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[eager flax]

The Four-horned Ram rocket launchers not getting exotic mod activation for cluster bombs and disturbance origin trait is incredibly disappointing.

[indigo solar]

Tbf it's not just four-horned, it's any blast weapon with those perks

[halcyon moss]

why is everyone so mean bru 😂 \

[bitter estuary]

it's still better than the bellowing for hairkora

[indigo solar]

They exist, there just aren't mods for them yet

[bitter estuary]

because we all knew feb was a dead month anyways

if you play cn version, this patch has both hairkora and jaren so idk honestly

[halcyon moss]

I knew that hair style wouldn't go unoticed

[remote grove]

Time to play marathon

[halcyon moss]

when I saw that hair I was like cayde when Ikora said "we need a worlock on the dreadnaught"
"Here we go"

[twilit thistle]

deadlock>marathon

[remote grove]

True

I unfortunately am running outta stuff to do too. Tried to find a team for overseer calamity runs but RIP

[twilit thistle]

calamity is boring. I haven't taken it seriously since s1a1

[remote grove]

Also true

[bitter estuary]

im just building her also all her mythic hc

dont forget to get your monthly stuff lol

[celest robin]

Totally different games

[twilit thistle]

🥺 but its fun

[celest robin]

Fun? FUN?! There’s still absolutely no micro transactions or anything I can purchase. After 1 year and 9 months you’d think they’d add something!

No game by valve is fun until we’re given the ability to gamble our house away with cosmetic slot machines.

[livid sable]

ur so hurt

[celest robin]

Did give the guy a good hurtin’. I apologize @twilit thistle

[mystic mica]

Sad

[celest robin]

In all seriousness though, deadlock is a great game. Scratches the dots Strategy itch without the toxicity in the player base

[mystic mica]

We love a toxic player base

It’s what gets me up in the mornings

[celest robin]

I believe that’s actually cortisol

[mystic mica]

Nooo it’s the excitement to get sh** on by 12 year olds on any game I play hahahahaha

[celest robin]

Same diff. Worst part of deadlock is you can’t tell them they have no friends when they defecate on you since that’s the only way to be given access to it 😞

[mystic mica]

😂😂😂

[oak kettle]

Attal just kinda ended up being build for me

The consequences of being a HH main (Linear and Artifacts) who also uses Jaren (HCs)

[remote grove]

Oh dont we all

[oak kettle]

Would be my second highest if I got the last level on all her relic abilities, as is she just vibes at the bottom of the best. Only reason she wouldn’t be joint highest is cus she’s only 4 star

[cyan tide]

Don't let facts limit your ability to sh** talk
Maintaining toxicity is the top priority

[twilit thistle]

I its okay, I a little bit of pain. I bet it gets a ton of micro transactions tho

[gilded oriole]

I just got a message saying my name is bad?

[cyan tide]

I'm gonna guess it's because it looks like an invite code lol

[vast arch]

Be careful when selecting which server tag you apply to your profile

[twilit thistle]

❤️‍🔥

[celest robin]

Fortunately It’ll stay in invite only closed testing for another decade at this rate and avoid any of that.

Unless valve loses this gambling lawsuit and has to payout big.

Then I can see it being fast tracked to having in game store

[bitter estuary]

reddit comments:

[dusty spire]

Just got jolder with the free pulls from monthly reset T6 jolder done 😬

😬 @naive ingot

[dusty spire]

Ima be on marathon whilst everyone is crying about what to play :/ gamers today lol

[naive ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny2-titan-crayons-lightfall-did-someone-say-crayons-gif-27220146

[dusty spire]

Soon you’ll be upgrading past 76k
Power scale increase is due

[foggy hemlock]

just seen a YT add for calamity ops boosting wtf 🤣

[haughty shale]

Is Jaren all 4 pcs Signature Artifact best for him?

[novel quest]

@fiery marsh

my account is limited I can't play at all

[fiery marsh]

Sup

[novel quest]

or type back in chat

[fiery marsh]

Lol

What do u think of the idea?

[novel quest]

Maybe bro but I'd have to do it on my alt

I can't even matchmake

[fiery marsh]

Why?

[fiery marsh]

U can look up my build.. Just search my name in game its the highest dps jaren in the game

17.2 mil in 20 seconds at practice range

[fiery marsh]

Did u get a bann on certain stuffs after oob exploits?

[haughty shale]

which server?

[fiery marsh]

NA server

If u want i can send u a pm on my build and answer some questions

Also a streamer names Misery made an updated jaren guide based on my build

[haughty shale]

Would be much appreciate

[fiery marsh]

I'll add u to friends first and send u my build

[dim fractal]

#lfg-great-hunt Need a help with sub 7 min run of the Bridge please

please please

[night rune]

Hello guys, I needed to do the crota

Someone?

Name campomarcos

[devout void]

monthly reset cant wait 5 blue boats

[dusty spire]

😬

Got lucky 🍀 lol

[devout void]

gg best time of the month

[solar viper]

👍

[dusty spire]

Solar please

[thin valve]

Game aint dead yet?

[naive ingot]

No

[naive ingot]

Solar titan is a huge missing step

[dusty spire]

I’m waiting 🫠 eventually will pop up

[signal spade]

Need a bonk titan

[dusty spire]

It’s extremely lower activity but not dead

[thin valve]

Have not been on for like a month now lol

[bitter estuary]

that being said until cn syncs with global we wont be getting a lot

[drowsy cypress]

300k revenue in feb, 200k loss from jan

[red geyser]

[thorny frost]

I wouldn’t really expect anything from the revenue till May at this point XD March will be a dead month and unless they get a lot of returning players for Season 4 the ones who stuck around will have plenty of currency for the next unit. They almost need a new thing to sell if it is to see growth.

[dusty spire]

It’s neteas seeing lower rev anyway across the board but this also don’t account for moneys made outside the two

[tender swift]

does anyone remember when the new main story arc is dropping? was it this month or may? i can't remember which

[thorny frost]

End of March

[thorny frost]

They made a conscious decision to not really push anything to make revenue for 3 months for Global. It isn’t to un expected the current numbers.

Heck the free sparrow they gave might be better stats for sparrow racing then the paid this time too

[agile spindle]

end of service is coming

[drowsy cypress]

depend on next patch.

[thorny frost]

“Coming” Any where from 3 months to 5 years XD.

[drowsy cypress]

i guess EOS is coming to our world, not only Destiny 🤣

[thorny frost]

A game which is barely getting updates except units for a year now just hit their second anniversary. Game was suppose to EOS at 6 months according to some players (I am honestly surprised it hasn’t too tho).

[thorny frost]

The true doom post.

[drowsy cypress]

anyway, DR is first gatha who dont force me to play as a second work. So chill and not so expensive

After i drop mobile mmos, i now have a lot of free money, dr and mlbb sucks $ just a little

[leaden epoch]

Just want to check, does Rampaging Pact actually work with Maru's shield? Saw someone mention that in an earlier chat and wanted to make sure this is one of the best options for her

I currently have Safeguarding Blazar

[naive ingot]

What perks does it have? And which a recommended for Maru are the ones to have.

[leaden epoch]

So both artifacts have the same substats which are optimal for both Maru and Hidden Ikora as I understand it, Weapon / Ability / Void / Signature

So the main advantage to switching would be I could make out Ramapaging Pact for both characters and save a lot of Artifactual Essence

The other tradeoff is overshield increase and 40% ability damage vs 33% damage across the board

Her abilities does a large portion of her damage so Blazar may still be better, but dont know if its enough to not make that optimization worth it

[spiral shell]

Dont worry, NetEase games dont EoS fast
wait for year 4

its rugpull time

[devout void]

We are not waiting raid in march ?

[thorny frost]

Talking revenue sake (although raid might be beginning of April as I believe there is sometimes a delay between new season and raid if I remember correctly?), raids might bring back people but I doubt they would spend that much to start. If they stick around maybe April might see an uptick, but I just am not expecting it, specially with a lot of current players having potential to T6 the next unit with only the tree blessing.

[empty kettle]

Atleast we get story content

And seasonal story campaign

[wispy maple]

👍

[leaden epoch]

We have had radio silence on updates regarding the roadmap right? Considering how often delays happen with games, everyone is putting a lot of faith in one image from months ago. Not saying they wont deliver on time, just I'm kind of personally tempering expectations until an update.

[dusty spire]

PvP event incoming

[thorny frost]

My guess (if I was planning it) first week expansion + release of strikes. 2 nd week an event to go with strikes, 3rd week world first and release of raid. Specially if they keep a 6 week act cycle.

[sharp talon]

the roadmap is off by 3 days earlier or something right now, i dont think they will delay s4

[dusty spire]

Why would they delay lol?

[leaden epoch]

Like I said, not saying it will or won't. Just saying we have people speculating exact dates off a set of bullet points off a months old image 🙂

Probably will, just a lot of speculation over a scrap of info

[empty kettle]

Season 3 ends on the 25th of March

[thorny frost]

Season 4 definitely is slated for the 26th. When they release content within season 4 is definitely up for questioning. There is nothing holding them to release everything at once.

[leaden epoch]

I agree, didnt say anything regarding that they would.

[elder wing]

The only question is if we really getting just what is stated on the roadmap S4 or anything more…

[exotic apex]

Yup

[limber pine]

Who's ready for some new PvP modes FINALY

[empty kettle]

We are obviously getting more

[exotic apex]

I am

[limber pine]

Same same I'm excited

[devout void]

I know its boring but it was expected that february will be dead, now china finally have all the character we have so lets see

No more chinese holiday no more excuses

[elder wing]

That obvious. Just curious if they ran out of space adding new character and new BP. Cuz I don’t see a brand new season and a big one at that without a BP

[molten hound]

Hello

[elder wing]

Honestly the last couple act we had were soo long. I hope they will keep it short and adding new stuff when new season drops

[molten hound]

Yeah

[elder wing]

Too many questions for S4 but we gotta wait and see what happens when they’re back on march 5

[teal dragon]

anyone know where the lumifly locations are in arcology im missing one and cant find it

[molten hound]

Okay

No one

[dusty spire]

Waiting….

[heady obsidian]

oh my god is that.. a new content drop.. in 3.2? what timeline am i in?

[twilit thistle]

Well the sad truth is that roadmap makes is preventing an EOS. Netease has no legal obligation to provide anything after it.

Given how poorly the game is doing, I can’t blame higher ups at netease for being cautious when it comes to this game. But I can blame the developers that got us here in the first place.

[naive ingot]

Want delays... Look at the next thing for Destiny 2... But marathon was to blame for that. Which after several hours dying a lot in the beta I'm still not sure about.

[gritty rune]

They have no legal obligation to provide the rest of it either

They can announce EoS tmr if they want

[heady fulcrum]

ready for everything

[gilded oriole]

That's wild lol

[limber pine]

Bout time they show us some love lol

[gray fox]

Anyone know how to set in game time? I’m using MuMu player on PC. My PC time is right. On the MuMu device itself the time is right. But in game it’s two hours off. I can’t seem to find a setting for this anywhere.

[cyan tide]

It's server time, there's no way to change it afaik

[gray fox]

Ahh, I guess I’ve just never noticed that it was off before. Thanks 🙏

[twilit thistle]

Consumer protection agencies disagree. While they can do whatever the want, Breach of Contract, Non-Delivery, False Advertising, and Deceptive Practices would likely hold them back.

[hard forge]

Are there any rewards from playing catch in jm

[twilit thistle]

😭

[naive ingot]

Did they try?

[naive ingot]

No, just exploding your friends lol 😜

[cyan tide]

Need to win 30 games for one of the challenges

[twilit thistle]

Nobody tries.

[naive ingot]

😭

[pulsar coral]

it is just morgrans at the end of the day

[twilit thistle]

Think i found some lysis+ram tek tho

[pulsar coral]

going to need a morgrans carry tmr if you’re around, i’m looking to put up .16% damage and let you do the rest, i expect top 15 placement can you make this happen

[twilit thistle]

@neat valley Are you available with the HH I to feed me ||and do you have enough monster||

[pulsar coral]

if you and copy can’t do it no one can tbh, you’re my last resort

on a real note though, if you need someone to actually help with a decent run i’m pretty sure i added you and i’ll be on later tonight can push leaderboard if you’re down, just gotta make sure we at the very least get the bonus objective

You got more damage lol

[devout void]

routine

[pulsar coral]

Average Morgan’s hunt experience lol

[dim nexus]

I been lazy to grind

[twilit thistle]

The super secret classified tek using ram+ lysis.
||Dodge and shoot until you kill the boss. Spam the other ability 3x times. Rinse and repeat. It usually charges a dodge, if u do it right||

Once u get it going tho fr its essentially never going to stop. You will be constantly shooting, and constantly (with t6) doing a 360 degree attack.

[turbid field]

Jade rabbit Kabr lmao😭💀

[remote pelican]

I literally can’t wait

I really hope we get PvP leaderboards. Would motivate me 🤞

Rank 1 expanse for now! :DD

Mobile players rise

[half sky]

Guess not getting out of expert this time around 😭

[twilit thistle]

👀

[hushed crown]

[delicate mango]

Lol

[violet escarp]

Hi

[naive ingot]

Hi there

[sturdy geyser]

[naive ingot]

[limber pine]

I thought it will be added for iron games?

[twilit thistle]

||🍪 ||

[candid phoenix]

have they ever addressed why the blooming emblem looks so different from the one on the event page?

[twilit thistle]

There’s a PvP one that is similar

[candid phoenix]

the flawless iron banner one?

[naive ingot]

Iron bar 😔

[twilit thistle]

The other one

[celest robin]

So for everyone that was against Ikora the hidden prior to its release, how yall feeling about it now that you’ve been able to play with them?

New ikora is personally my favorite character so far, although I started after Jaren, HH, Maru, Estella and Gwynn..

[glacial elk]

I love Ikora!!

[brazen patrol]

Day two of asking for old character re runs

[twilit thistle]

Can u do me a favor and on day three can you ask for them to be added to the standard banner, but be 3x rarer than the current ones (and not purchasable from the shop). Ive been suggesting that for a while.

[tight talon]

Personally most wonky kit out of all T0 and T1

Feels hella incomplete

Being two launchers makes playing more janky.

Overall rather play Maru and Gwwyn than her

[celest robin]

Ah yeah that’s a good point, I got lucky on my first 2 hits being a double up and have had her T6 for most my time using them.

That’s unfortunate that it isn’t jiving on lower tiers

[tight talon]

And probably the first character

Even Jaren and Kabr didn't feel janky without their "bp" weapons

Old Prefect was decent didn't miss Last Word, Symmetry shined on Kabr

[prisma pond]

I am enjoying the new hairkora as well i just hope we'd had a void mythic option for her light gl

[celest robin]

Agreed. Atleast using the arc Lgl isn’t too terrible since her kit gives void damage to those shots.

Does come in handy on multi element runs to burn down arc and void combatants pretty effectively but the more options the better. Should have a mythic of all 3 elements for all weapon archetypes

[dense siren]

Hi I just wanted to see if they had changed weapons so you can use them all on any character yet?

[prisma pond]

Yeah that'll give more shield coverage.. i really hope they release more elements weapon for not just ikora but other chars too so we'll have more flexibility

[prisma pond]

Dont think that's happening mate.

[dense siren]

Lame

What was the point of the trivia questions when it came out?

🤷‍♂️

[celest robin]

Elaborate

[dense siren]

The review questions on weather or not we would prefer more universal weapon classes on any character.

There were feedback questions

[prisma pond]

Is that a beta thing?

[bitter estuary]

i assume thats for wolf/the mc

wolf prolly would get other classes i think

[dense siren]

I would like to use hand cannons on any character is all. Haven't played in a bit but on a new phone so thought I'd check it out.

Guess not

[prisma pond]

Well generally speaking i'd love to have the freedom of being able to use any weapon on any char as well but sadly i dont realistically see it happening tbh

[bitter estuary]

unless they stripped the gacha part from the start it wont be happening

[celest robin]

One of the reasons to ask that is to gather data on what players say they want/need compared to what they will spend and engage on.

Lot of players will say they want/need one thing but engagement and spending habits show another. Just another way to build a player profile and build a better overall data set on the player base to best monetize them.

[sharp talon]

the surveys asked about weapon restrictions iirc

[dense siren]

Guess I shouldn't get into this game then. Thanks for the info.

[celest robin]

No problem. But any live service game mobile or not is gathering this targeted data on you to best monetize you

[bitter estuary]

uhh well ok, just play warframe, its on android now if you're not on ios

[prisma pond]

Yeah from a business standpoint i dont see them doing it as well because a huge factor of pulling for new char is the skinka coverage so if any char can use any wep then people will do something like shoot rockets on helhest when its spread

[dense siren]

I am MR29 on warframe so I might lol

[celest robin]

Say majority of player base voted for open weapons and said they lacked interest in dozens of characters to fill out their arsenal capabilities while also showing that sentiment in their spending habits, they could easily pivot limited banners to new exotics as opposed to characters.

Heck, we’ll probably get weapon banners alongside characters in the future anyway

[dense siren]

To be quite honest I was expecting the universal choice with weapons since the real game has it.

[prisma pond]

The real game has a lot of stuff this doesnt. And the reason why is at its core they are different games. This is a gatcha game and all design philosophy stems from that..
In d2 we only have 3 classes so they couldnt really limit wep to particular char that'll be just stupid. We do have char specific swords but that gives them a sense of uniqueness

[celest robin]

True but keep in mind the real game at launch only had 2/3 subclass elements per class till Taken king.

More expansion on the mobile version in future isn’t completely out of the question. Just unlikely unless they find a way to make a more open weapon system a better ROI

[prisma pond]

Exotic wep banners is something i can see them doing in the future tbh

[dense siren]

Don't get me wrong I thought the character thing was cool af but was disappointed when I saw i couldn't use hand cannons on my favorite character. Maybe if they'd add like a character prestige that let's you choose what weapon class you wanted then I'd be interested.

[celest robin]

Something like the jade rabbit run but with spending required to fully complete.

I’m sure that was just a test run for the actual exotic monetization system

[prisma pond]

Could be. Having an option to skip exotic maxing by spending money is something a lot of people will pay good money on i assume

[wise siren]

Hope everyone had a great weekend, got some good drops and got the goals completed. Hope everyone has a great week

[stiff breach]

which would be better for ikora?

[sharp talon]

i personally would go for the 2nd one

[stiff breach]

finally maxed out my jaren dps stuff lol

[bitter estuary]

shield is better i think

[delicate mango]

I always find it hard to choose either more health or more shields

depending on what character you are using

[obtuse chasm]

Just go play destiny atp…

[obtuse chasm]

Oh brother… go outside bruh or go play something else this game is not for you, and it seems like you’re just throwing a fit because you can’t have exactly what YOU want, do better

[stiff vault]

I don't think I've ever seen people defend a game's utter lack of content or substance so hard as the people still playing this. You can't just tie yourself to an IP both in name and in setting and then hand wave away complaints about it not having core aspects as the original IP. The game is mostly dead, content is added at a snail's pace and the stuff that is added is just asking for money for a husk of a game once you put in 30 hours.

and yet if you bring any of this up shills will say "the game isnt for you, go outside smh" like this doesnt take less than a week to finish all the content in the game while working a 9-5

the game is coming up on being out for a year idk how yall can still defend this

[obtuse chasm]

How was the comment I replied to going to help grow the game as a whole?

Again just go play destiny atp…

[stiff vault]

lol. lmao.

never once have i seen people want a game to be good and be met with "go play something else"

[obtuse chasm]

Because he’s here complaining about aspects of the game that will never change, because it doesn’t fit the playstyle of the game…

You play marvel rivals your opinion on games is irrelevant anyways 😭

[stiff vault]

he gave his genuine opinion on the game, and it's a valid critique considering the franchise this game is from and you call that complaining

[stiff vault]

lmao ad hominem

wild coming from the person playing the dead destiny mobile gacha spinoff

[obtuse chasm]

It’s not a valid critique though… it’s a gacha game

[stiff vault]

lmao

[stiff vault]

lmfao

[obtuse chasm]

Wow I play something to pass the time at work on my lunch cuz I can’t bring a whole console with me?

Get a job

Then maybe you’d understand

[stiff vault]

i literally work 40 hours a week?

lmao ad hominem again

[obtuse chasm]

I remember my first part time job

[stiff vault]

40 hours is full time lol what that's a 9-5

[stiff breach]

im confused so someone is mad that characters have specific weapons?

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah

[stiff breach]

yet genshin, wuwa, and almost ever gotcha game does the same

[stiff vault]

no some guy just said he wished he could use hand canons as a newer player but he liked the idea of character concepts and this goober thinks that means hes mad

[obtuse chasm]

That is not what was said

[stiff vault]

and thats not what he said?

[obtuse chasm]

He wanted hand cannons on every character he deemed his favorite

Aka universal weapons

[stiff vault]

thats literally not what he said 💀

[obtuse chasm]

Okay

[stiff vault]

he literally just said he was disappointed

can you read or do you need to exaggerate everything

[obtuse chasm]

“I was expecting universal choice with weapons”

Take your own advice

[stiff vault]

woah its almost like this came from this crazy big hit looter shooter called destiny where thats the whole gameplay loop

god forbid the new player who came from the main game think thats going to be a mechanic

[stiff breach]

this is a gotcha game though

[obtuse chasm]

It’s almost like this is an entirely different game not canon to the franchise?

[stiff breach]

your not just playing 1 character

[stiff vault]

prob just doesnt play gachas

i dont think thats such an astronomical thing to imagine

[stiff vault]

and yet it's really not

[dusty spire]

9 2 5

(9 hours a day 2 days off 5 days a week)

[obtuse chasm]

And yet it quite literally is seeing as the weapons aren’t universal and it’s a gacha game…

[stiff vault]

statement remains exactly the same

[stiff vault]

lol whatever you say man

[obtuse chasm]

Argue with a wall your wrong and jumped in a convo spouting nonsense lol

[obtuse chasm]

Didn’t even know what was being said lol

[stiff vault]

bro your first reaction to me saying anything was for you to check my discord profile for things to insult me over im not gonna sit here and argue with someone who can't make a single statement in good faith who's been here for like a week when i've been here since the beginning

👍

[obtuse chasm]

Check your disc profile? You have a rvls tag…

Not all of us are lacking common sense nor do I care enough to “check your profile”

[dusty spire]

Games is fun and it’s ok

[stiff vault]

and yet your first reaction was to tell me my opinion on games is irrelevant over it 💀

[dusty spire]

Yes low activity

But it’s not dead

My only thing that grind my gears

Is doomers

[obtuse chasm]

How does that correlate with what you just said? Yes I did say that, but no I did not check your profile to do so, stay on topic

Just arguing to argue

[stiff vault]

LOL yeah you gotta nitpick the single like five word part of all of that to try and act like im wrong when the general point remains exactly the same

your first reaction was to just start insulting me im not gonna sit here and argue with someone who cant make a single statement in good faith lol

[obtuse chasm]

Nitpick? It was half of your entire paragraph you just sent…

[stiff vault]

the point

your head

you argue like a redditor have a nice night man

[obtuse chasm]

What does that even mean…

[bitter estuary]

anyways both games are made by netease

so either way they prolly will last longer than most games in the market

[obtuse chasm]

Both?

[bitter estuary]

yes both marvel rivals and destiny rising

[obtuse chasm]

Wait what?

[bitter estuary]

where winds meet also is made by netease

[obtuse chasm]

Marvel rivals is made by netease*

I didn’t realize that tbh

[bitter estuary]

naraka bladepoint? netease, dead by daylight mobile? netease, identity 5? netease too

[obtuse chasm]

I knew about where winds meet

[stiff vault]

crazy how you're gonna insult me over that when you know so little about the game 💀

[bitter estuary]

the only criticism i'd give to rivals is the fact you need 3 support for comp, thats it

[obtuse chasm]

I didn’t realize a game that I have no interest in playing was made by netease?

[stiff vault]

even as a supp main triple support makes me hate the game

[obtuse chasm]

Why does that matter

[bitter estuary]

huh

[stiff vault]

i pray for rivals to get role queue but until then i just play casually

[stiff breach]

i cant even play rivals cause people treat quickplay like its comp

[stiff vault]

yeah i havent played much this season bc of it

everyone's just insanely sweaty for zero reason

balance is also weird because they kept buffing support so DPS complained, and now TTK is impossibly quick or you're literally invincible

[devout void]

Rivals was so good until last summer, now the game look so bad, peak game at launch season 0,1,2

[stiff vault]

it was really good up until s4 but it's just in a weird spot now due to power creep

[bitter estuary]

erm ppl are still defending this because

• china is catching up with global, they combined gwynn/estela in one patch as well as maru/kabr R and now jaren/ikora H
• no content because all the changes will be made after march 26th
• just because it's a dead season doesn't mean it's a dead game
• content will resume as per usual after march 5th

[stiff vault]

dang guys i guess all our opinions on games are invalid because we played marvel rivals 🥀

[devout void]

Role queue is not the point of the game sadly

But its ok for me, switching a role mid game can make you clutch

[stiff vault]

a new banner with a guardian quest isnt really content. I mean it is, but not really enough given how long the game has been out.

wake me up when whatever they teased with that cinematic a few months ago got added, give me crota's end and the moon

[obtuse chasm]

Grow up

[stiff vault]

lmfao

[obtuse chasm]

The conversation was over

[stiff vault]

lmfao dude

[bitter estuary]

true, also the fact that there's only 2 new exotics that aren't battlepass related

symmetry is good only on kabr R, jade rabbit is horrid

[stiff vault]

yeah but like two new guns? after how long?

[bitter estuary]

3 months

which is wack honestly

[stiff vault]

the issue is the gap between "content" updates is so long that if the stuff added is a miss there's nothing worth really playing for until something that is worth adding

[stiff vault]

woah woah woah watch out, someone might tell you to go outside and touch grass

[bitter estuary]

so much resources i'm upgrading 4 stars

[stiff breach]

im just tryint go max my jaren's artifacts

[bitter estuary]

erm i haven't even grinded for the other guns lol, there's only like very few exotics worth looking for

[obtuse chasm]

Go outside

[bitter estuary]

why do you keep attacking him

🥀

[obtuse chasm]

I’m not he’s being passive aggressive based on our argument earlier

[stiff vault]

because he insulted me like right off the bat and i have zero reason to not be snide towards someone like that 🤷‍♀️

if you dont want me to be rude dont be rude to me ig

goes both ways

[devout void]

I dont need so much exotic it's already too hard to upgrade one

[obtuse chasm]

We got into it earlier and this was said, so they’re trying to throw shots even tho the conversation ended earlier

[stiff vault]

i just got all the ones when i was playing more just for the sake of having something to do

[stiff vault]

"we got into it earlier" i tried to discuss the game and you told me my opinion on games is invalid over my discord tag lol

i didnt get into anything, you were just being stuck up

[obtuse chasm]

Idc if you’re rude just odd that you’re still going on about it when we were ultimately arguing about a mobile game

[stiff breach]

wish there was a better way to get old battlepass weps other than the blackmarket

[rotund raptor]

True

[bitter estuary]

crota's end was such a bandaid fix because no one wanted to play shifting gates so they put them pvp guns in the crota's end lootpool 💀

[obtuse chasm]

And what ended up happening? We both insulted each other, “aka we got into it” I’ll just block you bro you’re acting like a child

[stiff vault]

whats odd is insulting someone you've never spoken too before right off the bat over something so trivial

[stiff vault]

lol please do

[stiff vault]

how they handled crota's end is why as much as i want this game to be good i just dont have much faith

[bitter estuary]

on top of the "grindable mods" like lmao 7% ain't gonna fix the game (it's 11%/30% in challenge/another calamity)

[rotund raptor]

What i want is just more story

[stiff vault]

^^^^^^^^^

[obtuse chasm]

Same

[bitter estuary]

i got the animated emblem and it was honestly painful because how attrociously buggy it was 💀

[stiff vault]

literally a gold mine for story and lore to come to life, we have people like jarren ward as literal playable characters and instead of making the rose/thorn saga playable they just turned him into generic gunslinger cowboy

it doesnt have to be canon just cool

[bitter estuary]

jaren was so fun to play with the story was mid

[stiff breach]

i wanted that but i had nobody to go with that weekend so i settled for the seasonal animated emblem

[stiff vault]

which was criminal

[bitter estuary]

bro i had to jump between 5 teams 😭

[devout void]

Did you do the tech to have 3 bp tokens slot in blackmarket, it help

[rotund raptor]

Still waiting for the story of kabbr and hikora

[stiff breach]

how you do that?

[stiff vault]

i also wish the pvp wasnt just a weekend only thing that was so dumb

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-i-used-to-pray-meek-mill-dreams-and-nightmares-dreams-and-nightmares-michael-jordan-gif-4600240804856944817

[bitter estuary]

why is iron bar not all week when the events are also all week until in ends

[devout void]

Buy every boats
Buy every catalyst from inventory with your campaign ressources

Wait reset blackmarket

[stiff vault]

there are just so many design choices that feel intended to limit accessable content

i remember the days where once you ran out of energy you literally couldnt even queue in the betas

and people had to beg them to change it to just not give rewards but let them run the activity

[rotund raptor]

If one get the blessing what is the most u can get on average

Can u get like 100k

[bitter estuary]

the whole system feels attrocious honestly, once it's done it's barely worth it to do

[stiff vault]

the entire gameplay loop feels like it exists to draw out the content because there isnt that much there compared to literally any of the competition

[bitter estuary]

other than

• bulwark endless (because you can solo, unlike strikes/blitz)
• chaos (artis)
• crota's end (mods)
  it's like not worth it at all to grind

[stiff vault]

that being said what's there is really good imo

there just needs to be more of it

[devout void]

100k seem a lot but it help + Lumia, as f2p this is the only thing i buy with sometime battle pass

[stiff breach]

feel like tower defense should stay lol

[rotund raptor]

I see ok ty

[bitter estuary]

true

[prisma pond]

Hope they add more solo content tbh

[stiff vault]

zero reason why it shouldnt be

we love FOMO

[bitter estuary]

because strikes/blitz is meh in endgame unless its gm

[prisma pond]

Dont want half my gametime to be sitting inside queues >.>

[stiff breach]

they need to add bots to the higher content if we keep losing players

[stiff vault]

there's so much stuff drising does that i also wish the main game did, like calamity ops essentially being ranked pve would have people drooling over rankings in d2

[stiff breach]

or atleast let me outfit the bot with my other built characters

[bitter estuary]

we will finally get new strike maps in s4

[stiff breach]

think i was sitting in for an hour for crota once

[bitter estuary]

that being said waiting more than 3 weeks is attrocious

[prisma pond]

D2 already has 3rd party rankings that those who care already drool over they even have dedicated inv only discord for that

[stiff vault]

trust me i know full well about third party rankings i was top 500 NA in gambit during joker's wild 😎

but the concept of ranked PVE as a game mode is something people would go crazy for

[stiff breach]

if i wanted any crota loot i have to drag my friend to deathsingers to duo and make him feel bad cause he couldnt out dps my t6 jaren lol

[stiff vault]

esp with the state of d2 raiding

[prisma pond]

I was as well for like 30min a couple of days ago then i thought to myself wth am i doing and closed the game

[stiff breach]

oh i was playing other games on 2nd monitor lol

[stiff vault]

playing a game to distract from queue times on another game because of lack of players is such a massive yikes

[prisma pond]

Single monitor pein

Truth be told i am yet to do my first run of crota.. whenever i get timme for drising i try to queue but never find a lobby and i really dont like waiting in queue so dont wait more than 10-20 min

[stiff breach]

i feel that but crota isnt bad its jsut people still for some reason not knowing any mechanics lol

[prisma pond]

The game is bleeding players thus i was hoping if they added more solo content it'll be good for those few of us who still play it

[restive ruin]

there was notable server desync on first 24 hrs of contest, apart from that it was fine and fun

[stiff breach]

not what i meant i mean we are this far into the season that randos dont know what the chalice is or how to give it to someone else

[restive ruin]

ah yeah sorry I thought people were still talking about the contest drop

[prisma pond]

Randos in normal blitz dont know how to shoot rockets into energy pods when its literally the only objective marker on screen so yeah i can imagine

[restive ruin]

can get encounters done like deathsingers faster as a duo than with some stacks of 6 😅

wanted to farm some mods one day with matchmaker and after 2 attempts that wasnt really practical lol

[obtuse chasm]

A lot of the player base is so used to being carried they can’t form a single thought of their own tbh

[prisma pond]

True. I would've asked if we'd had some sort of prerequisite before entering queue but looking at playercount i'd rather carry 5 dum dum than sit in another 20min queue atp

[stiff vault]

no i know, but even still that's just such a massive death rattle

[obtuse chasm]

Agreed

[stiff vault]

also doesnt help that advertising and spreading info about the game to a wider audience is just non-existent

[obtuse chasm]

I think the energy system in this game is mainly part of its downfall

A lot of things should just have a weekly or daily reward cap

Pinnacle energy shouldn’t be a thing

[prisma pond]

I think its mainly a lot of destiny players who were attracted to drising due to the franchise and never played or liked gatcha games so it must've been a huge disappointment for them that they dropped the game

[restive ruin]

need alot more dev feedback/participation after CNY even relative to before

CNY break*

[stiff vault]

thats just not gonna happen when they have other similar games popping tf off like where winds meet

[prisma pond]

Game has issues no doubt about it but looking at the main reason people say is like that's the norm inside a gatcha game and coming into it i personally half expected as much.

[stiff vault]

idk i feel like every other gacha in the market is releasing a lot more content than a new banner two new guns and a quest every three months

[restive ruin]

it was very well recieved but once the content drought happens and you are limited by pinnacle, none of my d2 friends kept up.

campaign also takes too long to complete because it is still tied to pinnacle so its hard to just jump in and start grinding to play with friends who have been.

the 40 pinnacle per day/60 on per day on weekends login bonus thing should have happened alot earlier as well

[stiff vault]

imo pinnacle energy should fully reset daily

[obtuse chasm]

Exactly pinnacle energy is one of the main downfalls queues are so bad because people are limited in what they can do

Daily reward caps or even weekly would’ve easily solved that

[restive ruin]

shouldn't even impact campaign progression, at least once the world map was unlocked which was like week 4 of the game or whatever

[stiff vault]

wow guys i can play like, four games of shadowshaper or whatever the card game is called i cant remember

[prisma pond]

True. Campaign being restricted to energy is a huge L. And looking at their last dev note looks like they are looking into a more permanent fix towards energy issue but some people are asking for it to be removed completely which is just not realistic thats one of the main modules of a gatcha game.

[obtuse chasm]

I think energy should still be a thing seeing as like you said most gatcha games have it, but it needs to have an entire rework of sorts

120 a day is nothing especially when you’re doubling down each run

Then what incentive is there to play after the fact?

[prisma pond]

Yep. And like i said i think the devs are aware of it and have said as such in their post that they are looking towards finding a permanent fix and in the meantime we have that 40 energy a day event atm

[obtuse chasm]

I’ll have to keep an eye out for info on it, but hopefully they do

[restive ruin]

yeah they did address a better new light experience, but there was an easy solve to what is already there.

The team exp you needed to level up can just be seperate from seasonal banner artifact exp and you can farm it with basic rewards.

Basically can just get done with campaign fast and not waste pinnacle energy on it and don't have to wait next day to start "chapter 2, 3, etc." Then you can start using it for legend campaign and sing chaos or whatever.

hopefully its sorted in s4 but damage was done on that end tbh

[prisma pond]

Tying energy to campaign is a huge negative it ruins the experience i just hope they discard that idea completely.

[restive ruin]

it was fine in like the first 3 weeks of the game when everyone was timegated togethor, no sense after that yeah

[prisma pond]

Yeah i genuinely thought that was a launch thing didint know its still in the game

Like every gatchas has a timegate on launch but they usually remove it after the game's been out for a bit

[restive ruin]

It stopped a few friends of mine getting into the game and others had the same issue I knew.
If you brough tthis up in October all you'd get in response was "well it's alot better new light experience than D2" which, while true, is reductive and irrelevant af

[prisma pond]

Ngl i dont even know what the new light expirence is in d2 at this time, they've tried improving it several times trying to polish that turd but its been a turd ever since...

[stiff vault]

It's non existent

[restive ruin]

it's awful and horrible lol

[prisma pond]

Figures

Bungie kinda gave up trying to get new players into the game

[stiff vault]

They have you go talk to all the NPCs, shaw han has you kill a wizard that killed his fireteam (lmao what a failure of a hunter) and then they give you a ship

Congrats you're a guardian now, here's 80,000 different quests and no explanations

[restive ruin]

after TFS and start of EOF it was just basically focused on making 2k hr players into 5k hour players into 10k hr players, completely gave up on anyone who isn't already pretty damn deep into the game

and in very very shameless ways

[prisma pond]

I mean like what'd you expect. "Hello new light would u like to try our awesome story and play with these cool wepons well that'll be 400$. You just gotta take this check list of 1000 of dlc you gotta buy one after another to get the final product :)"

[stiff vault]

I sorta saw the writing on the wall during the witch queen seasons and mostly checked out, then lightfall was terrible so i used the final shape (10/10 perfect ending for the franchise) as my guardian's "riding off into the sunset" moment

[restive ruin]

you can get basically all the expansion content previous to the current season $60-70 ngl, it's the dungeon keys that are pretty stupid

[stiff vault]

And then after they wrote a beautiful perfect ending that wrapped up the entire decade long franchise they said "sike nah we're copying warframe now" and made edge of fate

[prisma pond]

They've lost their drive for the game plain and simple. I mean no joke they literally said as much in a dev insight that they dont want to keep working on the same destiny because you tend to get tired of doing the same thing and were looking forward to newer projects.

[restive ruin]

edge of fate was just horrible horrible horrible, zero clue what they were thinking 🥀

[stiff vault]

I remember the days where events didnt have passes, they were just for fun and community building. I remember when dungeons and raids were included. I remembered when deluxe got you everything in the dlc.

[restive ruin]

the raid and dungeon team is fire though

[prisma pond]

I clicked uninstall after the final shape raid tbh. Didnt even bother going through with whatever the acts they launch afterwards, for me d2 ended with TFS

[stiff vault]

By the time final shape finished I'd checked off my bucket list so i happily haven't paid attention to anything d2 related. I got my day 1 top 500 clear, got a raid jacket and never cared about raiding again.

[restive ruin]

nice nice

[stiff vault]

They removed all the banger raids anyway

Give me back scourge of the past bungie, how dare you turn the sickest boss in the game into a fodder enemy 😭

[prisma pond]

I did saw people complain about game being too grindy as of late so i guess rip to those still playing

[restive ruin]

qol is much better but games on lifesupport, they did too much damage with EoF

[prisma pond]

Wait long enough you might just see it revive inside drising xD

[stiff vault]

Yeah they screwed over the people who actually cared about the game so the only ones still there are the people playing purely for the sake of bigger numbers

[restive ruin]

and content drought for d2 with the delay and stuff

[stiff vault]

Like they literally had a sunsetting 2 essentially and reworked the entire gear system and gameplay loop to be about grinding your power level and regrinding it every season

[prisma pond]

Its plain and simple sunk cost fallacy. People just cant quit now even if they know they getting f'kd over

[stiff vault]

Yeah pmuch

[restive ruin]

they axed the regrind part of it, but the initial grind was about 200 hours of playtime to hit max light level so... it was really bad

now its much easier, but damage was done.

[surreal berry]

#social-media message !!! 😄

[stiff vault]

There are some people that never engaged beyond the surface level of "i have the gear i like and i kill aliens with it" and the game is so dead that they're a sizable portion of the remaining players

[restive ruin]

d2 is pretty much the deadest its ever been I think, even those people are not logging on 🕊️

[prisma pond]

I do feel the pain for them tho. Took me a lot to quit as well as someone who has like 10k+ hours in it and was part of an awesome community of idiots who loved raiding in d2... sad to see it all end but sometimes you just have to move on

[surreal berry]

COMP EVENT for 20 Days!
Roman number: X X Days

[stiff vault]

It was so wild seeing seasons like worthy be this low point of "omg the game is in a really bad spot the game has never had this few players" amid the height of content droughts, and now full priced DLC release to lower player count peaks than the lowest points of some of the worst season in d2's history

The season where logging in once a week to see the shadow on the sun of the big death ray slowly get more visible over the course of three months was the only real content had more players than edge of fate peaked at

[prisma pond]

Thank god it wasnt 30days

[surreal berry]

I was meant to reply to my own post... Apologies @restive ruin

[restive ruin]

no probem 🙂

[prisma pond]

I think i've heard aztecross mention currently d2 is in a worse shape than that of curse of osiris and that's just wild to hear ngl

[restive ruin]

yeah it is

[stiff vault]

It has been for a minute now, content creators just have nothing left to use to avoid admitting it

[surreal berry]

I still haven't completed my Destiny Light saber colours

(Praxis saber)

[stiff vault]

4 months of nothing after an arguably nothing burger season/dlc/episode/whatever renegades was is essentially no content for half a year

[prisma pond]

That truely is sad to see. Seeing something you enjoyed so much die a slow death 😐

[restive ruin]

well I mean I dont even think current D2 players are asking for much anymore except for D3 and the wait will be like 3-5 years at least.

1 more raid and dungeon, Pantheon 2.0 confirmed. Then they can also run an extended Age of Triumph

I think that would be pretty good while D3 is worked on idk

[stiff vault]

It was also really funny seeing Bungie invite old CCs that were disenfranchised with the game and had moved on to seattle to try renegades early like they did in d1 trying to win them back only for them to cut ties with said CCs when they said it wasn't doing anything for them

[prisma pond]

We're more likely to get a half life 3 before d3...
I mean joke aside idk if d3 gonna fix the underlying issue even, which is the current bungie.

[surreal berry]

So... players would perfer keep Destiny to stay online.
But do not want Destiny 2... to be online?... (Destiny 3 to replace Destiny 2?...)

[stiff vault]

Bungie cant afford d3 and likely will never be able to

Marathon and not ending things at final shape guaranteed that

[restive ruin]

I dont think many people are interested in the state of D2 as is anymore. These seasonal beats are just not working, a cliff hanger and a real future, it's about time for that tbh

[prisma pond]

Oh yeah marathon launched right? Has anyone gotten around to trying it ?

[stiff vault]

Marathon is solid tho, just needs something to set it apart. If you don't like extraction shooters i get it, but if you don't mind them ignore all the hate you probably saw it get from people who played for 20 minutes.

[prisma pond]

Lol i totally forgot about that

[stiff vault]

They did a server slam from the 26th to the 2nd at 1pm est

There's still like 10 hours left

[prisma pond]

Ah i see

[stiff vault]

I played it a bunch and i liked it alot they just played it incredibly safe

They've been listening to pmuch all feedback across the betas tho which was insane to see from bungo

Game is a solid 7.2/10, with a little work and some spice it could be a solid 8.5

[prisma pond]

Lowkey i hope marathon succeed so they have some dough for destiny but i think thats just copium at this point

[stiff vault]

The focus on it being "the pvp extraction shooter" is also nice because they simplified the heck out of everything for the sake of streamlining combat

You dont have to worry about tarkov levels of armor and kit and ammo etc.

Take a shield some meds some ammo and a gun

Go wild

[stiff vault]

It wont go into destiny

[prisma pond]

Extraction shooter is such a niche genere tho.. i hope they get some actual playerbase

[stiff vault]

It wont have that level of success unless arc raiders shuts down the servers like tomorrow

It 100% will have a dedicated playerbase

[restive ruin]

who knows what can happen, either way bungie needs a win soon

[prisma pond]

Oh yeah arc raiders exists oof thats a tough competition

[stiff vault]

Just wont be big unless they really do something to set it apart

Arc raiders and marathon fill two different niches tho

[prisma pond]

They certainty do.

[restive ruin]

it's server slam atm for marathon, not full release, so alot of the draw for Marathon the secrets of the maps (lore, pve mechanics, puzzes) etc isn't available

so right now you have alot of strict pvpve extraction gameplay which is sounding better as the days go, but I dont think the numbers are inspiring

[stiff vault]

Arc raiders is like the pve casual-ish extract shooter with the focus being more on the robots and pvp having longer TTKs. Marathon is the polar opposite in terms of the focus being pvp with quick TTKs and solid gunplay

[restive ruin]

we will see idk, genres not for me but I would try it if I was in NA and on good ping with friends. but only with friends, cant imagine solo playing marathon

[prisma pond]

I'll check it out when it launches on twich maybe.. lets see how it looks..
I havent really kept up with marathon news so idk what to expect

[stiff vault]

As an og crucible gremlin i think the gunplay feels really good

Thank god they at least got that right

Combat is great

[restive ruin]

should be bungies forte that and sound design

[stiff vault]

If only they did that with d2 tho

[restive ruin]

d2 they neglected, but gunplay and movement are very strong selling points

[stiff vault]

Sound design is great ive genuinely been able to perfectly sneak around and avoid/engage teams purely based on audio

You can tell who is shooting what guns even from across a POI just like in d2

[restive ruin]

true true

[prisma pond]

D2 pvp was a graveyard still better than gambit but thats hardly a plus..
I think they yoinked the pvp team and made them put all the juicy stuff in marathon

[restive ruin]

bungie neglecting d2 pvp was a huge blow to the game unironically

oh well

[stiff vault]

Having now played marathon yeah im psure that's what happened

[restive ruin]

yeah they laid them off after promising they would invest into them + give map packs by last may or whatever lol

[prisma pond]

The game did have a huge pvp playerbase. I remember one guy in my clan doing 8hrs of pvp everyday and never running anything else not even strikes bro was hooked

[stiff vault]

It feels like d2 pvp probably would have if it kept getting love and support for like two or three more years

[restive ruin]

d2 pvp playerbase was a big part of their playtime floor when there was content drought for pve

but the sheer amount of cheaters, lack of pvp content and loot, reworks to loot, yeah

[prisma pond]

It was never consistent tho which i didnt like they nerf and buff stuff too frequently and its either too broken or outright useless most of the time

[stiff vault]

Whenever i finished the seasonal content I'd put in a full valor rank reset in a day and then log off during forsaken

[restive ruin]

and really long stretches of meta that were blatantly overtuned

[stiff vault]

their biggest mistake was after they neglected the pvp community, they started pandering to the casuals who just wanted to be able to load in, get their bounty done and then leave for essentially free rewards

it put crucible in such a weird state around when witch queen released

[restive ruin]

you get insane loot drops from losing trials games now

[stiff vault]

dude modern d2 players would melt tf down if they had to do the OG pinnacle gun quests

MT and recluse, hell even the last word's quest that simply required you to have a .85 k/d or better with hand cannons

[restive ruin]

I wouldnt know I started in WQ tbh lol

[stiff vault]

oh lol you poor soul

[restive ruin]

I liked WQ 😄

[stiff vault]

the two best guns the game ever had introduced

the loadout that caused sunsetting

and the requirements were monumental

2100 points in comp was max rank in competitive

OG pinnacle guns all had absurd unlock requirements in return for being the best non-exotic guns in the entire game having their own unique exoticesque perks and they were meant to take the entire season to complete

a lot of the time they'd take multiple seasons if not entire DLCs to finish

[stiff vault]

witch queen was great the seasons just sucked

[restive ruin]

soundsa bout right, Ive heard about their glory days before for sure. I think if I had to do those quests right now I'd tilt because I jsut wouldnt find enough games lol

[stiff vault]

yep

back in the days where pvp had a solid playerbase

all three core game modes got a different pinnacle every season and they were all really fun

21% delirium was one of the gambit pinnacles and it would increase from 600-900 RPM based on kills, increase damage and overflow the mag on every kill so you were walking around with a minigun

[prisma pond]

Omg i remember grinding for that. Tbh recluse was easy to get but mountain top sweet jesus those 2in1 gl kill medal suck the life out of me ;-;

Then came the next contender isluna and redrix

[stiff vault]

recluse was easy if you had friends to do it with

[stiff vault]

people over here with their participation award redrix broadsword, me over here with my redrix claymore like a ww2 vet

[prisma pond]

No cap i went into d2 discord and said i am noob need yelp and awesome person sorta carried my but into 2200 xD

[stiff vault]

i fought in the trenches of wormhusk crown spam for that thing

and then they just handed it out for essentially free 😭

[stiff vault]

thats literally all there is to do in the end game now

adopting a new player and just speedrunning the content for them

just as a change of pace

[prisma pond]

I mean back then i was sorta new to the game with blue weapons getting my a55 handed to me xD so those guys really did do me a huge favour

[stiff vault]

i did that for a few people over the years purely so i had something to do during content droughts

taught them all the tech and knowledge they'd need and then speedran them to endgame because god knows the game wasnt gonna explain any of it

[prisma pond]

Yeah its fun carrying new people in a game u have spent hours on i became a raid sherpa in my later days and in my clan i carried any new joinee well ofc someone gonna teach the rookie to shoot the heart after queenswalk for guaranteed 1k voices :3

[stiff vault]

i sherpad so much in the lead up to all the old raids being vaulted it was a lot of fun even if some of the people were a little stoopid

[prisma pond]

Or how to run away from the burning servitor in SoTP

[stiff vault]

coming to a raid run with blue guns and no exotics like "what do you mean i wont do enough damage 😭"

scourge was the best raid to learn first imho

it was the most fun raid, all the gear was great, literal mario kart sparrow racing

plus i got anarchy to drop 25 times across 50 clears because of some god like RNG

[prisma pond]

Thats why you always do a 4-2 4 people who are well equiped and 2 baby guardians :3 i've carried people who's done same dps and my primary wepon through the raid successfully xD they then think raid is easy and go into lfg only to get reckt

[stiff vault]

i always did the opposite of just getting 4 newbies to do the mechanics and learn and then one of my clanmates or speedrunner friends to make up for any lost DPS

figured i'd let them have fun with the puzzles and such and get into the cool parts of raiding and not worry about the DPS checks

[prisma pond]

Nah you gotta hold their hands through each mechanics to really teach 'em.. its just better that way so someday they can be part of the 4 who are teaching to newbies

[stiff vault]

i remember sherpaing garden of salvation like day 2 of it being out and that was an experience i never want to go through again

[stiff vault]

oh yeah of course i wasnt just telling them nothing and letting them figure it out, but i gave them the free reign to pick roles, divide up teams and pick from different strats i offered

[prisma pond]

GoS is realitevely chill raid until the very ladt part where you gotta tether

[stiff vault]

GoS is a chill raid now but when it was added it was considered the most "difficult" raid

it was the only raid in the game at the time where you couldnt just carry someone on ad clear the entire time bc of how the mechanics worked

[prisma pond]

It was izanagi + wendigo wombo combo days.. ah good ol times

Ngl raids in d2 were peak gaming

[stiff vault]

peak raiding

i still wear my raid jacket from deep stone crypt during the winters and love telling people about it when they ask

imho d2 raiding is one of the best experiences in gaming

esp a day 1 raid

[prisma pond]

I wish they shipped where i live as well so i could've gotten one ;-;

[stiff vault]

i got the code for the GoS bomber jacket but didnt have the cash and i was so bummed

that one was such a slick design

[prisma pond]

Agreed. I've seen raids and played raids in other games nothing comes even remotely close to d2 raiding

D2 has everything. Mechanics, parkour, action gameplay, challenging enemies (at least for the first time) and it doesnt tell you what to do, you go in and figure it out no hand holding

[stiff vault]

everything except a dev team that wants to make it as good as it used to be

🥀

d2 pve mechanics have been dumbed down to stand in circle, throw ball at pillar or connect the dots using your bodies

[restive ruin]

nah nah, SE and desert perpetual raid were all very fairly mechanically heavy

epic raid for desert perpetual was extremely mechanics based, almost no one runs that raid on lfgs because no one wants to teach that

destiny IP still very strong anyways, hopefully marathon does well and gets bungie good boy points with Sony and bigger things are green lit

[dusty spire]

Talk about neteas showing their balancing prowess 😅 some how it lingered looool

[restive ruin]

if only we got the same level of dev feedback as MR though

would be awesome

[surreal berry]

"adopting"... Noice...

That's what World of Warcraft End game players do...

[surreal berry]

HOW does ONE GO to Claim the CODE for this Jacket?...

[surreal berry]

What activity?

[stiff vault]

you dont

you needed to beat the raid in the first week that came out, you then collected the in game triumph and you were emailed a code corresponding to your triumph

thats how raid jackets work

[surreal berry]

oh bummer....

[stiff vault]

its only for the people who beat it during week one, originally it was only for the people who cleared it during the 24 hour raid race on day 1

[surreal berry]

Maybe I'll look into Bungie Store and see what jackets (requiring a Code) that is still active

[stiff vault]

none afaik

like i said it's very much a limited time thing

you cant buy one unless you unlock the code for purchase similar to triumph seal pins/medals and some of the quest exotic models

[surreal berry]

That's what I meant.

[stiff vault]

plus dont be one of those guys that spends an absurd amount of money for a jacket with someone else's name on it

there's resells but at that point its like buying a finisher medal for a race you never ran in

[surreal berry]

"someone elses name on it"...
(game company names)
🤣

[bitter estuary]

guys is undaunted spiral better for jaren now? idk

[stiff vault]

the whole point of the accomplishment is d2 raids explain nothing, everyone goes in blind, if you got a raid jacket its because you did it before there was any strats or optimization

[celest robin]

Reminder to talk to Wu Ming for your daily 5 rep points with the black market

[kindred nymph]

I'm pretty sure people get their character names or whatever affixed to it.

[celest robin]

Custom name is optional I believe and on a removable part of the clothing.

Either way, I wouldn’t get the jackets anyway. Too expensive for what it’s usually made with and usually looks dorky lol

[stiff vault]

the current ones have it as a velcro patch like my DSC one, the GoS one had your username stitched into the right arm patch and its sewn in

[celest robin]

Different each time and optional I suppose. The upcoming one looks to just have a detachable piece for the custom name

[stiff vault]

yes, as i said the current ones have it as a velcro patch

[celest robin]

Gotcha. Missed that part. I came into this late

[stiff vault]

the old ones, as seen in the photo i posted and any pics you look up online of the bomber jacket design, had it stitched into a sewn in patch

[surreal berry]

Years ago to Unlock the Triumph for the Jumper with [The Nine] Design on...
I got that Grey jumper

[stiff vault]

my brother has that one

[celest robin]

My bad. Chimed in tail end of it without context on what discussion came before

[stiff vault]

all good 👍

[celest robin]

Also pet and feed a cat

[surreal berry]

I don't natually go feed kitties...

Because Not always in the mood to go Fishing.

[celest robin]

Atleast pet for first freebie. Poor little things starved for love

[surreal berry]

Open
Online
World Aint the same as A Tamagotchi

They R NPC like other interactive NPC

[golden spade]

Btw, whats the god roll for Parole (void hand cannon) for jaren? (Thinking of upgrading to have all elements covered)

[naive ingot]

Don't get any when your maxed rep with The Drifter...

[lunar jay]

whomst rising next banner? Or rerising idk

[livid sable]

why do people beg for profile likes in game lmao

[torpid agate]

Because people love to feel important or popular

[livid sable]

its so sad

[red geyser]

[tight talon]

For emblem

Mentor stuff

[surreal fulcrum]

.

sup

[elder wing]

Can they just end this Ikora era already. Dear god

[thin storm]

Are there any French people? To play if possible?

[celest robin]

https://tenor.com/view/who-would-have-thought-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-i-didnt-see-it-coming-who-would-have-seen-that-coming-gif-22234514

[surreal berry]

so... Maru's Barrier counts as a summon?...

[surreal berry]

It's FOR the Triumph.

[golden spade]

Yes

[tender swift]

Thanks. I've been back in the game a little. Building up waiting for the new story line. I've been telling people about it. Trying to get new players for the game. This info might help that. 👍

[ocean girder]

I played in the Alpha or beta (can’t remember) but I haven’t played since, I just got it on my computer to play! Does anyone have any tips for anything I should do to help remember how to play and what to do?

[celest robin]

Important tip, when your reticle is lined up with an enemy press left mouse button to shoot a projectile or swing your sword. This will damage the enemy and after enough clicks you will defeat said enemy.

The rest is self explanatory

[ocean girder]

Thank you! Any tips are appreciated!

[celest robin]

On the real though, if you’re still working through the campaign be sure to look at when it tells you character upgrade refunds stop. It’s around chapter 7 I believe? Can’t remember. But it tells you in game that point of no return.

Best thing to do before proceeding is to refund every character except wolf and choose 2 other mains you like to upgrade alongside him to start.

You’ll save yourself some timegating headache and be better equipped to efficiently grind those mats for the rest of the characters in the endgame

[ocean girder]

Thank you! I’ll do my best to remember this!

[harsh berry]

This whole season has just been three heroes carrying everybody through GM and raid farms

[inner sinew]

Bulwark ops was a nice distraction though

[harsh berry]

Yeah its easy at least to clear up to round 20 with more or less the same setups (Muqam, Hoof, Anesthesia base)

I didn't realize that so i put off grinding level xp

3 man is a gamble because you'll have one teammate that starts to falter in the first boss wave

Its a lot more fun that i gave it credit for. Too easy at the start, too stubborn to understand the changes and make the adjustments at the time

[dim fractal]

#lfg-great-hunt need people for bridge under 7 min pls

[pulsar coral]

For the last two weeks, this game has felt like clocking into a job that you don’t really enjoy but you show up anyways cause you wanna get paid. Can anyone relate? lol

[neat valley]

I haven’t been playing

[neat valley]

I’ve been playing other game releases

[neat valley]

I would only log on everyday if I actually was having fun not punishing myself 😂

[devout void]

I was sure we had a raid in march or im wrong

[neat valley]

I never saw anything about it being in march

[empty kettle]

"Efrideet event" ?

[harsh berry]

Oh god a pvp event

[devout void]

Idk can someone show the old roadmap pls

[pulsar coral]

Thanks for sharing this. I can’t wait for grandmaster!! lol

[leaden epoch]

Does it make sense to just use the same Rampaging Pact for both Maru and Ikora?

vs something like Safeguarding Blazar for Maru

[indigo solar]

Mysterious visitor

[indigo solar]

Yes

[devout void]

Gauntlet onslaught is not raid ?

[indigo solar]

It is

[devout void]

Oh ok mysterious

[dusty spire]

Doomers incoming

[dusty spire]

Gaged

[devout void]

Ok nice then

[indigo solar]

Hopefully GM has meaningful rewards this time

[upbeat forge]

Morning

[wide dagger]

New stuffies

[surreal berry]

#social-media message
March 5th maintencance

[dusty spire]

@naive ingot

[twilit thistle]

||We both know the answer💀||

[indigo solar]

What do yall think this icon is for

[obtuse folio]

Morgans?

[twilit thistle]

The mystery visitor 🤓

[white ice]

it's clearly an insect for funny datamined bee man

trust

fr fr

[elder wing]

100% exactly my thoughts

The looks of it we are actually getting a new character 💯

[surreal berry]

or Hive?...

[elder wing]

Could be. But beee man could be more likely as it was in the leaks

[brave raven]

Looks like an ahamkara or a lucent moth

But the latter makes no sense

[indigo solar]

Oh now that you say that it definitely is an ahamkara, probably the one in RSR we'll kill in s4

Gonna be another teaser thing like the IX balls in Haven

[empty kettle]

Ahamkara

[elder wing]

S4 full reveal is actually quite promising ngl. We might even get some sick trailer before Thursday 26

[obtuse folio]

waiting for the pinnacle energy rework

[elder wing]

Content creators finally have some to post 🤣

Mysterious visitor???? Who it might be the thumbnail 🤣

[dusty spire]

Visitor

Probably someone to drop hikora a gift

[white ice]

Visitor and it's just a 3 step quest to have him visit places in Haven. He then leaves and is never brought up again for 2 years

[elder wing]

Dk about that but we might actually be getting a new character lol that full s4 reveal is exiting

[dusty spire]

You know what I’m waiting on 😬🫠

[half sky]

New character confirmed!

[naive ingot]

Efrideet is a Hunter, Iron Lord. She took over the Iron Banner in Destiny 1 whilst Saladin was doing Rise of Iron...

[surreal berry]

disagree...

[dusty spire]

So we going back to limited banner now 😬?

[sharp talon]

solar rapidfire efrideet

what exotic do you think she'll have?

[naive ingot]

Piercing too, known to use snipers

[mossy holly]

Redoing GM Campaign event is a waste of resources

[dusty spire]

She’s the cover up

Real deal using jotuun

Impact time

[sharp talon]

oh thats interesting. a piercing/rapid fire char

[dusty spire]

Lots of solar impact too tbf

[sharp talon]

i think its gonna be rapid fire heavy

[dusty spire]

Impact / spread

[naive ingot]

Maybe.

[dusty spire]

Then arc rapid / pierce lol

[sharp talon]

if its impact 🔥

[naive ingot]

(void impact whennnn..)

[obtuse folio]

telesto

[dusty spire]

Been calling for impact / spread solar
Or impact / rapid solar

[half sky]

Let me hope dont kill the vibe😔 we find out soon anyway

[surreal berry]

Jolder & Gweynn

[dusty spire]

I do think we will get a longer rapid cycle

Like in terms of how many acts it appears in

[naive ingot]

As in back in rotation.... Had arc piercing twice and void spread twice now

[dusty spire]

We are missing
Solar titan
Arc warlock
Void hunter

[naive ingot]

Yet solar rapid once....

[dusty spire]

In the limited myth pool

[sharp talon]

i wonder how many things they are gonna add if they are gonna do a reveal event

sounds so fire ngl

[dusty spire]

Ready to gage now that we are coming out of the slower period

[half sky]

Only one character can use this type

[sharp talon]

ye. pvp event in 3 days kinda hyped for that then s4 😄

[naive ingot]

This is Efrideet...

[dusty spire]

Don’t 😅 I don’t want solar cursed with that

Give it to arc

🤣

[sharp talon]

i saw this image, pretty cool

[austere portal]

Let's bet; The next character will have primary RL and heavy RL. It will be Void and the cycle will have Piercing & Spread Shinkas 😄 😄

[surreal berry]

All RAPID-Fire Characters
(Rapid/Balst) and we have P/R=

[naive ingot]

Jolder is rapid/impact

[dusty spire]

Finnala

[naive ingot]

So is finnala

[dusty spire]

Only one hero uses this though lol

[surreal berry]

so.. Whom?...

[sharp talon]

it will be rapid fire / spread i think

[dusty spire]

And it ain’t for him

Clearly for a solar proc

Dot squad incoming

[naive ingot]

Need more legendary characters too, one that uses sidearms

[sharp talon]

i wonder how she will compete with ning fei if it is rapid fire heavy. hard to beat ning speed and maha deleting rapid fire shinkas

[surreal berry]

@naive ingot Yes. Forgot to throw in Jolder in the comment
R/IM

[dusty spire]

Add nerf modifier 😂

Like arc expanse lol

To make defence viable lll

[naive ingot]

She'll be better. Because theres only one place for Ning.... The bin

[dusty spire]

They added an extra mod

[sharp talon]

facts

i hate ning fei

[indigo solar]

Arc piercing

[sharp talon]

if its arc piercing again omfg

[surreal berry]

ning Fei can stay in PVP modes

[indigo solar]

We're back to the proper schedule

Kabr and Ikora-H were event chars

Now that China is synced we're back to what we should be

[dusty spire]

🤣🫠

[indigo solar]

Arc piercing follows void spread

[sharp talon]

they just want to blue ball us for helhest if its arc piercing AGAIN

[naive ingot]

No more arc piercing, we just had it with Kabr 2.0, don't need it again for a LONG time

[indigo solar]

Ah wait sorry arc rapid

[sharp talon]

Actually i dont mind it that much cuz jaren can do arc expanse really well

[indigo solar]

Mb

Misremembered

[sharp talon]

it says solar is next though?

[naive ingot]

Thunderlord?? As the bp weapon maybe

[dusty spire]

I need piercings done for a while

[pulsar coral]

Dang, why??

[indigo solar]

?

[dusty spire]

Let’s move into close range now

Close range and medium range battles will be the next cycle focuses

[sharp talon]

oh wait im tripping

[obtuse folio]

[dusty spire]

We had medium to long range for a while

[surreal berry]

GIMMIE!!!!

[pulsar coral]

Trying to sell Kabr lol

[dusty spire]

I’m not complaining 😬

[indigo solar]

Tbh I expect AR/Sniper

But we'll see

[dusty spire]

Team Titan so far so good 😅

Wants solar now

[indigo solar]

Saladin S6

[naive ingot]

Me too. Glad I've 100% his lore entries and back to the bottom he goes.

[dusty spire]

😅😩😩😩😩

[sharp talon]

i dont like how he plays

too bad hes the fastest unit 🙁 eating jaren's lunch

[obtuse folio]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-destiny2-shaxx-lord-shaxx-crucible-gif-15526551

[pulsar coral]

I can see next character, impact/ rapid fire.

They have to do rapid fire next season

[devout void]

ahamkara raid then the vex raid that is finished

[dusty spire]

Impact / spread keep last seller viable

Otherwise your benching hikora quickly lol

[pulsar coral]

We haven’t had rapid fire since Sept!

[dusty spire]

I get it but I don’t feel like hikora gonna get hard benched like that

[exotic sinew]

It’ll be rapid/spread for sure

[pulsar coral]

I agree, someone that can have a spread as heavy and primary as something else would outshine her

Probably next spread cycle and it won’t be a void character

[pulsar coral]

Late summer probably

[cyan tide]

I don't think they'll do spread on heavy, if anything heavy is almost guaranteed to be rapid fire

[pulsar coral]

That’s what I’m saying. It has to be a rapid fire heavy

Primary could be anything lol

[exotic sinew]

I can see Auto and LMG then Impact after that(Fusion rifle and Sword maybe)

[pulsar coral]

If Act 2 is impact, I could see primary impact/ heavy rapid

[exotic sinew]

Maybe Tolund with Pulse(Bad Juju) and Crossbow but I think the next unit is Solar

[pulsar coral]

That’s what they did with Jaren lol

[exotic sinew]

I don’t see another dual impact unit this soon

[pulsar coral]

I definitely think, rapid fire for heavy. They wouldn’t do double solar rapid fire character because of Estella

[exotic sinew]

Sure they would

[pulsar coral]

I’m even thinking of an Estella re-run soon lol

[exotic sinew]

Look at Ikora and Maru

[pulsar coral]

Ikora was a filler character

[exotic sinew]

They’d just make a Solar unit who’d differ from Estela and is faster

Not really. Filler for us but not China

She outperforms Maru in most cases too

[pulsar coral]

Power creep smh. Poor Maru

[indigo solar]

Efrideet (S4A1) is Arc. The S4A2 character should be solar piercing

[pulsar coral]

I think they could buff old characters whenever the re-run comes.

[exotic sinew]

So we going back to arc again? I want to be rid of HH already

Should just go to solar and push her out of the way

[pulsar coral]

No way they skip over solar lol

[indigo solar]

They don't skip solar

Kabr and Ikora aren't part of the cycle

We haven't gotten the arc cycle character

(Also Efrideet is a Bladedancer in lore)

[cyan tide]

Void > solar > arc > void > solar > | arc > void > | arc

[pulsar coral]

They changed Ikora weapons so I’m sure they can change this new character up lol

[elder wing]

It has to be Rapid/Piercing!!! They better give us some long ahh rapid as they skipped on that for 66 years now. They better

[indigo solar]

Ikora and Kabr were to sync us with China

Now that China is caught up it's back to cycle

For them it's no interruption

Since they had the cycle character and the event character running simultaneously

[exotic sinew]

We have went from Arc Precision to Void Spread to Solar Impact to Arc Precision to Void Spread. Even if China was Arc > Void > Solar, it doesn’t feel good to everyone else when it’s been twice as long

Guess it’s just bad planning from the jump and this is the best they could do, since China had newer players it’s better to keep them

[delicate mango]

Hopefully when there's an anniversary we can get rerun of old characters to t6

[exotic sinew]

Delayed releases for games are never good tbh

If it takes a whole year to get a rerun that’s crazy

[delicate mango]

Indeed

I wonder if they will do a community pull where we get to choose who to bring back into the limited banner

I still want my Jaren t6

[tight talon]

If it took that much time to bring China up to speed

Next one better be Arc Rapidfire

[exotic sinew]

Going off the web, Efrideet uses Solar knives, a spear, and snipers

[exotic sinew]

Felt long to us. Not long to them

So idk how Efrideet would be arc rapid

[tight talon]

Was referencing pattern that i already established ages ago

[exotic sinew]

Ah

[brave raven]

In destiny 1 none of those existed until the taken king right? Maybe that's connected

[weak ginkgo]

She'll come as Solar

[tight talon]

We stopped at Jaren (Solar Impact)

Next is Arc Rapidfire

If Efrideet is next, then yeah she's gonna be another Solar Impact.

[twilit thistle]

Estela mains:

[exotic sinew]

Tan said she’s arc, and after her it’ll be solar precision

[tight talon]

That's a big jump

[empty kettle]

So.. she will become a 4* then?

[tight talon]

No clue tbh. Was there a new leak recently?

We also had a Void BeeKeeper lined up

But that's surely Void Precision

[exotic sinew]

Arc Precision(HH), Void Spread(Maru) Solar Impact(Jaren), is apparently China’s cycle. So Arc Rapid should be next…

Confusing

Solar Precision after

Then Arc Impact

She may be a plasma user. Uses Solar to the extent she makes plasma

[twilit thistle]

Why would solar come after arc?
-> ->

[exotic sinew]

Going off Tan’s word

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar esplain

[exotic sinew]

See

Explains it well

Gwynn, Estela, Helhest, Maru, Jaren. Kabr and Ikora aren’t included. Efrideet (Arc Rapid) would be next as they say, then Solar Precision

[twilit thistle]

That doesn’t make any sense tho and breaks the previous cycle. I had mapped it out till 2027 in s1, it would have been void precision after arc rapid fire

[empty kettle]

Kabr and Ikora are event banners, so they should not count in the cycle

[weak ginkgo]

We might see Efredeet with arby....

[cyan tide]

I think Taniks just had a brainfart, void piercing should be after arc rapid fire

[devout void]

cant wait to T67 efrideet with all my savings omg, 1 shot sniper in pvp

[indigo solar]

Yes

Forgor Jaren existed

Void -> Solar -> Arc

[vast arch]

But the content was based around them so why wouldn't they progress the cycle?

[indigo solar]

Spread -> Impact -> Rapid -> Piercing

[weak ginkgo]

Efredeet is already precision! They can't just change her whole thing. Solar is gonna be next and she gonna be rapid/piercing

[indigo solar]

They ran side by side with the cycle characters in China, we got them by themselves so China gets synced with us since they launched after

Now we're lined up so we go back to cycle

[indigo solar]

Next is arc

Not solar

[weak ginkgo]

So they gonna change Efrideet to solar?

[indigo solar]

No???

She's arc

And she's next

[tight talon]

someone saw Efrideet has Solar Knives

[indigo solar]

She's a bladedancer, that's arc knives

[tight talon]

Indeed

So she's Arc Rapidfire then

Hopefully she can use Riskrunner better than Ning

[weak ginkgo]

She might be better then Ning and Hel combined lol

She's gonna be rapid and piercing. Arby is gonna go hard on her

[indigo solar]

Probably AR or pulse, not smg

[tight talon]

Would be funny if she's SMG/Shotgun

[indigo solar]

Sniper

If she has a piercing power it's going to be sniper

[tight talon]

We had our Pulse contender in Estela right?

[weak ginkgo]

Nah Jaren is still out there

[indigo solar]

Would be dope if we got Efrideet's Spear from the Iron Games

[cyan tide]

Doesn't mean anything, Jaren and Gwynn both use shotgun

[indigo solar]

Also we don't have a 5* ar user

[tight talon]

Eh is fine tbh. Heavy doesn't have anything decent eitherways

Wait lemme see if I predicted it before

[weak ginkgo]

Ar is what they gonna go on her. 100%

Not sure how she's gonna compete with Ning. But hope the DPS is gonna make up for it

[indigo solar]

She's 100% gonna be an Offense char

Our first offense piercing power char

[weak ginkgo]

No doubts lol but is hard to beat Ning on rapid

[tight talon]

It's been weeks, I don't even know which Rapid Fire heavies exists aside from effing Autocrossbow

Machinegun

[indigo solar]

That's it

[elder wing]

So we better pull for ikora lmao. Cuz if any rapid comes around will be left in dust cuz of this guy

[indigo solar]

People also thought Ikora would be useless since Maru exists

Fact that yall can't even comprehend a better char than Ning is crazy

Ikora's going standard anyways