can do great dmg, I have a feeling the dps we get after her will be stronger. If the dps after Ikora are stronger, then Helhest will be a true support for the most part, there just to pop a shot into each enemy and buff everyone else’s damage

[gritty rune]

If they let us use any weapon like main destiny every meta for anything would just be 3x helhest

[exotic sinew]

T0-T4 Helhest is already more support than DPS, she’s only a “DPS” after T5

I got barely any sleep, gonna catch a hour to fast forward past maintenance time

[sharp talon]

its already over

[exotic sinew]

That’s an early maintenance

[sharp talon]

yea i was confused as well

[exotic sinew]

I just assumed it was going on still

Wow. Well. I still need sleep

[livid sable]

youre ahead of the game

[lapis swallow]

You can see a bit of laser spamming on T4 Wigkora, almost unlimited lasers on T6, that probably got fixed, since the cluster bombs don't charge her ability that fast anymore

[bitter estuary]

guys is damage bonus boost good on hairkora

[elder wing]

No lol

Weapon. Void. Abil. Sig

[elder wing]

A bit late today

[bitter estuary]

i've just sent that @devout void

[devout void]

gg

[cyan tide]

Oh wow, so GMs are an actual event now

I'll happily take 2 photons

[dusty spire]

Niceee

[sharp talon]

bad stages for jaren again on arc expanse sigh

[livid sable]

arc piercing lolol

[bitter estuary]

lol

[sharp talon]

season 4 spoilers: its now prestige energy

[bitter estuary]

i was so confused when reading the thing

also the way the highlighted "double rewards" but not "costs double "prestige" energy"

[empty kettle]

Probably similar to regular pinnacle energy pre-s4

[sharp talon]

wait, arc expanse 40 is great for jaren

i love netease

[tight talon]

So any leads on who is this mystery visitor?

Any chances they show up ingame or they are just going to terrorize FB, Twitter and YT accounts

[tight talon]

Bad translation likely

Pinnacle and Prestige are similarly used words

[bitter estuary]

yeah

[dusty spire]

Any more progressive items for free I’ll take

Ty

I know people moan but this again is giving more progression for those lacking behind

[gritty rune]

I think more progression items are good but my main issue is more like, the rewards are boring instead of not enough

At the end of the day, loot in looter shooters are about chasing the dopamine high and piss bottles being the only thing over and over is not it

[signal spade]

well theres nothing to care about is the bigger issue right

like i have every character above 74-75k

nothing that drops is even remotely dopamine inducing

[sharp talon]

only loot i look forward to are god roll artifacts

[gritty rune]

The endgame loop itself is an issue yeah but that’s a different issue to the loot

Basically we’re like, so screwed lol and they need to knock the rework next season out of the park for it to fix anything

[signal spade]

i just meant more the only thing they could add right now that id care about are cosmetics without them overhauling or adding another system for power that is less brain rotting

[gritty rune]

I don’t even care about those anymore. Every artifact is just some variation of do X to get X damage buff

[signal spade]

but i mean idk how unrealistic it is for this game to just eventually add armor as a grind

[gritty rune]

It’s not exciting

[signal spade]

at some point in the future

[gritty rune]

They have to

There is not enough reward space

[signal spade]

ea

[sharp talon]

ye i care about them because of expanse min maxing

and how rare they are

[gritty rune]

Idk I like expanse, but I don’t really care about min maxing because … what’s the point

Expanse has been the same thing since launch

[signal spade]

yea i mean thats where the game falls apart on a basic level

if you dont care about speed running minmaxing is kinda irrelevant

[gritty rune]

The replayability is kind of dead outside of getting good loot

[gritty rune]

Because we’ve been speedrunning the exact same things since launch

Like even the most hardcore speedrunners are bored of it

[sharp talon]

i still love expanse tbh

[signal spade]

well i just mean the miniscule dps gains of a truth vs ttf are not relevant anywhere but overseer calam ops and like expanse speedrunning

[sharp talon]

pushing for #1 on off meta like jaren on arc expanse

[signal spade]

if you just wanna clear or get to master 2 each reset you dont need anything minmaxed

[gritty rune]

I enjoy playing expanse once

It’s fun, loot is good and overall quite nice

But replaying it over and over again for ranks, nah

I’m just chilling in expert 2 atm l

I do 1 CO run each reset and that’s it

[tight talon]

I rather new artifacts as well

Increased Debuff Durations

Increased Buff durations

Trade HP for maintaining a specific state on myself or Enemy

[dusty spire]

Items and all these things will just build up over time

Live service ….

[signal spade]

we just need the real brainrot grinds

like if you combine 2 cat 3 exotic weapons your exotic weapon catches fire permanently and you look like a god in haven

[gritty rune]

It’s been 6 months. It’s like, some time

Other gachas have released and died in this time lol

[sharp talon]

sounds insane. they need to hire you

[signal spade]

lmfao

[sharp talon]

actually insane tbh

[signal spade]

cosmetics are the endgame

[gritty rune]

Best we can do is joke helmets

[signal spade]

someone was in here meming about someone taking like cinematic screenshots but whales love flexing their paychecks in public spaces

so do hardcore grinders

[gritty rune]

But tbf the chicken one is pretty cool

[sharp talon]

i surprisingly like it too

the other helmets are bad

[gritty rune]

The guy in WWM who built 2 mirage boats

Each one is like $40k

[signal spade]

yea we need the guy who pays 100k to get his name engraved into the traveler

[gritty rune]

There’s a $100k upgraded mirage boat in WWM CN

Absolutely nuts

[sharp talon]

what are the point of those things

[signal spade]

bro kimdotcom was addicted to d2

[gritty rune]

Gives you an outfit and lets you host server wide parties on it

Basically whale flex

[signal spade]

dude had infinite money if d2 had just added a 100k store item he wouldve bought it

free salary for an employee for the year cause 1 dude wanted to flex

its just layering at the end of the day

if there was another upgrade layer on top of weapon mastery 5 that was just weapon mastery 6 and all it did was give you +1 character power stat all the leaderboard maniacs would farm whatever currency it required

and then weapon upgrades same thing, why stop at 10, just let it go to like 100 and from 10->100 you just get cosmetic bumps on the gun

[empty kettle]

The ahamkara in the Red Sea Rift

[tight talon]

I don't see em ingame rn

Where the calender says they are ingame

[empty kettle]

You'll see in s4

[candid phoenix]

There’s nothing in game so far, it’s just twitter posts

[exotic sinew]

What triumphs did they fix

[tight talon]

That's okay. Not a problem. Why declare current segment from 10 to what 19? March as Mystery Visitor for ingame calendar event

[signal spade]

for arguments sake the word ingame appears nowhere and theres no reference of the tweets in the actual game

CM prob asleep at the wheel thinking ppl needed an announcement on twitter to look at twitter

[sharp talon]

i think it would be cooler if they didnt put it on the calendar

[signal spade]

exactly

[tight talon]

Worser part is

GM event is acknowledged

Mystery visitor aint

[haughty mist]

Question, with the most recent patch there was the update for triumphs, notably ● [Triumphs] Fixed an issue in which certain Triumphs could not be completed.

Does anyone know which triumphs this refer to?

[signal spade]

probably the 3 secret ones nobody had

[glad valve]

Hello Rising

[sharp talon]

jaren op lol

[cyan tide]

Well, that's that

[little lotus]

Anything from the devs lately?

[remote grove]

Yeah shifting gates is gone s4

[little lotus]

Seen that the official Youtube channels last video was 2 months ago.

It’s alright. Just a bot gamemode now.

[remote grove]

Prob next week sometime they will release the season teaser with new raid and new banner etc

Maybe sooner but I expect a week to go yet

[signal spade]

21st

[gritty rune]

I really hope the new raid has rewards to chase because crota was just DoA

[signal spade]

make the crota skins free but put em in the new raid as rare drops 🤔

[gritty rune]

Like 3% or something

Need to have short term, med term and long term chases

[signal spade]

make it so you can upgrade it with dupes too so you can dedicate your entire life to a level 100 crota helmet

[gritty rune]

Not 1 exotic that you can get in one week and the only other chase being a 0.5% drop

But tbh, if we don’t see a uptick of players raid experience is gonna be horrible

Crota takes like 5 mins to get a match on PUG

[remote grove]

People will log in for contest i think. After that who knows lol

[gritty rune]

Contest does piss all for long term sustain

I wish they make the not hardmode raid soloable

[sharp talon]

ppl might play the campaign after that

[gritty rune]

Game is too dead for multiplayer

[remote grove]

Yeah idk what they plan on doing if anything. People been complaining about unstuck ops for awhile but here it is still the only endgame content other than expanse 40 that really doesnt have good rewards

[gritty rune]

The only thing we do nowadays is LC

[remote grove]

And hardmode crota is not even worth doing compared to the time it takes to get people on same page

[gritty rune]

I don’t think hardmode raid was ever gonna be popular for a mobile game anyways

Idk what they wanted to do with hardmode

But next update is make or break I reckon. Division comes out on 31st and that’s gonna drain another batch of players

[remote grove]

Idk its not like many people are on DR more than like 1-2 hrs a day to use pinnacle and run calamity. Idk if division will kill the game necessarily other than give other players something to do while waiting for more content, which is what they are all doing rn anyways with different games.

[wide dagger]

Interesting

[gritty rune]

People don’t tend to spend on multiple games at the same time though

[signal spade]

thats a lot of campaign engrams to hoard

[wide dagger]

Been collecting for a long time

[gritty rune]

And like, for example, we saw a pretty noticeable player drop after WWm came out on mobile so it seems like a lot of people don’t play multiple games at the same time anyways

[tropic swift]

Anyone know what Triumphs were fixed?

[signal spade]

holy pog

-_-

great use of screen real estate

[gritty rune]

The hardest part of this seasons achievements is getting the crota time trials done

[sharp talon]

i dont think it was hard if u tried to do it immediately

it was easy to find a premade

[signal spade]

The bridge one was kinda wild to try to and do with random mm

The rest were whatever

[gritty rune]

I … didn’t lol

Now it takes forever to find a group

[sharp talon]

ye thats unlucky

[gritty rune]

Wish they make future raids solo

[naive ingot]

I don't get why the glows don't stack

[remote grove]

Yeah I have so many cluttering my bag up that im never gunna use

[naive ingot]

Same here

[twilit thistle]

🤞 free to whale atp bc it’s false advertisement

[tight talon]

9098822 leaves now as compensation

[remote grove]

I play wwm but don't spend xD this game doesnt really have much worth spending on. Im just saving L.E for the next character I wanna t6 and I just t6 hairkora for free

[twilit thistle]

👀 don’t gimme ideas

[tight talon]

dont cha dare

be responsible with your money dawg

[twilit thistle]

I mean it’s likely to be refunded tho unless netease literally does a 180 and drops a s4 that is so good it undoes months of neglect.

[tight talon]

I wont rain o n the parade but its likely not happening

we need something to spend time on optimizing that isnt immediately steam rolled by T6 HH

[remote grove]

All went downhill from there

[twilit thistle]

Introducing HH 2.0

[tight talon]

🧱

[twilit thistle]

😭

[naive ingot]

🥺

[golden spade]

Congratulations 🎊🔥🔥🔥

[twilit thistle]

🥺

[naive ingot]

[lunar jay]

Gwn rerun when

whos even releasing on the new season

also id imagine things going different if people didnt just whale thru things

[twilit thistle]

You’d be surprised on how slow it rlly is for a whale too. It’s like 2 weeks if I remember correctly to max an exotic as f2p, and 1 week as a whale. F2P hates the system just as much as whales do

[polar summit]

1. Golden Key - Use a key to acquire a high-tier reward from the Nine's treasure chests.
2. Morning, Ghost! - Trigger Ghost's greeting once every day for a week.
3. Quiet Complaints - Trigger 5 different Ghost Easter eggs.
4. Respected Lightbearer - 01010011 01101000 01100001 01110010 01100101" - Share game content on social media for the first time.
5. Teamwork is Dreamwork! - You know, I've always been a fan of retro games." - Raise the sum of all players' total score higher than that of the mysterious player in "Go Ghost Go!" at Haven's Arcade.
6. Highway to the... - Maintain a speed of over 85 km/h for 15s in Sparrow Racing.

Well these are the ones unobtainable. 4 still ain’t working, 2 and 3 might have to wait couple days, 5 there is no “mysterious player” on arcade leaderboard, 6 gotta wait for the sparrow race to unlock, 1 idk what they mean for high tier reward but I’ve opened the 10 chests and nothing popped up. I think nothing changed tbh

[lunar jay]

i had no issue with the game until i learned u actually lose out on rewards unless u spend
The playing level isnt the same but the leaderboard exists