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[twilit thistle]

U gonna max finalla? Or kabr v 1.0?

[naive ingot]

[twilit thistle]

Slower char release means we run outa stuff to do even faster. All there is to do now is go play in iron bar. (Which in and of itself is not competitive, and is just a joke at this point)

[pulsar coral]

fair enough, must be big balling on your account with the pinnacle energy lol

[twilit thistle]

Or better yet, stop making artifacts so hard to get rolls on. They expanded it to lvl 85, which made it harder to upgrade them, and also at the same time made the power gained from getting matching godrolls even more valuable.

Essentially it made it easier for them to introduce something that they make more money on, without providing any benefit to the consumer.

But have you built tank-hest? That’s what I’ve been doing, I ran outa stuff to upgrade, so I started to build alternate sets for each.

[pulsar coral]

I’m still working on Jaren and Kabr. Do you match your defensive artifacts?

[twilit thistle]

💀 you can survive cabal drop pods tho, lvl 3 healing drone actually has some use

[pulsar coral]

Best defensive picks for Jaren?

[twilit thistle]

I think it’s shield. Over shield is kinda good too. It’s actual kinda useful tho. It lets me do run thru stuff in calamity, like the solar dregs, and reposition. HH is the only support with healing that can fully charge the over shield

I think it’s around 5000 when matching and lvl 10

[pulsar coral]

Substats to be clear

[twilit thistle]

Universal ones. But you’ll never get the ones u want. It’s actually harder to get those bc they have 1 extra in the pool. It depends on your play style, and @indigo solar ‘s math. You don’t want barrier

They all kinda stack, from what I gathered. Idk why there are like a million for damage reduction tho 😭 I never liked that part

[true mauve]

Recovery substat is peak with Plasma arti in 2nd slot

[twilit thistle]

Tbh I have wondered if they all have to match, or if mismatched ones in some scenarios can be better. Like shield and overshield, but the rest match.

[neat valley]

Exactly what I’m doing

A true maxed out character has multiple sets

[twilit thistle]

💀 it’s heaven, trust me. Helhest gets super op with the overshield.

It’s useful for the expanse in particular bc it has no memory, you can just leave, swap, and go back in

[celest fjord]

Chat, the game made me a lil annoyed

In JSM
On the destination ops, it says I have 99% completion in the region
And the 1% is in world and phenomena and it’s the second part on the traveler which have no idea on why it’s locked 😭

[bitter estuary]

atp you can max out all characters

[abstract cedar]

it’s so pretty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[twilit thistle]

👀 oh no what have i summoned.

[indigo solar]

Defense: elemental resist, defense boost (those two are must-picks on everyone), ranged resist (to prevent sniper one taps), melee resist/recovery boost/shield boost(/healing boost if t2) depending on preference

[indigo solar]

Nah not a massive paragraph, just got busy while typing

[abstract cedar]

@karmic chasm

[indigo solar]

Offense: Solar boost, weapon enhancement, ability strength, arc boost(if octant)/sig strength(for calops)/super boost(for raids)/damage bonus boost(with Helhest teammate)

[twilit thistle]

Did you read my comment about mismatched stats? (mainly referring to "added tier effects")

[thorny frost]

I can kind of answer this. In most cases you will definitely want to match them, specially for damage reduction stats. The growth of the main effect of the substat is linear so it will continue to grow at the same rate, what this means for reduction stats is that you gain more at the later stages of the upgrade then the beginning.

Example: say first 120 stats give 10% damage reduction it will reduce damage by 10%, but the next 120 also give 10% so you reduce 10% more damage from 90%. So you gain basically 11% damage reduction in the second half vs switching to another stat that might only give another 10%.

There might be some use for non damage reduction effects IF you don’t need their secondary effect as much (as it grows the most after tier 5). So I could see some niche use in mixing the other stats like overshield/healing/recovery/maybe health and shield?, depending on what you are attempting to do.

The only offensive ones that might have niche uses to mix and match (imo) is vulnerability/damage bonus boost/elemental boosts(if you don’t need the heal) as their secondary effect seem more QoL vs actual damage increase.

Wait…. I just realized something, T6 seem to be a major jump…. So maybe there are more niche cases then I imagined as T6 is typically more then 50% of T10 strength

[pulsar coral]

Thanks!!

[twilit thistle]

This is a good example. Thats like 4 potential totem of undying's

Almost makes me want to finish the custom server I was making, which was composed of screenshots of everything. Almost.

[thorny frost]

I could definitely see the argument for specially range defense and shield for their secondary effect of instant health. I have personally not tested them to see if they could save from one shots tho :/ I am assuming it does as you are bringing them up tho.

[twilit thistle]

ya without custom pvp lobbies where we can test stuff, slots 1 and 2 are likely the least documented of all. Its just so hard to properly test them, and they are rarely god rolled like slots 3 and 4

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-hart-tears-of-joy-tears-crying-gif-1795347642895926641

[abstract cedar]

i’ve been making little snowman ☃️ and sending them to my boss and saying “olaf says too let it snow” 😂 i got a few choice words from her lol

[twilit thistle]

Tankhest in a nutshell.

[harsh berry]

Chad tracer shanks one shotting me in expanse 40 when i'm only 1% down from full health

Are the Inverted and Planetisimal artifact sets the best combos for Rossi 11'a 3&4 slot, when using him in Expanse 31+?

trying to work around different builds but I'm barely doing anything to elite enemies no less bosses after stage 34+

I just cleared it with Helhest but curious on how I can get Rossi through

[pulsar coral]

i suggest putting rossi back in the vault

[calm vortex]

The only Slot 2 I really test is Talisman of Luxuriance cause it has some funky interactions sometimes, like how it can proc off the healing from Elemental Damage substats when you get a kill with a weapon

[harsh berry]

Well he's definitely fallen from my favorite four star shortly after upgrading a few but thought he'd at least be powerful enough to push through

[pulsar coral]

i really enjoyed him at first, then tried him in anything besides campaign and realized it’s not worth the hassle

[harsh berry]

I've been fishing for as many different healing set artifacts for Rossi too, ring of conversion was a staple for me , on anyone who had passive or ability generating health or overshield

[harsh berry]

Maha-pilled

He's still a solid support in GMs when built well at the very least which makes him usable when you're short a piercing/Helhest

[calm vortex]

Well you wont have to add Talisman to that cause it sadly doesnt work with his self healing sources so you'd have to give up your slot 1 for a dedicated healing slot 1 if you wanted to proc it

[harsh berry]

Talisman was initially the set I was going for with Attal but still stray more towards building overshield with conversion and using any piercing token/inverted/planetisimal combo for 3&4

I do it a lot for arcs heroes even tho its not the most optimal build

[calm vortex]

Yeah if your just being killed in 1 hit Talisman isnt going to help, then again not much is going to help you in that case cause you actually have to survive the first hit

[harsh berry]

Well i might have mixed up my statements, i got 1 shot with Helhest but cleared just like a few minutes after lol

Was just testing with Rossi but can't clear past 34

Rossi can tank but DPS is the issue so i just run out of heavy & time where rampaged enemies kill me

[calm vortex]

Yeah that would be an issue, you'd at least need a maxed out Maha and whatever 3&4 slots will give you the best burst damage for beefy enemies and sadly I dont think your barriers would last long against those enemies to build up his WM stacks

Unless you maybe used slot 1&2 to beef up your summon HP

[obtuse turret]

What's the best modifiers to get A on cordon and keep ranking up?

[harsh berry]

I was thinking building around summons would be my next test but feel like it is not as efficient to build as Estela or as quick a regen for Rossi's summons as Kabr/Ning Fei for example. My Rossi has a maxed relic and weapon kit with maha so it comes down to artifact set

[calm vortex]

And besides the only thing you need to make sure survives long enough is your Super barrier so you can farm stacks off it for more damage

[harsh berry]

Artifact set is Nourishing/Ring of Conversion/Inverted Fury/Vengeance

wanna use chiaroscuro but all my copies have bad stat rolls. I was using undaunted blazer alternatively in slot 1 as well

[calm vortex]

yeah Undaunted should work Rossi has enough Overshield gain but I definitely prefer Chiaroscuro since its the same benefit just all the time and Rossi's only personal source of healing is when they are under 50% anyways

[harsh berry]

Its a really good universal artifact imo, prayanama has similar utility

Just wish i had better rolls for chiaro

[calm vortex]

Pranayama is pretty funny with T10 Recovery Boost but it does have problems in higher tier stages keeping up despite how crazy natural regen can get

[twilit thistle]

When it comes to upgrading tankhest, I have no soul.

@indigo solar tartar sauce was a 1 shot for some of them.

[pulsar coral]

I did the replace feature. I had my highest enhancement artifact and I did replace for a lower one. It seems my higher one got deleted or lost all bonus enhancements!? I didn’t know that’s how that works.

[twilit thistle]

😭 wat

It takes rolls from the one you put in, and transfers them to the original one

[pulsar coral]

?

[twilit thistle]

high bp. Do you have a cuff? "Consuming 600 mg of caffeine daily is generally considered too high by health authorities like the FDA, exceeding the recommended 400 mg limit for most adults.", "very high blood pressure (hypertensive crisis, typically >180/120 mmHg) can cause headaches"

[cobalt beacon]

Drink a couple monsters it will be fixed

Trust me im certified

[pulsar coral]

My original one with like 400-440 attribute power

This was the one I replaced smh

That’s like a week of essence gone

[twilit thistle]

🤔 yeah just take some ibuiprofen to compensate.

[pulsar coral]

At least they are a close match 🙁

I can’t believe this is a feature in the game and seems so nonchalant and it can ruin an artifact progression…

What the difference in this feature and the attribute transfer? Seems the same almost.

[twilit thistle]

Your life expectancy is your age + 6 months from now 💀

[twilit thistle]

wdym

[pulsar coral]

Fixed it!

Idk what happened.

[twilit thistle]

Wow ur the same age @hoary kiln

[cobalt beacon]

Beli veil🥹

[hoary kiln]

We are both 172 years old?

Half of what

Two hours? Decades? Eons?

[twilit thistle]

but half of 2 is 1

[cobalt beacon]

I honestly think best roll is defense boost,elemental,closerange res, shield or healing

The issue is i never die while shooting enemies i die while going to the enemy to shoot to heal

Well i dont have those rolls xd

I still run bad 1/2 slot

You only need it for speedrunning to a certain extent you dont really die

And arc expanse you just die no matter what

this aint it man

super on jaren is actually just bad

nah it wont save time

you lose out on too much dmg

[twilit thistle]

tbh jaren is kinda unkillable tho, shinkas/timers kill me more than anything. I dont have any godrolls and hes t0 and i beat 40 each cycle. I hightly doubt my artifacts are recommended, too lmao

[grizzled spruce]

When are they going to support the poco x7 pro for 60 fps?

[cobalt beacon]

Trust me i did expanse in 4:07 solar side it doesnt save time

With jaren im pretty confident in what im saying

[twilit thistle]

💀 he has barrier boost on one of the artifacts. Only ones matching are elemental and shield.

[cobalt beacon]

🥲

its also not good in expanse but if thats what you like you do you

the only artifact subs i can see is running arc/void boost on arc/void expanse

[winter pulsar]

t2qZuEVn

[cobalt beacon]

i get what your saying but its simply not faster

[rough sedge]

There a good guide to artifacts I can be pointed to? For each character

Obviously there are in game recs

[cobalt beacon]

show me

@vapid ibex how fast do you do stage 40?

[twilit thistle]

Is it still broken if u switch weapons? Still count the last weapon's magazine as the current weapons? I had estella running gallows with 200 rounds in the mag once.

[cobalt beacon]

it takes me 29 seconds on a pretty alright run

look at your dms

2secs

its uploading the clip

[fallow hound]

Kinda wild you gotta pay pretty much $18 (1800 silver) to get the last catalyst for arbalest rn

[cobalt beacon]

🤩

[thorny frost]

To get all the copies of a battle pass weapon (utilizing in game means too) it is about 15 dollars a battle pass if you are willing to wait till the end of the month and spend black market tokens.

[pulsar coral]

or save tokens from the battle pass, don’t gotta max every weapon from it, like the furies was a pass for me

[true mauve]

If you dont spend for the lightbearer why spend for their weapon?

[fallow hound]

How do black market tokens get you a copy?

[pulsar coral]

you gotta own all the cattys and it opens another token slot

[fallow hound]

50k black market coins for 10 bp tokens good lord

[twilit thistle]

Not worth the photons. Better to distribute everything, because when (Insert element here) + (Insert shinka type here) comes around youll regret it.

[fallow hound]

All my black market coins going towards superposed photons

[wheat ferry]

Yes black market is the biggest scam in the game fr

[thorny frost]

You exchange them for the item in the shop, 50 k per 10 of the currency. The math for 15 dollars works out like:
10 dollars for battle pass plus, gets you 2 copies of the weapon + 40 of the currency to buy the discounted one, and 30 from the pass bringing it down to 30 currency. 150k to get the last 30, which you get 20k at least free each week (80k in a month) and the tree pass (at least 45k) if you are unlucky and don’t get enough from other means (you can get more then 45k from the tree and more then 80k from weeklies) you can spend the 300 silver to get the remainder needed.

[velvet mango]

lol what’s with DR doing three notifications back to back every five minutes.

[twilit thistle]

I agree with DaNiElLe. The black market has two options, and those are the first two. Even then, if u choose cores over photons what are you even doing.

[pulsar coral]

strict photon only guy right here lol, the drop rate is shiddy poopoo kaka

[fallow hound]

Yeah i gotta stick with photons

[wheat ferry]

Yeah I tend not to buy much but I make sure I buy 30 BM tokens for each BP weapon

[twilit thistle]

Only one ive ever upgraded is furies, and i regret doing it. I never end up needing them, once you get coverage for each shinka+element and have everyone at 72k and properly built, nothing matters.

[thorny frost]

They were talking about spending 18 dollars to get the last copy. I was giving a way to get every copy for 15 dollars. Honestly the photons/battle pass tokens are what I consider the only useful things to buy. The bottles can be farmed without rng, and as it is easier to get T9 on artifacts with them being lvl 85, not as important to push for refrators as before.

[wheat ferry]

I've only got uh the drill and TLW fully maxed from BP weapons. Everything else i got the copies sitting in the backpack😂

[thorny frost]

I honestly save 180k black market currency, buy all three of the battle pass, 3 of the photons, and 1 of the bottles to get the 7 purchase item track. By buying the bottles for the 7th item I can technically sell them back for more than they costed.

[twilit thistle]

*and the ships that you can get from the black market matter @indigo solar *

[thorny frost]

I don’t get those anymore XD

[wheat ferry]

They decided to make them 1 time purchases smh

[indigo solar]

Mismatched won't be better usually, since they level up linearly. A 10% DR is better than two 5% DRs, and I don't think shield and overshield gains stack multiplicatively but I could be wrong. If they do, they would be the only ones worth splitting besides like, elemental attributes to be able to trigger healing from multiple damage types

[thorny frost]

Did they really? I just assumed they are limited quantities. People were talking about not being able to buy them anymore before I ran into it.

[indigo solar]

It should be one tap with most combos, if not all

[pulsar coral]

it was cheaper to buy them from the black market than it was with actual silver, probably why they did it

[bitter estuary]

me when

when the crota's end queue suspiciously active

[wheat ferry]

Don't want people getting cheap summons

F the whales😂🤣

[echo horizon]

Hypermia or glutton?

[twilit thistle]

100% agree, was going into 🐳 strats for dealing with netease. I typically push for boycotting right now. It’s not about saving money, it’s about showing netease that I don’t support their behavior.

[fallow hound]

Do you y'all think this game lasts till the end of the year?

[thorny frost]

When I level up an alt I will check that. From how it was being talked about early on I swear it has always had a limit.

[weak ginkgo]

yes

[twilit thistle]

Not talking about that. We were looking at the other perks that had cooldowns. Those are typically a bit more useful than the main parts, like +50% health. (This only applies to slot 1 and 2)

[pulsar coral]

says a whale😂🤔

[wheat ferry]

The limit is 1. They have offers which is 1 boat, 3 boats or 5 boats so if you bought the 1 boat you missed of on the 3 and 5 discounts

[wheat ferry]

Yeah netease saying f the whales😒

[thorny frost]

Has a new account that have never boughten the battle pass boats tried this to verify?

[twilit thistle]

Whales saying fug netease

[karmic chasm]

Damn, anti environmentalists

[wheat ferry]

We just know netease doesn't have a functioning sales department

[rotund flame]

Same, wish we refund materials for exotic weapons. Kinda of like exotic mods

[twilit thistle]

I think you meant to say “We just know netease doesn't have any functioning departments”

[thorny frost]

And that is fair, easiest way to show discontent would be boycotting. My line will probably be season 4. While I don’t like how they implemented GM story, and the new mode is definitely not what I wanted, I wasn’t even expecting anything like that this early in a gacha game life. Genshin had a lot less meaningful update by this point XD.

[wheat ferry]

No events team, no sales team, no content team. Netease stepped out to get milk on DR and ain't coming back🥺

[rotund flame]

Nah first event were kinda bad. They used to cost stamina and the rewards weren't anything special. Glad they changed it

[karmic chasm]

They don’t have a functioning department

[twilit thistle]

Every day I see another bug. Today’s was an animation for 10 pulls playing, just because I pulled kabr on my alt (I pulled once). Netease is not maintaining this, and what talent they had is gone. If they can’t even keep bugs from happening when you spend money, why take it seriously? QC is nonexistent lol. We might not see s4, and not bc of EOS. Because the game won’t even open 😂 and keeps crashing

[thorny frost]

I was going for design wise, first event was bad. Their Tower defense event was not as flushed out as ours is, the dragonspire came…. 3 months after release? (Or was it 4.5 months?) and besides that they gave like a couple more enemies and one boss battle within the first 6 months with minor events I would of related towards like our snowball fight events.

We have gotten 3 blitzes, and while a raid already done in Destiny it still took programming into this media. And we are slated for another raid and small area expansion come end of March, which would be about 7 months? This isn’t a small amount of content for a new gacha from my experience, there are probably some that definitely have more, and the replayability of said content is also questionable (and that some of it was definitely finished prior to release but that is all gachas I bet).

[pulsar coral]

load into something as wolf first person and use an ability and watch you game spazz out for a few seconds, makes things pretty difficult when you can’t turn around properly unless you aim or switch to third person and then back lol

[wheat ferry]

Crotas end was supposed to be in the September update but they brought it forward because they'll EOS the game after/during S4 lol

[bold thunder]

I think the quality is more concerning than the quantity

Most of the content since fairly early on, with the exception of crota, has been fairly shallow and/or broken

[rotund flame]

True, I'm already sick of event re skins. I don't know how many times I can run into the pits in different styles anymore 😭

[twilit thistle]

The biggest difference between a jr dev and a senior dev is the jr dev outputs up to 10x more lines of code than the sr dev. That’s bc the senior dev does it in fewer lines, and also knows the more you write the more you have to maintain.

[bold thunder]

Also the Jr dev is probably just blindly copying off of some chat bot at this point

[wheat ferry]

Let's give AI a chance already

[rotund flame]

Probably using chat gpt like people used to say lol

[bold thunder]

There's a difference between using AI to cut down on boilerplate and using AI to code your entire project

If they didn't do the work, they usually don't know how to maintain the work

[thorny frost]

Mobile game quality is always questionable (if Bethesda is making the game then any game lol), I use Genshin as a reference a lot because of how big it was and how many people glazed it for so long. Its events tend to not be anything special, biggest thing they get points for is their map development. Most events are “hey you are in an arena kill these mobs with these modifiers” it feels.

[karmic chasm]

I’m gonna marry an AI

[wheat ferry]

People marry anime characters in Japan lol

[thorny frost]

Not trying to give netease a pass, but this is why I am waiting for season 4. If they put out a good season 4 then I could understand where some of the development time has gone.

[rotund flame]

New limited character better have a fun kit and decent appearance

[bold thunder]

I mean Genshin is from a different time though, when the genre was fairly fresh and there was very little competition

[thorny frost]

The newest event should have had different strikes at least for the different stages >.>. Still wish it was more of a wave based format with survival being the big thing/not as many small mobs.

[wheat ferry]

They don't list a new character for S4 either lol

[bold thunder]

If it were released now, I doubt it would've found the same success

[karmic chasm]

Real real real Umeko I’m coming for you bro

[fallow hound]

They need to release this game on switch 2

[wheat ferry]

Capped at 30 fps

[rotund flame]

I was expecting a wave type game mode or something like chaos but for co op. Even a 6 player calamity ops would have been interesting like the grandmaster activities

[karmic chasm]

3 players will download it

[thorny frost]

It probably wouldn’t have, I think Covid actually helped it. I know a couple of my mobile games stopped making content around that time and died. But the few other games I have tried since then has had similar early release. I personally haven’t tried one with any thing big being released within ~6 months of release. Maybe the 2 bigger ones I have heard of recently did but I have no clue (never played Wuwu or PGR I think the acronym is).

[rotund flame]

Covid carried the hell out of gesnshin. Nobody would play that slop if it was released nowadays. Crazy how many people played it because they had nothing to do lol

[indigo solar]

Oh yeah I guess but usually in the content where those matter they would trigger simultaneously, no? Also I did the math on some a couple days ago and even when they were ready to proc a flat DR or health boost gave more survivability iirc

[thorny frost]

I had fun with it on release, but realized it was just a solo exploration game and the coop was pitiful so I think I stopped playing around the 6 month mark (which is why that is as far as my memory goes). Picked it up for a few months 5 years later and had some fun exploring new areas, but that is all it really seems to give…. And I can’t get major story events as they were limited time.

[fallow hound]

Star wars hunters got me traumatized I'm not ready for EOS on this game

[swift sage]

Do you need to get a certain rank to unlock stages 8+ in cordon ops?

I’ve completed up to 8 on two characters and 8-10 are locked still

[pulsar coral]

need better scores i’d assume

[fervent nexus]

wow using xaun is intresting

[twilit thistle]

simultaneously=redundant, and is not what I would want happening. Ex: Overshield every 10/25s blocks the first hit. Shield goes next, and taking the second hit and is now on a 25s cooldown, ranged damage assistance takes the 3rd hit, and is now on a 30s cooldown.

[indigo solar]

Exactly. That's the problem though, you usually won't be taking hits that bring you to <50% total health but not shieldless

Also sorry for the slow responses I'm busy tonight

[twilit thistle]

👀 are u sure bout that?

[indigo solar]

But if you remind me tomorrow I'll find the math I did (it's in another server) but yeah pretty sure a flat health boost is better than the instant boosts, and a DR boost definitely is

[indigo solar]

In high-end content yeah

Big threats are the one tap snipers

[twilit thistle]

U know this is me we are talking about lol right? I have the stupidest artifacts at 3000. The ones u hate

the WORST ones. 😂 like one that gives u +90% shield on Estella bc i said yolo

[twilit thistle]

Not high end content, high end idiocy.

[indigo solar]

I mean shield isn't terrible on her as long as you're running abundant planetesimal/conversion

Oh wait the artifact not the attribute

Yeah...

Idk I mean how strong is her talent healing

Planetesimal may not be necessary

[true mauve]

This is what I got stacked to tier 9 and tier 10

[twilit thistle]

Oh u know i didnt do that, bc u didnt tell me to do it 💀 her summons have the +50% health that i lost

[true mauve]

Base dmg resist, extra shield extra health and recovery speedup +recov dont break when hit

[true mauve]

Whats your thoughts on slot2 Plasma arti? I kinda love it

[twilit thistle]

I cant wait for my tankhest to be built. I looked into that, and i saw i had ability and sig boost. Think that just boosts healing/over shields even further. I think most ppl are getting to that now, bc every expanse u get enough refactors to get 1 artifact up to 3,000, or numerous to 2900 (depending on what you want).

[summer kernel]

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[indigo solar]

You need elemental my guy, everything in this game is elemental damage besides fall damage

[indigo solar]

Could be very good but definitely content-dependent

Nigh-useless vs most fallen content for example

That's... why I said everything is elemental?

Except fall damage

Like even radiolaria is arc damage

Piercing/impact shinka are void iirc

[scenic wigeon]

Elemental dmg... and every weapon is an element

[bold thunder]

Me when my izinagi is solar all of the sudden for some reason

[indigo solar]

Well it doesn't really matter what your weapons are, but the enemies'

But yeah all of theirs are elemental too

[indigo solar]

Real

And void rabbit

[scenic wigeon]

Fallen is arc, servetors are void, cabal is solar...

I like rising... alot of the weapons are just fallen weapons but... ours now

[indigo solar]

It's actually some pretty cool lore if you read it, it's an Eliksni and human working together to build weapons that combine benefits of both

[scenic wigeon]

Ergonomics of a normal gun?

[indigo solar]

I just wish individual guns had lore

Besides exotics

[scenic wigeon]

Ah yes

[twilit thistle]

ALL THE THINGS*

[scenic wigeon]

RwR

[indigo solar]

????

Who thinks that

@true mauve 11/12

[bold thunder]

To be fair, at least in d2 a ton of people don't know about enemies dealing specific elemental damage apparently

I ran across it a lot when I taught dsc back in the day and told people to put arc resist on for atraks

[true mauve]

Uhhh end game content. Crazy enough with recov substat Ning clone buys enough time to get Plasma stacks back

Elemental Resist > Health or Shield? Or doesnt matter which?

[twilit thistle]

😭 but it comes from the elemental modifier of the activity wdym

[true mauve]

Be on soon, just took a break to put kid to bed. Boottii changed his name to WARDEN just fyi 🤣

Omg 😭 😭 😭 im so sorrry

I didnt know they did that 😭

[severe rose]

It’s for reporting messages.

Oookay

That’s a ban

[true mauve]

It wasnt before

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[severe rose]

Yeeet

[true mauve]

That was a cool bro

[tight talon]

jeez, second day of not logging in consecutively

[true mauve]

He said something wild but dont think he was like that

[tight talon]

my leaves are cooked

[twilit thistle]

She had a lot of caffeine that contributed to it.

[severe rose]

Even joking about anything like that is an instant ban per Discord ToS.

[true mauve]

Nah. Re-Sign In exists for up to 3 days and bounties/pinnacle take 3 days to cap also

[tight talon]

Yeah i didnt buy the leaf pass

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-2813086212540319582

[true mauve]

Understood, np. Just wanted to clear the air for him atleast if someone did see it out of context

[indigo solar]

Did you hammer react lmao

[indigo solar]

Not just "endgame" but like enemy types

Most fallen are rapid fire, which it's not good against

It's decent against hive tho, besides ogres

And mediocre vs vex

[true mauve]

I play on controller, its not often I actually get hit

[severe rose]

I’ll hammer react you

[true mauve]

Dang its like that is it

[twilit thistle]

Controller on Ning actually has no difference, I was surprised when I began asking around. I don’t think it gives as much advantage for all situations.

[true mauve]

Its just more fluid movement for me, I have it down its Dash, Jump, Jump, Dash, Jump, Jump, Repeat

[twilit thistle]

Slide

[true mauve]

Anytime you get slight stalled smash a clone or lightning slam

Sorry slide not dash*

[twilit thistle]

Jump when you shoot slide when you move.

[true mauve]

I got a rythm to it, dodge 90% of shots. Piercing shinka just stupid aimbot

[scenic wigeon]

I like that sliding in rising g is faster than sprinting

[severe rose]

cHeAtInG?!

[scenic wigeon]

Unlike d2

[severe rose]

Why run when you can scrape your body along the floor at Mk. 1

[scenic wigeon]

I mean

We are wearing like ... INCHES of armour

[molten pulsar]

The game hates me so much. I STILL don't have Stone Hoof

[tight talon]

Normal clothes

[twilit thistle]

It actually makes little to no difference for speed, faster yes, but not by much bc of how small the maps are.

[scenic wigeon]

Yeah.... normal.... got it...

[tight talon]

Thats just Aesthetics for Iron Lords

case in point

[violet sonnet]

Attal Cosplay when

[tight talon]

case in point 2

[twilit thistle]

👀 220!?

[hushed crown]

[severe rose]

T pose without the t pose

[true mauve]

The faster slide outpaces the enemy shots. It also speeds up your jump. Thats why slide, jump, jump dodges everything

[tight talon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-creed-in-your-dreams-dreams-gif-25984561

[violet sonnet]

C o w a r d

[twilit thistle]

To b expected I guess bc that whole system is broken. Thats like what, 100 of the normal mode chaos stages? 40 mins 😭 with 1 brain cell. I was going to push that till I found out how easy it was getting, then I just kinda quit playing DR as much. Proficiency is not a show of dedication like it used to be.

[indigo solar]

At least buy me dinner first

[true mauve]

I aint shaving my legs

[severe rose]

[violet sonnet]

i dont think cosplaying attal requires one to shave their legs given they arent even visible

[twilit thistle]

Btw @indigo solar the answer was normal mode, 2 fletched arrows, everything crits, fire rate, aoe, and dmg. It’s not going to make it faster but it requires no skill. 20 mins per 50 stages.

[scenic wigeon]

Perfect cospay for me would be estela... already brunnete and slightly shorter than average... just need to transition sooner than later (I procrastinate alot of things)

Just gotta grow my hair out more

[topaz shore]

hey guys, why doesn't my gyro work even though its enabled (I have dualsense)

[scenic wigeon]

Gyro is for phone only i think.... idk about the six axis in Playstation remotes

[versed scroll]

Do we have news for Season 4?

[tight talon]

Forget season 4

we got act 2 in 11 days

thats gonna last until March

[versed scroll]

But we'll have Season 4 right?

[tight talon]

if you are gonna be around till March 26 then yes

[versed scroll]

Nice!

[twilit thistle]

Hopefully the games code lasts till s4 tho it’s getting very buggy

[tight talon]

i pray for 5 devs that need to write on papyrus just to push good code biweekly when the moon falls at 45' 384" at 3 am

[twilit thistle]

I will notify the 5 instances of chatgpt codex running in visual studio code of this.

[tight talon]

i hope they dont complain about increased workload in CNY. I dont wanna be hated if they cant give red pouches to themselves

[tropic swift]

Destiny: Rising - PS1 Edition

[twilit thistle]

💀

[indigo solar]

Nah necrosis is trying to say I don't know ball when it comes to testing 💀

(And also some incorrect stuff about burst firing weapons but w/e)

[true mauve]

Necrosis is necrosis lol

Dont read into what he says

Ikora is crazy good at PvP

[indigo solar]

Damn, off game for bootii

Man got more than 5 deaths

[stiff breach]

is there any good roll for swordbreaker

[vast patrol]

Need people to grind the game with im a new
Player 😭😂💯

[stiff breach]

what do you need help with

[twilit thistle]

…it’s bc they aren’t getting in q as a fireteam so 1 can leave. I experienced it earlier.

[tight talon]

https://tenor.com/view/carga-gif-18817111

[bold thunder]

How does leaving an IB match work? Could people fill to get the game to start and then leave?

[versed scroll]

Guys, can you give me the best artifact setup for Maru?

[red geyser]

[dusty spire]

Monthly reset it is

[supple nymph]

Who is the next hero? Pls not ikora, I hate that bald headed bitthc

[dusty spire]

Then it may possibly be a skip for you

[modern pasture]

I mean they gonna probably do a massive rework if it is her

[supple nymph]

Give us a new character. Rezyl azzar, shin malphur, Lysander, Ana bray, shaax, anyone

Kabr remix was just lazy and low effort

[devout void]

Too much work when they can do Ikora 2.0

[supple nymph]

And that’s the problem. Games dying

Jaren ward was peak. Now it’s on life support

[karmic chasm]

Cayde

[quaint flame]

kabr remix was fun, just maybe too early

[karmic chasm]

I quite like him but yea, way to early

Especially with Helhest’s current dominance

[quaint flame]

I do love his barrier

so comfy, I am gonna build him once I finish helhest ahaha

[river crypt]

Evwrything but attal (my main)

[drowsy cypress]

500k revenue from jan 2026

around 60% less than dec

[mental sequoia]

Is there anything else that FEELS as good as or as varied as Destiny? I've tried so many shooters but nothing hits the same. Just tried Highguard. Played Apex, CoD, BF6. Nothing. Titanfall 2 back in the day did sorta. Rising has KINDA but its mobile. Recommendations?

[dusty spire]

The flex is AAA single player games this year

Or be looped into competitive environments

[naive ingot]

Destiny 2 😂 maybe borderlands

[dusty spire]

We have releases this year worthy of your money.

Remember AAA single player

[devout void]

We dont know the number but a decent ammount of the revenue are from Mumu and their chinese top up website

No idea if it represents more than the Apple/Android shop, but it's certainly significant.

[dusty spire]

Yeah I’m sure they also receive rev outside of these stores

Smart spenders will look around Apple/andriod for better pricing

[devout void]

All the player I played with use that for their T6, battlepass, bless of tree so

But we will never know until they share it

[dusty spire]

Apple direct and Android is much more :/

[devout void]

Regarding third-party websites, I don't know if the calculation includes mobile shops; often they buy from the game's website from another country.

[naive ingot]

Or buying gift cards and adding funds that way

[gaunt gust]

Just get back to the game after 1 week of my vacation, can anyone explain the new legendary camp for me:))because as i see it basically the challenge mode of the camp but a little harder but the reward stay the same

[drowsy cypress]

Lol netease remove xsolla payment options fir Russia. Well done🤣

[gaunt gust]

Doing it like this wont make the game last for long i think the devs should seriously put their effort in making a rank pvp mode where the ladder have more reward and should be most of the reward, and make a lots new pvp map too, that will make a live service game last long and more competitive, this game is still so good for now pls dont put it in the same track as d2:((((

A lots of people on mobile gonna pay and they gonna pay willingly if the content was good enough because we all know to sustain a good game u guys need money. So sad but tbh the new legendary camp and the cordon operation feel like the most low efforts events u guy have announced since the lauch day.

[devout void]

Yea its more to waste pinnacle quickly very disapointing

[empty kettle]

Game feels more like a open beta than a fully released game

[dusty spire]

Just a live game progressing over time

Like the rest

My only beef with cordon is that it became to character specific because of the mods

It sounded like all heroes called have been used

However it’s gated behind weapons types and particular hero capabilities

This is not even viable imo

[devout void]

Disrespect for their first spenders we will never play gwynn estella again

[wheat ferry]

They just need buffs and content they can br run in lol

[devout void]

More money if they do gwynn 2.0 than buff 🥲

[gritty rune]

Nah, D2 is in a far better state than this game

We have no new story missions since launch, no weapons to chase, no cosmetics, and just nothing to do besides piss bottle farming

[short locust]

DR can't survive with this model imo

[gusty bridge]

My friend and i downloaded d2 and the expansions were on sale. Weve been playing that for 2 weeks now… bungie and their parkour puzzles 😂😂😂

[gritty rune]

Gacha is garbage and I’d rather it be like WWM’s model, but the issue isn’t the model.

We don’t have enough base content to keep people occupied like WuWa and Genshin does, and the endgame loop is just awful

[wheat ferry]

Sadly the expansions are kind of moot at this point

[devout void]

a gacha that is scared to make you buy something when other have many cool banner

[gritty rune]

The model makes already existing problems worse but even if this was like, Warframe or D2, it’d still be a failing game

[wary bear]

That said d2 is still in a bad spot

Thry should just reach a good turning point in the fate saga then switch to d3

[gritty rune]

Yeah but I don’t think it’s on route to EoS like this game lol

[wary bear]

A complete reset with enough stuff to chase on launch day would be the bestway to bring players back

[gritty rune]

NetEase pretty much just abandoned this game tbh

[wary bear]

Hopefully its sold to someone else

[gritty rune]

Zero marketing, no effort to hype up any future content.

[gritty rune]

Why would anyone buy it?

[short locust]

Part of the endgame loop is the gatcha model, rotating shinkas/elements, and hesitation on balancing things for variety. Saying it's not the model isn't thinking things through

[wary bear]

Its not like it doesnt have a fan base or demand the only issue is that destinys 2 reputation itself is bad currently

If destiny 2 was stable this game would've done better as well

[gritty rune]

‘Hey wanna buy this game that has declining revenues for 5 month straight and is bleeding players?’

[wary bear]

Doesn't mean its not salvageable with enough changes

[short locust]

Needs a relaunch, with fundamental overhauls

[gritty rune]

The fanbase is shrinking hard, and it’s got nothing to do with D2.

Even if D2 was as popular with its fans as Warframe is, this game would still be dying cos it can’t stand on its own

[wary bear]

If D2 had a loyal fanbase (which mostly dissappeared since fianl shape) any destiny title on launch wouldve pulled bjg numbers

And with enough qol changes

It could be able to stand on its own even with slow updates

[gritty rune]

But this game did pull big numbers on release. 11m revenue on month 1.

Then it just fell hard cos the endgame wasn’t keeping people around

[wary bear]

As i said it requires a lot of qol changes

[short locust]

I've never seen a community as dire hard as Destiny's. Even if no one is playing, their ears will perk up at good news

[gaunt gust]

Yeah bc it hasn’t even reach the first year anniversary so the story line we can wait but i hope that they are really making it, if they are not focusing on progressing the story line then focus on making good pvp content, which make others looter shooter game live long:))pls don’t ruin the game because it is still new and have a lots of space to progress

[gritty rune]

It requires everything from QoL to actual endgame with actual loot that isn’t boring as cardboard lol

Like, the state of this game is a mess

[empty kettle]

Even in darkness the light will always find a way to escape

[wary bear]

Also i dont understand how theres so few stuff in this game loot wise, dont they have access to d2s assets?

[gritty rune]

I’m not expecting much with the story campaign at this point after Maru and Jaren’s

[wary bear]

They surely could've just dumped some weapons from d1 and d2 in here

[gritty rune]

Like compare those two to Estella and Gwynn. They aren’t even quests from the same game

[short locust]

I don't see DR surviving without a complete overhaul and relaunch. The changes required are far too large to be just updates

[wary bear]

Its funny how no d2 killers are coming out when d2 is in its most vulnerable state

[gritty rune]

We got FOUR pieces of new content and all of them are basically DoA

[empty kettle]

It's better to become anything else but a destiny killer

[gaunt gust]

Haha yeah bc the gameplay and the mechanic of destiny franchise is the thing that i can’t find anywhere else and it keep bringing me back:((but so sad all the devs of the mobile and pc version want is quick big stack of cash, not a good playerbase and a strong community:(((

[wary bear]

Whats insane is that dr is somehow pulling 50%ish of d2s current players

[gritty rune]

And nah, you aren’t ever making PvP in a gacha game popular

[wary bear]

Pvp in gachas shouldnt even exist in the first placr

[gritty rune]

Especially a shooter where most people are playing on mobile

[short locust]

Another reason the model doesn't work

[wary bear]

Its the dumbest thing that can possibly be added

[gritty rune]

Like, you don’t stand a chance against K&M players lol

[empty kettle]

S4 will either make this game better or break it

[gaunt gust]

If they really put their effort in the ranking system of the pvp mode i think the scenario will be much different

[gritty rune]

I like how we’re not even halfway through S3 and it’s already ‘s4 is the make or break’ lol

[short locust]

S4 will reveal intentions, and if it's not going all in on solving this, the alternative is EoS

[gritty rune]

We said ‘S3 is gonna be the make or break’ in S2

[empty kettle]

S4 actually has "some" content meat to it

[gritty rune]

How? K&M players have a huge advantage over mobile, people who have talents have an upper hand, gacha players aren’t really interested in PvP to start with

PvP was never gonna be a thing

[gaunt gust]

At least i got my lesson from D2 and hasn’t spent a single penny on this game, so if it gotta die, it will still be a good memory:))

[gritty rune]

So did this season. We just had 4 content drops and they’re all crap or dead cos the loot is bad

[cyan tide]

S4 was always gonna be the make or break because that's supposed to be one of the big updates

[gritty rune]

I remember people saying S3 has the TD mode and raid so would help the game

TD mode is garbage and raid was dead after like 1 week

[wheat ferry]

DRs issue is loot is too east to get. Remove the engrams so people have to play the game

[empty kettle]

It would keep us temporarily fed until s4

[gaunt gust]

Yeah there is a lots of problem now but the main problem is do they wanna solve it and start thinking about how to do it or just want to release another gacha roll and low effort update

[devout void]

At first, it was very P2W, a lot of FOMO to spend money, then they had some controversy over their practices, the black market, and the Last Word skin, so I don't know what went through their minds or if they're afraid of upsetting us, but it's much less aggressive than before. They consider their active players broke, a lot of things have become more casual, lots of free boats for Kabr, less P2W. Personally, I'm just waiting for an interesting banner. Go open other gacha games; there are always plenty of active banners. Okay, these are games that have been around for years, but I'm not sure this one will go that far if the devs have lost their passion.

[gritty rune]

There still wouldn’t be.

They just came out with what, 7 new mythic guns and maybe 2 of them are worth building. Even then you aren’t really hyped to build them cos they don’t play any differently

And then we had 1 exotic for the entire raid

[gusty bridge]

Its fun for me. I final shape campaign is good, renegades is very short… trying to get praxic catalysts lol

[short locust]

Tbf, Contest Crota is up there with Destiny 1 and 2s day one experiences. Just the LB fiasco and sub par grind made it fizzle for ppl

[gritty rune]

Doesn’t matter how good it is when there’s no point doing it anymore cos there’s nothing left to get

[short locust]

Yeah we agree on that, I damn near spelled that out, but it wasn't my point

[devout void]

Contest is the best experience this game has given me, regardless of the drama; nothing beats the emotions and the dopamine rush

[gritty rune]

The problem is that yeah it was great, but it didn’t keep players around

You can just see that in this discord

Like remember how busy it was during contest weekend?

[short locust]

Yeah that's not a secret to anyone

[empty kettle]

We got starved of any new 4 star characters after Rossi-11

[short locust]

The point is, it was great. Content in this game can be fun on its own, it just needs to not fumble like TD and have supporting loot systems that keep it relevant

[drowsy cypress]

S4 will be last season im 99% sure

[gritty rune]

Tbh, I don’t think multiplayer is really the answer to keeping players around on a mobile game anyways

Especially not hard content

It needs a much better single player endgame and loot

[devout void]

well it's a limited-time event. Having it all the time would lose its charm. It's the same in D2 when there's a new raid; it brings back a lot of old players, some of whom only come for that then left or stay if they want to do more story, dlc. But at least if D2 players get bored, they have PvP and trials. We don't have much fun to do.

[gritty rune]

The thing is that, what’s supposed to happen is people come for the new raid, and then they stay around because they find the rest of the game fun as well

We’re not seeing that

[drowsy cypress]

And, as u can see, we still dont get really nee zones in S4, no new heroes (i guess its will be retuns Hellhest, Jaren and EOStella), thay just release all already done content and EOS

[devout void]

A game like this can't have a new raid or story every week, but it should at least offer interesting events, not an identical campaign x80 Pinnacle, or a sloppy AI from Calam and Morgran, when the initial wording gave the impression of something cool with waves, character selection more than Helhest, and tactics.

[gritty rune]

Personally I think they should have had the NPE and endgame revamp before crota

A new raid isn’t gonna make the playerbase go up if everything else is a mess

[empty kettle]

Good thing we are getting seasonal campaigns

[gritty rune]

And now they lost the opportunity

[gritty rune]

The problem is that, the basically copied Genshin and WuWa’s content model, so they have to constant pump out new content cos that’s what sells those games

But they aren’t doing that

[devout void]

Not necessarily difficult, but at least something that makes you want to play. Trials would be a bonus; there are plenty of mobile PvP games with large communities, but perhaps they shouldn't see it solely as a mobile game. It was their alternative because they were prohibited from using Steam and the PS Store, but I'm sure many of their active players, many of those who are on their leaderboard are primarily on PC. They need to respect everyone, and also respect their early fans, those who invested in Gwynn/Estella without the game necessarily revolving around Helhest (or Jarren, as it has for the past two months).

And sometimes competing games come out; he should be more active when that happens, to prevent players from abandoning their game for something more interesting.

[naive ingot]

"nothing new under the sun, as always". Void impact when? When we have had arc piercing twice already.

[drowsy cypress]

Campain in old undeveloped RsR section 🤣

[gritty rune]

Most pf those pvp mobile games like codm aren’t gacha though.

And I reckon most of the playerbase is on mobile because once it comes to PC you’re competing against D2, Warframe etc which are much better games

[drowsy cypress]

no new zones

[empty kettle]

Hopefully that they implement the seasonal artifact system

[devout void]

I don't know, there are educated people paid to think about how a gacha game works, how to monetize it, how to retain its players. It's strange that it's a Discord server explaining their job to them. They might one day complain that it doesn't bring in enough money, but they haven't even tried to fully exploit the universe they bought through popular characters and interesting skins.

[gritty rune]

And tbh, a big competing game for mobile is Where Winds Meet, cos you can see the activity in this game drop when WWM mobile came out

And thats also NetEase’s game lol

Which part of the issue because they have rivals and WWM so they don’t really care much about DR

[devout void]

I don't know, the numbers aren't available, Of course there are "better games" on PC, but we have the right to focus on this one, for many reasons., the PC gamers who have chosen to play this since September out of passion and love, but the developers are killing that love. In any case, if you were to look at a top 100 list on any leaderboard, it would show a large number of PC gamers probably

[naive ingot]

WWM is also on pc and console though

[gaunt gust]

I see that we all want this game to live long and be better why dont we do something practical like sending a mail for the devs team

[empty kettle]

Well it is a open beta (which they didn't tell us earlier until we discovered CN open beta) which means the actual campaign was incomplete

[gaunt gust]

I see that we all want this game to live long and be better why dont we do something practical like sending a mail for the devs team

I think with enough efforts they will listen

[gritty rune]

But the top 100 aren’t most players, they’re a niche group who compete

[drowsy cypress]

thay have bot on email

[devout void]

Have a few pack mate left for Endfield also, and yea before that a few for WWM

[devout void]

Yes, but it still represents a player base, and they can respect them in a way. That niche group that buys the latest T6 immediately after every update.

[gritty rune]

The bread and butter for gachas has always been the casual dolphins and whales

[devout void]

Managing PC and mobile players isn't easy; they have to keep everyone happy. But I think they sometimes gauge the difficulty based on the PC. I still haven't seen a clip of six mobile players clearing Contest (the true one). It might be possible by gathering all the "best mobile players," but in reality, it wasn't like that. Maybe one mobile player on some teams, sometimes more.

[gritty rune]

They do not make content around pc, like look at the difficulty of everything that’s not contest

And honestly contest is not a yardstick for what people want cos maybe like 1% of the playerbase does it

[devout void]

Im only speaking about Contest

[gritty rune]

The two most played content is probably Chaos and LC, which is what they should improve imo

Cos that’s what people do on a daily basis

[devout void]

There's nothing difficult about it apart from that; the only challenge would be to be high in the leaderboard

[gritty rune]

Point is, I don’t think difficulty is gonna bring people back or really is something most players want

Contest happens once a season maybe for 1 weekend

[devout void]

I never said anything of that

[gritty rune]

What’s gonna save this game if anything is the daily farm

That should be their focus imo

[tight talon]

Ironic we don't get GM Chaos. With a chance to drop guaranteed Exotic Mod at like 120 Resin

[devout void]

Why does it seem crazy for you to say that a majority of their most dedicated players, the ones who push their game to the absolute limit, who occupy the most spots on the leaderboards (I didn't choose it to be a speedrunning game, NetEase did), and who, with each update, to stay within their niche group, get the latest T6 character are on PC? Is it my fault? Just facts that can be proven, I think. I don't know, Netease decided to base the game around this, so they must appreciate players who invest in their idea too; they even do interviews with their world firsts.

So yes, these players also need to be taken care of, which is why some events are sometimes "hard," but very limited because otherwise it would discourage their ultra casual community.

And yes, if they sell T6 characters, they have to create artificial difficulty sometimes. Is it fun to do Chaos and one shot everything ? You don't need T6 characters for that, so they have no revenue. Cordon was a cool idea but they ruined everything, Expanse is a good challenge sometime. Calam become a chore for many players.

Yes, the Contest has fair play, which is already a nice gesture on their part, but we can't have that all the time, otherwise we wouldn't buy anything anymore. I'm just saying we need to please everyone; there's no fun in having a new event that you clear in an hour. And yes, on a daily basis put things to keep busy rather than spending Pinnacle as a chore in Iron Commander. You don't agree with PvP, but it's PvP that kept D1/D2 alive precisely because outside of DLC the routine is boring once you are done. Without Trials, the game would have closed a long time ago. It wasn't Gambit that did retention.

I just want to spend money and support the game when I can, but I don't know, the Kabr banner is way too long, and it's kind of disrespectful to say the character will end up in the permanent banner. Did that really encourage many players to invest real money ? Sure, Kabr and Titan fans, but they could have avoided that and made it limited.

[short locust]

I'm a big fan of having characters have a permanent way of being pulled. Chucking him into the perma banner is a bit scuffed, but limited banners and reruns is a disaster for fomo

[verbal sluice]

Having p2w in destiny is just not the way to go, especially of they want to gain audience from d2 and especially not how they f’ed eyverythinh with helhest

[gritty rune]

I like how everyone just calls stamina points in every game resin since Genshin lol

[gritty rune]

I’m not saying it’s ’crazy’, I’m saying that catering to them won’t save the game.

They need to work on the bread and butter content. Daily grind, events etc

Gacha gamers are mostly casual, the whales too, which is why the core content in none of them are hard. That’s the market they chose.

[devout void]

Having so many leaderboards or rewards tied to being high in an activity was not their right choice then.

Turning Destiny into a gacha game was also terrible; it would have been more popular with cute girls like all the other games.

[tight talon]

Lmaoo

[gritty rune]

Yeah it’s not really. That’s why being on leaderboards just gives you a title that no one cares about.

They just throw the net wide.

[devout void]

well calam give you more than that and for netease its their end game or a rewards for their good customer, it help when you have T6 Helhest

Caring or not, all the game menus are linked to that, so as you say, if the majority are casual players but also whales, there's a small element of frustration for them, so why do they want to spend money? To progress faster in chaos or pack hunts?

[gritty rune]

It gives you like, 2 pulls? Between master I and overseer.

Which is basically what other gacha games kind Honkai 3rd does for ranked content too

[gritty rune]

They spend money because they want the shiny stuff. Like why do people spend money on Lambos irl when they aren’t going higher than 30mph on a road

Like Genshin’s abyss used to be literally any invested team that makes sense can clear it before the recent BS bosses, and it was still one of the most profitable games ever made lol

[devout void]

Yes, well, I'm sure many whales or casual players aren't Master rank, at least not right after the seasonal reset, and have to wait a few cycle, for a lot of players to climb before they get their promotion spot from Expert. That's what I'm saying. In any case, they've chosen to offer a game focused on speed and skill, and even a T6 isn't everything. So yes, it frustrates their casual/casual whale community, since you wanted to focus on them.

[bitter estuary]

guys is na crota braindead i might make a fresh acc and start there to enjoy crota

[gritty rune]

I don’t think the casual whales care much about rewards from calamity lol

You’re getting like, £10 in rewards extra from expert 1 to overseer?

[devout void]

It's still frustrating to spend money to play in Specialist , but maybe we have different brains then. Good for them if they're not frustrated about missing out on rewards and continue to fund the game 🙂

[gritty rune]

But yeah it probably pisses off casual F2Ps which is partially why this game isn’t popular

[devout void]

It's not just about the money received, but a feeling of accomplishment and taking what's possible in the game you invest in; different mentality maybe

[gritty rune]

If they don’t enjoy calamity ops, I don’t think it frustrates them

[devout void]

Maybe they wish they can enjoy but its just too hard even after buying everything

[gritty rune]

And idk, I kind of wonder how many people actually like CO cos it’s just not fun to me

[gritty rune]

If they wanted a sense of accomplishment they probably won’t whale lol

Cos whaling just makes anything that’s not competitive piss easy

They whale because they get to have all the shiny new toys

[gritty rune]

Speedrunners are a niche in every single game

It’s not about being hard or easy, it’s a style of play which simply doesn’t appeal to most people

[devout void]

It's fun if you play with good people, yea the game is about speedrun you can try to explain them

[gritty rune]

Especially when it involves using unstuck

[gritty rune]

I mean, how many dark souls fans do you reckon do speedrunning?

[devout void]

A team show us last cycle you can do 470k without unstuck so

[gritty rune]

Even though that’s a hard game by default

[devout void]

Not everyone care and nobody force you to that in Souls, just a challenge you put to yourself when here if you dont do that you miss rewards

[gritty rune]

Exactly, so casual whales who don’t enjoy it won’t bother

The rewards mean nothing to them

[devout void]

Then they play a different game, its about that since the launch

[gritty rune]

Or… perhaps there’s other game modes than CO?

Like, CO isn’t the entire game?

[pulsar coral]

destiny rising is calamity and campaign simulator once you get to a certain point lol

[gritty rune]

More like piss bottle farming sim

Cos that’s 99% of the daily content

[pulsar coral]

pretty much lol

[gritty rune]

Like, that’s why the game is dying

[rough sedge]

PvP doesn’t seem like the answer for a game that has mix of PC and mobile, too much ability/skill difference with K&M

[gritty rune]

People don’t like CO and piss farming isn’t exactly high dopamine content

[rough sedge]

I kinda like high risk high reward

[gritty rune]

And their answer to this is just let you piss farm faster lol

[foggy igloo]

Literally can't get a single calamity ops match

how do i get incandescent clusters

[gritty rune]

I was really hoping GM LC was like, some additional gimmicks, and loot table with cosmetics or something

[devout void]

Yea but this is the best for rewards for the moment, especially as F2P so, their choice to not like it, I'd feel bad investing time in a game but skipping modes that earn me so much. I don't even like Cordon or some other things, but I force myself. It's pretty sad to avoid free leaf

[gritty rune]

Like things to chase and get surprised by

[gritty rune]

Well, guess why the game is dying so hard lol

[devout void]

try push a boss kill x3 you will see the dopamine when it work or get the score you need to promote

[gritty rune]

People don’t like forcing themselves to do things they don’t like in a video game

So when you have these annoyances and nothing else to enjoy for them, they leave

[gritty rune]

Nah I just find it a chore lmao

And probably most people

[devout void]

Yes, they wanted a somewhat competitive game; they went all in, offering 10 leaderboards since launch, an endgame based on speed and skill, limited emblem for their best players, but they inherited a community of haters and cry baby, hopefully for Contest they give 2000 emblems to keep quiet the communauty. Unlucky choice from the start, maybe it's not too late to change things if they want to focus on the other player

[gritty rune]

If they wanted a competitive game they wouldn’t have made it a gacha where you need 7 copies to max a character lol

Like, you aren’t being competitive with whales lol

They basically copied Genshin or WuWa, with a bit of Honkai 3rd

Cos those games make a ton of money

[devout void]

It's a plus, but not necessary. At the beginning, most of the most competitive players were F2P on Ningfei. The best Maru in Calam is T1. The contest is fair play, but even more so in terms of speed and skill. But yes, it helps and pleases players who are able to spend money.

[devout void]

I don't know i dont really play game with kid girls

[true mauve]

Game dieing because of T6 HH

She is required for every competitive team

New players cant get her, old players missed out on her, or people with her T6 are quitting.

Game population is low? Lets release more team content not solo

[gritty rune]

But that’s the point.

Competitive players want an even playing ground, so they don’t go to gacha games.

Casuals who populate gachas don’t want to go compete.

So idk what they were trying to cater to cos there’s reason gacha games stopped competitive content

And Helhest came out in S1 and dominated since her release lol

[gritty rune]

NetEase chose to make a game in the market for kid girls so

[devout void]

its ok its give them more money goodluck

[gritty rune]

I don’t think helhest supremacy matters as much as the game just has nothing to do that’s good

Nah I basically quitted for WWM

Came back cos I was hyped about GM LC, finally some promising solo content that’s about shooting things

It’s garbage

[devout void]

And yet these competitive players have stayed, even if they weren't necessarily fans of gacha games at first. Some have invested, while others show us that you can go far without T6 the last limited character. It was the love for Destiny that brought many players back in the beginning, but unfortunately, the developers lost their passion by making a series of bad decisions.

[naive ingot]

Just like bungie...

[gritty rune]

I mean, given that the playerbase is dying and people left in droves, I don’t think most of them have stayed lol

Like none of the notable Destiny CCs or big names stayed in DR after raid weekend

The people that loved Destiny despite all its flaws seem to have just gone back to D2

We’re like on what, a 90% decline in revenue since launch and everything queue is long

[devout void]

Did we even have a decent content creator during the prime of the game ? yea Agent Fyrous give up, and by big names I don't know what you mean, a few left for WWM and now Endfield but we still see the same name in the leaderboard mostly. But yea, we loose a lot of good players

[fallow hound]

What's the best place to try to farm exotic weapons without pinnacle?

[naive ingot]

Strikes, gauntlet

[gritty rune]

Nope. They covered the launch and most of them were actually pretty positive about the game, then they left

[devout void]

its only 1%, but maybe bulwark ops if you can reach wave 15 quick, more chest, 5 chest vs doing strike 5 times

[gritty rune]

So, I don’t think it’s the ‘love for destiny’. Destiny players stick to D2

This game needed to make its own mark on the industry, and it hasn’t

[devout void]

Most content creators are greedy, yes they'll go wherever there's an opportunity, money to be made, unless one of them truly falls in love with a game.

[naive ingot]

I don't stick with D2 as I rather play Rising still

[devout void]

I never even said that, you twist all my sentences

[gritty rune]

I don’t think they’re greedy, they basically had to make a choice between D2 and DR cos it’s not like you run out of things to farm in D2

And they just still prefer D2

Cos you see them coming back in the crota weekend

Then they left again

[devout void]

I dont think it look like D2? I'm only talking about the one content creator who was invested in working hard to advise the community with his videos and spreadsheet; sorry, I don't know all the random on youtube

[neat valley]

I don’t even see the same names In the leaderboards, it used to be totally different players , but now we got new people on top

[gritty rune]

Tbh I think this game is different to Destiny at this point that it is its own thing and needs to stand up itself

[true mauve]

Oh no it matters. Any new player starting has no chance because HH and Jaren are limited and gone. No Jaren? No HH? No friends. Majority of end game groups wont take you.
As a player since launch I find fun using all the characters, we have alot of diff content but it all demands HH or Jaren

[gritty rune]

I mean CCs like Datto and co

[devout void]

Yes, many of the best players I know have switched games. We're not on the same server, but yes, there are a lot of new names. Helhest and the dice have given careers to some new players as well. At the top, I still recognize the names.

[devout void]

I don't think he ever really care after Netease stop giving money

[empty kettle]

What's the state of duet night abyss right now?

[gritty rune]

Yeah but, there’s expanse, LC and other content than CO which you do once every 2 weeks

So, even if they can’t compete in CO, if the other content was good they would have stayed

[true mauve]

ONCE every 2 weeks bro dont even...

[neat valley]

If the game came out with all the content it had right now it would be a banger

[true mauve]

CO is team game I direct referenced

[devout void]

The good player will clean expanse Thursday then be boring

[gritty rune]

Yeah because they prefer sticking to D2

[true mauve]

Nah because they said wow D2 dead and sucks. DR is worse. Time to play WWM

[gritty rune]

Really? Crota is basically DoA, TD is just boring and corden and LC GM wasn’t exactly received well

The game is no better than launch

[cyan tide]

Yep, even with floor 40 clearing both sides of expanse only takes an hour at most

[neat valley]

Dang destiny is gone

Marathon is going to shoot it in the back

[devout void]

Do you understand that NetEase, like all companies, sends money to people to play at the beginning? He wasn't the target audience unless there's an extremely low chance he'll fall in love with the game; these people have other things to do and other projects.

[gritty rune]

And I don’t think CO is keeping people around. Do you?

Not that you need HH for CO anyways

[neat valley]

CO is not even a team one , it’s whoever unstucks better than the other team

so competitive

[gritty rune]

So? Hoyo paid a lot of CCs to play Genshin at the start and there’s a lot of big Genshin CCs, paid by Hoyo or not

[neat valley]

If that’s competitive to yall I don’t even know what competitive games yall have been playing

[devout void]

If I download it today I will have the honey moon phase for many weeks,. Yes, it's annoying because once you're "good" you clear everything quickly, but like many games, even having played other mobile games and gacha games, I would do my daily stuff and then log off, or sometimes take a long break and come back if there was something interesting, like anniversary, event...

[true mauve]

This bro said he hasnt played in forever. He just comes here to bait and talk about a game he doesnt play. @devout void

[gritty rune]

Let’s not go the other extreme either. Just hitting unstuck isn’t gonna get you to top 10

[devout void]

paid by third party website is the good word i think

[gritty rune]

Otherwise id be in top 10 with my T6 Jaren lol

[true mauve]

Think 470k was hit no unstuck

[neat valley]

Yeah how many times

Probably a handful of people

[gritty rune]

Let’s br fair, I did come back for LC GM

[true mauve]

Its possible, maybe yall shouldnt have been practicing unstuck

[gritty rune]

I was hyped for it

[neat valley]

No want wants to practice to get a 10 second improvement

[gritty rune]

Which ngl made me feel worse cos that was garbage

[neat valley]

And stress about another 10 seconds , doesn’t sound competitive at all

[gritty rune]

Have you see what speedrunning in other games is like?

[true mauve]

Then why do we speedrun expanse and play a time based leaderboard game?

[neat valley]

Because we love destiny

[true mauve]

No

[neat valley]

Not because we wanted to speed run

[devout void]

at the end even without unstuck its the most competitive player that have the high spot, you can play with all the unstuck and do a bad score its not so free

[gritty rune]

10 seconds would be considered gamechanging in like, Mario kart speedruns

[neat valley]

No one got this game and downloaded it to speed run

[true mauve]

I never play Destiny before

[gritty rune]

I casually played D2 a bit

[true mauve]

No. Thats the game we were given and chose to play though

[gritty rune]

I mostly just wanted a shooter on mobile

[neat valley]

yeah but they aren’t balancing things and that’s the problem, that’s how games lose competitive

[gritty rune]

Quite looking forwards to Division Resurgence

[devout void]

Yes, we didn't know that, but it's been part of the game since day one, and many have fallen into this passion unintentionally. Others aren't forced into it if it doesn't interest them; there need to be games for everyone.

[gritty rune]

Again, idk how many people play this game for CO lol

[neat valley]

Competitive games require maintenance and balancing which we aren’t getting

[gritty rune]

All I see on Reddit, on here and basically any DR community is complaints about CO

[true mauve]

Thats a gacha. I feel bad Destiny fans came here because D2 was dead. Gacha and mobile are not open world looter shooter

[true mauve]

What to play for if not best rewards?

[neat valley]

yeah that’s the biggest issue , they make the game out to be something else than what it actually is

[devout void]

Anyway, instead of complaining about Calam and unstucks, there's proof that you can push the mode without all that, but most people hide behind excuses when the excuse isn't about P2W. If you don't like it, that's your choice you can play other mode or leave, personally I'd feel bad playing for nothing and missing out on free rewards. To each their own

[gritty rune]

Idk, fun and interesting loot?

[neat valley]

I do the calamity and I’m on overseer but even I don’t like that crap

[true mauve]

Thats rewards brochacho 💀

[neat valley]

Its lame af and not competitive

[devout void]

Reddit is an echo chamber for the worst gamers in the world, this Discord server has picked up a few of them too. For every game, nobody wants to read their opinions. I could do that for every game and go on the Marvel Rivals subreddit and see people explaining that they've been Bronze for 10 months because of an algorithm.

[devout void]

same now just a chore, at least you try it

[neat valley]

The real comp people wanted was PvP tbh

[gritty rune]

Yeah but the reward is boring. No cosmetics, no gun chasing, nothing but the same drop every time

The whole point of looter shooter is that the reward is fun

[true mauve]

Its picking up popularity lately actually

[neat valley]

I’m going to stick around but I just hope they start listening to all the complaints

[silk verge]

EGePGoBJ

[true mauve]

Replay Crota then. It has good loot drops like ghost shell

[gritty rune]

But then we’re also loosing revenue and seemingly players every month.

So DR obviously isn’t doing it right lol

[empty kettle]

https://discord.com/channels/1267806213656023071/1276466055115440138

[devout void]

I don't know, many say that January and February are slow periods, so we'll see. It's not necessarily helpful to be depressed here all day, but you can send your suggestions, if a lot of players participate.

[gritty rune]

It’s like 5-10 min queues in EU lol

[neat valley]

Season 4 will tell us for sure

[gritty rune]

It’s been every month since launch

[neat valley]

It’s also their Chinese holiday

[empty kettle]

S4 could bring DR back

[neat valley]

So this month will always be slow every year

[true mauve]

Then people dont want loot

[devout void]

We never said the game was perfect, but I'm not interested in reading Reddit cry baby about Unstuck or pay-to-win when we can show them the opposite. These players are just lazy, or bad, without the curiosity to improve, and want everything handed to them on a silver platter.

[gritty rune]

This month is gonna be next to nothing cos it’s kabr banner.

Which is fine if it bring back players

[true mauve]

Reddit = Pro ragebaiters and trolls

[gritty rune]

Or people just don’t like the only thing interesting on there being 1% drop

[true mauve]

Discord = Rookie ragebaiters and trolls

[devout void]

They believe because they play a gacha and sometime spend money they deserve everything, then Netease had no choice to send 30000 emblems last Contest, at least now they are happy

[neat valley]

The sending of emblems was the funniest thing ever

[devout void]

Yep

[gritty rune]

I’m not saying the game is not perfect, I’m saying it’s in a really bad state lol

[true mauve]

Nothing else in game to play with good loot though

[gritty rune]

Like WWM is not perfect. The endgame is terrible, but it’s doing good enough otherwise that it’s fun and keeping players around

[devout void]

Im just spending all i have in bulwark then do unboxing with friends its the best time of the week

[true mauve]

This is new news, game in a bad state?

[gritty rune]

But DR has problems. Like fundamental problems

[true mauve]

Gacha 101

They gotya

[gritty rune]

It’s not even a gacha problem. It’s NetEase just doesn’t care problem

[devout void]

maybe you are not the target if you hate every end game you play, hope you can find your game 🙏

[true mauve]

No no, T6 HH led to direct quitting of majority semi-pro and new up n coming players.

[gritty rune]

Idk I’m quite enjoying WWM overall

[devout void]

spend more time on their discord you will feel better

[true mauve]

If I installed today, seen T6 HH on every leaderboard then told I cant get her? Insta uninstall

[gritty rune]

Cos it’s vast enough that the endgame isn’t the only thing to look forwards to

[devout void]

yea i can understand

[gritty rune]

Nah I skipped HH and T6’d Jaren.

No point being FOMO in a gacha

[true mauve]

The xix dude just wants loot then plays a cutscene cinematic story game instead that he watches. Think its a skill issue?

[gritty rune]

WWM is a cutscene cinematic game?

[true mauve]

Spent 4 hours in town talking to NPCs didnt even get opportunity to do 1 fight in 4 hours

[gritty rune]

Idk man I don’t think you’ve played WWM lol

[true mauve]

Uninstalled

[gritty rune]

Are you sure you didn’t play Genshin?

Cos idk there’s a pretty big list of boss fights lol

In fact, you get badges for doing no hit runs on them

[true mauve]

Nah I played wwm. Even praised the combat system. Their servers are terrible and you lag spike and ms problems whenever you PvP. In a skill timing game Lag isnt good

[empty kettle]

Cursed image

[devout void]

he is not a teenager or daddy with issue, i think, just a normal daddy

[naive ingot]

Did you uninstall WWM quicker then I did?

[true mauve]

Yeah thats fun once I did it before. No replayability though. One and done bored, i memorized the boss combos now I can do it again and again

[devout void]

but if you want a decent game now, Warframe look nice, i just dont care and focus my destiny life

[gritty rune]

So you played for 4 hours, didn’t get to fight so uninstalled

‘I praised the combat system’

Errrr, thought you didn’t fight?

[misty marsh]

What's the clock about?

[gritty rune]

Warframe kind of just got to the point that it’s less of a shooter but more like dynasty warriors in space. It’s fun in short bursts but gets repetitive fast

[true mauve]

No no you read only what you want. I complained that I got stuck in town for 4 hours doing quest

[devout void]

kabr will die and his banner never ping me i hope

[gritty rune]

?

[misty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/bb20-english-was-that-english-bbangela-angela-rummans-gif-12971780

[gritty rune]

And idk how did you spend 4 hours doing quests when you like, go into the town and get to spar people in like 20 mins into the main story lol

Heck, the game’s intro starts with a boss fight as a tutorial

[foggy eagle]

Yrooo

[gritty rune]

Tbh I like kabr. Laser beam is fun, his playstyle is very different.

Hated it at first but it grew on me

Idk why everyone dogs on him

[true mauve]

Whats the first big city when you finish starter stuff and ruby dies?

[gritty rune]

As long as you aren’t trying to use him in CO he’s great

[gritty rune]

That’s like at the end of the first act of the story

[true mauve]

I got into that Kai something city and spent 4 hours doing cross dressing quest

[true mauve]

Yeah I played bro

[gritty rune]

There’s what like 4 boss fights alone before that?

[true mauve]

4 easy boss fights

Game sucks sorry, I played it fr

[devout void]

You spend a good 4 hours talking about a game you no longer like, everyone has their hobbies.

[true mauve]

I dont uninstall and call something bad unless I actually gave it a real try

[bitter estuary]

oh

[devout void]

its ok netease force you to use it in cordon to make it easier 🙂

[gritty rune]

So you played a quest that’s all about getting information and investigating a theft and complains that there’s no combat ?

[gritty rune]

Did you play in story difficulty?

[devout void]

please lets stop share this website with fake number, i know at least 15 good whales that use Mumu and their own website or third party website

[true mauve]

I complain I spent 4 hours doing it, it doesnt need to be so deep. Yeah I got poisoned and framed, now time to find the criminal.

[gritty rune]

Cos if you played on legend and still found it too easy. Idk man, you god gamer

[bitter estuary]

its why i showed the WHOLE LIST so you can see individual ones

ios is down 57%

that is not good

[true mauve]

Expert or whatever 2 up was from the base difficulty. Im a Dark Souls player, WWM combat is easy and boss patterns too readable. Turn the auto deflect crap off thats bunk for noobs

[gritty rune]

Then you should have picked Legend

[true mauve]

Why? Its same rewards at the end

[half sky]

Game ain't bad but the fact that you need to heal people to get likes or do something otherwise get penalties like increase shop price is real pain. People don't accept healing from random only from they friends or whatever kinda annoying.
There some people who does but it's rare!
That just my opinion

[devout void]

i know but they dont have everything, still an idea of the state of the game but

[gritty rune]

Idk why you didn’t cos the game tells you specifically to pick it or else you can’t choose it later on

[true mauve]

Up the difficulty for same rewards? Nah loot aint there

[gritty rune]

You get to show off a badge for doing bosses in legend.

And I tbought you used to say you played games for the challenge, not the loot

[devout void]

You seem so good at Souls games, it should be easy to transfer those skills to Calam

[gritty rune]

I play on the second lowest difficulty lmao.

[true mauve]

Show off a badge in a game I dont play. Wow really sold me.

[gritty rune]

and it’s not remotely the same skillset anyways

[cobalt beacon]

Goat game

[vast arch]

I really wanted to like wwm since a lot of my friends play it but I just couldn't get into it. Something about the lack of voice lines in the side quests and generic AI/TTS voices made the game feel empty

[true mauve]

Fun fact. Bosses get new movesets when you up difficulty

[gritty rune]

What’s the point of going higher in CO then?

2 more pulls? Pfff.

[bitter estuary]

this will surely go eos bc horrid honeymoon phase

[gritty rune]

Yeah and they’re too hard for me. Recommended is the sweet spot for me

[bitter estuary]

if you take out the cn android its quite low

[true mauve]

You arnt even playing the real game 😭 you got the mickey mouse difficulty on

[bitter estuary]

anyways god i wish netease revives dr

[gritty rune]

Yeah, im not a god gamer like you

[empty kettle]

The PayPal drama that happened on that game

[true mauve]

Go auto deflect and dodge some more bro its all you do on discord

[gritty rune]

Nah auto deflect is off for me

[true mauve]

Tell me I didnt play a game. Bro you dont even play it

Enjoy your days, this is dumb

[gritty rune]

So anyone that didn’t play DMC on Dante Must Die didn’t play the game?

Or anyone that used a defensive build in Elden Ring or used summons didn’t play the game?

[bitter estuary]

game has a higher marketing budget and crap, i feel like hypergryph is NOT happy with the profits

[gritty rune]

Damn. I guess I’ve ever played any games ever

[true mauve]

You cheesed your way through a story if you cant beat game at hardest setting

[gritty rune]

Sorry man, I’m not built for that leet gamer grindset

I’m just a casual player

[bitter estuary]

💀

well ok ig

[gritty rune]

Look, I’m in specialist in CO with Jaren T6

I’m not even gonna make excuses for being bad at video games lol

[quaint flame]

im too lazy to grind just having fun yay

[devout void]

hopefully my joke get targeted by the auto mod

[gritty rune]

I just like shooting stuff

[quaint flame]

same

I like kabr so i put barrier down, go pew pew

simple gun yay

[gritty rune]

My man

[bitter estuary]

how

[devout void]

pretty much but its your choice, you can always do a NG+ to play the game after having fun and know the mechanics

[devout void]

sorry thatdontfc is reading now

[empty kettle]

Average titan crayon muncher experience

[quaint flame]

YAY would eat crayons again 10/10

[devout void]

thanks to fund the game

[gritty rune]

Nah man you don’t understand. If you don’t play on hardest, you didn’t play the game. It was all a dream

Finally someone that enjoys kabr

My goat was getting slandered 24/7 here

[quaint flame]

love simple kits ngl

honestly want his barrier to buff teammates bullets tho LOL

[pulsar coral]

Bro is that Rossi in your pic? 😴

[gritty rune]

Pew pew behind barrier goes brrr

[quaint flame]

YAYYY

it's scout rifle too

[devout void]

i mean there is no shame, I wanted an easy build to help a friend in Radhan but the game was too good that I do many NG+ with more fun build after that

[quaint flame]

my fav weapon, I need to get symmetry soon but im been busy and sick for last 3 weeks sob

[gritty rune]

I did the final boss in the first act on WWM on story mode cos I just couldn’t beat her

Which tbf was partly because I used lossless scaling which I later found out was like, so bad for WWM

Turned it off and realised it was so much easier to parry stuff

[pulsar coral]

I’d prefer small speed buffs when passing through barriers

[gritty rune]

Volt main?

[quaint flame]

ooo sounds cool, but for me I will be sitting behind the barrier anyways ahaha

[gritty rune]

It’s comfy behind the barrier

Damn

Not that it wasn’t unexpected cos kabr but damn

[pulsar coral]

It’s nice for the “speed content”

Chaos tooo

[quaint flame]

trueeee, but im lazy, rather have fun stuff ahaha

[drowsy cypress]

Even P5X grab 500k+ global lol🤣

in jan

[gritty rune]

Yeah but we have a non meta free character that goes in standard later

[drowsy cypress]

maaan p5x beat dr lol

[gritty rune]

If it doesn’t go up next month, we’re cooked tho

[twilit thistle]

Ya. Manipulating the matches isn’t a new concept, in shifting gates it was frequently 6 vs 3. If it were TDM instead of control, it wouldn’t be as bad.

[twilit thistle]

They cooked?

[drowsy cypress]

Wait for pregnant radegast in S3A2, we deserve it

[thorny frost]

I mean they literally didn’t add anything for big spenders to buy in Janurary. Anyone who didn’t get Kabr first day might of bought a little? So what that is battle pass + tree basically. I honestly expected more of a drop with nothing for sale added XD.

[drowsy cypress]

thay even chancelled Crota skins

[twilit thistle]

At this point I’d rather have an official statement that it’s not going to get EOS. Would be better off going into beta.

[thorny frost]

I have seen no news on that, I honestly don’t expect anything like that for a month after it was announced.

[sharp talon]

yea i dont think they made all the skins before the world's first picked it

[twilit thistle]

I just don’t think it was rewarding enough to get most people addicted, and it flopped because of it.

[sharp talon]

it will take time to develop

[thorny frost]

If they did they would of sold all of them, why waste development time on something you wouldn’t sell

[drowsy cypress]

All new asstes from dec is tower models lol

Tarisland vibes

[vast arch]

Please be careful making statements like this, there has been no news confirming those skins were cancelled

[drowsy cypress]

Game ez can grab large auditory if devs care

[elder wing]

True lol where the skins at??

[white fossil]

i think today will be the first day since i started playing that i dont play at all 🙏

[empty kettle]

They will be available to the public in the future

[true mauve]

Doooooooooooom

Poooooooooosssssttttt

[wispy maple]

I am still finding this Cordon event stupidly hard.

[cyan tide]

Getting full stars is relatively easy, just gotta go with a premade because randoms are incapable of using their brain

[devout void]

You are always the random of someone

[devout void]

Deep seek need more time it's not cancelled

[drowsy cypress]

Netease already shut down XSOLLA top up method these week

just lold

[neat valley]

I mean anyone installing for the first time won’t be on leaderboards no matter what , nothing to do with helhest

More of a time gated thing

[sharp talon]

i regret using my mythic selector on tan 2

[pulsar anvil]

-10000 social credit

[true mauve]

Whats it take to max your first character? Like a month?

2 at most

[indigo solar]

Yes but only near the start

I loaded into an existing match last night

[true mauve]

I load in all the time

[rotund junco]

How do you do select Synaptic Stimulation II in the cordon game mode?

[rough sedge]

lol

[bitter estuary]

the balls

hi guys

[twilit thistle]

It’s rare. Problem with control is that by the time you’d join it’s too late. Ppl don’t always leave immediately, some will just feed, or refuse to participate.

[rough sedge]

Howdy

[bitter estuary]

ikora 6*

[lean burrow]

is there any way to see how many people still play this game? i'm just curious

[twilit thistle]

A lot of the issues with sg carried over to iron bar it seems. None of it is fun, I can guarantee that. The smaller the player base gets, the more toxic these players are getting. I personally don’t take iron bar seriously anymore. I wish it would be removed or filled with bots, and I think netease made the right call with sg.

[neat valley]

im wondering that too

[supple nymph]

4 people play this game. I couldn’t even get a match for calamity ops last night

[neat valley]

haha, i believe it, the people who are being toxic prob think they are the best in the world but in reality its just all the good players left

[brave raven]

no one is even playing the new event, crazy

[supple nymph]

I was at 2/6 for crota for 15 min

[rough sedge]

They need to display ACTUAL popular times that people play, or active numbers playing

[pulsar coral]

Congrats!

[neat valley]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-swag-moves-gif-16402736

how netease is looking at us rn

[twilit thistle]

And if some of them ragequit bc of a single iron bar match, it’s going to take a toll on all of us at this point. There aren’t that many active players left, most are just logging in and doing the bare minimum.

[pulsar coral]

This meme has layers to it

[neat valley]

more layers than the game

[bitter estuary]

another day

another bridge crossing

[wispy maple]

This chat used to be very active couldn't keep up with messages.. now is half dead

[pulsar coral]

Eh depends on the time of the day

[pulsar coral]

https://tenor.com/view/burning-office-spongebob-on-fire-gif-13729593

I always thought this was Netease

[bitter estuary]

netease circa 2022 after blizzcon debocle

[pulsar coral]

https://tenor.com/view/fine-this-is-fine-dumpster-fire-everthing-is-fine-everything's-fine-gif-3293785927797514322

[bitter estuary]

we did crash out over a couple of stuff, but since i can't break rules, there was this huge crashout over cordon ops being calops but you have to do it again and again

[pulsar coral]

They could have at least changed the strike. So they aren’t on the same cycle…

[simple plank]

Welp neither jolder or Maru can clear Solar expanse

My last hope is Xuan Wei my goat

[wispy maple]

This is what I see when I think of destiny rising development team

[sharp talon]

now that cordon has been out for a while, i think its fine tbh

[neat valley]

He’s used to the abuse

[sharp talon]

even with the same strike, someone said it was like calamity ops practice which makes sense and the rewards are great

[neat valley]

Only took a couple beatings but now he’s fine with it

[wispy maple]

Cordon is extremely bad I can't even get all the basic rewards with regular decent players

[sharp talon]

you need to lfg probably, i dont think its that difficult

[neat valley]

Also the cc aren’t doing the game justice either , yeah they f up the update but now more players don’t even wanna try it because all the hate

[pulsar coral]

They should patch gm campaign and fix it. Don’t wait till Feb 12th

[pulsar coral]

Plus some apology rewards in the mail.

They shouldn’t have leaked that misleading photo

[balmy raft]

They aren’t doing allat lol

The knew what they were doing and clearly don’t gaf

[neat valley]

How many more beatings can we take

[pulsar coral]

I know know 🙁 a man can hope

[balmy raft]

Idk atp they’re trying to whittle out the rest of the community and quietly eos

[pulsar coral]

Seems like it lol

It’s working, that’s all this chat is about nowadays lol

[bitter estuary]

ananta cancelled and destiny rising is being remade (imagine)

[twilit thistle]

Actually, this more accurately depicts the DR dev team. (NOT official, and a joke. ||Pls have mercy thatdonfc||)

[still osprey]

Hey man...

Is season 3 winner rewards r distributed?

[neat valley]

Season 3 winner for what exactly

[pulsar coral]

I really hope they haven’t. Still waiting for Crota Jaren

[neat valley]

They probably will come out with the next banner

[pulsar coral]

I was hoping it would have dropped last patch now. Unfortunately you’re probably right

[neat valley]

It doesn’t even make sense tho to release only some outfits , why not all characters? Everyone doesn’t even have all the characters to even wear those outfits

[pulsar coral]

Their only limited character too

[neat valley]

That’s Money that won’t be made

Like throwing it out the window

[twilit thistle]

yea they should do what clash royale did and have them return on weekends or something.

[pulsar coral]

I’ll get Jaren if they do a good job, it’ll be hard to beat the base skin

[neat valley]

I really hope it’s not some goofy outfit

I want crotas skull as my helmet

lol his bones as my armor

Give us a skin for swords ? Make it look like crotas sword

Not really that hard to come up with good ideas

[signal spade]

give us crota as a playable character

[pulsar coral]

Someone used Ai, I thought this was dope

[twilit thistle]

The ones I used are from the other games, Like this is from the other games.

[oblique lark]

2160 on stage 11 of new event

lmao

[agile burrow]

bro i cant get star rewards in cordon because it means i have to stop running jaren, and i seem to be the only jaren ive ever seen who doesnt completely ignore every enemy at the orb section, making it take 3x longer from deaths and also ruining the score total

[balmy raft]

skill issue

[sharp talon]

for A score, u can basically skip everything and just kill the boss

[hearty salmon]

damn i cant find any coop games anywhere whats happening?

[twilit thistle]

Low concurrent player count.

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-bad-stonks-stonks-cat-bad-stocks-cat-bad-stonks-cat-gif-11522299758188203870

[neat valley]

It’s like Skyrim all over again , crota over and over again