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[pulsar coral]

pew pew pew pew best dialogue to hit the game in weeks wdym😂

[pulsar coral]

I ❤️ Jaren

[dusk quiver]

who

[bitter estuary]

i love balls (ikora)

[twilit thistle]

I like that the top Umeko/jolder/maru/ikora are all the same accounts.

[weak yarrow]

True!!

[storm mural]

Same (not ikora) (basket ball)

[weak yarrow]

any tan-2 chads here?

[bold thunder]

[bold thunder]

Jaren is cool, Jaren's voice line makes me wish my guns worked in Haven

[twilit thistle]

😭

[weak yarrow]

tan-2 cooler though

[bold thunder]

Agreed

Who else can sub 3:30 solo isaakis which is a really important thing to do and not arbitrary at all

[weak yarrow]

how do i get that tan-2 roll? im jealous

role

[bold thunder]

It used to be from an event channel that's been locked since then

[weak yarrow]

nahhhh i cant get it anymore?

[bold thunder]

I think the only way atm is for a mod to give you the role manually

[tropic swift]

Breaking into Chest Room of Break In 😄

[bold thunder]

They really need to add it to the role selection thing

[dusty spire]

Not even but I see players who actually do care about the leaderboard show good things about that particular character since day 1 but are not number 1 because someone can creep by art positioning

[trail fractal]

this game is dying when is the EOS happening??

[karmic ore]

tomorrow

[bold thunder]

It already EoSed, you're living in the matrix

[tropic swift]

Curious..... 🤔

[twilit thistle]

Technically I am general 50 something tan 2 😂

[trail fractal]

ik ur prob right running the pit again for calam feels like im dying on the inside

[candid tusk]

can you believe this negative nancy? this game is flourishing like the AAA game it is

[bitter estuary]

this is not made by a indie company so no

[trail fractal]

YOU'RE A DOOMER BOOMER IK U ARE

[bitter estuary]

this is not black beacon or tribenine (another gacha game as an EXAMPLE)

[trail fractal]

so its white beacon?

[bold thunder]

He's ironically disagreeing with you because he's mad he got ganged up on last time he was the one to rant about EoS here

[candid tusk]

I have informed my fellow brethren that I am a reformed doomer and now believe in the power of positivity to push this game to its limits 🙏

[bitter estuary]

the balls

[short locust]

Here's a guy with some free time

[bitter estuary]

posting ikora splash art in shadowshaper again idk

[weak yarrow]

anyone know when gwynn returns

[twilit thistle]

🥹 tell us brother Yliche, what is it you enjoy most about the game?

[bold thunder]

Aside from definitely not being the next banner, no sadly

[trail fractal]

me and yliche do fishing together always

[bitter estuary]

ikora fishing

[karmic ore]

i enjoy logging off

[weak yarrow]

why not?

[trail fractal]

we sit in haven and tell new lights this game blows balls

[karmic ore]

that’s the move

[bold thunder]

We know the next character is almost definitely 5* Ikora, but we know basically nothing about the banners past that (even whether they'll be new or reruns)

[candid tusk]

My favorite of this game is when I spend $400 on t6 Kabr so that I can stand in Haven with this character proudly 🙏

[bitter estuary]

blows balls yet is the least slopfest of a game on mobile atm 🥀

[trail fractal]

hit up bingo for calam carries tho 100$ for expert 2 score

[bold thunder]

They originally claimed there eventually would be reruns I believe, but that was a while ago

[trail fractal]

me and my 75.2k kabr for the win

[karmic ore]

that’s too hard i can’t beat it

[weak yarrow]

is there a way to know what's happening in next seasons? like where do u get that info

[twilit thistle]

😂 thought u were gonna hit me with 404

[trail fractal]

killothy i heard u were being rude to @karmic ore and hes a new light. thats not good for the game

[twilit thistle]

When?

[bold thunder]

I only know the ikora thing because her model is already ingame. Not sure about future season 4 things sorry :/

[candid tusk]

I would appreciate if you would not spoil the release of the new character ahead of time in the main discord chat my friend. My fellow brethren and I look forward to the excitement build-up of the new banner releases.

[bold thunder]

Ngl I thought you blocked me

[weak yarrow]

but where did u find the info about ikora 5*? i also want the info of upcoming stuff

[bold thunder]

@weak yarrow

[weak yarrow]

ah i see

[karmic chasm]

Peak character. Just need one more

[trail fractal]

bingo said this killothy guy said his build wasnt viable for calamity

[weak yarrow]

wat lmao

[candid tusk]

I would never block my good friends in the greatest game ever created. Together, we stand strong! 💪

[karmic ore]

lmao

[weak yarrow]

is there lore of the beef?

[twilit thistle]

The only thing I have ever done that would be rude is refuse to help with Umeko builds, bc i am protesting the power leaderboards.

[trail fractal]

yea stop being happy lil bro

game is dying.

[bold thunder]

Idk not really we "debated" the finances of DR for a bit a couple days ago

It sounded like they got angry with me at the end, but I could very well have been wrong

[candid tusk]

Soon you shall learn the ways of positivity my brother. You will see the return to greatness 🙌

[weak yarrow]

oh i get it, i buy silver all the time!

[bold thunder]

They were speculating about future revenue and I disagreed with some of the fundamentals for their conclusion

Not really a very interesting story lol

[bold thunder]

They're ragebaiting you dw, bingos been here forever

[weak yarrow]

just buy the bundles and the game lives! we're doing great

insert whale GIF

🐳

[cyan ore]

This is the best mobile game I've ever played

I spend every dollar on it that I can to support the devs, they deserve it

[karmic ore]

we have a comedian

[twilit thistle]

@candid tusk I have a challenge for you.

[cyan ore]

I'm not trying to be funny, I love it

[gleaming zephyr]

shloppy said ur right

[twilit thistle]

This is a bot, found in shadow shaper. It’s clearly the next 5 star. Comments @candid tusk ?

[bitter estuary]

ikora ikora ikora

[twilit thistle]

😇

[gleaming zephyr]

ai

ikora never had hair in her lore

[stark forge]

ikora pulling ikora card 🔥

[karmic ore]

when they adding michelle obama

[bitter estuary]

cynthia erivo

[candid tusk]

While I am very ecstatic to get more characters that are POC after the generic Jaren release. I feel bad for my fellow new lights that are not able to be surprised by the new character on release.

[gleaming zephyr]

is this real?????

[twilit thistle]

Yes, it’s in game. Yes, nobody likes it either. It’s a 90s haircut with armor, 0% the ikora we wanted.

[bitter estuary]

yes i mean

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/ikora-rey-destiny-2-nella-davis-edge-of-fate-redfox9-gif-11308654420836794828

[bitter estuary]

play shadowshaper

[twilit thistle]

I hope netease can make a last second change to the hair, at least.

[karmic ore]

silky smooth would be nice

[copper silo]

They need to let me have an ahamkara that flies with me everywhere. Add pets and housing I can change or something. I wanna make them cozy

[sharp talon]

we need morgran as a mythic hero

[empty kettle]

You are not going to see that anytime soon

[stark forge]

use pack den as ur house

[exotic sinew]

She had an Afro I thought

I don’t mind Ikora as next unit but her not having invective as her power weapon is a huge miss

Spread and impact so she’s different from Maru because as of now she’s just Maru with a teleport

[sharp talon]

i feel like shes gonna be really fun based on her kit. kinda like a spread jaren

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar that isn’t actually a bad idea. (Though impossible). It also goes to show the people would pay for things other than winning. (Which is why @ was used. I know you like cosmetics over p2w.)

[exotic sinew]

Nah, maybe if they gave her a shotgun

Teleporting up to the enemy to blast them right after you shot grenade launchers at them is cool

Rocket launchers in this game are weak too, they need a buff all around

[weak yarrow]

i cant wait for gwynn to return am i right gang

[naive ingot]

[twilit thistle]

⬆️

[weak yarrow]

you two both have gwynn? jealous, give me pls

also jealous you guys have those roles, i want tan-2 role i cant get anymore

[naive ingot]

Crowther...

[tropic swift]

Ikora using 2 WWE Belts as shoulder pads.. 😎

[twilit thistle]

Yea that role needs to be set in the discord as an option. Idk how to even change it lmao it’s from a vote for iron melody.

[tropic swift]

I didnt vote.. 🥲

[sharp talon]

she can overflow ammo, reload, etc., on dash. when she gets into her stag protection like state, she stacks much faster. when you're mowing down groups of enemies (stacking even faster because you hit multiple) with your lgl and rocket with a lot of ammo and no reload. and hitting that state again. rinse repeat it sounds very fun. that's how i interpret the kit from what i've read so far. not sure if it will play like that though

[twilit thistle]

If you catch thatdonfc around just ask.

I doubt it would show tho, i think the other ones are higher priority.

[tropic swift]

Ooh will do.. 🫡

[naive ingot]

Nosy unite 😂

[exotic sinew]

Now give her invective and it all would be better

Otherwise I’m just sticking with Maru

[sharp talon]

idk with her kit, shotgun doesnt make sense

[fluid egret]

ikora should launch with witherhoard as seasonal weapon

[exotic sinew]

They need to rework it but it could make sense easily going off what you said

[fluid egret]

or

anarchy!

[exotic sinew]

LGL + Shotgun just seems much more fun to me. I’d use regular Ikora for LGL + RL

[sharp talon]

i think her leaked kit right now even with her weapons is very promising in terms of a unique gameplay loop tbh. just give it a chance i think

[empty kettle]

Anarchy is a heavy grenade launcher

[exotic sinew]

Not only that we her another 4 weeks of precision arc due to Kabr, tired of Helhest running the game lol

[fluid egret]

kitbash anarchy into a rocket launcher

[sharp talon]

not to mention her dashes generates black holes and when you shoot it pulls enemies in and confines them. it just sounds very fun in general

[fluid egret]

that sounds like nova warp

[exotic sinew]

I just can’t. I don’t want to reinvest on a unit that has the same weapon types as another unit I have. My Maru is T4, I see no reason for Ikora if she’s pure spread. If she was spread and impact I would T3+ in a heartbeat

As of now I’m just going to T0 and forget her

[empty kettle]

That could either become the most broken heavy in the game or straight up mid

[fluid egret]

give it lasting impression and the explosion scatters anarchy bolts

[exotic sinew]

And because of Kabr banner being so long I can T0 and save up for the next actual original unit and get it to T2+ for free

[fluid egret]

kabr is actually goated for chaos

[exotic sinew]

They had a chance to drop bad juju and Tolund and make it rapid fire which we haven’t had since Estela aka start of the game

[sharp talon]

if she is as good as my interpretation of her leaked kit, i think maru won't be relevant

[fluid egret]

i think they wont do that since he prob will be an important npc for the eventual crota act

[exotic sinew]

Maru is very good. If they power creep her already, that’s a bad move in itself

[fluid egret]

at most we could get eris

[karmic chasm]

Get in Eris?

[exotic sinew]

Ikora being pure spread and coming out right after Kabr is a bad move altogether and feels lazy. Try to say it’ll be OP or fun all you want, but a LOT of players have said they would like to see Ikora with invective and they go ahead and slap us in the face with a troll Ikora

[sharp talon]

we'll see when she drops on how fun she is

[karmic chasm]

I wish she was impact. Why void spread AGAIN

[exotic sinew]

Money talks, this is going to sell less than Kabr did(free unit), promise

[sharp talon]

if shes bad id be happy with not building another character anyway

[south cargo]

Yeah she needs a different heavy

[exotic sinew]

Just draining. I’m a day 1 player and this doesn’t feel good. If she’s bad, we’re stuck with another repeat character and arc precision for 6 weeks. At least change arc precision off the cycle lol

[south cargo]

Gl and lmg would be great

[exotic sinew]

Make it Solar Impact again, with Void Spread

[fluid egret]

add telesto

[exotic sinew]

That way Gwynn could be played

[fluid egret]

people still plays with gywnn?

[exotic sinew]

There hasn’t been much chance to since the start

[fluid egret]

thought she was powercrept to hell

[naive ingot]

When void impact.... When!!

Though with Octant, can pop spread. So void spread be fine

[exotic sinew]

We’ve been in an arc precision mode for literally 2 and a half months now

[empty kettle]

Soo many characters can do her job but better

[exotic sinew]

When cycles change like this, everyone falls out and in over time

But it hasn’t changed lol

So Helhest has stayed in since she released

[south cargo]

Yeah the expanse restrictions are killing the game forcing only 2 characters for basically 3 months, they got make stuff accessible for every character

[fluid egret]

i personally used kabr more than helhest

even when she's my strongest character lol

either him or jaren

[exotic sinew]

Well when I push overseer I use Helhest. Jaren is my favorite playstyle. Why I wish the new Ikora got Invective.

It’s whatever ima wait to T6 the next rapid fire unit

[south cargo]

I had to do impact 30-40 on Estela because of the restrictions and Ning on the precision side

[exotic sinew]

I like Kabr with Symmetry, maxed it out for that reason

[south cargo]

2 mags of gallows to take down a impact shinka

[exotic sinew]

Can only hope NetEase listens but I doubt they’ll change course. This was probably the plan since the start

[exotic sinew]

Bit rough, did you get the 7:30m clear?

[south cargo]

Time doesn’t matter in the 30-40

I did the regular 20-30 easy, just 30-40 is so respectable

[fluid egret]

impact shinkas are painful

[south cargo]

Not for jaren, it’s been arc precision and solar impact for like several months now

[empty kettle]

Step 1---> lower player expectations. Step 2---> revamp 2 characters and slap a (NEW CHARACTER) sticker on them. Step 3---> make less money for some grand "masterplan"

[bold thunder]

Pretty much only useful for bulwark (and rossi and umeko are usually better for that anyway)

Until we get a shotgun with half decent damage perks she probably isn't seeing the light of day

[hasty ocean]

Btw unlocked the best style for the providence decal it's Clean asf

[south cargo]

Netease isn’t even trying to get the game viewed by people, game has no twitch viewers and videos are apparently restricted to be long for content which is the worst type of video length for viewership

[fluid egret]

she needs a rework, a new shotgun will not revive her since we have Jaren already

[naive ingot]

Me I use Gwynn. And outdamage Jarens still. (Nobody out DPS helhest though)

[bold thunder]

Jaren doesn't have concerto, so his dps is much lower than hers generally

[south cargo]

Most of the top Gwynn’s back in the day only used the shorty with dual loader

[fluid egret]

that's on really specific situations

[south cargo]

Concerto was just for power

[fluid egret]

yeah

jaren already beated her on the shotgun dep since he can reload weps instantly

so you can invest on damage perks instead of reload ones

[bold thunder]

Depends on the content I guess, another problem with her is that sidearms just have far too low damage to consistently kill enemies in light delta stuff like calam

[south cargo]

Jaren has the best primary and the best ability game play

He’s also unkillable

[bold thunder]

But if you can get stacks for concerto it's worth using

[naive ingot]

Pew pew pew heh

[fluid egret]

also some artifacts makes the fanfire revolver do a lot of damage

on top of giving bonus damage to weapons

[south cargo]

Yeah jaren even at t1 is one of the best if not the best

Impact character

[fluid egret]

also other artifacts making you basically inmune thanks to the healing and overshield

[south cargo]

Him being able to use a primary effectively gives a lot of value most primaries are useless

[bold thunder]

For shinka stunning, yeah jaren is probably the best impact

If a dps shotgun were added to the game, gwynn still probably wouldn't be used for that

[fluid egret]

last word goated

[south cargo]

Best primary by a mile

[bold thunder]

She would likely become meta for things like crota though, since the base dps for shotguns (ignoring perks and such) is comparable to snipers/linears

[fluid egret]

i just wish i could get copies of last word

i have all catalysis but no catalyst

[celest robin]

If I don’t have Jaren, who’d be best to beat the solar singularity through lvl 40?

[twilit thistle]

You dont even have t0 jaren?

[celest robin]

He hasn’t been available since I started playing. Begun beginning this year

[karmic ore]

hel with arb

[south cargo]

I did it on Estela but it’s really on jaren that can

[celest robin]

Dang. So unobtainable heroes only. Good system netease

[sharp talon]

you can do it with wolf

[candid tusk]

i'm sure wolf could clear

[south cargo]

Wolf can

[sharp talon]

it wont be easy though

[bold thunder]

Me neither :/

[celest robin]

What’s best for the impact shankas? Weapon wise for wolf

[sharp talon]

his exotic gl

[stark forge]

smart bomb

[bold thunder]

Took a break between helhest and kabr

[sharp talon]

wolf sig 1 can debuff impact shinka. use super grenades to help pop it faster

[celest robin]

I’ll try it out. Thanks yall

[south cargo]

Precision arc can be done on a few characters

Because you’re not forced to kill the precision shinkas

[celest robin]

Did the arc easily with Kabr 5*

[south cargo]

I did it on Ning

[celest robin]

Btw has there been any info on when any of the 5 limited heroes will be ran back?

[thorny frost]

I have cleared all impact expanses typically with Jolder.

[celest robin]

What weapons?

[naive ingot]

Mythic submachine gun and partridge sky

[thorny frost]

Partridge, covers impact and solar

[south cargo]

Anyone that still plays jolder will have the set up but you have to have that set up which not many people do

They gotta buff lmgs

[mellow gust]

has anyone noted the fact that they added a new triumph slot for the next character profiency but no slot for the character story (the same happened with kabr resolute), confirming the belief that we're getting an old char (Ikora) rework again

[stark forge]

ppl are still in denial that a different char will release instead

[twilit thistle]

🤔

[mellow gust]

hopefully the event is good

[gritty rune]

I mean, we got what she looks like already

[mellow gust]

oh lord

[gritty rune]

And her kit

It’s pretty much 100% confirmed lol

[stark forge]

im curious what are the drop rates for items in that chest

[pulsar coral]

such a mid drop lol

[mellow gust]

same as the cat chest, 1/1000 for a boat

[stark forge]

99% decal packs drop rate 🔥

[empty kettle]

Gotta cope somehow

[south cargo]

Then after that the servers shut down

[scenic wigeon]

She got a fade

[empty kettle]

A fresh one at that

[twilit thistle]

I think that means you only get 1 drop per. Wonderful. The first 8 will be gone in a week, yet the event will be up for an unusually long time

[mellow gust]

i bet itll be the same as the halloween event

[gritty rune]

I like how they still put out exotic engrams like they’re big rewards

[south cargo]

More cosmetics for the whales to buy

[stark forge]

i mean for new players anything is big

[celest robin]

I’ll try to get a picture in English when I’m on but I’ve seen this in game too.

Playing shadowshaper duels, getting lvl 10 bots is where this pic was from

[gritty rune]

Even for new players most exotics are kind of meh at best

[twilit thistle]

yes i cannot wait for borealis to drop, ive only gotten about 5 of those in the last month.

[gritty rune]

The ones you get from engrams anyways

[stark forge]

at least its not the bm coin crap again

[gritty rune]

I’d rather have BM coins

Most the exotics people actually use comes from BP or raids

Mostly BP cos that’s where we get new exotics in this game

[stark forge]

hmm come to think of it only partridge and smart bomb kinda usable

[gritty rune]

Unless you want to max build 4 star ikora for fun or something, exotic engrams are kind of ehh

[twilit thistle]

No, most come from just doing bounties the first day u login wdym thats a choice engram a week

[gritty rune]

As in, all the new exotics are in BP so the exotic engrams are mostly useless

[celest robin]

As a player that started in January, I like all exotics just for completionists sake.

Most do suck compared to the meta option for each character tho

[stark forge]

if they give an selectable engram its good, if its not well...

[gritty rune]

I wish we got more BM coins

[thorny frost]

Could also be that the first 8 are always there but obviously weighted towards decal. It would match kind of how the BP chest reads.

[gritty rune]

Those BP tokens are expensive

[stark forge]

the troll new players endure rolling a concerto from event

[south cargo]

Good luck completing each exotic without spending

[celest robin]

No kidding. I spend some though.

Which should I pick

[twilit thistle]

Usually they suck tho lol. If they arent awful, they are the only option. Even jaren only had 1 choice for a handcannon that shoots 1 bullet. Maru didnt even have another primary exotic. TG, Furies.

[stark forge]

amorphous dice

[celest robin]

That’s no fun

[stark forge]

u have maru jaren hh ?

[celest robin]

None

[stark forge]

then dice it is

[twilit thistle]

just save them

[gritty rune]

Idk, TLW sucks and Jaren is just stuck with it for the fire rate, but drill was great, Arbalest is why HH is currently breaking the game, and you can be sure that future characters BiS is probably in BP

[twilit thistle]

Im never gonna rely on that dice. I know the rng in this game too well, (well enough to exploit it). Those dice are almost guaranteed to fail.

[gritty rune]

And you still use TLW on Jaren anyways

[twilit thistle]

didnt they nerf it?

[stark forge]

what nerf ?

[gritty rune]

Arbalest? It just doesn’t explode when breaking shinkas too anymore

Doesn’t make HH not demolish everything

[thorny frost]

The bug fix was basically non existent. It just got rid of a little damage when it pops. I think I saw a video that built HH was still killing the shinkas in the same amount of hits.

[gritty rune]

The extra damage to shields was untouched

Symmetry in comparison is basically a sort of niche for Kabr and idk why Jade rabbit exists

[twilit thistle]

Idk why the game in its current state exists. 😂 I was stunned at the choices that were made this season. Buff F2P. Buff Helhest.

[exotic sinew]

Ah thought I read 20-30 first my bad

[south cargo]

Yeah if I was complaining about 20-30 that’d just be a skill issue

[twilit thistle]

I am waiting to see the official patch notes, etc. Its not looking good, and if its just going to continue down that path I'm going to have to leave.

[limber pine]

Any idea when we will hear something?

[celest fjord]

Guys anybody know what the blooming light chest is in the character synthesise tab of the inventory

[limber pine]

A sparrow and a ghost shell

[south cargo]

More cosmetic slop

[gritty rune]

The problem is the loot

They dropped 4 new pieces of endgame content but they’re basically DoA

[south cargo]

How this game has low revenue when people buy cosmetics like the barnacle outfit for maru

[gritty rune]

Because there’s not many players left

It’s been bleeding players since S2

[south cargo]

If they sold a new cosmetic each day like the Fortnite shop they’d make loads

People buy anything and everything

[gritty rune]

Not really when there’s no one there to buy stuff

[twilit thistle]

😭 After doing some research, it looks like we are cooked.

[jagged osprey]

I just don’t understand the extra month added onto this season. It can’t be that hard to add one minor new zone and Like 2 strikes

[twilit thistle]

"A sign of cost-cutting (reducing the dev team to a skeleton crew)."

[celest robin]

The only reason this game struggles to keep a playerbase is due to Netease making it too graphically intensive. If they were able to release this game on PC then they'd have WAY more players. But unfortunately they chose to make this game too demanding to expand its platformbase.

[frozen tree]

How often do characters rerun on draws?

[jagged osprey]

Should just add it to consoles. D2 is dead anyways

[south cargo]

It’s struggling for alot of other reasons

[celest robin]

never so far.

[frozen tree]

That kinda sucks, I missed Jaren cuz I stopped playing

[celest robin]

Current gen couldnt handle this game unless they toned down graphics. Gotta wait till next gen or compromise fidelity.

[twilit thistle]

Idk why they dont just nerf helhest. Its covered under the TOS (i couldn't believe what all they cover with that 😭 and what we agreed to)

[naive ingot]

This game ain't graphically much higher then D1, so current gen consoles can easily do it

[twilit thistle]

They have not only the right to nerf, but the right out remove.

[south cargo]

Idk what that would do to help the game

The restrictions in content is the real issue

[celest robin]

They Wouldnt nerf her and upset all those who spent on her.. Yet. They'd only nerf her after running her back a second time. Till then they wouldnt make people second guess on limited time OP characters.

[twilit thistle]

Oh yea we agreed that is okay too. 7.1

[celest robin]

Yingfeng Ding is a close family friend. He's told me so

[jagged osprey]

They just need to nerf Helhest on S3A2 and rerun her banner alongside hairkora

[scenic wigeon]

It runs on an s9+ just fine... all it need is better optimization for the mumu emulator

[twilit thistle]

Idk if u can even nerf her. Youd have to rework her.

[scenic wigeon]

Rework the ammo drone is what makes her seemingly op

[celest robin]

S9+ stronger than current gen console/pc tho?

[twilit thistle]

cough bluestacks cough

[scenic wigeon]

I guess?

[south cargo]

Salvo is the reason she’s op

[pure portal]

Idk what to do. I’m in NA servers and I legit cannot play crota. Even on a good time like now. Even trying to match for other activities is RIP

[celest robin]

Create your own group and share to all channels

[urban tendon]

any leaks on next week new character ?

[twilit thistle]

play shadowshaper bots

[urban tendon]

why

[twilit thistle]

bc the leak is the new char appearing as a bot.

(Alternatively just scroll up a ways)

[urban tendon]

ikora ?

[south cargo]

Another few months of void spread activities

[scenic wigeon]

Better than arc peircing...

[south cargo]

Who says that won’t still be the other

[urban tendon]

hoping for “normal” banners with gwynn/estela

[south cargo]

Wouldn’t be surprised if they force another month of helhest to fully kill the game

[scenic wigeon]

Funny enough rising did some things better than d2 tbh

[twilit thistle]

wdym it got everything better, and was very popular in s1 bc of it. I even saw some youtubers that were not sponsored getting addicted to it.

[south cargo]

And yet it fell victim to the same issues as d2, lack of meaningful or aspirational content

[twilit thistle]

The only thing d2 beat it on was having actual content.

[scenic wigeon]

Lack of content to meet the demand

[south cargo]

Helhest actually killed the game I guarantee people stopped playing when they constantly got responses and requests for helhest in every activity they try to play

[twilit thistle]

yea thats what happens. If we could just get the devs that made s1a1 back, would be a better game. These were devs that actually cared about the future of the game, and estela's story mission proved it. (you can @ cody for more info on that if needed)

[naive ingot]

👋

[frozen tree]

For some reason wolf cant load super grenades in bulwark ops

[twilit thistle]

fair play

[bold thunder]

That's weird

[celest robin]

Why would netease copy bungies dumb idea of capping fov at 105?! So narrow

The half screen first person weapon view models too lol

[twilit thistle]

i think some of the code/logic was borrowed, and refactored to run on the new platform actually.

[scenic wigeon]

Like gali in d1...

[naive ingot]

It was pretty much all copied from d1/d2

[scenic wigeon]

Esetlas story mission actually made me feel a little bit sad tbh

[twilit thistle]

The creative story missions set the bar very high. Ts was 🔥. The mechanics are not something I had seen before, and the story telling was on another level.

[celest robin]

That was actually my first thought but after digging into it that’s very unlikely.

Also found some info on the 105 cap thing atleast for D2, stylistic choice by bungie and all weapon animations, aim assist cones, etc was tuned around it as a max.

Probably coped for rising to keep similar look and feel. Idk. Nothing out there commenting specifically on it

[twilit thistle]

It’s not copy paste. I meant the code itself, it’s just a document. Has to be modified to work in the new engine.

[harsh berry]

They ||slapped a perm on Ikora|| and called it a day

[thorny frost]

@twilit thistle how far did you get on the arc only run? I saw it earlier and just started working on it, current max is 13.

[south cargo]

Probably a wig anyway

[twilit thistle]

I ragequit lol, I had planned on asking @bold thunder what I was doing wrong. I raged when I started to see how little effort was put into some towers.

[bold thunder]

I don't think I'll be much help sorry

Honestly 13 id further than I expected was possible

[south cargo]

I’d get 19 on arc only

[bold thunder]

Are you using vengeance? Or did you find something else that can keep up dps wise

[thorny frost]

The fact their supposed strongest tower requires scorched earth (if it is even working) doesn’t help arc.

[thorny frost]

This is my current best from my run

My 5 towers I am using

[bold thunder]

Makes sense, I couldn't come up with anything better than vengeance + sf + buffs

[twilit thistle]

😭 that’s why I was raging. That’s a lot of dmg

[bold thunder]

Are you dying to ads or boss?

[twilit thistle]

Swift eats ads for breakfast.

[thorny frost]

Bosses, the adds aren’t getting close once I get my tower set up. I got hit a little hard early on and had to really focus bosses down (we can use the bomb right? I didn’t see the rules you guys set just unit/towers).

[bold thunder]

I assumed so, just checking though

Which starting upgrade are you running?

I'm guessing Master, Striker, or Tycoon is the way to go

[thorny frost]

The run I got 13 was tycoon. I only got to 10 with striker. I couldn’t get the towers leveled up fast enough

[bold thunder]

Makes sense

[south cargo]

Yeah you have to only use cheap towers for arc run

[bold thunder]

Master lets you get 2 superweapons in a round which may be worth more than the extra tycoon money later on

Not sure if it makes things too inconsistent early though

[thorny frost]

The weaker towers sadly start falling off later stages.

[south cargo]

And dump everything from helhest you can that’s how I did 19

[twilit thistle]

The thing we would need you to do is figure out some goofy tech to slow the bosses down. That’s what i tried, was essentially freezing them in an infinite stun loop.

[bold thunder]

Did you actually get 19 (post patch) with only arc towers/hh?

[thorny frost]

You got 19 pure arc run? Dang ok

[bold thunder]

I thought you meant you think you can do that

[south cargo]

Yeah

[bold thunder]

Nice

What did you do then, sentry + swift?

[south cargo]

You have to use cheap towers they’re the only ones you can get up in time

You need multiple towers for small ads and dump lfr into the big units

From helhest

Barely does the job

[bold thunder]

Interesting

I don't have a well enough built hh to try it myself

What dps tower did you use then? Or did you just spam sf and do dps purely by yourself?

[south cargo]

I’d have to get on to see

Just the 1250 ones

Has to be hive also

T2 is basically all you can get multiple of before the bad waves

[bold thunder]

One of these?

[south cargo]

Yeah

It was rapid fire tho

Not that maybe

I’d have to get on to look

[bold thunder]

Those are the only 3 legendary arc towers I believe

Sentry is a rare arc tower with a high firerate if that's what you mean

[south cargo]

Yeah they’re only job is to kill the small ads

Later waves you need to helhest

[bold thunder]

So you're soloing the bosses?

[south cargo]

Past 16 it’s really hard

[twilit thistle]

thats what i had to do lol it was brutal

[bold thunder]

Past 9 it's really hard to solo bosses

Idk how you're killing both wave 14 bosses (or even one) solo

[south cargo]

But with good luck you can deal with a few bosses

Orbital laser to start then salvo and spam lfr

[bold thunder]

That's enough to solo kill a wave 14 boss? That's crazy

My umeko barely puts a dent in them

[south cargo]

Orbital laser does enough damage to help

[bold thunder]

Orbital laser only does like 25% of their health at wave 14 iirc

[south cargo]

Umeko can’t print ammo

[bold thunder]

I mean you get so many ammo drops that she has plenty anyway

Idk I guess

[limber pine]

Update when

[south cargo]

Only sniper I think that could do the job would be 7 in mag perfect 40000

Hawkeye and calming

Bulwark uses fair play modifier I think

[twilit thistle]

"The NetEase Entities make no commitments about the availability, quality or consistency of the Services and Software." (the tos you agreed to)

[limber pine]

That doesn't help me at all

Also I didn't agree to letting DR die so fast lol

Season 3 lol...

[short locust]

[limber pine]

3.5 sorry

[limber pine]

Booboo unit

[short locust]

[limber pine]

Poo poo poo

He even says it in game

I'm glad killothy exist I wouldn't have anyone else to ask questions about DR

Mod them atp

[twilit thistle]

By pushing any updates (like the maintenance patch on February 5, 2026), they legally prove the game is active. They cannot promise something they know they cannot deliver, (the current roadmap), and then sell you something for it.

[limber pine]

Yeah I understand. Certainly not confused.

They can't can not promise but promise but can can't they did.

[celest robin]

are there any active redemption codes?

[limber pine]

Can they can't do that can they? I mean if they couldn't could you know?

[bold thunder]

Why 7 mag? It significantly lowers total damage (and also slightly lowers dps though ammo is the bigger restriction here I think)

[bold thunder]

It does, though it uses the version that still enables talents

[south cargo]

Doesn’t matter anyway the game mode uses fair play

So guns won’t be able to use exotics mods

[bold thunder]

I know, I was more asking generally why you chose that mod over firerate

[celest robin]

impossible

[south cargo]

Idk I thought it did more damage

Could be wrong

[bold thunder]

Oh ok fair, I wasn't sure if I was missing something

[south cargo]

Nah you’re right the total damage is less

[bold thunder]

I can fill for a legacy or something if you don't mind me AFK since I'm making food rn

[celest robin]

i appreciate it but im actually about to hop off

[solar viper]

The next new myth character coming to the Chinese servers
Ikora

[naive ingot]

No it's not

[bitter estuary]

wtf jaren rerun?

[marsh birch]

I still don’t want to believe it. Please no.

[fallow hound]

Is she gonna be free like Kabr tr?

[solar viper]

I don't want that either.😞

However, it has already been announced on the Chinese servers.

[fallow hound]

Wait Jaren is getting rerun? ChatGPT just said that says limited time recruitment under him

[bitter estuary]

that's... what a limited banner would be called

[twilit thistle]

wrong ai. use gemini. (this game was in gemini's training data btw.)

[bitter estuary]

based on the preview both ikora's and the jaren's have the same chinese characters

[rain condor]

Helhest rerun

[twilit thistle]

They cannot legally stop pushing updates. This prevents platforms (Apple/Google) from delisting the game for being abandoned, which would automatically trigger refund eligibility for recent purchases. If they announced ||EOS|| right after the roadmap, it would not be "actionable fraud". To answer your question, no, i wouldn't know. Gemini would know. (THATDONFC, note that i bolded the if for you. Its to show that this is not official)

[cyan tide]

Do we know if Jaren was available in CN last season? It could be that that's his first banner for CN

[old current]

😭 wtf is this

[errant narwhal]

Jaren rerun is so weird

[marsh birch]

I just asked ChatGPT to confirm or deny the validity of this image and based upon all the searching it came to the conclusion that this image can not be backed up with any official or documented truth

[errant narwhal]

I bet its because last rites is still up

[errant narwhal]

dog

you’re trolling right

[marsh birch]

I’m serious

[errant narwhal]

you’re insane lmao

its legit

[twilit thistle]

😭 bruh i have specifically tested it with questions to my homework that are easy and it has gotten them wrong. its litterally the most unreliable ai u could ask.

[errant narwhal]

do you think dr even has enough players to want to make a fake news image

with news thats already proven true but some not?

[marsh birch]

It’s legit?

[errant narwhal]

yes

[south cargo]

Jaren re run is really good, I need him

[errant narwhal]

It should’ve had multiple mythics on it tbh, and he was literally one banner ago, its so weird to rerun him this soon

[twilit thistle]

I have seen two images.

[errant narwhal]

seems like a final cash grab

[marsh birch]

Based on what? A screenshot?

[cyan tide]

That's why I think the rerun will be exclusive to the CN servers

[errant narwhal]

Go play shadowshapers

You’ll get matched against bot ikoras

[errant narwhal]

Hopefully

[solar viper]

Stay tuned for the announcement. Currently, the Chinese server and international server are synchronized.

[sacred siren]

some people just don't want to hear nothing but official word from NE atp 🤷‍♂️

[cyan tide]

Ikora is pretty much confirmed, the Jaren banner is probably only for CN. Though I wouldn't be surprised if we get a different rerun

[sacred siren]

but its obvious

[marsh birch]

Ok thanks. Did you take that screenshot?

[errant narwhal]

yeah its silly how in denial he is

[errant narwhal]

Also morgrans was in patch notes wasnt it

[cyan tide]

Aren't there some events that are CN exclusive? I remember seeing a shop that we never got in global

[sacred siren]

if you have to ask chatgpt for verification... man its the "grok is this true" meme on twitter

[errant narwhal]

💀

yeah asking chat gpt if a photo is legit is actually hilarious

[marsh birch]

I mean I just didn’t want to scour the entire internet so I asked ai to do it

[twilit thistle]

You asked the litteral worst ai to do it*

[marsh birch]

You probably use the free version

[errant narwhal]

scour the internet? dog there is like 500 active users total that talk about this game in the world

[twilit thistle]

I use the buisness version.

[marsh birch]

Well apparently the only people who know about this image speak mandarin

So

[errant narwhal]

Because it was posted on the chinese version of the game???

[bitter estuary]

i dont think i can pull atleast t4 helhest y'all 😔

i only have 120 pulls atm

[marsh birch]

Exactly and I can’t read it so I asked ai to find out info on it

[bitter estuary]

if reruns do happen in s4 i think i can accumulate 200 by then

[errant narwhal]

Google translate will do a lot better than chat gpt ever will

[marsh birch]

I didn’t just ask it to translate bro. Come on

[twilit thistle]

Google gemini was trained on the game after it released. It can also watch youtube videos for extra context. (litterally op)

[errant narwhal]

I’m saying translate yourself because chatgpt is far from reliable

[marsh birch]

I’m just sayin if someone has a screenshot then it should be documented SOMEWHERE

[errant narwhal]

Dude posted a screenshot

[marsh birch]

Could be fake

Could be real

[twilit thistle]

Tell it to "Avoid: Brevity, Incomplete, Cheating"

[solar viper]

You can't always ask AI—it's sometimes wrong. My character is indeed from the game, on the Chinese server. Now, Chinese servers and international servers release characters simultaneously.

[marsh birch]

So you did take that screenshot?

[storm mural]

They burnt it i want riots

[solar viper]

Yes

[near spade]

Can someone tell what towers to use for this week's solo endless because I keep losing to accelerator vandals

[marsh birch]

Can you take a screenshot of the tab that has Jaren in it please

[twilit thistle]

ya cuz it aint on emea.

[marsh birch]

Thanks for this.

[twilit thistle]

Well so far gemini found the entire leaked kit. And yeah gemini agrees it is true.

[cyan tide]

Muqam, anesthesia, hoof is all you need every week

[elder wing]

Well can’t yall just wait another 5 days lmao asking Ai to confirm ikora for ya dmn

[near spade]

Thats a load of crap because thats what I run and always lose on wave 8

[twilit thistle]

@bold thunder

[neat valley]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-maximum-power-power-spongebob-squarepants-full-power-gif-22777727

@near spade

[cyan tide]

That's what I've been using since week 1, you have to be doing something wrong

[marsh birch]

ChatGPT found the leaked kit too but I was looking for actual official released info. Not datamined stuff

[marsh birch]

I’m bored lol

[cyan tide]

There's nothing official, we'll probably get early access videos in a couple of days but until then you'll just have to wait

[bold thunder]

I have a couple video guides on the build if you want:
solo - #videos-and-streams message
coop 2 entrance map - #videos-and-streams message

[near spade]

Meq in the front storehouse in the corners slag to buff and anatesia for dmg and the vandals just run kn by

[twilit thistle]

On the Chinese servers, players have reported seeing it within the main Seasonal Event menu. (copy pasted)

[marsh birch]

Interesting

[twilit thistle]

(doesn't know specific details and clearly is pulling from reddit or something)

[cyan tide]

Your first mistake was using slag, you literally only need muqam, anesthesia, hoof. Don't bring other towers
Wave 1 place full muqam, wave 2 place one hoof on each side of the middle platform, wave 3 onwards just place anesthesia and level them up, once you have enough polymer start replacing your muqams with anesthesia

[bold thunder]

If you're dying on wave 8 to vandals, it's probably your stone hoofs that are the problem. Anesthesia handles orange bars fine after you get the double beam enhancement, but until then it's easy to leak if you don't upgrade your hoofs to level 2 (because at level 1 their dps isn'thigh enough to kill midgame orange bars on their own). I usually try to have both hoofs to level 2 by wave 6 or 7. I'm happy to talk through it if you're having trouble

[solar viper]

Sorry I can't get it back. I took a screenshot from the event.

[cyan tide]

Meanwhile I leave hoof at level 1 until like wave 10

[bold thunder]

That's fine if you prefer, it's more a matter of build order/preference

Getting them to 2 early means I don't have to mess around with other towers to supplement ad clear, since a single hoof can handle ads until wave 10-11

[twilit thistle]

lmao 8+ muqams in front 1 acute 1 ane and 1 hoof in the back till like wave 8, then rearrange them a little. Fully build everything by wave 10, or bad things will happen.

[limber pine]

Sigh

[marsh birch]

So finalla and umeko on two different banners

[limber pine]

Ikora looks 👌

[scenic wigeon]

The fade is fire fr

[twilit thistle]

The Hidden Ikora, Opens in 4 Days, 19 Hours, Guaranteed Mythic character within 60 pulls. Information is important, especially for war. [The Vanguard/Iron Lords] have never underestimated the importance of intelligence gathering. And after Ikora appeared, Radegast finally found the most suitable candidate for a manager/leader in his mind. @indigo solar

(Could also be called Ikora The Hidden, that part did not translate well as it is "Hidden One Ikora")

[supple mural]

Let’s remember that Ikora is part of a spy network called “the Hidden.”

[karmic chasm]

Your profile is my favorite thing ever bro

[thorny frost]

@bold thunder @twilit thistle the sentry was the key, it allowed me to stall longer in the first stages. I still choose tycoon but some better timing for tower upgrades and possibly artifacts that suited this mode (I don’t use Hawkeye/calming normally). 4* swift would also make things a lot easier.

[bold thunder]

Nice!

[thorny frost]

Vengeance still puts in a lot of work at later stages if you can get them upgraded. Their AOE to also handle adds it’s pretty big

[twilit thistle]

🫠 i cant wait to try it. and also try solar no ane. Or go back to void no hoof.

think steve just had a 404

[bold thunder]

I'm not sold on void no hoof

Void towers are awful except for hoof 😭

Maybe dark bolt I guess

Solar no ane sounds super interesting though, it has a wide variety of tower types

• can-can is a decent buff

[supple mural]

Jaren is back?

[solar viper]

No, that's the Chinese server.

[twilit thistle]

This is all leading to a worlds first clear of 15 as a team, and beating all 3 of these at once. (probably past 15 if we are being honest.)

[bold thunder]

I feel like doing that on 2e would be significantly easier than solo

So obviously I say we do it on 3e

and yes I've decided those are their names now bc I can't be asked to type out full words anymore

[thorny frost]

Anyone who ran coop Bulwarks will understand

I never have seen you guys talk about entrances for it and it automatically clicked for me XD

[solar viper]

They are three characters appearing simultaneously: Ikora, Jaren, and Kabr.

[bold thunder]

They're finally going to do multiple banners at once?

Have they done that sense gwynn/estela?

[thorny frost]

Solar has one of the best boss dots too to semi help. It isn’t enough but it could tip the scales.

[cyan tide]

Btw does anyone know if Crota will stay after this season? The tab has a 45 days timer

[bold thunder]

Hmm that's an interesting point

Honestly I need to reprogram my thinking for these challenge runs

[thorny frost]

Nope, but this is China server so maybe? We can’t take that we are getting the same exact banner as they had things rushed I believe to catch up with us

[bold thunder]

Normally I completely forget about dot effects because they're useless past like wave 20-25

[thorny frost]

I know right?

[twilit thistle]

Id assume its just for the titles. (and i would not trust any timers after what @vast arch and I went through initially)

[bold thunder]

It seems odd for the activity itself to go away given the already low amount of content, I don't think we technically have an official word on the question though

I would definitely guess Killothy is right

[cyan tide]

I was thinking that maybe the timer is for the weekly objectives as well, the ones that give a guaranteed Symmetry and the other weapons

[thorny frost]

Yea, but with 30 stacks upgrade it could mean 1,500 damage per second while it persists. One of HH shot precision hit is about 2k something. So like unit damage could add up.

[tight talon]

Jaren is coming back

[foggy hemlock]

use 10 refreshes only to get wu ming exotic engram everytime wtf

[thorny frost]

Personal opinion: they should combine the stages of the old onslaughts for match making purposes and allow premises to select stages.

[bold thunder]

For reference, one lv3 sentry does about 3x that I think

So like a third of a tower for basically free is actually not bad

[snow light]

Has anybody gotten the gungnir maxed? Just got it myself and it seems incredibly underwhelming

[twilit thistle]

I think they gave titles out? Those likely expire then, sg titles expire around that time too. I think we had 4 different start times initially. Id assume it gets thrown into gauntlet or something too.

[bold thunder]

Yes and it appears to be bugged sadly (or it may be on a very very long cooldown, idk)

[cyan tide]

Would be a nightmare for people who are looking for one particular stage. Maybe if they add a separate stage that has all 3

[solar viper]

Chinese servers allow two characters to spawn simultaneously.

[bold thunder]

Kind of hard to get clean testing on, but it's definitely not causing 5% per arc hit

[twilit thistle]

Note: its not a part of gauntlet onslaught, and ur stats page does not even track it lol

[thorny frost]

Yea it is for “added bonus” and that you can stack the burn on multiple targets with understatements upgrade.

[tight talon]

I hate how they are trying to make CN catchup even though they got plenty of opportunities to just dump every banner at the same time and keep the duration long enough in CN

[bold thunder]

I wish there were more synergy for scorch other than anesthesia (which seemingly doesn't even do anything at high firerate anyway)

[thorny frost]

That’s why I think premade a should be able to pick stages. The more stages we keep adding to matchmaking the more diluted the matchmaking pool gets. It can suck but it would also encourage the fireteam finder.

[snow light]

Yeah I noticed that it’s barely taking any hp down. I had 3 gungnir, 3 understatement 2 acute and the rest sentry and it just wasn’t doing what I thought it should have

[bold thunder]

It's really hard to pick out what's what perfectly, but it should take 90 shots to take an enemy down to 1% of its health just from the gungnir procs, and that certainly isn't happening there

[snow light]

Especially considering the sentry’s are 200/m

[bold thunder]

Should actually be closer to 300 because they're under both stone hoof and the 30% firerate buff

[thorny frost]

Yea there is rather a stupidly long cool down on procs, or it is not working as described.

Most likely later

[twilit thistle]

whats causing the fire?

[bold thunder]

So yeah close to 15 shots per second, should definitely be dropping faster than that (not to mention the base damage from 3 lv3 sentries)

[bold thunder]

Understatement

That's for testing the t4 perk on gungnir, not the arc only challenge

[bold thunder]

From my testing a couple weeks ago, stone hoof didn't seem to be properly applying its aura to the 45m radius T4 should have

[snow light]

I’d rather use a t4 vengeance

[bold thunder]

But as of a couple days ago it seems to be fixed

So I'm hoping gungnir is just broken and will be fixed soon too

[thorny frost]

When I get one stage 4 I want to test different towers to see if some can trigger and others don’t, or maybe there is something else that might trigger it (jolt from non Gugnir sources maybe?)

Let’s hope. Their bug fixes largely tend to be under the radar

[bold thunder]

Something weird happens at the end of the video where the health chunks a lot (maybe even fast enough to be gungnir procs)

So yeah maybe there's something weird with only certain damage sources triggering it idk

[bold thunder]

I love vengeance but I wish they would buff dot debuffs, t4 vengeance feels kind of underwhelming to me when the debuffs it's applying are only doing like 500 dps

[snow light]

Maybe fulminator?

[bold thunder]

Yeah fulm might be an idea

[snow light]

Since it’s not “bullet” damage

[bold thunder]

I wasn't using it because you have such limited tower space with that build

But might be worth a try

I was also thinking jolt damage might trigger it

Player damage doesn't seem to (as of my first tests a while ago, I haven't retested that yet)

[storm mural]

Can we talk…

[snow light]

Just tried fulm. Wasn’t the answer

Must just not be working properly

[storm mural]

Im breaking up with you

[pulsar coral]

womp womp

[thorny frost]

Did you have any towers that could deal 30k/20k damage? Because if you don’t then my guess is gugnir procs for sure. So we just need to figure out the how to trigger it. The beginning of the video we see one Gugnir attack hit them the no others. Debuffs/buffs sometimes need to fall off before being able to be reapplied so that might be a small factor for this specific video.

[bold thunder]

I had (mirrored, so half on each side)
2x Lv2 Stone Hoof
2x Lv1 Gungnir
4x Lv1 Understatement
6x Lv3 Sentry

None of that would do anywhere near that much in one hit

[thorny frost]

Definitely not up to the 20k range

[bold thunder]

So unless it's two numbers stacked on each other visually

Sadly that makes me think it's just a long cooldown

[thorny frost]

Not actually sure, I need to look at the section I took the 30k at, there looks to be a 33k hit right under it.

[bold thunder]

That was after the first leak right?

So the boss was likely targeted by both gungnirs at that point

[thorny frost]

Maybe a cool down from each source of arc damage? I will need to do some isolation tests, which is hard on bulworks XD. And the game needs to give me more gugnir

[bold thunder]

Not sure whether thats relevant

[thorny frost]

So it could be that each one applies a different mark.

[bold thunder]

I'm happy to do my best to record whatever if you need

And/or stream it if you want live feedback

[thorny frost]

I do these break downs during commercial breaks at times XD. If I can think of a good way to test I will tag you, any videos you have on it just tag me and I will try to break things down.

At least we know it does trigger at times and isn’t not working completely

[bold thunder]

Those were my old tests if they're of any help

[storm mural]

Wanna make out

What if we kissed in crotas end

[exotic apex]

Hi

[storm mural]

Hewoo

^_^

[thorny frost]

Thank you, I have saved them so I can slow them down now. Phone is about to die so I will probably see what I can find tomorrow

[haughty dragon]

Any Info on the next character?

[bold thunder]

Let me know if you find anything!

[bold thunder]

Looks like it's Ikora but with 100% more hair

[haughty dragon]

Oh good so I can skip then lmao

I really hope they aren't going to re-release all the 4 stars as 5 stars

[bold thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-do-not-dont-please-meme-gif-21449752

[pulsar coral]

Trailer will probably drop tomorrow

[south cargo]

Ikora definitely rocket?

[haughty dragon]

Why tomorrow?

[past flame]

He is not. it’s only for china they don’t have jaren yet

It’s cooked chat 🥀

[elder wing]

Is nice to see people can’t wait to see the bald headed demon

[storm mural]

I want to play as bikini mara sov

I will pay $200 for her

[elder wing]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-happy-happy-happy-cat-turk-komik-kedi-komik-gif-16091812017663983511

[storm mural]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-cat-cat-edit-weird-cat-gif-7831841012128567990

[south cargo]

Yeah give them $200 before the servers close

[twilit thistle]

This would be good for advertisement. If they added that in just for estella or umeko, note they would make more money than they have made in the games history. They could price that around $2000 to unlock it and this would not impact the final profits. (or they could also just add in any 'waifu' design and make money off of it. It is the meta right now. Especially for similar gachas.)

[near spade]

I had stonehoofs on the corners by wave 6 at level 2 and vandals still got passed and made me lose by wave 9

Im just gonna gave up on bulkwurk ops. I have every towers and tried all possible setups and it still didnt work for me

[twilit thistle]

Did you actually upgrade ane to have 2 beams via the store? If you keep refreshing, there is an option for 2 beams.

[near spade]

I havnt got that to drop

[twilit thistle]

it takes numerous refreshes.

unless u mean the tower, in which case u need to be farming it at wave 3 and stopping.

[bold thunder]

Don't roll for it until your 3rd upgrade imo (wave 8 unless you have prudence)

It seems to be much rarer on your second upgrade and impossible on your first, so you'll end up burning a lot of money that way

[twilit thistle]

i usually just go for the 2nd. have u tested if u can just keep the first upgrade and try refreshing when u get the 2nd available?

[bold thunder]

But yeah you definitely need to roll for that upgrade on wave 8 even if it takes a while, because without it your ad clear falls way behind pretty quickly (especially on fallen days where the ads are fast)

[bold thunder]

Not sure tbh

And yeah going for it on your second upgrade is probably fine

Maybe even better than waiting for third if you're struggling with early ads

[bold thunder]

I'd strongly recommend watching one of the guides I linked if you want to figure the gamemode out, a lot of people tend to make a lot of the same minor mistakes with the build order and such

[twilit thistle]

it works if u get 2 upgrades after wave 3. I know that, i have tested that. I always save the 2nd one for the next time the shop opens, and get it then

[bold thunder]

The mode definitely isn't for everyone though, if you don't enjoy it there isn't much reason to play it

[stiff breach]

i want the lvl 100 title lol

either that or the omenwalker title from the season

[lost canopy]

So question when you finish the game it gives you option to restart

[pulsar coral]

keep pimping yourself out for bounties then if you want that title 😂

[lost canopy]

What is that about

[pulsar coral]

omenwalker title big homie

[pulsar coral]

New seasons start Thursday next week. Usually character trailer drops the Friday/ Saturday before. Content creators share early access vids of the characters by Mon-Tue of next week. It’s been like that since Maru

[elder wing]

Not anytime soon. Relax

[pulsar coral]

Ikora in action baby lol

[twilit thistle]

Ikora the hidden.

[celest robin]

Damn. New ikora runs Grenade launcher and still light grenade launcher.

[pulsar coral]

ikora the recycled

[celest robin]

Ikora twice before Zavala once

[twilit thistle]

ofc i coulda told u that. Did u expect them to actually add any new content, even expanse levels/morgrans? bc they arent gonna do anything but rerun marus stuff.

[pulsar coral]

great way to pull new players in, rerelease characters people don’t use to begin with

[dusk quiver]

excuse me

[pulsar coral]

you’re excused

[dusk quiver]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1300881191087509548/1431007071029166162/ScreenRecording2025-10-23194037-ezgif.com-optimize.gif

[celest robin]

She’s not using those weapons. That was a little trick I like to call lying.

[celest robin]

I’d drop $40

[pulsar coral]

bro is hitting the dee di diddly do do

[twilit thistle]

was that leaked? ive read conflicting claims, i went with the one that made the most sense.

[celest robin]

Nobody has the weapon setup info yet

[dusk quiver]

i’m nobody

[celest robin]

Hello nobody

[twilit thistle]

leak said it was the same.

[dusk quiver]

heres the weapon info: ||🖕||

another sneak peek: ||👌||

[storm mural]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-group-chat-waiting-cereal-eating-cereal-dead-gif-25969021

[naive ingot]

[lapis swallow]

I really can't expect them to retain players when the pinnacle system is so bad you are wasting your tries with low drop rates of the resources you need

It's only good in theory if the drops are 100% guaranteed, otherwise remove the pinnacle system and retain the current drop rates of the resources

[regal gulch]

Hi

[dusty spire]

That’s all it cost me to max Kabr T6 lol

Nice focus banner on the cheap

[dusty spire]

Ohhhh interesting

[gritty rune]

Pinnacle as bad as it is, is a thing every gacha uses and games like Genshin and WuWa are doing just fine.

The problem is a lack of content and bland rewards

[lapis swallow]

What's different with other games having their own energy system is that the resource drop is 100% guaranteed. DRising makes you gamble the 120 pinnacle everyday for a chance to get the specific resource.

It can be solved if they make it guaranteed with your 120 pinnacle, then after everything is empty, you're back with gambling odds on resource drops

Also they made it this way because they have an ultra small team responsible in making new content lol, they can barely cough up new content for late game players, so by specifically delaying players progression with their bad pinnacle system and drops, they can extend their work time even further, with just adding small content each week, and those are just grinding/exchange events lol

[livid sable]

cant wait for the next not-calamity-ops

[lapis swallow]

You mean Helhest/Jaren Ops

And next The Expanse reset are still Jaren/Kabr/Helhest lmfao

[dusty spire]

It’s a progress over time loop fixed around attendance.

F2P progression is the lowest and more so like welfare

P2P is faster

Live service loop 🔁

[drowsy cypress]

u can get this rare resource everyday now😏

[tropic swift]

What's this about?

New Event next week maybe?

[hidden carbon]

Probably Chinese new year event

[lapis swallow]

The difference is out of all three, WuWa is the fastest, you can't even P2P your way out of progression in the game. Yet spending your waveplates, which is the equivalent of pinnacle energy in DRising, guarantees you with the resources you need without gambling your tries each day.

[lapis swallow]

You can now but with how horrible the matchmaking queue time nowadays, it's basically useless. Moreso like wasting your pinnacle energy and still get nothing.

[lament talon]

.

[celest fjord]

Chat, why can’t we sell our mythic engrams, they basically become useless once you get the perfect mythic loaded, now I’ve got 18664 engrams that I don’t have any use for

[lyric skiff]

Use em recycle the guns craft next seasons engrams

[celest fjord]

Now what about the parameters, I have a but load of stacks of them

[lyric skiff]

Those u can save till new engram drops

[celest fjord]

I guess

[wheat ferry]

It's real😭

[lyric skiff]

Another remake damn

Another 60 days😭

[frozen nimbus]

Will she come to standard banner too? 🤔

[red geyser]

[cyan tide]

I doubt it but we'll have to wait and see

[frozen nimbus]

Next 4* remake? 😄

[bitter estuary]

after seeing xuan and umeko on the banner

i used the free 4* selector on rossi

😭

[wheat ferry]

Don't expect the 60 free pulls like they done with kabr. Netease does good one banner but the next they'll make it worse

[bitter estuary]

why does she have hair

like pls did she grew hair out of spite

[empty kettle]

"Ikora, the hidden" does that mean that she will establish some hidden spy organisation?

[tight talon]

Whisperers got short end of the stick

[celest robin]

She just cut it.

[wheat ferry]

She does in D1/D2

[wheat ferry]

Technically not ikora though

[empty kettle]

VIP#2025 (Wolf)

[sharp talon]

i hope she has a story quest at least

[empty kettle]

I don't think so

[sharp talon]

i heard a rumor that kabr didnt have one becuz of va issues

[celest robin]

Her spy org was called The Hidden too

[wheat ferry]

People hoping for the bare minimum these days😭

[wide dagger]

I hate this game

[empty kettle]

S3 is just the season of revamped 4* starter characters

[sharp talon]

her kit has a lot of potential. i hope they didnt hold back on her

[empty kettle]

They better not hold back

[sharp talon]

yea if they held back on her and she has unpopular weapons, rip

[bitter estuary]

im just gonna continue using 4* ikora then

[wheat ferry]

Can't wait for them not to give a free copy💀

[sharp talon]

unpopular opinion but she can be good with her weapons/gameplay loop if her kit is busted

[bitter estuary]

she's still very reliable for burst dps

[tame ravine]

do we know which weapons?

[sharp talon]

the leaked kit has lgl and rocket

[bitter estuary]

if she gets speedboost for doing x thing speedrunners will favor her over maru for sure

[celest robin]

Will really suck If she’s another slow moving character

Needs a blink speed boost nuke kit

[empty kettle]

She can dash

[rich veldt]

So we had Kabr^2, and now we have...Ikora^2...What next Attal^2? (wouldn't be a bad idea actually)

[celest robin]

Based on what info?

[wheat ferry]

The leaks...

[celest robin]

Which leaks, there a link here?

[velvet herald]

lf gjallarhorn

[cyan tide]

That's just Helhest

[wheat ferry]

Can't wait until all the 4s have a 5 version and the ln they release 6* wolf and then EoS the game

[celest robin]

Where was this pulled from?

[empty kettle]

Reddit

[wheat ferry]

Ingame datamining

[rich veldt]

I'm just hoping she'll have better weapon options than 4* Ikora

[wheat ferry]

She has the same lol

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[rich veldt]

...I feel nothing but pain

[white fossil]

is this true

theyre going through the effort to make ikora2 and theyre giving her the same weaponset?

[celest robin]

based on the datamine, yeah. but new battle pass too so prob new weapon. My guess is Fighting Lion

[white fossil]

icl thats so trash 😭

[wheat ferry]

We already had a LGL as a BP weapon. We'll probably have a RL like truth or ghally

[white fossil]

not even a new weaponset to have fun with bruh

[limber kelp]

Need a little help from someone. My map indicates there is something new to look at/find with the little orange notification, but when I drill down into that location on the map, there’s nothing new there for me to find. Any suggestions? I took a screen recording, but can’t post it here

[celest robin]

Ghally solar so prob truth. or deathbringer?

[wheat ferry]

Arbalest was solar too and kabr was arc.

[celest robin]

arbalest was kinetic. which isnt a archetype in rising

[lean burrow]

if they waste a weapon like ghally on ikora they're cooked

without mentioning the fact that they would lock a all time favorite weapon behind a paywall

[dry bolt]

Bring smc back

Bring smc back

[errant narwhal]

Making truth a bp weapon would be a slap in the face ngl lol

[celest robin]

They wouldn’t make ghally anything but solar. Wouldn’t make sense with the lore and too iconic to franchise.

[lean burrow]

i'm not saying that

i'm saying it would be wasted in a moment where the game is dead

would be a better strategy to release with s4 major update

where more people will be coming back anyway

[celest robin]

oh gotcha. they'll definitely put behind a paywall. I can see them locking it behind a banner draw.

[empty kettle]

That would make it a weapon banner

[celest robin]

yeah. why wouldnt they do that next

[lean burrow]

cause no one is playing already lol

[bitter estuary]

i finally got coup de grace for my mythic swords

i can finally build finnala

[lean burrow]

tell me about being f2p friendly, where on top of a 10$ pass you also have to spend 150k bm coins to max a weapon

[bitter estuary]

essentially 10~15 bucks per month

if it was like limbus i'd be okay but it's not so idk atp

[lean burrow]

for 10-15 bucks a month i'm expecting way more content

[cyan tide]

DM the recording, you probably just need to claim the rewards

[limber kelp]

Yup, that was it! Figured it out about 3 minutes ago. Thanks for offering to help 🙂

[dry bolt]

Bring smc back

[thorny frost]

Would you prefer 400+ pulls that use the same currency as what you use to pull for units (most gachas)? The battle pass weapon isn’t really F2P I do agree with that (but it is cheap 15 dollars for it + everything else on the battle pass and the lumia leaves). It isn’t the only weapon tho, most of the time the raid/other weapons are pretty viable too that you can get for free.

[little tulip]

:/

[thorny frost]

F2P friendly doesn’t mean everything is easy to get, it just means there are options for F2P to do well with in the game and clear content. Only content really hard for F2P is ranking based ones, Overseer in CalOps, and possibly higher ranks in the Cordon now.

[lean burrow]

i mean i've been buying it every month so i'm not having an issue with that, the thing is we arrived to a point where there's no incentive to pull/buy stuff in this game, maru will be fine for the next cycles

honestly calamity ops is a big scam, i lost my interest in running the same 4 strikes over and over

new content is needed, otherwise no one will spend a penny on this game and that will be it's end

[thorny frost]

O yea, but in reality that happens all the time. The idea you “need” every unit is over stated, power creep will happen, but it is really just for the top meta picks. If you can get a couple decent units maxed (and can find friends to run stuff to avoid matchmaking pickiness) then you can easily save for a while. This is why I tried to get some good units decently fast, and now why I can cost easily.

[lean burrow]

i agree on that

even though t6 helhest ruined the balance in this game, and i've got her t6. everthing else feels not worth using cause it's weaker

[thorny frost]

There is a lot of QoL that could really be needed to help out the game. Better que system (let us run solo content) more rewarding end game loop and reason to run the end game content more ect. Actual new content they have actually semi done tho, since release we have gotten 3 blitz’s, tower defense, and a new raid with more strikes and another raid coming at the end of March. That is fairly decent amount of new content for a mobile game after launch (I didn’t list any other content that was just rehash stuff).

[lean burrow]

true

this can be especially true with crota

[willow siren]

what's ikora's guns?

[sharp talon]

lgl and rocket according to leaked kit

[lean burrow]

i've been running only crota boss encounters to get symmetry maxed, there's no reason to run the other encounter cause there's no exclusive exotics tied to them, that's sad cause the raid was pretty enjoyable in it's another calamity version, so basically they added a whole raid but with zero replayability cause no one finds a team to hop in without the right loot incentive

[thorny frost]

There are some players who prefer some of the other stages to farm as each one can give an exotic mod of a different weapon type. They actually did do ok in that regard and gave each stage a reason to be farmed. But it isn’t a big one, and the whole matchmaking and spreading out the player base makes matchmaking a pain to do there too.

If just farming symmetry tho I think Deathsinger is the fastest? I believe I saw that had the fastest times for clear.

[lean burrow]

mods aren't an incentive good enough for myself even though it's good for new players i guess

[thorny frost]

Should say exotic mod with 0 pinnacle needed. So Crota is currently the only place to farm for pinnacless exotic mods.

[versed scroll]

Dang, new drip.

Is it her uni from D1 or D2?

[willow siren]

maru season again

[thorny frost]

It is still a limited material, which can be broken down into möbius cluster. So it has more repeatability then others things. It isn’t seeming like enough to keep people playing it I agree, and I blame matchmaking issues slightly on that.

[humble jacinth]

Jfc, devs... INVECTIVE!

She is a shotgun user in lore.

[rich veldt]

Invective. That's a name I haven't heard in generations.

[wheat ferry]

Neither. "New design"

[versed scroll]

Oh, cool.

Plot Twist, she's a sidearms user.

w/ blink. Oh, welcome back Gwynn.

[lean burrow]

no drip

[rich veldt]

Still better than her 4* outfit

[wheat ferry]

She is still better bald though

[white yew]

That hair is atrocious

[dusty spire]

Ngl she’s a grab I like the style

[gritty rune]

The Hidden?

Should have stayed hidden

[dusty spire]

Stop 🤣

[gritty rune]

I don’t mind 4 star retrains but can we like, get story quests about how they got their new forms?

[dusty spire]

I’ve said this before slower periods strategically this is better than releasing the limited during low uptake

You sell limited into momentum

Build it back up and then sell back into it

[cinder glen]

This man understands that season 4 is coming soon

[gritty rune]

Kabr’s like ‘after countless battles’

Bro, what battles? You had 1 quest

[wheat ferry]

"Ikora how did you achieve this form?"

"New tailor and hairdresser"

[empty kettle]

S4 is where things start to actually happen

[gritty rune]

And a good hair transplant clinic?

[dusty spire]

They will aim to ramp it up, if they execute that’s another question lol

I can see another raid being a momentum pull with a new area

[gritty rune]

We said the same thing about S3 in S2 lmao

[cyan tide]

She isn't completely bald, you can see hair in her og model

[gritty rune]

‘Raid and TD mode coming’

[dusty spire]

I like ikora and hair

[cyan tide]

I think she would've looked better with slightly shorter hair but I don't mind the new drip

[dusty spire]

Should have been Afro

[cinder glen]

At least we didnt get the D2 Ikora past hair

[dusty spire]

She looks fine imo

Banging hair style

[empty kettle]

"Classic destiny raid (crota) and a TD mode" td is the only new content

[dusty spire]

Net ease has so many raids to convert to mobile they have more than plenty over the next two years

How many raids in total for the destiny ?

[wheat ferry]

Would have rather that tbh. This is like killmongers hairstyle😭

[dusty spire]

Blatant copy loool

[empty kettle]

I think like 20, I'm not so sure tho

[cyan tide]

That's the only hairstyle black characters are allowed to have nowadays lol

[dusty spire]

Lool wow that’s a lot to look forward tooo lol

[gritty rune]

Huh? Crota isn’t new content?

Or cordon? Or GM LC?

[dusty spire]

lol to be fair we don’t really have much styles generally as a group

[cyan tide]

GM LC is the laziest form of new content tbf, it's just higher power LC stages. The others are valid

[wheat ferry]

And people were complaining that every black man had this haircut in films recently 😭 it is kinda overdone

[empty kettle]

Cordon is just calamity ops but a little different, gm lc... Just another resource farm

[gritty rune]

Tbh I’d be fine with GM LC being just LC with bigger stats if it had good loot and some cosmetics to chase

[cyan tide]

Idk man, I've seen some black hairstyles that go super hard. I think the problem is that they're hard to animate lol

[dusty spire]

Yup we get hair cuts, cornrows or dreads, if we lucky Afro

[gritty rune]

But they even fumbled there

[candid tendon]

"I think they are trying to kill thier own game for sure now."

[gritty rune]

Yeah, but that’s what ‘new endgame content’ is in this game lol

Like how expanse 40 is just expanse 30 with a bigger DPS check

[dusty spire]

I was gonna say send uid but then you had no profile pic.

😆

[gritty rune]

So come S4 it’s just gonna be S5 is where the real uptake starts, trust

[mortal fjord]

Pls 😭😭 I deleted the profile

[cyan tide]

Just increasing the photon drop rate by like 10% would've made them worth it imo, rn they're just a small time saver

[dusty spire]

S4 start when things around the world should start getting more interesting

[gritty rune]

How

[dusty spire]

Long to talk economics

[empty kettle]

S4 is where we are getting "major system updates and changes"

[dusty spire]

But we are cycles if you get what I mean

Slow fast slow fast
Up down up down ect

[gritty rune]

We’ve been slow like, since S1 act 2 lol

[dusty spire]

Honestly my opinion is different I think it’s been fine

For what it is, digital collectors game with a daily loop

[cyan tide]

This season was relatively fast, if only it didn't last 12 weeks instead of the usual 8

[gritty rune]

I mean, regardless of what you and I think, looking at how players are leaving in droves it’s clearly not working

[cyan ore]

people want it to be a PC game, its not its a mobile game and its one of the best Mobile games on the market in its category.

[gritty rune]

Problem is that we had 4 new endgame content but they’re kind of all DoA

Cos the loot is just not there

[cyan ore]

The problem is destiny players don't understand that, so their expectations are way off.

I agree that they have things to fix and improve upon. But the base gameplay is fun.

[cinder glen]

Destiny players want it ti be Destiny 2 replacement. They want this to be Destiny 3

[gritty rune]

I mean, who ‘ understands’ it then? Cos we aren’t keeping players around

[empty kettle]

Expectations so high even the traveler's light can't reach it

[dusty spire]

We have many activities that spread players across different areas creating even lower MM levels. I would have hoped they started a power hour

Increase drop rates by x amount during a 1-2 hour period 3 times a day

For certain activities

[cyan tide]

That's only because there's like no mobile looter shooters, only one I can think of is DNA but that's more of an action RPG than a looter shooter

[gritty rune]

I don’t think it’s a spread of players, for example, Crota has been just longer and longer queues as time goes on

The core issue is that, the rewards are both few and boring

[dusty spire]

I get that especially when players have got what they needed from
It

[empty kettle]

We have TDR but that isn't released yet

[gritty rune]

There’s nothing to chase, no weapons to build and what you get feels pitiful

[dusty spire]

Nothing touches Dr

[cyan ore]

The raids in this game were great for a mobile game. The problem is that they didn't play test them and there were a million bugs and exploits. Thats something they need to fix.

[dusty spire]

Netease knows they hit a good one with this

[gritty rune]

There has been, but it’s never been popular. E.g Snowbreak

[dusty spire]

Only game that would make me swing from
Here is a mass affect theme

[gritty rune]

No the problem is that there’s no rewards

[cyan ore]

I'm more talkinga bout the contest raid

[dusty spire]

I’m pretty much done with anime gatcha

[cyan ore]

but I agree that they need to improve the rewards after contest is over