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[pulsar coral]

That’s what I was thinking. Hard to beat RC or Arby

[indigo solar]

Umeko wants to lock Izzy, Steve I'm almost certain is better off with QB/Arby, tho I need to do some testing for odd interactions, and Tan wants Lockdown for everything that isn't Arc, so its only real use is Arc content with Tan but like... why

[pulsar coral]

Steve is ?

[serene ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/big-steve-sigma-steve-minecraft-chad-steve-gif-9873965683892181962

thats steve

[indigo solar]

New Kabr

[random steeple]

Everything from this was used
For PIT u btw have faster way to get up

[pulsar coral]

Why do you call him Steve lol

[indigo solar]

Again, these are less than half of the ones I wasn't sure if yall had used, and they were discovered in like November 2024

[karmic chasm]

I’ve been wondering the same thing even tho I also call him Steve

[indigo solar]

Basically bc when it first came out that they were making a mythic Kabr, people were complaining that they weren't making a new unit even tho he has different weapons and abilities, so some people pointed out that if he were called Steve the Resolute instead of Kabr the Resolute they wouldn't have had any issues with it

[karmic chasm]

Ahh now I remember that

[twilit thistle]

will he be played by jack black if we get a live action movie

[random steeple]

Cool, you played also DR Manager 2024? Crazy stuff!

[indigo solar]

Believe it or not I used to be on pretty much every leaderboard

Except expanse, that was John Bungie's thing

[twilit thistle]

still on leaderboards dont let taniks hustle you in ggg

[lofty gale]

John Destiny

[pulsar coral]

How do you edit showcase on profile? I keep forgetting

[twilit thistle]

archives

[pulsar coral]

Sweet

[proud meadow]

how do i get the last piece of a collectible illustration for kabr? sometimes it lets me buy it

[errant narwhal]

you can only buy at t6, otherwise you gotta pull it

[karmic chasm]

I literally need one more piece to have the entire set completed. Everything but the ghost

[errant narwhal]

I got super lucky with mine, got all in 140 pulls

[proud meadow]

i cant be that lucky to pull every single piece but one, from all 4 illustrations, as low spender

[proud meadow]

same

i thought with every duplicate i get to buy a piece

[karmic chasm]

Yea it’s stupid

[errant narwhal]

Nah just T6 allows buying pieces

[proud meadow]

will he have any illustration as a standard banner?

[indigo solar]

I finally got the transmat the other day but I think I'm gonna keep pulling bc I'm one away from sparrow and I need a full speed sparrow

[indigo solar]

Probably just one if he does get one, but I wouldn't be surprised if they forget to add it

[karmic chasm]

The ghost was the thing I wanted least, but it would still be nice to complete it

[errant narwhal]

Transmat effect was the best thing, super hero landing is peak

[karmic chasm]

In order I wanted transmat, emote, sparrow, ghost

[pulsar coral]

I got everything

[proud meadow]

did the same thing for jaren and i dont even use that ghost

[indigo solar]

Transmat, sparrow, emote, ghost for me

Got emote first tho, then transmat, now I'm one away from sparrow

[karmic chasm]

Oh well it’s a GREAT f2p sparrow. Good luck!!

[indigo solar]

Thankfully I've got a whole other month to get it

[karmic chasm]

I have the broom, that’s the only reason why I had it so low on the priority list. Impulse bought it

[indigo solar]

Tho I would've preferred more hit instead of charge up

I think

Idk haven't done a ton of testing on how stats other than speed affect it

I mean obv hit and turn grant additional nitro with higher levels, up to +25

And turn I think gives sharper turning

[karmic chasm]

I just drift on the broom

[indigo solar]

But unsure how exactly charge up affects

[indigo solar]

Same, honestly easier to control with some drift than perfect turning

Plus you keep more speed

[karmic chasm]

Exactly

I wanna go test them side by side now

I like how long Kabr’s sparrow is

[indigo solar]

All sparrows are the same size btw

Hitboxes don't change even if model does

[karmic chasm]

The hitbox is but his is extremely long

The model might be the longest. Maybe Estella’s is longer?

[indigo solar]

What about the first $200 one

[karmic chasm]

Wait was that not hers

I can’t recall

[indigo solar]

This is Estela's

This is the $200

But yeah Steve's looks to be longer

[karmic chasm]

Long af

[karmic chasm]

Yea it’s poking into Helhest lol

Does it have identical stats to that first one

[indigo solar]

Yes

[karmic chasm]

Nice

People prolly mad

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/pod-racing-pod-race-anakin-star-wars-gif-14869284

New Kabr def overcompensating lol

[karmic chasm]

I love hitting the transmat in and then zooming off on it

[karmic chasm]

He’s tall in all the wrong places 😔

[true mauve]

The thunder crash?

Ngl prob most peak drop in

[pulsar coral]

Looks like a beetle

[true mauve]

Rae Sremmurd

[karmic chasm]

Yes! It’s the coolest in the game. Makes me smile everytime I use him.

[short locust]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-film-superhero-landing-gina-carano-angel-dust-bad-for-knees-superhero-landing-deadpool-gina-carano-angel-dust-gif-9229610868331760585

[karmic chasm]

Lore accurate Kabr

[twilit thistle]

[random steeple]

To be honest i can belive you could be at top of LB

The reason I always tease you is not because I think you’re bad at the game or anything like that.
It’s because when someone in this chat disagrees with your predictions or conclusions, you usually start arguing with them quite aggressively.

And the arguments you use in those situations are personally very amusing to me.

As far as I remember, it’s usually something like:

• I test a lot and know everything better than anyone else in the game;
• I communicate with the best top players in the world (to be honest, only NA), and I’m the hidden mastermind behind every top team;
• and so on.

The irony is that in these arguments you constantly seem to want to prove that you’re actually a really good theorycrafter. Most likely, you lack recognition and aren’t confident in yourself, and that’s why you try every time to prove to everyone in the chat that you’re right.

At the same time, in your attempts to prove this, you use arguments about being the “grey cardinal” behind all the teams, that everyone comes to you for advice and learns from you. And all of this happens in parallel with you trying to prove something to someone just to get a tiny bit of recognition that you’re actually better than someone else in the chat at theorycrafting.

[twilit thistle]

The fact that the filter didnt eat that. Well done.

Remember to copy it before you send it.

[tight talon]

Fyi, Taniks always gives untested feelscrafting opinion before. Even i ask em if certain things could work or nah. Not even once Taniks did whatever you yapped ngl

[indigo solar]

I mean I only bring up other players when people pull out the "you only play practice range, you know nothing about actual play" line, and almost always even if I disagree with someone, I'll still go test it anyways. I'm not infallible, I've admitted it many times, but when people are hostile to me I'm hostile back. I don't care about recognition, I only "pull rank" when someone thinks I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I've literally had to tell people to stop glazing me so hard lmao

[smoky oxide]

I’ll always glaze taniks

[twilit thistle]

Well you are litterally the best person in the community and Idk what we would do without you. ngl im blanking on how to glaze harder

[indigo solar]

Tbh it's usually just like 2-3 people a month I get into actual arguments with, usually EU players fsr, everyone else I'm quite chill

[tight talon]

+1

[indigo solar]

Agreed, I'm on mobile so idk how long it actually is but there's also like an 11 line limit too, surprised they didn't break that

[tight talon]

its only time till Tanik's paypal leaks and then we did pay word for word in $ for whatever taniks says

[twilit thistle]

eeh all u have to do is talk about gifting and taniks starts to sweat. (bc it would compromise the integrity of the f2p acc)

[indigo solar]

Unironically part of why I don't have PayPal is bc my SO keeps trying to pay for stuff

[random steeple]

I just can’t take this seriously — every time I remember the memes about the “rank and results” of the people you coached in a mobile gacha game, it makes me burst out laughing. I mean, maybe that’s not even a bad thing, but the situation itself is absurd.

I mean that does't mean something bad, that's just really feels absurd personaly for me

[indigo solar]

Only when they say this stuff doesn't get used
Also not sure where the "coaching" thing comes from, I give them data and exploits/mechanics, they do the rest

[random steeple]

That's how it feels for me then you speak about it, i mean maybe i miss understood, but i think i'm not only one who get same vibes

[tight talon]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-michael-office-office-the-office-michael-dissapointed-gif-10330114095315693821

[prisma nest]

lol michael

[tame ravine]

379,5k in Calamity Ops 🙁 Omg
Any Helhest that could help me reach Master? 😄 (EU)

[prisma nest]

this seems like an LFG post

[tame ravine]

Rage and LFG basically hahaha

[indigo solar]

Yeah no majority of the time I don't even like bringing up what top players do, bc what's best for the top player isn't necessarily what's best for the average player, and you can't really use group activities to effectively prove what works best bc it depends on a lot more than just artifact loadout

[prisma nest]

i unfortunately do not have helhest

[true mauve]

Steve the Resolute is Kabrs twin. He sent Kabr cookies and no milk, accidentally killing him. Steve takes up Kabrs name and shield much like Darius did Rossi

[prisma nest]

after Kabr was erased from the timeline he was quickly replaced with a SPY

[slow sigil]

@knotty oak Supervisor macht Urlaub? oder hat der Schneefrei 🙂

[true mauve]

Mach speed

[lilac seal]

Prove yourself to me...

[lilac seal]

TAN-2 Coming thru

[oblique lark]

Everytime i search for change my showcase i dont find it lmao

[true mauve]

This is hype

Idk what it is but its free so hype

[slow sigil]

its a Purely PVP weapon...

[true mauve]

Oh even better I love PvP

[tight torrent]

Another scout rifle to suck resources.

[slow sigil]

then youre in for Something good xD It used to Dominate PVP 2-3 years ago in Destiny 2

[faint viper]

Anyone wanna vc?

[true mauve]

I bet it Blinds and helps Kabrs Relic Trait 2 that when a blind reaches 2sec duration he does some crazy extra dmg

[karmic chasm]

Jade rabbit is cool, but it would be even cooler if Ning got a moonfang outfit

[true mauve]

Brooo maybe Jade Rabbit is what finally puts Steve > HH

Symmetry was the bait along the way

[slow sigil]

For Quick Headshot it refill the Magazin and Gives Bonus dmg for the next Bodyshot

[karmic chasm]

Yea I knew this but couldn’t argue with anyone bc I didn’t max it

[faint viper]

Glitch with symmetry to make it to do 300k per shot rn

Ts broken

[karmic chasm]

Also Ning would rock this. I used to run it for the longest time, just diff shaders

[true mauve]

He would fr

[faint viper]

NA - crota raid anyone?

[errant narwhal]

Getting to 15 solo was not hard at all, I’m surprised

[true mauve]

He does need some drip

[karmic chasm]

Definitely

[errant narwhal]

we need mix and match armor

I’m just waiting to die on bulwark now

[karmic chasm]

Artifacts were the solution to armor and it sucks lmao

[simple plank]

hello skin department

1 skin please

[errant narwhal]

damn

[wooden crane]

What towers are good for todays solo on bulwark ops?

[errant narwhal]

I used clay anesthesia and hoof

[wooden crane]

Only those 3?

[ember elk]

More Towers > Upgraded Towers? Other way? Doesn't matter?

[errant narwhal]

yeah clay for money anesthesia for damage and hoof for coverage

[tulip coral]

Sorry for the inconvenience, there is an issue with Bullwark: enemy health often does not decrease correctly, HP sometimes skip, and there is latency every time enemies spawn.
Additionally, the buff purchase pop-up appears, but enemies do not stop, causing problems for players.
Could you please spread the word? Thank you.

[vast arch]

please use #💁│ingame-tech-support

[short locust]

That helm was a personal favorite of mine 🔥

[karmic chasm]

Gundam vibes

[errant narwhal]

just got a 36 lol

wow co op bulwark is rough

[indigo solar]

Muqam my beloved

[errant narwhal]

can can is og tho

[ember elk]

More Towers > Upgraded Towers?

Specifically while playing the mode

[indigo solar]

Depends

Generally yes, except for vs bosses

A level 2 tower will deal more damage than 2 level 1 towers

Best strat is to just fill the map with level 1 muqams, then replace them with level 3 anesthesias whenever you get 8k polymer

[twilit thistle]

🥺 And what if i dont understand anything you mean, Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN]?

[spare meteor]

🤔

If only there was a tracking grenade launcher that would be perfect for destiny rising 👀

[ember elk]

👍

[abstract cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-fellow-dear-earthlings-sundar-pichai-youtube-dear-earth-hello-fellow-humans-gif-23560679

[twilit thistle]

fang 3.0 when

[indigo solar]

If you're down to run it rn you can stream and I can tell you what to do

Or I could stream and you could watch

[frozen heron]

do we know of any leaks regarding the next banner?

[abstract cedar]

when discord decides to log me out and then not give me access to my account again. and then still charge me for nitro because they refuse to delete my old account

[twilit thistle]

Ur poor phone would melt. Its not that big of a deal. Alot of it is bc I am doing as i always do, and im not running the meta 😇

[indigo solar]

My phone is decent, it can handle it

[abstract cedar]

i wouldn’t recommend believing leaks to be honest. just wait until netease releases the content

[twilit thistle]

i really liked one tower, i think it has swift in the name 😭 thats what i dont like, i cant make my own strategy. I get wiped on round 8 at best and that was using hoof as a crutch

[abstract cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/severance-harmony-cobel-mark-scout-gif-9100693115603742291

interesting interesting

[true mauve]

These stats for Jaren?

[errant narwhal]

solar instead of super but a good start

[vast arch]

Solar is a must

[true mauve]

This on Ning then?

[lofty gale]

I am not a expert of Ning but sounds like good stats

[true mauve]

Im gonna crashout just used a engram and got this

[indigo solar]

@twilit thistle

Didn't take ss of round 6 bc was busy collecting polymer but by round 6 you need 2 anesthesia in back

[errant narwhal]

Perfect for arc jaren

[indigo solar]

Also you need anesthesia enhance by third upgrade if you want no leaks, or 4th upgrade if you only care about not losing

After those three upgrades, prioritise solar and direct hit, then void and blast

[bold thunder]

I always roll for beam on 3rd upgrade basically no matter how many rolls it takes

It trivialize the midgame so much you can transition out of the eco towers and go afk early

[twilit thistle]

🥺 no swift?

[lofty gale]

Best artifacts for Tan-2?

[abstract cedar]

but i want void tho

[indigo solar]

No need

[karmic chasm]

Helhest

[neat valley]

Yo wassup guys

[west violet]

Ngl it’s only good below lvl 10-12 after that it’s a waste

[indigo solar]

Rounds 10-12? Or bulwark level 10-12? Bc it's one of the greatest towers for early game, lets you develop everything much faster. Point was just the 36 from a single chest tho

But yes in single player I fully replace them by round 8

[cobalt urchin]

Getting stuck in the lobby during the match 🫃

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-return-of-the-king-lord-of-the-rings-ro-tk-title-card-gif-22191928

[cobalt urchin]

Ffffff

[karmic chasm]

They didn’t let Kabr in because he was just too resolute

[soft bobcat]

Nice finally joinined the dark side and going for t4? ;D

[indigo solar]

I still don't have enough, but I've been at t3 for a while

Upgraded before I realised I shouldn't have

[soft bobcat]

Yeah it's annoying having to pay attention instead of just spamming send all that's why I gave up on keeping it t2 lol

[west violet]

Yeah for BW lvl 10-12 after that you don’t need it anymore.

[soft bobcat]

Good thing we can dismantle and replace them ;D

[indigo solar]

I mean it's easily the best early game tower even if you're at max bulwark level

But yes then you replace it

There are only three towers worth using until you get t4 Gungnir

[worn trench]

I started a new account, is this a good starting roster?

I like Tan-2, he’s very cool but I’m not sure if this is, well, yknow, actually good.

[urban quail]

How good is Jade Rabbit?

[worn trench]

(Seems like rising is a F2P friendly game but still)

[twilit thistle]

🥺 but-but i liked it

[urban quail]

For starters, only good one is Umeko and Tan-2, possibly Rossi but Bows suck

[karmic chasm]

Yes bc you have Rossi

[urban quail]

Rossi sucks

[karmic chasm]

Bows do not suck bro, for the entheenth time

Why is Taniks offline every time someone says stupid stuff like this

[soft bobcat]

Still got 2 weeks to get guaranteed chad Kabr he's basically a swiss army knife

[urban quail]

I wait 2 seconds for a draw and other people clear the entire room before I shoot one arrow

[indigo solar]

Tan is fun but generally Ning is better, but Wolf is good enough, it's honestly not really worth rerolling accounts

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[indigo solar]

Why are you waiting two seconds to draw my guy

[lime nova]

I am like 80% confident the next character will be a fusion rifle user

Because-

• Fusions have only 1 character still
• The black armory weapon pool has a fusion rifle they could add in the 2nd half of the season
• They gave Fusion Rifles a perk in game that cannot be rolled on the existing fusion
  🤓

[errant narwhal]

Why start over?

[errant narwhal]

Fusion or sidearms with rocket or sniper maybe

[urban quail]

I’m exaggerating, it takes a long time to draw. The perks sucks and there are no other option other than a slow primary bow

[errant narwhal]

AR is plausible too

[karmic chasm]

We could use a better mythic option, but they really aren’t as bad as everyone thinks. Scouts are a million times better tho

[lime nova]

what I'm unsure on is the odds of another purple rarity character this update

[stark forge]

fusion rocket sounds like a terrible loadout

[errant narwhal]

Yes but its probably what theyd do lol

[urban quail]

Yea cuz I don’t gotta wait for my bullet to fire, I just click and shoot, I don’t hold and shoot

[errant narwhal]

Sidearm rocket sounds decent

[lime nova]

whar the hell am I looking at

[errant narwhal]

Maru used fusions in the beta?

[indigo solar]

Fusion rocket character from an ad (it's using Maru's model fsr)

[indigo solar]

No, nor did she use rockets

[errant narwhal]

weird

[lime nova]

tbh I dont think that's the character, because the character is supposed to be void

[west violet]

What’s your pick? Imo I would say Hoof, Ana and Acute. What you think about that?

[errant narwhal]

oh its an arc character

[urban quail]

It’s a strand character

[lime nova]

yeah that video is an arc character but the next 5 star is definitely void

a new 4 star could be arc though although solar makes more sense

[errant narwhal]

the next character isn’t confirmed to be void just bc of the leaks

[lime nova]

not talking about leaks, 2nd half of the season is Arc/Void -

Kabr is our Arc

[indigo solar]

Hoof/Ana/Muqam is all you need for braindead play in both solo and coop round 15, and you can't hit 99 rn with anything besides t4 Gungnir so no real point in other combos

[karmic chasm]

True but I still soloed a gm and killed every single impact shinka with a bow.

[lime nova]

the seasonal elements change according to recent character banners

[indigo solar]

Nearly everything in the vid is placeholder

That said, my guess is mythic ikora

[urban quail]

That’s great bro. Bows still suck dog water

[lime nova]

Rossi is good because he gets to use the exotic crossbow
wish the mythic bow didnt feel like dookie

[errant narwhal]

Yeah thats what I’ve been assuming too

[lime nova]

inb4 Le Monarque

[karmic chasm]

No dude, they only suck in the hands of people who don’t use them right 😭
They reason they are bad on Helhest is due to RC literally deleting everything it points at, and also getting free heavy ammo

[hidden carbon]

They’ll release a fusion rifle character with telesto

[lime nova]

tbh I want a new exotic, love the D2 exotics and how much better they get made. But I also love the new exotics

[modest plume]

Someone say suck?

[errant narwhal]

Didnt you get telesto from ikora

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-cat-rigby-gato-coqueto-rico-gif-4061476440942373994

[lime nova]

Nah telesto was rando drop

[stark forge]

ppl want bows to clear room with 1 shot

[indigo solar]

She's mentioned in a few seasonal triumphs, the leaked nectar character could easily be her, and the seasonal pact's second upgrade is for inflicting CC effects

[karmic chasm]

Oh how they massacred Trinity

[lime nova]

What I'm curious about is if we get another 4 star next banner

[urban quail]

I got great aim, I know how to use bows. Don’t gaslight yourself anymore, you just proved my point. Helhest or not, before I even start drawing my bow people already cleared the entire room. Solo GM Bow user would be humiliation, congrats, bows still suck

[urban quail]

And I’m a fan of bows, this one just sucks

[hidden carbon]

Helhest doesn’t use a bow. Helhest’s primary is RC.

[indigo solar]

So true

[stark forge]

only t0 hh uses bow

[errant narwhal]

Make the new Ikora another four star lmao

[urban quail]

What’s RC, still tryna keep up with DR lingo

[karmic chasm]

Exactly. He’s just hating for no reason bruh

[lime nova]

Queenbreaker

[hidden carbon]

Royal contravene aka queenbreaker

[karmic chasm]

Well that is objectively true compared to D2 options. But we will get better ones.

[lime nova]

RC/Queenbreaker refuses to drop for me

[west violet]

But I can go to lvl 45-50 without t4 Gungnir. Imo it’s a good play with my layout

[errant narwhal]

every bow in the game sucks

[hidden carbon]

We only have one mythic bow in the game

[urban quail]

🤣🤣🤣 I thought I was insane!

[lime nova]

Tbh D2s bows also sucked for ages and only got "better" because they made the exotics overtuned as hell

[hidden carbon]

The sample size is too small

[karmic chasm]

Idk that one stasis bow is pretty good

[errant narwhal]

That may be true but with how they’re balancing them a new mythic bow isn’t gonna be any different

[hidden carbon]

True

[lime nova]

It also released like 3 years after bows got added

They sucked for that long

[short locust]

Reload time > Draw speed iykyk

[worn trench]

is that enough time really? and do i need him any higher than base unlock?

ALSO doesnt he join main banner afterwards just to be sure??

[urban quail]

Why use Rossi’s Bow when I can use an automatic crossbow? Literally useless primary option, she should’ve been handcannon or fusion rifle

[karmic chasm]

My bow feels so fast with the mod I have. Problem is, I forgot and went into fair play with it

[neat valley]

i wish bows had ability to shoot like 3 at a time

[karmic chasm]

I will say I would have preferred a hand cannon on him too

[neat valley]

that would be sick

[errant narwhal]

Make it so only heavy weapons are limited and let me use whatever primary on any character

[short locust]

Can't expect much out of 4*

[karmic chasm]

Wait I like this

[stark forge]

copy yuri perks to bow wont be hard

[lime nova]

Tbh I think the problem with Rossi is the mythic options for both weapons feel bad.

If the bow could roll a volt shot like perk

Or if it had something like Hush's perk it'd be better

Still love the character

[errant narwhal]

Only bad thing is that scouts are so much better that everyone would use them unless shinkas need blast or rapid

[indigo solar]

Ah yes smg on Jaren giving me welling light every 2 seconds

[worn trench]

also i havent been playing for long so may i ask is it remotely possibke to get season animated emblems f2p/

[errant narwhal]

balanced I swear

[short locust]

Bow with the ricochet perk

[errant narwhal]

I mean stag shots on an smg would be kinda bad but on T6 it’d be insane anyway

[karmic chasm]

Oh yea I’d put symmetry on Rossi without a second thought lmaooo

[indigo solar]

The ones from getting all ornaments? Yes, but you need a decent amount of luck. Also don't open any engrams until act 2 when the other ornaments become obtainable

[errant narwhal]

Give me sweet business on Jaren

[karmic chasm]

Very unlikely but possible

[short locust]

This over Huckleberry is a damn crime

[errant narwhal]

I’ll make it work

[bitter estuary]

balls

[stark forge]

might as well give jaren gallows

[errant narwhal]

Sweet Business looks cooler

[indigo solar]

Who cares about smg you'd have unlimited welling light for shotgun

[bitter estuary]

jaren trinity ghoul

[lime nova]

I wonder wtf Jade Rabbit is gonna do because Symmetry and Polaris both are strong scouts

And the mythic scout options aren't slouches

[errant narwhal]

true

[indigo solar]

Smg is just to give shotgun double damage

[short locust]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-really-charlamagne-tha-god-gif-25196238

[errant narwhal]

unlimited ammo sweet business was so silly on d2

[indigo solar]

Was bad in tests, I'm not expecting a significant improvement

[lime nova]

What does it even do

[errant narwhal]

Maybe limiting the primary to that archetype of weapon, i feel like thatd just devolve into only seeing smgs and scouts still tho

[twilit thistle]

@vast arch you never replied 🤔

[lime nova]

Tbh the problem isn't just weapons it's kits

Umeko still stacked as hell

[short locust]

D2 Jade was just a PvP scout with manhole cover sized crit spots. It's perk has never done anything really

[lime nova]

I know that

I wanna know wtf it's gonna do in D Rising

Would've never believed that Last Word was gonna be a PvE weapon

[errant narwhal]

I wonder if its leaked already

[karmic chasm]

Disconnect opponents from the match

[upbeat forge]

What is?

[lime nova]

I hadn't seen any and that's odd because last word got leaked like a month in advance

[worn trench]

i assume that is not a possibility with risings sweet biz?

[short locust]

I will admit most of the exotics as of late have been super boring. TLW gets a pass because it fits Jaren and has a fun loop

[lime nova]

That's certainly subjective

I love symmetry

[short locust]

Sym had always been bad, and although it's not pathetic here at least, it's still meh imo

[lime nova]

What-

[indigo solar]

In alpha:
Intrinsic was "Chain precision shots to gain bonus damage on your next body shot and return ammo to the magazine"
Perk was Zen Moment (dealing damage increases stability)
Catalyst was "Stability +27"

For full release we know cata3 is "Landing consecutive precision hits temporarily increases this weapon's rate of fire to 180"

[lime nova]

Symmetry demolishes

[short locust]

Unless Jade gets a super creative perk it'll probably also be meh

[lime nova]

Zen moment feels redundant in this game

[errant narwhal]

I mean perks specifically, theres a ton of weapons leaked

[indigo solar]

Presumably cata1 will be chaining precision shots grants increased body damage, cata2 increases the damage boost, cata3 grants the rof boost

[short locust]

Boooooring

[errant narwhal]

Wonder if we’re getting trace rifles soon since those leaked too

[frigid totem]

so im not sure how to do my high end stuff like calamity and grandmasters because i can't find any matches
do you have to play this game with a discord/clan in order to do that stuff?

[indigo solar]

When did those leak? They used to be in the game but not anymore outside of a few things technically using them under the hood

[bitter estuary]

another day another boring crota's end grind until i get an exotic

i just dismantled 1 today bc it had 1:1 stat to a crappy mod with crappy substat that i had

[errant narwhal]

When the guy who posted about the bug character posted the exotic leaks

[worn trench]

is it good on Tan-2 if i get it?

[indigo solar]

Pretty much yes for calamity, but gms should be doable with matchmaking, give it like 10 minutes before quitting queue or make a fireteam finder

[worn trench]

or that Ning just stomps again

[prisma nest]

proto headseeker

[errant narwhal]

Just this one

[lime nova]

It's good but P-Lance definitely is more catered to Tan

[stark forge]

someone called me cheat for running fast in abyss

[prisma nest]

jade used to be a scout called fate of all fools 🧛🏻‍♂️

[errant narwhal]

is abyss able to be soloed

[lime nova]

Can't ning solo regular abyss?

[short locust]

Shout out Boolean Gemini /347 Vestían Dynasty iykyk

[worn trench]

whos it better on?

[lime nova]

Yesnt

Fate of All Fools was an exotic that was made for 1 specific person because they were sick

Jade got made for Year 2 PS exclusive and just inherited the perk

[prisma nest]

best sounding scout

[cursive depot]

unless you can enlight by yourself somehow for the end

[errant narwhal]

is this multi tool

[lime nova]

Kabr obv
And while it's good on Umeko... you don't use exotic primaries on Umeko

[prisma nest]

ik the history but fate of all fools came first ofc

[errant narwhal]

oh yeah forgot about that

[worn trench]

dont go in the vault.... unless you have this

[short locust]

Nah that's a rare model

[prisma nest]

its fang of ir yut base model

[errant narwhal]

tuff

[prisma nest]

not mida

[indigo solar]

Imgur is apparently down rn

[errant narwhal]

I’m on it rn

[prisma nest]

satierenne rapier model from d1

however u spell that

[indigo solar]

Giving me a 403

[indigo solar]

I mean "sick" is one way to describe it but wasn't it a terminal issue? Like I want to say it was cerebral palsy

[errant narwhal]

weird

[short locust]

Lord of Wolves and Wardcliff would be super fun. Telesto too

[lime nova]

I said sick because I forgot exactly what they had and didn't wanna throw a shot in the dark

But yes it was bad

[errant narwhal]

I’m waitin on sunshot, itll be so fun on jaren

[indigo solar]

Can confirm LoW was fun

[prisma nest]

hawkmoon

[indigo solar]

But slightly broken

Like in a "not working properly" way, not an overpowered way

[errant narwhal]

hawkmoons not in the files yet

[karmic chasm]

Wardcliff my goat

[prisma nest]

just wait brah

[errant narwhal]

leak man hasnt posted since the bug character, thats a bit sad

[short locust]

I was never a sunshot guy. By the time it was good, I could ability spam the room instantly

[prisma nest]

hawkmoon is part of destiny identity

i guarantee itll be in rising

[short locust]

Ikora will have her moment after all 💀

[errant narwhal]

Xbox didn’t get it for like a year or two lol

[lime nova]

Xbox didn't yet hawkmoon for 1 year

[karmic chasm]

When will Rossi have his moment 😔

[short locust]

Wish ender

[errant narwhal]

give me it

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-sly-rambo-bow-and-arrow-aim-gif-19224280

[cursive depot]

when ghally drops

[lime nova]

Rossi does have his moments.

Bows suck but he still gets carried by the fact the Exotic Crossbow is stupid as hell

[short locust]

Ugh I can't stand that damn rocket anymore

[indigo solar]

You'll get SUROS and you'll like it

[prisma nest]

d2 doesnt even have those auto rifle heavy crossbows

[worn trench]

i still did ask is Kabr EX good with just unlock or he relies on some dupes of him bein pulled?

[indigo solar]

T2 is great but he's still just fine at T0

[short locust]

Make Leviathan's breath a Crossbow

[karmic chasm]

I must be the only person in the entire universe that actually likes using bows

[karmic chasm]

Yoooo

[errant narwhal]

you’re not wrong

[worn trench]

iirc thats not the exotic Suros right?

[errant narwhal]

it is

[lime nova]

You confuse liking and thinking they're bad

I like using bows. I'm smart enough to acknowledge they're among the worst primaries in the game

[short locust]

I liked bows, but don't own any characters that use em

[worn trench]

Im a destiny OG Suros Regime was awesome back then

[indigo solar]

It is

[karmic chasm]

Dog they are top three DPS and I won’t keep debating this

[lime nova]

under what very specific circumstances lol

[short locust]

Idk being able to do 80% the damage of a full draw with your only limit being reload is strong imo

[karmic chasm]

Does it matter? No, but it’s indisputable

[prisma nest]

do yall use touchscreen layout and just adjust it for controller 🤔

[lime nova]

yes it does matter

it absolutely matters

[indigo solar]

Under circumstances where you aren't using heavy

If you're using heavy obviously it's not great

But they have insanely good dps compared to other primaries

[signal spade]

bows are def better feeling than handcannons and autos, the pulses and scouts feel better than all 3 though 🙁

[indigo solar]

Besides scouts

And lgls vs groups

[short locust]

Helhest really gaslit ppl into thinking bows sucked because she's got infinite LFR with all these charge speed buffs and bonus AA

Ofc they feel bad in comparison

[karmic chasm]

This, a million times this

[errant narwhal]

i disagree immensely

[indigo solar]

I want to like pulses but they hit like wet noodles

[lime nova]

no it's more like I dont need a primary to do DPS, I need it to not suck at ad clear and well
Bows suck at ad clear

[karmic chasm]

She has a freaking auto LFR with ammo generation in her kit. Like what

[indigo solar]

Bows are good at ad clear in higher difficulty content

[prisma nest]

bows over hand cannons is crazy af bro

[errant narwhal]

bows feel the worst compared to every weapon

[signal spade]

yea the pulses feel weaker than the scouts for sure, but holy god do the ARs and handcannons feel like hot garbage

[indigo solar]

In content where smgs three tap enemies they're not great bc they're limited by slow fire rate

[signal spade]

at least the bows chunk the hp bar and take like 0 time to redraw

[lime nova]

nah gotta give that to Fusion rifles which might be a cop out, but they feel like noodles

[short locust]

If you full draw bows, just know that we are judging you

[indigo solar]

But in content where bows are still one tapping red bars when it takes 15 shots from an smg, they feel much better

[prisma nest]

just say u dont like hand cannons fr

[errant narwhal]

a full charged bow headshot should one shot a red name dreg

[prisma nest]

but to say theyre bad is ridiculous

[signal spade]

none of the non exotic handcannons feel anywhere near as good as in any other destiny game

[errant narwhal]

Fusions are peak bc only Xuan Wei uses them, I refuse to elaborate

[signal spade]

bows feel better in rising than in d2

[indigo solar]

It does, and you only need to half draw for full damage anyways, and spam gives you like 75% damage

[karmic chasm]

If you full draw bows, then stop talking about bows am I right 😭

[errant narwhal]

Not in CalOps

[karmic chasm]

OK now hold up Buster, I think you lost even me

[errant narwhal]

does about 90% their health

[lime nova]

we need a better character for fusions

[signal spade]

you cant machine gun your bow in d2

[errant narwhal]

Xuan Wei 2

[indigo solar]

With what roll/mods/artifacts

[signal spade]

and have it do literally any damage anyway

[twilit thistle]

[indigo solar]

What

[karmic chasm]

They have patched that out

[indigo solar]

How are you still losing

Where are they leaking

[worn trench]

theres still lots of time to get the rewards for Crotas end right?

[errant narwhal]

HH bis artis idr the roll but those really shouldn’t determine if I’m one shotting the weakest enemy in the game outside thralls and exploder shanks

[signal spade]

in d2?

[stark forge]

wave 8 is good

[worn trench]

i hope i can get there from fresh

[short locust]

Once we get another bow character with a high uptime weapon mastery, and maybe better perks people will change their tune

[karmic chasm]

No, in rising

[signal spade]

you dont need to draw like at all in rising to do damage though

[errant narwhal]

let me go check my bow

[karmic chasm]

Oh I thought you meant the original Rising reload cancel that essentially spammed hip fire

[stark forge]

if u spam bow fast it shoots double arrow without redraw

[indigo solar]

Weapon/Arc with Axion and Bellicose Planetesimal should absolutely be one tapping, esp with emboldening support/ensured yields and exotic mods

[signal spade]

well this thing i legit can mash mouse 1 and do dam

[short locust]

Ye it's like D2 Wish ender hitting like a truck even on a limp loose

[modern seal]

Anybody know the best turret setup for solo tower defense this week?

[signal spade]

yea wishender trucks in d2 but i meant non exotics anyway, like last word feels better than every other handcannon in this game by a mile and even the d2 version of last word but

[errant narwhal]

I probably could get a bae combatant mod on the ammo to help ig

[karmic chasm]

Crimson feels good, idk if it is

[prisma nest]

d2 last word hits harder on crits imo

[signal spade]

last word on mnk in d2 = 💩

[indigo solar]

Yeah base mod and emboldening support instead of annihilation, you'll be golden

[worn trench]

honestly im excited for whenever Riven comes around to rising. Last Wish deserves better and i hope they up her stakes even more than D2 did with the Queenswalk

[prisma nest]

but rising last word has way way high aim assist

[signal spade]

but last word on controller is like

last word on controller is helhest volley buff

[errant narwhal]

gonna try this instead of the 15% powerful

[indigo solar]

Should feel much better, do you have an emboldening support roll?

Since you really shouldn't be using it while you have QB ammo

Even with full ammo tho it's still 20% vs annihilation's 25%

[modern pasture]

Who in here intrested in iron bar scrims vs good players?

[frozen heron]

you should try archers tempo, its makes the bow usable imo

[indigo solar]

Nooooooo

[short locust]

NO

Stop full drawing your bows PLEASE

[errant narwhal]

I have one with black body, ill go see if i can get one with ensured

[indigo solar]

Archer's tempo is dogwater, 40% faster draw time when draw time is either 1/3 of your wait with 2/3 reload or you're not drawing at all

That's a 13% improvement

[prisma nest]

crit monster last word will always be a crit monster

[errant narwhal]

So this is ideal?

[indigo solar]

Yeah

[errant narwhal]

Wish we could upgrade it

Bc I try to save some QB ammo after the powerful enemies are dead

[lime nova]

tbh I think Rossi cares more about how good the bow is than Helhest given she can just 3D print hammo

still wish Spiteful Fang got ported

[indigo solar]

I mean as long as you have <67% QB ammo it'll do more than annihilation

[lime nova]

coping for 2nd half of the season

[errant narwhal]

I’m out of ammo often when I’m the only t6 hh

especially this calops

[indigo solar]

Also what are your slot 1/2 mod rolls

[errant narwhal]

not ideal but only ones i have

[indigo solar]

Slot 1 ideally you want fallen or cabal, matching the activity and slot 2 you want reload speed + draw time %

[errant narwhal]

Well I can swap the second one since its not activating anyway

Would this be better

[bitter estuary]

my ghost bald wtf

[errant narwhal]

Mag cap should give me a quarter arrow to shoot smh

[indigo solar]

Not entirely sure how or if rof affects bows

[bitter estuary]

no bc what

[indigo solar]

Sadly bows are hard locked at 1 ammo, even if you get upgrades in chaos it stays at 1

[errant narwhal]

makes sense animation wise

[indigo solar]

Normally guns round up if it grants >0.5 shots

[short locust]

Gib Hella reload speed

Impulse induction when

[astral bear]

Wait there were leaks ?

[errant narwhal]

not recently just the same leaks weve had since december

[twilit thistle]

[true mauve]

What Kabr skin matches this?

[hard spindle]

Hey y’all I haven’t play Rising in a bit, could someone catch me up on the meta?

[true mauve]

Helhest T6

[bitter estuary]

helhest and jaren (for calops ning fei too)

(anyone here dont attack me personally pls)

[karmic chasm]

None. Use the one from Dawning instead, it looks great on his alt color legendary

[bitter estuary]

this!!!!

loved the shader so much i applied it to all the guns

[true mauve]

EoL looks good wit dawning

[bitter estuary]

true

[true mauve]

Jade Rabbit soon

[bitter estuary]

i might not build symmetry for now

i wanna save up for it

[errant narwhal]

I hate that we can’t get more of these

[hard spindle]

Ok let me look up those two characters

[bitter estuary]

they're S1 act 2 and S2 act 2 characters respectively

[hard spindle]

Ok

[bitter estuary]

they will get rerunned soon

[errant narwhal]

“soon”

[hard spindle]

I looked em both up and go aesthetics I’m going with the Jaren cause cowboy

[errant narwhal]

jaren aint gonna be back till the summer

[twilit thistle]

😡 Oh so now im not even allowed to personally attack you for being right? (ngl i blanked on what to say)

[true mauve]

Best Rapid Fire - Ning
Best Piercing - Helhest
Best Spread - Maru/Ikora
Best Impact - Jaren

They are the best from all 3 elements also
HH Maru Jaren unobtainable

[bitter estuary]

soon and its probably gonna release after ananta ever releases (it's tba now idk)

[hard spindle]

Ah poo

[bitter estuary]

my balls

[short locust]

[errant narwhal]

Ning is your best bet rn

Kabr is pretty solid too tho

[hard spindle]

Good thing I already have him

[bitter estuary]

depends on netease ngl

atleast in other gachas like punishing: gray raven you have anniversary banners where you have a selector every year so you can target pull whatever char you need

[errant narwhal]

Thatd be nice, or a rerun banner with all the LEs they’ve released excluding estela and gwynn

[prisma nest]

jaren more like goaten

🧛🏻‍♂️🤌🏻

[short locust]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-dmc-devil-may-cry-pgr-pgr-dmc-gif-2120938108076526055

[hard spindle]

What are good weapons for Ning?

[short locust]

Mahamayuri

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-pgr-vergil-vergil-dmc5-vergil-sparda-forgetting-and-confusion-gif-8990000897278442016

[hard spindle]

What that?

[short locust]

Exotic crossbow from the first encounter of the first raid

[hard spindle]

Ok

Guess I have to watch a guide and get a team

[short locust]

Matchmaking is easier than you'd expect

[hard spindle]

Really?

[modern seal]

What's the best solo bulwark ops tower set up this week? Can't get past wave 9

[tropic swift]

Not long till we get Jade Rabbit 🫡

[bitter estuary]

when will they add a 67 decal 😔

[indigo solar]

Round 1: level 1 Muqam in all 8 middle towers
Round 2: Stone hoof in a middle central corner
Round 3: level 1 Muqam in all remaining slots
Round 6: two level 3 Anesthesias in back
Round 7+: replace Muqam with level 3 Anesthesia whenever you get 8k polymer, starting from back

[errant narwhal]

Yeah the first encounter is just kill the enemies on each side, cap the plates to make the bridge then 1-2 people will cross with the access code to grab the scorch and shoot a thing on the wall, repeat 3 times and you’re done

[river path]

Do i have to use in game help, for a question/ concern? It's about Acclaim, but when i take screenshots on my phone, 60% of the time it reloads the game and closes me out of menus

[karmic chasm]

Essentially Ning’s only weapon

[full flower]

What do I do? Because every time I enter the game, my screen flashes all white. Help!

[indigo solar]

What's your question?

[indigo solar]

Check your phone storage

[bold thunder]

@indigo solar I recorded one of my farm runs in case any part/all of it would be useful in teaching people bulwark (I think our builds are mostly the same bar a few minor differences like tower placement)
#videos-and-streams message

[indigo solar]

This is great, thanks

Tho I do prefer the pure hoof/ana/Muqam instead of acute field bc it works for any modifier

Acute at the start only works for invis

[karmic chasm]

Can we get this as a Rossi skin?

[river path]

Just curious on what i should do.... I'm acclaim 9, the game is telling me to use my acclaim point so I can earn more xp, but the next time I can use one is either rank 10 or rank 19. But I can't hit rank 10 until I use a point

[indigo solar]

I think you're misunderstanding what they're saying, could you dm me a screenshot?

[river path]

Yeah I'll hop on and look

[simple plank]

one cultural impact please

[tropic swift]

I have mine installed to sd card and I cant update from Google play store for some reason.

[bold thunder]

I typically sub in a blue counter to whatever the daily modifier is so that on wave 2 I don't have to spend 5k on a hoof (also hoof tends to kill a lot of the early game ads in my experience)

But I don't use it for anything other than wave 2, so you can definitely just forget it entirely and use a hoof for 2

[gritty rune]

So what does jade rabbit do?

[tropic swift]

I havent even tried Bulwark MP since the nerfed stuff. I'm gonna cry right?

[tropic swift]

Its shoot bullets

[gritty rune]

Can I shoot myself with it?

[bold thunder]

If you're expecting to be able to spam hoof and get a free wave 99, then yes lol

[bold thunder]

Wave 15-20 takes a little more effort than hoof spam but it's not too bad

wave 20 is much harder than it used to be

[indigo solar]

Don't expect to get higher than wave 8 without going in with a premade or coaching your teammates

[tropic swift]

Daaaaaaamn

[indigo solar]

I feel like this is also in large part due to the map change

[bold thunder]

Aren't there multiple mp maps that rotate?

[indigo solar]

Yeah but the previous one where the tracks went through two players' zones was significantly easier

About 1.5x the boss track length

If not more

[bold thunder]

Oh true yeah, I assume(d) that will come back around at some point

[indigo solar]

It will

[bold thunder]

I guess I got lucky and got competent randoms on my weekly this week

[indigo solar]

Nice

My first run this week was someone telling us to use his towers and then he leaked 30

Then I reran and got him again, he used my towers and we won

And then I ran with @pallid flare and we just oobed

Good times

You can get on top of the central tower, but the zones don't actually line up properly, it's not one continuous map

[bold thunder]

I think short of t4 gungir shenanigans, anesthesia/hoof is kind of incomparable to anything else

[indigo solar]

Indeed

Tho a +50% attack speed or two probably helps as well

If it affects anesthesia reload speed that is

[bold thunder]

If you're going >15 maybe, but you don't really need it for the challenge

[bold thunder]

I tried really hard to test this

But it seems like anesthesia gets desynced, possibly due to the firerate buff?

[pallid flare]

You can move between zones without teleporters too!

[modern seal]

you a hero

[indigo solar]

Yep, but if you have slow internet you fall through before their zone loads lmao

[bold thunder]

The damage and animation gets desynced I mean, so it's difficult to impossible to time

[indigo solar]

And on top of that the health bars don't even work properly

[pallid flare]

Yeah that sucks

[soft bobcat]

I've been lucky af there. Only had 1 Matchmade group that failed so far

[twilit thistle]

Nobody: "I beat it without hoof and anest"

[indigo solar]

I'm gonna do that just for you

Give me an hour

[bold thunder]

I mean you can, it's just annoying

[soft bobcat]

Muskrat + Long Nail should get it done

[twilit thistle]

🤔 i wonder what would happen if @shadow ocean ran it, but didnt actually use towers.

[soft bobcat]

• wahtever 3rd you need to cover something else

[indigo solar]

Pain

Pain would happen

You won't get further than 4

[twilit thistle]

How far would zombie get tho.

[soft bobcat]

Yeah Lightbearer damage does literally nothing at a certain point

[indigo solar]

Unless you run superweapon boost and get really lucky with orb drops

Even then I think they'd take too long to throw

[twilit thistle]

I could easily solo rd 4. Round 5 is when i get scared.

[indigo solar]

Shame there are no character abilities that do %

[karmic chasm]

99 in 3 minutes

[bold thunder]

oh now I want to try this

[twilit thistle]

id bet like not 5, but the next wave that has a boss.

I think theres a buff that buffs if the bomb if u use a super? think it buffs it not sure tbh.

itd really be dependant on what you pick. Estella is good at red bars, and hellhest is good at bosses. 🤔

[half sky]

Somehow managed to get wave 19 .
Did they buff enemies health too?

[bitter estuary]

technically you could use others but i think they're better if you use them at 4*

[half sky]

They be taking forever to kill on top of that them little guys be running at 99999mph

[bold thunder]

wave 5 seems pretty hard ngl

[bold thunder]

hard to tell given we don't really have a good comparison prepatch that I know of, but around wave 18-19 the health starts to get really bad yeah

[twilit thistle]

Have you done it, succesfully? I tried just being creative, and it never works. wave 5 😭 it all falls apart on wave 5

[bitter estuary]

i would if it wasn't about the egregious requirements the towers have

wdym 500 copies of the same blue tower to 4* it

[half sky]

👍🏽

[twilit thistle]

yea most ppl just afk farmed it. I have done that, just not to lvl 100. I litterally hop in there place 3 towers and wait for the match to end. Its always lvl 5

[indigo solar]

First attempt, died wave 9
Towers: Muqam, acute field, swift fulminator, dark bolt, vengeance

[lyric belfry]

.

[twilit thistle]

I always tried it with mostly swift and others to slow things down. I always get shredded when the bosses come in tho. I almost always end up doing the most damage. Tbh even when i did what u said i would still do the most damage. 😂

[soft bobcat]

Got lucky with Randos again. Not sure who let 10 through. Might have been me tbh. Didn't have fliers covered well enough

[bold thunder]

I'm doing some more runs, would it be helpful if I rerecord a simplified one without some of my personal tweaks?

[rain condor]

I’m cooking up a volatile build that I’m going to try in Bulwark ops

[soft bobcat]

Nice I was looking into Volatile / Bleed to try out myself. Would love to see it

[rain condor]

I wish there was another tower like Anesthesia for Single target DPS too

I’ve got this going I just need a DPS

[soft bobcat]

Long-Nail is really good it can come close to Anesthesia on bosses

[rain condor]

I’ll give it a try

Needs some more time to cook but not bad I guess

3K triumph score let’s gooo

[soft bobcat]

I see everything at level 1 and that's not good. Because for the same price you can upgrade 1 tower to do the damage of 3 level 1 towers. And when you upgrade a level 2 tower to 3 it does the damage of 9 level 1 towers.

[karmic chasm]

So apparently I had not finished upgrading bros smg 😭

Fixed.

[rain condor]

It was a quick set up but everything at level one was an oversight by me lmao

[hard spindle]

Ok

[hard spindle]

Ok

[karmic chasm]

Like you genuinely only use the smg when you are out of ammo or fighting some teeny red bars

[tepid nacelle]

Anyone else been having an issue with MuMu and network connectivity? ive restarted the emulator 20 times now with different settings everytime and its saying i dont have network when i know im on the wifi and have the network bridging turned on

[hard spindle]

Ok

[indigo solar]

I mean if your personal tweaks work they work, I would just prefer a guide that also works for every modifier rather than a different guide for each day

Damn, best I've gotten rn without anesthesia or hoof is round 10

[twilit thistle]

perhaps it needs tuned

[indigo solar]

I'm thinking maybe bouncing death to remove shield, vengeance for ad clear, nocturne for boss dps

But that's really expensive

And bouncing death isn't consistent

Also may not work on bosses?

Fourth tower obviously acute field, maybe can-can for fifth

[true mauve]

Brooo you to? Lol why we always buildin same dudes 😭

[indigo solar]

Use frat

Faster reload, similar damage

[lofty gale]

Solos me

[thin valve]

Calam resets tomorrow? I forgor

[true mauve]

Yeah

[devout void]

Dont push me from zone 3 lets afk

[true mauve]

I need 1 clear in Master for any score

[devout void]

@dusty spire i see your jolder

We stop the count now everyone promote

[true mauve]

Nobody rando queues though lol waited over 20minutes earlier and no match. Cal Ops is more dead than SG at top ranks

[devout void]

Goodluck 🙏🏻

[devout void]

True

[devout void]

You have more than 600 players I see in NA across all the zone

But yea nobody want matchmake that

[bold thunder]

I need to make a better explanation of the strategy I think, kind of just threw the current one together really quickly as an afterthought

The idea with the extra tech tower is that using only 3 means you have to use a 5000 gold hoof just to stun 4 enemies in wave 2, and then it ends up killing a lot of the other enemies in the process which means a bit less gold income. By using some other cheap tech tower (acute for invis, cancan for fog, something else if warping can spawn in wave 2) you can get the same effect for cheaper and also cause less collateral damage in exchange for a bit more micro. You then just sell the towers after wave 2 and buy hoofs on 4 and forget the other tower exists for the rest of the run.

What the 4th tower is doesn't really matter, you just match it to whatever the daily modifier is during setup and then run the strategy as normal (so it's basically 1 strategy for all days with a minor setup difference day to day)

[true mauve]

Lol I wonder what the ratio of HH to Jarens are in those 600 and how many are neither. Id wager 50 HH, 200 Jarens, and 350 miscellaneous 💀

[indigo solar]

True, you could even just manually deal with the special units on round 2 (also unfortunately warping has no good counter besides hoof, your other options are both slow-moving grenades that miss them half the time)

[bold thunder]

I guess actually you don't want to counter warping round 1 because they'll just tank and feed gold

[indigo solar]

True

[bold thunder]

True, that's actually probably the best solution

[thin valve]

Grinding chaos at 05:28

[karmic chasm]

Because we have immaculate taste, duh

[karmic chasm]

What…

[karmic chasm]

K but consider this: I’m using it purely for power 😭 lol
I almost never switch to it.

[twilit thistle]

Why does xur keep randomly kidnapping me with no warning

[true mauve]

Hahahha no wayyy random matchmake omg! What you think we scored? 🔥

[lofty gale]

I mean solos my characters

[karmic chasm]

Ning be like

[lofty gale]

My best char is Tan-2

65k

[karmic chasm]

Sweet tbh

[true mauve]

Is this how you use RC?

[karmic chasm]

Essentially yea 😭
3 shots clears ads or demolishes bosses. It’s so silly

Someone stop me from buying Ning bronze skin

[true mauve]

I didnt believe it tbh

[karmic chasm]

This is why people dog on bows- Helhest LITERALLY does not need it 95% of the time

Threats even prefers to melee 😭
Which I respect bc that’s all I did in D2

[rain condor]

Let’s gooo I got into promotion zone for Expert 1

[karmic chasm]

Hell yea

[rain condor]

I almost got into masters last season I was in promotion zone for Expert 2

[karmic chasm]

Dude I just pushed into master for the first time with the guys (Corndog and Oryon)
Such a good feeling

You got this fs

[rain condor]

The last cal ops of the season I was in promotion zone, I’m getting into masters this cycle for sure

[split wing]

Anyone else missing hoof? Almost 40 and only one I’m missing 😴

[karmic chasm]

Ok Master 1 enemies got hands

[sinful totem]

Anyone know what jade rabbit is gonna do in rising?

[karmic chasm]

Suck booty

[rain condor]

Did they shadow nerf the disfavored It’s only giving out buffs once each turn instead of when it gains a power boost

Unless I’m going crazy or something

Weird it’s working fine but it wasn’t before

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar 👀 I couldnt do this again if i tried.

apparently randomly placing towers works eventually.

[indigo solar]

Why 2x hoof right next to each other?

[twilit thistle]

its kinda in the middle? i died on wave 17 but its better than i usually get.

[opal pilot]

do anyone have new spreadsheet about build etc?

[karmic chasm]

No, but if you have Helhest, go copy @novel quest build and win

Sorry for ping mr goat

[twilit thistle]

Build wont change that much. people i play with die nonstop. One match, as a t0 Jaren, I had equal damage to a t6 Jaren. Same for hellhests. Players are either not trying or are just awful.

[true mauve]

Imagine paying for T6 and losing to a T0 💀

[karmic chasm]

Come help me in master 1. I’m getting gang slimed by shinkas

[lofty gale]

Where i can find a OP build for Tan

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[karmic chasm]

I see

[exotic sinew]

Arc side of 31-40 is overtuned asf. How is a red bar doing more than 9000 dmg per shot

5000 overshield, 1500 shield, 3500 health or something like that

[sharp talon]

they want u to use kabr i guess

[exotic sinew]

I use Kabr, sure I survive. He’s so slow and does low damage. I already finished I just want a 8m clear like I usually do

[bold thunder]

New video with simplified wave 2 (+ better explanations)
#videos-and-streams message

[sharp talon]

i think i saw someone do 4 mins on kabr, so it's possible to get under that

[exotic sinew]

Yeah I don’t know how. I play on phone and they must’ve reran 100+ times on PC

I used Ning and got 11m

[karmic chasm]

Yea it’s insane

[exotic sinew]

But I died like 6 times to a one shot red bar

If I didn’t die my Ning could do 8m

My Kabr is actually T6 too

[dusty spire]

I play on phone too, thing is you need to be more optimised for 31-40 and over the recommended amount otherwise it’s penalties

[exotic sinew]

Maybe I need to see the video of a 4m Kabr clear to see the route because I don’t get it he’s too slow

I am definitely over lol I usually get 6-7m clears

Besides in expanse there’s a power cap

[dusty spire]

Then your on optimised route then

[exotic sinew]

In calamity there isn’t so 3k over is recommended there

[karmic chasm]

That’s why my Jaren is doing garbage damage in master then 🤔

[sharp talon]

ill dm you the link

[dusty spire]

Few rooms have an optimised route that you really wanna pull off to get the best time for that room

[exotic sinew]

Yeah I’m definitely clueless on Kabr’s route

[sharp talon]

he does clever tricks in that video

[exotic sinew]

And the new room with the servitor that teleports further back and back

[dusty spire]

Took me a few runs

[dusty spire]

That one is a sprint and ignore the Shinka straight super on his side and hit the enemy’s behind or tag boss quick

[exotic sinew]

If there’s a 5m Kabr clear video I wanna see it because I have T6 Kabr with C3 Arbalest, RC or Symmetry and even Fang of Ir Yut is almost maxed out with god rolls

[tropic swift]

Anyone in EMEA that has Band Emote?

[dusty spire]

I think I got 7 let me check

[exotic sinew]

What I actually ended up doing, too

[sharp talon]

i sent ya the 04:19 kabr clear vid

[dusty spire]

Nope I’m 8:47

[dusty spire]

Send me

[exotic sinew]

Thank you

[sharp talon]

also sent ya

[karmic chasm]

I run expanse once for the title and then don’t touch it for two weeks

[sharp talon]

i dont think i will be playing much expanse after jaren is out of the rotation

the arc piercing expanse isnt fun to me. still have a bad time on that as i didn't want to play it more

[karmic chasm]

Fair

I HATED arc piercing expanse
But I also hated the boss for Jaren. At least the health bar was relatively squishy

[sharp talon]

its also hard to compete with the god roll jarens. think im the only one in top 10 (on emea/apac) with bad artifacts and no god rolls

[twilit thistle]

best rossi tho

[karmic chasm]

Sadly not even close 😂
But I appreciate it dog

[sharp talon]

idk if i should wait for next expanse to max my new slot 3 artifact before upgrading to 85

or use it now 😂

how much essence do you lose (e.g need more to max it) when it goes to 85 i forgot. (edit: i rewatched misery's video again on this 👍 )

[indigo solar]

Yeah but the auras overlap pretty much entirely, you'd be better off spacing them further apart

[twilit thistle]

😭

[indigo solar]

Sorry, meant to reply to this yesterday. This was before Umeko/Axion where tans could just kill issakis in one frame and actually needed two shots, if they have to reload a strong Gwynn can beat them

[thorny frost]

It was technically built for barrier. It has a modifier that the more damage an opponent has the more damage they will deal. Not sure if that is applicable for your scenario for tho.

[cyan tide]

It was specifically made for Kabr, a lot of attacks will just one shot you so you have to avoid taking damage

[lofty gale]

Peak composition 😭

[bold thunder]

if they have to reload they shouldn't be using izi lol

I miss Gwynn dps meta though, fun character

[indigo solar]

Think this was before we had exotic mods, could be wrong tho

[bold thunder]

Ohhh that makes sense then

[chilly flare]

Grrrrrrrrr

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[versed scroll]

What weapon type is Jade Rabbit?

[bold thunder]

Scout rifle

[versed scroll]

Thank you!

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar did you discover anything today? How many rounds would zombie/treats get without towers? A non hoof/anest meta?

[indigo solar]

Without towers yeah no hope, around round 4/5, and I got to round 10 earlier without hoof or anesthesia and stopped testing

Could probably go a couple of waves further by replacing more econ towers

[rotund flame]

Been seeing lots of people saying they buffed the enemies making it very hard to get to higher lvs. So dumb to do that after nerfing everything lol

[indigo solar]

They did yeah, clearly they would rather just make getting to 99 nearly impossible than make it truly infinite

[twilit thistle]

Well its certainly not wave 4.

[rotund flame]

I'm more excited for the free 1 photon lol

[karmic chasm]

So we can work on an actually good exotic yea

[gaunt gust]

Hello can someone here with higher rank than specialist 1 help me with calamity ops, i want to reach 1-2 more rank to claim the exotic cores

Last 20 i need to max out my arbalest

I’m already out of today pinnacle

[drowsy girder]

wanted to sell my account any good site to list it ?

[haughty dragon]

Not here bucko

Lmao

[drowsy girder]

i know thats why im asking lol

[tight talon]

jeez people dont wanna play bulwark 3 player endless anymore smh

[scenic wigeon]

Cause it got nerfed to oblivion

[tight talon]

Nah

Stonehoof got nerfed cause everyone and their grandmothers spammed it

and aura stacking obviously

you can still clear very well if you use Anasthesia and learn how to setup scorch on enemies

[scenic wigeon]

I hate flying dudes... their so tanky

[indigo solar]

Stone hoof got nerfed but enemies also got significantly buffed

Pure anesthesia used to hit around 45 without superweapons, now it barely scrapes 20

[tight talon]

Eh how

[indigo solar]

Much more health

[tight talon]

I hate stealth changes

[indigo solar]

It wasn't a stealth change?

[last matrix]

what are the chances theres been an update on a potential pc port?

[stark forge]

6.7%

[last matrix]

decent odds

[proud mulch]

which are the best rolls for the fire grenade launcher?

[stark forge]

probably alh/ensure

[tight talon]

Lowkey enemy difficulty for me is modifiers that they roll with.

Like Shielded having more Shield HP, or Warp Invul duration being longer, or Invis Enemies moving faster or Fog enemies re entering fog

Could have just said increased enemy HP on all thresholds

Also made no sense to inflate HP that much on earlier waves like Wave 10

[proud mulch]

@bold thunder great video!
i used otter instead of hoof and still got almost the same result
got to 15 round for the first time haha

[timid drift]

so for calamity if someone on my team is in a higher rank, i can’t get promoted?

[proud mulch]

you can, they can’t

they can carry you from expert to master (for example), but if they are master they won’t get promoted

[summer ledge]

I had forgotten how EV friendly Colorado was until I finally bought one.

[trim belfry]

i'm feeling lost in this game, I don't know what should I focus on building characters, atm i'm just trying to level the acclaim. level 19 btw

[haughty dragon]

What I did was focus on the units that are needed for this season, acclaim levels don't mean much tbh I'm at max lvl 111 and really the only thing you get are bundles to buy lol

[prisma nest]

i mean its to literally upgrade power level

so it kinda matters

(im also extremely close to passing 19, i just need to be at 63k for jaren)

[haughty dragon]

Right but the acclaim levels themselves don't matter much once you upgrade the drop bonus

[prisma nest]

oh ya true

[haughty dragon]

Unless they add new bonus it's pretty much just a flex at that point lol

[prisma nest]

the only one that truly matters would be extra light team member ig

[haughty dragon]

Right

Out of all the characters out I think I have maybe 4 over 70k

Rest are 65 and under

[prisma nest]

the only one i wanted was jaren ima be real

[haughty dragon]

He is a pretty good unit

[prisma nest]

i am a golden gun main on d2 and its all i wanted 🐅

[haughty dragon]

Fair lol

I definitely use jarren alot

[trim belfry]

yeah but the problem is I don't know how to build a char, what should I focus on building them

[haughty dragon]

Well depends

What characters do you have or which ones you like to use?

[trim belfry]

i'm just getting them to level 50k+

[prisma nest]

i bet im lvl 27 in acclaim 🤔

i dont even know the number yet

[haughty dragon]

What number?

[prisma nest]

the actual level

number

[trim belfry]

is there a site tells you the best artifact and weapon for each char ?

[prisma nest]

youtube

[haughty dragon]

No sites but you can go on youtube

[prisma nest]

.com

[kindred ember]

[haughty dragon]

You could also go to the leaderboards in game and checkout what others are using

[trim belfry]

any specific youtuber ?

[haughty dragon]

Misery is good

He knows what he's talking about

[prisma nest]

idk if i should listen to sad music while i play rising

screw it

[haughty dragon]

Only when you doing pulls

[prisma nest]

nah the whole game

[trim belfry]

i'll check, thank you ^^

[haughty dragon]

I think we only have a couple of months until we get new campaign

[haughty dragon]

No problem

[vocal hawk]

March

[haughty dragon]

Yup

I hope we get a new zone, I'm tired of red Sea lmaol

[prisma nest]

gotta be the saddest tear jerking bs in the world

if you die and then everyone will be sad because u blast it through the mic

ez

[haughty dragon]

Lmao

[vocal hawk]

Afaik it's a third zone in RSR (sorry)

[prisma nest]

and then when you get revived the music goes back off

[haughty dragon]

I've had some interesting experiences with other people having their mic on during raids or Morgan hunt

[prisma nest]

if yall heard what I'm listening to yall would probably agree

[haughty dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/lonely-so-gif-25731523

😂

[prisma nest]

wait.

https://tenor.com/view/prince3236-kin-kane-music-video-kissland-kiss-land-gif-13384007694809735644

[haughty dragon]

..... I don't know who that is

[prisma nest]

it's the weeknd bro

[haughty dragon]

It's Wednesday

😂

[prisma nest]

bro

[haughty dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tuss-jokes-gotcha-burn-ouch-gif-5645546

[prisma nest]

too high

🐿️

I'm just trying to listen to some real sad music bro, I'm here to spread the word

Bird is no longer the word

now it's just sad

[haughty dragon]

[summer ledge]

I find that characters that can handle multiple shinkas and/or shields, either directly/as intended or indirectly/in an unexpected way are helpful early on when resources are scarce.

[prisma nest]

that better be buttered bruh

[haughty dragon]

Naa it's plain

[prisma nest]

but bruh buttered is the best in the business brah

[haughty dragon]

Unbuttered unsalted

[summer ledge]

Tan can handle piercing well due to his weapon loadout, for example, but a Total Lockdown with Allocation Vector can also do rapid fire since its shots count as three hits. He also has access to primaries in all three elements and Borealis.

[haughty dragon]

I haven't used tan in like 3 months lol

[prisma nest]

you know what

[haughty dragon]

Chicken butt

[summer ledge]

Rossi has a bow and a crossbow, so they can do rapid fire and piercing by default. I hear a lot of people use Gallows on Estela or Kabr Senior for spread and rapid fire. Jolder seems to have coverage for almost every shinka, and if you get the new Kabr, Symmetry does work on spread and piercing.

[haughty dragon]

Lmaooo kabr senior

Symmetry is really good, I enjoy it more then arbalest honestly

[summer ledge]

Wolf isn't the most broken or insane unit, but having access to two different weapon types, one of them including Smart Bomb, is still fairly decent.

[summer ledge]

Just been using Arbalest since it's a hassle trying to regrind these singularities on a 4% drop chance to build another exotic, especially so close to what is almost definitely Toland and Bad Juju.

[prisma nest]

super saiyan kabr

but will atheon wipe him from the timeline this time

[cerulean belfry]

Guys any strat for squad bulwark to make it till 15 waves?

[haughty dragon]

Fair, i stopped grinding I'll get there sometime lol

[empty kettle]

Wolf's got his back

[summer ledge]

His character storyline doesn't exist yet because they'll probably do something with what happened in the Vault, if they ever add it.

[haughty dragon]

Check out thatunknowndr on YouTube he did a whole guide

[summer ledge]

Praedyth and Pahanin are mentioned by name both in one of his voice lines and in his lore entries, so they already exist as a fireteam. If neither are added as playable characters, I'm going to guess there will be a branch in the timeline where Kabr is the only one who gets back out this time.

[cerulean belfry]

Ok thanks!

[haughty dragon]

I would post a picture but there's an ad for a certain service that goes against tos for destiny lol

Who do we think will be the next character lol, most likely will be void

[vocal hawk]

There was a leak of a butterfly themed character that sounds plausible

I think it's too early to do another ascended 4* character but they're probably going to be void

[last matrix]

no pc port leaks?

[thin valve]

Solar piercing when

[naive ingot]

It probably be Ikora next, main timeline one... Rapid fire primary and shotty for heavy

[naive ingot]

Void impact when

[thin valve]

Need solar piercing for arbalest to go brr

[haughty dragon]

Done that already

[naive ingot]

Arc impact so Xuan Wei becomes even more of a god

[haughty dragon]

Probably get a void smg

[naive ingot]

Like the pre season. Which was what 4 months ago. Yet got arc piercing, again

[thin valve]

Helhest rerun when.

[haughty dragon]

Next year lol

[thin valve]

Waiting.

[haughty dragon]

I can see them doing a rerun banner with older units at the one year mark

[vocal hawk]

yes 2027 for sure definitely
-# for legal reasons i am being extremely unserious right now

[naive ingot]

When they are added to the permenant banner right? 😂🤣

[vocal hawk]

1YA would be a good time to bring back heavy hitters

[thin valve]

They should do all gwynn estela and helhest rerun together

[naive ingot]

Do a warlock banner for Gwynn, Estela. Hunter Helhest and Jaren. Titan Maru and Kabr (Timelost)

[haughty dragon]

I'd be okay with this

[thin valve]

On 1 year mark they will make en event where u get 60 draws and can choose one char

[haughty dragon]

I could see them doing that IF this one did good with sales

[empty kettle]

No