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[bitter estuary]

but idk i might be wrong

[sharp talon]

probably with the banner stuff?

[bitter estuary]

maybe

[wispy wolf]

Mother I crave graviton lance

[stray yew]

Hello anyonr can help with takanobu?

Help a noob out

[pine skiff]

Might’ve gotten annoyed ngl

[rotund raptor]

Which? Or should i wait till ikora goes normal banner

[cyan tide]

I'd wait

[rotund raptor]

Okayy

[devout void]

i wait

[rotund raptor]

Okayy

[pulsar coral]

Wait, but either Ning or Ikora

[rotund raptor]

Is ikora t2 good cuz i have her t1 already

[paper gyro]

why no work mumuplayer for install this game ?

[bitter estuary]

i'd also wait lol

[leaden osprey]

They dont even do weekly update now lol

[neat valley]

It should work , or try blue stacks

[paper gyro]

blue stacks no like

[neat valley]

No more free lumia leaves 🤧

[rotund raptor]

Okayy lol

[sharp talon]

they put in next week's morgrans hunt in last patch

[leaden osprey]

I spend everything I have no regrets even they close game tmr

[leaden osprey]

Yeah——- Morgan’s forever ——-

[rotund raptor]

Theybworking for the big update lol

[pulsar coral]

I think they’re taking a break, crazy to think they’re humans that need a break ?? So are we.

[rotund raptor]

True

[hidden carbon]

Everything basically shuts down for chinese new year

Till at least the end of feb

[rotund raptor]

Wow fr so even the next week there will be no maintenence?

[pulsar coral]

Till March 5th 💀

I think that’s why they put some much leaves in the blooming event

[sharp talon]

i want the leaves from cordon back 😢

[pulsar coral]

I was thinking maybe this cordon was like a test to see what our feedback would be ?? Maybe they will make the wave version of the content we actually expected. If not, I’d still enjoy it if it comes back. I could see coming back last 2 weeks of the season.

[neat valley]

Bro you said a break when everything’s that been released so far was already in the beta/alpha, so what have they really worked on ? 😭

Counting our money

[pulsar coral]

I wouldn’t mind like a super hard endless wave mode. Limited revives. No speedrunning and last as long as possible. Either just surviving or protecting an objective from being destroyed or captured.

Add some good milestones for waves clear, and good rewards for replay so it’s not just clear and done like how cordon was.

Maybe even challenges as well, for example “create/ use a team of each element type” “4* characters only*

Etc

[marsh birch]

I wouldn’t mind new content

[pulsar coral]

Maybe family time? lol I’m just going off what someone said based on the holiday

[marsh birch]

Just once

[pulsar coral]

How can I add this to suggestions for the devs?

[neat valley]

Yeah like prison of elders from d1

It’s not that hard of a concept

[golden spade]

Wait for Ikora

[pulsar coral]

I didn’t play d1 or d2 but yea I’d imagine it’s been done before lol

Destiny Rising Zombies lol

[lapis swallow]

When is their upcoming big update again on March?

[pulsar coral]

March 26th 🥳😩

[lapis swallow]

3 days after my bday ffs lmao

[neat valley]

You can give them all your birthday money now

Yay

[rotund raptor]

Good for em

[lapis swallow]

Nu uh, I got better games to spend

[rotund raptor]

Lets hope that uodate will be good

[lapis swallow]

They could make 80-90% of the content solo friendly, the rest with teammups with better rewards

[neat valley]

I really hope it is but at the same time I’m just not getting my hopes up about it

[lapis swallow]

Improved pinnacle system with passive regen and overflow system

Not the capped 120 each day

[neat valley]

We need the new mars area and a new WHOLE area to explore too , otherwise this content drought wasn’t worth it

[pulsar coral]

If this rework flops, DR is in trouble

[rotund raptor]

Moon too also more places to visit on earth

[lapis swallow]

Well it is what it is. Warframe Mobile is now available and TDR coming in anyways

[lapis swallow]

Not just content drought, we desperately need new players, like 90% of the endgame is unplayable due to matchmaking barely existing

[bitter estuary]

I do NOT want something with regen

[lapis swallow]

It would take weeks and months with the current system for new players to catch up with the old players

[bitter estuary]

Overflow would be nice

[lapis swallow]

WuWa has regen system, once you start using the 240 waveplates, it will slowly charge up, full again in 24 hrs, it has 480 overflow system, it will only charge up if you have full 240. That's the type of system I want for the pinnacle

If they still won't change the pinnacle system, just make the first 3 drops guaranteed, not gambling the pinnacle over useless drops

[cyan tide]

I'd rather have the flat 120 per day, regen is annoying because if one day you play at a later time you completely screw up your schedule

[neat valley]

Because the game has the same content since the game came out , if I played month 1 of the game release and I just came back finally now , there’s really nothing different at all that was added as new content

[pulsar coral]

Expanse 31-40 and Bulwark. That’s it lol

[sharp talon]

and crota

[pulsar coral]

It’ll expire soon maybe?

[sharp talon]

yea when s4 launches

[pulsar coral]

But look, Crota is dead lol

[sharp talon]

i still find games on occasion

some people are still farming mods i think

[naive ingot]

Tbf you only need 3 and farm deathsingers

[candid tusk]

You only need 2 for deathsingers

[neat valley]

Damn 10 more rounds of the same rounds

[neat valley]

Yeah that’s why most came back and then they saw nothing else was new so they left lol

Even the character story’s of Estella and Gwynn and others , new people can’t play

[tropic swift]

Theres the new Blitz Maps, Bulwark, Crota.. And thats it i think.. 😅
S4 can't start soon enough.
3rd RSR Area should hopefully be a decent size, I guess a lot of the new Campaign will be set there (though i doubt the Campaign will be of the same size as the Vanilla Campaign), we also have a Seasonal Campaign which hopefully involves more than just talking to people like this season.

Also new Blitz and Onslaught 🔥

[keen cave]

Season 4 should reimagine how game works

Without it game will die pretty fast

[dusty spire]

Won’t be a rework it will be a simple expansion with storable items you can obtain for more pinnacle when needed.

They have a generic gatcha progression loop

[keen cave]

Then they'll have a generic EoS 😉

[dusty spire]

If you say so

[tight talon]

New Strike, The Pit reverse. Big Servitor thanks you for maintenance and you now need to leave the area

[dusty spire]

I need professional evidence and structure break downs otherwise it’s all “trust me bro”

Or I think I know

Got no time for it

[thorny frost]

Isn’t that…. What we basically have but more complicated? You just explained a system that can potentially carry up to 3 days worth of energy. I am assuming as “max” is 240 the overflow tho is rather slower or is not as advantageous as normal energy.

The idea of a generate over time or lump sum is basically the same concept if energy doesn’t hit max in one day, if energy can hit max in one day or less then the recharge rate is more of a hinderance for players as it makes the feel they are “losing out” if they don’t log in the game before the time it maxes out. With the energy dump, you could play in the morning one day and the evening the next without fear of burning energy.

[keen cave]

Problem is not a concept of pinnacle itself, but PE wall that restricts resouces.
You cannot get some of resources without PE or Keys.
You cannot upgrade you characters fast enough. You cannot try any other playstyles, because you need 1-2 months to upgrade you character to the point where he can be useful in calamity, expanse, etc

[dusty spire]

Overflowing is quite good since it keeps the progression over time without fomo. I think it’s in ZZZ too

[dusty spire]

Yes it’s a progression over time model…

Progression over timeeeeeee

Lord

Just say the monetary system don’t let you progress how you want

[thorny frost]

Explain to me how it differs from having a 3 day cap? The idea is still you can have up to 3 days worth of energy. What you can do with that energy wouldn’t change if they put a cap at 120 and let us overflow 240 it just would “feel” different and not allow as flexible game play wise.

[keen cave]

My account was full t6, with most of the characters 75.5k +
But even i didn't have resources to max my 4* and play with it

[dusty spire]

You don’t miss out on progression

[sharp talon]

i recall they mentioned some of these reasons in their pinnacle blog post

[dusty spire]

Ok that don’t mean nothing

Progress over time

Not T6 anyone can do that from banner lol

[keen cave]

It doesn't matter.
The time needed to max 1 character is soooo long

[dusty spire]

Progress over time

[keen cave]

Concepts (like PoT) means nothing if your player base is not satisfied

[dusty spire]

It’s a collectors game your tiers are nothing to do with pinnacle

Only the two area of progression

Weapon inventory

[keen cave]

And? Looks like 5h1t

[tight talon]

Keys and Mobius Clusters or whatever those are called are major annoyance. You cant experiment with weapons on release or figure out best combos. Gotta wait for Tubers or someone to define good stuff

Then its general annoyance of how Calamity is just Helhest T6 to win with some sprinkling in of oobs and glitching. You can just stay in expert I and still build a character if you skip over Weapon mastery 5. and Expanse you just do it when it releases and nothing to do again for 6 weeks or so till new character drops and you repeat all of it again.

Whats that Artifact? Farming? Big Words, you dont need more than 2 gold thumbs up. Whats that? Photon Cores? the weapon you are using will be irrelevant after next act is done.

Whats that Chaos? Good Mode. Too bad it doesnt reward anything

[keen cave]

Only 1 wepon per character is maxed

[thorny frost]

And that is where the debate comes in, how often should players be able to max a unit? How much game play time should allow for this, and how much should be accelerated? Mobile gaming focuses more on a crowd that don’t put hours in each day and this is why “boosted rate” system can work for them. Each game developer will have a set amount of time they will want you to invest before maxing a unit, and drop rates will be set accordingly (I could see photons being set at .25% - .5% chance if put on basic rewards based on their current concepts)

[dusty spire]

Have fun we can speak in chat seriously about the model rather than talk word based crap. Invitation is there when you’re ready.

I’ll give you all the time to speak lol

[bold thunder]

Why are we acting like there's one singular issue plaguing the game?

You're all correct

[keen cave]

No one cares 🙂

[dusty spire]

Clearly you do

Didn’t you quit ?

[keen cave]

Only things which is important it's complex problem

[dusty spire]

Welcome back I guess

[keen cave]

And player base declining

[dusty spire]

Top secret 10 pull lol

Some joke talk

[keen cave]

Thx Discord for ability to block toxic users 😄

[dusty spire]

I’m not into popularity contests just real tangible ideas

[versed scroll]

It will be very sus if the next character will be Mythic Wolf.

[dusty spire]

The best part is it don’t affect me lol or change anything on my opinion lol

[versed scroll]

Anyone got Triple Mythic?

[empty kettle]

Mythic wolf will "surely" be good

[dusty spire]

I got ammo for EOS Doomers all day lol

Especially the I got a secret double myth game is broken type lol

[tight talon]

cause people who play the game (havent been playing since release), cant build charas and people who dont, cant find a reason to play lol

[thorny frost]

I think it is just where people focus their attention. Everyone has the “last straw” which will vary from everyone. There can be arguments made for and against, and what someone sees as a fix others might see as a downgrade.

Examples for me: energy recharge vs lump sum, I prefer not to plan what time of day I play the game.

Complete removal of PE: this will increase in game grind time as they will still want to artificially extend how long you take to grind. It isn’t as kind to our time if we don’t keep some form of increased rates (probably sacrificing average rate tho).

[versed scroll]

Yeah but why not new characters?

[dusty spire]

Not sure but once you know the secret please let me know 😉

[empty kettle]

Wolf is expected to get a Mythic upgrade of some kind

[scenic wigeon]

Lack of content and a gameplay loop that isn't really that rewarding, the blooming if fine the 1st timenyou do it then you realize how much of a grind its gonna be to get those boxes

[versed scroll]

Never even experience Double Mythic tho. 🤣

[versed scroll]

Lorewise, yeah. Maybe when we face Crota again

[keen cave]

That's right, but grind time is already high enough.
And a lot of resources which are necessary for f2p players are power related.
You cannot get maximum resources from Calamity, because u cannot upgrade you characters, but resources for character upgrade are in Calamity Ops.

You need to spend 7k PE and tons of time to get 4/4 Exotic artifact.

You cannot upgrade your Artifacts, because u need to spend PE on Legendary campaing to LVL up your weapon.

The whole PE management system doesn't work just because ALL important resources require PE (And you don't have enough)

[dusty spire]

Just say you want more

Out of progress over time

😅

Must be first time gatcha players

[scenic wigeon]

At least we can stock up energy by not claiming it and it goes to the mailbox

[tight talon]

my guy, how long have you been playing for?

[keen cave]

Since 1 week

[tight talon]

No wonder

[versed scroll]

As an F2P. I am fine with progress. But matchmaking is troublesome. I can't play a coop mode immediately cuz no players are queueing. Aside from playerbase, dedicated players already got most of the rewards from the pool so that's why they will not queue it again.

How will they make the player base increase?

[tight talon]

I am just gonna say this, reach acclaim 82 (i am that after playing from release on Aug 27? 2025) and you will have so many resources that you will lose the will to play

[naive ingot]

28th

[tight talon]

and this is totally F2P

i have all characters on Gold Medal, many of them on exotic weapons that are Free

except ikora 4*, xuan wei, finnala and rossi

[versed scroll]

Is it the game's design?

[tight talon]

they should make expanse and calamity reset on rotating basis

[keen cave]

Since first 1 week of release....

[dusty spire]

I’ve shown already progress over time was fine

[versed scroll]

Lol

[dusty spire]

The devs could have helped break it down for users and the concept

[empty kettle]

Yeah, they sent the same thing

[tight talon]

and you are complaining about lack of Exotic Clusters and Exotic Artifacts? and Weapons?

[dusty spire]

So PE weren’t wasted on micro objectives that have no return

But yeah progress over time has worked

Just required a bit of resources management

[versed scroll]

Dang

[empty kettle]

Too many bots hidden in this server

[keen cave]

Well, yeah

[dusty spire]

Oh and paying into the live service

Since neteas is running a business

Not a completely free service

[tight talon]

its not even that, just really dont push 5/5 weapon mastery and do spend BM coins on Photon than BP Tokens

thats all

[dusty spire]

So they sell you progression in the BM

Otherwise everything else they sell is access too

[keen cave]

Don't teach me how to play 😄

[dusty spire]

No one don’t wanna teach you

[keen cave]

Mate, i've optimized all possible resources

[dusty spire]

I don’t care lol

But you here talking what ever

[tight talon]

idk man, instead of chasing 4/4 exotic just be fine with having 3/4 or 2/4. I got that and i consistently stay Expert I cause i dont have friends running HH T6 24/7 xd

[dusty spire]

Show your optimised resources then

[keen cave]

And still it's just not enough to keep main 5* characters to perform well in Endgame and build my 4* characters

[dusty spire]

Tag me when it’s interesting

[sinful totem]

How long have you been playing

[dusty spire]

Well I got enough day 1

So I don’t know what your doing

[tight talon]

1 week since release

i mean release week

[sinful totem]

Goddamn

[dusty spire]

Maybe you got to much to manage on your account interms of hero pool

And now your finding it hard to progressive over time scale your heroes

[tight talon]

i mean its established to follow a pattern even tho it went haywire with Kabr's release

[keen cave]

I would love to see person with all 4* and 5* characters being 75k

[dusty spire]

I don’t know 🤷‍♂️

My pool so far

[keen cave]

Or 73k

[tight talon]

what's the point of having them, genuinely 😭

[dusty spire]

I only manage that

So if I keep adding

[keen cave]

That means Progress Over Time is not working

[dusty spire]

More to manage over time

Actually it means it does

[keen cave]

Because available resources cannot keep up

[dusty spire]

Because I’ll be ahead of the curve in S4

If you know how that works

[indigo solar]

In fact it had its own bugs, sometimes if the player count in an instance was low it would switch you to a new one, but it would reset your ability charge to zero

[dusty spire]

With resources over time

[keen cave]

I have so many blocke dmessages 😄
This guy is trying hard

[dusty spire]

lol let me not go there

Clearly and upset quitter

[tight talon]

I mean its established that Progress over time is really more of

New Character drops,
Build them, Use them while they shine
New Character Drops, Use Old Character to get Resources for the new
Build New Character, Use them while they shine.
Drop Old Character when cycle changes, New Character drops, farm for them

[dusty spire]

I need more secrets for triple myth drops

[empty kettle]

Rinse and repeat

[tight talon]

the whole ball game of building old/irrelevant characters when they are best gonna be used for Open World or Solo GM is just nah ;-;

[dusty spire]

That’s the flex rn

[sharp talon]

helhest drops, only build helhest 😂 some people have a lot of resources doing that

[dusty spire]

This too lol

[tight talon]

I swear, HH Rerun is gonna be the game reviving funding

[naive ingot]

Unless your me lol 🤣😅

[tight talon]

too many people with wallets gonna let go their life savings

[tight talon]

https://tenor.com/view/tecchou-suehiro-tecchou-clairecchou-gif-13593765689203078482

[sharp talon]

i only worked on jaren and i hoarded enough to make my ning fei usable in calamity. some people have hoarded since helhest 💀 cant imagine the amount of resources they have

[dusty spire]

It’s quite simply the more heroes you focus the more resources needed

[keen cave]

It would kill Kabr 😄

[dusty spire]

Do look forward to the area expansion

Something to do world map wise

[thorny frost]

If attempting to max a unit yes it does take a lot of materials, but the game rarely punishes you for not having maxed units. After tier 9 on your artifacts the amount you put into artifacts have huge diminishing returns. And with the introduction of season artifacts enhancers they made reaching that threshold a lot easier.

Weapons we are only allowed 1 exotic at a time so per season we only “need” maybe 2 (one for current modifier one for previous), anything after that is to build diversity. The game gives more then enough to compete (besides getting T6 units every season but that isn’t a pinnacle issue) but the build up play time by having us spend the time to diversify or min max.

The amount of time spent to get up to competative and not perfect is doable in under 15 minutes a day over time. What people want is to feel they can play longer and not have their time wasted. But what if the game released where that 15 minutes took an hour to get the same rewards and you can grind for 25% of that rewards (arbitrary number) after that? Would that be better for all these players having trouble catching up?

[sinful totem]

Gotta min max the frontline farms broski

[sinful totem]

Yes exactly

[dusty spire]

I don’t like managing a lot, I’m more simple life

[keen cave]

I'm not speaking about regular gaming.
The game is really good for casual play

[sinful totem]

If you invest in every single character since release obviously you have little to no resources

[keen cave]

I'm speaking about endgame

[dusty spire]

But that personal preference

[thorny frost]

My progress, get T6 for a unit skip the next relavent unit of similar type as the power creep won’t be large enough to warrant pulling to max another unit XD.

[dusty spire]

Why I ride a motorcycle lol

Less to manage lol 🫣

But if you want to manage a lot of heroes and the resources that come with the design that’s on you

[sinful totem]

What resources are we talking about like specifically

[dusty spire]

Similar I just target pull titans

[sinful totem]

Clusters…?

[keen cave]

What would you do in endgame?
Content is dead and repetitve (Thx Cordon, GM LE and no updates in Calamity)
Routine is unrewarding
I would love to build my 4* characters to do some fun runs, build strategy for 4* characters in the Endgame and etc.

[dusty spire]

I got resources ready for the next Titan

[keen cave]

And here's the problem I cannot max my 4* characters to enjoy it

[dusty spire]

But I get it some players want the whole pool

Maxed out now

With nothing to do over time because we want it now

[tight talon]

more power to you broski, i cba. I only open frontlines for bounties that dont complete on strikes, legendary campaign or Expanse

[sinful totem]

You’re complaining about not having resources for characters that are objectively worse than 5* star variants tho

[dusty spire]

Want it now BM is the source to progression at a premium

[tight talon]

Nahh

[keen cave]

It's complex problem of the endgame activities, not about my 4* resources

[sinful totem]

They gotta bottle neck us somehow or else people would say that maxing out a character fully would be too easy

[keen cave]

And what is the problem with that?

[sinful totem]

Clusters and maybe fruits should be the only things that are tight to come by

[keen cave]

It'll allow people who can put some efforts to be competitive against Whales in the endgame

[sinful totem]

Everything else you should be flooded with b

[sharp talon]

fruits are not really a rare resource after you dump pinnacle into chaos

[keen cave]

Yeah, byproduct of Art essences

[sinful totem]

Dawg they want more whales than less in this kind of game. It’s a free to play - gacha lol

[dusty spire]

I’m gonna use my PE and get some resources now towards my overall progression, as we have been doing since s1.

I’d agree coming up soon we need some type of new light event that gets them some good progression over time resources to close the gap from day 1s

[keen cave]

Do you see a lot of whale stay? 🙂

[sinful totem]

Yeah you just gotta have the pinnacle energy to dump in the first place

[keen cave]

Statistic wise

[sinful totem]

I don’t watch player login statistics I just play the game and enjoy it for myself

[sharp talon]

yea i havent done legendary campaign in a while after dumping all on chaos daily. i forgot they even had free weekly rewards until this week 💀

[tight talon]

wrong attitude, you only compete with whales if you cheat in C Ops with OOBs/stuck. NecessaRY EVILL else everyone will be 999# instead

[sinful totem]

Obsessing over player statistics is mega weird

[thorny frost]

Leaderboard end games will always have some form of this, they have the min maxing take the most time to keep players invested in the repetitive game play loop. Without the leaderboard you need minimal min maxing to hit the points needed (and decent skill level) master 1 isn’t horrible if you invested some and have a good team. Clearing expanse 40 can be done with suboptimal builds. We need more end games for sure that puts a use to our stats, I can agree with that, and I do agree having some more value to our grind after pinnacle is burnt is needed. I was initially just pointing to the idea that people in general don’t want pinnacle how it is, but the pinnacle system is more player friendly then possibly pure grind systems. We need a balance between the 2 where players feel their time is rewarded.

[dusty spire]

😬👌🏾

[keen cave]

Pure gold

Thx

[sinful totem]

I’ll drop this game if the next season end up looking wack and under delivers. Ikora 2.0 actually ended up being a fun addition to our units and I’m enjoying her right now

[dusty spire]

Guess it boils down to managing to much heroes

And we got another possibly coming in 35 days

[tight talon]

just allow pinnacle to be crafted into keys or mobius clusters or photons. Really. Dont want fruits or parameters or anything after a point ;-;

[sinful totem]

Yeah you can’t have every single hero fully maxed with exotic and mythic weapons to go and not of whaled at some point

I don’t think it’s possible tbf

[sinful totem]

How many parameter are you sitting on

[tight talon]

17k

[dusty spire]

Definitely without paying into the live service definitely

[sinful totem]

Do you have every double mythic perk combination for all the weapons

[tight talon]

i dont want for all weapons, i only want for characters that are in current cycle

[sinful totem]

So no

[tight talon]

you wont see me playing Xuan Wei on Frontlines

[dusty spire]

Only reason I keep up to date with my weapon inventory is because I buy 2 photons a weeks from BM

I just convert the 180 silver then buy a photon using that pinnacle reserve amount

That way my photon inventory at a minimal £2.99 keeps relatively stable

But that’s just me paying into the live service

Otherwise I’m working with neteas slowest progression free to play loop

[tight talon]

literally junk until next 200 parameter engram shows up

[sinful totem]

I mean, perspective i guess

I like the idea of collecting all possible mythic rolls for a weapon

We have enough space to do that + hold exotic dupes for future catalysts upgrade

[tight talon]

would be fine if legendary or rare perks could be exotic modded.

or half the mythic perks were useful to run. many weapons only 3rd or 4th column has one perk thats very useful and others are not worth having

[dusty spire]

Exactly each account progression is dependent on individual, some don’t even want to touch particular weapons and or hero types. Some want it all, just depends what you want that determines the type of progression pressure you feel.

[sinful totem]

Perfectly said

[sinful totem]

We do need netease to release more of the mythic perk upgrades

That would help diversify our options on a lot of this gear

[echo bloom]

Slt a toutes et à tous

[sharp talon]

i finally got a 3/3 exotic roll for wolf 💀

[prisma kettle]

Yeet

[oblique helm]

Emea

I dont think its that big of a deal, singularity chaos is fun and gives alot of resources.

[dusty spire]

Add me : Real

If you need help and I’m free

[twilit thistle]

Tech used for the vex, with low lvl towers. “Adblocker plus”.

[neat valley]

Me

[violet minnow]

Does anyone know how the truth cat 2 and 3 works? It description is hard to understand, so it's 30% cat 2 + 50% cat 3 = 70%, or 30% into 50% total?

[neat valley]

Maxing old characters is a waste of resources when the new ones are always better

no one cares about people and their collecting in this game

[visual wharf]

its still crazy to me thats threats got banned after crotas but the rest of his team didnt

[cobalt beacon]

real

[twilit thistle]

🤐

[candid tusk]

he didn't get banned for crota lol

[cobalt beacon]

wdym he did

[candid tusk]

xd

[candid tusk]

that's not from crota but good troll fo sho

[cobalt beacon]

you dont even know bro

how you gonna tell me!

[candid tusk]

xd xd xd

[cobalt beacon]

@visual wharf that dirty fugger

[twilit thistle]

🤐

[visual wharf]

he literally did he canceled his marathon preorder cause of it hes done with bungie

[neat valley]

That’s what people get for believing in bungie

[candid tusk]

now which account is his alt account 👀

indeed indeed

[cobalt beacon]

yea he got banned you really believe he refunded

lolssssss

[neat valley]

no one’s going to admit they got banned it’s common sense

[candid tusk]

if he got banned, it wasn't for crota then

[neat valley]

It ruins all your accomplishments

[cobalt beacon]

keep believing that lil bru

dirty cheater!

[candid tusk]

like that fulminator OOBing last time, wonder who was on that team

[cobalt beacon]

idk who was? prob some cheaters

[twilit thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

[sand salmon]

Did threats actually get banned?

[keen cave]

Even if you try to sale your account it will be very very hard

Because prices are way down

[sand salmon]

Guy was a speed running demon fr

[past hamlet]

Best Mythic Sniper Rifle for Umeko? And what perks?

[cobalt beacon]

Cheater

[keen cave]

Trk was)

[twilit thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/mèo-troll-buồn-khóc-gif-15310748970221777264

[stiff breach]

Since cluster bomb and vorpal dont have exotic mods yet what are the best substats to look for

[half sky]

🫣

[elder linden]

Me avisan cuando el juego salga en Xbox Series X 🥵👌🏽

[woeful oar]

Is there any story missions for kabr the resolute and Ikara the hidden? I can’t find them anywhere

[sharp talon]

no

[dusty spire]

Do we have a list on secret triumphs ?

And completion guide ?

[woeful oar]

Oh ok. But then when I go the characters and season progression, it shows that the story is there but at 0%

[sharp talon]

the season overview thing?

[dusty spire]

Ok so I’ve just noticed this what am I doing 😅😩

Didn’t even realise

[woeful oar]

Yeah and even when you go the characters progression, lores, etc…it shows 0 and when you click on it it says progress in the story

[sharp talon]

that's the season story, i think you need to hit specific levels on bulwark ops to progress that (not sure). because we've been getting a new cutscene from that every week until now

it says its finished now for me

we might be talking about different things xd

im talking about the distant shadow thing here

[celest robin]

Netease didn’t add the new Ikora to the Gold Medal Bundle pool. Wonder why

[oblique helm]

Sure sure sure, added name : Zeroflux

Do you get enough medals to unlock all acclaim bonuses?

[elder wing]

She was rush made character lmao

[dusty spire]

I wouldn’t say rushed but i think just released during a busy period for the CN

Released during a break 😅

I’m waiting pull when the work force is active 😅

[half sky]

This thing bugged or em I missing something did solo and co op used pinnacle energy on chests still 0/6

[sharp talon]

its 3 player normal not endless

[half sky]

Thanks gonna try that

[dusty spire]

Is the catch game difficult to get done

Is takes up time?

[celest robin]

Yeah but all you just said sounds like a rushed release to me.

Unfinished update pushed out to hit a deadline instead of holding off to ship a finished product when they’re able

[dusty spire]

Your right it’s been rushed out

[half sky]

There 2 player and 4 player version just go there and win need real people tho if u have a friend tell them to lose willingly

[dusty spire]

The execution to deliver hikora was nothing like Kabr

[celest robin]

I’m just surprised they missed an additional monetization portion of this characters release

Normally that’s priority over anything else

[signal spade]

the only difference is kabr had a trailer

season 1 was crota and bulwark

[dusty spire]

I feel it was literally a release to fill the gap whilst they go on holiday

When they come back then the team has time to work into the year

[quaint orbit]

Ikora is fun to play, I t6'd her 🤪

[dusty spire]

Definitely looks fun

[celest robin]

I agree. Just odd since they’re missing out on quick monetization that they pretty much just need to copy and paste from other characters. The gold medal thing

[signal spade]

you can only buy 10 gold medal bundles

[celest robin]

I’m at 7. New ikora didn’t have one yetregardless

[signal spade]

after 10 they stop showing up as an option entirely

[dusty spire]

I’m sure it will open up again to about 12

But hikora should be selectable now

[signal spade]

every season theyve been adding +2 it seems

[dusty spire]

Exactly

[elder wing]

Yeah but that rushed lmao they even had new weapons and trailer for kabr

[stiff breach]

Hope they come out with a new road map or else no new character next season lol

[quaint orbit]

So I guess old prefect is pretty useless now because they shadow nerfed it for T6 Jaren. Maybe this is old news but I am just finding out lol

[stiff breach]

Never used it lol

[cobalt beacon]

Old news

If you mean the burn building stacks

[quaint orbit]

Yeah, I'm not in here 24/7 like some people though

[cobalt beacon]

Bro just called me out what am i to do now

[indigo solar]

Rightfully so, you spend way too much time talking here

[cobalt beacon]

My favourite past time

Also you yap more than me what does that make you

[indigo solar]

Nuh uh

[cobalt beacon]

Brother is lvl 100 on this discord

[twilit thistle]

👀

[cobalt beacon]

Maybe 1000 now atp

[indigo solar]

Reported for misinformation

[cobalt beacon]

Noooooo the soyboys are gonna get me

[indigo solar]

I'm only level 40 smh

[cobalt beacon]

The discord mods noooo

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

[cobalt beacon]

Your getting there

I respect it twin

[indigo solar]

Level 40 takes ~30.5k xp, level 100 takes 196k

[cobalt beacon]

Hmm youll get there

I believe in you

Thats my coach fr

[indigo solar]

Yeah just give me 8 more years

[twilit thistle]

[cobalt beacon]

Nah one good update and you got it

[indigo solar]

Yeah, 8 years, like I said

[cobalt beacon]

Hmm

[twilit thistle]

||haxor||

[cobalt beacon]

Holy

Go outside 😭😭

Yall talking trash about me

Aka not you

But taniks

#1 server

Bro got it on discord but not on the game

🥲

[indigo solar]

Nuh uh I'm #18 in Texas on fishing leaderboard

Watch how you talk to me

[cobalt beacon]

Wait teach me

[indigo solar]

So when you see the fishing icon change

Tap it

Took me a while to learn

[cobalt beacon]

Taniks do you know about the frog emote freezing time in expanse

[indigo solar]

That was a bit was it not

Talking about the Reddit thread

[cobalt beacon]

Nah its real

@indigo solar cmon man

[twilit thistle]

If u want to get to taniks, break the current go ghost go #1 score (254356)

[cobalt beacon]

You dont know about the frog emote freezing time after killing a yellow bar

[indigo solar]

I do know about a hidden portal tho lmao

[cobalt beacon]

Wait till he realises that people on expanse leaderboard have no life no girl no goals in life

And they dont just try 3x and get it

[indigo solar]

you don't

I play it perfectly the first try

[cobalt beacon]

Ah i forgot

[indigo solar]

But my scores get removed bc NetEase thinks I'm TASing

[cobalt beacon]

How could i forget

You use the frog emote

[sinful totem]

What is TAS

[sinful totem]

Is this AI

[cobalt beacon]

No its expanse tech

[sinful totem]

Woah

[sinful totem]

That’s insane lol

Dr Strange type shhhhi

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-dr-strange-strange-benedict-cumberbatch-avengers-gif-22604801

[indigo solar]

Tool-Assisted Speedrun

[sinful totem]

So like aim bot?

[indigo solar]

Usually in the form of slowing down the game's tickrate so you can get frame-perfect plays

Or aim bot

[twilit thistle]

Ur joking right? They can clearly see what device you are on.

[dusty spire]

Old perfect is for scorch comp

[neat valley]

Bros lost

[dusty spire]

So when jaren is teamed up with scorch procers the combined effort will be recognised

Can’t wait

Old perfect + jotuun user

[exotic sinew]

💀

[dusty spire]

Somethings are just a bit early lol

[thorny frost]

Things make a lot more sense when you look at it from the Chinese version side. They just got Jaren this update, and people said they had their season 2 and 3 combined. If that is true then Maru released with Kabr right after Helhest, which they would have arc precision still in their CalOps/expanse. Ikora comes right after Maru when they still have spread in their CalOps/expanse.

This also explains why we had Jaren as a “test” unit during the worlds first leaderboard time period. They made it so the different servers all had the same units (I assume he was on CN for test too but I have no real verification there)

These units are also for “free” while another limited banner is running so that CN could still pull for every unit getting their T0 version. And after these we will have another new raid and possible world first where now all servers are equal.

[exotic sinew]

There’s a vid going on claiming if you pull at 55, the pity chance carries over for the 5-9 pulls after you get the character. So 5-9 with a 20% chance drop rate

[indigo solar]

Yes

[dusty spire]

Oh no the secrets out 😂😂

I don’t know but if you care to try it have fun

Gotta hit that 55 first lol

[neat valley]

why are people thinking it’s impossible to get a good time in expanse ?

you can have the best loadout but if you suck then you just suck

[dusty spire]

I don’t think they think it’s impossible to get a good time, it’s more that some of the times they are seeing are questionable

I’ve seen very impressive time runs that helped me curve my time drastically

But I’ve never seen a live 3-4 minute run yet tbf

[neat valley]

I’ve seen videos of people doing those runs and I just copied and I got very similar runs

[dusty spire]

Actually i see 1 Kabr run

[neat valley]

it’s that easy

[dusty spire]

Fastsssss

[thorny frost]

I tried it just because, pulled the initial on 56 pull and no other 5* for the other 9 pulls XD. I would like to see their “success” rate as in reality they are just guaranteeing 1 and giving themselves a 5-9% chance of getting a second

[dusty spire]

Lot of skippable options for time gain but it’s the 3 minute runs I’ve not seen

[neat valley]

Some rounds are luck yeah because the games weird af but if you do it enough , the enemies will become memorable

[dusty spire]

If you want it just pull…don’t over complicate rng

[neat valley]

True

less than 3 minutes yeah

[dusty spire]

You’ll be playing another type of gatcha if you do that …. Brain hurt lol

So I’m open to anything when it comes to what could potentially happen in expanse

[cobalt beacon]

He quit the game and got yall with that fake bs @keen cave you cooked

Goat ragebait

[exotic sinew]

It would be a 1% chance 5-9 times, not 5% :P - if the gacha works normal

[dusty spire]

It’s the same thing for calamity and players keeping hush about unstuck until it got around

[thorny frost]

I just decided to do it because I was close. I already knew it was just due to force pity and reminder.

[mossy holly]

Sooo ig no maintenance today

[cobalt beacon]

“Im stepping back from destiny rising”

duplicate 5 star drops right after

[exotic sinew]

If he got banned wouldn’t he be taken off the leaderboards? Thought that’s what happened to banned players

[cobalt beacon]

The goat ragebaiter

[dusty spire]

How to duplicate 😂

I’m done 😩🤣

[twilit thistle]

👀

[exotic sinew]

The top video is the video I was just referring too aha

[dusty spire]

I’m definitely putting that one down as click bait lol

[neat valley]

Gacha secret

[cobalt beacon]

Yea bro is a top tier gaslighter

[exotic sinew]

See

[neat valley]

That’s a click bait title for sure

[cobalt beacon]

Quits the game and decides to gaslighter

[thorny frost]

1% chance 5 times is 4.911% chance, 1% chance 9 times is ~8.64% chance. I was giving a range of chance with the remainder pills

[dusty spire]

That’s it ima become a CC

😂

[exotic sinew]

If this wasn’t a gacha sure, but it’s 50/50 no matter what

[thorny frost]

I didn’t care I was close XD it wasn’t anything off my back. I just felt like doing it to “show” it was wrong. If it isn’t easily repeatablez

[exotic sinew]

[thorny frost]

Now you sound like i coworker o have lol

[neat valley]

my next video is , how to get 100% decal success chance, I wonder how many views I’ll get

[exotic sinew]

You either win or ya don’t!

[thorny frost]

Just save up for 5 attempts. Don’t let netease know they left this hack in

[neat valley]

you have to do a cartwheel , right after doing a handstand then you blink twice and it works

[bitter estuary]

there's this thing called drafts

unless you see them online ingame idk

[cobalt beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1288648370067345448/1404556006314475640/thinkmonkey.gif

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/asian-stud-giribiogger-xdaniagif-gif-15161105707792210862

[neat valley]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-bye-russia-ishowspeed-funny-meme-earth-gif-15495811749767980238

[cobalt beacon]

Tis my gf

[thorny frost]

Then everyone can just put decals on my cast when I break my arm XD

[bitter estuary]

balls

[exotic sinew]

[neat valley]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[neat valley]

That would be way cooler than what we get in game

imagine destiny rising decals on your cast , that’s a flex

[serene void]

I know this is a weird/pessimistic question, but does anyone know how quick Netease is to eos their games? I'm a minnow and wanna throw a bit of money at the game, but I'm hesitant cause of the current state of the game

[neat valley]

If I were you , I would only spend money on a new character , not a remake @serene void

[serene void]

oh I do that anyway lol. But with Ikora being free I don't feel a need other than to maybe get her A1/T1/whatever. Mostly thinking about the bp and 30 day currency offer

[exotic sinew]

Get the free units and save up everything for March, but usually 3 years for smaller games and this is half a year in

[neat valley]

yeah march is what you really want to save for

Or at least we are hoping

If netease delivers

But destiny is a title they can milk us for over 10 years , they already proved that ; so who knows the game might be around for a while

[serene void]

oh yeah that big update they are talking about lands early March, right? Ok cool. Thanks for the insight! Now I just gotta figure out if Truth is worth lol. I have the mats to get it to T2 if I buy the bp+ (those 40 bp coins will make the 3rd Truth, leaving just one more for T3 I think?)

[neat valley]

and you’ll probably need to buy the rest of the tokens from the black market to get the last copy @serene void

for truth

[serene void]

yep, kinda what I was thinking. Wish I was around for Drill cause that one looks like it's better for general use and more toons

[neat valley]

You can still buy the copies it’s just you need a lot of black market coins

to exchange for battle pass token things

[bitter estuary]

real

soon there will be exploits with balls involved

[neat valley]

At this point , anything’s possible

[keen cave]

You envy that people are getting 2x mythics and you’re not?)))

Poor soul)

[void pivot]

How to get dvergar drill for icora

[bitter estuary]

the bp token shop

[void pivot]

Ikora

[elder wing]

💳

[cobalt beacon]

Hes a fraud

[void pivot]

Only BP token shop

[bitter estuary]

every single comp player i've seen is doing battlepass premium+monthly

[keen cave]

Yeah this game requires damn lot of money to stay competitive

[bitter estuary]

in instances where bp weapon sucks you can save the bp token for the next act

[void pivot]

Nice to have money to spend on games

[keen cave]

Like 8-9k usd to this point from the start

[thorny frost]

15 dollars is a lot?

How do you even spend that much

[bitter estuary]

me having 150 pulls now because i want a hh rerun

[thorny frost]

There hasn’t been enough units to blow that much on XD

[cobalt beacon]

Realesr thing i heard all day

[keen cave]

All t6. All patrons, all bundles, every pandora etc

[void pivot]

For u it's dollars for me it's zar

[bitter estuary]

i've got all 4* to t6 atp i will get free pulls consistently

[thorny frost]

15-20 dollars a month keeps things fairly well.

[keen cave]

45 usd a month without spending for characters

[bitter estuary]

it's cheaper than pgr/hi3rd though but yeah otherwise you can't do crap if you dont have both

[void pivot]

Who can sponsor me

[keen cave]

Bp+, all pandoras, tree of light

[bitter estuary]

bp+, tree of light, pandora's deal yeah

i think it's more like 27~32 bucks per month

unless you really want to suffer doing deathsingers nowadays

[keen cave]

Deathsingers are fun:)

[bitter estuary]

finding a random duo that is willing to do 50 matches w/ you is really the crap

[thorny frost]

Tree of light is spending on characters basically… 300 silver and 2700 lumia leaves. Pandoras deal is just extra pinnacle for whales as you get the 180 silver also with pinnacle….. but serioisly 8-9k to keep competative claim is just baiting lol.

[keen cave]

Without t6 you can do nothing

[bitter estuary]

atleast the expanse is actually consistent and is actually a decent endgame

[keen cave]

Now you can be in top10, because most of strong players left

[bitter estuary]

calops is wack imo

[bitter estuary]

inb4 top50 is still mostly t6 characters

i rather save up atp

hoping we get reruns soon

[thorny frost]

A T6 is like 700 dollars (average) buying purely silver… first T6 is probably 100-200 high end with bundles. And this isn’t including all the free lumia you would have gotten sense launch (basically another T6 at this point). With 10 5* 5 of which will be permanent there has been no reason to spend that much.

[bitter estuary]

by the time it happens ill prolly have 200 pulls but i dont think thats enough

[bitter estuary]

it's like far cheaper than 99% of gahcas in the market

it's just that the game relies heavily on co-op which people hate

ironic right? a lot of gacha gamers yearn for co-op experiences but when they get the thing they wanted, no one plays it

[thorny frost]

It definitely is, anyone who spent 8-9 k would literally be buying everything possible they could to support the game…. Even stuff they don’t really need

[thorny frost]

Yea >.> I find myself only queing for coop a few times a week even.

4 of which is due to Tower Defense

[bitter estuary]

i wanna be so fr rn the 4* rates are really high to the point you can get more than 12 of your pulls back if you pull 60 times

assuming you have all 4* characters to t6 that is

[thorny frost]

I know other games do similar but pulling a dupe and getting refunded a pull feels really nice when pity is so low.

[bitter estuary]

true

[keen cave]

Yeah, it really is a cheap one)

And if you use 2x mythic glitch it’ll be cheaper

[stiff breach]

What substats do I want for the mods on 4 horned ram

[indigo solar]

95% chance of getting t6 in 355 draws or less, average of 40 4* characters in that amount of draws, assuming you're a whale and have all of your 4* t6 already that's 40 free draws, 5 more from dust shop means 45 free draws. 310 draws costs 55,800 silver, 6300 silver for BRL$500 means BRL$4,500 = USD$863 to max a t6 95% of the time if you don't engage with the game at all besides logging in once a month to max a char

[keen cave]

#1391469379853619282

[indigo solar]

This is literally worst-case

[twilit thistle]

👀

[neat valley]

Yeah expanse is way more fun than calamity

[indigo solar]

Besides the fact that your guide has slightly incorrect artifacts, it also doesn't answer their question

[twilit thistle]

Unless you abuse the games loot algorithms, in a way that does not break TOS.

[stiff breach]

Literally has no answer to my question i just looked

[bitter estuary]

vorpal cluster

[keen cave]

There’s a mods screenshot with substats

[indigo solar]

Midrange/velocity (unless you want a fallen or cabal mod for specific activities)
Hit damage/handling
boss damage/blast radius

[keen cave]

Ok i didn’t paste it

[stiff breach]

Thank you thats the substats I needed

[indigo solar]

Note that velocity, hit damage, and handling aren't super important

Just the best if you've got them

[thorny frost]

I think this isn’t including the 8 pulls you get back from pulling the 6 dupes needed to T6 the unit.

[stiff breach]

I got the boss and blast radius just double checking

[indigo solar]

Oh true

[keen cave]

Mods substats is such a min maxing )

[indigo solar]

Yeah for most guns all that's important is rate of fire and boss or base damage

[stiff breach]

Well when clusterbombs doesnt have an exotic mod yet to give us those sweet tracking ability

[indigo solar]

The rest are very marginal gains

[bitter estuary]

base for primary boss for heavy really

and yeah rate of fire

i'm just dismantling crappy mods that aren't rate of fire

also reload speed to a certain extent

[indigo solar]

Reload can be good on the right guns, I wouldn't dismantle

Keep it on precision and blast mods for sure

[bitter estuary]

i only have reload and rate of fire mods only

because i need the mobius clusters lmao

[indigo solar]

I finally spent pinnacle on onslaught today

Haven't done that since eclipse lmao

But needed exotic upgrade mats

[bitter estuary]

i don't even do onslaught anymore

😭

[indigo solar]

Same

[bitter estuary]

i have all the guns to cat band 2

why would i need to do it

[indigo solar]

?

Onslaught is the level 80 mats

Not the cata mats

[twilit thistle]

Privileged. I had them maxed without pinnacle.

[bitter estuary]

ascension cell? i already got 500 of those

[indigo solar]

Not all of us get a ton of cells from the battle pass every month

[bitter estuary]

i'd only do onslaught IF they had exotic mods

[bitter estuary]

i think it's just a you issue here

well unless it's the average gamer who just plays it occasionally then yes i agree

[bitter estuary]

you really only need 22 per exotic

[thorny frost]

If you don’t iron commander, which I don’t believe they do. There aren’t a ton of sources we would normally use pinnacle on for them. Main place I am seeing is Bulworks weekly (and that is only due to the Occulant essences).

[bitter estuary]

330 total for all exotics (but that being said you can get level 80 exotics easily via crota's end)

[bitter estuary]

me too

[thorny frost]

I am lazy and do iron commander so I have a bit. Not the most optimal use of my pinnacle I know

[bitter estuary]

i'd only use pinnacle for

• legendary campaign
• bulwark weekly
• crota weekly
• shifting gates (mats)

that's it

maybe chaos but that's such a snoozefest

[candid tusk]

if you actually do end game activities then 99.9999% of your pinnacle goes towards chaos for artifactual essence

[stiff breach]

Don't use on chaos?

[candid tusk]

if you don't care about end game then it doesn't matter

[stiff breach]

Kinda want to max my jarens artifacts

[thorny frost]

I had to double check what was in the crota weekly, guaranteed mod is nice yea

[bitter estuary]

i feel like people yap about chaos a lot but im doing legendary campaign solely so i can catch up with the newest meta weapon

[stiff breach]

I need shards so I can get the first band for the drill

[bitter estuary]

that being said my fruit stash is still insanely plentiful despite already gilding out all the character artifacts LMAO

[candid tusk]

what are you using the newest "meta weapon" on

[bitter estuary]

arbalest :3 and then it went away so i have to funnel it there

[candid tusk]

no i mean, what are you using the weapon to do

what content

[bitter estuary]

calamari ops

[candid tusk]

if you aren't whaling then you should probably just skip a character every rotation and go full hoard

[bitter estuary]

expanse idrc i can run double mythic and it'd work

[candid tusk]

boost one, skip one, boost one, skip one

[bitter estuary]

that being said i'm more of a collector (idc about seals too much time needed) that's it

[candid tusk]

well then it doesn't matter at all then. you don't need a meta anything

but if you're actually pushing cal ops, your pinnacle would be going towards chaos 99.99999% of the time all the time

and you'd be hoarding infusion cores passively

and saving black market currency for photons and weapon tokens

[twilit thistle]

👀 A collector of what

[bitter estuary]

balls

[bitter estuary]

i used to but now i'd rather just put it somewhere else, better to stay in the game and not malding too much all the time

[oblique helm]

Dead chat 🥸

[neat valley]

Not just the chat

[candid tusk]

we def need new content badly but ikora is an absolute banger of a character

and everyone knows i'm a hater

[hushed crane]

Hello 👋

[bitter estuary]

new content and its helhest ops again

i need a rerun so bad

[twilit thistle]

5 star umeko*

[bitter estuary]

drone follows her as she goes 🔥

5 star umeko with more hair (obv a bow main to piss off ppl)

😂

[candid tusk]

we need a new sword user

[bitter estuary]

til it's a fusion rifle+machine gun user

god i missed when the game peaked during apple keynote, because there was genuinely ppl who are interested

me when there's 0 content for casuals to chew on

cny and it's just frontlines

[oblique helm]

Chat after I completed the campaign what should I focus on?

[oblique helm]

We need Sentinel wolf as an actual character

[stark forge]

on building the newest char

[bitter estuary]

build ikora H

[oblique helm]

Makes sense

Anything about the acclaim?

[twilit thistle]

auto rifle sniper rifle. BP hardlight. Ability reloads weapons and increases fire rate. Kills have a chance to generate more heavy.

Bc. Why not

[candid tusk]

the only acclaim that matters is the extra light link companion tbh

[stark forge]

just farm enough to boost all activities drop rate is fine

[oblique helm]

Do you get enough medals to get all the boosts?

[candid tusk]

yes more than enough. but those boosts are complete trash, like a fraction of a %

[stark forge]

any percent helps but yeah its trash

[candid tusk]

yeah but it's not something to chase as a new player. just get the light link companion one when you can and eventually get the others

[oblique helm]

I mean the double legendary campaign boost is not trash

[candid tusk]

it is def trash

it requires you to spend an item and double pinnacle, it doesn't give you double rewards

i never use it ever

[stark forge]

thats like the last thing u wanna upgrade lol

[hidden carbon]

Oh yeah idk how the game is dying so much and being so poorly marketed when it even landed in an apple keynote for the iPhone launch

[candid tusk]

marketing isnt the issue, gameplay is

[oblique helm]

Damn

[stark forge]

pinnacle system def killed this game in the start

[candid tusk]

def not the issue

[oblique helm]

The light linked companion adds buffs to your character, this character gets the buff anytime or only when the companion is on the team?

[dusty spire]

🍿

[candid tusk]

it's a static buff to that character all the time

[oblique helm]

perfect

[bitter estuary]

ngl keynote pulled in a lot of users in september lol

its also the reason why estela sold so well

after that 0 marketing

[neat valley]

It made people lose interest instantly, especially people who don’t play gacha , then others stayed because it’s destiny

[candid tusk]

but the actual players who did stick around lost interest because the end game loop hasn't been improved due to the failures of bulwark and cordon

[stark forge]

i almost quit bc of the energy system

[neat valley]

I accepted it because I haven’t played Destiny since #1 and this was the hit I needed, pinnacle doesn’t bother me

but not a lot can agree

[dusty spire]

I’m ok with progress over time model, and understand this is early days

Live services

How dare you take your time

[neat valley]

I mean progress over time is fine , but you have to make it worth people’s time otherwise it doesn’t work

[candid tusk]

i do think the artifactual essence grind, perfect rolls on artifacts is a little too harsh but other than that yeah

i wish mobius clusters were awarded more in events

[dusty spire]

I get it, depends on the party your selling that model too

Has it been on console and pc port

Then I’d get the aggression to progress the live service faster

[neat valley]

I’m just tired of the what ifs , we all know there’s so much potential, by December I hope this is all just a bad dream

[dusty spire]

Unfortunately we already had the first rocket ship

[thorny frost]

I prefer pinnacle then long term low rate grind. I don’t want to run something like legendary for a .25% chance at a photon.

[dusty spire]

Next one would be if we get the console port pc port

Otherwise no more rockets

[neat valley]

Just give me a baby rocket

[bitter estuary]

its because its a gacha game

[dusty spire]

Not sure how ever else they can get that reaction again

[neat valley]

🚀

[dusty spire]

Rockets 1 but 2x that’s hard

[bitter estuary]

also not to mention ppl rather play genshin impact/wuwa/any big gacha game bc they can play it with friends (since most ppl have it)

[neat valley]

if the start of the game was the peak , and it slows down from now on that’s fine , I had fun while it lasted

[dusty spire]

That game got the benifit of being released during a global lockdown

[neat valley]

Yeah the lockdown , boomed every game like crazy

More than ever

[thorny frost]

Genshin multiplayer sucked when I played it >.> large part of why I left, everything I do felt more worthless then it does in multiplayer. At least I can help someone here in CalOps.

[bitter estuary]

wuwa didn't but still do well

that being said the formula has been copy+paste

wuwa is really genshin but slightly better, same as arknights eosfield

[bitter estuary]

game is tuned for mobile players, even the hardest content is just spam buttons to trigger big damage, and thats it

[mossy holly]

Did they stop doing weekly maintenance?

[keen cave]

Yeah, because of EoS 😄

[naive ingot]

It's lunar new year. They ain't working

[mossy holly]

Oh shiii mb

[thorny frost]

Not disagreeing, although the mechanics in the game still gets messed up with instructions on the screen. The idea of me enhancing my unit actually allowing me to help others who might not be able to is a big part why I want to keep advancing. Games like Genshin where the multiplayer was basically just there made the games end game grind less enjoyable.

[pulsar coral]

Flagged for misinformation 🤠

[rotund flame]

No joke I actually got a strike for that on here last time we were joking about that lol 😂

[mossy holly]

Is it bad I'm only going for 👍🏽 perks?

[dusty spire]

🤣

[naive ingot]

Nope, that's normal 😂

[mossy holly]

Alr

[bitter estuary]

the only thing genshin offers is helping ppl do the bosses and thats really it

[earnest gust]

what are high value bulwark op rewards

[stark forge]

co-op normal weekly reward

[dusty spire]

2 more weapons to go then it’s chaos daily farms for fine tuning…into season 4

[cyan tide]

I'm tired of farming chaos, today I used my pinnacle on strikes just for a change of pace

[rotund flame]

Lol real, only thing to waste stamina in the end is chaos or legendary campaign

[cyan tide]

They need to add a way to get more essence, only getting enough for one upgrade per day doesn't feel rewarding

[candid tusk]

they could 5x the essence and i'd still be non-stop farming it endlessly but at least it would feel worth it

[cyan tide]

Reducing the time it takes to max out a character would actually give me an incentive to go for that instead of just leaving them at 74k

[candid tusk]

and i'd be able to actually level defense artifacts, and multiple artifact sets per character

[pulsar coral]

Feeels terrible

[oblique helm]

How do I open research crates for bulwark ops bro

I cant find them anywhere

[cyan tide]

Yep, maxing out artifacts just isn't very appealing. Especially if a better set releases that makes the previous piece irrelevant

[candid tusk]

at the bulwark queue menu

click on bulwark from activities

and they're in the middle of the screen

[oblique helm]

In the seasonal screen

I cant find anything

[candid tusk]

correct, yes, then click on bulwark

[cyan tide]

You need to select one of the endless modes, they don't show up in solo normal mode

[candid tusk]

ah yeah has to be endless mode

[oblique helm]

Oh yes got it

Im so dumb for not finding it

I thought this was the background

[candid tusk]

naw i couldn't even find it right away

[pulsar coral]

I’m level 30 😳

[flint aurora]

yeah... the mode is kinda a pain to grind ;-;
...least if you got a couple of hours to kill you can just spam it

[candid tusk]

the main strategy is to just do the lvl 15 endless solo and multiplayer and then you could do 3x weekly chests from multiplayer normal

[pulsar coral]

I honestly don’t enjoy it, running around picking up orbs and building towers isn’t fun for me

[candid tusk]

and yeah it's not fun but i'm trying to max all towers for the same reason i did shadowshaper and fishing, for the inevitable worsening of triumphs for seasonal seals

[bold thunder]

That's valid, tower defense isn't for everyone

[candid tusk]

tower defense as a game mode is fun, this just happens to be the worst tower defense of modern history

[bold thunder]

There's basically no reason to do it if you don't enjoy it though so just don't 🤷

[bold thunder]

Eh, as someone who generally enjoys most tower defenses, this one is maybe below average in my opinion but I definitely wouldn't call it the worst

[candid tusk]

personally, I've never played one as bad as this but I'm sure there are worse modes

[bitter estuary]

not really

[bold thunder]

The balancing issues are the biggest problem, the core of the mode is fairly interesting

Personal tastes I guess

[bitter estuary]

arknights endfield has the worse tower defense mode, as an example

[candid tusk]

I think this is not interesting or fun at all. They should have done something more like gears of war horde mode so that guns are actually useful and defense characters would have a home in this speedrace-centric game

and they need to start improving rewards, like if this game mode gave artifactual essence in basics, or mobius clusters, orrr either one of those in large bulk for pinnacle. i'd be in there all the time

[bold thunder]

I mean there's not much point in debating this tbh

You can debate balance and stuff, but you can't really debate something as subjective as "is this enjoyable"

[bold thunder]

Definitely agree about this though, the lack of rewards for a flagship gamemode is ridiculous

[candid tusk]

indeed. i would find it 'slightly' more interesting and that's pushing it, if there was a lot more maps, and if 3 players were in one area, and guns were useful forever, etc.

and if mobs actually attacked you

[cyan tide]

The towers are getting reset next season so you'll have to get them again

[pulsar coral]

I’ve missed several weeks of rewards. I feel like if the ads actually attacked us it would be more fun

[candid tusk]

oh god, whelp thank you sir. i shall never login to bulwark again

[cyan tide]

Yep, I stopped playing after reaching level 100 as well

[bold thunder]

I personally like the more relaxed feel of them not attacking, but I could see going the OMD route being more appealing to more people

[short locust]

100? Try like 20

[pulsar coral]

OMD?

[cyan tide]

I wanted the title, and it's not hard to reach the weekly cap

[candid tusk]

even though stevelion obviously likes the game mode, you have to admit the utter failure of this game mode. 99.9% of people absolutely hate it

[neat valley]

This is the worst tower defense I ever played, and that’s all I played as a kid, hundreds of tower defense , and every single one had different enemies and not the same ones every single time

[pulsar coral]

💀

[short locust]

Nothing in this game is hard, just tedious

[neat valley]

This game isnt hard at all

It’s for casual players

[candid tusk]

yep. honestly anyone saying otherwise has actively searched for the worst tower defense mode in history or is coping

i mean hitting the max possible scores for cal ops overseer is hard, hitting rank 1 in new raid races is hard

[twilit thistle]

I will quit the game next season if they follow thru on that.

[bold thunder]

I mean I have >100 hours of bulwark, so your logic is suspect as usual

[candid tusk]

ok, what's the worst tower defense game you've played so i can youtube it

and if it has more than 5 enemies and more than 1 map, it's probably better

[twilit thistle]

The most recent BTD

[bold thunder]

Probably something from armorgames or new grounds or something when I was a kid

[bold thunder]

Actually yeah btd6 is pretty bad impo

But definitely not the worst I've played

There was some td game of AG called gem something, can't remember the exact name

Pretty good for its time but had like 2 total enemies and no meta progression or synergies or anything

Idk I've played a lot of questionable games over the years

[candid tusk]

there's 0 chance that btd is worse than this game mode, like that's absolute crazy talk

[sand salmon]

Bloons tower defence was peak

[candid tusk]

copium for sure

[neat valley]

Btd has more content than this whole gsme

[candid tusk]

yeah that's the most wild take on the planet

[bold thunder]

Yeah no idk if btd6 is worse than this (though I definitely think it's the worst btd we've gotten)

[twilit thistle]

btd3

[sand salmon]

True

[candid tusk]

this tower defense mode has 5 enemies, 1 map, the same towers in the same locations every time pretty much due to how stone hoof covers all affixes, and you're going to be in the upper 95% of player clears

and your weapons do nothing, nothing to react to

[neat valley]

And same rotations

[candid tusk]

saying an actual tower defense game is worse than this mode is complete copium

[neat valley]

They could at least change the arena, why does it always have to be that vex stuff

[sand salmon]

Netease please make shifting how it was before

[bold thunder]

While I agree that the mode was a failure, that's wasn't the initial topic or the claim that you made

[candid tusk]

i said that this is the worst tower defense mode ever created in modern history, which is true

[bold thunder]

It was just what you pivoted into when I said there was no point in debating your first point

[candid tusk]

some people may enjoy it, but it's still the worst tower defense game in modern history, it's horrendous

[twilit thistle]

Would you rather play more cordon?

[neat valley]

I’d rather them make something worth playing

[candid tusk]

absolutely

[south cargo]

yeah the tower defence mode is actual slop

[candid tusk]

if they alternated cordon with cal ops, or forced character requirements on them with differents trikes in the cycle, and made the cordon affixes more interesting it would also be better than cal ops

[neat valley]

Ai slop most likely

[twilit thistle]

Joke is that neither were finished. You can see how much progress they made

[south cargo]

yay lets build the tower and watch the tower shoot the bad guys aha

[twilit thistle]

Its pretty good for the skeleton crew they have working on the game rn.

[neat valley]

please don’t defend it @twilit thistle 😂, this stuff should not be allowed to be made this poorly

we as players deserve better

[cobalt marten]

Hey, I have a question. Will promotional characters like Jaren return, or are they only for this season?

[neat valley]

We really don’t know

[cyan tide]

Yes, they will return but we don't know when

[neat valley]

They never confirmed if characters will ever come back

we just hope they will

[twilit thistle]

Imagine what it could have been, if they actually had a real dev team ||from the beginning||

[cobalt marten]

Thank you for clearing up my doubt; I had been asking for a while but no one answered me on other sites🐱

[twilit thistle]

Game is unplayable rn. This is a Q simulator.

[restive finch]

I just dismantled like 100+ bad artifacts because I needed a "Heap of Artifactual Dust" thinking I'd make a nice nest egg, but instead I got tons of "Piles of Artifactual Dust," which I absolutely didn't want to do. Now that I wanted to reroll a couple of artifacts, I can't because this game has decided to do what it wants...

PS: If you dismantle them INDIVIDUALLY, one by one, you get 3 pieces per artifact of the purple one, which is what I need. 🥲

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar ^

[neat valley]

I mean it’s okay to love it , I just think we deserve better

[indigo solar]

Yep

Technically actually cheaper to do it that way

Since upgrading with smaller units costs less glimmer than upgrading with the larger units

[twilit thistle]

✅

[cyan tide]

I still find that weird btw, it should be the other way

[rotund flame]

It was decent when it first released, then they decided to buff the enemies hp while nerfing stone hoof and not buffing any other tower

[bold thunder]

I don't personally agree that it was better on release, given all it took to afk to the max wave was to build 14 of the same tower

But to each their own, especially for people who only care about the rewards I can see that patch being annoying

[rotund flame]

I liked it because you could use non meta towers and do just fine, but now it feels like throwing because the other exotic towers are kinda bad lol

[cyan tide]

Yeah, the hp buff felt warranted. The problem is that they didn't buff underpowered towers so there's only like 5 viable towers now

[bold thunder]

That's fair, there isn't much variety now

[rotund flame]

Kinda funny how i quit arknights and now I'm playing another tower defense game lol

[twilit thistle]

It wouldnt be DR if it had variety.

[neat valley]

lol

Yeah variety ❌

[rotund flame]

Watch next season be a new mode a copy of a strike we already have like the pit again 🗿

[neat valley]

Watch it be the same maps but just moved around

And different enemy spots

[bitter estuary]

endfield or arknights

endfield is just not fun

[twilit thistle]

Reason i have so much fun in chaos/expanse (first run)/morgrans/sg. Its not predictable enough to be the exact same every single time. Bulwark is a daily modifier change, and I play it more bc of it.

[rotund flame]

OG arknights. Didn't like endfield, felt like it wanted to be like gesnshin but gave up halfway lol

[bitter estuary]

arknights was fun but yostar is very directionless

they made new permanent content again after 3 years i'm crine

[rotund flame]

Yeah got sick of them releasing so many limited units per year. They promised like 2 but then pushed it up to like 4 lol

[bitter estuary]

atleast game has mechanics

eosfield could never

[neat valley]

Bruh yall complaining about too much ?

I wish we had a overflow of characters in this game

[rotund flame]

Definitely, loved the stage mechanics and characters fun kits they would make

[stiff breach]

Endfield is so boring lol

[bitter estuary]

no because the mobile game scene is either something unique but it died due to lack of content or genshin impact

[stiff breach]

Wuwa > genshin lol

[rotund flame]

However arknights did have a huge power creep problem. I swear the new unit would always be so op and do a billion damage while being able to solo a stage , they had to add mechanics just so you wouldn't use W alter at one point lol

[stiff breach]

Im surprised tower of fantasy is still running

[bitter estuary]

hotta still has investors

they're making nte anyways

apparently game has no single use mechanics that only is used for said mode

[rotund flame]

What happened to that one new gatcha like a GTA game that was releasing? Didn't it have a demo out?

[cyan tide]

Ananta?

[bitter estuary]

ananta had a tgs booth and demo

made by netease

[rotund flame]

Forgot the name, but that sounds like it i think

Wait looking up I think it was nte

[neat valley]

I just want a zombie gacha game , do those exist?

[cyan tide]

I don't think there's any with zombies as a central theme
Maybe GGZ?

[indigo solar]

Destiny: Rising

We are dead things made by a dead power in the shape of the dead

[neat valley]

Hmm now that you say that

Maybe that’s why I like it so much

[twilit thistle]

Taniks: Rising

[indigo solar]

Tbh if he does return in this game he should be called Taniks, the Risen

[bitter estuary]

balls: balls

[thick finch]

How much worse is bellowing than truth?

[cyan tide]

Isn't it better? Truth isn't that good apparently, though I usually see people recommending four horned for Ikora H

[rotund flame]

Four horned ram is better because the cluster bomb perk builds stacks quickly for your passive

[thick finch]

seems like a bug that it does it that way

but does look pretty crazy

[rotund flame]

Yup, hope they don't care enough to patch it 😭

[hidden carbon]

Yeah i can see it getting patched out in the future, they patched old prefect for jaren

[neat valley]

I love him

I wish he was still good like the start of the game

When everyone play tan

[thorny frost]

I hope he shows up in future stories still

And maybe he will get a gun to help him shine in the future

But I also like wolf’s reaction in the video. About to correct him then just shrug

[twilit thistle]

||Balls: Uwu||

[thorny frost]

“Well we are the zombies”

[neat valley]

Lmao , wolf is way too nice

[twilit thistle]

[celest robin]

When we getting more acclaim bonuses to unlock?

They say anything about that?

[bold thunder]

Nope

If we're ever going to get them, probably s4

[cyan tide]

I don't think we will
I'd rather they rework the current bonuses to double the drop chance for mods and artifacts

[twilit thistle]

Id rather have more players, at any cost.

[dusk hemlock]

No

[opaque granite]

Hey all

[dusk hemlock]

Itd make my queue times quicker thats for sure

[delicate mango]

Sup y'all what are we talking about

[twilit thistle]

@bold thunder

[bold thunder]

Damn nice!!

[uneven zinc]

[sinful totem]

Fire

[neat valley]

Bros aura farming

[twilit thistle]

Thinking about using muqam to see if I can get enough currency to get only hoof going. I did only ane. It would be unfair to leave hoof untested 😂