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[true mauve]

If I get a T6 next banner yall gonna crap yourselves

[karmic chasm]

Why

Why would you T6 baldkora

[twilit thistle]

if you get a t6 next banner and run ikora in iron bar, yes. I would be doing that.

[sharp talon]

im waiting for mythic wolf and a summer wolf skin

[true mauve]

I feel like Jaren was my reward for the S3 and S4 update glaze

[karmic chasm]

Corndog shall we go play Crota bridge or are you busy

[karmic chasm]

Jock strap or I quit the game

[true mauve]

Bro kabr had a beard, so will she

[empty kettle]

Clankers, ugly looking spider folks, giant rhinos or mole rats and genocidal space bugs

[karmic chasm]

Thank you. They are bugs

[short locust]

My wolf is female

[true mauve]

Im procrastinating chores

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/long-hair-wink-handsome-gif-16358481138319614808

[short locust]

[true mauve]

Im tryin the stay at home dad life since I got seasonal lay off last week

[karmic chasm]

Aw man

I’m sorry bruh

[true mauve]

I have a clip of using Rossi pull to take someone off map in IB loool

[short locust]

Feeling guilt for something you have no control or fault over is a waste of energy

[sharp talon]

finished endless solo and i didnt even replace muqams with anesthesia. today is really really easy

[indigo solar]

Banning the first one wouldn't work. See: Prohibition

[karmic chasm]

No no no we need to legislate morality NOW

my great grandfather was a rum runner

[short locust]

Fun fact! That's why several Naval ships have ice cream parlors in em

[karmic chasm]

Alright hopping on Crota

Join up if you have me added ig lol

[twilit thistle]

😂Just logged in and I'm somehow in 5th. Not gonna use the title anyways.

[karmic chasm]

Stupid stupid stupid.

Can’t wait to compete with all the Ning mains that like to lock me out of it

[thorny frost]

Nah just full head of hair source: trust me bro. (No don’t but apparently this was in the files somewhere).

[sharp talon]

mythic ikora will be wolf in a ikora costume

[thorny frost]

McDonald’s is to strong, they will just go underground. People will need to start getting their black market McDoubles.

[true mauve]

Omg south park kfc episode 🤣 😭 💀

https://tenor.com/view/boston-market-south-park-cartman-gif-25629593

This looked cool until the word "Re-experience"

[karmic chasm]

Lucky day for me I guess

I’ll t6 him from standard choice

Second fav character I have at this point, and of course that’s due to him being a straight up better version of first favorite

Like wdym his signature shield can take almost as much as Rossi’s super

[sharp talon]

rossi super is a barrier?

[karmic chasm]

Uh

Yes lol

[sharp talon]

i thought it was like a damage field thing like baptiste from overwatch 🤣

[karmic chasm]

And unfortunately there is no way to buff it’s damage when it moves forward other than with super, arc, and ability substats

Nothing else affects it. The devs were verrrry careful not to allow it to be good

Meanwhile new Kabr (being a 5 star) gets a portable fireteam sized riot shield with a railgun attached

Like ok I guess

Lowkey need super boost now tho bc I get super every minute

So that damage could go crazy

[indigo solar]

Does super substat work now?

[karmic chasm]

It always did to my knowledge. Whenever I got it the damage increased. Back when I was trying to solo Issakis

Es9 was the one who led me to believe it worked bc he was using mythic artis with that in his video

Like once that was patched tho, I got rid of super in favor of signature, especially since I got Rossi t6

[pulsar anvil]

-100000 social credit

[dusty spire]

And the power ain’t near expanse so this is gonna be another easy run through lol

[karmic chasm]

Yeppp

[dusty spire]

Yessssss!!!!

Ain’t you got a crystal to finish off?

Fortuna

[wintry verge]

Suggestions for Bulwark Ops? I’m literally on easy mode and can’t get past wave 4.. I’m frustrated because I used to do Grandmasters/Challenge Mode in D2 and I can’t do this lol

[karmic chasm]

You think I save those 😭
I immediately turn them to le

He should end up in the 180 choice, that’s my hope

[bold thunder]

By easy mode do you mean the 9 normal mode challenges?

Or one of the modes you unlock after that?

[wintry verge]

The 9 normal modes. That’s my fault

[vale quest]

what the heck is with the framerate caps at 40fps?? anyone else with SD865 able to get 60fps?

[bold thunder]

Which level are you on? Level 4? Or do you mean you're dying to wave 4 on one of the other ones?

[wintry verge]

I’m on level 4, but it feels like it was luck getting past level 3

[bold thunder]

Alright, I think that's the first split lane level, which is a bit tricky

It also has dark fog, so you need a tower to counter that modifier (you should get can-can by default iirc)

As a general rule, it's more money efficient to upgrade a tower than to build another one

[wintry verge]

Yeah level 3 has that first lane split that gets me

[bold thunder]

You also typically want to make use of chokepoints to reuse towers

I would try building a can-can and another tower at the back near the exit

[dusty spire]

you’ve pretty much completed him he’s done anything T5 is pretty much complete if you have access to it via perm select or crystals.

[bold thunder]

Have you opened your chests from the last couple levels?

If not, tap where it says endless and you can open them there

[wintry verge]

Ohhhhh. I didn’t know that

[bold thunder]

Once you do, look for one of sentry, muqam, or long nail

[dusty spire]

What’s today’s tower set up lol

[bold thunder]

They're all high single target damage towers that will help a lot with the breakers

[short locust]

Tbf, individual skill and gear matters next to nothing in Bulwark ops. You just have to play the gimmicks, and grind out towers

[bold thunder]

For solo 15 or for high rounds?

[karmic chasm]

Yea tbh t6 isn’t a huge help, t5 is the last big one. But still, I’d love to have him t6 so I can main him alongside Rossi for a good long time given their similarities

[bold thunder]

Less true for the 9 intro levels, since you can't grind towers and you don't have the gimmicks yet

[dusty spire]

Avatarrrrrrrr

[karmic chasm]

Wait what lol

[dusty spire]

You want it animated

[short locust]

You just got done talking about the breaker modifier... A gimmick.

[karmic chasm]

His avatar is one of my least favorites lol- and so is Rossi’s 😭
Why are my mains so ugly with the AI

[bold thunder]

Breakers are just high health enemies, a fairly common thing in tds

You have to balance ad clear and single target defenses in basically every td

[indigo solar]

Tee hee

[wintry verge]

Thank you!! I appreciate you

[short locust]

Sounds a lot like my point is being proven lol but

[bold thunder]

Happy to help if you run into more trouble later

[bold thunder]

Your point appears to be that having a high health enemy in a tower defense game is a gimmick

If that's your point, yes it's being proven

[sharp talon]

jaren and helhests dynamic avatars are my favorite

[short locust]

That was easy

[rain condor]

@bold thunder I got this done yesterday

[twilit thistle]

@cyan tide This is my first match. Meta is to float to other ppls bases early on, seem to try harder if u do that. I wonder if this match will ever end.

[bold thunder]

Nice!

[dusty spire]

I get your point lol

[bold thunder]

What build did you use for it?

[rain condor]

Stone hoof, Acute field, Understatement and Anesthesia. I didn’t use a 5th tower

[bold thunder]

Nice

That seems to be what everyone's decided is the meta at this point

[dusty spire]

So what towers am I using today for solo?

[sharp talon]

i only used acute, stone hoof, anesthesia, muqam today and it was pretty easy

[bold thunder]

If you just want 15, anes/hoof and add in either muqam or acute depending on whether you want to afk

[karmic chasm]

Agreed. Those are the two I’d want most as T6 as well.

[bold thunder]

If you want high waves, probably what shadow just said

[rain condor]

I’ve been running Anesthesia and understatement for a long time but having the fire rate buff really puts it together, once I get T4 of both Anesthesia and Understatement the scorch build will be perfect

[bold thunder]

Anes t4 is so broken

As if the tower wasn't already overpowered lol

[rain condor]

Free 30% to your damage is NUTS

[indigo solar]

Finally got t3 today

[sharp talon]

im at 16944 proficency with jaren. i was like master 1 before wth

[bold thunder]

I've been messing around with a vengeance or 2 to try to stall out the orange bars a bit to push a bit further

But it's so hard to beat just spamming 8+ anes

[sharp talon]

do you get proficency from chaos stages?

[indigo solar]

No

Unless you spend pinnacle

[bold thunder]

You get 1 proficiency per pinnacle spent

[sharp talon]

im not sure how i got that high then

[signal spade]

you do get it from chaos without pinnacle

its like 2 per stage

[bold thunder]

You do?

[haughty swallow]

pretty sure base rewards gives prof

[balmy raft]

Yeah they updated it recently

[sharp talon]

that would explain a lot

[bold thunder]

Oh weird

[cyan tide]

I got wave 15 on the first try this week, doing it on reset day really is the play

[bold thunder]

I knew some activities gave it for basic, didn't expect chaos to be one of them though

Bulwark doesn't

[sharp talon]

fire change tbh

[bold thunder]

which is understandable

[sharp talon]

you dont need to wait for pinnacle to progress character stories

[twilit thistle]

My match hasnt even ended yet. Currently on wave 24 lmao

[thorny frost]

I know expanse first time clear after cycle starts for proficiency but I didn’t think Chaos did. Most farmable modes that give it was coop based I thought.

[cyan tide]

We just quit after wave 15 lol, can't be bothered to go for longer
One of my clanmates made it to wave 30 yesterday tho

[bold thunder]

Today's coop is 2 entrance hive right?

[sharp talon]

it was cabal i think

[cyan tide]

3 entrance cabal iirc

[bold thunder]

Oh yuck nvm

[cyan tide]

Cabal is like the easiest faction

[sharp talon]

not the vex?

surprising given how easy solo is rn but i dont really keep track of factions in bulwark lol

[bold thunder]

Depends on context

[cyan tide]

Vex can be annoying because of the flying harpies

[bold thunder]

I wanted to go for a coop pb, which you usually want to do on 2 entrance, and vex is the hardest faction on 2 entrance

On solo it's the easiest though imo

[bold thunder]

Once you're experienced with the mode, it's basically a non-factor for wave 15 runs tbh

which is why they need to incentivize waves higher than 15 and/or rebalance the towers

[indigo solar]

It used to be that you got one proficiency per gold medal

Since chaos didn't have medals, it didn't give proficiency

[bold thunder]

Ah that makes sense

[twilit thistle]

😭

I didnt think that was ever gonna end

[wise schooner]

Rossi could lowkey be crazy with a dragonfly bow

[karmic chasm]

I’m listening

[wise schooner]

shame theres 4 bows in the game tho

[signal spade]

bigger shame 1 of them is trinity ghoul

[wise schooner]

i mean he probably slaps with trinity but it kinda takes away from his Q

no point in succ if u can kill them from that distance alr with aoe lightning

[acoustic valley]

any1 have a wolf build?

[fierce ridge]

Are there any leaks who the next playable character will be?

[indigo solar]

Actually it makes it even better

His threads proc trinity lightning

[sharp talon]

is swordbreaker better than niaantiks in sg?

[indigo solar]

Good question

I haven't played gates in over a month

[sharp talon]

yeah ive been playing it for the better essence value

[indigo solar]

I used to but then I stopped getting matches

[sharp talon]

if you queue with three, it will fill with bots in a minute or so

[indigo solar]

With the limited time I have to play these days it doesn't make sense to wait 30m

[indigo solar]

Yeah

I just never make fireteams lmao

[wise schooner]

oh that's dope actually

[karmic chasm]

It is until you realize the bow is still assss on him

[wise schooner]

been really liking jade rabbit on Umeko

so much dmg

[indigo solar]

Funny in PvP

Trinity-boosted thread + melee = kill

[karmic chasm]

I could def see that

Especially since maha got that fat nerf

[wise schooner]

nobody is playing Bulwark Ops, sadge

[karmic chasm]

Hated that

[bitter estuary]

Yes and no, both have the same frame so it's easy to 1 shot stuff

Idk if i'd use it considering for the wizard boss you'd need all 3 elements so i'd rather use parole+niaatiks for full element coverage

[sharp talon]

i think the perks are better on swordbreaker for one shotting in sg i think?

[bitter estuary]

Ik it's a very low chance you'd need element coverage

[sharp talon]

lash is kinda inconsistent because it requires multiple shots beforehand i think

[twilit thistle]

Nothin gonna save u in sg. These bots are always lagging and aimbotting

[bitter estuary]

Just use ikora

With the hon2

[sharp talon]

ive been enjoying flying around and one shotting the bots with jaren in sg 🤣

[bitter estuary]

Jaren is like easy to play in sg its why I love him

Otherwise i'd use umeko but I have this thing called skill issue

[twilit thistle]

once u get to where u beat the ikoras, its kabr actually. Kabr will lag around, shoot u through walls, etc.

[sharp talon]

in the rare instances i encounter real players, blinding then one shotting them seems fun too ahaha

[naive ingot]

I know all about Skill Issues 😂

[bitter estuary]

Game gotten so boring im using barely used characters I have in pve or sg

[wise schooner]

being gatekept from tatara gaze cause i'm bad at tower defenses 😭

[twilit thistle]

izi>tarter sauce

[bold thunder]

I can fill for a run if you still need

gwynn confines are so hard on vex day 😭

I might go back to crutching on umeko

[true mauve]

You dont play DR: TD? Seems to be all discord plays 😭

Rossi confines are goos

Good* even

[bold thunder]

rossi confines are great but his cooldowns are so long 😭

[twilit thistle]

🥺 I specifically ran like 4 pvp matches bc i felt bad about pvp

[bold thunder]

I only get one confine per round and then his super every 2 rounds

[bitter estuary]

Obviously, and i prefer it over whatever endfield has

[bitter estuary]

Ikora and rossi waiting for that cd buff someday

[wise schooner]

i'm down but i'm not good at tower defenses 😭

[bitter estuary]

It's straightforward ngl

Not good but not bad either

[bold thunder]

eh idm, I'm just chilling watching a movie and playing bulwark

if we wipe we wipe

Also if you have most/all of the towers but you're struggling with builds, here are a couple guides that might help
solo - #videos-and-streams message
coop 2 entrance map - #videos-and-streams message

[hollow sedge]

I got the role and got left out of the ping for crota secret 😔

they pinged the wrong guy 😔

[wise schooner]

alr

[green vault]

am i the only one that thinks seasonal engrams are bugged? i opened every single one of them yet i did not even get 1 arbelast cosmetic dropp that is 6% chance, how is that even possible?

[stark forge]

its working as intended there wym

[thorny frost]

It’s 6% per exotic reward, so depending on how many of the decal you got it could be right. It doesn’t say how much is weighted towards the skins. In the end it is rng, I got 2 skins before I got 1 decal.

[green vault]

i got only 1 skin that is from BP and 1 decal from doing day one crota, nothing after that. And that is why i think that it's bugged somehow, aint no way i would not get even 1 decal or skin through the month since crota

[thorny frost]

Right it was the shader not decal that was exotic. I personally haven’t seen it as appearing bugged from my pulls. I hope your luck turns around in the next few pulls

[sharp talon]

yea it wasnt bugged for me. i got everything nd have 25 engrams left

[green vault]

if it wasn't tied to the seasonal completion seal i wouldn't be bothered, but becuase it is if i don't get it, it will make me leave the game. Spending time to complete the game and do endgame activity yet you can not complete the season becasue of rng. annyoing as hell

[twilit thistle]

Im so sick of it. Its never going to drop what i want, which isnt even for the season. I just wanted to upgrade my umekos decals lol and i have only seen it drop once.

[thorny frost]

That has been a pretty constant complaint since the beginning. They did finally give a pity system for the glow upgrade at least >.>.

[green vault]

at this point it feels like it's skeewed to give better rewards if you don't play as much and give less if you play a lot

[green vault]

in previous season at this point i at least had 1 drop of everything needed for the seal, yet here i am now with nothing besides what i got for doing challenges

[twilit thistle]

From someone that has two accounts, one with umeko at 22k prof and one with her almost at 10k, there is a mechanic for it, yes.

[thorny frost]

A knock out system for the engrams followed by a rng drop after going through the knock system would feel the fairest.

[twilit thistle]

I wonder how far up i could get umekos proficiency if i burned the near 2000k pinnacle i have stored away

[true mauve]

Previous season didnt need to push purchases like current.

[green vault]

how do i check the latest acquisitions tab?

[true mauve]

Soon as you open inventory

[sharp talon]

at least this season is longer so you have more time to complete it

[green vault]

i mean if it wasn't that bad with drop chances on the normal skins i would have bought the arby silver cosmetic, but they won't see a dime if they allow this sshit

[true mauve]

Part of me wants to save crota shader for future mythics. They added some new weapons to the exo glass and the exo black/white one

[signal spade]

assuming the shader is weighted the same as the exotic skins when you hit the 6% its just better to sit on all of your engrams til the 2nd act when theres more skins in the pool

but the systems terrible no matter how you slice it

[true mauve]

Wait for S4

[twilit thistle]

Thanks, dr.

[bold thunder]

@tropic swift cool, ty

[dusty spire]

I don’t know why this ain’t a thing….

[karmic chasm]

lol

[twilit thistle]

I did it just to prove that its predictable.

I usually only go for stuff when I see other people showing off what they got in chat

[karmic chasm]

Doesn’t it give one of the 4 rewards that it shows around it? It always has for me. Always

[drowsy cypress]

why devs dont create great cosmetics like estella one?

[karmic chasm]

Lazy

[twilit thistle]

I have proposed a bold new skin, but sadly chat was not a fan 🙁

@devout void and I would personally take over the skin design

[drowsy cypress]

maybe only 2-3 devs wirking on game🫃

[twilit thistle]

yea, Chatgpt, Gemini, and Claude 😂

[true mauve]

Wheres my crota skins

[twilit thistle]

Have yet to see them, hopefully its not as mid as some of the rest have been

[wise schooner]

anyone got good Artifact recommendations for Estela

[twilit thistle]

which ones

3/4 go to summons

Nothing else matters till u get those built.

Heir apparent is also a must

[wise schooner]

i do not have that

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar Have you tested del2 sweet ears? I noticed it ramps up, randomly. Do i need to record it for you. Like there is no rate of fire bonus on any mod or perk.

[drowsy cypress]

1 min jaren skin 🤣

Destini rAIsing

[dusk hemlock]

Its not green enough

[drowsy cypress]

crota series🤣

[sinful totem]

Who is she

[drowsy cypress]

jAIren

[sinful totem]

AIh

[short locust]

Yeah I wouldn't be able to to tell who that is on first glance or sillouette, so it's hard to get behind

[twilit thistle]

💀

[drowsy cypress]

Valentines Day gatcha😏

[dusk hemlock]

What am i looking at

[sinful totem]

Sheesh

[sinful totem]

Bruh

Jaren on her wedding day

[dusk hemlock]

Jarens a dude

[sinful totem]

I didn’t know guys wore wedding dresses my bad

I apologize to the wedding uniform community

[dusk hemlock]

They don't. They wear suits

[sinful totem]

🗿

[drowsy cypress]

Lets generate Sailor Kabr for SM collab?

[sinful totem]

I wanna see Ikora as an honorary member of the Beatles

Who’s running the ai

[indigo solar]

Please do

[naive ingot]

Destiny Universe does have Crimson Days, so some pink or red armour cosmetics could be possible

[twilit thistle]

🥺 If you arent a part of crimson days im refunding ngl

[naive ingot]

I'll be there. Wanna dance?

[short locust]

[twilit thistle]

Pretty sure thats what the emblem is for

[naive ingot]

That must be yeah for crimson days

Let's see what netease has for it, as bungie hasn't done anything for a few years... Since the bow The Vow

[thorny frost]

Just googled that…. Would be fun to have the 2v2 pvp event. Could be a test to see if that makes ques easier.

[naive ingot]

Was a lot of emotes too.

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-destiny2-love-heart-valentines-gif-11031171

[short locust]

I still remember the rose pedal sparrow 😭

My hunter rocked it for years

[naive ingot]

Bungie moved away from it and did Guardian Games

[twilit thistle]

Think it might be bugged, bc I cant reproduce it. It just randomly does it then i guess. Might be easier to reproduce with autofire on mobile.

prolly just what happens when ping spikes tbh.

[cyan tide]

That's happened to me with old prefect

[thorny frost]

Could be fun to see both end up in rising. 2v2 for crimson, guardian days… do a PvP event like the round robin but limited choice lightbearers, most wins from eligible light bearers get a new skin (had to google champion games too, don’t think it would translate as well over to rising in base form).

[naive ingot]

The Solstice of Heroes, Revelry too

[twilit thistle]

I would wreck in 2v2's. I have that tracker gilded in d2, i think it was like 700 kills or something.

My playstyle is just to go towards the red and shoot anything that moves, so when its 2v2's, theres nothing that can stop me from doing it.

[thorny frost]

It looks like D2 had a lot of what sounds like “yearly” lore events that happened just a few times in actual game. (Appreciate the lore drops btw, haven’t played since beginning of D1 so didn’t know any of these).

[naive ingot]

Crimson Days was in D1 as was The Dawning

[thorny frost]

Yea I don’t doubt this XD. I hope they do try a 2v2 event be neat to see if they can keep participation up in it.

[twilit thistle]

It was very popular in d2.

[thorny frost]

By beginning I mean I don’t know if I even made it past 1 year due to life stuff happening at the time. So my memory of a lot of the game content is hazy now. I now haunt the lore channel here picking up tidbits whenever there is a discussion happening.

[twilit thistle]

same. i just beat one of the expansions for d2 recently. Luckily I played up to shadowkeep before abandoning it for several years. Tbh I think d1 was the better game tho. Thats where DR is going wrong, they are copying the homework of the wrong game.

[naive ingot]

I wish bungie bring it back

[mossy holly]

Please tell me the grandmaster rewards are placeholders..

[naive ingot]

I've never stopped playing. I load up D1 every so often as it's better on ways and D2 is better in other ways..

[twilit thistle]

Its not a placeholder, netease did as ususal and wasted time/resources on something nobody suggested or asked for, in a desperate attempt to give us "more content".

[mossy holly]

Nah screw that, I ain't playing it just for a tiny reward.

Wake me up till something good happens to this game.

[karmic chasm]

I mean it will be piss easy

It’s the same light requirement as expanse 30

[naive ingot]

I have 8 ghost shells in my collection on Destiny 2 for Crimson Days

[mossy holly]

No kidding, I have 3 or more characters that have 68k and almost 71k

[karmic chasm]

But like might as well run it then

[mossy holly]

If they want to make challenging content, make it challenging and rewarding then just
"Here's a gamemode with the same reward but worse and 67k power requirement. Gfys"

[karmic chasm]

They should have just increased rewards on the base one imo

[mossy holly]

Mann no kidding

[bitter estuary]

the only thing i'm playing here is still bridge crossing til the day i rot (also chaos)

[karmic chasm]

Thank goodness I’m done with Crota as of today

Got the shell and I’m OUTTIE

[naive ingot]

Still need the shell 😂

[bitter estuary]

i need mods 🥺

[short locust]

I was done with Crota after contest

That was the only reason I ran it

[karmic chasm]

Didn’t you get the shell from contest though?

[bitter estuary]

top 200 only

[karmic chasm]

Yea wasn’t he

[twilit thistle]

Wow that was so hard.

[short locust]

Def not, but I just wanted the contest experience

[karmic chasm]

Oh

[twilit thistle]

I wonder if i could just use 2 hoofs and ane

[karmic chasm]

I just wanted the ghost

[short locust]

I honestly forget you can customize the ghost 💀

[karmic chasm]

Huh

lol

[short locust]

All my stuff I'm p sure is base look lol

[tawny moon]

What stuff will we get from doing Grandmaster Campaign missions?

[short locust]

The stickers look awful, and the emotes idek how to pull up the menu

[thorny frost]

While I do agree they need more challenging content, the rewards do actually make some sense. It is 2 times typical pinnacle rewards, the limit to 12 is the main issue I see with the rewards (unless it is 12 per stage which I doubt).

[twilit thistle]

😂 @bold thunder I mean do i rlly need the 2 hoof to get to 15

[verbal sluice]

I would love some sort of d2 GM eqivelant. Something «hard» that is 3 man

[bold thunder]

I've been thinking about this

When I was designing afk setups for my t4 exotic grind

There's a setup with 1 lvl3 hoof, 1 acute, 1 otter, and 6 anes that I think might be able to do 15

Which is about 15k cheaper than the full setup

[karmic chasm]

Ignore that all the greens are different 💀

Minis morgul look

[bold thunder]

But I wasn't confident in how reliable it was, and you still have to spend the full 30k on hoofs which sucks

[bold thunder]

Ooo thats interesting, you place your hoofs out front?

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar said to do that

[bold thunder]

I guess it kills things faster, that's smart

Slight faster wave 15 farms probably

[misty marsh]

[bold thunder]

I always placed them back a bit because they'd interfere with the muqams less and I could never be bothered to move them

[bold thunder]

So jealous, her t6 is so good

[twilit thistle]

yea thats how i start, maqams everywhere and hoof in the back

[indigo solar]

I said to place them here

that way their aura covers all towers

and they pop shields/warping before other towers hit them

but if what you do works, it works

[misty marsh]

Is it basically just suffering until you accumulate enough cards to max the towers lol

[indigo solar]

no it's never really bad

especially in solo, they give you 8k to start

[bold thunder]

Endless will be a little rough until you get a copy of anesthesia

[twilit thistle]

but what do u put in their place bc those 2 would hit them first, which is why i think you initally told me to do it this way

[bold thunder]

But once you have that (and a Hoof and t2 muqam are nice too) you basically have the best build already

My eu account was doing perfectly fine running anesthesia + double clap dance + a blue tech tower earlier because I didn't have hoof

[indigo solar]

I think the tower on the front right hits one first but the hooves there stop the main clusters from triggering

[misty marsh]

Lol I never get to round 6 as-is

But the rewards are mid at best imo

[bold thunder]

If you have anesthesia, stone hoof, and t2 muqam, I have a couple guides on how to run the build
solo - #videos-and-streams message
coop 2 entrance map - #videos-and-streams message

Alternatively I'm always happy to answer questions/help with bulwark

[bold thunder]

Honestly fair, the main reason to play it is because you enjoy the mode for itself I think

Not sure the 10 cores or whatever is worth it if you don't

[solar marten]

Damn, I should have not spent and bought Furies III before, I could've maxed Gallows by now and bought more copies for Maru's light grenade launcher or Arbalest.

[misty marsh]

Td games have always been torture for my strain of ADHD

[livid sable]

furies seems kinda mid when new pulse rifle has 540 base fire rate and access to fire rush yeah

[solar marten]

I wanted to use that new pulse rifle but sadly it's not Solar element and I prefer having at least 1 same element weapon to the character.

Especially on my Estela

[bitter estuary]

while i do agree on this

there's heir apparent, i'd rather use oversoul decree+heir apparent

for estela

[solar marten]

Main problem is sometimes there are really times I can't get the ammo for the secondary as they don't spawn sometimes and I want faster ttk for breaking same element shields.

[dire forum]

Have they changed the aim assist for controller players? Feel like I’ve noticed a difference recently

[twilit thistle]

@bold thunder im on wave 14, ane only.

[bold thunder]

How are you dealing with the red bars?

Do they just die to the anes before they leak?

[karmic chasm]

I just don’t understand how to enjoy bulwark.

It’s “Now, we wait” the gamemode

[twilit thistle]

everything goes invis, so ane targets them 😂 no modifiers, the only thing doing damage is ane. To 15 and no further.

i had the initial modifer for an extra card

[bold thunder]

Oh damn thats sick

[twilit thistle]

at wave 10 is when i swapped. I had maqam and acute to generate the currency to upgrade them all to max, then i just went afk.

[bold thunder]

I've never thought of that for vex day

I like it though

Cheaper than my setup too

[twilit thistle]

I think it may be the actual devs intended way to farm this combo. It technically became wave 16, but the bosses from 15 both got thru and ended it immediately after.

[bold thunder]

I wonder whether you need all 14 anes or if you can run 2 acutes

Would cut down on the price even more

Might be able to go afk as early as wave 8 or 9

[bold thunder]

I used a similar setup in my farms, but it involved an intentional setup where I would dismantle everything and spam hoofs to kill everything but the bosses

Yours sounds a lot easier

[rain condor]

anyone else bored of the legendary story missions?

[bold thunder]

Yes

[dusk hemlock]

I like one tapping everything and going faster each time. Free loot. Mucho fun

[twilit thistle]

Its perfect, every time its just like this

[sinful totem]

What tier?

[rough sedge]

Could use a few new ones for sure

[twilit thistle]

Only t4’s are rare towers. Rest is all t3

[sinful totem]

So these are what t3 anesthesia look like in action I take it

[twilit thistle]

@bold thunder while the full tutorial i edited renders, is t3 required for this?

[bold thunder]

Given you're trying to die to the bosses and the hydras aren't even making it close to the exit, I think t1/2 would be fine in wave 15

I think the question is whether you'd be fine in wave 14 since you have to kill the bosses then

Given you had full upgrades and the bosses still made it at 15, I'd assume at 14 with the ~20% dps loss you'd probably leak bosses before this

You might be able to make something work by putting a couple acutes in, but I wouldn't know without testing it

[lyric skiff]

I'll be sticking around but u wont even know im here,consider me, incog-tree-to

[bold thunder]

It's hard to conveniently get that exact balance at wave 15 lol, pretty perfect with your setup

[sinful totem]

So the new goal is to aim for t3 anesthesia

[bold thunder]

I mean in general also yeah

t3 and t4 anesthesia are the two strongest upgrades in the game atm

[twilit thistle]

Full tutorial, start to finish. Had to speed it up a ton to get the file size down.

[bold thunder]

there are other builds that will work fine without t3 anes for farming, they just won't work out as perfectly and conveniently as the god build killothy just found

[indigo solar]

RIP T2 stone hoof

[bold thunder]

I wonder if there's something like this for fallen days with invis

[bold thunder]

ok fair those 3 are the 3 strongest

maybe muqam t2 but anyone who doesn't have that has barely played the game

[indigo solar]

What would be much more invaluable to me IMO is a build that can clear wave 6 with only 8k polymer

[bold thunder]

I was theorycrafting one, but it's always going to be day specific

because hoof is too expensive

[indigo solar]

Indeed

[twilit thistle]

is the condition for that final chest when wave 15 begins or when wave 16 begins

[indigo solar]

Wave 16 beginning

[bold thunder]

are you sure? I thought it was wave 15 ending

I'm pretty sure I've died during the pause between waves when I was doing my farming

[twilit thistle]

tbh theres probably one like that for each map/modifier.

[twilit thistle]

@vast arch For this one you dont have to do anything, and all u have to do is stand there.

[tight talon]

👀

[indigo solar]

yeah I mean start of the prep phase/wave 15 ending

just certainly not 15 starting

[twilit thistle]

in s1 I noticed there are hidden things in the game, that aren’t rlly Easter eggs. Was doing hellhests expanse on Umeko, and I happened to go invis in the room with tons of dregs and 2 vandals. When I turned around, I saw all of the enemies were walking to the middle of the room looking for me. Gaze+borealis killed all of them nearly instantly. Essentially, the devs leave very hard to find ways to do things for all scenarios.

[harsh berry]

Can we stop bunching up together in challenge mode holy crap

[bold thunder]

5 more to go

[limber pine]

Me Myakka Yu Explodah

[quiet tide]

are excotic weapons always better?

[twilit thistle]

no

[quiet tide]

what's jolders bis main weapon?

[vapid ibex]

POV: 34 piercing magazine exotics in and still no rate of fire + fraternity

[twilit thistle]

either huck or partridge. Not sure on the rest.

[calm vortex]

This game will not give me a rapid fire mod with Reload speed, it wants me to keep suffering the agonizingly slow reload of Wrongful Ingress

[simple plank]

both of her exotics are great. She uses Huck + Kakalick for void loadout, and Mythic Arc Smg + Partridge otherwise

[twilit thistle]

Yea I have 19 exotic magazine mods. Spoiler: ||youll get it, and the other roll will suck||

[simple plank]

just dont use riskrunner

[quiet tide]

i have Huckleberry rn but i saw on the forum that wolfpack is her recommended one

[twilit thistle]

Speculated to be void rapid next month.

[simple plank]

that is very outdated

[indigo solar]

It is, Hyperaemia is busted

[simple plank]

the time it takes for WP to ramp up for high level ad clear isn't great

[indigo solar]

??? Wolfpack deals more even just by the fact that you're running void boost on her

[twilit thistle]

Rlly? did I acutally get the right one this time without taniks-supervision?

[indigo solar]

Not to mention that the speed boost helps since she's fairly slow without sword dashing

[simple plank]

I think if you ask most Jolder's they're using Arc mythic

with Part, anyway

[indigo solar]

Because we've got arc shields rn

[simple plank]

its just decent baseline dmg without having to ramp up and lose the buff

[simple plank]

even before

[calm vortex]

And even if you arent using Void Boost for whatever reason Wolfpack and Kulfi have almost identical general performance

[indigo solar]

Also it really isn't hard to maintain the buff, you just need one kill every like 8 seconds

And you don't even need a kill, you can just get 30% damage on something and a teammate kills it

[calm vortex]

And its more like a snowball than a ramp, the more you kill the easier the next kills are and you auto reload every kill so just unload

[simple plank]

Stick with Huck and Kakalik for a general void loadout. If you're trying to use her in endgame content right now you want Part and Arc mythic smg

[simple plank]

til you switch to your sword for something heavy and it's gone. Unless that was updated?

[calm vortex]

At that point you probably dont care about dealing with adds and are just moving on to the next zone so its whatever, or you deal with the big guy first and plow through the adds

and if you dont wanna think about it the other options like Glutton and Black Body actually arent much worse

than a perfect Kulfi

[simple plank]

I haven't done any calcs, my main concern after using both is just how tanky ads can be in calam or Expanse

when you're playing for time, there's no time to wait for your no stack gun to kill one thing

the feel of just having a good baseline right off the bat with Kulfi is really nice

you can focus more on getting jolder's stacks and maintaining shield

and not stressing over switching to my heavy, also very good

[quiet tide]

i think i dont have any of those

only huck

[simple plank]

Kakalik is her void sword you use with Huckleberry

[versed scroll]

When Grandmaster Legendary Campaign?

[twilit thistle]

*Why Grandmaster Legendary Campaign?

[quiet tide]

oh i have kakalik

then i should run that then

[versed scroll]

But seriously, when will it come out?

[quiet tide]

should i get another copy of huckle or get kabr the resolutes exotic for the daily login

[twilit thistle]

When ikora comes out

[simple plank]

which one is Kabr's exotic

[versed scroll]

Okie, thanks!

[versed scroll]

Rapid Fire Ikora?

Gonna upgrade my Oversoul weapon. Thanks!

[bold thunder]

is she double rapid?

[quiet tide]

nvm it was not kabr

[bold thunder]

or rapid + something?

or do we not know

[simple plank]

Im pretty sure we have no idea who next char is

we know a Fusion + Rocket kit exists for someone

[bold thunder]

ew

[quiet tide]

its for tan2 and jaren

[bold thunder]

I hope thats not ikora

[simple plank]

I say go for Huck

[bold thunder]

imo borealis isn't worth running now that we have a good arc sniper

so yeah go either huck or crimson

[rotund flame]

I'm worried if the drop rate is the same. Watch photons still be at like a 3% drop rate lol

[quiet tide]

tnx

[true basin]

Happy Monday

[calm vortex]

I kinda just see it from the gacha perspective as far as a GM Legendary campaign goes cause it would probably mean more weekly locked materials

[twilit thistle]

Oh they are. Ppl already got mad over it.

[rotund flame]

Dang 😭

[tight talon]

Low-key expected 12 cores and a 15% drop rate for GM level

Ngl, GM insta kills majority of the times

[twilit thistle]

I hope the new mode brings ppl together like bulwark. Netease should boost mentor tokens in there. There are some very wholesome moments with new lights in the 5 wave one.

[tight talon]

I rather axe my own foot off than deal with new lights

[tight talon]

I hope she's Rapid/Impact

[bold thunder]

agreed

[thorny frost]

Just played an endless match where one person brought his friend and was teaching him. It was fun to help newer players to the mode. And I picked striker (lightbearer damage up) the second time after they invited me again to help get past wave 15 XD.

[bold thunder]

imo sidearms/lmg would be what I'd want

[tight talon]

So they can BP weapon Invective so that we can use Threat Level and Furies III

[thorny frost]

First time I actually found that beginning perk worth it

[twilit thistle]

I always find the person who is struggling, take my superweapon, and drop it by their portal thing.

[bold thunder]

they never take it :(

I always have to come help them use it

[thorny frost]

This was the first time I played with a newer player to the mode. I didn’t go over soon enough to help with waves and a decent amount made it through earlier. But yea I am going to keep that in mind for next time (or just go use it)

Second time it was a breeze as he figured things out, and we helped him earlier with mob clear. He said he was rank like 15? So low level towers still

Lots of fun and really nice people

[bold thunder]

playing with newer players is maybe my favourite thing about coop bulwark

[twilit thistle]

Oh not the newlights. 15 wave one i meant. Some ppl dont 100% know what they are doing, and usually 2/3 are skilled. Its partially bc I equip fancy titles before i go in, but I notice the other one realizes we have to help too. All 3 of us will be in that zone. You can just tell it makes that person feel a little better.

[bold thunder]

fair

[thorny frost]

I might end up grabbing striker from now on doing coop. My damage on the boss if someone is having trouble actually matters up till like wave 15.

[bold thunder]

I always grab pressure or master, but yeah maybe striker is better

especially if people are struggling early

[scenic wigeon]

Just used arbelest today... holy moly does it hit hard

[thorny frost]

When playing in matchmaking I think it will be wise. I know my tower defense will last but the ability to aid others seems like a given now. So that, the one that increase super weapons, or the ones that slow enemies/power towers you are near will be my go to.

[twilit thistle]

Ive done that on estella too. Usually if the other teammate sees it they run over too. Matters most for stevelion and @indigo solar bc i know how much they grind that mode. tbh I go in there and just stand by teammates just to make sure they know im there for them (in hopes it boosts morale, which it does.) and i dont even shoot.

[thorny frost]

Yea I mainly play Estella in that game mode. Fun to have the summons just zip around attacking things (if they aren’t relying on Muqam at that time).

[bold thunder]

usually my build in coop is designed to be afk asap so I can go basically sit in a teammates base by like wave 7 or 8

so I have tended to prefer things like tycoon and prudence for the eco boost

but I do kind of like the estella striker idea

I usually run umeko or gwynn for the stun

[humble jacinth]

Oops wrong discord 😅

[thorny frost]

The beginning of each wave typically isn’t to bad. So the last game I did I just ran to my side upgrade towers then returned before things got dicey.

[twilit thistle]

🙏 please make #1 obtainable again for me NetEase, its less effective if I am #5. Make it proficiency. And also boost proficiency gains based on hours spent in game throughout the week in activities (for up to 120 pinnacle a day)

i was doing basic strikes at one point to try and give new lights interactions that would inspire them to stick with the game.

[thorny frost]

Someone said that chaos now gives proficiency even without opening chests. I am going to need to double check but I did get the adapt achievement with Attal before opening chests today… so it might be true

[twilit thistle]

ye theyd have to fix all the silly ways u can get it and reset it for GM back down to base. I can accept that.

Just hope they do it now, and not months from now

[scenic wigeon]

Don't public event give proficiency?

[thorny frost]

I am fine with the silly ways to get them in all reality. If someone want to spend pinnacle to raise their standing go for it, but they basically need to choose who they are wanting to fight for leaderboard on.

I am screwed for leaderboard even if I maxed someone with proficiency. I keep spreading it around

[twilit thistle]

I think what would be best is farming it by actually getting gold medals. Thats the biggest issue, I would end up with an absurd amount of ascension cells, and i already have 285 of them.

[thorny frost]

Medal farming would show who plays it in coop content the most definitely. The leaderboard either way won’t be a guarantee on who knows/use the unit the best. But showing who cares to use them is a better method at least (and easier to implement then the idea I posted a month or so ago).

[twilit thistle]

I think the easiest way is gauntlet ops, at least that i know of. I got 40 out of it earlier. The issue would be thats all we would be able to do. The brutality of getting umeko up still haunts me. All i was able to do for like 2 or more months was chaos, and also shifting gates when that was a thing. I still dont have gallows upgraded. I dont even have octant. I couldn't get the rewards from legendary campaigns either. Imagine having to get all the keys out of the expanse for that chance of 5 essence 🫠 without upgrading characters properly.

[tropic swift]

How many light cones are in one sector of shifting? Any idea? I played match after match looking and activating but never seem to get them all. Its driving me nuts as its the last thing I need for the seal.. 😭

I cant find a single thing about it on Google. Someone plz help 😥

The Ultimate Boss of Bulwark..
GIGANTIKORA!!

[bold thunder]

Oh wow wth?

[rotund flame]

What are dynamic emotes?

[surreal berry]

Hmm…

[thorny frost]

These are light cores aren’t they? You need to unlock all of these to finish that achievement if my memory serves.

[slow sable]

guys theres in the strike fulminator there is a secret easter egg after you complete the tramission part where you have to stay in circle past the exploding shanks making a left falling down head straigh to the window and there you shall see the easter egg 😄

[vital turtle]

Yo

[celest fjord]

Chat is anyone free to help me finish Bridge crossing in 7 minutes

[rough sedge]

I can help

Still need somebody?

[wise schooner]

i need like 2k power on estela and gwynn and i can get Acclaim 15

struggling to go from 53k to 55k cause i feel like i've leveled everything

[rough sedge]

That’s a wall for sure. There are good YouTube videos and Reddit posts with suggestions for getting over it

[slow sable]

Time to farm singularity chaos n to re roll artifacts

[rough sedge]

^ coffee’s got it

[devout void]

Estella clutch me many time but for high wave if you know how to play yea probably Umeko

[quiet tide]

until what chapter is the story?

[young sinew]

Do we know which characters next yet?

[keen cave]

Does anyone have map (without any notes) for bulwark with 3 lanes?

[sly hornet]

Joldan vs captain america 1v1 how long does it last? Xd

They would 100% throw their shields at eachother at the same time and they clash in midair

[cyan tide]

7-4

[cyan tide]

Not yet, we should get a preview in like 10 days

[rough sedge]

This could be twisted many ways

[drowsy cypress]

pregnant radegast

[bitter estuary]

Ts the type of aura farming vids you'd find in douyin 🥀

[dusty spire]

😭

[naive ingot]

The endless task.

[devout void]

Auto reroll is nice but need faster

[rough sedge]

I just discovered you can use iron commander ops for Morgan’s prey

[true mauve]

Netease don't even know themselves, will prob be a rerun banner. We are approaching half anni

Id guess at maybe HH rerun but maybe they do it in order

[scenic wigeon]

Saves so much time getting the orange cubes

[astral prairie]

Hey

[dusty spire]

Here are a few speculations

Warlock void Ikora CC mythical
Warlock void
Warlock hunter

Bp weapon
Rapid void/arc
or
impact void/arc

Then after solar titan 🙂

[true mauve]

Basically, we dont know?

Thats alot of guesses

Maybe they run Impact season again and bring back Gwynn

[rotund flame]

Makes sense, we barley have any information right now lol

[true mauve]

Any moves they make at this point are Blatant cashgrabs like releasing Arby for HH

Rumour next BP wpn is some butterfly bow

Think HH uses bows

I dont doom just to doom, i supported game and devs for a LONG time and even spent my own money on it. They have too many warning signs now though, I have been through 10 EoS and they all started like this

Please save your money, and just enjoy it f2p for now until we get word on live or dead

Maybe I see ya on here maybe I dont. Good luck to you all, happy gaming.

🙏

[native mango]

Except Arby isn't for HH, its for Kabr

[bitter estuary]

Balls

I just want to extend monthly so whenever hh reruns i can t6 her

[verbal sluice]

Why do you think we get a free Kabr in event 1 and later on he goes to the normal pool?

SUUUUUURELY not to "try" to fix the HH problem they created....

[empty kettle]

Should just create another problem that will overshadow helhest

[native mango]

The only problem they made was people crying they couldn't tier her up enough, if people are using arby on HH

Thats a them problem, thats the reason they're not doing as much damage as contravene, alot of people also haven't built their HH properly, they'll throw a bunch of random artifacts on for the high attribute score instead of focussing subskill levels, that being said people also don't know how to use HH in a boss fight or DPS phase, they just use her because she has a team speed boost

[verbal sluice]

No. Problem with helhest is that she is beyond busted and a limited character. There is no other viable option given in normal draws.

IE: If you dont have hh or someone in ur team doesnt -> you do not get to fight for any leaderboards ever.

Just go into any "important" leaderboards for example calamity or morgans. ALL teams there has 1x hh minimum..

[native mango]

Ning, its almost as if ... wait he got nerfed because people said the same thing and now look, everybody crying about that too

[verbal sluice]

Ning is not a limited character.

[empty kettle]

Won't take long for a new limited character to take helhest place

[native mango]

You said there were no viable free pull characters ... Ning was viable but everyone had to cry because his dps output was literally breaking leaderboards

Next limited char is specualted void defence, they won't push her off

[verbal sluice]

Ning isnt CLOSE to being viable. how many nings do you see in leaderboards on a team with no hh?

Also netease is scared to nerf LE characters as ppl have spent money to get them.

[verbal sluice]

Meh, pure speculations. Also hard to do. HH is just a perfect support.

[empty kettle]

That Won't last long

[native mango]

HH is a DPS main if you know how to use her, she should be topping the teams damage as well as healing

[true mauve]

Kabr sucks bro sorry to burst your bubble. HH meta is here, 2x HH on a team 1 with arby 1 with RC. If youve never even hit expert in Cal Ops just say so, its ok.

[true mauve]

They never nerfed his DPS they just released Jaren and HH. Also Ning dps wasnt the killer, its his 3 dashes and super letting him OOB like a champ.

[short locust]

Holy Olympic long jump to conclusions

[true mauve]

Pls know about end game before pinging me fr

[simple plank]

I hit master 1 with Kabr sooo

[true mauve]

Not overseer, I hit Master1 with Rossi soooo

Rossigood now?

[simple plank]

You do know master is still within top 150 team times

[native mango]

2 HH on the same team is asking for trouble, that's how people can tell you're a bad player, just suggesting it is a crime, they nerfed her ammo pickup so only 1 per team can collect, I'm currently sat in Master 1 Promo zone but okay bud

[true mauve]

I think 1 HH and 1 Jaren carried finnala and jolder and wolf to overseer top10

[verbal sluice]

Its very easy to spot who has a brain; and who spent 200usd to get t6 hh 🙂

Saying hh isnt a problem is just pure delustion

[short locust]

Only $200?

[true mauve]

Go watch some #1 cal ops videos pls and look at leaderboards

[native mango]

And i'd waste my time doing that when i can sit and ragebait people why exactly?

[true mauve]

2 hh, even pros do it

[native mango]

Its a mobile game bud, don't be cringe and call yourself a pro 🤣

[short locust]

Ah yes the infamous I'm being clowned so jk I was just kidding angle works every time

[true mauve]

Youre not ragebaiting sadly, you sound like every noob who ever came to discord. Id say i was ragebaiting alzo when caught being dumb 🤷

[true mauve]

Typhoontrav 😜 catch up buttercup

[native mango]

🥱

[true mauve]

It does

[short locust]

I've never seen it fail once

Truly peak tech

[true mauve]

Its because we cant see facial reactions. Internet is peak. I feel like a 400 pound body builder when i am typing

Im really a 400 pound whale

[simple plank]

Correct, your point is that HH is broken? We kinda knew

[short locust]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-budy-ronnie-coleman-gym-lightweight-light-gif-20762394

[indigo solar]

I like running Jaren or Ning mainly to make collecting polymer faster but yeah Rossi or Umeko is also pretty good for helping teammates by stalling enemies

[true mauve]

No Vlad dude handing people a mop gif 😭 that dude so goated

[verbal sluice]

The point is; its so broken that if netease dont do anyting the game will die.

[simple plank]

I think broski was implying a HH carried me into master 1 last cycle, which is a fat lol

[true mauve]

Then why even mention Kabr in master? He doesnt replace HH in a 2HH comp

[true mauve]

No, im implying it had no validity in the convo you jumped in

[simple plank]

My point is Kabr absolutely does not suck. Finnala sucks. Kabr is able to get to the upper ranks on his own merit

[true mauve]

Think Steve > HH is insane

[simple plank]

And I’m not saying he’s better, you just said he sucks

[true mauve]

Thats cool and valid. But topic is 2HH team and Kabr doesnt make the cut

[true mauve]

I say he suckz at cal ops, he is great expanze40 you missdd that rant

[simple plank]

Honestly bruh saying chars who don’t reach top 100 suck is miserable

More like top 50 tbh

[true mauve]

What else do we have to measure with? Top50 is it. Honestly top10 is it.

[simple plank]

But you do you !!! More HH talk !!!

[true mauve]

Cal Ops overseer only team content over 70k recco power

Everything else we are overpowrred for

Maybe Condor Operator will fix Kabrs team standing. He brings nothing to help his buddies but some cheesy barrierz

New debuffz/modifiers in cal ops season could also maybe do something for once and actually push characters out of meta

[verbal sluice]

Kabr is good; especially in solo activities like expanse. But on teams hh is just ye....... absolutely dogged.

[true mauve]

Sadly, Attal has also LFR and T6 is a team dmg bonus boost plus all of her heals and move speed boost

If no HH allowed Attal next best choice for buffs and dps

[simple plank]

Now that is hilarious

[true mauve]

Does Attal T6 beat out Tan2 well?

[simple plank]

Unless this is a totally new development I feel like I should SC that

[true mauve]

Hers doesnt require you to stand in an area

[native mango]

Definitely SC that 🤣

[true mauve]

Screenshot it

Attal has gained alot of popularity lately. @devout void whats your Attal experience at top tiers?

Arby put her on the map

[thin valve]

We getting anything new soon?

[simple plank]

I dunno bro not two Helhest, she must suck right? Could probably get to master I but so can Rossi so idk

[true mauve]

New character, crota skins, and operation condor all we get until S4. Oh and new BP.

[thin valve]

Im t6 attal with maxed arby 74k power and she is good but not that good

[true mauve]

Saying if HH was banned. Attal>Kabr for team buffs

[thin valve]

New character when? In 2 weeks?

[native mango]

and why would HH be banned?

[native mango]

as soon as Kabrs ends

[verbal sluice]

Noone said banned buddy. But something needs to be done. (Edit. i cant read)

[true mauve]

Kabr ends at end of S3

[thin valve]

So in 2 weeks

[true mauve]

Here @native mango catch up

[native mango]

Pushing a char out of meta isn't what you just said

Don't go bouncing back to older messages

[true mauve]

Im not writing a book for you to understand context, sorry. Catch up or move on 👍

[thin valve]

Someone like HH should be in game but STOP making calam piercing arc over and over again

[native mango]

Ahhh, standard yank ... anyway ... toodle pip me ole mucker

[true mauve]

"Banned" "unusable" same diff cant use em need a replacement

[thin valve]

idc about other game modes cus nobody playing them

But aint nobody playing calam anymore aswell

[true mauve]

Cal Ops is only end game team mode we have and isnt even 70k until Master/Overseer

[thin valve]

We need new 74k+ power modes

[karmic chasm]

So @true mauve when do we play Fortnite together

[true mauve]

GM campaign coming "re-experience"

[thin valve]

No info bout next char?

[true mauve]

When does act1 end?

[true mauve]

How did you know I had it installed? 🤣 💀

[thin valve]

they put piercing arc and hh as recommended even in announcement ss 💔

[karmic chasm]

Why didn’t you know I had it installed 😈

[true mauve]

Cause I just install it for first time last night. Im MisterFolgerz

[thin valve]

Melee character when

[karmic chasm]

wait that’s actually crazy… I re installed last night and got some sweet wins

[short locust]

Bro is in your walls brother

[true mauve]

(Yes I look around my kitchen at random food for names)

[karmic chasm]

Yours too boy

[true mauve]

Better than my wallet 🤣 he be fighting my wife for it

[thin valve]

So new mode is old mode but “harder”?

[true mauve]

Yes

[thin valve]

so exciting

cant wait🔥🔥

[true mauve]

And operation condor unlimited waves sounds like morgan hunt on a diff map

[echo horizon]

Question, whats yall opinions on these artifacts for jaren?

[karmic chasm]

Mfw it’s no harder than expanse 30

[karmic chasm]

I’ll send a friend request

[thin valve]

Wow so exciting

[true mauve]

Not exactly it, substats matter most though.

[thin valve]

I see they did a great job!!!

[echo horizon]

Then what artifacts do you recommend or suggest

[native mango]

His pertubation set

[true mauve]

Yeah really drawing players in, more team modes where we need a T6 HH to carry us. Woo love it!

[echo horizon]

Damn ok, ive seen very few ppl actually use his full set, many ppl say to use a combination of his set with others

[astral prairie]

Eoooo

[true mauve]

1 sec, #2 Jaren posted his build in here the other day (sorry Torrent, @cobalt beacon is the goat)

[thin valve]

works perfect for me

[echo horizon]

The picture i posted was from the #1 jaren in the server

[thin valve]

more power ≠ best artis

#1 maru was running a full airborne artifact build

u had to be in air everytime lol

[true mauve]

We already told you bro 😭

[simple plank]

Forbidden flying mortar tech

[thin valve]

Maru, the airbender.

[astral prairie]

Quien habla español?

[echo horizon]

Yeah thats fair, I mean im happy that my estela is #50 but has the best artifacts

[true mauve]

Substats matter like I said, sometimes you dont have subs on proper arti so you make do

[echo horizon]

Yeah i did that with my jaren, I have my last two, pretty much solid except one attribute, but still working on the first two

[true mauve]

Im still trying to get Sig boost

[short locust]

I use this

[true mauve]

I quit expanse40 until I get it

[echo horizon]

My last one has the best stats

But my second to last has super instead of sig

Anyone have a build for umeko, im using jade rabbit with mine

[true mauve]

They say jade is worst scout on her all i know

Polaris or Izi

[verbal sluice]

The problem with hh; is a lot of destiny players are competetive for stuff like leaderboards and speedruns and so on.

If they want to start playing now; there is literally a very very small chance they will ever reach it because hh is soooo overpowered. Would you guys play a new game where you would most likely have to wait months for her to come back and where the team have not said a word about the matter?

Sure a more OP character might release; but then that problem is just pushed onto the NEXT batch of players. No new players = game will die, as we that play the game today will get bored eventually.

[short locust]

Gacha doesn't mesh well with Destiny tbh

[thin valve]

are there even new lights

[true mauve]

Yeah fr not too mention all the bored players who have T6 HH quitting game and making it harder to find

[echo horizon]

I mean its done well for DR, but what would you suggest they have done instead of a gacha style

[hollow salmon]

I wonder if any new players I see are bots

[echo horizon]

Certainly feels like some of them are with how stupid they play

[short locust]

I have a half baked rant about this somewhere, lemme find it

[true mauve]

Tons, but they dont stay long. Game isnt it and majority of people in game are dooming it when they ask questions

[gusty bridge]

Yes, our pack has a few

Very casually playing

[hollow salmon]

Also the names and clan tags they have

[short locust]

@echo horizon

[thin valve]

JumpingRabbit2015

[true mauve]

Sounds like umeko main

Born in 2015

[thin valve]

2015 sells it away

ppl born after 06-07 aint real

[true mauve]

Game is now Mickey Mouse Clubhouse?

[native mango]

People born after 2000 aren't real

[thin valve]

bro remembers big bang

[short locust]

Don't be dissing that show big man

[echo horizon]

Dawg everything i run gms with the electric ring, everyone i match make with stays together, like bruh how can you be that stupid, no one ever spreads put

[echo horizon]

Hey screw you

[tropic swift]

Unfortunately badly worded.
It's clearly the same as "Legendary Campaign", just harder, which isn't the actual Campaign with all story beats etc.

[echo horizon]

I can assure you I am real

[true mauve]

I watch it bro. Hot dog hot dog hot diggity dog

[thin valve]

best show ever

[true mauve]

My son born 2020 I watched all the kids shows

[tropic swift]

Who the oldest?
Born in 85 right here 😆

[verbal sluice]

Problem with new lights is that many arent interested and quit (which is normal with mobile games).

But you also have old destiny players playing which get turbu f'ed by hh not beuing available (4 of my friends independantly noticed it and quit)

[short locust]

97

[true mauve]

Found a Pokemon channel streams pokemon 24/7 on my tv. Its been amaze

[native mango]

I think Cloud is the Grandad here for sure, 96 here

[thin valve]

my dad is born 85🙏

[echo horizon]

I mean i careless for helhest, my 4 mains do amazing, so I nvr need her

02 for me

[short locust]

I need her... Just on my fireteam

[tropic swift]

Me 👴

[true mauve]

90 here, really wanted born in 70 though to experience the 80's

[thin valve]

damn uncs

[tropic swift]

Thanks for making me feel ancient 😂

[short locust]

Don't feel bad, my parents are 71/72

[thin valve]

Nah me and my dad are on a same vibe. Still play games and still have same interests

[true mauve]

Nah dont, guy at work going through midlife crisis. Bro was born in 86 and is wearing Eyeliner

[tropic swift]

If hes not an "elder goth" then get that man some help lol

[thin valve]

Only reason i wanted to be born in 70’s was just to drive cool chevy trucks

[true mauve]

Omg I cant wait for the goth themed hoverrounds to hit the streets 💀

[echo horizon]

Anyone wanna join me, idc what we do

[tropic swift]

Glad I was born when I was. Got to experience all the consoles. Started on Atari 2600, then NES & Sega Master System and beyond.. All the way to current consoles 🫡

[true mauve]

I want to experience the rock n roll 80s and all the fun stuff that came with it 🤣

[native mango]

server?

[echo horizon]

NA

[short locust]

Bro predates gaming

[true mauve]

He made gaming

[thin valve]

I started with ps4🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[short locust]

Holy hell I started with the PS1 😭

[tropic swift]

Goddamn..

[naive ingot]

82

[true mauve]

I still remember punching my systems until they worked again, used to be able to stronghand your video games

[native mango]

Even as a 90s kid I can say i've played and own all the older consoles, some of my favourites have been locked in a glass box for nearly 15 years

[tropic swift]

We found someone older!!

[thin valve]

hi gran

[echo horizon]

I remember starting with the GameCube, and this one game system dont remember what it was called, it was orange ish and had a giant joystick on it

[true mauve]

Thats why you like Gwynn, she grey headed 😭

[tropic swift]

Not the 👴 anymore lol

[naive ingot]

Nothing new under the sun, as always

[native mango]

No no, you and grandma can look after eachother now

[indigo solar]

They weren't born in '82, they are 82

[thin valve]

do u remember dinosaurs?

[naive ingot]

I breed them. Soon the park will be open. Spared no expense

[true mauve]

Have you kept up on them? Dinos have been rewritten in last few years. T Rex had feathers bro

[thin valve]

i see i have missed a few patchnotes

[native mango]

Its almost as if people never learnt what a yutyranus was

[naive ingot]

Pretty much all theropods has some form of feathers

[true mauve]

Old World monster myths are starting to look like Dinosaurz existed during Medieval times, they are direct linking sea monsters and old world deep sea creatures they are finding

[naive ingot]

Just no hybrids 😂😂

[native mango]

Dinosaur is a modern word, people used to call them Dragons

[thin valve]

flying cars when

[naive ingot]

Master System was a beast

[karmic chasm]

@true mauve Rossi in arms, check ur DMs brotha

[true mauve]

Soon, check the US patent registry. They are being tested and modeled for rich people as we speak

[short locust]

Government wouldn't allow it. Gotta have clearance from air traffic to fly anything like 5 feet off the ground (no, seriously)

[indigo solar]

Sea monsters were whale members and giant squid

[karmic chasm]

I believe ts 100%

[true mauve]

They are finding more specifics as they dive. There are atlantic goblin sharks older than Shakespeare still alive in the ocean

[thin valve]

People cant even drive normal cars especially when it rains, we aint getting anything flying😭🙏

[tropic swift]

My uncle from Australia bought it for me and my bro when he came to visit us for the first time.. 🥹

[indigo solar]

Yep the deep ocean is crazy, a lot of animals down there don't naturally die

[karmic chasm]

Flying bmw but it’s still riding your tail instead of going over

[indigo solar]

They only die when they get so big that they can't eat anymore

[true mauve]

We are on brink of discovering immortality genes. Prepare for hybrid people

[karmic chasm]

Bro my goallls for 2026

[thin valve]

https://tenor.com/view/standing-up-engine-error-seeing-stars-error-gif-22759130

bmw mentioned

[native mango]

Nah that'd be an audi drove by a bimbo

[naive ingot]

Must be a Ford

[karmic chasm]

Any nice car with a person who doesn’t deserve a license, yea

[thin valve]

definitely not a toyota

[karmic chasm]

Me? I drive a 2020 civic and I love it to death

[indigo solar]

The car so reliable it's used by both sides in every middle eastern war?

[true mauve]

There cells dont divide and die like ours. They are finding producing our own body heat is forcing cell division and death. Some species have cells that replicate and duplicate not wither and dissappear

[karmic chasm]

Corolla be like “hey uh, timing belt is actually cooked- you can keep driving for another year or so tho, it’s cool”
Saw a skit like that lol

[true mauve]

Hence tortoise slow butts living over 100 years

[naive ingot]

Are they? Usually rust away or break down

[thin valve]

those cars never die lol

[indigo solar]

Lack of telomerase that shortens the telomere with every division, this has been known for a while. The problem is humans that don't produce enough telomerase are significantly more likely to contract cancer

[native mango]

You can't just say Civic, what one?

[thin valve]

Beside camry every toyota is W

[short locust]

Toyota gang

[karmic chasm]

Not a fun type r or si

2020 Civic ex-l hatchback. It’s nice tho with leather all that, plus they put turbos in now

[tropic swift]

Perspective.. Much like my HIGHELHEST lol

[true mauve]

Deeper than that, they found a Jellyfish who can literally revert its life cycle back to infancy and relive its life again. It never dies unless eaten by a predator.

[naive ingot]

VTEC just kicked in

[indigo solar]

Jellyfish are aliens

[karmic chasm]

Vroom

[karmic chasm]

I’m lowkey convinced cats are too

[native mango]

Dunnooooo, you cant forget the Hilux

[true mauve]

Humans and Octopus are aliens. Our closest direct link dna is Octopus

[karmic chasm]

I used to drive a Sienna. Real talk

[tropic swift]

If anyone missed..
Introducing GIGANTIKORA!!

[naive ingot]

Back to burning through my pinnacle in chaos 😂

[tropic swift]

The Final Boss of Bulwark.. 😏

[karmic chasm]

I’m pwetty sure that would be chimps

[thin valve]

I cant stand that car. In army i was one of few people who knew how to drive a manual car and everytime they needed something, i was the one behind wheel

[indigo solar]

That isn't even coop tho

[native mango]

Yeah they're more of a comfort car, I like those civics because they're much spacier than say an ek9

[tropic swift]

Got whupped in 45+ coop yesterday 🥲

[indigo solar]

Aaaa my pic isn't uploading

[true mauve]

They base it on dna chain links for each process, by looks yes we could be chimp but dna its octopus it hits on a diff level than physical appearance

[karmic chasm]

Yea for sure! I love it tbh. Toyota is still king for me, but the Honda felt a little “nicer” ifykwim

[indigo solar]

There we go

[indigo solar]

@tropic swift

[karmic chasm]

I mean I just googled closest dna 😭 but idk, I’m no biologister man

[native mango]

But the ek9 would play with it all day, less reliable but easy to fix

[tropic swift]

Havent tried in there yet

[thin valve]

i wanna mod one

[indigo solar]

The invisible walls in each zone aren't identical 😭

There's at least one zone Jaren can't reach the middle in

[native mango]

Fun cars but if they aren't built by someone who knows what they're doing to them they can turn out scary and horrible to drive

[twilit thistle]

Was testing last night, and with 1 hoof it seemed to happen again. Will try later with only ane

[tropic swift]

In EA, you had to manually start the game. Sucks that it auto starts when you load in now.

[true mauve]

Maybe it was oldest relative 🤣 been awhile since I read the article. Here is what AI says.

I cant remember but I think chimps came from a diff ancestor than us

[tropic swift]

You got to 16 with 1 hoof alone?

[karmic chasm]

WORM LIKE??! WTF

time to school those proto hive

[devout void]

Made by professionals, do not reproduce this at home or the Muqam only; it will crash your computer.

[twilit thistle]

No, was on EMEA using all ane and 1 hoof in the back

[true mauve]

I made blueprints and waz testing a perpetual motion device. I just needed to figure out how to harness some of the wasted energy in spinning to somehow re-magnetize the magnets so they wouldnt degrade in 20+ years and quit spinning

Almost was writing up my patent

[tropic swift]

Was that in coop?

[indigo solar]

What happened?

[indigo solar]

The humble first law of thermodynamics:

[twilit thistle]

No just single player. Yesterday for invisible vex stevelion and I discovered all ane would farm all the way up to the moment wave 16 would start, and no further. The next test on EMEA was the same setup but with shielded. It got to wave 17, so I wonder if would do the same with only ane

[indigo solar]

That said, I remember seeing something a few years ago about some researchers harnessing Brownian motion, which would be huge

Closest to free energy we could ever possibly get

[karmic chasm]

Hardest part is hiding the motor I guess

[devout void]

#videos-and-streams message @dusty spire

[dusty spire]

Nice 🍪

[devout void]

really nice tbh

[dusty spire]

Congrats ?

[devout void]

i think yes, gg

[dusty spire]

Gg then, ok anyone know if rabbit is good at full upgrade?

[modern pasture]

Why no information on new gamemode master gordon

[dusty spire]

Ikr lol

[modern pasture]

More excited for it then grandmaster thingy

[devout void]

tomorrow maybe

[tropic swift]

Nice 🫡 My usual that i saw on Reddit. 2 hoof, 2 Under (with its perk), 2 acute (with its perk) & the rest Ana (with its perk), Rate of Fire+, Range+ & Solar Damage+. Got to 31. Your Anas with 1 hoof is way simpler for the 15 lvls 🫡

[modern pasture]

Apparently a game mode like tower defense

[dusty spire]

Likewise 💯

[dusty spire]

The sound of it amazing but netease gotta execute lol

[modern pasture]

Hopefully so

[karmic chasm]

Sounds WAY better than tower defense

[twilit thistle]

It was how efficient it was that blew my mind. It was within seconds of wave 16 (condition for last chest) starting.

[short locust]

Sounds like it won't be as mind numbingly boring so it's a step up already

[naive ingot]

I can't get past wave 6 on endless 😂😂

[karmic chasm]

Dude I cannot play bulwark, it’s so exhausting to just sit there. For a game with a lack of content already, it’s insulting

[tropic swift]

I wonder if Op Cordon has been delayed?

[obtuse folio]

im looking forward to that mode

[tropic swift]

Got 2 round on endless, didnt notice the modifiers were different from 1-45 😅

[naive ingot]

That's when I did some before having to go earn money to pay bills...

[tropic swift]

I play it every week. Halfway to The Lord of the Towers 🫡

[true mauve]

Laws are meant to be broken, they arnt absolutes. We wouldnt have solved alot of the universe if not afraid to push boundaries and think from a diff angle. Laws may be laws in a controlled vacuum here on earth but rules change off planet. For instance space has no friction, why cant we make energy devices and send em to orbit to free spin no interruptions?

[bold thunder]

Isn't Brownian motion caused by the heat energy of the host fluid? So extracting evergy from it would presumably just be indirectly extracting that heat energy?

[karmic chasm]

It’s a great title, but there’s literally no way I’m wading through all that

I wanted a tower defense like the Helldivers mission

[tropic swift]

Unbreakable Bad is what I'm using right now.

[short locust]

I wanted a defense mission like Warframe 💀 or EVEN Division 1 West Side Pier

[sharp talon]

really want that lord of the towers title 🤣

[true mauve]

2 arms with powerful magnets on gears, they would rotate in and out to propel the magnet wheel in proper direction had to be spaced properly to not "stick" the wheel to it. The wheel itself was going to operate the arms as it spun. It would power a small LED, and eventually muck up timinf after a few minutes.

[indigo solar]

A) space still has friction
B) you can't generate more energy than you put in
C) any way to send the energy back to earth includes losses
D) the laws of thermodynamics are pretty absolute
E) in fact, it's even more difficult, you can't even break even over long periods because energy is lost to the expansion of the universe

[indigo solar]

Yep

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/say-my-name-meme-say-my-name-walter-white-heisenberg-breaking-bad-gif-24564124

[bold thunder]

Friction is an auxiliary loss, not the reason energy positive systems don't exist

[tropic swift]

Same! Big Tolkien fan! Love Breaking Bad too so the 1st title is also awesome 👌

[indigo solar]

Cooling down the environment to produce usable energy

[short locust]

https://tenor.com/view/alexjones-alex-jones-tinfoil-hat-gif-19186951

[indigo solar]

Whereas every other method of energy production or use generates heat

[karmic chasm]

Isn’t it just physically impossible?

[bold thunder]

Even in a perfectly frictionless/gravityless/etc system, the laws of thermodynamics still apply

[bold thunder]

Even if you could somehow get the timings perfectly on some device with spinning magnets, magnetism isn't just free energy

[indigo solar]

So you're deriving power from the magnetic fields, which lose strength over time. The amount of energy required to replenish the magnetic fields is more than the energy your system would produce

[karmic chasm]

That’s exactly what I’m thinking

[short locust]

Even changing electricity from AC TO DC has roughly 4% energy loss, imagine trying to perfectly transfer energy between 2 different forms

[bold thunder]

It sounds like from yoir descriptipn, in spinning up the wheel that's deriving the energy, you'd be expending the rotational energy in the arms

[tropic swift]

The government are keeping the secret of free energy..

[karmic chasm]

Now don’t get me wrong Corndog, I’m not making fun of it. It’s a fascinating pursuit

[bold thunder]

Even if it's fairly slow, the energy "created" in the center would be being lost by the side

[short locust]

Yeah, no one is saying you shouldn't try anything, but the burden of proof hinges on it actually working outside of napkin math, which is unlikely to say the least

[bold thunder]

Also this, magnetism is a property caused by the arrangement of electrons in a material, and interacting with other magnets moves them and wears the magnet down, reducing its magnetism

[karmic chasm]

I napkin mathed my way through college fr

[bold thunder]

So you'd be losing a significant amount of energy there in the form of entropy

[karmic chasm]

Fun fact about me

I equate entropy with the fundamental concept of evil. Ask for my paper on it

[short locust]

Dw I won't buddy

[true mauve]

A: the host environment can be contained and made functional
B: you cant generate more than you put in, but constant energy flow from 1 action can still be enough to power devices (i believe the longest standing "perpetual motion device" is a clock that still powers itself they just waiting to see when it fails finally been a long time)
C: energy losses in everything you do, there are ways of redirecting lost energy (what I am dealing with)
D: Physicist rewrite history all the time, the laws may be absolute but we may not have all the laws yet, could be some left to discover
E: pertains back to point A, environment has to be particular same thing as plasmas need a certain stable environment to be plasma

[true mauve]

You finally read what I said 🤣 💀

Yes thats the issue

[karmic chasm]

Hey we can’t all read