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Check his newset post
This doesnāt say he is quitting just slowing down uploads.
when a YTBer says this
How did you get "I'm quitting Destiny: Rising" from that post?
Ppl always believe what they want to believe
to both u guys and me 
In the end it will be up for him, but it is best not to put words into his mouth. He has ran a CalOps literally 2 hours after this post.
Anyway I just spend every thing I saved up got T4 ikora
150 pulls T4 not bad
Gonna play a bit longer maybe
I am deciding how far I want to push her, she has been fun so far. But going to permanent banner later means I will get it at some point
How many normal pulls u got last month
Each month we get about 10 or so pulls I believe. I also have a 180 choice already saved up too.
And I still donāt think this game will last long enuf till I can get ikora from normal pulls
Since the revenue drops so fast
They got put off this game in no time
So I just enjoy what I can get
Hard to say, I honestly am surprised it didnāt drop more for Janurary. They literally didnāt release anything to spend on for that month, and all the whales who wanted Kabr would have probably spent in December. If it does go under tho before I max Ikora I will still enjoy playing with her till then.
Yeah just enjoy the game thatās it
What
You get 40 a month
Ish
Before events
Oh wait normal pulls
Yeah those are pretty slow, assuming you're spending Lumia/shards on limited pulls
40 = go up the ramp. (ramp starts on the back right)
Yea just normal pulls, I figured the 5 each month, and 4 from Morganās, although that is every 1.5 now maybe?
currently still testing but in ikoras anahhilation state, four horned with vorpal and cluster is slightly below 2 catalyst truth by a little, despite being 1k power below truth and neither perk having an exotic upgrade. so dont overinvest into it if you have twin tailed fully maxxed, altho, ttf isnt good and yyou shouldnt invest into it either imo
So truth is not worthy 
Thatās good to hear cuz Iām not planing to buy battle pass from now on
yeah, being in anihilation state is where her damage will come from and truth doesnt scale that much higher from 1st catalyst to 2nd where its supposed to get 30% more blast damage from consecutive hits. i tested before and after and its not much difference
Note that this 100% breaks the ai of the boss. and that you can use the lgl to bring it down (heavy is optional)
So Dvergar Drill and Four horned is her best combo?
Does ttf not build stacks 3x as fast
How about any legendary rocket launcher?any good ?
Mythic weapons already have a massive inherent damage boost over legendary, even before counting power and mythic perks
Legendary weapons are pretty much never worth using
i dont have any good rolls to test on legendary launchers atm
Only exception is PvP
no, it fires too slow, even in her buff state
Bulwark RL not good?
maybe, i still need to test
No I mean doesn't it give 9 stacks per shot
Fraternity and Polyploidy ..
While normal rockets give 3
yeah its good but less damage than vorpal and cluster on ram
Best artifacts?
HON2 for area control or bellowing for bosses
Slot 3 and 4
what about truth
im using rampaging on 3rd and her new artifact 4th slot. idk what builds others are using
Cluster is the worst right column mythic on ram
I use new one on slot 3 and AoE Dmg increase on slot 4
New artifact on slot 4 seems to be best in slot for Jaren
Eager is better as long as 2 or more cluster bombs miss, and poly is just insanely good
cluster does more damage per shot without an exotic upgrade than poly, its just the rng of the 8 clusters being incosistent. on a big boss, most clusters always hit
Eager does +64%, poly does +100%
Consistency is important
you can go try it, vorpal and cluster vs any other combo you want and see which does more damage
true, its why it sucks they havent added clusters exotic perk which gives its clusters tracking
Very true
@last warren howās ttf on her?
it does less damage than mythics but mine is only at 2nd catalyst, like the truth. but truth outdamages it by a good 35%
which mythic
Dang. I mentioned it earlier. Iām going to use her on my alt account and I donāt have the drill on that one.
I think drill with mythic launcher is better.
ram and bellowing do more damage in her annihilation state
š okay yeah I understand now, as usual it's NetEase jank
The clusters get the +40% from vorpal individually
So they do 48% of rocket damage each
That's actually insane
its ok, sorry if it came off rude, but yeah each cluster seems to scale off vorpal independently
Yeah they should be doing 1.4 * 0.08 but instead they're doing 1.4 + 0.08
š Jank Rising
which mythic four houlrned ?
whats the best perks for four horned and bellowing again?
i think i have like a stockpile of exotics i can use
and try max out
Four-horned is vorpal/cluster, bellowing is fraternity/poly
Unless i am missing context, i can guarantee this does not meet the standards of @indigo solar
did the bad mode rewards go out
not yet. they're thinking monday
rgr
Was just about to crash out over the rng today.
What are ikoraās best artifacts if anyone doesnāt mind telling me I would appreciate it.
So I just tested stack gathering with cluster, and it looks like each of the clusters also generate stacks. That cluster shot is going to be OP on her if it ever gets the mod.
Unre shell/siphon blazer/sumoning pact/belecose blazer
Thank you so much.
isnt ikora like broken and super fun?
They also being heck of lazy, how hard is it to add tracking to clustors already
Been waiting since Maru
I expect it's just there bc when they do add gjally, it's going to have cluster as its right column perk, and the catalyst will upgrade it to enhanced
Similar to old huckleberry, partridge, and I think there was a third that did it like that
I believe they swapped that out with individual perks though
I only play Ikora so canāt be sure
@indigo solar while ur here, is hawkeye or bellicose plantesimal better for hh. Or is it just prefrence? I always see a bunch of diffrent artifacts on HH's. From those 2, to confined axion.
Bellicose for activities where you can't guarantee distance, Hawkeye if you can stay back, confined for boss dps
So many of their artifacts are completely useless now or so oddly specific that it makes build crafting near impossible
What rocket launcher is good for the new ikora??
I did in 30 pulls
Or they just bought it with luminary
Nice š congrats
I pulled with lumia leaves
I managed to get 2 in 40 pulls
Lucky
@indigo solar with all the conversations that have happened still thinking Shell/Rift/Spiral/Blazar?
I have 7k lumina but I will save it up for the rerun on Estella in future
Truth or the other void rocket
I would like higher for that aoe passive
If they could re-run her
Definitely pact for slot 3, I want to test pact on slot 2 when I get it but other than that yeah
I just realized new Ikora skills doesn't count as mobility skill? Like bruh
Four-horned for boss damage, hon2 for crowd control
anyone else having insane frame drops since the update?
So howās the new ikora
So is just basic ikora with new outfit
Pack on 2 doesnāt matter too much
She a beast?
F. I guess that means 1 billion stages of chaos to pray I one day get a 3/4 artifact. Every time I get one exotic, i have to tear down one exotic to get it outa my mail. That part is whats getting to me, i could burn like 3,000 pinnacle, but at what cost lmao
Doesn't have the tag but still procs mobility effects to my knowledge
Also I'm glad that new Kabr is in standard rn, just that standard banner is still bad you can't select the one you like to pull.
If you run lasting impression, the gravity sucks enemies in before it explodes, so you could get a ton of kills per shot
Lasting is a pretty big damage sacrifice unless you want to run an ability set
I'm running Lassi and Queenbreaker on Kabr, I love it
Attal
Siphoning is too good to turndown as opposed to heal/dmr builds
Especially with Maru sub skill
I have max Attal, should I pick her with Tan 2?
I mean Maru is locked on everyone, and Ning/estela are better for arc/solar damage, so it's only really useful on Maru rn
I'm running Attal + Jaren as link for my HH
Yeah ruins boss damage but for bosses you won't even be using hon2, and it's insanely good for ad clear
I don't have Jaren:((
120 blast radius means the pull is massive
I just mean to buff my Ikora damage in general
Two characters I don't want to meet in Shifting Gates: Maru and Ning Fei š„
Ning Fei is just Speed
Wait actually lasting is better than most right column perks on hon2
Maru can shield spam in Shifting Gates make her a pseudo tanky/assault character. Once her ult is ready, she can basically 1v3 š„
Just wait until you see a good attal
They can two tap you at up to 50m
Yeah, ensured yields aināt too bad, but the mod upgrade is wasted on her and ablation ruins her black hole
Meh, I already fought one. Still she can't beat the shield spam I did on Maru
Yeah but like lasting literally has almost as much damage boost as full stack splash feast, and more damage than non-lethal ensured yields
It has +50%
Maru's real weakness is CQB so basically just Ning Fei š„
Which is wild for a blue perk
Doesn't sound like you fought a good one
Only takes 3-4 shots to break your shield and kill you
Lasting also gains stacks on impact if hitting an enemy and explosions. Most rockets only get it once.
No, even if you can 2 tap with Attal, you can spam your shield skill for Maru. It refreshes. Attal has zero crowd control skill either, you're done once Maru has her ult ready, entire team dead
It refreshes but as of s2a2, it doesn't fully block damage anymore. If a shot breaks the shield, it does the remaining damage to you
Also you only get two supers max per match
And attal has blinding
What perks on the ram??
Vorpal/Cluster
Can we assume we wonāt have a new character for S4 as is not mentioned in the roadmap??
No
No what?
No, we can't assume we won't have a new character for S4
So roadmap isnāt correct. I guess
Nor can we assume we will have a new character for S4
Roadmap is incomplete
We might have reruns. But as is not mentioned about any characters as usually does.
Its not s4. Stop playing with the presents underneath the Christmas tree, and patiently wait like the rest of us.
Someone pointed out a while ago that they might of ran out of space on the road map. They donāt have battle pass on it either and I doubt they would skip that.
So S4 are filled with reruns and no new char till S5 ?
We have no idea on that yet
Clearly S4 is the Halo collab
Completely healthy rng mechanics @thorny frost. I had to pull 50 times smh.
Took me 57 pulls to get my first one XD
ANYTHING but gjallarhorn š š
Thanks for putting lots of work testing things today. Based on your findings is drill+four horned gonna be better than Fleet+fully maxed truth? Or will it be close enough to just play what you like
The last 4 banners my luck had been abysmal Iāve gotten them at 60 pulls each š itās all good
ye, while I dont know what exactly triggers that, I did all of the things I normally do. One of them is doin that.
š¤ actually i think i know exactly what did that.
That T6 laser is fun š
its the year 2167. life has all but gone extinct. humanity barely survives in small camps throughout the system. oxygen has become a luxury. also, xuan wei just got a mythic
I have not been able to put any tests into truth yet, but from watching everyone tests it is looking like four horned is going to be the best for boss dps, so I am assuming most will try to use the drill for primary. HON2 is going to be an interesting sleeper pick for anyone wanting to play heavy add control.
I knew I should have waited before I spent bp tokens, but thatās okay live and learn
So Drill is better than TTF and Truth, even with the mag size from Truth?
Some tests probably still need to be done as it is still first day. Truth sounds like it was out damaging slightly but with the clusters also gaining stacks Horn should increase the amount of time you are in the special state. If it ever gets tracking it could be stupid.
Yeah the way the clusters work with vorpal too sounds cracked
What's the Talent breakpoint on Ikora anyway?
UGH 60 pulls to get t2? smh. Rng is being brutal today.

so am i just screwed if i didnt get dvargar drill
there is no mythic void light gl š

I know what they are, just not sure where most are stopping. I have her T3 rn in under 100 pulls.
@thorny frost turns out blast radius is actually capped at 100 now, so if you have the blast radius mod, lasting impression is redundant
O my bad, was figuring you just couldnāt get in. Not sure where everyone is stopping yet
pretty much sadly
No worries, thanks for the info at least :)
Just not trying to waste resources rn so I'm trying to figure out Talents and weapon setups
O that is sad. Thank you for checking that. I did have blast radius on my weapon (only + 15), that seems to imply that the last 2 enemies are only 5 meters from the far enemy for the test I did for splash feast? Hmmm
Splash feast still works to improve radius tho
Blast radius isn't in meters
Not quite sure how it's measured
Source
My brain just inserted a form of measurement not sure why
need dmg for the expanse this time. that side was absolutely brutal.
gg
if it makes you feel any better i forgot to collect my last one on the battle pass so im out here slaving away saving up tokens for it lol
it's 60 tokens and I only get 30 from the battle pass

so I'd have to spend over 150K on tokens alone at wu ming
Dw, void wave frame coming out in s4
surely!
oh neat
what's S4 even gonna be about isn't that when the threats from beyond thing is supposed to happen
or was that trailer literally only for another calamity
Threats from beyond is a little bit Crota, a little bit s4, and a little bit s6
i see
i hope S4 at least has new characters and story quests bc we actually got nothing this season š
I mean well we got like the new activities but i mean in terms of story
I mean, we got Ada lore and hints of Europa
that would be a cool place to go to
since they're not following the main story pretty much at all atp
Also direct acknowledgement that we'll likely soon go beyond earth
or the canon one rather
Not in s4 tho
S4 is still focused around the RSR and the Ahamkara hidden there
oh yeah I saw that much, assumed that would be the case when they dropped the trailer tho bc it seemed like they were hinting towards the moon as a new destination
first exotic character estela
they need to add a way to draw the past 4 characters tho
none of S1 or S2's characters are in rising lights
Europa joltuun?
Iām not good with destiny lore but aināt that weapon from that region or something?
So it is looking like Splash Feast is the crowd control roll then. Sadly to maintain the radius buff you need to keep getting direct hits.
You need direct hits anyways for slot 3 shell for maximum radius
Splash feast doesn't have a timer tho
Fair, I was to focused on the concept you gave with lasting. Still love the concept, wish it wasnāt capped lol.
I am definitely going to be working on a crowd control build for her, this is just to fun and amusing to not.
I could see lasting still potentially having a use in iron bar tho.
ikora mad fun. hit promo zone in calamity
Is t2 the stopping point if you don't want to go all the way?
Nah can't one tap without a direct hit
And control effects are significantly weaker so probably won't even work to grab them well
Dang the grab effect is what I was thinking about. If it could pull people through door ways then detonate could be interesting.
I mean it may work but just from experience Rossi and Ikora1 grabs aren't very strong

She she looks like a high school principal
Lmaoo
āIām very disappointed in your performance today, guardian.ā
Hows that so accurate
Iām keeping the helmet on for sure
If anybody need the Blooming Collectibles location -> #š„äøØcreator-showcase - hf with the huge amount of materials š
A whopping 13% of one copy of a BP weapon, of which you need 3 to max a gun
Man people on the leader boards being useless, none of them have ikora up on the showcase so I can't even see the recommendations for her build. What perks do i want for her primary weapon?
Drill is probably better cause we don't have a void LGL again.
I recommend Four Horned Ram with Vorpal (don't have a decent 3rd column perk, haven't tested auto loading's interaction with Ikora's blink and Cluster Munitions, no mod yet for tracking)
yeah iām not putting ikora in my showcase sorry lol
I might put her instead of Maru lol
Yea, the consensus seems to be Drill plus FH Ram with Vorpal + Clusters since the clusters give stacks I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong :)
You aren't wrong. Her damage literally depends on Blast Radius XD and having Blast Radius on your ammo does wonders

Also IV, Bellicose Blazer is where its at
Increase AoE Damage
Drill/four horned(vorpal/cluster) for damage, drill/hon2(annihilation/splash feast) for crowd control
Truth is fun with new Ikora. Wish C3 felt more impactful. Couldāve just made C2 50% additional dmg and C3 have it 2 smaller rockets shoot with it
Streaming in my channel if anyone is bored and wants to chat š
Not only bc clusters give stacks, but also bc they do insane damage, way higher than description would lead you to believe
I like drill/HON for dmg since the first perk is much better and four for AoE save you can spam it more
Yea for artifacts, I'm thinking Ring of Abundance, Siphoning Blazar, not sure for 3rd, and Bellicose Blazar. Welcome to suggestions
Then fleet/truth is the fun setup
Use vorpal/cluster on four-horned, you'll do way more damage vs large enemies
I have that
Seems what everyone on the leader boards think as well, after looking at 20 people i just gave up lol
Can someone screen shot the recommended artefact sets for new ikora and post please
Ty in advance
If you know how to lol :/
But I found it to be less dmg overall, especially after a few calamity. In the fleet + truth felt better overall with her kit so Iāll level fleet up
Shell/rift, rift, pact, Blazar
Possibly Blazar slot 2 if they fixed it
I use Blazar/Blazar/Rift/Rift and itās mistranslated not broken imo
got ikora gold medal day 1, when is gwynn releasing?
Where are you aiming? If you hit feet so even 3 clusters hit you should be doing more
Pact? What counts as a summon? Also, what's broken about Blazar Slot 2?
I mean it does exactly what it says, heals based on base damage, but base damage is lv 1 +0 without mods, so ends up being significantly lower
I aim lower body, H0N just felt more impactful especially vs cabal and fallen because of the first perk. Four horn first perk is faster reload, just not that useful. Only benefit to me is an extra shot
Black hole from dash
From here, I aināt pulled her yet
rampaging pact? kinda hard to tell if it's proccing
I don't think you need Abundance or Siphoning.
Her first artifact gives you DR & Overshield when you cast blink, no need to be miles above the ground for it
Her second, gives you more Overshield per Overshield. It's so good it replaces Siphoning on Maru 
I get like 1/10 of a bar each shot with it. Itās pretty nice and keeps me up
Yes
Easy to tell it procs by running nourishing pact
Iāll try rift on second slot, because she does teleport a lot but I have a 4/4 blazar all around
My Maru is perfect
So itās hard to farm for a new set
Artifact farming makes me wanna not play new chartacters tbh
wow. the strats are legit
So y'all don't have left over exotic chests from previous Expanse?
All gold thumbs up on each Blazar for Maru, I just got lucky with this dropping earlier today in expanse
I have 7 leftover
Iāll wait for more results on her tailored before I farm for them. Until then, Ima max Truth/Fleet and HON/Four Horn
Had to use like 13 to get good pieces in slot 3 and 4, the nice thing is that she can share them with Maru
got ikora gold medal day 1, when is gwynn releasing?
We do have solid testing showing truth to be worse than mythic options
no one knows
I mean feel free to max it if you enjoy it, but just know it's not meta
Am I tripping, or is Ikora's new set just the Blazar set but better minus Bellicose?
Better for her yeah
That's usually how it goes
Depends, she could be really strong for expanse, where she can clear out a whole room in 2-3 shots
š„± Iām bored
And could be decent with calam
Did you have fun ?
Potential off-meta with Ikora + Xuan nuking everything
Yeah Maru will still be able to get a 7m clear easily and a 40 clear easily so shes not meta, calamity is all that really matters endgame wise š
Xuan Wei is literally the most fun character in the game, but useless
no, i want gwynn
To me sheās a unit for new players that missed Maru, sheās very fun too
Okay but if Ikora does it better than Maru she is still meta
And there's def potential for her in calam, early reports showing she does more damage than Maru
Still will use Truth and get overseer
Heresy
Do I need to get the screenshot
Idk what screenshot you're referring to
Hmm I wonder what those artifacts are
Yooo anyone trynna play catch in Jiangshi? It's the new endgame
I just really wanna see someone on Fulminator pull all of the ads right next to the boss and Xuan punch them into him
So true
isnāt just āfunā, xuan wick is meta.
Love to see it
Is the first part of this always active? Or do I have to deal aoe damage for both?
always active
I am to believe it's always active.
Why pull if you have Maru?
Tbh it doesn't seem worthwhile if you already have Maru. Obv you get at least 1 free
no point wastin pulls for a charachter will become standard
but she is definetly stronger
Well said I believe, also Ikora 2 seems more fun overall
Whoever has maru. Save even 4* ikora would do⦠waste of pulls and BP
Why not she's free if you casually play the game
He meant T6
He pulled T2 not T6. Iām just curious lol
I literally don't bother substat farming. Esp when we don't have good f2p chances to reroll substats. Any extra investment on one piece will be eventually replaced by another in future. So why bother
If I dont have maru is ikora worth getting more of or just wait
If you have like 20K LEavs and tryna get ikora to T6 that aint it⦠after 41 days you might be able to double that amount and potentially get a new character or even better one straight to T6
her contellatyions seems good ngl
I only t6 2 people and that was gywnn and jaren
Jaren and Kabr for me
Im sure we will have such meta characters in the future. Not doing the same mistake like on HH lol Im saving
Although maru good she got mobility over her
ur not very good at exploiting the completely broken rng are u? I got to t2 in 60 pulls.
I got new Ikora to T3 in 95 pulls so I'm content with that luck
That not my point bruh. Read
If youāre lucky then it makes it even better. Some people will only get one with all 60, that was me with Kabr. Hopefully I can get better odds with Ikora with free pulls
It took me 58 pulls to get Kabr lmao
This dude a legend
i will probablòy need 400 pulls to t6, idk hw people can find that early
š„
chill mr bezos
as long as I can keep duping the rng I should be at t6 soon. (Ontop of exploiting it so I get it as fast as possible). Iāve done this with everything at this point. From back to back upgrades on artifacts that arenāt +10, to chaos drops.
i'll save until exotic charachters š¤£
Not sure what you're referring to
Locations of all 8 Skybound Igniters
Delusions
I wished they rerun HH
Lucky, i spent 60 pulls for just T0
Now gonna grab free pulls for T1
I had that luck with Kabr in Act 1 but didnt get Ikora until 57th pull š„²
How do you like her vs Maru?
If I ever validate which of the numerous methods I am doing to get it to drop Iāll gladly tell everyone.
is there a guide to bulwark ops, just want to get to wave 15 of endless solo for free rewards
Idk which ones working š and which arenāt
Yes, @bold thunder (#1 bulwark player)
Just use Stone Hoof, Understatement, Acute, Muqam and Anesthesia
No idea, her kit is incomplete so Iām not even gonna bother. Need a void mythic lgl
I have a couple video guides on the build I used for most of my farming if you want:
solo - #videos-and-streams message
coop 2 entrance map - #videos-and-streams message
I'm almost 100 now, just grinding it after my pinnacle is gone
The level 100 chests are so good
Much better than any of the other max level chests
ayy epic thanks
.
Whatās in the background?
Are people playing this game still?
We're all ai actually don't tell anyone
I will say this, ikora alter is way more fun than kabr altar. Wish more people posted builds on leaderboards so i can know the best builds. Guess i have to give it time since she just released
They have been giving us free characters and paid currency for the last 2 cycles, people think the games dying, I'm pretty sure we're just in filler mode till season 4 which Netease will treat like a full launch but to each their own
Sounds promising
I just got 5* ikora, present fleet + two tailed fox seems to work alright
Well we're getting a new raid in late March early April so thatll be fun regardless of anyone's predictions
I have a bunch of artifacts for maru that work on ikora too so at least it saves that grind
Yeah I'm using tailed fox and am doing alright in calamity ops , only get out damaged by helhest.... But what character doesn't at this point lol
I just need tomorrow's pinnacle to grind legacy
Ah dang itās my least favorite stage 36 boss
The minotaur?
Nah the stupid teleporting mf servitor
I always do these on Rossi so like
Itās bunz
Got suuuuper close and my shield went down at a bad time and I got popped by the silly shinka
Hate when you get hit once and now you have to wait like 10 seconds to use abilities again š
Well that isnāt a problem on Rossi I will say
š«§
When I was using helhest it was a pain. With kabr it feels so comfey
Oh yea Kabr is a breeze for it
Itās designed for him and I respect that. But Rossi must push through
Iām no different than when I left
I play for pretty much one character
I can respect someone maining a 4 star character. Rarely see them in matchmaking these days
It is risky to matchmake with a 4*. To many people will just leave.
If they donāt they can watch me mog them with a fairly mid bow wielder
Me too!
I will run with people doing 4* units as long as they can at least help with shinkas to a degree. I would count now as good enough XD
People leave when they see 5 star kabr.... šæ
The game feels sooooo much better now though. Didnāt know what I was missing out on
In fact itās so smooth that Iām actually making mistakes on timing movement and stuff š
Like what
Have to re adapt to no latency
No clue why, he does fine. Ran with a couple 2 cycles ago and even had one in my team when we promoted to master 1. It really is just as risky to get a bad HH player as Kabr 2.0 lol
Yea 5 star Kabr is literally awesome. If Helhest didnāt exist he would be one of the top, but she thoroughly beats him in all categories š
What have you changed?
Donāt tell me you got a phone just for this game?
120 fps with a better processor
Oh no no. Just was time for an upgrade
I havenāt played for 2 weeks. Was nice to come back right when I upgraded
Cool. I was about to say you couldāve gotten a pc lol
Pc master race
I want this on mobile though. Thatās why I like it. Destiny mobile š¤·āāļø
She doesnāt beat him for keeping the team safe. Heals canāt stop the one shot, or even the 1-2 shot, just high end players/content doesnāt really need that currently
If your using a 120 monitor youāll project that with your phone now šš¾
||just not in 4k||
probably the only person in the world to beat 30-40 expanse spread side on estlea
I havenāt tried this time yet, but there have been quite a few of us who had done it in the past. Is this one pretty hard?
Did u figure out u can hide on the ramp for stg 40
Iām not sure if the processor can handle it
Good point. I love a Kabr with good shield placement
Works completely fine
Wait is that on a 17?
You canā¦.
17 pro
well stage 36 is actually the hardest part and 39 on estela
Np
Me with my red magic phone šæ
Has much happened in the game over the past couple months? Any new heroes or game modes that have improved things overall?
Bulwark ops is cool
What was the last character you saw
Jaren I think although I never got him. Last character I got was Helhest
It looks like there was a Kabir 2.0 and maybe one character after that?
This season it was two characters reworked to 5 stars. As each event came up there was a way to get 60-70 pulls for free. After the event they would get added to the standard banner
Right on. Thank you
Marathon hasnt released, just wait it out.
Gonna be a drought, u should see the new ikora, its essentially designed to be the opposite of hype.
Interesting. I was maining the previous Ikora. I'll have to see what changed
She has hair. Same weapons. Blink like gwynn, shield thing like maru.
I forgot I had also gotten Maru. I was pretty underwhelmed by the shield mechanic with her. It worked great but just wasn't really my playstyle.
I would say try her demo or check out a video on her, I dont know what shield is being referred to for her. She gets an overshield but thats about it
I pulled ikora 4x in 50 pulls
just now?
over the day
nice. here i was thinking i got a good deal with 3 for 60 pulls š

NICE MAN
Anybody know if they fixed gungnir in bulwark with the patch?
So kind of
It's "working" as of about a week ago
As in you can definitely trigger the 5%
The problem is it seems like solar is the only thing that triggers it, despite the text
And we're not sure whether that's because the description is wrong, or because it's actually the jolt from gungnir t2 triggering it, or what
But anesthesia + gungnir + scorch definitely triggers it
Here are a couple videos of it
is there anything I can use besides hoof
Yes, but you'll have to replace it with 2 towers instead of 1 - Double Clap Dance + an anti-mod tower for the daily modifier
Dark Fog = Can-Can
Invisibility = Acute Field
Warping = Alloyed Vertebrae
Shielded = Foxtrot
Place the Double Clap Dances where the pink is and the anti-mod towers where the yellow is
And then just put anesthesia where the hoofs were supposed to be
I prefer the AoE anti shield tower tbh, nail sometimes has issues not switching targets
Build the Double Clap Dances and anti-mods around when you'd normally build the hoofs (wave 4ish) and then upgrade the DCDs to 3 by wave 7ish like you would upgrade hoof to 2 in the guide
What is it sorry? I just say long nail usually because I don't have them all memorized
Foxtrot?
I haven't personally used it, but I can change it to that if you're saying you think it's better
Dang, I'm lucky to get 1 in 60 pulls šæ
Here i was wondering if anyone had pulled ikora in a single use draw... ill be damned
Best artifacts for new Ikora
Best rocket launcher for ikora ?
Arc/ Void mythic or truth
Whatās ikora best artifacts
bellowing giant (not hon2) frat/poly or four horned
Is frat always active if youāre solo?
I been enjoying the twin tails, people say it's not good but i seem to be doing fine in calamity ops expert rank. Get MVP a lot
I feel like drill is pretty good
So Iām gonna keep the drill
im keeping the drill too, until i can switch to the truth obv
All the BP weapons are generally the best in slot. I just don't like building them because it's more expensive than a regular exotic
Why?
Is truth actually good tho
i dont know, i've gotten both bellowing and four horned to +7 with exotics but i haven't touched the truth
at +7 both mythics do better than my maxed hon2 atleast
Someone said no someone said yes itās confusing lol need more test
Right?!
Mfs canāt make up their mind, too early to say I guess
True. Remember when people said on day 1 that helhest was bad. Lol
with mythics it's easier to decide because ppl already have a LOT of resources to throw into it +mods being easily obtainable
this isn't the case with exotics
So for now drill + giant is good for me 
Got her to t4 on the last day out of fomo lmao
people usually can max out just 2 per act and that's if they managed to get enough photons
Might and go for t6 for her. Going to wait on the last week and see if the next character is fun and interesting first
Freekoraā¦..
its hairkora
Hahahhahahaha
baldkora and hairkora
I mean itās not like sheās going away for good
Sheās gonna join Kabr 2.0 in the permanent banner right
Idk lol Chinese friends call her stewed egg lol
Imagine the next character is also another alter š
I know but this game is going away soon imo lol
Xuan Wei 2.0
His thunder clap actually does damage now
And he can thunder crash for super
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Fusion shot gun cus changing the guns is a hard concept to execute
Speaking of super. Is anyone else kinda disappointed at ikoras ult? Feels so mid compared to the rest of her kit. Also hate how slow it is š¦„
Alright we on stage 40 with Rossi again
36 was a major pain again but it took wayyy less time than before
I feel the dmg of her super is oof ā¦
The damage is pretty strong on miniboss/elites
Itās probably the second strongest instant cast in the game
The damage is good if the enemy doesn't move , I swear the always back pedal lol
The trick is confine them first
My game updated and my profile has restarted, how do I recover my game data and resume?
Estela is first, right?
If itās insta cast that limits the number of units
If itās just super, I feel that Maru and Jaren may do more damage
Supposed to confine the enemies first, itāll land no matter what then
Ah Gods said it
I read later messages to earlier ones 
@flint aurora I bet youāre happy with the new Ikora. Me and you are eating
I couldnāt do arc precision expanse in 7m like you did(before expanse 40 came out) with 4* Ikora but I was close because you inspired me to try :P
In PvP it wrecks
im sorry but why is the frontlines event so grindy? i hope there's casual events that make up for it because 20 pieces for the first 5 boxes and it increasing the requirements BY 10 PIECES every 5 box is diabolical
Ok... now I have even less doubt about estela being a yearly rerun... 1st cosmetics having a blurb about it now this
Yeah after the first 5 boxes it feels like such a grind. Wonder if it resets every week?
Also after you use up your 6 Frontline keys you get practically nothing lol
while i think it does reset weekly the season ends at march 26th
you kinda are forced to do 10 chests per week so you dont miss out
Does anyone know when artifacts reset?
Dang, going to take a while to get the next 5 boxes
like you get 120 per week, assuming you're not running it again that's like 30~35 boxes
you need to grind the 15~20
yeah
but i guess the MOST safest one is getting 7~8 per week

ikora ball rain
What is bellowing godroll for ikora
frat/poly
u sure?
Are there 9 or 8 fireworks, cuz so far we've only found 8
I wish the fireworks and other collectivles had a notification like in d2 where a ghost icon pops up in the corner of the screen
I wish it had a triumph to track them per area š
I spent $20 on event and didnāt get the new Ikora
Anyone from EMEA/APAC? I need 16 wins left for Play Catch
Anyone damage tested he new ikora?
@thin valve we talked about it hours ago
Got it at 40 pulls
I need more
I think they add some every day. Different times for some people
it says 8 in the patchnotes
i cant believe they risen ikoras hairline
@last warren did you try scattering shell with cluster bomb on single target? Generally it says that you have to hit multiple targets but since you use cluster .. maybe it does proc on single target.
Fair enough
Good idea, ill try tomorrow/later today since I dont have a good roll on that artifact
Hi all. I really like ikora 2.0
So for her talent tree where should a dolphin spender stop? I have her at T0. Thanks
Sadly this hasn't been updated yet.. I have copium that it will be!! š
Also the Dev Model has a face under the helmet šÆ
Chat I finally cleared stage 30 for the first time on the expanse, took my a good 15 minutes to do it after getting Attal to 67000
Gg now try lvl 40 with attal
Hell nah šš
i got 73k attal i think i can do it now
I like your youtube vids. Ty.
But im crazy i went all in on present fleet and twin fox ikora 2.0
(Edit: these are NOT ikora 2.0ās BIS weapons, itās just for fun)
Im still stuck at it with arbalest, random oneshot or the boss hiding so much phase 3, no heavy 
phase 3 wasted a lot of time like what the hell š
are u using the spots where u cant get touched?
If he decide to go so far or get immune
im about to restart and change some gift
Where ?
I dont get much touched at phase 3 but i cant have a good angle depend where he go
phase 1 less annoying because the first part isn't as spacious but phase 3 spot has a LOT of room for the servitor to hide, it makes things annoying
oh i guess it wont help then
but idk. there is a platform on the left
for my wolf clear on arc i just camp there for phase 3
nothing hurts u and u have an angle on him the whole time
i think
1,4 or6. But 1 is very good already. Imho.
for jaren i generally just dps him fast enough before he gets immune and all of that bs
because you have spread it makes it easier to just shoot if he's barely visible, w/ piercing you need headshots otherwise you really do 0 damage
he is kinda looking at u the whole time. i heard this trick from helhests anyway
but hh aim bot thing i guess
atleast there's that, its just the issue with the servitor hiding at phase 3 mostly
yeah i think that happens if u let him live too long
i dont really remember that being a problem
also he randomly one shot me sometime with 1 balls, maybe i could find better artifact, i use stationary and -37% damage if aiming with power piercing, if im aiming I tank, if I dont move i tank 50% of the time the balls
its like better to try to tank than dodge sometime
i cant even start with full heavy because lvl 39 need also A LOT, maybe i have 6/18 ammo, not 27
that being said it never happans if you use hh or anyone who has spread
im in his face with jaren and niaantiks š
QB will make it easy to shot little servitor too but arbalest is a big waste of ammo if you start to clean the phase 3
i think attal not having movement abilities is the problem with her
no her movement ability is only her super
Thank you my man ššš
oh yeah
phase 1 : super, missile, heal, cancel ult for damage buff, start to shoot, phase 3 : cancel super again : he hide or immune 
try going up the platform and see if its better
wasting that 30% dmg buff all for what š
u can get shots off when hes trying to laser u but he cant hit u on that platform lol
and we cant go full amo, phase 1 and 2 i limit myself to 6 heavy then go handcannon, the platform is arround phase 2 or you mean you go more far in the map
just before the three purple orbs
outside him there is also the shinka, and random yellow shank that can one shot me if i do a mistake 
ok ok thanks
you are a genius, first try
the platform 
thats hard to watch
Attal trying her best
estella spread expanse will be worst no worries
i could send a clip of 300 gallows ammo to break the shinka lvl 39
my hh friend cleared this spread expanse š
nerf hh
im trying to clear spread expanse with jaren and no octant or void weapons. it seems possible as well but i have to group adds and such like how i do with wolf. it's not very fun
why not your wolf
i already did XD. im wondering if jaren can force it like that
oh okok good luck
not the servitor doing the funny hide and seek
Do you love yourself?
How is everyone doing here
Iām new here and ready to meet up
Mate its 2026
U aint doing my scamming techniques from 2015š
Jesus
How did that pfp pass the server filter
Mods send them to raid shadow legends
Hey Everyone how are you
200k members that is amazing
Is this server same as destiny the pc game? Or is it a separate server?
Completed all skins
W
how much engrams did it took
25 lol
wtf it took me 85 š
tbh this is worse
60 days worth of high-value bounties
i give up lvl 36 spread with estella, 3 waves of void already waste all my gallows before shinka
yea lvl 36 is a painnn
they have so much life lol, and all the gift dont proc gallows so useless except gravity
idk if wolf mythic launcher can
yea when out of ammo it will be hard, for boss
is ikoras micro black hole a summon?
this is alr w/ oversoul decree?
if youre already grouping the enemies yeah idk. w jaren rn im trying to group then spam the gravity things and it kinda works
just need to be a bit faster so i can pop the shinka 1 by 1 lol
maybe can help i didnt upgrade this weapon
earlier people were saying yeah. and why rampaging pact is good on her
One new event challenge says "claim high-value rewards in bulwark ops 6 times", i did solo endless but my chests didnt count, i did one with pinacle and one without so far, got 3 in my retrievels.
does only 3 player endless count? or what am i missing?
Summons usually show as a little icon with a little timer on bottom left screen, so anything, it works.
Ok I gotta get 30 points in shadow duel and I donāt even play itā¦..
Kmt
Need a skip ticket
Because now I gotta do something I donāt wanna do :/
no i did the same thing, pretty sure it has to be the pinnacle rewards from normal three player, you get three a week
thanks for the answer, i already did the 3 weekly rewards in normal 3 player , do i have to wait for next week?
i would think so but iām not 100%, i used my last 100 on solo endless thinking those chest would count but they didnāt, iāll check it out when reset comes and let you know, but thatās the only thing i could think of that would be considered high value since itās limited to three a week
okay thanks, i guess we will see next week
Lolll
So Chinese server has a event u can get 100% more recharge bonus
double silver?
we had that tho
i think its the first event maybe
good way to get people to sign up i guess
let me join you as wolf š
Idk I could be wrong
cant be worst
Finally T6 hairkora
attal and wolf they're very meta
Used everything lol
The commitment
balls
happy friday the 13th
lol why does Maru and hairkora can use artifacts like calming token, without the "non suitable" warningš but for other non-piercing units the same artifacts says "this character cannot use piercing weapons"
Visual bug?
maru will be able to use piercing weapons in the next update /s
Guys, where can I find a tier list of the characters here?
š
It's been a long time since I last played, and I want to know which one I should keep investing in.
you have helhest? invest everything into her XD
i think miseryhatesco made a tier list recently on his youtube channe
That's cool, but can I find a complete tier list here on Discord?
there isn't a complete tier list on the discord afaik
Thanks for the tip, I'll open it here on yt.
his rising channel is Misery - Destiny Rising. he has a separate one for diablo immortal i think the name i mentioned is for diablo immortal my bad
Yes, I found a video of him from 3 weeks ago putting together his tier list. I don't know if it's relevant, but it'll do for me.
ikora only came out yesterday so its pretty much up to date except her i think
Tier lists don't matter because majority of chatacters aren't obtainable
Good day, has anyone of you already got the red chat frame from Operation Cordon?
Hey guys how important packs or clans in this game?
I joined a good activity one but it's not in english
O shqipe
Yoo ckemii
Gjej naj klan te mir
Po jam duke kerkuar
Shum rradh pz skam gjet
Shiko cik dm
What are games of catch? For the Event? Fishing?
itās in jhanshi or however you spell it by the vendor, youāll see four circles on the ground
pass the bomb around minigame in jiangshi metro spawn
ahh ok thanks š
That one lasts forever if u havent got friends..but even with them other people join in and it even lasts longer
have u guys seen helhest with a rocket launcher?
do the duo version if you can
have u guys seen this decal?
i thought my game was glitched out when i saw someone with that in game, maybe it was you
or this one @sharp talon
the new one
oh ok
Hmm which GL should I use for ikora? I don't have the band 2 exotic drill
I wish this game had actual character customisation instead of whatever the heck decals were intended to do
nvm not like we have anything else other than Present Fleet
is ikora T6 worth, it said damage recuded 60%
i read that as the second explosion having reduced damage but idk
it adds a second delayed explosion that's 60% weaker
yeah i thought it was a nerf but after reading it again i think its only the 2nd that does reduced
4 of these glows but haven't gotten a single of the orange version .-.
We need shaders like how they had them in d1... colours the whole armour set
There is another one which just requires 2 people right side from the Daily Commission NpC
Can't you just upgrade from blue to get the orange version
Yes you can
Thatās how I did my flawless one
is ikoras Q worth investing into? with things like bellicose
What do we think are the best new ikora artifacts, the new ones?
Not sure
i used like 25 000 lumia, got ikora T4, with free boat i got T5 + T6 when they release the crystal, it was worth ?
Are ring artefacts for slot 1 and 2 of new ikora good.Or are the new ones better?
do you like her/have fun with her? then its worth if so
didnt try, i will struggle to max the exotic primary
Hymm
Any general consensus on Ikora artifacts and substats?
i was gonna pull her but i was thinking about that as well
I swear to all that is holy that I will delete this game if the next character is a RESKIN
3 months of fillers is not cool
A lot of ppl say the new ones are good but idk
it will take time but yea, actually for 25 000 lumia a T6 is fine, i push pity 2 time then double mythic, its what, like 350$ ? when a guaranteed T6 can be 800/900$ without crystal/free boat
25k lu.ia is 350$?
if truth is good i might try and spend my lumia reserves
i have a lot of bm tokens so i can max truth out. but not enough for primary
i just hit 3 ikoras in 50 pulls we're so back
sad i cant
i think the cluster bomb 4horned ram is like strong enough on her that they might nerf it so id go 4hr
7200 is 100$ in game
yeah maru and ikora light links work really well together rip maru. maybe i shouldve pulled her
Good morning Guardians
I regret upgrading my black armory rocket now
Oh okk
i could push T6 today but its stupid to not wait crystal, i still have 25 000k saved
oh yea u have insane savings lol
I didnt have 2 character to link with her only one was gokd for her the other wasnt suggested for it it gives solar .
Noice
I actually am trying tonget every new character for t0
i have like 21k leaves right now. i probably shouldnt try for ikora and save for next character instead right? i do think i have a good chance at t6ing her because her banner is long if i use all
But ill do another 10 for her hopfully i get t1 and leave it at that
at least i can spread without wolf its not a waste, for a permanent character later she is still cool, arc rocket vorpal/cluster is really good
shes very fast if you use your cds well
like you can keep up with a ning on fulminator pretty comfortably
unless they super i guess
Is her t1 worth tho what it does
her t1 is really good i think
Nice to have a fast warlock at least. Iāll give her a shot whenever she drops for me
it gives her an extra charge if i remember corectly?
Only did one ten pull
dodge rocket Q dodge etc
Ohh def worth it then
Imo when it gies tonstandard the chances are so low. I let kabbr to go standard in my mini acc and used 110 blue boats and nit a single copy
yea i really want to pull her more but thinking about bp weapon š
is the new rocket any good compared to the exotic gl?
if i get the $5 bp i can max truth out becuz of how many bp tokens and bm tokens i saved
but i dont know if its good
I might too to get truth cata 1 and bp tokkens for drill
i need 180 bp tokens for maru drill š
Cata band 1 is enough for me
maru drill?
Yh
power is low though
I mean thats enough for me as a low f2p to low spender
worried i wont hit the calamity threshold
why do i always need to do 50+ pulls for every single clone in this game while there are people getting mythic chars to T6 with 90-100 pulls total? wtf dude
Tbh the Truth Rpg is basically same to the TT but only on the lock on effect it needs something else like a certain debuff when hitting an enemy
i think truth can be better because u can stack more
I can make that happen probably
two tailed lacks the damage
i did have good luck with ikora in terms of free pulls. i never got a unit in 20 pulls before (edit: shouldn't have used copy there bad wording)
Its just skill based gambling
I used 3.6 k lumia and then 20 of the free pulls
I've already invested in it because I can't really do anything with truth or drill lol
Then got it at 40 so i got luckier than kabbr
Not spending means I can get like 2 catalyst bands at most
True
same I pumped it up for new ikora and ended up using Truth for the big ammo in the holster š
lmfao 'skill based' š
Anyway im waiting for artefact rec as rn im using ring for 1 and 2 old spread for 3 and the new one for 4th
I've just got artifacts from maru on ikora
I could use the spread ones but then her dash skill would be useless
i was wondering if explosive shell would be good for her. i think i recall reading about maru that sometimes the shinka wouldn't pop without it
There need to be tests
Still need to get better attributes and I'm probably gonna replace scattering shell but this is what I'm running atm

Is gwynn the mom of destiny š
Undaunted and siphoning work pretty well on ikora since you get overshield for days
i saw a 4 minuteish time on expanse with ikora and truth. it could be better with truth because she stacks more
They better than the rings?
i have no idea though
As far as I can tell they seem more consistent
reloading the rocket launcher ever feels bad so truths prob just smoother
Siphoning should trigger undaunted's dr and she has AOE for days
Can someone explain how the skills work tho
I'm still not entirely sure what stellar projection is for
But her dash is basically reload + movement and is how you trigger weapon mastery
I see ill have tonuse them and see whats best for my playstyle tho
your blink stacks charges of a black hole, the more charges the higher tha pull radius, you spend it shooting one of your guns, it puts volatile and little balls on the mobs it hits, you use your beam to hit the little orbs and mobs in the black hole and do big dam
this is the meta someone good give me
weapon ability signature void
4th is explozive?
i thnk thats belicose
belicose blazar
Aha ok
is truth or drill better?
maybe truth help something in expanse but overall this rocket clear every other by far
ok, so drill
Interesting
What u think of bellowing
Is it worth dropping 60 of my BP tokens to get drill catalyst 2
I have 120 stockpiled I've been saving em for months
Well def
didnt try, taniks do the math yesterday and said ram vorpal cluster
Ok thanks
ok i dont think i will invest in ikora much because i need 180 bp tokens to max drill š
yea its a must you dont need to invest them for truth or other, i will have to wait a lot buying in black market 
Those fireworks helped a lot with bm coins lol
180 bp tokens is an insane amount though
They should give us mkre fireworksšš
cluster bomb just procs her weapon mastery a billion times
I just want to get to unchanged of cal ops and stay there forever
i will just stay jaren and hope for carry š
Thats main reason i m upgrading ikira hidden
and 40 tokens is like 35$ silver lol
or build ning but it will take time to build him š
essence and god roll mess again
What are people's thoughts on Nimble Spiral vs Rampaging Pact? 25% for 10s but you have to be airborne when using movement ability vs 33% for 6s and you only have to use the movement ability. Ability cooldown is 15s
My ning is at 71k but yh my artefacts need a lot if work still
i basically need to build another character anyway. i could also go for octant build on jaren cuz i have octant arti god rolls as well. i just need to save essence and that's it for that build
Ah that's pretty neat
When you need the dps rampaging should be available pretty often, when she enters her rage state you get a lot of ability charges
Its crazy that i have played niw like 4 months and not even 1 copy of octant or gallows
Even izanagi
I think I just like the idea of not needing to remember to jump to proc it as well
But since 40k im not wanting an izanagi anymore
if you never got a copyt of gallows or octant were you just not doing their stages?
theyre like guaranteed and have bad luck protection š¤
oh noey

gang drill>truth?
think its preference at this point
yea
good question actually, i dont know what to choose
any new artifacts and r they good for ikora?
So looking at various threads and reading over options myself I'm currently farming for: Unrelenting/Siphoning/Rampaging/Bellicose. I feel most confident about slot 3, slot 4 new relic might also be good. I and 2 maybe better options but after looking over things I like these.
@indigo solar did you think about it ? i have one ready idk
The ring set is new, tailored for ikora's kit but the blazars from maru are still better
Again just based on threads where others do testing
(mostly)
Pact gives a total of 24s uptime, which should be more than enough
Just after I spend my pinnacle farming upgrade mats for ikora I need exotic mats for drill
Investing into two tailed early might not have been the best idea but what's done is done
funny that pact work for so many character even not really summon
@indigo solar These look right to you?
Gonna take ages for me to get 60 more BP tokens though I'm not maxing drill any time soon
Vorpal cluster ram has the best damage vs powerful enemies by a long shot, and builds stacks the quickest. HON2 with splash feast has the best blast radius for grabbing ads with the black hole
Probably so the mods arenāt so character specific and cover more options (characters)
Why not inverted fury for shell 3?
See Taniks's message above
Ok yh i i have all 3 with the best perks nkw but do u think the mods nit having disturbance vorpal and cluster matter?
Also what artefacts for 1st and 2nd in your opinion for new ik
blast radius + boss
and hit damage bonus + handling
yea but they make new artifact and at the end often we go back rampaging act, if i dont read it here i didnt know ikora dash is a summon
Not sure if that's shell or subgravity for first one, both are good options tho. I don't personally like siphoning Blazar, mainly bc I don't like how the description is somewhat misleading, but it's still decent. Blazar and rift are both good for slot 2. Rampaging pact is best for slot 3 for sure. I assume bellicose slot 4 is referring to Blazar, and if so, yes.
Also note that there's also a CC build that uses slot 3 and 4 shell to increase the black hole grab radius
Not really, no. It builds stacks so much faster and does enough of a difference in boss damage that as long as you meet the power req, it should be good
Sorry didnt realize there were a couple of options with similar partial names. Thanks for taking a look
It was Unrelenting Shell, Siphoning Blazar, Rampaging Pact, Bellicose Blazar
Ok tha ks
Yeah all decent options, tho I think I'd prefer shell in slot 2, since to my knowledge her generating overshield isn't much of an issue, so the additional cap would help more. Could be wrong tho, haven't played with her yet
I also want to test the other pact artifacts to see which ones work well
Which shell are you referring to, I only see Bloodthirsty but dont know what you mean by cap then.
Netease devs are back again to prove they have 0 skill cuz movement abilities are not summons. Itās stuff like this that are the reason Q times are so long. I didnāt like anything this update, even the izi update was bad.
Oh sorry rift*
It's not that it's a movement skill triggering summon on accident, it's that the mini black hole you create counts as a summon
Also Izzy is great now, tho unfortunately still doesn't play nice with calming
Im curious about sweet business buffs
you have the mr. fresh sticker love it
i wanna see furies, thing got like 5 rows of buff notes
Idc about it being or not being movement. I do care about the lack of customization and the logic behind the balancing. Izi is not efficient enough to be viable in new content. Just a buff for existing use cases. And the last thing that stung was no Valentineās Day, and whatever replaced it.
a lot of great mythic machineguns too
Valentineās Day Umeko skin

I want those crota skins š
Itās from a private server called freaky sanctuary š„
And for some reason itās one of the only ones that the owner didnāt post as an image
Likely story 
I mean how do they let helhest generate infinite amounts of heavy ammo ontop of always criting a getting ammo refunds while shooting without a need to reload. HH gets to deal 4x more dmg but they canāt refill Umekos heavy all the way in chaos/expanse.
23 exotic , 4 dice for what
cant wait a rework
This is what I have to offer
