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somber tusk
rotund raptor
somber tusk
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Yayyy we made it through the roster :D

bitter estuary
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why do ppl avoid bridge crossing with a 10 foot pole

finite gazelle
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It's less bad on other encounters cause you can just have like 2 or 3 people do all the mechanics

solar viper
bitter estuary
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ok finally found a match

rotund raptor
hidden carbon
bitter estuary
mossy holly
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What should I do with my 300 silver?

dusty spire
bitter estuary
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or spending events if you've purchased all of the bundles

cobalt beacon
bitter estuary
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balls

stark forge
red geyser
mossy holly
fading prism
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Hey everyone, is there an updated guide for all the secrete triumphs somewhere? The ones online / reddit are old and dated

oblique helm
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Its kinda about luck, I just got a bouncer with 5Ɨ multiplier

grizzled reef
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I dont know if I’ll get back into Rising

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One day I will

hasty grail
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Hmmm

jagged osprey
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Working on getting the seasonal title. Anyone got an easy shadowshaper deck to run

violet sonnet
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just run your default preffered deck at like a ungodly time to face bots

naive ingot
jagged osprey
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I never played shadowshaper. Guess I’ll look up a short guide

quaint orbit
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It might be a good idea to lvl your duelist lvl so you can get more cards. Just do your daily battles against the highest lvl NPC you can

dusty spire
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Kabr 1.0 is fun……

bitter estuary
haughty swallow
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if I apply a decal on the base outfit, let's say ikora, does it also apply if I change to a different outfit? I'm guessing no.

haughty swallow
dusty spire
limber pine
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Guardian Drip is real

opaque granite
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Is there a channel for pack recruitment?

bitter estuary
lofty tiger
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Does anyone have a map of where the blooming collectibles for the lanternlit event are? cant really find any

stark forge
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clearly 4* kabr got better shield and flashbang than kabr 5* little squirt

bitter estuary
stark forge
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top 7 or 8 now cant remember

bitter estuary
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wait lemme check ingame i dont remember yours

stark forge
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need more cores for jotunn

bitter estuary
haughty swallow
# limber pine Why not lol

to each their own. it's just a funny thought if you think about someone trying to get enough flawless decals from each season and putting them on every outfit.

dusty spire
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The heir apparent is a serious rapid

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Wouldn’t mind Saladin being FR / HMG

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I don’t play much but I got a whole bunch of fallen cards is it worth it?

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Just to have a playable deck tbf

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Just want to be best the cpu over time to collect the free cards

stark forge
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yes

bitter estuary
oblique helm
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Hello chat

stark forge
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welp thank god its not seasonal core

dusty spire
oblique helm
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Anhilation or fraternity guys?

stark forge
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frat for explosion and total lockdown anni for anything else

oblique helm
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Yeah im not spinning again for ikora, ill keep anhilation

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I mean the difference shouldn't be that bIG

stark forge
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as long as there is dmg roll on the mods u can run whatever

pulsar coral
limber pine
twilit thistle
bitter estuary
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wait this roll kinda rocks

bold thunder
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mid 50s get ridiculously hard 😭

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new pb by 1 though :D

rotund flame
rotund flame
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That probably explains why i have people constantly asking people to join the matchmaking in chat lol

bitter estuary
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i genuinely wanna die inside so bad trying to get the mod roll i want

neat valley
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it’s not that big of a difference if everything else is correct

bitter estuary
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dawg it took me 10 rolls to get an anni perk for my rl

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it really doesn't matter but it does infuriate me a lot

twilit thistle
bitter estuary
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netease moment

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just dismantled a couple of mods

pulsar coral
bitter estuary
twilit thistle
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I had a mod with perfect perks drop from the public event on my alt. It’s not that rough. (It’s worse)

unborn turtle
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Have they confirmed mythic Xuan Wei yet?

dusty spire
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Hopefully xuan day

unborn turtle
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Very good

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I look forward to repeating this exchange everyday, for the next 32 days

dusty spire
unborn turtle
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Tbh, skipping is the right call.

bold thunder
# twilit thistle

Don't worry it's estimated 2 minutes, you'll get in any second now

twilit thistle
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With my alt, my combined proficiency is 45k

turbid field
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I want to play more again but I dont know what the motivation is besides playing the same content on new characters lol

signal spade
exotic apex
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Hi

dusty spire
dusty spire
signal spade
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that and the ketch are a strong enough combo to win prob all the npc duels

dusty spire
signal spade
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this is my vanok but the tan/rossi can be literally anything i was just goin for ai cheese, can prob just make them jaren/umeko or xuanwei/wolf or something if your options are limited

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but turn 5 ketch + tan + rossi is pretty funny and annoying even for real players

dusty spire
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And Kabr 1.0 has an amazing 70 sec super ?

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Yeah definitely putting life into him through this cycle

sharp talon
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Nerf finnala

granite tundra
mossy holly
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Calamity Ops is dead 😭

stark forge
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its not dead everyone runs out of attempts

bold thunder
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If you don't have t4 gungnir though, you can still make it to 40 with that build minus gungnir

bold thunder
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If you struggle with it I'm happy to talk through the build

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It takes a bit of practice though, especially once you get to the point where you need to confine the orange/yellow bars to stall them

granite tundra
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where do you place the Gungnir's up front?

lean burrow
bold thunder
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That's the latest iteration of the build I've been using for wave 60 attempts

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Actually no, the right side gungnir and the ride cluster anesthesia are swapped mb

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Red = Anesthesia
Purple = Stone Hoof
Green = Gungnir
Yellow = Understatement
Blue = Acute Field

twilit thistle
# limber pine Aye that's smart af ty 😊

Did u see how many? If you do it a ton, its essentially endless bright dust to a certain point. The ammount you get back is like roughtly 70%-90% of the original bright dust. Eventually you run out, but it takes a while. Not helpful for bright engrams, but helpful for the other ones.

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Emphasis on roughly

indigo solar
twilit thistle
limber pine
twilit thistle
glacial elk
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Wait, you can dismantle them and get back the bright dust?!?!?

limber pine
limber pine
twilit thistle
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Only do it for these, again. This is not worth it for the others, you get alot if you buy a ton of these at once. NOT FOR SEASON OF PROVIDENCE ENGRAMS

limber pine
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I did engrams at first once I got all the truth skins I swapped to the sticker packs to farm glows

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Can't u dismantle weapon shaders for bright dust as well or am I thinking about something else?

glacial elk
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So if I polish a decal to exotic, and then dismantle it, I get the bright dust back?

bold thunder
thorny frost
glacial elk
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Roger that! Thanks

thorny frost
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O and I would not suggest going to exotic, they take bright pigment which you don’t get back

light matrix
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GZcpiE9V

twilit thistle
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This is turning out to be quite the challenge. I could only get 9 hoofs up by 14. On 15 I only had enough for another half a max hoof. It’s also not efficient enough for the bosses. 🫠

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Weird visual glitch, all I did was open one chest

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@indigo solar I think my games bugged, bc there’s no way a single chest just did that ||unless the algo I told u about is real||

bold thunder
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Wait did you get t4 hoof??

twilit thistle
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Yea lol randomly.

bold thunder
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Nice!

opaque granite
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Are those wolf pack missions the only point of guilds here?

stark forge
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the point is accessing practice range

sharp talon
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black market tokens, pack shop, practice range

hidden carbon
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I have literally not had any hoofs drop from the chests since the mode first came out. Still stuck at 2* hoof when almost everything else is 4* now

finite gazelle
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I haven't played a ton of bulwark but I literally have every single tower except for hoof nown

bold thunder
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At least it's not anesthesia

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Hoof is a lot easier to replace

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Still rough though how long it's taking some people to get

cyan tide
twilit thistle
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The easiest way to farm bulwark is to place a single hoof, and go afk. You will always get a single chest

rotund flame
versed scroll
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Drill or Truth for Ikora-H?

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I'm still really torn.

bitter estuary
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i've seen people do wonders with drill+four horned in expanse though

versed scroll
rotund flame
versed scroll
bitter estuary
versed scroll
twilit thistle
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Just place ane everywhere

rotund flame
stiff breach
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would it be better to use my energy to perfect ikora's relics or get the drill to max

supple nymph
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What are the best in slot ikora artifacts?

stiff breach
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undaunting blazar, siphoning blazar, rampaging pact, bellicose blazar/undaunted spiral

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both her abiliities count as a summon so thats why rampaging pact

south cargo
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just got a good inverted fury and why is the game coded this way, was using calming token this whole time on umeko and then see the damage difference with inverted

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2000 less power than my other build and doing more damage

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in expanse 30-40

calm vortex
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I dont know what the power to damage scaling actually is but depending on your power with both builds you probably wont see any change cause 30~40 power caps you below content power iirc

south cargo
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regardless shocking a mod that says 30% more damage is better than a 46% precision one of izi

cobalt beacon
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Syd lied in his video

stiff breach
cobalt beacon
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Claychump

stiff breach
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gotcha

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your right i just tested on practice range

twilit thistle
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Ya I thought it was likely that Likely was correct

stiff breach
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hope they bring out a road map soon

twilit thistle
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Not looking very likely

stiff breach
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gunna miss crota when season 4 comes out in a month lol

cobalt beacon
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Fug crota

uneven zinc
stiff breach
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i need to get my friend to get online so i can 2 man death singers lol

tight talon
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probably going to be first battlepass that i wont complete

cobalt beacon
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In 2 weeks

tight talon
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I really don't vibe with Ikora nor Truth

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I'd rather wait 6 weeks and get an original character from the lore

cobalt beacon
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5star xuan wei next

tight talon
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Than the same no effort designs

candid phoenix
tight talon
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I just don't like how she's so plot relevant and her relevance is just off screen

twilit thistle
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i mean hairkora kinda goes hard tho i liked that one.

tight talon
candid phoenix
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True she has crazy lore but it’s hidden in her diary entries

twilit thistle
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This could be due to the bias due to how OP hairkora is in shifting gates.

sinful totem
tight talon
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I prefer to watch character build up on my characters to enjoy them.

Like Gwwynie, Estela, HH and even Maru.

twilit thistle
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its likely that hairkora exceeds elsewhere, perhaps the expanse? Likely would know.

tight talon
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Jaren was not that great storywise

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Kabr/Hairkora didn't get one

tight talon
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Esp due to triumphs, totally burned out

twilit thistle
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Dont make me get on emea.

tight talon
sinful totem
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What

tight talon
sinful totem
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Nah you can’t even compare, where is attal super viable in like what you’re saying

tight talon
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The point i am making is, i vibe with characters if they have good stories foremost, kits and weapons later

twilit thistle
tight talon
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Hairkora just seems like she got off screen relevance for off screen purposes and hence she glowed up

twilit thistle
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Note this is without @cobalt beacon's explination on how hairkora is likely goated currently.

tight talon
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Even Kabr The Resolute had better glowup than this Cry

cobalt beacon
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Indiankora is trash

twilit thistle
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šŸ’€

tight talon
bitter estuary
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why

bitter estuary
tight talon
cobalt beacon
tight talon
bitter estuary
tight talon
cobalt beacon
tight talon
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The darkest genshin has ever done is like, middle eastern at best

cobalt beacon
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Made in china legit

tight talon
bitter estuary
twilit thistle
bitter estuary
tight talon
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šŸ’€

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If creams worked, everyone and their sisters would look like Dracula

tight talon
twilit thistle
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😭

bitter estuary
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everyone looked like this

twilit thistle
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Is that ning?

lone lion
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Game is so dry😭

vocal mango
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erm now what

tight talon
twilit thistle
tight talon
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the what now

twilit thistle
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I still have u open on a chrome tab.

twilit thistle
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r u in game

tight talon
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yeah?

wise siren
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Hope everyone is having an amazing weekens

twilit thistle
tight talon
twilit thistle
delicate mango
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I got a question for yall

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What's your guys favorite music

twilit thistle
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As somoene with multiple personalities i am unable to answer, because my favorites are so diverse they break youtube's algorithm.

visual rain
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grunge, indie, nu metal, jrock, hip hop probably top 5 in no particular order

supple nymph
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What mythic rocket to use on ikora? Four horned or bellowing?

tight talon
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With Vorpal and Clusters

supple nymph
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But none of the exotic mods have perk bonuses?

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Like there’s no perk bonus for vorpal or clusters

oak kettle
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And clusters count as extra hits for her perk buildup

tight talon
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And transfer if those slots get mods

oak kettle
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Yeah not having an activation just means that you don’t get a tiny bit of extra power, you still get most of the mod

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That rocket is absolutely ridiculous for the t6 exploit that will inevitably get patched but is also just pretty good anyway

stiff remnant
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Hola

bitter estuary
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four horned better but im just using bellowing bc im scared it'd be patched

vestal cedar
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Hi if anyone could explain me tmrw how does the currency and stuff works Cuz i started the game 2 days ago (i did played similar games) but Yh to many items i keep getting without knowing what to do w it

dusty spire
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Well the road map don’t have ā€œnew characterā€ for season 4 so now I’m
Thinking reruns lol

oblique helm
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I think i now understand why the pinnacle energy system suck

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Basic rewards are just so ah

bitter estuary
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true

dusty spire
# oblique helm I think i now understand why the pinnacle energy system suck

Anything progressive over time sucks if you really enjoy it, however it’s our current service model and as you progress and maximise attendance you’ll start gaining items an abundance in some areas.

As for basic rewards meh it’s like a cut off to say your done, we do need grind-able events if we are cut off from micro progression.

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I can only think of having operation cordon with real rewards in the difficult area that is actually incentivising to progress and invest in a heroes power to acquire rewards at the harder levels

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Also the modifiers should come as a card system that requires you to buy them ourselves and attach to the character we want to use.

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So you need to run the cordon dungeons to get coins then to buy modifier cards

Support def offensive
And for a list of different styles

vestal cedar
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Ah and where the heck can i change the language of my game

bitter estuary
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progression after endgame is like increadibly slow, which i do get it because it's a gacha game but at times it feels VERY tedious

vestal cedar
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Even tho i do speak English pretty well i dont understand anything when its come to stats

twilit wyvern
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Hi Everyone. Greetings from South Africa. šŸ‡æšŸ‡¦
I am struggling with season Bloom. I am unable to talk or trade with Ayuela in Jiangshi Metro. She has a locked icon abover her head. What am I missing? Acclaim lvl 19

bitter estuary
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like oh my god why do you need like 60 mobius clusters to max out one mythic weapon

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when the basic reward drop rate is 7.14% for one exotic mod

oblique helm
bitter estuary
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they need to fix the reward system, but firstly

C O N T E N T like it feels like s3 as a whole is a whole season long dead patch

lapis swallow
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We still have a month of driest of content until March 26

heady obsidian
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jaren ward gotta have one of the WORST character quests in video game history 😭 šŸ™

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that ending was actually worse than GoT

bitter estuary
heady obsidian
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not even a cliffhanger they just resolve it off screen in 5 seconds with 0 explanation 😭

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it's like if star wars return of the jedi kept the entire throne room section off screen and Luke just came back and said "I did it" and the movie ended right after

dusty spire
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This is a rerun welcome on board period

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Here some new things and new light will be able to pull in the gap between themselves and the day 1s

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Whilst day ones get the opportunity to bump up current collection.

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ā€œMajor system changesā€ is a big one

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Could be a critical change

rotund raptor
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That would be dope . If it hapoens gonna get stela and gwyn first and maybe up my jaren

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But until then its gonna be boring waiting monday to reset the activities lol and endless chaos grind

dusty spire
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A rerun relevant to the cycle so it would be around est and gwyn but I don’t think it will go into HH jaren

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HH Maru jaren imo would be a later rerun event

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Unless they re run a matching element with a new limited banner

rotund raptor
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Yh it makes sense that way

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And its better that way

dusty spire
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Definitely can see a est gwyn banner, not like they didn’t double them before

rotund raptor
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Cuz if they put too many old banners at same time gonna be hard to invest in them lol

dusty spire
rotund raptor
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True

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Yh if it would be 1 new banner + 1 old one its managable

elder wing
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So are we getting the new season on March 26 lol?

dusty spire
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Into April -> money time

empty kettle
red geyser
dusty spire
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Gonna feel like a long march lol

gusty bridge
oblique helm
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What's a good thing to buy to speed up progression?

oak temple
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How can I show helmet during the result screen/in the hub?

open mason
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is mythic ikora in term of dps almost like helhest? is T6 worth?

rotund raptor
mossy holly
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I've never seen anyone use Tan-2 on Terminus with Borealis

golden spade
summer ledge
# mossy holly I've never seen anyone use Tan-2 on Terminus with Borealis

I like Borealis on Tan since it gives him easy full shield coverage and still has the highest ammo reserve for snipers, to my knowledge. The damage buff and practically infinite magazine are nice if you match shields, and unless the Izanagi buff was significant, Borealis can still do competitive damage in environments where they do the fair play nonsense and disable mods and bands 2 and 3. It's just a good workhorse, low effort weapon if you want to just point and click.

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Now that Arbalest exists people are back to the "Helhest or trash" mindset, unfortunately, but it gives you some versatility for a good, easy to play character in the permanent pool. Tan is not hard to use since his mastery just needs weapon hits and is infinite as long as you have targets to headshot, and his kit is easy to understand compared to all the mechanics and conditions that go into certain other characters.

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Both are also free to an extent, versus both Arbalest and Helhest requiring significant paid commitment without the Arbalest battle pass.

ocean coral
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Nice meeting everyone here

dusty spire
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Need to balance the game direction asap or otherwise keep piling what ever the current math problem is lol

empty kettle
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They should make a 5* disguised as a 4*

dusty spire
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Something feels off

oblique helm
dusty spire
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Even the perm banners was inline with the 4* but you could feel the edge they provided

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Then limited created this wider gap

oblique helm
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I got 2 exotics from strike in a row

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Something feels off

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I just cant prove it

dusty spire
scenic wigeon
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Loolie what i got last night :3 my 1st photon from a loot drop

tight talon
dusty spire
stark forge
wispy wave
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Anyone want to help with crota? Ive been off for a while and cant get passed the beginning. NA server

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Nuzzyfipples in game

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Ty

bitter estuary
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balls

hi guys

mossy holly
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Why not they add BP weapons to the exotic engrams or the loot pool

mossy holly
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ofc..

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Limited polls

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Sadly you missed those opportunities..

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Maybe they'll do reruns in the future

rotund raptor
thorny frost
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With how easy it is to farm shards I don’t think it will ever happen at least for anything craftable. Be interesting if it was put in for raids tho but not as the focus exotic, so the odds were low enough to still encourage battle pass but give alternatives to get it.

cyan tide
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I wonder what they're going to do for reruns, I think it's very likely that they'll make a new bp weapon and maybe that's when they add the old one to the general drop pool

dusty spire
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Sounds like a expansion to the current location we are, in Red Sea and with that area comes new strike and blitz

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Guess more c op stages are welcomed

thorny frost
# dusty spire No mention of new character/s here

That is probably due to spacing, the likely hood of no new unit/no new exotic (specially with new raids) and no new battle pass is slim to none. How they formatted that page probably only allowed so much space

dusty spire
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Can’t see a rerun Bp

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Just a Bp shop discount

thorny frost
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If you look at the time line they have all the seasons start at the same height so the last ā€œnewā€ items probably feel behind the other image and it wasn’t proof read, or they skipped putting it in as it wasn’t the main focus of the update.

dusty spire
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New character and BP is a big deal but I can see why they could leave it out

thorny frost
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It is expected tho

dusty spire
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Well left a
Cliff hanger

oblique helm
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Guys anyway to get more catalyst parts? The 30 you get weekly from legendary campaign is not enough

dusty spire
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Reruns or new banner lol

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Hate cliff hangers

oblique helm
cyan tide
timid coral
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@craggy finch me and a couple friends disbanded our pack and joined yours..do you care if we 3 man the strongholds

dusty spire
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This is proof why the new light experience might be about catching them up

thorny frost
oblique helm
dusty spire
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they are behind by a few months cycle to sort of be diverse enough to join in later content perhaps

indigo solar
# oblique helm Yea

Yeah just have some patience, you get them way faster than you get the other catalyst materials

dusty spire
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I’ve seen a lot of new players lately

thorny frost
# oblique helm Yea

You can get some by just doing legendary with pinnacle, also when you unlock challenge mode you can get another 15 a week from the common chest time reward for each stage

oblique helm
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Damn so 2 more weeks till I get the catalyst

thorny frost
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You will find yourself over flowing with them in no time. I have 900 with nothing to spend them on.

oblique helm
cyan tide
oblique helm
thorny frost
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The 2 game modes in the end you will spend pinnacle on is Chaos and Legendary campaign as those are the only major limiting factors in the game.

cyan tide
thorny frost
oblique helm
thorny frost
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Mythic perameters will be easy to get later. You can also ā€œeasilyā€ farm them in the tower defense mode.

oblique helm
oblique helm
oblique helm
cyan tide
thorny frost
thorny frost
oblique helm
oblique helm
thorny frost
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Most people will recommend buying the photons (black hole looking item) from the black market as the ratio you get from legendary campaign have those in a deficit.

oblique helm
signal spade
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eggs are prob the best thing to spend on just depends what you need and for what

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theyve been pretty generous with photons recently, not so much eggs ever

thorny frost
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The battle pass eggs are the secondary item that is probably bought from the shop. I do a mix of both personally. I save up 110k tokens and buy the 2 cheap eggs and three of the black holes to get the ā€œpurchase 5 items in a weekā€ track to get some black market tokens back. But this is only doable once you buy the shop out of boats for pulls.

signal spade
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yea bp weapons are all gated behind the eggs and you get a fair chunk of black market tokens each week

dusty spire
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Keep working on your pool for the next raid

oblique helm
oblique helm
thorny frost
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The 7 requires me to buy the bottles which I don’t really need to buy for my current ratios.

dusty spire
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Can we get a legendary calamity ops that gives BM coins šŸŖ™ instead of lumi lol

Restricted to 4* since they done want us using them

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They are sold as part of the limited banners but then you can’t use them for anything.

Balance it out or give us a game mode that squares them off.

Gosh I feel like a broken record lol

oblique helm
thorny frost
oblique helm
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Ill start doing that instead of mindlessly saving my black coins for nothing

signal spade
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google a youtube video for blooming chest guide

oblique helm
signal spade
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think its like 40k free ones rn but event ends in a week or two

thorny frost
oblique helm
signal spade
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exotics def worth you cant trade pinnacle for bp tokens

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just get as many as you can every week the cores drop like candy eventually

dusty spire
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Hard to believe hikora won’t get anymore love during the next 34 days

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Freemiums incoming

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Solar Lgl?

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Or RL?

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Gotta keep attendance flowing

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March pvp event that’s it?

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Hardly a banner feed lol

thorny frost
# signal spade exotics def worth you cant trade pinnacle for bp tokens

Early on I could see it being worth it not to sell those as he is still working on raising power level. Getting to the point to clear expanse at least to 30 if not farther is pretty big. Also getting far enough in calamity ops (maybe Expert 1?). But yea as of now I sell exotic cores as it is easier.

signal spade
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its only 2 right thats like one blooming cache with bad rng

dusty spire
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For chaos art farming is it better to open chests with the heroes your farming for?

finite gazelle
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Holy Moly

finite gazelle
dusty spire
hollow salmon
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My tinfoil future character theory is we will get Pahanin. Kabr mentioned them in some idle dialogue and they like puns and cephalopods there could be potential there 🤣

finite gazelle
twilit thistle
opaque granite
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Looking for Social Guild

neat valley
opaque granite
worn trellis
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anyone know how to get unstuck from combat?

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i can't interact with anything. i think i caused it from teleporting to a new area after getting those fire crackers sstuck on me

elder wing
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This 30 days gon be long…

cold robin
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How are you doing today

thorny frost
thorny frost
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Logging out I mean closing the game not the log out button. If you actually log out make sure to have your account bound.

thorny frost
worn trellis
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i had some fallen kill me as well. nothing

half sky
worn trellis
half sky
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Try going in a missions

twilit thistle
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Close the game and come back in 10 mins.

worn trellis
indigo solar
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@worn trellis you need to afk for a while, long enough for it to kick you

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It thinks you're stuck in an activity

twilit thistle
#

hey taniks. long time no c

worn trellis
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had me worried there for a bit

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thanks everyone for the suggestion

twilit thistle
#

Regardless of what you are doing, logging out for 5-10 mins will reset everything.

worn trellis
#

good to know

elder wing
#

Dmn just remembered the first month of this game… nostalgia

opaque granite
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Don't mind me badgering wrong channel

sour sphinx
#

why is the blooming public event music better than the entire bulwark event? imo

dusty spire
#

How is the furies?

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Thinking of upgrading for Kabr 1.0

dusty spire
#

Just hope these filler perm banner events finish now lol

sour sphinx
#

Why couldnt they make our characters crouch again?

limber pine
bitter estuary
white fossil
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got bored and maxxed my gallows so now i have 2x 75.4k weapon setups šŸ™

keen cave
stark forge
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there is iron bar tho

delicate mango
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Witch rarely gets play

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I do hope they update the pvp

white fossil
naive ingot
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Why queue when players ain't gonna ready up fml

elder wing
#

Did anyone fully upgraded the truth yet?

haughty swallow
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I'm waiting for reset to get the last 10 levels to fully upgrade

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sucks you're capped on battle pass xp

twilit thistle
#

šŸ‘€ I think I might have enough sg credits for the rest of the season

weak ginkgo
haughty swallow
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saving those for draws. still a month left to go

viscid night
#

Alguien habla espaƱol?

limber pine
twilit thistle
slow ridge
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I wan gwenn and Estella

bold fog
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How is it that people fast recharge their abilities
(Besides wolf)

dusty spire
#

I don’t understand why they have no real rank system in SG

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When you have a T6 character incentive to use them

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Are tiers open in SG?

twilit thistle
#

T6 applies in sg. It’s how I competed on Umeko, gaze was cracked in s2

dusty spire
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Don’t get why we don’t have more around the game mode then

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When it holds a usage for part of max character scaling

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Just let mobile and pc players in the same pool

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Such a lack of players for such a good game mode

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Would have been nice to see it evolve into its competitive level play

twilit thistle
#

It’s not competitive enough anymore, I prefer to play bots actually now. It’s been so long everyone is bad at it nowadays. I hate playing on mobile tho, I liked to play Umeko on pc.

twilit thistle
# slow ridge I wan gwenn and Estella

I wish they would add Gwynn, Estella, and Helhest to the permanent banner. The mythic choice is too brutal. Make them both choices. A choice in 60, and in 180. Add a new category, let’s call it ā€œlimitedā€. The pity for this is 180, and probability would also reflect this (3x rarer). Boom. Problem solved.

oak kettle
twilit thistle
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Idea is that you still get the normal ones every 60, and if you keep going you get the others in 180. Generating 3x as much income for the game

floral abyss
oak kettle
#

today i learned mid run that deathsinger challenge triumph can be 4 man 1 phased cus the wizard guarding the chalice is also a shield singer

twilit thistle
# oak kettle gwynn and estella yes, helhest no

I’d be okay with having op helhests running around as long as it keeps the game alive. If it passed a certain concurrent player threshold, I would want helhest balanced to be less op tho

oak kettle
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that's fair but i think Ikora 2 very much fulfils the OP Free character slot

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on that note maru perma cus Ikora 2 exists

bold fog
#

Speaking of ikora
What is the best rocket

cobalt beacon
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@indigo solar does the ikora artifact work without reloading the 4th slot

oak kettle
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the one from tower defence is the best mythic one for raw damage on its own afaik and truth is generally a good option if you dont mind battle pass investment

bold fog
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Is the arc one that fallen spiky looking one

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Also ty

oak kettle
bold fog
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OK got it

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Do y'all ability spam for reload?
And how do ppl recharge abilities so fast

opal shuttle
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Hear me out, a way to reboot SG and it’s a guaranteed! Put clusters in there with a 5% drop chance 7-8% with a win with pinnacle use, a way to get PvP and clusters

indigo solar
# bold fog How is it that people fast recharge their abilities (Besides wolf)

Only these characters can speed up ability charge:
Finnala gets slam energy back for killing enemies with slam
Gwynn gets swing energy back by collecting void spirits
Helhest gets enough energy for one drone if she gets >50m away from her drone, which also deletes the existing drone
Ikora 4* gets ability energy back by getting kills after using an ability
Ikora 5* gets 5 stacks of ability, shared between both abilities, when her bar fills. When she exits her enhanced state, she also gets two stacks of dash and a laser
Jolder gets ability energy back by using her slam when she has rage
Kabr 5* gets barrier energy when he blinds targets, and gets beam energy too if he has his talent
Ning Fei gets another dodge if he kills an enemy with slam
Umeko can get another shuriken by filling her bar from shooting enemies
Wolf gets their dash back if they kill an enemy with it, and get both abilities when their bar fills

twilit thistle
cobalt beacon
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Alright thanks

indigo solar
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At least, if you use it when you already have overflow

cobalt beacon
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Hmm

indigo solar
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Haven't tested using it with power weapon w/ no ammo

cobalt beacon
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Oh

oak kettle
#

also crota bridge time trial was a lot easier than i thought it would be when i got a team, we first tried it 4 man with some suboptimal sword and chalice grabs

indigo solar
cobalt beacon
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Bet

indigo solar
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So it is just using an ability that can reload

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Whether or not it actually reloads

cobalt beacon
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Interesting thanks

oak kettle
#

i mean you are still reloading. You're just emptying your full mag to put a new full mag in

sharp talon
#

does that artifact work with jaren?

indigo solar
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Empty power weapon with no more ammo

cobalt beacon
indigo solar
cobalt beacon
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Not gonna swap too it tho my valiant already maxed

oak kettle
indigo solar
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I don't like testing Jaren tho

oak kettle
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it's still a reload, it just doesn't do anything

indigo solar
#

Jaren dodge and Helhest drone are annoying to test for

sharp talon
#

how come?

indigo solar
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They both trigger all sorts of effects that are hard to keep track of

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And Helhest's drones don't provide a consistent buff

twilit thistle
#

||umekos healing||

indigo solar
#

Besides the SFA giving increased strength when summoned, they fluctuate between like 9.5-11% depending on when the buff applies

sand atlas
#

In Iron Bar I keep running into max level 80 ikora and Jaren with only mythic and exotic weapons. I know there’s the ā€œfair playā€ thing but I don’t think it helps when I’m getting one or two tapped and I can’t do the same

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How do I prevent this

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Do I also need mythic/exotic weapons

twilit thistle
calm vortex
#

Yeah from all testing ive done on Jaren with Undaunted Spiral it appears to work both in Firing Range and actual missions, pretty much everything was within expected results

indigo solar
# sand atlas Do I also need mythic/exotic weapons

To one tap with Jaren, you need an aggressive frame shotgun (Niaatiks or Swordbreaker) and stacks of Welling Light from filling his bar. New Ikora doesn't have a true one tap, but she can dodge, shoot, shoot which kills very quickly

sand atlas
indigo solar
sand atlas
twilit thistle
sand atlas
indigo solar
sand atlas
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It just doesn’t seem feasible when everyone’s a bullet sponge

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I know I’m using the abilities wrong

indigo solar
sand atlas
#

But the cooldowns are also really long

indigo solar
#

Attal can two tap with her hand cannons if you can land headshots

sand atlas
#

And I don’t have the mythic ikora or jaren

indigo solar
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Yeah use Attal. When your bar fills up for the first time, shoot one round and reload. After that, every time you reload, swap to heavy then back

sand atlas
#

I see

indigo solar
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This lets you always have stacks of mini missile

sand atlas
#

But sometimes I just turn a corner and die

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Or I’m chasing someone who’s running away

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Then I get 2 tapped by a teammate in close range

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I don’t really understand the general strategy

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If everyone were a bullet sponge or if everyone died in 2 hits I could manage

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But it doesn’t seem to work that way

sand atlas
twilit thistle
indigo solar
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Balanced matchmaking

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I'll lyk how badly we get stomped

frigid sorrel
#

šŸ™

indigo solar
#

Only one to go positive T-T

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Also new ikora is so annoying

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Other confine chars have their effects nerfed

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You can't move vs her

sand atlas
thorny frost
#

I have been wanting to test new Ikora in Iron bar but I suck with touch controls compared to controller and I misplaced it >.>.

indigo solar
hushed crown
viscid night
hushed crown
#

Por el momento solo ingles

viscid night
#

Mal ahĆ­, querĆ­a buscar gente para pasar una actividad del juego, pero gente que sepa la gente radom no saben lo que hacen šŸ¤¦šŸ¾ā€ā™‚ļø

opaque cedar
viscid night
opaque cedar
#

Yo me quede con las singularidades pero si o si las tengo que hacer solo, no tengo los personajes recomendados dead

viscid night
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El fin de crota es la que me refiero,

opaque cedar
#

Aaahhh si

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Hablan de eso todo el tiempo en los canales de mƔs abajo

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No lleguƩ, por ende no sabrƭa decirte.

viscid night
opaque cedar
#

Se

viscid night
opaque cedar
#

Ya te digo

viscid night
# opaque cedar Se

Si no estƔs cheto es medio complicado, pero con tiempo llegas al 10 ya yo estoy ahi

opaque cedar
#

Claro yo estoy en 6, pero todas las hice a la primera con el personaje que me recomiendan, en este caso no lo tengo, entonces me frenƩ, mƔs que nada para hacerlo bien y no tener que repetirlo

viscid night
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Yo todas las pase con folde

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Ami no se me complicó en verdad, ademÔs que al personaje le puse cariño

opaque cedar
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Gwynn y Jolder son los principales, despuƩs todos me salen en rojo y eso que estan asi con 29k

opaque cedar
rotund flame
thorny frost
viscid night
viscid night
sand atlas
#

šŸ˜”

limber pine
stoic trout
#

yfgCoZuy

twilit thistle
#

Netease kinda sucks at balancing PvP tbh. Ex: hairkora in sg.

sand atlas
#

I know I have a skill issue but I won’t stand a chance regardless until I get those things

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šŸ˜”

twilit thistle
#

Or do what Taniks-san, the GachaGirlā¬›šŸŸ„[IN] said

sand atlas
sand atlas
#

i know i could be better, but theres also a lot of things about ironbar that arent explained

twilit thistle
#

What gun

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Did u run del lassi

sand atlas
# twilit thistle What gun

could you please help?

  1. how do i get more heavy ammo

  2. what do umeko's abilities even do (i still dont get it)

  3. what are general strategies to be good in ironbar

sand atlas
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im a new player

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i guess i have a skill issue and also im frustrated that iron bar has no matchmaking

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but still ive never struggled this much in any other shooter cuz i at least knew what i was doing and the stats were even (and there was matchmaking so i could learn gradually)

twilit thistle
sand atlas
twilit thistle
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You need to turn aim assist all the way up. Use auto fire

sand atlas
#

i cant just stay and do nothing or stay with my team either cuz my team is always refusing to go for objective

twilit thistle
#

Taniks-san, the GachaGirlā¬›šŸŸ„[IN] what are ur recommended settings šŸ’™

agile spindle
#

Use the new ikora if you are a new player

sand atlas
twilit thistle
#

Taniks-bomba incoming.

agile spindle
sand atlas
#

almost there 10 more spins

indigo solar
# sand atlas could you please help? 1) how do i get more heavy ammo 2) what do umeko's abil...

You only get heavy ammo when you respawn or if you claim the heavy ammo deposit that spawns every 2 minutes, but it's not really worth it to go for it

One of Umeko's abilities is a dodge, you go invisible if you don't fire and it also has minor healing. The other ability is only really useful for marking enemies that may go invisible, bc it lets you track them anyways

Capture territory. Nobody does this, it's one of the most important things for deciding fights though. You want to be holding B and either A or C on Meltdown (the indoor map) and any two on Vostok (the mountain map). Also stay back with Umeko, she out-ranges a lot of the roster

indigo solar
#

But yeah I'd say probably have it on at least medium

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And spend some time refining your sensitivity so a swipe goes exactly where you want

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Turn acceleration off

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Max frame rate

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You can have auto fire on if you want for your primary, but leave it off for snipers

indigo solar
#

Also for weapons, do you have any exotic scout rifles?

twilit thistle
sand atlas
#

i just started 😭

indigo solar
#

It'll let you one tap to the head

twilit thistle
#

good thing about tht scheme is that i think its new player friendly too (why i recommended). A new player is going to be like me after a while of not playing. Just run the primary

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Auto fire finishes off so many

indigo solar
#

Tbh Umeko isn't as great with only purple scouts, I'd say use a Fall from Grace with Deadly Warrant and Flash Mob

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But until you get exotic scouts I think you're better off with Attal

sand atlas
twilit thistle
#

yea needs to go and grind those mats. I think del lassi is fastest to get godrolled, i did it very fast.

indigo solar
sand atlas
#

that can change the element

indigo solar
indigo solar
sand atlas
sand atlas
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its ok ill just go for mythic ikora

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probably not good enough to use umeko

twilit thistle
#

u can get umeko copies from there.

sand atlas
#

i dont have much map knowledge

indigo solar
twilit thistle
#

yea but it can help level up to get more mats.

sand atlas
indigo solar
#

True

sand atlas
#

but it seems i cant for ironbar

indigo solar
#

Tbh @sand atlas just take the loss this week, next weekend you'll have plenty of mythic weapons

sand atlas
#

ok so just to clarify, you guys recommend 1) aim assist 2) autofire on primaries 3) keep distance as umeko 4) get mythic/exotic on heavy weapons

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right?

sand atlas
#

i dont even know where to find them

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😭

twilit thistle
indigo solar
sand atlas
twilit thistle
#

Morgrans is like 100 mythic weapon parameters right?

sand atlas
#

once im ready, ill try iron bar again

indigo solar
#

Auto fire is fine on every weapon but linear fusions and snipers

sand atlas
#

ill keep that in mind

indigo solar
twilit thistle
indigo solar
#

You'll have more than you know what to do with

twilit thistle
#

dont sleep on bulwark

sand atlas
#

šŸ˜”

twilit thistle
sand atlas
#

im already level 51

twilit thistle
#

Ez mats

sand atlas
#

i didnt even notice

#

theres just so many menu options in this game

red geyser
#

||XuanWei 5*||

sand atlas
#

@twilit thistle @indigo solar ok thanks for the advice, i think i understand what i have to do now

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šŸ˜„

cerulean belfry
#

Hi, anyone using four horned on ikora? Just wondering what's best perk combination for it

finite gazelle
#

Until they change how cluster interacts with her weapon mastery and passive

cerulean belfry
#

Thanks mate

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Why it says like that?

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@finite gazelle

finite gazelle
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The perk upgrade can't be acquired atm

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It exists but it doesn't drop

cerulean belfry
#

Oh, damn

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I wasted all my exotic mod choice trying to get this

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What should be the mod choice then?

indigo solar
cerulean belfry
cerulean belfry
#

Cool

pulsar coral
finite gazelle
#

I have stuff to spare so if they nerf it I can just switch to bellowing giant

cerulean belfry
#

What should be ideal choice for this one?

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@indigo solar

indigo solar
#

Or if you have a fallen or cabal you want to use for a specific activity you could use that but mid range is best general mod

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Second mod is all pretty unimportant, hit damage/handling is best if you can get it tho

cerulean belfry
indigo solar
cerulean belfry
indigo solar
#

That just increases how much damage it does at the edge of the explosion

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Decreases falloff, doesn't increase max damage

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Blast radius is better

cerulean belfry
#

I see, that's bs then

opaque granite
#

Can you create a one man pack?

candid phoenix
zenith ledge
#

Should I be worried about using weapons (like Wolf’s grenade launcher) when in pvp modes like Iron Bar or am I just paranoid because it has limited ammo šŸ™

neat valley
#

Whatever it takes to win

zenith ledge
#

Hmm… ok… I’ll just learn where the extra ammo spots are to reload šŸ™

twilit thistle
lapis swallow
#

March 26 can't come fast enough, this content drought is too much šŸ„€

twilit thistle
#

šŸ„€

stoic shard
#

Hello

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God bless y’all tonight and that jesus bring you bless health and lots loves to all of yiu good games is a pleasure to play here

twilit thistle
rotund flame
celest robin
lapis swallow
#

I couldn't care less for more characters, since they don't know how to balance them out, the grindable content is so dry, pinnacle system and matchmaking should be their main focus

wispy wadi
#

Is the anesthesia the best overall dps tower?

indigo solar
indigo solar
lapis swallow
#

She ended up being better than Maru in every way, basically powercreeping her

sharp talon
#

imagine if they did that on helhest with kabr lol

lapis swallow
#

Even if Kabr can be better in terms of DPS, still nothing if Helhest provides free ammo and teamwide Ally Bonus buffs

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If only Kabr can heal+buff your fireteam and also provide ammo šŸ’€

bold thunder
#

But like one of the earlier resets from during the wars

tight talon
#

I don't mind playing with Felwinter, Saladman, Osiris, Zavala either or Cayde 4 if that mattered

#

Anything but reskins

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Or character in lore but we never seen them if they died before Last City was built

sharp talon
#

personally i felt the new ikora was more than a reskin

tight talon
#

Hell I'd play with Shaxx

late thistle
twilit thistle
#

I predict that I will crash out at minimum 5 times tomorrow morning. Each will be over the power leaderboards.

sharp talon
twilit thistle
tight talon
#

Earlier dev cycles were good

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Characters there for 4 weeks and we get a new one so there was freshness

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Now it just keeps dragging out

sharp talon
#

hopefully the pvp event next week is good

#

morgrans on thursday this week

lapis swallow
#

Tbh, my guilty pleasure rn is playing WF on mobile now they released in on Android, right after grinding and not getting resources I need after spending pinnacle šŸ„€

twilit thistle
lapis swallow
twilit thistle
#

@indigo solar open beta?

celest robin
#

I’m just annoyed about the 5 limited banner heroes that ran before I played.

Atleast give us some sight to when or if they plan to rerun them soon. Or just do away with limited banner characters and add them to main pool.

I’ll whale out for em netease just give me ability to access lol

sharp talon
twilit thistle
indigo solar
#

And they've been advertising it as open beta in CN

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Idk why they called it full release in global

slow sable
#

One day i will do 999 plus run

lapis swallow
#

Current content is no different than closed beta

sharp talon
#

maybe they did the global launch early because development took so long

lapis swallow
#

Some games does that yeah, no ads or marketing for the first few months of the game while actually still an open beta

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Iirc, Apex Mobile did that but their open beta only lasted a month

bold thunder
indigo solar
lapis swallow
#

7DTD been beta since release šŸ’€

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Or was it alpha

sharp talon
#

how long has destiny rising been in development?

bold thunder
#

Any living dev game can be called an open beta if you want

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Makes for a great excuse for unfinished elements/bugs

bold thunder
#

Though the info we have on the development prior to the early betas is fairly vague

bitter estuary
#

iirc proof of concept has existed for around 5 years, when the development actually started though, we dont know

twilit thistle
indigo solar
indigo solar
twilit thistle
elder wing
#

Imagine losing everything on actual release Ikora

restive ruin
restive ruin
#

like spike shell is today, can u save that for tommorow still or nah

hidden carbon
#

It always resets no?

golden spade
haughty swallow
restive ruin
restive ruin
haughty swallow
#

ah, it's been a minute since I done it.

restive ruin
#

yeah same

haughty swallow
#

I used to lock it in until maintenance every week awhile back, but yea, they changed it.

restive ruin
#

ill try again this reset but i think it got patched yeah

tight talon
#

But i expect to be compensated

bitter estuary
#

balls

#

i love getting nothing

sharp talon
bitter estuary
#

that was 7 chests

bitter estuary
#

WHY netease made the event like this

#

it's impossible to get all unless you're like 3 hours a day ON frontlines

haughty swallow
#

its so dumb. basic rewards should've dropped more pieces

rotund flame
bitter estuary
#

this is already w/ me doing frontlines while queueing to find games

bitter estuary
#

if they want to make it increase every 5 chests

restive ruin
#

its crazy, Ive done 18 so far and this week the chest said 40 to make the next one. lol nah

#

if you are done with the gifting cards at least make the daily challenges start giving shards instead of lanterns idk

lapis swallow
bitter estuary
#

maybe some redmagic devices too

lapis swallow
bitter estuary
lapis swallow
#

Yep nope

bitter estuary
lapis swallow
#

We are talking about WF

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Not DRising

bitter estuary
#

oh lmaoooo

#

wf has no 120fps on either platform

#

idk de has been slow prolly

#

since there's no official switch 2 port yet

tawny plinth
#

Warframe is awesome but I played it too much (more than 1000 hours) so it got stale for me. DR is to Warframe what Diablo Immortal is to Diablo 3 imo, really hope there's no EoS incoming.

golden spade
#

Yeah i was asking about war frame and thought since it's a slow month I'll play the mobile version. Thanks Hachimi for the reply

gleaming sun
#

Hii

slow sable
lapis swallow
#

It's funny that I got a photon from the CNY chests from completing daily world events than regularly running Leggy Campaign for 3 months already (no drops) šŸ„€

oblique helm
#

Damn guys I just got polypoidy and anhilatiom AGAin on bellowing gaint

#

I think this is a sign not to use fraternity

torpid agate
#

Hello

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How is everyone?

dusty spire
cyan tide
#

Also for Ikora H annihilation is better anyway

bitter estuary
#

truth > four horned ram > bellowing giant > hon2

hidden carbon
#

Now that’s the biggest discount I’ve seen on BM

wispy wolf
#

šŸ‘ļø šŸ‘ļø

rotund raptor
neat valley
#

After you buy and refresh , they pop up im pretty sure, the discount can be different tho @rotund raptor

dusty spire
#

Anyone notice all these new lights in game?

exotic apex
dusty spire
#

Wonder what’s pulling them in?

#

App Store is on a drought

exotic apex
dusty spire
#

Not much to choose from but the same anime themed gatcha

empty kettle
cyan tide
dusty spire
jagged osprey
#

Truth is fine. Once 4horn gets patched, I think it will be go to

lapis swallow
#

They might patch 4 Horn and bugged T6 Ikora exploit on Thursday

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Best to rush the Expanse before then

elder wing
gusty bridge
dusty spire
#

Should have bottle necked us so we couldn’t hoard lol

elder wing
dusty spire
#

In terms of content completion with banner lol

dusty spire
#

I’ll just be hoarding until something titan comes

#

Otherwise now since I’ve done weapon collection to max catalyst I gotta PE stack in mail

elder wing
#

Yeah. Kinda miss the times when we were just getting new characters… was way more exiting

elder wing
#

The only worry is that we haven’t got any update on that road map…

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Did they really had no space to put New BP and New character into it or are we just not getting any of it

dusty spire
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They come back with a bang or we fizzle lol

elder wing
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So many assumptions can be made but I just wanna see some communication already from the devs… been ages

thorny frost
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Hopefully we get some communication come mid March or so. Right now they probably have a skeleton crew even in the office. Lunar new year festivities normally go on for a couple weeks. The lantern festival is on March 3rd it looks like this year which is the typical end of festivities.

dusty spire
elder wing
naive ingot
devout void
indigo solar
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but yes as an exotic it's pretty underwhelming, it doesn't beat the mythics by much

unkempt inlet
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I need more copys the wyn

smoky cipher
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Got a question pertaining to artifact attribute transfer I have a slot 2 artifact void that has ok stats but I have a solar one that’s better which will give me +240 points

Does it make a difference if it’s not the same element especially since it’s not a dmg artifact

haughty swallow
golden spade
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Would a power diffrence of 73.5 k to 74.5 k matter in calamity? I just upgraded the truth fully

pulsar coral
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it helps yes

thorny frost
golden spade
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Ah ok. Thank you all. I'm at master 1 so maybe it will help

oblique helm
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Guys bulwark ops is actually addictive and it gives good rewards. Rare win

cyan tide
oblique helm
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Thats actually a really really really good thing to know

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I was like dismantle everything to get back some mythic parts

grand swift
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Hoping the season 4 weapons are good

south cargo
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Don’t care about weapons if there’s no content to use them in

signal spade
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considering we're getting 2 new strikes new blitz and a new raid

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ill assume youll have content to use them in

neat valley
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I can just imagine them using the same map but this time we go thru it backwards 😭

signal spade
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sure

devout void
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no maintenance this week again

neat valley
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since most of the content has already been made, I don’t really see a excuse for them

neat valley
signal spade
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ikoras been in the game less than 2 weeks

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LOL

devout void
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yes

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it was expected during their holliday, until march

neat valley
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And no community messages or communication from the devs either , just automated messages

rotund wind
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that alone makes me uneasy

stone jungle
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Hey guys, I kinda fell off a little before the Crota Raid, and haven't played since the Crota release. Have I missed much?

signal spade
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if you didnt get your free kabr, rip

neat valley
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You missed out on crota, that’s all

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The rest is mid

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And maybe some photons

neat valley
soft glen
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What happened to content in this game? It fells off right after the first raid

neat valley
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The are just releasing it slowly

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Tbh we don’t really know the real answer

cyan tide
soft glen
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Too slowly. Haven’t had an incentive to play ever since. You finish the campaign and you just grind characters and battle passes like cmon