💭│main-chat

[scenic wigeon]

Yeah it was so much easier

[dusty spire]

Yeah up to I think stage 8 but then my battery was low so I went to do save and exit but o just exited the run :/ I still think it’s possible just cba, I can try again and show you outcome time lol?

[carmine stone]

So Polaris is BiS for Tan, Symmetry is BiS for Kabr, what exotic is BiS for Umeko?

[dusty spire]

Help me

[dusk hemlock]

No help me

[dusty spire]

😩

[stark forge]

symmetry

[carmine stone]

Okay then what mythic scout rifle is best for Umeko? I’m guessing it’s the Del Lassi?

[dusty spire]

Yeah save and exit, had to think about that one 30+ secs added quickly lol

[twilit thistle]

Not the arc one.

[dusty spire]

Any wolf done that stage?

[twilit thistle]

The rest is preference.

[bitter estuary]

izanagi, before the rework it was 40k for sustained burst dps

[bitter estuary]

depends on the element cycle

all scouts are good in their own way

atm you'd rather go for fang of ir yut

[carmine stone]

So you mean anything except the Fang lol.

[bitter estuary]

fang isn't bad it's just slow

[carmine stone]

So far I haven’t been able to come close to the DPS of Del Lassi on any other mythic scout in the shooting ranges

[bitter estuary]

whats the substats of your mods?

[twilit thistle]

Given that izi is your primary source of damage it truly is just preference. Youll never come close to the damage it puts out with a scout.

[bitter estuary]

idk what counts as mid ranged

[twilit thistle]

If you are f2p its likely going to be TL because its going to be able to take down the rapid fire shinkas faster. If that's not something that's an issue, you can join me and run del.

[autumn bough]

just got buffed in the last update

[carmine stone]

Not F2P

[carmine stone]

@twilit thistle would you change any of these mods?

[twilit thistle]

Its so bad in pvp. I wouldn't even notice, im always running borealis (which surprisingly destroys the bots in SG for some random reason). Dont sleep on borealis, in lower level content like chaos I always run that one bc it just scales better with all the buffs.

[twilit thistle]

Nah u got rate of fire thats all that matters for bear.

[indigo solar]

Izzy

[bold thunder]

I use to cook with borealis in d2 pvp

I wish dr pvp felt more comfortable to me

[indigo solar]

Will get buffed*

Buff doesn't happen until tomorrow

[twilit thistle]

Only against the sg bots. Gaze=1 shot. I think just 1 or 2 debuffs also = 1 shot @indigo solar

[carmine stone]

40k still BiS for Tan tho?

[indigo solar]

Yes

[carmine stone]

Awesome thank you very much.

[indigo solar]

Tatara 1 shots without debuff ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[carmine stone]

So Tatara is good but not as good as 40k? What’s god roll for 40k?

[twilit thistle]

Ya but its not pvp i mentioned. When we are talking what, 6 rounds? Vs 10?

[indigo solar]

Tatara is only really good for PvP

God roll for 40k is frat/searing mark

[twilit thistle]

Also i did try 40k in sg and it didnt go well

[indigo solar]

True

[autumn bough]

Polaris lance fully max probably feel extremely satisfaying paired with 40k

[carmine stone]

Best exotic mod traits? Long range, Magazine size and boss damage?

[indigo solar]

I do think Izzy will be quite good for SG after tomorrow

[indigo solar]

Rof, not mag size

Searing mark maxes out with 5 ammo in the mag

[wheat ferry]

Devs I was joking when I said character trailers were the next to go😭

[sharp talon]

sure, i would be really interested to see a maru clear

[twilit thistle]

Doubt. Economy of SG heavy ammo just doesn't work well with it anymore. When it was real players it was different.

[indigo solar]

Single shot will be able to one tap tho

[half sky]

Alright peeps don't do or claim your high value bounties till after reset they always f me over with this just a heads up you do urs ignore 😉

[iron yarrow]

is server down?

[sharp talon]

it isn't im in game

[half sky]

It's not down

[twilit thistle]

On mobile maybe, but again its just bots. I can run the blue sniper rifle and win lol. It takes everything to take out those ikoras. had a match where I counted 8 of them in the starting lobby.

[misty fiber]

@bitter estuary :p

[limber pine]

Wake up NetEase you got a trailer to release lol

[leaden epoch]

Patch notes pretty much covers it, not much point to a trailer now

[limber pine]

Every new character has a trailer tho lol..

Do it for the hype at the least 🤷‍♂️

[dusty spire]

Still no trailer?

[karmic chasm]

No need for a trailer

[dusty spire]

At this point I’d agree lol

Won’t be long until I go sleep

Well guess my trailer is the trial tomorrow

[bitter estuary]

grinding mobius and topological asthatine before ikora

[tight talon]

I forgot to do weeklies for legendary campaign last week

Sadge

[sharp talon]

ive been skipping them for chaos 💀

[dusk hemlock]

Wait you guys didnt get a trailer?

[dusty spire]

Wow…..

[bitter estuary]

guys is 300 fruits enough to max out ikora H

[stark forge]

more than enough

[limber pine]

Don't forget the purple napkins

[limber pine]

Waiting still

They taking "The Hidden" way too cereal

[dusk hemlock]

It was pretty interesting

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

You are hiding something from us

But I can't prove it

[dusk hemlock]

😐

https://tenor.com/view/squint-eyes-really-gif-13700560966715616459

[vast arch]

how we feeling about the weapon buffs in the patch notes?

[bitter estuary]

finnala meta soon

[vast arch]

ngl I kinda want to fast forward to S4

[bitter estuary]

Same

But hey atleast free pulls

[vast arch]

I still want to participate in S3A2 but I want it to be like 2 weeks long lol

[limber pine]

Can't wait to try some of them out after the buffs

Esp the snipes

[vast arch]

Maybe furies will be worth using again...

[twilit thistle]

I have 4/6 of them built, or 90% built. Im glad i didnt build tg or old perfect because I still dont think they will be useful.

[limber pine]

I hope so when I started playing it was already irrelevant lol

[vast arch]

was the first BP weapon I maxxed out lol

[limber pine]

Seems like a cool gun too I've yet to pull it tho

[indigo solar]

Still won't, most likely

Since mgs have near-infinite ammo

Izzy wasn't a BP weapon

[vast arch]

that was before i edited my comment lmao

[limber pine]

I only have 3 maxed exotics rn 😭

[twilit thistle]

what about the rest other than izi, which was a major rework.

[limber pine]

Trinity seems like a major rework

[karmic chasm]

Wait

[limber pine]

Still won't be picked over a linear tho lol

[karmic chasm]

Is it gonna be Rossi bis

[leaden epoch]

Is it going to be preferred over an exotic auto crossbow?

[limber pine]

Possibly, they didn't buff the crossbow

[karmic chasm]

Idk. Never way before. I’ve always used Mahamayuri

[limber pine]

So are we really getting Truth as the BP exotic?

[karmic chasm]

I’m coming back soon so I’ll have to decide

I can afford Trinity if I really have to for Rossi’s sake

[limber pine]

That's crazy lol

[devout void]

crazy no trailer

[karmic chasm]

What is

[naive ingot]

Nothing for concerto, octant, chap 😭

[limber pine]

I have trinity on my Rossi already and I use it religiously. The buff is only gonna make it better lol

[karmic chasm]

The crossbow WAS better definitively but idk now

[limber pine]

Only 1 unit even uses those 👀 🤣

[vast arch]

Do any of those weapons need buffs?

[twilit thistle]

You should make a tier list of the weapons mentioned, after the buff. (just focusing on those)

[signal spade]

I would've liked a concerto buff that doesn't consume the stacks if you don't shoot your shotgun

[karmic chasm]

Well, guess I’ll see in a few days.

[signal spade]

Weapon swapping with ADHD too strong

[vast arch]

that would be amazing

[limber pine]

Sho do a fire range before and after of the guns getting buffed.

[indigo solar]

Trinity may be good enough to be worth using over Maha on Rossi, won't affect HH
Business will be alright for Finnala but will depend on how quickly the buff goes away if you aren't holding the trigger
Furies will still not be worth running
Prefect won't change much
Crimson will be slightly better for PvP but other than that still not much use
Izzy may actually become viable for Tan, tho I expect 40k to still be best. Will have virtually no effect on honed edge mode

[naive ingot]

Yes 😂 big time

[naive ingot]

Jaren and Xuan Wei can use Octant and Chap...

[vast arch]

so you're gonna do pre-post testing, right?

[indigo solar]

Concerto just feels underwhelming bc its main effect is just a Jaren ability, Octant doesn't need a buff, chappy desperately needs one

[limber pine]

Only jaren good impact user

[sharp talon]

did anyone figure out whether the lvl 100 crates from bulwark are capped?

[indigo solar]

It is

[limber pine]

I don't see no void lol

[indigo solar]

Still 1500 xp per week

[indigo solar]

I've got the Izzy numbers

Will need to do Trinity

[naive ingot]

Till it's void, then he won't be

[twilit thistle]

The only criticism i can provide is that some of these could be viable for shinka/element combos. (which is why I have them built in the first place) but yea other than that 100% agree.

[vast arch]

don't forget to remove your artifacts and light links lmao

[indigo solar]

Ofc

[limber pine]

Maybe season 4 we will see

Lmao

[indigo solar]

Honed edge currently does 2.5x base damage, and 5.57x precision damage iirc

[naive ingot]

Plus power creep on older characters (apart from Helhest 😭 )

[indigo solar]

With a max Izzy

[signal spade]

Gwynn blink kinda terrible compared to jaren dodge

[limber pine]

Don't get me wrong I love Gwynn I wish she was in my lobby instead of "pew pew pew" every 20 seconds

[karmic chasm]

I’m kinda happy actually. Finally something new for Rossi

Game will feel fresh when I login and grind it

[vast arch]

I love playing Gwynn but I wish she was better

[karmic chasm]

Plus green trinity matches my Rossi decals

[naive ingot]

Powercrept big time now

[limber pine]

I use the red one 😃

My t6 Rossi and his Ghoul are waiting

[vast arch]

I still love when she has a legendary campaign mission during the week

[naive ingot]

That's this week 😂

[karmic chasm]

I was using the red one, but you’ve seen my green decals on Rossi so green looks even better

[limber pine]

Me too I always borrow her

[karmic chasm]

Glad I T6ed bro

[limber pine]

Yeah facts lol

[vast arch]

If her blink was further and the delay at the beggining and end was shortened by A LOT she would feel so much better

[karmic chasm]

Most recent photo I had

[limber pine]

A player named Shepd has master Gwynn blink in pvp lol

[karmic chasm]

No longer#4 Rossi I guarantee lol

[limber pine]

It's rlly good when he does it

[karmic chasm]

More Ning mains and other Rossis have bumped me down I’m sure

I’ll be back

[limber pine]

Looks sick. I see a lot who do that helmet one in lots of colors

[naive ingot]

I don't PvP. On phone it's things...

[limber pine]

I Low-key been on Ning a lot lately lol

[karmic chasm]

Looks even better on Jaren in orange

[limber pine]

He really is an 11

[limber pine]

Jaren a mythic wolf skin helm

[naive ingot]

If I do SG I use Maru, Jaren or Ikora mk1

[limber pine]

Maru can be so good in pvp it's kinda ridiculous

[sharp talon]

jaren in sg is really fun

[twilit thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[limber pine]

Jaren can hit u a mile away with his sniper

[naive ingot]

My Maru and Jaren are T0 as well

[karmic chasm]

When I come back I’m gonna lay low and experiment with Trinity before beginning the grind again

[limber pine]

Maru is act still good t0

[karmic chasm]

Spend my pinnacle on what I find fun

[limber pine]

Jaren idk I didn't get him

[naive ingot]

I still need to do SG for my freebie this week as mostly been doing Bulwark...

[indigo solar]

Try Attal

[karmic chasm]

Attal so good in PvP oml

That’s all I was doing the week I deleted the game lol

[indigo solar]

2 tap @ 140rpm

And blinding

And healing

[karmic chasm]

Still sad Corndog cut all contact. Never accepted my frq either

[indigo solar]

And 4 ammo one tap heavy

[signal spade]

I don't get this banner ikora is not going standard but her pulls don't carry over again?

Or she's going standard and they haven't confirmed it for whatever reason

[candid tusk]

and no mythic void light GL announcement is astonishing

[sharp talon]

they announced her pulls will turn into blue later. it would be kinda odd if she isnt standard

[signal spade]

Well they announced the free pulls would which makes sense so you can't just stack the 60 and get the next one they want you to pay for

Yea I'm gonna be mad if they randomly drop a void gl tomorrow but this banner is screaming 'filler' at the top of its lungs so maybe it's just a stopgap

I'm not super shocked by the lack of character trailer and stuff but it's weird the new year's event didn't get something

[bitter estuary]

Oh true because i'd be pissed with the amount of investment i did for the arc lgl

😭

[karmic chasm]

It’s whatever. I don’t expect much of Netease at this point. I’m just gonna play for fun and leave my hope on the embers

[signal spade]

I hope they put actual health on the new front lines boss

Current public space bosses die quicker than a shinka

[coral stump]

wait there are new front line boss?

[signal spade]

There's one for the new year's event currency

[karmic chasm]

Cool cool

[coral stump]

oh

[signal spade]

It sounds not terrible at least. As much as the gm legendary campaign sucked for rewards they kinda made up for it by just giving out 7 free photons

Now we pray truth isn't terrible

Or can somehow find a niche where it's better than ttf

[pulsar coral]

Absolutely blows my mind

[cyan tide]

Are y'all really surprised? The exact same thing happened with Maru

They're probably gonna add the one that was leaked with the S4 raid

[bitter estuary]

Oh wait i remember when ppl where alr investing on the solar gl when tsurinibuse came out

[signal spade]

Didn't they tell us we were getting new engrams though

We had the cringe 200 shard engrams for the first time

[cyan tide]

For S3? I think they announced it like a week before the update

[signal spade]

That was also at the start of a season I think

Not the act iirc

I just mean it was in the notes more than like sixteen hours before the patch

[cyan tide]

Yeah, they don't add new weapons in act 2, the only exception is the mythic bow but that's because there were literally none before S1A2

[indigo thistle]

Present Fleet is so bad. Surely they're adding another LGL?

[signal spade]

It's not bad it's just arc

Until they powercreep polyploidy it's too good and fraternity on it gets the reload incredibly high

[indigo solar]

In what world is present fleet bad

[indigo thistle]

I guess I found Ikora 1.0 unplayable until Drill.

With Drill, I actually like playing her. (I skipped Maru).

[signal spade]

One of ikoras abilities puts void damage on her guns like joldr bubble I think?

So maybe it won't matter anyway

[indigo thistle]

But also, I don't have fully built Present Fleet, so maybe that's part of the problem.

[pine coral]

Hey, what are the memoir pages for? Can anyone help me exchange these?

[cyan tide]

Yo Taniks, is it true that swordbreaker is better than Thermo for Jaren? I remember seeing you say that it wasn't a while ago

[indigo solar]

In general, no. For some calops, yes

[signal spade]

People hyped it for like a week because it could one shot a shinka barrier with helhest buffs in one niche calops edge case

[cyan tide]

Alright, I'll just stick to thermo then

Don't really care about hyper optimizing calops

[sharp talon]

if you have the first perk activated and take tick damage inside impact shinka bubble, you can break it in one shot without hh drone

[haughty dragon]

So what do we think of the new ikora so far😂

Truth is an interesting weapon to bring in

[coral stump]

When does act 2 releases

[haughty dragon]

Probably tomorrow

It's nice they are at least giving us a free copy

[hard forge]

Yo wtf are the devs thinking actually? Double spread AGAIN?

[coral stump]

I won't praise them for that since its 'just' a better version of an already existing character

[candid tusk]

double VOID spread again, with same weapons as ikora, with no new mythic void light GL so she doesn't even have a primary weapon

[haughty dragon]

Maybe who knows her kit hasn't been announced

[candid tusk]

it's been datamined for a week though

[haughty dragon]

Her abilities?

[coral stump]

Im the only one who enjoys spread because I like Maru and I spent everything on the exotic GL? 😭

[gusty bridge]

If they name her Amara, will it be better?

[candid tusk]

might be using the drill on ikora as well since they released new mythic rocket launchers unless the truth or fox are very good

[hard forge]

Well I heard that there was another gl but maybe that was just bait

[haughty dragon]

I'm still waiting for anarchy lol

[coral stump]

Ik its a joke but lets say its real, it wont work because it would be obvious that her kit is similar to the 4* Ikora like Kabr which is different but has similarities with its legendary version

[candid tusk]

the notes have no new light GL announcement so I wouldn't expect it

[gusty bridge]

But Amara can dash with orbs

[candid tusk]

so she'll probably be using a void purple primary weapon or the drill

[coral stump]

Everything will depend on which Truth version they're bringing. If its the D2 version its jank but if it's close to the D1 version......

[hard forge]

Well at least with kabr we got different weapons

[haughty dragon]

True

[coral stump]

D1 Truth was a beast so I hope its close to its D1 version

[haughty dragon]

I'm glad they moved kabr to the standard banner, only need 1 more copy

[coral stump]

Im just a bit disappointed about actual content of act 2 because we're not getting anything meaningful. Its going to be a boring month

[dusk hemlock]

They should bring the Gjallarhorn to DR

[gusty bridge]

Seems that way. Its the stall season, and banking it in Season 4

[coral stump]

At least a new story and a new RSR zone is coming in March I guess it explains why content is quite boring for now

[twilit thistle]

An image that gives me nightmares.

[dusk hemlock]

Deserved

[haughty swallow]

did you spend pinnacle

[twilit thistle]

[wide dagger]

Tomorrow hopefully some new good stuffies bec fhe game is so boring rn

[coral stump]

From what patch note shows us we'll get an event with a new front line boss and morgrans hunt a bit after, thats it

[wide dagger]

Just that !

[coral stump]

But S4 will bring much things if we can believe the roadmap

[candid tusk]

name one piece of content they've added that is highly engaging, good rewards, and actually used for end game loop comparable to cal ops?

[coral stump]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh nothing

[candid tusk]

right, they're incapable of understanding what to do so s4 content isn't going to be good either

crota was the only piece of content that is solid (minus the insane amount of bugs to ruin the race) but the race was fun

everything else has been uselessly horrendous

[vast arch]

ARE YOU JOKING

[coral stump]

Oh I forgot a new pinnacle energy system is coing in S4

I hope its good it could revitalize the game if we get something more rewarding even if we don't have any energy left

Because now its just crap lmao. When you have spent all of your pinnacle energy the only thing you can do is leaving the game 😭

[vast arch]

@lavish nymph #🎁│in-game-binding

[candid tusk]

except at this point there's nothing to grind for except for mobius clusters (maybe), artifacts, and artifactual essence

there's no content that requires building the full roster up to max so as long as you can run overseer cal ops for rewards, and complete expanse 40, there's nothing that needs materials

[bitter estuary]

Swordbreaker?

[sharp talon]

yea

[indigo solar]

At least you can transfer to arc

[bitter estuary]

I think thermo is better for expanse where you need something quick for ad clear while you don't really need it in calops/cordon/morgrans

[sharp talon]

yeah i agree w that

[urban tendon]

smone knows if there will be a “normal” banner ? over the ikora one i mean

[oak kettle]

Stage 10 Corden with randoms is pain. I’m trying to get my Jaren clear and I keep running into the same helhest who just drops their drones at the entrance of the room and sits there.

[twilit thistle]

😭

[oak kettle]

Doesnt gen ammo, doesnt cast supers, doesnt give the jarens any buffs to help with impact shinkas or deal boss damage. Absolutely useless

Oh and doesnt focus down arc shields when they’re the only person who can damage them

[minor holly]

I liked the tower defense

[twilit thistle]

Better than the t0 kabrs using jade and eol that ran outa crayons.

[oak kettle]

Genuinely no, did a run with a kabr instead of a Jaren (and the same helhest) and the crayon kabr did 3 times as much

I wish I was joking

[candid tusk]

i'm glad you liked it, but it is the worst tower defense game probably ever created in modern history

[naive ingot]

🤣🤣

[twilit thistle]

Musta had a decent ammount of crayons prior to the match. When they run out they just stare. I often wonder if they know how to tie thier shoes. For the helhest, I recommend trying to communicate. (possible that someone is depressed)

[minor holly]

Damn, born after the starcraft custom map era

[candid tusk]

i definitely was not, but that's why I said modern tower defense games

[minor holly]

True, guess I shouldnt say anything about the cat pet simulator then 😶

[sinful totem]

Still no trailer?

[delicate mango]

I was expecting a trailer about the new character

[cyan tide]

Trailer next week

[rotund raptor]

Its gonna be 1 hour before maintence atp

[candid tusk]

there's not even a graphic created for the new act/battle pass

[signal spade]

I need a video of a character we have already shooting guns we have already... But with hair

Should've just made an ikora montage of all of her campaign moments as a frag video

[twilit thistle]

[signal spade]

Feed him wtf he's starving

[cyan tide]

5* Xuan Wei when

[minor holly]

At that point just give me Radigast

[signal spade]

Why isn't there a patch note literally buffing his super damage by like 300 percent

You'd think his fists were made of sponge

[sinful totem]

Upgrade the homie right now

[bitter estuary]

why your xuan so low

[south cargo]

T0 kabr is the same as any kabr i match in calamity they all do 20% damage

[twilit thistle]

Wish I had time. @vast arch while I haven't found 3rd yet, I am going to carry everyone to be on the same level so the Q is faster 😂

[carmine stone]

So apparently people on YouTube think this means Ikora’s limited draw event will not share a guarantee count with Kabr. Leaving mine at 59 to see if that’s true tomorrow.

I had 5 pulls left for T4 Kabr so I pulled it, not willing to risk wiping out 55 pulls on a guarantee lmao.

[signal spade]

It won't they made that clear with the kabr announcements

[carmine stone]

It won’t* share guarantee totals with the Kabr event?

[signal spade]

No both of them are like totally independent from everything else according to their phrasing

[carmine stone]

In that case glad I pulled the Kabr after all.

[signal spade]

Ya that was def correct

[toxic socket]

Im not 100% sure. The free draws you get from the Event; yes they wont share cause it will convert to normal pulls from the Standard Banner. But what If you use 55 Limited draw boats or Lumina leaves to get 55 draws to get him near t2 or Higher?

[signal spade]

You scammed yourself pretty much

Is the short end of it

[toxic socket]

Nah i dont have any pulls left. Got him maxed out. But we should see tomorrow by some Posts here from Players

[signal spade]

Yea I just meant to answer your question, I'm sure people will come in here outraged though tomorrow

[carmine stone]

Yeah I’m going into tomorrow with 59 pulls left to verify. If it resets to 60, RIP to people thinking it’s only 5 pulls for their Ikora. 💀

[toxic socket]

Of course every Patch some people complain

[carmine stone]

I almost left Kabr at 5 pulls left for T4 but I said screw it not worth the risk.

[signal spade]

Well yea I mean people complained there was an option to trade away a photon for cores that you didn't have to click like it was somehow an attempt on their life

T4 is good tbh

The damage increase is noticeable imo

[carmine stone]

lol I saw that and just refreshed to get a photon as the reward.

[carmine stone]

Yep super happy with it, Kabr-R is one of my mains.

[signal spade]

Ya the event wound up just being like 7 free photons, big w

[carmine stone]

Yep I love it.

[signal spade]

Ya I like new kabr he feels more akin to destiny probably because he is the only titan that got barricades in the end

[twilit thistle]

Netease buffed izi, but why didn't they buff my favorite shotgun, borealis? 🙁

[toxic socket]

Hes the best bulwark and expanse character in my oppinion. Cause the barricade is perfect for 30-40 expanse and the blinding effect is really good to hold some ads Back when they come near the door in bulwark

[signal spade]

Ya the blind is better than like any cc in bulwark for some reason

[toxic socket]

For those 2 modes hes the best i think. Just for cala and the operation Cordon hes mid but thats where other Characters Shine

[signal spade]

He's super good in cordon just too slow for cala

[toxic socket]

Will try him in Cordon in the next Rotation tomorrow. Hopefully we can get the same rewards again

[twilit thistle]

Ok u can have the expanse part of that comment, but i have to bring in @bold thunder (#1 bulwark player)

[carmine stone]

Dig the music, hilarious to use as a shotgun lol

[bold thunder]

generally imo blind is a lot weaker than confine in bulwark

definitely not useless, but I would rank umeko, rossi, and gwynn higher than kabr

[cyan tide]

You also need speed for Cordon so I wouldn't say he's better than Helhest. For expanse he's definitely more comfy, I like not having to worry about cooldowns

[signal spade]

Isn't it 1 1 1 for cordon

[devout void]

no trailer i guess

[bitter estuary]

the balls

[bitter estuary]

erm its actually chaperoni

[cyan tide]

Maybe for later stages, I didn't feel like he was needed for stage 10

[coral stump]

5* Ikora is nice if her abilities are good but please NetEase give use a cool character for March like Saladin or Felwinter idk 😭

[signal spade]

Yea I mean I beat stage ten with a jolder who had to SMG the boss to do damage smh

He makes last boss faster cause there's buffs from the modifiers to amplify your teammates based on your shield damage intake and you dodge the suppression

[sinful totem]

Give us Ana Bray

[cyan tide]

That's why I gave up trying to do it with randoms

[sinful totem]

😭🔥

[cyan tide]

I just want a new rapid fire mythic 😔

[signal spade]

We need the s4 triple banner of cayde Eris and saint xiv

[wind scroll]

What is with your avatar pic? What is going on?👀

[coral stump]

Dual sidearm mythic when because Gwynn is still the only character with that weapon

[wind scroll]

Guys when i start playing amd thought that lord raghadats as lord shaxx

[cyan tide]

Xuan Wei, Gwynn and Ikora (until tomorrow) being the only ones with a particular weapon type

[coral stump]

NetEase if you want easy money release a thundercrash character like shaxx or zavala idk

[sinful totem]

Nah give us a better bubble

Can’t a young guardian have a good bubble in this economy

[coral stump]

Rossi is a legendary character with a bubble (sort of)

[haughty swallow]

his bubble uses TC sound effect lol

[coral stump]

you can shoot through it + it can tank a lot of dmg the only downside is you need to hit an enemy

rossi is a very good character he's a precision tank lol too bad bows are crap

[sinful totem]

I see

[coral stump]

A thing we need asap is new strikes because like D2 strikes are 50% of the content if not more

[verbal sluice]

Yes but d2 can actually make the game hard with GMs. Seems like rising can’t as even if your a bot -> if you spent money you are expected to beat every endgame

[cyan tide]

GMs in DR aren't even that difficult

[coral stump]

Yeah DR is a p2w game but the issue is beyond that. One of the core issue of this game is endgame activites are relying on timers so all characters without movement abilities are doomed to be at most mid

[verbal sluice]

Yes but compare it to destiny risings campain GM…..

[twilit thistle]

😭 why does mine have a scope

[coral stump]

like Kabr 5* he's good but he has no movement ability so you can't use him in calamity

[verbal sluice]

I totally agree. Destiny should be hard in the endgame and should not rely on speed running. Especially with the state hh is in

[twilit thistle]

My chaperone is defective, how do i proceed with a refund?

[errant narwhal]

Are we counting Helhest’s drone speed buff as a movement ability

[bitter estuary]

chaperoni with added scope dlc

[coral stump]

NetEase 2026 is your last chance to save this game.... I wish we get more strikes and cool characters. Another issue is the story is too slow omg. It would be cool if we have a story each season with 2 or 3 missions. Even if you add a ton of things into the game I will always find it empty without a story

[fervent dagger]

do we know what weapons the new Ikora would have yet?

(seems like shotguns could be a possibility considering she carried around Invective for all of D1)

[twilit thistle]

dont hate on hellhests. I know one that is carrying everyone below stage 7 today to help the community as a whole

[errant narwhal]

Same as 4* according to leaks

[coral stump]

Technically yes

[errant narwhal]

I’m just mentioning her bc she is the meta and barely has a movement ability

I just wish we got a non speedrun gamemode

mograns without the time limit but it just gets really hard would be a lot of fun

[verbal sluice]

It’s never about the players. It’s JUST THE FING CHARACTER

[fervent dagger]

odd, figured they'd change her up like Kabr

[coral stump]

She will stay meta as long as DR has the same speedruning activities issue. She exists just to help characters without movement abilities 😭 she's a temporary fix 😭

[errant narwhal]

Yeah it makes absolutely zero sense

[errant narwhal]

Even if she didn’t have the movement buff she would be the number 1 character in the game still

[toxic socket]

At least the ning fei era is over.😅 He was just a pain till Helhast came

[coral stump]

Its not over Ning is still everywhere he's the best movement character

[errant narwhal]

Ning fei was more accessible, it was a better meta imo

[stark forge]

ning still more healthy than hh meta tbh

[coral stump]

if you have that 2 charges upgrade he's far more better than Hellhest for movement

[toxic socket]

T6 ning fei was Harder to pull then Helhast t6 cause he shares the Pool with jolder and tan. Helhast was Just a 30 days Banner i think

[errant narwhal]

For movement yeah not for overall times tho

[errant narwhal]

You don’t need t6

And the point is you can always get Ning, you havent been able to get Helhest in months

[twilit thistle]

Yea helhest meta is based on the precision stuff that takes 100% of the skill away from playing her. I hope that gets removed one day. What would they do if they had to aim

I think i have seen nings put out just as much damage as helhest.

[errant narwhal]

If you don’t count the shinka break damage yes he probably does

[stark forge]

in iron bar ?

[pulsar coral]

Ning is actually fun to play!

[coral stump]

Honestly I think Hellhest is a bad character the way her kit is. She's busted just because she can give all buffs needed for any activity but overall her gameplay is slow and boring. When Hellhest was leaked I hoped she could have drone that followed her or something like that

[errant narwhal]

Yeah havent even mentioned that lol, I can’t stand playing HH as someone with her T6

[twilit thistle]

No, it was only 1 ning but it was in Morgan's hunt. There might not be many that can do it, but it is doable.

[errant narwhal]

Her buffs arent what really makes her busted, its her salvo

Auto aim and auto reload increased damage and fire rate is stupid

[stark forge]

ah morgran ning electric chain is very useful

[toxic socket]

And 100% precision DMG

[errant narwhal]

If you take everything from HH but salvo and WM then she still would be meta

[stark forge]

now give that to ikora for a new meta

[coral stump]

Hellhest would be a LOT better if she was rapid fire + drones which follows her instead of still drones

[errant narwhal]

6* Helhest, trust

[coral stump]

I hope one day 😭

[errant narwhal]

I hope Cayde is the first 6* (if we ever get that far into development)

[minor holly]

Bro 6* what are we cooking here

[coral stump]

If we get 6* characters one day it has to be an iconic character I agree

[errant narwhal]

Exotic characters

Its inevitable if the game survives

[coral stump]

4* Ikora = no haircut ---> 5* Ikora = haircut ---> 6* Ikora = no haircut

[toxic socket]

Then the pull Rates would go down and the guarantees needed to be higher.

[errant narwhal]

Itd be a mythic banner with a .01% chance of an exotic or something scummy like that

[coral stump]

Or just a new system like you can get an old featured mythic + a 6* character

[coral stump]

not at the same time btw I imagine something like after 60 pulls you get a mythic and after 90 you get a 6* idk

[toxic socket]

And the pity system? Still with 60 pulls? Thats to low for a high-end character If you look at other gachas

Would love it but i think it would be more Like 100 pulls

[stark forge]

or 3% draw chance with no pity

[twilit thistle]

(note these do have bias, bc i am better at feeding than most helhests, but here it is. My hh is held back by artifacts btw they are horrible)

[toxic socket]

So 600 pulls for t6 and 360 pulls for 5* t6

[indigo solar]

It's gonna be Taniks

With jiggle physics

[coral stump]

I think exotic characters will be released sooner than we imagine. Idk if NetEase will just bring 2 banners at the same time like an old mythic character and a new. I think it fits better if we have a dual banner mythic/exotic

[toxic socket]

Mara Sov in a short Outfit

[coral stump]

I just want to be in S4 for the new campaign and new strikes 😭

NetEase we are starving please feed us

[minor holly]

Legit 🤣

[cyan tide]

6* Ikora is all hair

[bitter estuary]

we love jiggly metal parts

[limber pine]

Saladin prolly first exotic

[errant narwhal]

🔥

[errant narwhal]

Ikora but big footified

[errant narwhal]

3% chance is very high for a high end character on any game

[coral stump]

NetEase bring us Cayde for the 1 year anniversary in August.

[cyan tide]

No pity is the kicker

[twilit thistle]

The fact that we don't have these things is what led me to suspect bungie is actually the reason our season got extended, trailer isnt released, and all the other choices. There were reports that bungie actually wanted to co develop it early on, its possible those talks that stalled are beginning to start up again.

[errant narwhal]

But still 1/33 chance isn’t that bad

I’ve played gachas with lower rates and no pity

Like dokkan when they first introduced a new rarity I think it was like .05% chance no pity

his original rates

[coral stump]

That username lmao

[stark forge]

u mind repeating the facts here ?

[dusk hemlock]

Can't be doing that here

I got a warning for mocking a guy trying to rage bait. Even though I hadn't initiated anything😁

[elder wing]

Why not dm him instead. Before he gets banned

[dusk hemlock]

Thats an option

[dusty spire]

Annoying :/

But yeah Maru can complete expanse, battery to low now so I’ll try complete later.

[rough sedge]

What’s new today?

[elder wing]

Crazy work. While we have maru who needs the avatar

Tomorrow the ops gonna be. Ning hel and maru again

[dusty spire]

Jaren too

Oct / volley insta reloads volley

[indigo solar]

Nooo don't use volley with Jaren

[hallow shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[indigo solar]

Use normal mode and keep the stacks up

Deals way more damage

[sharp talon]

if calamity becomes 2 hh 1 jaren w octant 😂

[dusty spire]

For the spread Shinks?

[indigo solar]

Oh.

[slow sable]

this happens today lol

[dusty spire]

I’d vex but unlikely because lack of void damage

I want to see Umeko

Runners

[twilit thistle]

😂 i am trying so hard to get ppl playing this.

[sharp talon]

yeah, but arbalest maybe?

[haughty swallow]

bruh 😂

[dusty spire]

More so creep dmg, if team don’t clear fast enough everyone’s getting sacked

Arb for Shinks is always a meta

Because imo it’s for them lol but I’ve felt like RC is just overall better?

[sharp talon]

i think they serve different roles kinda

[dusty spire]

Agreed debuffer and dmg

Arb and Umeko stacks the debuff effects?

Umeko HH Maru/ikora ?

[stark forge]

xuan wei hh ikora potential dream team

[indigo solar]

Arby for shields/shinkas, RC for elites/powerful enemies, EotL for bosses

[foggy hemlock]

the furies buffs look really good for tomorrow gonna make the gun worth using over gallows though?

[elder wing]

Nah. Is gonna be rapid so ning has to be there

[elder wing]

Nah I still think gallows is the play there

But then again. Depends on the content you can use both

[thorny frost]

Furies might be used on arc rapid fire using an arc machine gun. If it is solar/void you will most likely have your machine gun as the exotic slot

[errant narwhal]

The acts gonna be rapid?

Ikora is spread aint she

[thorny frost]

It should be spread

[unkempt sigil]

Were getting 60 free rolls

[dusk hemlock]

Like the kabr thingy

Its a re-release so it figures

[indigo solar]

Not a re-release

[tropic swift]

I'll take Cayde-1 🙌

[dusty spire]

Still no trailer ?

Last minute changes

[pulsar anvil]

trailer or no trailer im indifferent, more like i dont care really. Would be nice to have at least a blog post detailing her before release tho

[twilit thistle]

@vast arch r u gonna be able to get on again tonight? Ppl are just now getting on. (I carried alot of teams today trying to keep ppl from quitting. )

[half sky]

Carry me i go afk 😭

[rotund flame]

I prefer the other heavy since I can easily build up the meter for lv 3 summons. But yeah the furies buff does nothing still for her lol

[bitter estuary]

ikora (bald) with ikora (with a lace wig)

[bitter estuary]

why is that gwynn doing less than wolf

[rotund flame]

Question, can I save my todays daily missions for tomorrow? Do they all carry over or only a few? I swear i seen it before.

[twilit thistle]

Embarrassment. I was killing the shinkas bc gwynn wasn't moving fast enough.

[bitter estuary]

some people REALLY be treating the game as something to be played occasionally ngl

just play strikes atp, dont queue in cordon

[twilit thistle]

I focused on the lower levels bc some ppl still need to get thru it and i dont want them to quit

I even got other ppl doing it by hyping what i was doing in casual chat

[bitter estuary]

ah ic fair then

[naive ingot]

That Gwynn doesn't know how to Gwynn....

[bitter estuary]

when the gwynn ain't gwynning

[naive ingot]

Exactly also.... 75 concerto... Really? Wth

[bitter estuary]

bro prolly ran out of mats

and decided to take a month break

[naive ingot]

Or more...

[twilit thistle]

Im hoping that bungie is getting thru to netease, and they are starting to listen to what they say. If netease had just listened to bungie and let them co develop, this game would be doing alot better. While bungie isnt the greatest, they know how to drip feed better than netease (and make the game feel like a destiny game).

[steady rain]

Hi
Whats the Best mythic rocket launcher?

[bitter estuary]

i... don't know

hon2 is nice but the 200% boost is just impact damage, not blast, THOUGH bellowing giant might be a good contender for best mythic rl

[twilit thistle]

if you wait @indigo solar will eventually show up (thats who does all the testing for those things)

[steady rain]

I have a bellowing giant with the god roll but idk wich is the Best of the 3
I been using two-tail fox in my ikora but I hate using the current mythic gl and wanted to use drill and mythic rocket

[limber furnace]

Is the update out?

[bitter estuary]

in 12 hours

[limber furnace]

Or in 3 hours

[limber furnace]

Auch , long time

Time to sleep then

Gn chat

[bitter estuary]

night

[tight talon]

The game would have died on release /s

[flint aurora]

Overall, the auto loading/poly arc launcher has the best performance if you’re looking for consistency. Aggressive frames have always felt good to use

[vast arch]

Yeah I'm gonna hop on in a few minutes

[south cargo]

Netease paid 100 mill for the license bungie isn’t involved with the game

[signal spade]

be thankful if this were bungie developing it we wouldnt have even gotten patch notes and tomorrow the kabr banner wouldve ended but ikora wouldnt be there

then they'd send out a CM to say 'we're listening we'll do better'

then do that like 50 more times

[south cargo]

Net ease have done everything to stunt growth of the game

[signal spade]

yea i mean you have to assume its intentional at this point, its either theyre letting the game fizzle so they can soft relaunch s4 with all their changes or they hate the game and want it to die

giving us 2 characters for free points to the first one

if it were cash out mode they wouldnt be letting us stockpile all these mats and currencies

[vast arch]

I am praying we come back strong in S4 🙏

[south cargo]

They made a game that isn’t fun to watch so videos and streams get no views and they made the game have a content drip made to make people quit

[signal spade]

plus we're confirmed getting 2 strikes a raid and a new set of gauntlet ops, this games also really painful right now for new players

'can i get jaren???' - no .... ok /logs out

[twilit thistle]

Prolly bungie doing it, like ive been saying.

[south cargo]

Forcing requirements for the endgame with specific characters is awful

[signal spade]

doing what they cant do anything

[tropic swift]

Can't wait for S4. New Campaign, New RSR Area and more.
Still wish Wolfs Missions were replayable like every other character 🤨

[signal spade]

bungies legit useless right now d2 is in shambles the best thing that can happen for destiny is this game being good so the franchise keeps some momentum

they better hope marathon does even remotely well or they'll write books for decades about how mismanaged that studio was

[sinful totem]

Rising is its own entity tho atp

[south cargo]

d2 to last as long as it has is impressive

[sinful totem]

Everyone knows Bungie doesn’t have their hand in it

Ok but fr tho

Where is the FREEKORA trailer at??

[south cargo]

they not even releasing a trailer thats how much they want to not advertise the game

[vast arch]

I heard they're gonna try this new kind of trailer where you get to actually play in the trailer. We should have it in about 12ish hours

[signal spade]

destiny doesnt do their trailers for some of their content til its literally in the game already, could just be tomorrow so people dont see free character trailer, log in, and see its not there

[glacial elk]

Does anyone on here play on the EMEA server? I’m trying to get past master 1 but the randoms I run with are slightly too slow. I can’t seem to get above 385k. I’d love some help!!!

[sinful totem]

Ainnoway

[south cargo]

calamity solo is impossible i got 340k at best solo

matching kabr's every time who do no damage

matching people saying umeko is trash when i hit top damage every run

[vast arch]

how do some of these players even end up in these ranks

I shouldn't have 70% damage with T1 Jaren when we have a T6 Jaren and T6 HH

[sinful totem]

Whale = good player?

I think not

[vast arch]

nope

[south cargo]

yeah me t4 umeko out damageing t6 jaren and helhests actually impossible to get promoted from expert unless im in promotion zone which i am atm

lfg so dead also i cant even find a team

[sinful totem]

Do you need a pack

[twilit thistle]

This is the problem with calamity. It means someone was carried, and hasn't tried to get promo since (bc they cant get carried). Probably a ning main, all of the bad ning mains have 0 patience. If you even Q with the wrong character they leave before you switch. IMO it should be like cordon 1-10 for the lower ranks.

[south cargo]

yeah if its active

[vast arch]

I actually started switching to the character I plan on running before queueing for that exact reason lmao

[glacial elk]

True

Is there anyone who is on the EMEA servers who wants to run?

[quaint orbit]

In my master 1 zone, 382k I got solo queue has me in promotion zone lol

[twilit thistle]

I keep around a sub 60k xuan wei to get them to do it. I don't want people that aren't confident enough in themselves (90% of the ning mains fit this description)

[vast arch]

you must have lucked out with teammates

[quaint orbit]

Yeah had two t6 HH that were decent. Paired with my t6 Jaren

[south cargo]

izi buff soon which will be nice

[glacial elk]

My problem as much as I try I can’t get above 385k I would like to try for a 2x kill

On the boss

[late thistle]

what rank

[glacial elk]

I’m master 1

[abstract cedar]

oh new ikora has hair now?

[bitter estuary]

yes

[south cargo]

why didnt they give her a different loadout, gl rocket is just lazy

gl lmg

[verbal crow]

I haven’t played since helhest released and I’m crazy underleveled what do I even do for more power

[south cargo]

expanse and lvl artifacts up

[scenic wigeon]

Fr lmg would make up the damage gap of thr lgl

[dusk hemlock]

You give an obscene amount of money and buy pinnacle and pull characters and then try to do expanse and chaos for artifact

[south cargo]

what power are you?

anyone here wanna help me get into expert 2 then a promotion score in expert 2

[haughty swallow]

hh or jaren? I'm in expert 1 promo

[cosmic heron]

My issue with calamity is the good players only seem to play the first couple days, I've carried 5 people to expert 2 now but can't get into promotion zone because I cant find other good teammates. I'm fine staying at expert 2 but it is definitely frustrating never being able to find good teammates unless I play on refresh day

[south cargo]

well both

im in promo also just wanna try getting promoted

[karmic ore]

meow

[south cargo]

chat died from the meow

[bitter estuary]

balls

[dusk hemlock]

Balls

[glacial elk]

Balls

[limber pine]

Wein

[dusk hemlock]

You ruined it

[limber pine]

Good

[dusk hemlock]

Balls

[twilit thistle]

[dusk hemlock]

Golden balls

[limber pine]

Keep chat dead til we get a trailer

[south cargo]

yeah they should release a trailer so we can see the character we know is coming out

the trailer would basically fix the game

honestly id watch the trailer for 7hrs straight

[dusk hemlock]

Lol

Bare minimum for a gatcha game honestly.

[twilit thistle]

||there wont be a trailer, 90% sure bungie doenst want them to release one bc of marathon. D2 also had their season extended. Bungie has creative oversight btw, im 100% sure that ikora's hair is from bungie. Not everything is netease's fault.||

[south cargo]

bungie are not involved with this game

[dusk hemlock]

Marathon has been making good progress but I dont understand why they choose to abandon ship on one project over the the current stuff

[south cargo]

netease paid for the license thats it

[glacial elk]

True

[south cargo]

100 mill to use the IP

[dusk hemlock]

I miss the feeling of D1. If a game ever gives me that feeling again ill give the company every dollar I own.

[twilit thistle]

Bungie’s role is officially described as providing "oversight and approvals." Especially if it is related to lore, that is publicly known. Note that not everything is known to the public. Also note that its not doing very well, and netease could be reconsidering the decisions they made (refusing bungie's desire to co-develop it)

[south cargo]

bungie has approved alot by the looks of it and their oversight is clearly seen in the content drip

[twilit thistle]

If marathon is either doing really really good, or nobody plays it, bungie may try and propose a deal to co-develop. Right now, I know they cant handle it, d2, and marathon at the same time tho (which would happen if it is split 50-50 between d2 and marathon, because marathon does okay and simply requires more work put into it)

[south cargo]

need a jaren for calamity

anyone wanna join

[pulsar coral]

what server and rank?

[karmic ore]

calamity is too difficult

[flint aurora]

I have an Ikora

[thorny frost]

Always interesting to see how IP owners can have an influence over the developers. Can’t speak for this game but another game I use to play, DMC POC, Capcom literally has told them “no fire Vergil”, and they also made them change an animation for a skill to… which led to that unit losing some damage and a huge thing followed. It can be hard to tell the line between license holder and IP owner decisions.

[twilit thistle]

I truly think bungie is salty they didnt get to co-develop. I am too tbh, netease can clearly make content, but it just isnt the right content.

[sinful totem]

Bungie can’t even handle their own destiny so why would netease want them to have their hands on rising…

[signal spade]

lmao agreed

[sinful totem]

Yall chatting ngl

[signal spade]

lets get the portal in rising

then itll really go eos

[bitter estuary]

insane how i've not done expanse 31~40

might do it now

[signal spade]

nothing was stopping bungie from just making a full mobile game on their own, instead they chose to take their entire sandbox team and throw them on an extraction shooter not a single person asked for

[bitter estuary]

is arc expanse hard or the boss is annoying unless you have a t6 helhest

[signal spade]

t0 kabr is >>> all expanses

you just walk in and put down a shield and everything dies

[cyan tide]

It's the servitor, pretty easy if you know the strat

[bitter estuary]

i would but im prolly saving my mats for ikora, then i'll decide

[signal spade]

you dont have a scout leveled?

oh you mean the actual relic mats

[thorny frost]

They ramped up damage on arc side just to give more use for Kabr

[bitter estuary]

i have a maxed fang and tl (almost maxed out lassi too)

[signal spade]

oh i see yea idk helhest better for speed naturally but its def just easier on kabr

servitors rly annoying and tanky

[bitter estuary]

welp here i go i guess, t0 helhest run

[cyan tide]

Honestly I don't mind that way of shilling characters, it's still possible to clear it with Helhest but it's just comfier to use Kabr

[bitter estuary]

they are trying to make the f2p/low spender have a hard time

[thorny frost]

I don’t mind easier, makes me have to pay attention more.

[bitter estuary]

but idk kabr R with scouts is rlly nice

i need symmetry maxed

but im scared next bp weapon is meta

god i hate this

[thorny frost]

Kabr 2.0 is F2P tho, probably more have him built now. But really it is just the normal “expanse for newest unit”. Wouldn’t be surprised if this modifier is used for all future Defense unit release.

[signal spade]

truth being better than ttf would be insane it would need to have the craziest multipliers

esp cause there really isnt a mode right now where tracking is going to matter, combat spaces are so tiny

[pulsar coral]

More people would roll for Kabr is HH wasn’t dumb broken

[pulsar coral]

Bro run Arby. It feels amazing lol

[thorny frost]

Didn’t it have more ammo than most rocket launchers per reload? Depending on how her weapon mastery works that could be enough to make it useful for her.

[bitter estuary]

fair

[signal spade]

yea if it has like 3 in the mag or something itll be good

[lapis swallow]

Furies III getting damage buff still not going to help Estela sadly when she relies faster stacks from faster firerate guns to upgrade her summons

Might only be useful to 4* Kabr

[signal spade]

only thing thats helping estela is making her summons take 99% reduced AOE damage

[bitter estuary]

new stuff

[lapis swallow]

Ah yes, expiring upgrade mats 🥀

[bitter estuary]

i thought it was a joke but oh well

[pulsar coral]

These two is all you need. Void will be taken care with Arby

[thorny frost]

It feels like an attempt to make primary Exotics a little more enticing. Till we can’t have Heavie ammo for the majority of the stage I don’t see most units favoring primary exotics tho.

[signal spade]

idk you just do what you did with kabr and make their mastery scale disproportionately with primaries

[bitter estuary]

im taking a break on 36 i think wow i need water to lock in

[lapis swallow]

We won't be getting a new mythic LGL isn't it?

[thorny frost]

Yea that is the only way to really do it.

[bitter estuary]

is 39 annoying

[thorny frost]

Or make a stage with less enemies and bulkier mobs so we burn through it and can’t replenish it easily.

[signal spade]

idk i feel like all of them are annoying if you dont have a barricade

[bitter estuary]

ok

[thorny frost]

39 was the floating servitor who keeps flying back if memory serves.

[lapis swallow]

I'mma wait later after the maintenance to spend my pinnacle. Would be wasteful now

[signal spade]

yea you want the xp on the new battle pass not this one

[pulsar coral]

I know! I was wondering that. Let me show you

[bitter estuary]

oh wait yeah its the same as 21~30 lol

[cyan tide]

That one was pretty chill with Kabr but a nightmare with Helhest lol, so many things can one shot you

[thorny frost]

No clue why I wrote floating servitor when they all float XD

[bitter estuary]

i think looking at my friendlist they seem to be stuck at 40

[pulsar coral]

It’s because my first mod on lockdown doesn’t match the mythic roll. I never noticed lol

[signal spade]

ive started to strongly dislike ensured yields

[pulsar coral]

This stage made me stop playing HH and switch to team Kabr

[thorny frost]

Easy way to handle 40 is to get up on the ledge after the second phase, ran out of heavy ammo some how so I just sniped with bow safely.

[signal spade]

does nothing til you reload and most mobs dont require a reload to kill so its just slower to proc it than to shoot stuff

[twilit thistle]

Convert to the cult of lassi.

[signal spade]

i have a lassi i like just not the patience to run crota for the 60 mods to dismantle to upgrade the lassi to mw

[pulsar coral]

Fixed it 🤙🏻

Rapid fire boost on these weapons feels great!

[bitter estuary]

+10 hurts so much because you need 8 instead of 4 like what??

[twilit thistle]

oh u gotta get bear approaches with rate of fire. Thats the reason you cant.

oh

[signal spade]

ill upgrade it eventually

[twilit thistle]

yea that too. Did u get the other ones done right? idk why even upgrade the arc one its actually the worst gun ive ever used. Borealis>fang

[lapis swallow]

Only the new exotic Truth the new weapon after maintenance right? No new mythics?

[signal spade]

i hate fang but lassi def feels better on umeko than lockdown

[bitter estuary]

doesn't fang have higher damage per hit

damage per hit, not dps

its neglegible anyways

[signal spade]

maybe but ensured yields being terrible to proc prob makes it not matter

[finite gazelle]

Should I lowkey just invest in two tailed for mythic ikora

[signal spade]

id wait til we find out the 3 catalysts on truth

[twilit thistle]

heard lassi has less aim assist, so if ur on pc u might not notice but mobile you will notice.

[finite gazelle]

I mean I'm not getting 3rd catalyst on truth like ever since I don't spend

Unless I wanna wait over a month

[pulsar coral]

Lassi just feels like a weird gun to me

[signal spade]

yea prob fine to send the ttf then

lassi feels like the crosshair bounces a lot

[twilit thistle]

As the #1 lassi user in the world, this is a skill issue. I never ads and i get crits 100% of the time on pc/mobile.

It took a very long time to master tho

[severe mason]

Was finally able to do expanse 40 on Finalla

[twilit thistle]

(like probably 3,000 total rounds or so into chaos being that long time)

[thorny frost]

Congrats, the only other player I have heard doing that was Tangibility. Probably others have too but that is definitely dedication to run with her.

And that wasn’t even this cycle of expanse tho

[severe mason]

39 was rough but it went fairly smooth aside from that.

[south cargo]

i have no impact characters at lvl so i had use estela for that side

[pulsar coral]

Jolder?

[bitter estuary]

40 is killing me inside imma play something else first

😭

[severe mason]

I normally do that but I have trouble when it’s the 3 floor level that you have to throw the orbs.

[twilit thistle]

How? Which side lol

[bitter estuary]

arc

i completed solar because jaren somehow wipes everyone

[twilit thistle]

Who is the boss

[primal stump]

heloow 🙂

[bitter estuary]

servitor

[primal stump]

morning guys

[bitter estuary]

why is you marked as spammer

[twilit thistle]

Don’t shoot, and boss won’t shoot. Run to the back, not quite to the 3 orbs. There is a ledge you can get on. Start it there, u can just sit there and kill the boss, and not get hit. Have to leave once for the 2nd orb.

[golden spade]

Yooo. Should i buy the battle pass tokens before reset or does it disappear?

[twilit thistle]

Buy

[sinful totem]

Or just

Camp behind Kabr barricade and face tank everything

[bitter estuary]

im struggling on the 3rd orb

i got him low enough but i keep dying because i ran out of ammo (t0 hel moment)

[rain tinsel]

How's every one tonight doing

[twilit thistle]

Do the 3 servitors shield? I think if u try and refuse to give los they don’t even do it. Also if u wait, I think they stop and forget.

[sinful totem]

What character and what power level

[bitter estuary]

does moving as far as possible work

like the 1st orb strat

i alr killed ads and shinka there so it should be fine

[bitter estuary]

74.4k, t0

[signal spade]

anyone in master with a helhest wanna do a quick calam ops i just need to help a packmate not get demoted from master 2 and master 2 scores rn are laughable

[twilit thistle]

You shouldn’t be killing the shinka hiding up in that ledge. Shouldn’t be touching ads. Not on HH

[sinful totem]

Not in master

[twilit thistle]

That’s a waste of ammo, which u need to conserve.

[grand sand]

Have they showed the kit for the new ikora?

[thorny frost]

If needing to conserve ammo while on that spot you can also stall between salvos. Her damage boost from weapon mastery only lasts for 6 seconds after salvo

[sinful totem]

Officially no

They put ingame on the maintenance note that she’s gonna be LGL RL tho

So weapons are basically confirmed to be the same

And truth is officially gonna be the battle pass exotic

Truth = exotic rocket launcher from d1 and d2 that specializes in insane tracking and has a “unique” perk where the rockets explode in proximity to the target

[pulsar coral]

T0 Kabr could do it 😉

[remote grove]

Would be cool if its the same. Prolly just gunna use my max drill tho

[sinful totem]

Yeah I maxed my drill out too

It’s satisfying to use and works on maru too, no brainer investment

[bitter estuary]

its only 71.9k but t2 🥀

[sinful totem]

The walls help you tank

[remote grove]

I only have like 20 L.E saved atm, at least theres free 10 pulls to be had

[sinful totem]

You just gotta play more reserved maybe

[twilit thistle]

Kabr will get more popular over time I bet. Rn he’s dogwater tho so not many ppl use him. It’s bc of the plague of jade eol users that have no idea what they are doing and use it to access content they shouldn’t

If those users go away, he’d be much more valuable

[bitter estuary]

erm... i have 3 pack mates with t6 kabr's and they're all good, i know his potential lol

[sinful totem]

He’s better with total lockdown or symmetry no

[remote grove]

Total lockdown/ arby

[sinful totem]

Ah ok

I’m using contravene on him cus exotics are expensive AF

[bitter estuary]

symmetry is only good for sustained assuming you dont already have arby/rc built

[sinful totem]

Haven’t invested in Arby’s yet

[remote grove]

RC is good too ofc

[bitter estuary]

THAT BEING SAID take that with a grain of salt

ill max it out by the end of the season

[remote grove]

Arby is just nice cause of how universal it is

[bitter estuary]

im building ssb, symmetry and the new rl next act

[twilit thistle]

Yea for kabr it’s Arby, for existing hh owners it’s RC.

[remote grove]

Even with just 2 cata bands arby one shots big mobs

[bitter estuary]

i think i won't have enough mats for 4 unless i put all my monthly bm tokens on exotic infusion cores

[remote grove]

They buffed furies guys estella is so back

Not cope

[bitter estuary]

they buffed sweet business

[finite gazelle]

I've been running symmetry/end of the line on kabr and it works fine

[twilit thistle]

Not enough 😭 they did not buff it enough.

Hier>Furies

[remote grove]

Heir apparent buff is still prob better

[thorny frost]

Furies will only be used MAYBE during arc rapid fire

[pulsar coral]

Im always top damage in cal ops with Kabr sooo

[bitter estuary]

del2 exists though

[remote grove]

I Should try becoming an attal main with max arby

[thorny frost]

I think I would prefer machine gun to counter arc shields in high end content

[thorny frost]

Arby damage throws off Damage numbers so bad XD

[pulsar coral]

Good!

[thorny frost]

It lies! Lol

[pulsar coral]

I rarely run out of ammo with Arby, it refills plus i usually use to pop shields then switch. Depends on the enemy. I love it

Crazy enough, I find myself playing more Kabr then Jaren

[thorny frost]

O no it is good, just saying it over kills precision shinkas shield and just distorts the numbers.

[sinful totem]

What makes it universal

[sinful totem]

What was the buff

[remote grove]

Its just good at breaking shields

[pulsar coral]

Kabr with fang and Arby felt great on cordon ops because of the shield modifier that block damage of using a different element type

[pulsar coral]

Tomorrow I’ll have Kabr T6 with the mythic choice 🥲

The few the proud lol

[south cargo]

not at lvl

[thorny frost]

Not needing to reload symmetry could make it semi consistent for some content (Morgan’s hunt? When shields aren’t as big).

[south cargo]

yeah 2 mags of gallows is really tough on shinkas

[bitter estuary]

i wished cat band 1 and 2 was combined and the last one was like a refund thing

or a fire rate buff? idk

[vernal barn]

Prob dumb question but how do i get the mouse to get back to controlling the camera on the mumu emulator

well now i cant even control movement with the keyboard

[signal spade]

alt

[thorny frost]

I don’t think it really needs a refund mechanic as switching to alternate fire reloads the entire mag already.

Just switch before you start the reload animation

[vernal barn]

that just brings up my tasks

[signal spade]

did you change your binds 😮

[vernal barn]

nope

all default

i just installed this like 5 min ago

[signal spade]

whats that look like

top right the little keyboard icon

[vernal barn]

cant put images but it looks just like that

[signal spade]

id restart mumu sometimes it does weird stuff. alt is supposed to free your cursor. hit m maybe the map gets messed up sometimes

[vernal barn]

ok i think i found the issue

it seems like it breaks the mouse and movement when i talk to someone. i just spoke to the guy that does the card game tutorial

i spoke to him again and it went back to controlling the camera and movement

[twilit thistle]

Give it time. This is not about kabr being bad, it’s about players using him being 99% trash players

[twilit thistle]

It was wasn’t enough.

[sinful totem]

But what is it tho

Just damage wow

[tight talon]

[twilit thistle]

esc?

[tight talon]

Literally waiting for a DOT weapon on Pulse or NTTL so Heir can be outclassed

[twilit thistle]

Or: Make hier arc bc why not.

[tight talon]

Why

[twilit thistle]

why not?

it insta buffs furies

[south cargo]

Pulses need a buff in general all primaries need a buff

[sinful totem]

Lgls are good

[twilit thistle]

not all. auto rifles/pulse/fusion primaries are dogwater tho

[south cargo]

Yeah I guess, last word is probably the best primary and that’s is really noticeable

[sinful totem]

Also exotic so hard to gauge properly

[sinful totem]

Fusions are probably worse than bows

Bows at least have range

[south cargo]

In general primary’s are only used as a final resort they should be at least decent

[sinful totem]

Fusions are just like ew

[tight talon]

Exotic if Free and in Heavy. Then good.

Exotic if paid and in primary. See option 1

[sinful totem]

Some people say octant is cracked on Jaren

[twilit thistle]

My question to the devs: Why are there so many sniper rifles/scout rifles?

[sinful totem]

I haven’t made that dive yet

[south cargo]

Jaren is really nice because he can use a primary consistently without detrimenting his gameplay

[thorny frost]

At third band it is like 40% damage increase if I am figuring this right. Honestly more then I anticipated as most people will say they can’t nerf it

[tight talon]

It is, tho we need Arc Impact modifier to make full use of him

[sinful totem]

It’s the most common weapon on most characters? Idk good question

[lapis swallow]

I'm maining Octant, you need Arc dmg modifiers on the artifacts

[sinful totem]

Interesting

[south cargo]

Octant is better damage but when you’re out of octant his gameplay loses a lot af value which is why people run last word

[sinful totem]

Tan2, Umeko - sniper scout
Kabr 2.0 - scout rifle

That’s all I got rn

[thorny frost]

Scout and shot guns are most used weapons

[jagged osprey]

The people yearn for fusion buff + Vex Mythoclast

[twilit thistle]

As an umeko main, I hate all these scouts too. I haven't spent 10 on a single primary exotic scout. Note that i am 27k proficiency, and was no scoping entire stages of chaos earlier too. I just cant see how the exotic heavy is ever going to be worse than a primary, even for kabr, when its the hardest content in the game.

[sinful totem]

I just leveled up Polaris lance cus it felt the nicest early on

[south cargo]

I’m an umeko main too

[sinful totem]

Happens to work well for tan, umeko and now kabr2.0 so I don’t feel like it’s a waste

[thorny frost]

Most others I believe have 2, and then fusion/side arms have one unit. O I guess LGL has three starting tomorrow as I was already figuring in new Ikora

[south cargo]

The void scout or polaris

[sinful totem]

Polaris

The void scout is nice for shields / void match artifact + if you have izi levels up

[south cargo]

My umeko is stacked people say she sucks then I out damage them

[sinful totem]

40k is a great mythic sniper tho

[thorny frost]

We would need a game mode shift to really push primaries. A mode where it wasn’t as easy to get blocks

[south cargo]

Yeah 40k when solo izi when you have a helhest with comms

[sinful totem]

A mode where HH is banned

[twilit thistle]

If symmetry was paired with anything but eol id say maybe.

[sinful totem]

What mods do you run on 40k

[south cargo]

Symmetry is too awkward to use

[south cargo]

Either fraternity/trink with searing

[sinful totem]

Them be perks

[thorny frost]

Doesn’t need to be banned, just less mobs. She needs to kill 16 mobs to create a brick, or else she only recovers 1 data per 15 seconds (or was it 12?). If you throw 10 mobs in a stage with decent hp that can’t be spiked down and having to deal with one at a time she will not be able to maintain the ammo.

[south cargo]

Long range damage boost, reload boost and boss boost

[sinful totem]

So not mag size?

[south cargo]

Nah

[twilit thistle]

Oh HH needs the auto precision removed.

[sinful totem]

Reload is better?

[south cargo]

Searing caps at x5

So 2 bullets will be wasted damage

Last bullet in mag does a lot so the faster you unload the mag the better

[twilit thistle]

If HH mains had to aim, and actually hit the target in the crit, youd see a significant drop in dmg across the board. Also remove the ability to auto load and have extra ammo generate while shooting.

[sinful totem]

So frat or trink in that column, lemme see if I can fix this up now

@south cargo ?

[thorny frost]

As they are doubling down on assisted precision hit (Kabr gets mini version too) I don’t see them removing hers. Auto load definitely is over kill when she also gets faster shoot speed. Not that her 2 main exotic heavies don’t have some form of reload mechanic already built in.

[sinful totem]

So she basically gets to double dip on auto reloads

[thorny frost]

While her weapon mastery is active she basically never reloads linears

[twilit thistle]

When a character is outputting 2-3x dmg more than the rest, what I suggested would be a light nerf. I wouldnt be shocked if they just removed salvo, or the lvl 3 drone, or something awful

[sinful totem]

Or just buff the other characters and their respective gear

It’s a gacha game right, so we really care about nerfing instead of buffing stuff

[thorny frost]

Removing salvo is inpossible without redoing her entirely (her whole kit is based around it in the end). Lvl 3 drones aids in damage a little, but again only whole salvo/weapon mastery is active.

[twilit thistle]

Ik i just dont know what they would do that would be as dramatic and easy to explain in a sentence lol

[thorny frost]

Would find this amusing “we are increasing all units damage by ~ 10% in relativity to HH and also increasing enemy HP by 10%~

What they actually do, reduce HH damage by 9%

[south cargo]

Yeah

[twilit thistle]

technically they can go nuclear tho, i read the tos. They could remove HH if they wanted to, (not that they would)

[south cargo]

Izi next update tho is gonna be insane

[sinful totem]

I should probably grinded more exotic cores

[sinful totem]

That would kill the game

[twilit thistle]

which is why they didnt do it

[sinful totem]

Removing a beloved character… that people dumped money into?

Instant EOS

[twilit thistle]

lol but if we get a big player spike its gonna be a big nerf trust me. They wont bc ppl would quit.

[thorny frost]

I personally want to see what a different game mode would do to HH superiority. Right now everything is based on spike damage, nothing can take a hit and we get sent hordes of things. Outside of Salvo her damage really seems to drop off and she doesn’t have a ton in regards to skill damage. A mode that goes more towards longevity (where defense units and ability based units would excel) without hordes of things I don’t think she would do as well in.

[south cargo]

They made helhest on purpose to ruin the game everything they do is on purpose

[thorny frost]

~outside of salvo and with no heavy ammo~

[south cargo]

Her aimbot makes her easy to use and easy to max her insane damage

[sinful totem]

Confine

[south cargo]

Remove the aimbot she’d be in a more balanced spot

[thorny frost]

But all her insane damage is based on heavy weapon basically. I wonder how well every limited unit would do if stuck with just primary weapons.

[twilit thistle]

yea i need to record ts I see in high end content and send it to u tac. The aim is being abused. Its how they get speeds, not dmg.

[obtuse folio]

waiting for a support that reduces fireteam relic/special cooldowns

[worldly hazel]

Is she out yet

[south cargo]

If people had to aim her insane damage would be hindered

[twilit thistle]

tbh i can do it i just dont have artifacts to get dmg. I can literally just rc everything with 0% effort.

[south cargo]

You can crit stuff that isn’t looking at you

[worldly hazel]

Is new Ikora today or tomorrow

[sinful totem]

Tomorrow morning at around 9am EST

[twilit thistle]

I can crit 3 stuffs that arent looking at me, while i wear a blindfold. It crits the shinka, and does dmg to the shinka in the same round.

[thorny frost]

O yea the aim assist is bad and I don’t disagree, I just know they have now added it to a smaller degree to Kabr, and one weapon. I need to relook at which weapon that was tho.

[bitter estuary]

ok i did expanse 40

LMAO servitor has a max range so no matter how far i shoot it from it wont target at me

[thorny frost]

It crits servitor who isn’t looking at you XD it is stupid. Basically if they are in site they are crit even if impossible

[sinful totem]

What does expanse 40 reset you to next cycle

[bitter estuary]

also thanks balls @twilit thistle i now secured 20 refactor mats

(i wasted it on hh because balls)

[sinful totem]

Shout out Himothy

[sinful totem]

HH is good!

[bitter estuary]

should out to dillothy

ballothy

[bitter estuary]

real

[cyan tide]

It always resets to 10

[sinful totem]

Good to know

[cyan tide]

They should make it so clearing expanse 40 auto clears 11-20 next cycle

[bitter estuary]

servitor is 1 hit kill but wow its pathetic that it has a max range so you can essentially snipe from far away

[twilit thistle]

U lucky it aint the one i usually main, LucyFur. (cuz the newlights kinda scare me as is)

[inner rose]

😂

[bitter estuary]

wtf name goes hard

my ign is just

noctis

[sinful totem]

Acclaim level 111 soon to be 112+ something

[bitter estuary]

FREE BRIGHT DUST YIPPEE

[sinful totem]

The bright dust isn’t gonna farm itself

🚜

[bitter estuary]

also chat is 80 engrams enough for all decals

[bitter estuary]

the balls

[cyan tide]

Gonna have like 60 bright engrams ready for the new ornaments

[bitter estuary]

oh i have 82 nvm

[twilit thistle]

LMAO no. Unless u mean the seasonal one, cuz i have like 10 of those. The other ones are rarer than gold cuz from testing the rng system has a few bugs. Its worse with the decals.

[bitter estuary]

i’ve had worse luck with shaders ironically

[twilit thistle]

I have like 5 of those, and i already equipped 4

[bitter estuary]

i need your luck 🥺

i have 0 shaders for barathum

(other than the 2 from the raid)