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empty turtle
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To childish for a Destiny game

pulsar coral
true mauve
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Fortnite?

empty turtle
true mauve
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Skibidi Rising?

pulsar coral
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They can cook with kill effects on those two guns.

Look at the detail put into this, for their first exotic weapon drop. I think more should have been done.

pulsar coral
twilit thistle
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Imagine if estellas summons had an iq that was double digits. And didnt get squihsed, blown up, etc, and teleported away from that. Or if the super itself wasnt super janky and the most inefficient super ever. She could put out more damage without giving her increased damage.

empty turtle
pulsar coral
empty turtle
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People already hate the gacha aspect of the game

indigo solar
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You can slide cancel in Rising btw

short locust
twilit thistle
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name a gacha that doesn't have people that hate the gacha aspect of it.

empty turtle
smoky oxide
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Overwatch 1

pulsar coral
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They already made the banner and gun, I’m just contesting for a updated kill effect lol. As a guy who loves Jaren and I can tell many others do.

Where can I submit a suggestion?

serene ingot
hidden carbon
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Only during ultimate

empty turtle
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Do you think we would get a refund if this game ever EOS??

pulsar coral
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I can show a vid later, pretty cool. Not worth $100 lol

serene ingot
empty turtle
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This game is dying ngl

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I hope they save it

twilit thistle
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Ads for pinnacle

hushed crown
sharp talon
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damn thats cool

white fossil
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shame its only available for silver

pulsar coral
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I have a idea. When I was gaining power and finally hit 64k power and did my first GM. It was tough! My teammates and I kept dying and we were running low on revives. We had to actually use some strategy to clear “The Pit”. There was no speed run insensitive. It was just to clear. I like that.

I didn’t get into the raids because it’s hard for me to play specific times and get together with a fireteam, voice chat etc.. but for a casual experience. I think a harder grandmaster with good rewards would be dope. Have the power cap at 74k anyone to get there has to be decent at the game lol.

I’m sure this new mode will be similar but we’ll have to wait and see for next week.

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I didn’t play D1 or D2 as a disclaimer lol

naive ingot
serene ingot
# pulsar coral

man im 10 pulls off from the second skin but i don't wanna spend 25$ on that .-.

pulsar coral
hushed crown
pulsar coral
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Raptor skin 🤣🤣 I meant Jaren

naive ingot
serene ingot
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new jaren skin? whens that coming

pulsar coral
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I’m hoping Crota skins will drop tomorrow but probably next week

hushed crown
serene ingot
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oh right i forgot about those who was it jaren maru and who else?

sharp talon
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that would be a little quick huh? or do you think they already made the skins already before world's first picked it

naive ingot
serene ingot
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estela.. why not ninggg .-,

pulsar coral
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Unlike Maru lol

serene ingot
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too basic they gonna release way cooler stuff later so just gonna save until then

pulsar coral
hushed crown
dusk hemlock
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Meep

floral abyss
naive ingot
hushed crown
pulsar coral
limber pine
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@river rain 🥱

floral abyss
hushed crown
serene ingot
hushed crown
floral abyss
pulsar coral
hushed crown
true mauve
pulsar coral
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😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

true mauve
serene ingot
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🤫

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Time is ticking

true mauve
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Whats 22:00 Utc-5 in Est? Thought it was 5pm

serene ingot
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5 hours from now

pulsar coral
serene ingot
true mauve
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I have stayed off DR all day just to be safe

serene ingot
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I hope its good cus dont have anything cool to play atm

sharp talon
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wym infinite chaos isnt fun?

serene ingot
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I have to do bulwark ops i even forgot last week but there is some invisible wall stopping me

pulsar coral
serene ingot
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Genshin copy im pretty sure

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Well not too sure the trailer images didnt reveal all that much

hidden carbon
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Hmm is Netease going to do a chinese new year event for DR? 🤔

twilit thistle
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@indigo solar I didn't even put ane on any of those front spots, and i still got to wave 18 then died.

limber pine
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As long as u got 1 range tower or range perk u will be fine they will rach mid anyways

twilit thistle
limber pine
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At 20 it gets so hard so fast 🤣

twilit thistle
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Also. This is the greatest screenshot, i am so glad i got past 67 and 68 (i specifically dont show umeko anymore, to protest. If NetEase wants to leave power leaderboards like that, I will direct all users to #1 umekos build.)

bold thunder
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Acute is op

twilit thistle
bold thunder
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Acute Field

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The tower that buffs fire rate

twilit thistle
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😭 its only 3 stars for me

soft bobcat
twilit thistle
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Netease please redo the classifications of these. Take them off of the exotic mythic legendary and rare system, and place them in a new one. Its so confusing seeing blue towers outperform an exotic.

bold thunder
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The blue towers are only good as utility (economy/buffs/anti-mod)

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I do think having anesthesia be unequivocally the best tower despite being mythic is a bit odd though

soft bobcat
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rn I'm running these 5

bold thunder
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And like half of the exotics are unusable

twilit thistle
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i wouldnt be bothered if it was just a reflection of the cost. The change would simply be visual, as i think many users are getting confused.

bold thunder
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For deep runs I was running Anesthesia/Stone Hoof/Acute Field/Otter/Muqam

sharp talon
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understatement sometimes lags my game :\

bold thunder
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I've been trying out Vengeance though to help with the orange/yellow bars

twilit thistle
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any luck with nocturne?

bold thunder
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Idk I tried nocturne

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Might be better once I t4 it, but so far it seemed underwhelming

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I'm worried it's not properly applying the 60% vuln from upgraded lacerate

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Bosses don't seem to die 60% faster

twilit thistle
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Dang. More damage was why I tried, but it seems to be getting stuck targeting the wrong enemies. I specifically wont touch increased range bc of that, it seems to just make everything worse.

soft bobcat
bold thunder
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On one hand, the targeting is so much worse with long ranges

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But on the other hand the longer the range, the more time your anesthesias are shooting the boss

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I've been trying out juggling an otter to force towers to retarget when I need them to

soft bobcat
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In solo I don't take range anymore the backline Anesthesia target boss too soon

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then the super fast Vandals sneak by

twilit thistle
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You either choose to lose to the ads, or the boss.

soft bobcat
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true

twilit thistle
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Reoccuring theme in my runs lol

bold thunder
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Around wave 30 you can't really afford to have your back anesthesias not targeting the boss sadly

limber pine
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Pretty sure bulwark is meant to be run with 1 blue, 2 purple, and 2 gold towers (or 3 epics if higher tier than your golds) combine them to power up different buffs to enhance your best towers. 👌

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I use can can and made it to round 88 and its only an epic but I mention it because neither of you mentioned it.

soft bobcat
bold thunder
limber pine
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So a gold tower isn't better than a blue tower because of rarity. Rarity is based on the likelihood to draw it and improve its tier.

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Making it "rarer" not better

bold thunder
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They seem to have clarified towers more by type than by usability

limber pine
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You can make any of the towers good if you build around them ngl

indigo solar
soft bobcat
limber pine
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Also the in game buffs you choose matters a lot.

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But that's luck of the draw basically

bold thunder
bold thunder
soft bobcat
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I spent 8k+ rerolling and couldn't get my Ana upgrade yesterday 😂

bold thunder
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More of "how many thousand will it cost me to get this upgrade" than "what upgrade will I get"

indigo solar
limber pine
limber pine
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If u get Anastasia double target u can make it pretty far with solar buff and range + fire rate

bold thunder
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Interestingly 30 doesn't have the same jump

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Seems to be about the same from 29-30 as it is from 28-29

sharp talon
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acute buff and anesthesia work pretty well

opal pilot
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is this game dying?
its took me 1 hour only for matchmaking now

limber pine
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Before the rework 99 was cake, now I can't make it passed 88

bold thunder
opal pilot
bold thunder
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I don't know of anyone else whose made it past 30 (on solo, 35-40ish on coop)

sharp talon
opal pilot
sharp talon
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yea im apac/emea, i dont have hour long queues for those

opal pilot
soft bobcat
bold thunder
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My solo pb is clearing 30, which is also the pb I've seen from a couple of other people

limber pine
bold thunder
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I'm pretty confident 31 is doable and maybe 32/33, but claiming 88 right now is a pretty extreme jump up

soft bobcat
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6 different towers?

limber pine
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That's what I started with anyways, then I slowly upgraded based on the buffs I got available and changed towers around based on the enemy mods

sharp talon
limber pine
bold thunder
limber pine
soft bobcat
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Bro found a glitch in the matrix

limber pine
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The bomb thingy

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I probably used 15 towers throught the rounds

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Wish there was a triumph lol

bold thunder
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That's an image you posted a week ago of a run from before the patch lol

limber pine
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7 days ago was the 14th

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2 days after patch

bold thunder
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You posted that on the 12th (the day of the patch), you can literally click the linked message to jump to it

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In it you said "This was with 14 level 3 tier 2 hoofs"

limber pine
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Then on the day of the patch lol

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Yes u can't get that til round 40

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U said how to get passed 21

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I told u what I started with

bold thunder
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I feel like I'm getting baited at this point so

limber pine
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Go try it out lol

soft bobcat
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Tell us the secret to the 6th tower slot first 👀

limber pine
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I can ss the zones where to put which ones if u like

dusk hemlock
blissful tinsel
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Is anyone using MuMu player on Mac to play?

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If so what settings are you using?

limber pine
bold thunder
# limber pine Go try it out lol

Go try out the 14 maxed stone hoof strategy, the thing they nerfed with that patch and has already been verified to not work anymore by multiple people (including myself lol)

short locust
dusk hemlock
limber pine
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Before with 14 hoof u could afk and get 99

signal spade
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I'm witnessing ragebait in real time

bold thunder
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How about they just buff the non-anesthesia towers to be good

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Wave 20 isn't that bad with a good build, they just made it so that there's basically only 1 good build

signal spade
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You can get pretty far with vengeance and fulminators but ya there's only one boss dps tower which is boring

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And the talent for it doesn't even buff the st

bold thunder
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I was able to get to 14 with vengeance

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Still haven't managed to clear 15 without anesthesia though

signal spade
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Ya I haven't messed around with a scorch or bleed build yet but it's hard to tell if it's working ever

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The fulminator execute talent is goated though

bold thunder
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The enemies need a little symbol over them for the debuffs they have

signal spade
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Ya that'll prob show up in a patch at some point mode feels not fully done

soft bobcat
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Wave 22+ with no bomb / shooting so far.

bold thunder
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My furthest without bomb was about that I think

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Low 20s somewhere

twilit thistle
soft bobcat
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2 hearts was cause I was talking in Discord at like wave 9 and got hit by a bunch of reds

bold thunder
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The orange bars get really hard in the mid 20s and I couldn't find something to keep up

signal spade
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Yea im betting on the April update being the actual 1.0 and we're in extended beta right now

simple plank
signal spade
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And if it sucks after April we're cooked

simple plank
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no escaping Destiny 2

twilit thistle
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🙏 refund our silver like the other beta

signal spade
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But I refuse to doom until the new raids bad

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Cause they have been pumping a lot of content into this game despite how much everyone acts like it's dead

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The systems are just bad

lapis swallow
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Damn, they are nerfing Arbalest later

twilit thistle
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Ads for extra pinnacle, is what I have said all day. Save the game? No. Give us and the devs more time in all scenarios? Yes.

signal spade
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They don't need more devs or ad money though they're legit giving us a lot of content problem is it's all like pointless to run without energy

sharp talon
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if s4 flops with the new raid, campaign, pinnacle rework, etc etc. ill stop believing lol

signal spade
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Yea s4 is the actual test

soft bobcat
signal citrus
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Best umeko build?

twilit thistle
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I meant the 40 u get a day. If that was an opt in to watch an ad, and then get it.

twilit thistle
signal citrus
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Umeko seems fun to play

lapis swallow
signal spade
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Oh sure but it's Netease they like print money I don't think this games revenue is an issue for them yet they're not doing a big marketing push by any means nor hyping the game anywhere

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I expect a lot of ads and new player pushes in April

sharp talon
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yeah they're taking their time reworking stuff i think

signal spade
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And then the cosmetics to start not sucking

soft bobcat
twilit thistle
sharp talon
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the seasonal campaign starting in s4 (beyond main campaign) also requires seasonal backlog

signal spade
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Cause rn all of the skins are so mid it's painful

signal citrus
lapis swallow
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I want Helhest rerun sadly, I want her on S3

limber furnace
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Okey, devs, why can't you put marks on missions gauntlet ops Crota. ?

bold thunder
sharp talon
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i want hh to come back but maybe not too soon so i can save more lumia 🤣

limber furnace
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To show what we have to do there

soft bobcat
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And Scorch damage is okay too

limber furnace
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Or missions objectives with indications

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Just make it simpler

sharp talon
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there are instructions on the left side of the screen

bold thunder
lapis swallow
twilit thistle
limber furnace
signal spade
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Yea scorched mobs take more damage from anas

bold thunder
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I thought anesthesia buffed the rate that scorch stacks accumulate

bold thunder
limber furnace
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We need visual indications

sharp talon
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yeah a tutorial i guess would help a lot

limber furnace
soft bobcat
signal spade
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What do you mean the game shows that we have gotten like 8 new characters in 5 months ,were about to get our third raid and we got two new activities just this season alone with the second coming like next week

limber furnace
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In crota

bold thunder
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I think I need 6 more anes to t4 it

sharp talon
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oh it was that one LMAO

limber furnace
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Yeah

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Like I know what to do on the other 3 missions but crota

bold thunder
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It'll be my first t4 mythic too which is kind of exciting (a bit odd that I got 3 exotics before any mythics)

signal spade
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It's scorched earth specifically which isn't super easy to keep up

soft bobcat
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I only have blue T4's so far (all of the blues) but I'm getting there soon too

twilit thistle
lapis swallow
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Did they announce new content for later's maintenance?

soft bobcat
bold thunder
signal spade
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Yea I just mean keeping the scorched up buff on mobs towards the exit is rough unless you're manually targeting with the talent I guess

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And ya range buff feels like a scam sometimes

dusty spire
limber furnace
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Missions should be more mainstream line, easy to understand what we have to do.

dusty spire
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No point putting out certain things if it won’t sale

bold thunder
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If you can keep the trash from killing you, range lets you get more damage on the bosses, and they're the hard bottleneck atm

signal citrus
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How do I check the builds of people in the leaderboards

bold thunder
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Idk how else to push more damage into the bosses to push into the 30s

signal spade
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Yea it's just stinky if stuff leaks from the sides cause it immediately went to the center

dusty spire
signal citrus
dusty spire
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It’s definitely had a fair loop for a collectors game imo

signal spade
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Yea I agree I think even beyond the gacha model the game feels like the devs are very much awake and committed to making it better rn

sharp talon
signal spade
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I just don't think Netease wants to market a game they aren't fully proud of yet which is why I expect the s4 stuff to be a big transition

dusty spire
sharp talon
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anyway if you can, check expanse leaderboards instead of power leaderboards

signal spade
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Yea this games been in development since beyond light

dusty spire
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So I’m waiting on some quarter reports to see

signal spade
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They'll make it good and if it ever gets a real pc port it'll pop off

soft bobcat
dusty spire
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But as far as I’m aware netease has nooooo problem keeping this service alive lol

signal spade
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Emulator is holding it back so hard

bold thunder
dusty spire
signal spade
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Does scorch ignite in this game?

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Why is that cc

bold thunder
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I didn't think it affected anesthesia's damage

signal citrus
# twilit thistle

Well it shows me another person, I think it’s because of the server

signal citrus
dusty spire
soft bobcat
dusty spire
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@signal spade I think who ever uses jotuun will have a area of affect as their main thing and uses spread with it

twilit thistle
bold thunder
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Oh interesting I assumed the "stacks" referred to scorch stacks, yeah maybe thats worth using then

signal spade
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I just meant for the towers sorry like ten convos at once why does scorched earth have anything to do with anesthesia ramp time

bold thunder
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It can't stun bosses though can it

soft bobcat
bold thunder
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Interesting

soft bobcat
dusty spire
soft bobcat
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But it's hitting boses and the 2nd ray is stunning stuff around it

dusty spire
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And will be the reason for more fusion rifles lol

bold thunder
signal spade
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Ya but scorch isn't knockout is it

dusty spire
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He will dive into enemy’s and leave scorch and any finals blows will make it even more

soft bobcat
signal spade
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Oh I see

bold thunder
signal spade
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Yes that's strong then

bold thunder
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Which is very odd wording imo but DR will DR

signal spade
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I see ty

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Jotunn actually owns in this game as a primary weapon problem is xuan wei is pain

signal spade
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Id upgrade it if I could use it on any other character

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I hate jotunn in d2 but rising version hits different

dusty spire
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It don’t hit

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It’s because xuan has no scorch

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He procs it

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But it don’t really work

signal spade
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Yea

dusty spire
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Like I feel a hero will actually amp this up within their kit

signal spade
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If they add like merciless to this game I wonder what it'll look like

dusty spire
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Part of the weapon mastery maybe

signal spade
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Infinite ammo fusion rifles can be pretty strong

dusty spire
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Like ok xuan is the only user but what gives for not one

limber furnace
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About : into the abyss. You can take shortcuts or you need to go from Pilar to Pilar ?

signal spade
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Maybe next char is void fusion with telesto bp weapon

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That'd be fun

dusty spire
karmic chasm
limber furnace
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Is there a way to find a map?

dusty spire
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Void warlock -> solar titan -> arc warlock - void hunter is my guess

limber furnace
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I haven't paid attention in-game if I can press to see the map

karmic chasm
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Idk about rising

sharp talon
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someone posted a map i think on the rising subreddit

limber furnace
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So in a way, you need to trust your memory

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To get it Right

dusty spire
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That would keep it balanced

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Then void hunter into another solar hunter

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Wolf update

limber furnace
sharp talon
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probably, just search for it on youtube

limber furnace
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Okai

soft bobcat
dusty spire
limber furnace
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În crota I have no idea what to do :))) I finish the gauntlet, got the gun but idk how I passed Crota

dusty spire
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Healing support kit on Umeko buffs the team and also debuffs enemies

lapis swallow
limber furnace
lapis swallow
twilit thistle
limber furnace
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Oh so we need to swap

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Didn't know that

karmic chasm
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2 people is an easy flawless run

limber furnace
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I almost did it alone cuz all the teammates left but I got killed at the semi final Pilar :((

bold thunder
karmic chasm
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What’s funny about Abyss is you can actually sprint to the secret chest (without Ning) and have like 2 seconds to spare and open it

limber furnace
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Huh

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Lol 😂

lapis swallow
soft bobcat
# bold thunder Interesting, so the knockout stun actually happens mid shot?

It can yes, because the shot is beam that uses multiple ammo. I'm not sure how much ammo per shot exactly. But if you played the other Destiny games it's exactly like the Beam Rifles in those games. Each ammo consumed = 1 shot and if the target has scorch each 1 ammo consumed gives 2 stacks I believe.

limber furnace
bold thunder
soft bobcat
bold thunder
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That makes sense given the text about resetting on a new target

limber furnace
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But when I first played the mission, as a newbie, I was playing in daylight and I could not see the abyss hole. I was falling over and over again

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😂

smoky canopy
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Drising is dead give it up

dusk hemlock
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My wallet says otherwise

short locust
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Idk why I found that so funny lmaoo

limber furnace
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Limited pinnacle energy is so Anticipate dead

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I'm on zero

dusk hemlock
short locust
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You can have mine

lapis swallow
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The game's way saying you need to touch grass 🥀

smoky canopy
limber furnace
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But it will be overkill for the rarities of the weapons drop

dusk hemlock
smoky canopy
limber furnace
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Like imagine spamming a guarantee of 100 missions to get that 5% weapon

karmic chasm
dusk hemlock
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Having it be a daily reset for pinnicle rewards is booty cheeks

dusk hemlock
karmic chasm
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Exactly

karmic chasm
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I’m glad I don’t, but I miss it

dusk hemlock
limber furnace
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Doing public events all day 🪿

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Gettin' that upgrades

smoky canopy
limber furnace
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I didn't know I could completed the Legendary campaign with that Barrow operator to get the protagonist stuff until yesterday

dusk hemlock
dusk hemlock
hushed crown
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@smoky canopy please stop 🙂

karmic chasm
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Yo the devil himself

smoky canopy
dusk hemlock
karmic chasm
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Ragebaiting is pretty fun

smoky canopy
hushed crown
twilit thistle
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This is a discord created in china actually

sharp talon
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u dont have freedom of speech on a discord server

dusk hemlock
limber furnace
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Searching 9 minutes for a crota's End / Bridge Crossing mission without succes

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At least give me bots

sharp talon
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ngl would be kinda fire to have bots in normal crota

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they would know what to do lol

soft bobcat
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Bridge makes sense. No one wants to run that with randos

limber furnace
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I m playing only normal because I don't have operators above 55k power :))

soft bobcat
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But Corta is pretty easy with Randos. What region are you @limber furnace

modern pasture
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Rn unless u directly invite people no one randomly joining crota

lapis swallow
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Figures

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It's pretty active in APAC server

soft bobcat
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Well yea it's 12-5am here

limber furnace
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:)))

limber furnace
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2 a.m for me

lapis swallow
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You won't be having runs this time, people are asleep

limber furnace
karmic chasm
lapis swallow
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APAC has the perfect mix of people still awake in one side of the hemisphere, one is sleeping. Then there's Asia region where anyone barely sleeps

sharp talon
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apac and emea are merged tho?

smoky canopy
pulsar coral
karmic chasm
soft bobcat
limber furnace
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Mods r just PAIN

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the hardest stuff to get

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So complicated to make with good perks too 🪿

soft bobcat
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Yeah Exotic Mod grind is pain I agree. Especially since some of the rolls don't even work for all the weapon types

limber furnace
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Too complicated for me

soft bobcat
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Oh okay heavy attack attribute on my shotgun ty game

smoky canopy
limber furnace
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16 minutes for team random searching and still 1/6

lapis swallow
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I dismantled my Wolfpack exotic mods and transferred it to Kulfi, best decision in my playthrough

lapis swallow
limber furnace
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Bots do, I will play heaven ops

karmic chasm
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All the new players are EMEA so I can never help

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When are we getting a full merge Netease 🙏

devout void
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new record 6683joeshrug

lapis swallow
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I'm happy I am in APAC server rn, it's super active

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Can play any time I want

karmic chasm
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Or better I should say

modern pasture
lapis swallow
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Tan is underwhelming sadly

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Basically Helhest replaced all support type characters

limber furnace
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Maybe regional in your country

karmic chasm
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Not quite but like

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Almost

lapis swallow
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She's like #1 in terms of total DPS and utility, even if you don't have a good DPS build for her, her buffs is too important to any teams

devout void
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@soft bobcat thank you for quick carry

soft bobcat
devout void
soft bobcat
lapis swallow
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If this game becomes solo friendly more, it might see more players. Atm, the only solo raid you can do is Artifact farming with enhanced drop rate on exotic artifacts.

lapis swallow
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We need more Mythic spread weapons, we only have 1 atm for primary

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Rest of the weapon class has so many

naive ingot
lapis swallow
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The game needs a decent hardware to run on mobile, that alone reduced the # of new players trying this

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Plus they are bad at marketing on this game, you barely even see ads for this game

karmic chasm
errant narwhal
delicate mango
#

Lol

karmic chasm
bold thunder
#

Tan's looks cool, but I played so long with him on t4 that it's weird to get used to

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Some of the animated avatars look so different from the 2d ones

twilit thistle
#

@neat valley That carry was a little heavier than the last ones. I hit a new pr on damage.

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@karmic chasm 👀

neat valley
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finalla lol

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she was putting in work

karmic chasm
twilit thistle
#

and i instantly have no problem running umeko on it

errant narwhal
twilit thistle
vast arch
twilit thistle
#

@neat valley when u gonna be on next

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Apparently u can just solo q to master 1 still

vast arch
errant narwhal
#

I gotta get outta relegation too, been lazy

twilit thistle
rotund flame
# twilit thistle 😇

Dang the fact that 2 non t6 characters could get close to your score is impressive. They must have a good build. Also is the bp weapon not good for helhest?

indigo solar
abstract cedar
short locust
#

Fuggin Jeff

humble jacinth
#

Hehe

The ghost that greets you and flys off when you start the game did the Wolf kicking Crota emoji at me 🤣

rotund flame
#

Man my randoms throwing in the tower defense game when they don't take Anastasia 😭

open mason
#

this week is really Disappointed

humble jacinth
#

What's the counter to unstoppable incendiors? I can get to wave 20+ solo. But on multiplayer they seemingly have a 1hp solar shield that non of my turrets (the usual stonehoof, muqam, anasthesia) can break.

indigo solar
#

And are you sure it's not just the health bar bugging and not updating

humble jacinth
indigo solar
#

That's been a persistent issue

humble jacinth
#

It's a solar shield that looks drained on bottom except for a sliver. Or maybe the hp bar is at a sliver and the shield is full and unbreakable 🤷‍♂️

signal spade
#

its the same bug that happens with the ogres on crota

twilit thistle
signal spade
#

theyll be dying with a full void overshield

livid sable
#

Helhest stays winning

twilit thistle
#

After running hellhest for a while, the solution to hellhest isn’t just a nerf. It’s buffing a lot of the other characters. Hellhest is op bc the kit is flawless.

livid sable
#

Even in no piercing/arc content I feel like her+2 teammates that can break shield or shinka is still a top contender 😂

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I have t5 helhest and I'm only just starting to realize how much I'm carrying some of these runs 😂

bold thunder
#

Like taniks said I'd love to see a video if you get a chance

rotund flame
true basin
#

Happy Wednesday peeps

#

Anyone been grinding the Crota raid weapons yet?

karmic chasm
#

I need more practice on Helhest

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Gonna play her some tonight

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This IS who they based Helhest on. I’m fully convinced

twilit thistle
#

🤔 I wonder who they based wraith on- oh wait I mean umeko

karmic chasm
#

Sure, but wraith isn’t nearly as appealing in my opinion

versed scroll
#

Help me, best setup for Maru.

rotund flame
#

Man randoms picking random towers that are trash and not picking the 2x laser for Anastasia for the second upgrade is too much. My map all I see is them being overwhelmed by mobs lol

karmic chasm
#

HHs basic skins are growing on me so I got the pink one to match her mythic pink arm… idk what decals to put tho

true mauve
#

Id say pink probably

wise scroll
#

its been awhile since i played destiny rising ever since wwm came out, any new character? after jaren?

twilit thistle
twilit thistle
#

jaren has no issues topping leaderboards, sorry.

prisma nest
#

u right

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but also

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buff jaren? Jaren

twilit thistle
#

cough estella gwynn tan both kabrs jolder rossi attal ikora xuan wei. cough no i didn't forget finalla, i just dont like finalla, and wolf cant be buffed bc f2p would never play the game.

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Sadly netease wont touch anything bc of the fear that comes with upsetting the community. I think estella is the obvious target to buff, in the meantime. Just earlier I met an Estella who literally got embarrassed in morgrans and i watched go through the stages of grief, before leaving midway.

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There are still more sad Estella's out in the wild than any other character, and most of them aren't even 70k. The majority of returning players are running Estella. Always above 60k and below 70k. always.

limber pine
#

Estela* btw

errant narwhal
#

is there any point to oob on mograns here

twilit thistle
#

no but there is a point to jumping off the map instead of the portal if ur ina fireteam actually

errant narwhal
#

spawns you into the next zone?

twilit thistle
#

yep. Just respawn all at once. Does nothing with blueberries. I edited footage of morgrans for taniks. If u get teleported, thats -5 seconds of the 60 seconds you have.

#

@remote pelican* this weekend btw

leaden osprey
#

Log in every 3 days waiting this game to be dead

#

👻

twilit thistle
#

Keep dreaming. Marvel Mystic Mayhem would have had rights from Disney, who had an hq in the USA. Sony isnt in the USA, and likely had agreements that prevent EOS like this.

indigo solar
#

You also can't force which island the next wave will be on by moving there ahead of time

twilit thistle
#

How did you figure this out

#

You cant solo q it

karmic chasm
bold thunder
twilit thistle
karmic chasm
# karmic chasm First try uhhh 😩

Lowkey may be maining HH (with this skin) for a minute now. I’ve always liked how she plays and I was uh beating out a T4 in Calamity ops runs

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T1 for me

rotund flame
bold thunder
#

genuinely

rotund flame
#

I already know I'm going to lose co-op when I don't see my randoms with muqam/Anastasia/stone hoof 😭

#

The other 2 slots can be whatever you feel is good. I been using that one tower that scorches the map and increases fire damage

bold thunder
#

see I feel like you're just being narrow minded

#

surely they have some cracked strat that no one else has found yet

#

they're definitely not going to leak goblins on wave 6

twilit thistle
#

acute still wasnt enough. I just got shredded around wave 20

delicate mango
#

It's not the same anymore

#

but I wonder if the others have made it to wave 90+

rotund flame
# twilit thistle 😭

Feel like it's easier this time around in solo mode. Last time it felt impossible because of the big Knights that where also fast

bold thunder
#

I don't think we have the dps to get to the 90s anymore

delicate mango
#

damn

sinful totem
delicate mango
#

there's no way I'm the only one there's gotta be someone who has made to wave 95 or 93

bold thunder
#

low 30s is definitely possible, but by wave 30 you're barely killing the boss in time anyway

sinful totem
#

And is it significantly sweatier?

rotund flame
#

Jackpot! 1 step closer to 4 staring the best tower in the game!

delicate mango
#

I was so close to almost making it to wave 100

rotund flame
delicate mango
#

but then again I wouldn't even survive it Bec the boss health don't go down easily

sinful totem
#

The mode was mad fun when it first dropped, but it got insanely annoying recently

delicate mango
#

It was fun ngl I was cooking it man

sinful totem
#

Bullet sponges is wack, dealt with that in d2 enough

bold thunder
# sinful totem What’s the setup tho

my pb used Anesthesia/Stone Hoof/Acute Field/Otter on Umeko with prudence:
fire rate, direct damage, anesthesia double beam, solar damage, range, acute field upgrade, otter upgrade
Red - Anesthesia
Blue - Acute Field
Green - Otter
Purple - Stone Hoof

delicate mango
#

this is the highest I've gotten before they nerf everything

rotund flame
bold thunder
#

Some people I've seen cut the otter for an extra anesthesia

#

but most wave 25+ are basically anesthesia spam with hoof and acute mixed in for buffs

sinful totem
#

What does anesthesia specialize in

bold thunder
#

it has the highest dps and prioritizes the highest health enemy in its range, so mainly boss dps

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but also it stuns non-boss enemies after a second or so of shooting them, and its upgrade lets it shoot two enemies at once

rotund flame
bold thunder
#

which makes it good at basically everything (it's kind of op atm)

#

you basically need it to get to wave 15 to my knowledge, I don't know of anyone who has cleared without it

#

the game isn't very well balanced atm

rotund flame
bold thunder
#

please no

calm vortex
#

it also helps Anas is a relatively cheap turret to build

bold thunder
#

just buff everything else

rotund flame
bold thunder
sinful totem
#

Nocturne bleeds tho right

rotund flame
#

Anastasia and stone hoof are sometimes the last tower most people get sadly. Stone hoof was the last tower i was missing as well 😭

calm vortex
#

Im still missing a single tower and is the big old shotgun that looks like a gatling gun

bold thunder
bold thunder
rotund flame
calm vortex
#

The other tower I kinda like is the one that shoots lightning, at T2 could be interesting cause it gains Knockout which is an immunity ignoring stun in an AoE

rotund flame
#

The other exotic towers need a buff or re work. Don't see a reason to use them for the amount they cost. Only stone hoof is good because it does everything lol

sinful totem
#

I was enjoying the concept of combining muskrat and the jolt tower

calm vortex
#

Honestly its not even that Stone Hoof does everything for me its that the everything it does is just a passive aura while other turrets actually need to hit their targets to apply the effects

#

and because of that some turrets that could be really good at dealing with modifiers arent as good as they could be

sinful totem
#

So if I see anesthesia, grab copies of that?

calm vortex
#

Another thing I think would be cool to emphasize in places is its really clear some towers are meant to combo with others but the actual effects arent particularly impactful the way it is right now

#

Or other effects like Gravity where a lot of enemies kind of just walk out of it before it actually starts pulling, a lot of CC or Slow is pretty inconvenient to actually use or only applies to primary target

bold thunder
#

4 star is nice if you run scorched earth towers, but 4 star mythics take a crazy amount to unlock

#

One of the highest priority towers to upgrade though imo

bold thunder
#

Idk if that's too much complexity to ask for from an arcade mode though

sinful totem
bold thunder
#

3 star increases its damage by about 20% (also gives it some more range iirc)

#

4 star makes it do 30% more damage to enemies standing on scorched earth

#

Not something I usually run personally, but if you run a build with something like the mythic ballista tower it can be a big deal

stiff breach
#

is it worth it to use tokens to get dvergar drill for ikora?

karmic chasm
oak kettle
# karmic chasm Not if you don’t plan on getting cat 3

To add to this, investing in Ikora to begin with is a questionable decision. If you’re certain that you want to then sure, but the better 4 star spread shinka option for everything other than the peak of endgame is probably Gallows Kabr

oak kettle
bold thunder
#

Honestly Wolf's also a fine alternative if you just want coverage for things like campaign

oak kettle
#

Oh yeah kinda forgot Wolf is also spread

bold thunder
#

And most of his stuff is free

#

I feel like I personally wouldn't buy the BP gl unless it was for Maru (or I really wanted to main Ikora specifically)

oak kettle
#

And also Finnala with partridge sky is also a potential spread candidate

bold thunder
#

But if it's the latter, supposedly we're getting 5* ikora soon so might be worth waiting

oak kettle
#

Yeah Theres just so many other options to go for that are better than Ikora for 4 star spread and far, far cheaper to build towards, so really only do it if you’re absolutely sure you want to main 4 star Ikora

#

And 5 star options add Gwynn and Jaren with Octant, Jolder with Partridge and Estella with Gallows as 4 more characters that can deal with spread while not being spread users

#

(And obviously Maru but that’s a given)

bold thunder
#

I do like Ikora, I wish there were a way to get the gl without spending like $30 per copy

oak kettle
#

Her kit is neat but just not enough

#

Even comparing to other 4 stars I’d just rather run Wolf for spread

stiff breach
#

royal contravene or arbelest on kabr?

errant narwhal
#

both

oak kettle
errant narwhal
#

depends on content

calm vortex
#

If you dont wanna think about specific use cases just pick Contravene, its also a lot easier to upgrade than Arbalest for non-spenders

oak kettle
errant narwhal
stiff breach
#

so i can use my tokens to start buying the drill

#

i wasnt around when maru released

oak kettle
#

Honestly? I’d hold em

errant narwhal
#

do you have maru?

#

I wouldn’t buy the drill without her at least T1

stiff breach
#

k

errant narwhal
#

buying the discounted arbalest is worth it imo

oak kettle
#

That one might be worth it, saves you 20 in the long run if you ever end up needing it

stiff breach
#

wish i didnt miss helhest lol

errant narwhal
#

I’m tired of helhest

stiff breach
#

my friend wont even build his helhest

oak kettle
# oak kettle Honestly? I’d hold em

But otherwise you can hold onto em and when a 5 star you really like pops in you can grab em and get their likely best in slot weapon fully up soon enough

errant narwhal
#

I have T6 but Id rather play Jaren in everything

stiff breach
#

i love my t6 jaren

errant narwhal
#

same

stiff breach
#

i bit the bullet and got him the demon pistol skin

errant narwhal
#

Helhest is good for leaderboards but not good for fun lol

oak kettle
#

I do really like her personally, her kit just kinda vibes with how I like to play

stiff breach
#

after playing jaren qywnn feels slow lol

#

gywnn*

bold thunder
#

I feel like I would like helhest more if she weren't so oppressive

#

But she's so good at so many things that she singlehandedly makes like half of the characters obsolete

oak kettle
#

A wee bit overtuned, shall we say

#

Thats personally why I’m investing in her so much tbf. I like her playstyle and I know my investment in artifact power won’t be wasted as she will stick around through power creep for a while

bold thunder
#

That makes sense

oak kettle
#

Well. I say that. It’s definitely wasted now but you just know power levels for endgame are gonna rise again at some point and then having her at max power will have been worth

#

Right now I am simply investing beyond what is ever needed for the funny

celest fjord
#

Chat, can someone help me to the the bridge mission for Crota, I’m tired of getting teamed up with useless people who can’t actually play

#

I keep getting teamed with people who fail as clankers

oak kettle
#

And thus waiting for the clueless people to do something… which isn’t happening

celest fjord
#

The people I got put with failed the captcha test
That’s how stupid they all are and are causing me failure after failure

stiff breach
#

would defense boost be better than recovery boost on jaren?

celest fjord
#

No clue, don’t have the season 2 characters or Estella from season 1

oak kettle
stiff breach
#

need mats anyways to roll my godroll 4th slot

oak kettle
#

Honestly 3 gold 1 silver is probably what I’d shoot for

stiff breach
#

for my offensive ones i did 3 gold and solar damage

oak kettle
#

4 gold is perfect but you can always use stat rerolls to perfect the 4th stat

stiff breach
#

idk why solar damage isnt a thumbs up lol

#

i dont run the normal build that some people run lol

thin valve
oak kettle
thin valve
#

Might get my jaren to 76k again

stiff breach
#

i feel like elemental resist should be gold and not melee dmg resist

prisma nest
#

bro like

devout void
bitter estuary
#

if i dont get them mods game eos next week 🤞

devout void
#

Eager aspirant meta

#

But thats a lot of input for a casual jarren, best jarren clip ive seen 😭

bitter estuary
bitter estuary
#

d:r genuinely has a good depth in the combat where i see almost none with literally any other gacha

devout void
#

Well Arbalest probably help their run also, now its over

Mid cycle fix again 6683joeshrug

#

Love when player find niche strat

bitter estuary
#

anyways i think threat level is nice for void impact but next patch might not be void impact so idk

#

swordbreaker definitely need fire rate boost i think

#

and recoil

devout void
#

I think they use handling and fire rate

#

Fire rate the most important

bitter estuary
#

yeah

#

which is somehow hard to get 🥀

eager gazelle
#

Yo, how do you get this please? The crota "one small step for manking" triumph/sticker?

serene ingot
#

How do i claim my 5$ from giveaway xD

serene ingot
true mauve
true mauve
devout void
#

Yes, we shouldn't create a skill gap in the game

true mauve
true mauve
true mauve
true mauve
upper bronzeBOT
#
Maintenance Notice!

The Destiny: Rising servers will be brought offline for scheduled maintenance on <t:1766055600> in your timezone.

During this time, the Destiny: Rising server will be down, and Lightbearers will be unable to log in to the game. Please plan your game time accordingly.

We anticipate the downtime to last up to 3 hours and will keep you posted on any unexpected delays."

silk cave
#

Got a banned message on my game

#

When will this be fixed ?

true mauve
#

Never

serene ingot
true mauve
cobalt beacon
#

@novel quest swordbreaker is so good im scrapping my thermop

#

10/10 gun after arby nerf

serene ingot
#

Is arby trash now?

true mauve
cobalt beacon
serene ingot
#

Oh right it hasnt even updated yet xd

serene ingot
cobalt beacon
serene ingot
#

Its always this new wpn comes out everyone says its trash then i invest in to the other wepn and then ppl come and say the other one is actually better 😭

tight talon
#

logging in to realise i didnt spend 60 energy before capping on 360 today

bitter estuary
#

children yearn for crota's end

tight talon
bitter estuary
#

mythics are so fun now that they're easily grindable without pinnacle

tight talon
#

People might not agree but Old Perfect can take down a precision shinka faster than any HC (tho you need to be closer, either its that or use Precision Heavy)

rotund raptor
#

Did maintence start?

tight talon
#

obvi

sly hornet
#

Server is down

tight talon
#

and gonna stay like that for 3 hours minimum while all employees are off for CNY

sly hornet
#

Someone send the skeleton shield meme and we riot for the servers to go back on fr

tight talon
#

me first

rotund raptor
#

Like 2 h max

tight talon
#

we havent had proper updates since last 2 maintenances

#

always minor things

sly hornet
rotund raptor
#

The big updates are only when the act ends or some big event

coarse gulch
#

Every*

rotund raptor
#

I just got arby to cat 2 and gonna leave it at that

#

Im gonna be 1k power short but whatever

sly hornet
#

Should i upgrade a bunch of charachters or just focus on a few?

#

For now i focused on wolf and a mythical arc one that uses a staff (i forgot his name)

rotund raptor
#

3 or 4 should work

sly hornet
#

I hope i get a mythical void char soon, i dont wanna waste resources on a weaker one

#

Btw for how long do the servers stay down usually? Couple mins or few hours?

rotund raptor
#

3 hours max

#

Sometimes earlier

raw glade
#

Is the new mode coming tonight?

sly hornet
#

3 hours? Crud, there goes my plans for the morning

rotund raptor
sly hornet
devout void
#

cordon next week sadly

sick marsh
#

I have not been paying much attention. Is there a new character coming with the new mode next week, or are we in a long wait for a new character?

devout void
#

nothing next week yes, should be february

sick marsh
#

Well, at least that gives me a lot of time to farm up resources/currency. Appreciate it.

devout void
#

cant wait to max the best weapon

pulsar coral
#

do giveaways just get sent to accounts automatically?

narrow bridge
serene ingot
bitter estuary
tight talon
serene ingot
#

Well duh how many marus have you seen this cycle? Xd

tight talon
#

too many esp in Crota Anxious

serene ingot
#

Well yeah she was good for a couple crota maps i guess

devout void
faint bramble
#

Polaris lance or Symmetry?

sly hornet
#

Does anyone know a good way to increase reputation fast? Im stuck at tier 8 and i grabbed every single collectible i could in jiangshen metro

rotund raptor
#

Public events

#

Also the quests all over map

serene ingot
#

Also daily commissions

sly hornet
#

I did every single quest i could till now

sly hornet
rotund raptor
serene ingot
sly hornet
#

Ik its just that i played all day yesterday and then the game didnt reset the quest yet lol

rotund raptor
#

If u done evry quest do a lot of public events

sly hornet
#

Aight

serene ingot
#

I think im rank 20 on both maps and i basically only do my 6 weekly keys and grab all the chests on the way

tight talon
sly hornet
serene ingot
sly hornet
#

But after this update it should have reset

#

I think

wild stream
#

Are we ever gonna get a new map in this game 🥲 or a biggerand more Interactive one at least

sly hornet
#

Most likely we get a third map this year

#

I hope

grand shore
violet minnow
#

Wow they really put high effort in today's patch notes, so much content goddamn

devout void
#

The new mode was for end of january they cant do much

dusty spire
#

You think a ability skill tree expansion could work?

For example give the current abilities 1-2 one other option on how it is used?

Make us work for end game items to open it up.

Or do you think this just robs future character development?

short locust
#

Not only that but Fomo hits hard for characters you didn't get

stark forge
#

poe skill tree sounds good

dusty spire
#

Tan got pre nerfed 🤣🥶

wheat ferry
short locust
narrow bridge
dusty spire
#

Completely forgot about that @short locust 😂😅

short locust
dusty spire
#

That’s annoying why you using chaos effects for a trailer

short locust
#

Uh, hype?

#

Any trailer ever?

#

Tan did get nerfed early on though fr

#

The internal CD on his meter (which Umeko doesn't have btw despite being a similar system)

valid ether
#

Is it worth levelling the epics past the gold medal requirements Umeko

#

All my mythical are now maxed or just stack resources

hushed crown
rough sedge
#

I would stack resources for when we get next character personally

valid ether
#

Wonder who it will be I never played DR2

short locust
#

Shout out Dead Rising 2

bitter estuary
rough sedge
#

Probably another void. Hopefully they don’t start revamping standard character regularly

rough sedge
bitter estuary
rough sedge
fervent nexus
devout void
#

my biggest issue is mobius i keep dismantle equipped mobius

rough sedge
serene ingot
#

I hope next char got 2 diff wepn types

short locust
#

Sidearm/Rocket get bent kekw

rough sedge
serene ingot
#

I hope like void rapidfire spread

cyan tide
bitter estuary
rough sedge
#

If only people would play it more often

#

I’m always waiting in a loading lobby for 5+ minutes (I know, so impatient and modern, I’ve forgotten how to wait)

serene ingot
#

Is deathsingers faster than bridge crossing?

devout void
#

depend the matchmaking Clownskull

#

with a good team deathsingers is really quick

ebon swallow
#

Would be an update on my unexpected day off work 😂

glacial light
#

Downtime is over. Game is back up

ebon swallow
#

Ah didn’t let me in like 2 mins ago. I’ll try again

bitter estuary
#

servers live

narrow bridge
#

i4GgzppU

bitter estuary
serene ingot
#

I do bridge crossing cus i need like 5 sniper annihilation mags and also you can almost afk it

rotund raptor
#

I need to grind more abbys🫠

cobalt beacon
#

Yes arby nerf is here

#

🥹🥹🥹

bitter estuary
#

the end of attal

cobalt beacon
#

Hh nerf🥰🥰🥰🥰

cobalt beacon
#

It was a worth sacrifice tho

bitter estuary
#

balls

serene ingot
#

Can we stop calling helhest "hh" thats already taken 😭🤣

cobalt beacon
#

the attal sacrifice must be made

tight talon
#

.>

sharp talon
#

they need to buff crimson

bitter estuary
#

true!!!!

cobalt beacon
#

they need to nerf wolf

tropic swift
#

Tried to log on, forgot about the maintenance.. 🥲

serene ingot
#

They need to double helhest dmg tada

bitter estuary
#

wrong they need to buff xuan wei dmg by 67x

tropic swift
#

Where am I?.. 😏

serene ingot
#

Juan wei 5 star and its GG

sharp talon
#

make crimson instantly pop a rapid fire shinka with one burst 🔥

cobalt beacon
#

buff wolf\

serene ingot
#

Imagine wolf 5 star and ppl got the 1000$ skin on the 4 star version kek

tropic swift
tight talon
devout void
tropic swift
bitter estuary
#

helhest ender

tropic swift
#

Like £215-225 in fact.

serene ingot
bitter estuary
#

200 is insane value considering other gachas are absolute crap at times

sharp talon
#

that wolf skin is fire tbh

pulsar anvil
tropic swift
# serene ingot Oh only 200 kek it looks nice tho

Wanting every character released would definitely require money. So i bought all Double Silver Bundles plus a few addition to reach that threshold for the skin.
Havent had to buy any Silver since. T0 on Limited Characters to spread out my initial purchase as long as possible.

serene ingot
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You could get em all by only buying battlepass and monthly lumia pass

tropic swift
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I got all except maru but hh and jaren are t1 gwynn t2 and estela t0

tropic swift
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I think someone here had all as f2p but imo not the smart choice for f2p i'd rather save and try to get some tiers on 1 or 2 chars

indigo solar
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tropic swift
devout void
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Yep because those are the only things that i think are worth the money i'd happily buy some pulls but 20$ gets me like a 10 pull? Nty

indigo solar
tropic swift
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Never spent any of it tho

tropic swift
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F2P get just enough Lumia to get one copy on average every 4 weeks, before including events

serene ingot
indigo solar
tropic swift
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Sounds wasteful gimme gimme xD

tropic swift
serene ingot
tropic swift
indigo solar
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The only thing I've done with the silver is claim the "free" wolf skin reward when I got gifted

serene ingot
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Smh p2w 🫨

tropic swift
tight talon
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A typical standard for gacha is premium currency packs only return to 2x when the game reaches 1 year

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so once a year

serene ingot
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No wonder their revenue is dropping tbh the low to mid spender won't buy anything other than the monthly passes

tight talon
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More like

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low to mid spenders always buy the montly passes

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thats like bare minimum hook for gachas

gritty rune
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^ we usually get a new character by now but we still have to wait for 20 days

serene ingot
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That too i hope the seasonal campaign is cool tho

gritty rune
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Half the issue is with the loot tbh.

Bulwark doesn’t really give much and Crota is basically a glorified exo mod farm if you really need them cos there’s 1 exotic that’s not even that good for the whole raid

serene ingot
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Yea i'd hope they make bulwark worth playing

tight talon
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Bulwark should have given a "ramping" chest system. Go however high you wanna go, maybe get exo mods and exotic artifacts at 60+ energy spent

gritty rune
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Gacha really hurts this game cos you can tell that they just can’t add much variety in guns since you can’t nerf any characters

bitter estuary
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Go play other games ig

gritty rune
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tight talon
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Which is why you don’t see me around here much as before

tight talon
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i have prolly wasted 120 leaves atp

serene ingot
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Anyone tried enfield yet? Gonna try it out when i got off from w*rk

gritty rune
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So id wait for a bit if you wanna but anything

serene ingot
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Wth lool

gritty rune
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Some guy got charged 1300 Euro lol