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[prisma nest]

touch of malice

does destiny rising have oryx? we'll have that too

[dusty spire]

Tan is extremely useful forget the noise, wait for more activities to open and more players to have him actually built to offer imo.

Again I’ll list

Calamity ops
Having multiple of the same hero should generate lesser points by - 0.x (optional)

(This encourages wider pool play)

Remove unstuck and have restart run (any stuck moment would kill a score anyways)

Keep respawn pull

We can Penalty on death so it cannot be used to respawn without losing points.

Check-points are only gained once all members have passed the point.

True competitive play have no problem with balance changes only those threaten of losing titles to unfair advantage.

[bold thunder]

Oh yeah he's useful for a portion of the game, but it just so happens that's the part of the game that I prefer to play, hence my maining him

Also solo isaakis

[dusty spire]

Made my raid run so much easier because our team had survival as I was using healing set

So no one was running around scared scared high risking everything

[bold thunder]

He's the only character with a meaningful survival kit (that I know of, not sure how maru or kabr fair) that has actual damage which fits a fairly useful niche

[dusty spire]

Operation cordon he will be great for that

[bold thunder]

The other characters tend to lean towards glass cannon or tank

[bold thunder]

Ngl no idea what that is, but I'm interested to see it if so

[dusty spire]

Well yeah this is the current meta glass cannon rush

A few balance changes can discourage that, still make it optional but not game defining

[bold thunder]

I think that's the reality of having low skill ceiling content and balancing it with speedrunning mechanics

[dusty spire]

But I know players who heavily lean on HH for climbing not like the idea

Netease is waiting to slap in the changes I bet

Just giving players a bit more time to widen out

[bold thunder]

We'll see

I'd say I'd like more D2 style activity balancing with more challenging combat rather than speedrun mechanics

But using D2 as a baseline atm doesn't seem particularly wise

[dusty spire]

I think that’s what cordons about

Hence the arts having different set styles for different styles.

[bold thunder]

Interesting

[dusty spire]

Survival sets might be viable for certain heroes playing certain role at extreme difficulty point

You’ll need a standard format

Defender
Support
Offensive

Defenders reduce damage protect
Support buff regen
Offensive clear important targets debuff

If it what I think it is working together and communicating will be important

A better version of Morgan hunt 🥸

[vocal hawk]

I am very interested in what Cordon Condor is about

[bold thunder]

It seems very interesting

[dusty spire]

Glass cannon might get you to extreme quick but how many waves levels will you survive?

[bold thunder]

Infinite scaling seems fun, though I imagine at some point it becomes "get 1 shot if you step put of cover"

[dusty spire]

Will you go further than a standard format or is the risk reward not worth it and requires more depth because we have modifiers ect

[dusty spire]

Yupppp so you need def support and offensive strats at higher difficulty points to flex

[vocal hawk]

A lot also rides on how the rewards scale cough bulwark endless

sorry ive been under the weather lately, weird coughs

[dusty spire]

Fair and how fun it is

[bold thunder]

They clearly have some interesting ideas for content variety... I wasn't expecting a tower defense game during the 2 months or so I was gone

[dusty spire]

No need to apologise, hope you get better though lol

[bold thunder]

So I'm definitely intrigued about the future

[dusty spire]

lol the tower defence mode has really grown on me lol now that I kinda get it

[vocal hawk]

(it was a joke, albeit one based partially in reality)

[dusty spire]

Gonna farm more cards so I can get the tower pool stronger

[vocal hawk]

I need to play more of it

[violet minnow]

You guys think netease will just copy and paste D2 jade rabbit that will come in a couple of days? I mean that scout is purely made for pvp in D2 and sucks in pve, I'm curious what it will become in DR

[dusty spire]

Absolutely 💯

[bold thunder]

I've played a decent amount but I'm not sure I have the patience to grind out t4 gungir to go for high rounds

The gamemode is very fun though, I've always loved tds

[vocal hawk]

Been having trouble playing, my controller developed a crack in it and it's made it...annoying to play

[dusty spire]

I plan to definitely complete it over time all rewards add up plus the title looks aight lool

[vocal hawk]

My main issue with tower defense is a personal one, I wish the enemies were more active

I understand that's not part of the genre though

[bold thunder]

Most of the exotics have had minor to major changes. I'd guess it'll be similar to polaris/trinity where it's nominally the same but has some key difference

[vocal hawk]

TLW is a good example of a gun that they completely reworked

[dusty spire]

It could be later, right now it could be to difficult or a deliberate retainer on content so they have updates to offer later lol

[vocal hawk]

Jade Rabbit was a copy paste in alpha but that was also alpha. Alpha didn't have three catalysts.

[dusty spire]

Like the mobs get quite big imagine them attacking too

[bold thunder]

Along similar lines, I don't like that our guns do so little to the enemies, I feel like they could go more of an Orcs Must Die route and let us basically be our own defense if we want to be

[dusty spire]

Only thing I don’t like is Maru cannot proc over shields :/

[vocal hawk]

If you have overshield stat you can keep an overshield running after a bit

[bitter estuary]

Hi balls

[bitter estuary]

It feels like you need to use X strat bc its the only one that works

[violet minnow]

Damn you actually giving me hope, then I really hope they will take a deep look to Izi's 2nd perk, nobody likes outlaw, give it a better reload speed perk and I'm happy 😂

[bitter estuary]

It felt too easy now too restrictive ngl

[bold thunder]

I mean with Polaris they basically kept the entire original perk but then added an extra effect where the gun does more damage for each debuff on the target. I could definitely see something similar to spice up jade rabbit

[bold thunder]

It feels oddly restrictive because it feels both too easy and too hard imo

Once you have a decent grasp of the setup, wave 15 is fairly easy to do consistently, and there's no reward for going higher

But then if you want to go higher for fun, the ramp up is insanely fast now, so you can't even really meaningfully compete over wave records or something

[heady rivet]

How to open research crate form TD mode?

[bold thunder]

I don't think anyone has even made it to 30 post patch

[bold thunder]

Switch to the multi-player mode temporarily (or endless id you have it unlocked)

The cards are shared between modes but you can't open them in the solo normal menu

[vocal hawk]

We have a video pinned for reference

[lime idol]

Anyone else getting a weird error trying to open the customer support? It’s in mandarin but roughly translates to “external server error” or “interface error”

[vocal hawk]

It's working fine for me, sorry

[lime idol]

Hm. I have a ticket open and can’t access it 😭

[thick copper]

whaaaaaaat ?

[random steeple]

btw right now unstuck at least something which allow you to make strategy for run
with out it calamity would be pretty flat, it would be too easy to get best score, and no a lot of options for improve

because right now u have like some kind of roles

• u have 1 runner guys (or 2 sometimes which swap by their ultimates)
• and 1-2 guys who clearing stuff and closing shinkas/elements which catchuping runner guy with unstucks
  and unstucks at that moment is some kind of resource which you need wisely spend

[dusty spire]

Then make it an item not a ui mechanic it’s not part of the game, I get it…I even use it but I don’t think it’s a true mechanic.

[random steeple]

totally agree!

i mean that's weird i'm totally agree, they should make it an item which 100% more comfortable, if they would fully remove it at current point, well it also would be okay, but that's really would be even more flat then expanse this way, and even more about perfect execution, and top 1-10 teams would compete in " did we get 500 score more on that shank at 5x, or we kill this common at 4x"

That's would be pretty same to current stuff, but with out strategy mechanic at all, just hit-and-run till perfection

[random steeple]

it would be cool, i really would love it, if it makes exotic primary weapons work and defensive characters also XD
So tired of speedruns to be honest

[random steeple]

Maru was perfect in raid, she can take agro of crota and tank him all the time + absorb his projectile which refresh here Q ability and that was really huge

Kabr to be honest was easy to survive but lack of dmg was an issue, and if u playing piering hero, u have a lot of good spots to stay and be safe all the time

And important thing about any raid activity which i got from warcraft raiding, it's key parametrs for raid group is always a dmg by default
Heal or tanking give you survivability, but dmg give you same and dmg!
because if your encounter take less time it's just mean you have much less time to make a mistake and die

[dusty spire]

Honestly speed run has got the right potential just skewed in such a way that now has become repetitive around a few heroe/s. No diversity in hero function, competitively it’s the lowest I’d say even on a mobile competitive level…hence I hand out these 🍪

C ops is good for lumi that’s it right about now, not so much fun but more so a chore for highest returns now lol

[random steeple]

Well i mean we have diversity we just does't have enough heroes for that
I mean we have only 2 heroes which can take runner role its Ning and Jaren

2 other slots usually taken with utility like HH and boss dmg
or with functional things like spread shinka or solar shield if u using ning (well in fuliminator for example we was at great score with maru + solar GL)

but currently they just don't do any mechanics which force you to playaround of them, like all these balls things mostly can be ignored

[random steeple]

shield modifier was intersting but was very easy to destroy with ning or jaren

and HH just have tooo many things, and u always wanna have at least one

So variety could be much better, if HH just don't do everything in the game XD or do lesser dmg as support not as crazy offensive boss melting machine
or if mechanics of modifier would really force you to modify your own playstyle hard

[dusty spire]

It’s clearly a balance issue so it’s why I don’t entertain it much. However on the fair side this is an arc cycle she should perform great

[random steeple]

she was still good even with out it, that's a problem

i mean all others heroes balance i think really not that bad, but HH feels like really some kind of mistake or idk

[dusty spire]

I respect the support kit though

[hexed vault]

No chance will it be a copy and paste. Look at what they did for the Last Word and it was pretty much PVP only in D2

[tight talon]

if Jade Rabbit comes as is

who even gonna use it lol

[mint tendon]

Morning

[eternal cove]

I will. It should be cool for pvp

[eternal cove]

Evening for me

[devout void]

Thank you for setting the record straight; it's a great message full of useful information, rather than misleading new players with their imaginations.

It's okay if Tan is your favorite character, but unfortunately it's a gacha game, we're not in season 0 anymore, Hellhest has killed everything, the top Tan players I knew have switched to Jarren or something else

[true mauve]

Rossi fr

[stark forge]

even umeko is better in tan department

[mint tendon]

Ok

[tight talon]

When perks are disabled?

[naive ingot]

if you know what I mean @tight talon

[tight talon]

[true mauve]

Lol scout/sniper sucks. The characters kits are only half the picture. Half of what bro said pooping on Tan was about Borealis and Izi vs Arby and RC. The kit needs an OP weapon slot and it needs an OP wpn mastery to "overclock" (HH humour 🤣 ) the OP weapon even farther

Xuan Wei would be so good if bro didnt have to use Fusion Rifle/Shotty

Would be awesome to see what Xuan wpn mastery does with a 1Shot Izi

TLDR: The kit has to be good, and the weapons have to also

[devout void]

Yea she will help more for a lot of content, except an T6 helhest enter the chat but sometime it's good to have Umeko

For speedrun issakis, crota, deathsingers or during contest, Umeko also did the x3 boss on a recent Nexus calam

She clear Arc expanse, well maybe Tan but I didnt see someone yet, must be easy with arc kit now

[stark forge]

no need to change weapons, just make power weapons have infinite ammo and all problems are solved

[true mauve]

Bahahahhaha no read lvl 4 wpn mastery pls

[devout void]

Tan or Umeko when they miss their izanagi shot and had no more ammo

Hellhest salvo brrrr headshot infinite heavy

[true mauve]

The % dmg vs flat dmg is what decides who gets creeped and who could stay. Flat dmg wont increase as content gets harder and wont get better with new weapons. It gets creeped.

[devout void]

Waiting Xuan Wei 2.0 then

[true mauve]

I want Xuan to use an Izi just 1 time to see his dmg

[devout void]

Maybe if someone hack the game and switch weapon

[bitter estuary]

juan wei

[long heron]

how does one even get wave 15 with random queue

[stark forge]

pray they dont plant muqam and stone hoof only

[long heron]

usually i only see players that dont play mugam at all lol

[stark forge]

its tragic i matched with these players they let enemies flood each other bases

[long heron]

yea, usually its just 1 guy leaking and ends at wave 5

[true mauve]

Maybe when it hits EoS someone can make an APK and mod it

[devout void]

By the way, unstuck is a bit different now. I actually think it's an incredible mechanic because without it, I don't even know how we'd have different scores.

Before, it was pretty simple; everyone did it at the same time. It was possible that at the end of a cycle, several teams would have the maximum score, or a similar score.

This cycle is quite difficult; there's a real gap. In Europe, we have the best score in the world with 466k. Now, not everyone unstucks; the DPS can do it at different timing, and you have to find the best plan. It comes down to the smallest details: if a DPS or the runner makes a small mistake, it's a wipe (if you want a high score of course). I don't know, I watch them play, and it's quite impressive. Unstuck has been pushed further in this cycle.

Everyone can unstuck, but it's not enough to get 416k, 430k, or 466k. Between each score, there's now a huge gap in personal skill and advanced strategy.

So yes, without that button, I don't know what could really separate all the team. Everyone can use that button, but it doesn't do everything.

[dusty spire]

It’s not a in game mechanic as part of the game structure.

You might like the idea, devs should consider making it an actually thing. But it is not an official mechanisms for the mode it’s just utilised by players for an outcome.

The buttons not needed and only cases a threat on however it’s currently used now that’s all.

[devout void]

Whatever it is, it creates a certain skill gap, and NetEase has never wanted to remove it. They even use it for certain Expert promotion scores that are unattainable without it.

[dusty spire]

If it’s removed then we can talk about what its affect have been otherwise it’s all theory based

Remove it and let’s see how it plays out 💎🍪

[tight talon]

Netease self using it isnt a justification tho

[dusty spire]

It’s that’s simple

[devout void]

Im just trying to imagine how team make different score without that

I know some people here believe that good players would be bad without unstuck, but that's far from the truth. You can't even imagine the skill required to score 466k now or even more; it goes beyond just a button because everyone already uses it for lower scores.

[dusty spire]

Don’t over complicate it, it’s simple remove it and let’s see

If it works it works if it don’t it don’t

We will see 👍🏾

[tight talon]

I mean its plain simple. Add fair play and keep unstuck or dont add fair play and remove unstuck

[dusty spire]

Very simple 👌🏾

[devout void]

But yea the player base will be happy and everyone will have the same rank pretty much maybe

Except if your runner do an amazing job, everyone can salvo and shoot a full room then move on until the boss

[tight talon]

or change the mode to be a room clear with fair play + legendary campaign teleport. thats fine as well

[devout void]

Why Netease want fair play everywhere and stop selling character

[tight talon]

considering leaderboard positions are only inflated cause people use both t6 and unstuck at the same time.

[dusty spire]

Just remove unstuck lol it leaves room for hero expansion later too lol

[devout void]

Yes, that's what people say, even when a T1 Maru finishes #1 Calam or when niche/free characters are at the top.

Skill, strategy > T6. Okay, remove the button if you want to eliminate the small skill gap in the game. The best players in the world use it and they can't get the maximum score, even with full T6. It's not just that.

[dusty spire]

Yeah just remove then let players experiment more 👌🏾

And increase difficulty a little more

[tight talon]

I mean again, that justification doesnt work. calamity ops is not a single player mode that T1 Maru being #1 validates it. Theres still a T6 HH and another T6 Runner by your definition would fit 😛

[dusty spire]

And leave room for support heroes with thing like team movement boost abilities ect

[random steeple]

we have cycles with Fuliminator where unstucks almost useless, that's was a bit flat and boring
Same would be in a lot of activity, but it still could be replaced with joining allies or death taps

[devout void]

These same top unstuck players are also the same good players in Expanse and then in Contests (don't talk to me about exploits, they were top before exploits too).

I just think this button adds a mechanic that forces you to use your brain, to develop strategies. You think you have to press it and win when they spend hours, days, perfecting a plan to kill the boss in x3

But fine, let's do it, the community will be happy and still behind them so nothing will change, you can't even respect the player that push the limit of the game and keep saying T6, unstuck every time we talk about Calam', if it was so easy we will all press the button and be top 1

[dusty spire]

Rather than be fixed on using a button to hop a distance for score. Let’s hope netease can cook more units for more options ay

Ima shout netease marvel rivals and say add unstuck for more mechanics

So we can unstuck at different points and do things that make us feel it’s making the game play more interesting

And enjoyable

[random steeple]

i mean teams would make diff score, but this would like expanse battle for seconds

[dusty spire]

It’s used by a few and that don’t justify, unless you really just want that for just the few to compete with lol. Open up the flod gates for more competition who would want that 🙂

[devout void]

Even Ikora show you it work, or Umeko, or Wolf

Or Ning that dont even need T6 as a runner. Can't hide behind T6 or unstuck for ever

These players are just more smart and skilled so gg to them when they do a good score without full meta

[random steeple]

i mean if general strategy is flat, then u optimize really very small things, i mean we already do that, but we have something to manage at least
so strategy because of it have more ways to evolve during cycle

With out, strategy would evolves less, and it would be more about clear execution skills that's it

[tight talon]

if there's true "skill" expression, that should by "assumed" fairness needs all 3 characters with T0/T1 at max and hardly any BP weapons being #1 Overseer.

But leader board position goes to ones who pay. and obviously theres a gap between T6 x3 players doing the run vs T6 + Unstuck gimmick users. Unstuck serves no purpose for people who matchmake & people who pay for T6 Cata 3 BP weapons and do it fairly. Only a minority that would use it and inflate it.

[dusty spire]

But I digress until this is truly balanced it’s all

First few badges are cool until you end a real balanced environment

[random steeple]

matchmake would never be same optimal bro, so matchking it's only for start and newbie players
I mean even if u remove any unstucks kind of mechanic it still would be about target priority where everone need to know every bullet he do, and every target and flick he do

[devout void]

What I try to said

30 teams were doing best score in Fulminator because it was so easy and useless unstuck

Now we have a more hard cycle and a skill gap appear even if everyone still press the button

[random steeple]

I mean this is team thing, u need to optimize team dmg and route, so you need tune your timing to teammates timings, so matchmaking would NEVER work good in calamity

[dusty spire]

You have more heroes to use and we won’t have to define by what works with a button the best…how hard is it to get.

Over complicating to keep a barrier imo

Scared behaviour

[devout void]

The player that want to compete know about that and can open Youtube to learn

It's not like because we remove the button, someone from Specialist will become a high skilled player and get top 1

[dusty spire]

If it truly breaks the game just re add it 😂💎

[tight talon]

100% agree. So what's justifies having T6, Cata 3 BP weapons and then using unstuck as a gimmick to score leadrboard position. That button use aint skill gap innit.

there are also T6 random players in lower ranks that dont use this gimmick and run fairly. So whats the skill definition about in higher ranks?

[pulsar coral]

I’m in Expert I, can someone help get me to at least Expert II before reset?? I can play in about 2 hours lol

[dusty spire]

The players that want to compete are not defined by those using openly unbalanced characters and the use of a button not intended

[random steeple]

i mean i don't mind if they remove it, it would be more similiar to Issakis speedruns farm from my perspective then Xd

But even that could be okay, i don't care, it's still would be about skill, just less satisfying to optimize because u would have less things to optimize

[devout void]

I don't really understand your post

[dusty spire]

Never mind, I’m simple remove unstuck and let’s see how it impacts c ops. I’m just thinking how something not intended affects the general design of a game mode look

[random steeple]

no that's not about skill in button, i told it below
it 's just more satysfying to optimize more things

[dusty spire]

Well let’s see how it progresses in the future. I’m all for removal and that’s it

[devout void]

Lot of excuse

Just check the gap score, a full T6 unstuck squad can do 466k, the same full T6+unstuck will do 410k

Gg you play a gacha, using your money help, but many teams show us that they can do high score without a full stack of T6

[dusty spire]

It’s not about full stack it’s about unstuck button

[tight talon]

gotta be clear man. You cant put optimize on when to shoot, when to deploy skill, when to reload to just pressing a button at certain time or shinka spawn

[random steeple]

u already do that
u already optimizing route and dmg in your teams but you also optimizing that

i mean that's just one more thing

[dusty spire]

Everything your saying is in theory once it’s removed then you can brag on what was correct or honestly admit where you was wrong.

[random steeple]

i mean that's just one more thing

I'm 100% sure it would be same teams at rank 1-5 as right now on all regions, with unstucks or without

[devout void]

Like Nordik said, maybe will become like Expanse

Every timer different for a few seconds

I think some here have no idea about the skill to do a high x3, the runner don't even unstuck and he need to play perfectly, I hope some Jarren can share their full pov of 466k or more

[dusty spire]

Brilliant that’s what I want to hear full run without unstuck that’s a flex

I hear unstuck to edge score then well

If it makes you feel good doing that have the badge lol

[true mauve]

You mean go back to OOBs?

[dusty spire]

Then your just doing oob what ever that serves you

[random steeple]

I said, i don't care they can remove it, it still would be quite same from my perpective, just a bit less thing to optimize route and build route, so it would be more straitforward at this aspect, but everything around that would be same

[dusty spire]

Nice

[random steeple]

That still mostly about optimizing targets, weapond, teamcomp and dmg
Teamcomp is quite clear to steal, so that's a thing u can't hide but everything else is a same
and ofc is a lot of execution

[tight talon]

again, someone out here says someone with T0 Ikora/Umeko/Wolf can reach #1 Overseer while conveniently putting aside T6 HH and a T6 Runner teammate. Any who. additional score inflation happens with unstuck & T6. There will be enough varied score if Unstuck is banned provided the teams wipe every single enemy off the map vs just rushing to boss and calling it GG

[random steeple]

I never said it recheable with T0 Xd

[white fossil]

[tight talon]

obviously, not saying you said it. :>

[true mauve]

I can attest to this, it takes alot of work and dedication

[devout void]

I'm still trying to understand the message. If they want to compete, they can; they can click the button and not get a high score. And I don't really understand why we're always talking about T6 characters; people are using the best tools available to them. It's a gacha game; you can switch games if you think you can't do anything with your characters. Or why we blame other player that spend their money ? Thanks anyway to the NA players for showing that anything is possible with a little passion and niche characters.

I don't even compete because I don't have the characters to aim much higher. That's not why I'm going to put down players who spend days developing strategies and wipe 100 times until they get it right. Let's respect the people who push the game's limits instead of settling for mediocrity. It's always impressive to see someone play well.

[random steeple]

did't get you but ok ...

[devout void]

They should watch a 460k from threats or hope Nord share his 466k

[random steeple]

currently nobody rushing to boss btw
We killing everything on the way

[tight talon]

well suprise, for promo from Spec II to Master I, we had to rush to boss.

[true mauve]

Room skips and time saves

[dusty spire]

It’s simple… remove unstuck don’t complicate it

[tight talon]

wonder why score is so inflated for this >.>

[random steeple]

Well that's promo Xd
who cares about it, i suppose we discuss rank 1 compete

[dusty spire]

It’s the over complicating explanations to justify a button not intended for the game mode

🤯

[random steeple]

for rank 1 u anyway would compete for every kill on your way, right now we already have 10-20 teams which kill boss at 3x, so they compete already not at boss kill, they compete at how many other stuff they can get

[tight talon]

i wonder if scores would be less if players on top of leaderboard didnt inflate it >.>

[dusty spire]

Well not intended to be used that way

[random steeple]

u mean auto-promotion score?

[true mauve]

Biggest issue is HH is soloing Cal Ops. She is using a runner to unstuck herself forward. She does 70% of the total dmg. If you watch in vids HH is killing EVERYTHING. The unstuck isnt the issue.

[tight talon]

true

[tight talon]

both, promotion zone and auto promotion

[random steeple]

That's difently true Xd

[devout void]

Most reviews talk about a subject they haven't bothered to explore, suggesting that all you have to do is press Unstuck to win or bring all your T6. Fortunately, it goes much deeper than that, and that's what makes it fun. The adrenaline rush and dopamine hit when you finally get the score you wanted after trying for a week, making new strat, new road, 100 wipes

[sharp talon]

im fine with unstuck as long as other characters are more viable unlike right now

[dusty spire]

Someone’s in the dev team ain’t been doing work that’s all lol

[devout void]

Yes Hellhest kill the game

[true mauve]

I went from spec1 to master1 in like 3 days 💀

[dusty spire]

Is it ready “yes yes” did you test it “umm yes!”

[random steeple]

I mean currently calops u need 1 arbalest hh and jaren or ning, and third player could be nearly to stay afk on any hero and join only for boss dmg, and u still will get 410 XD or around it

[pulsar coral]

Check your messages

[random steeple]

For better score u still need 1 more hh with contravene who would really play

[devout void]

Gg crazy dedictation
I like reading that than people hiding behind many excuse

[random steeple]

absolutely true
hh is crazy good for calamity at least (for other activities also btw)

[true mauve]

Thats due to cycle shinka/elements lol Jaren and HH just carried Finnala Jolder and Wolf to top

[devout void]

380k is x2 boss, not really a rush

Rushing boss is x3 and they still try to kill everything on the way except a Brigand maybe

[random steeple]

I mean currently calops u need 1 arbalest hh and jaren or ning, and third player could be nearly to stay afk on any hero and join only for boss dmg, and u still will get 410 XD or around it

[true mauve]

My breaking point was Rossi expanse runs, it forced skill somehow loool

[random steeple]

even with out piercing or ark cycle HH would be crazy good, we already see that on impact+spread solar+void Xd

[true mauve]

Fr, I was asking top Jaren about what the tech was for Cal Ops. He told me only one place to use unstuck as Jaren and it was iffy if it worked

[devout void]

But you did it gg, some here will said lvl 40 is p2w or yesterday i read "i cant do lvl 40 because I have a job and wife"

[random steeple]

and HH still was in teamcomps, but not 2 of them, only 1 XD

[true mauve]

We dont discuss HH on Solar Impact expanse 40 Ldrboard

[random steeple]

In our best run jaren did't use unstuck at all

but u have a small spot for optimization after servitor room

but that's crazy hard to time it perfectly

[true mauve]

I have 2 toddlers and a wife with full time job. I still was able to spend a few days running expanse over and over to improve that time

[cobalt beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/zaunvi-caitvitwt-gif-1251875630135871970

[true mauve]

Yeah he said I realllly need to know our runs and teammates and if we had any inconsistency the unstuck tech failes

[devout void]

It's cool when Jarren arrives in the balls room, rush left before the Shinka appears, break it, jump across the map dash dash to reach the Shinka on the right and break it, then run to take the ball

Unstuck button can't do that

[true mauve]

I called you Top Jaren 🤣

[random steeple]

yeap that's a cool stuff about it you need to tune up your timing to your teammates

[cobalt beacon]

Stawhp

Taniks is the real goat

[random steeple]

That happens from time to time, if most of shinka is skippable

[cobalt beacon]

They arent skippable on solar side tho

[random steeple]

btw we still have ning at good places in Arc one Xd

[cobalt beacon]

Arbalest just pops impacts way too quick

🤣

[sharp talon]

i think it was one of the cycles before arby where u didnt have to pop

[cobalt beacon]

Or atleast on 39 it isnt

[true mauve]

That made the diff between 370k and 390k for me

[random steeple]

oh i'm already forget that, that's my bad, i just remember previous cycle all impact shinka was skipable and hh was pretty good also bcs of that

with solar bow btw

[devout void]

Gg if you do that so early lol, i tought it was 466k strat

[cobalt beacon]

Yeah arby just pops impact quicker than jaren tbh

😂

[random steeple]

That's difently not true
but arba is effective yeap

[cobalt beacon]

It defo is man you dont know tech

😭im not gonna specify it so it doesnt get patched but it defo does

[random steeple]

Well idk that tech so for me it's not

[cobalt beacon]

All im saying is 39 shinka gets instant popped

Jaren takes like 8 shots+

With blind

[random steeple]

but i'm in china in vacation rn, so i did't grind cycles of expanse rn just casually cal ops runs with 250ping and 30 fps on my notebook

[devout void]

he was on 30 fps for 466k lock in Likely

[cobalt beacon]

👺

[sharp pelican]

can someone help me on cal ops tonight?

[cobalt beacon]

Maybe today im running with haal and syd

We will see

[sharp pelican]

ty

im not a freeloader i just dont have t6 hel rip

[cobalt beacon]

Sorry im na

[sharp pelican]

rip

[cobalt beacon]

I was talking to clife

[sharp pelican]

nw

[cobalt beacon]

480k loading hopefully

💀

[devout void]

but we read that good player are good because of unstuck

[random steeple]

are u on eu?

[devout void]

clean x5 jarren

[oak temple]

Is Jarren bugged?

[devout void]

yes he run too fast

[cobalt beacon]

Nah na

[devout void]

they wish

[cobalt beacon]

Im from eu tho

[ashen robin]

can i get jarren anymore?

[sharp talon]

wait for a rerun unfortunately

[oak temple]

no my blazing shot is put on cd after using the dodge

[cobalt beacon]

Who is this?

[true mauve]

Wtf was that jump skip the platforms?

[devout void]

not you

[cobalt beacon]

I would hope so

[ashen robin]

i dont even think the game will survive till a jarren rerun

[cobalt beacon]

😂

[devout void]

he failed a little but its ok if shinka die later

[true mauve]

Thats crazy, im usin it ❤️

[cobalt beacon]

Yeah dont💀

[devout void]

The runner that Zombie dreams of being, but the DualSense prevents him from it

[cobalt beacon]

This aint optimal in the slightest

[devout void]

It's for the show

[cobalt beacon]

[devout void]

rip ning fei

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/mets-baseball-gif-26443740

[cobalt beacon]

Why ning is still the goat

I helped napped on get a 428 yesterday running with ning

[devout void]

rerun ning with cowboy hat + fellwinter and hawkmoon + 3 dash i hope

[devout void]

gg

[cobalt beacon]

😂

Ning works to get 1 shinka atleast i think score caps at 435k

[devout void]

I don't want to torture myself with brute force Shinka anymore, my trash score on Ning will be enough for promotion i hope

[cobalt beacon]

Whats your score?

[devout void]

yes

[cobalt beacon]

Understandable

🤣

[devout void]

but enough for overseer whatever one day i need to pull game breaker character to play again this game

[cobalt beacon]

😭

[true mauve]

Time to do some work today, gotta get expanse time down on Jaren. Some noob has a 3:38 time to beat

[devout void]

I've become the ning that everyone avoids, whereas before I used to do 200 runs a week and help everyone

[cobalt beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/rinauchis-cocobearkins-gif-26346664

[true mauve]

She caused EoS

[true mauve]

❤️

[cobalt beacon]

Holy brick

[devout void]

[FUG] or nothing

[cobalt beacon]

I got fugged in

Than got the fug out

[true mauve]

Once youve been Fugged your life is never the same

[cobalt beacon]

😭

[cobalt beacon]

Imma teach you how to run 🥹

You gotta become the new brick prodigy

[true mauve]

I missed my Bricklayer invite when they first made the Pack, not missin it this time

[devout void]

gg

[cobalt beacon]

Damn

[devout void]

i wish i could join fug to have the p prison role

[hasty ocean]

DO NOT TRAUMATISE ME I HAD TO SEARCH THAT GARBAGE UP ON TIKTOK

[cobalt beacon]

Nooooooo

Come back from the dark side

Broooo that guy said it was medium size aswell

[cobalt beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-ew-what-is-that-whats-that-brother-gif-14318384540422820315

[true mauve]

Get the truck fired up, we got bricks to deliver. Good luck on teachin me if the dualsense controller is what kills zombie. I also am on a PS4 controller 😭

[cobalt beacon]

Brooo the controller doesn’t kill zombie

It actually carries

99% crit rate

[devout void]

Zombie can we start ?
Yes wait a minute

[cobalt beacon]

I first gotta teach you the runner mindset

[true mauve]

Get me in discord I need the BRCK tag

[cobalt beacon]

Ask silent

Im not allowed to do anything🥹

[devout void]

Dont care about anything then blame your Helhest for trash dps

[cobalt beacon]

He gets it

[devout void]

Door not open 0:35 ? Wipe because of Helhest

[cobalt beacon]

The mindset is the biggest part

[true mauve]

We got same red usb cord ❤️

[cobalt beacon]

The burkey special. “The doors not open” spam that 99x until its open

[cobalt beacon]

Fail a jump

Hit em with the eitherway i dont think it would have mattered

Thats the likely special

[true mauve]

This sounds better and better already, better build Ning also. Would be good to grief HH on 2 diff characters

[devout void]

Haha

[cobalt beacon]

Yea i mean helhest could have chose a different character

[devout void]

I forgot how to play Ning after 2 cycles on the slow character Maru, I need the mentality back

[cobalt beacon]

Not my fault they wanted to t6 a character that actually needs to do something

[cobalt beacon]

Real

The mindset is key

[true mauve]

I mean HH caused their own problems, if pros didnt play her then nobody would have known

[cobalt beacon]

So 🧱

[true mauve]

Lookit the poo HH we see now even at T6

[devout void]

When I hear the helhest enjoyer talking about their salvo management, drones, or whatever, when all I want to do is dash through the door

[indigo solar]

Muqam needs to be 2 star minimum (ideally not 3 star), hoof needs to be 2 star, anesthesia can be 1 star. You may need superweapon to stop a couple of ads from leaking if you aren't paying attention but other than that just Muqam/hoof/anesthesia can get you to 15 easy

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/next-friday-no-more-locked-doors-gif-11405170

[indigo solar]

Yes but without hoof the build to do changes every day since you need new towers to counter the rotating modifiers

[sharp talon]

decent roll? got this from an artifact chest

[cobalt beacon]

I mean running is the hardest job so

[devout void]

I love when netease patch band emote without telling and a team keep their good score

[cobalt beacon]

Pretty decent i would say dismantle it

[devout void]

I need 600 silver refund

[sharp talon]

i can finally replace inverted fury 😄

[indigo solar]

Very good yeah, only possible improvement is maybe sig over super but honestly which one is better depends on the activity

[cobalt beacon]

Sig is defo better

But cant go wrong

For now

[true mauve]

Not like their is video proof of the band emote being used 👀

[devout void]

He still work every week for me but maybe only 3 hoof now, 2 in front of the portal are the more important

[indigo solar]

For calam, but for pretty much everything else super is better, where Jaren's role is more of a boss nuker

[indigo solar]

They don't have hoof 😭

[cobalt beacon]

No but you can believe this

We can set aside our difference

[indigo solar]

Are you telling me you would prefer sig over super in something like Crota

[cobalt beacon]

Yeah

[indigo solar]

Where super chunks him hard

That's certainly a choice

[cobalt beacon]

2 min cooldown bricks it

[indigo solar]

Killing ads faster means nothing tho

[cobalt beacon]

If it was 1 i would say sure but

[devout void]

Mmm rip, i only start playing when I get it

[indigo solar]

Killing boss faster means you don't have to worry about people throwing as much

[cobalt beacon]

I mean look at the top expanse runners on eu and na we all run sig abil weapon solar

Same for calam

You dont get super enough to justify using super boost

[indigo solar]

Bc those are both activities focused on killing ads fast

[cobalt beacon]

Yeah it the only content where 4/4 artifacts matter

[indigo solar]

Cordon:

[devout void]

I think crota die before jarren fire the last shot 😭 rip jarren

[cobalt beacon]

Like i said bro its fine we disagree ☺️

[indigo solar]

Damn is normal that nerfed

[devout void]

But in the future yea super can work maybe

[random steeple]

it's okay, not bad, but super for signature would be better overall, it would be godroll this way

[devout void]

I can only shoot 1 izanagi so yes

[karmic chasm]

Yes, it would take intentional throwing to have to go to Oversoul

[random steeple]

nono we discuss it earlier on release of Jaren with our destiny manager @indigo solar
he was sure super is op and very important

[cobalt beacon]

Im done arguing with taniks ive told him before we play different games

[white fossil]

real i dont even use my super on crota until last phase where he runs away 🤣

[indigo solar]

They're being sarcastic

[random steeple]

Yeap we playing Destiny Rising, he playing Destiny Rising Team Manager 2026

[cobalt beacon]

Real

[sharp talon]

i shouldnt have wasted 3 dice trying for a wolf god roll before 💀

[cobalt beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/shifu-master-shifu-kfp-kung-fu-panda-shrug-gif-7412049758200875593

[cobalt beacon]

This taniks

[random steeple]

i mean u still would be on super side?

[indigo solar]

I mean on release you were saying super may be better than solar so I wouldn't be getting all high and mighty right now

[karmic chasm]

What

[random steeple]

Coach of my dream!

[cobalt beacon]

He teaches the top players i hope he teaches me one day

[sharp talon]

yeah i wasted 3 dice trying to reroll inverted fury for wolf 🤣 i have explosive shell god roll

[indigo solar]

#💭│main-chat message

[random steeple]

no, i said super is useless and u need to avoid it, for solar/signa/weapon/abil

[karmic chasm]

Inverted fury 😭
Dang

[devout void]

Imagine this game
You are Pep Guardiola choosing your gardians and put them in a TFT mode

[white fossil]

both dice ive had ive used on estela ngl

[random steeple]

same

[sharp talon]

i actually got weapon enh/ability strength/solar/sig on inverted fury with the dice as well. (i skipped it) i don't know if that would be better on jaren compared to 3/3 on valiant perturbation though

[cobalt beacon]

🤝

[indigo solar]

Where

[random steeple]

i knew a lot of top players, but noone of them is student of this legendary coach

but everyone want!

[cobalt beacon]

You just dont know ball ig bro

[karmic chasm]

I mean I unfortunately have Inv Guard on Rossi. Ideally Ring of Abundance should go there, but I never got a high enough roll when I started building. Someday I guess. 🤷‍♂️

[cobalt beacon]

Nord you are lil bro to him

[indigo solar]

Threats, Gerj, acetorrent, terrytorrent, mythicnexus, Krumb, es9, etc etc

[random steeple]

like a month ago u was on super side, so u switch it?

[devout void]

He coach threats he said

Guys respect taniks

[cobalt beacon]

Threats dont even claim you😭

[devout void]

You all copy his build apparently

[sharp talon]

i saw tangibility run inverted guard on his wolf, im planning on changing my wolf to that as well some day

[random steeple]

@novel quest is it true brother? is it your crazy coach Xd

[cobalt beacon]

Defo not his skill level

[indigo solar]

Crazy bc man was doing absolutely no thinking of his own 3 months ago

[devout void]

Taniks help me for umeko actually thanks or I will go Vulnerability to help the team speedrun

[random steeple]

Really he have a list of his talents he difently play destiny rising manager XD

[cobalt beacon]

I taught him dw

[devout void]

That's impressive ngl a full roster

[cobalt beacon]

Fifa ultimate team

😂

[devout void]

At the end you will win a mute or ban if you keep playing that game I already try

[cobalt beacon]

Lets stop bullying guys its enough💀

We will eat a mute in the next 5minutes

[white fossil]

bullying is uncool fr

[cobalt beacon]

It is

[karmic chasm]

And just when I was gonna say put the fries in the bag

[cobalt beacon]

But some people deserve it

Not @karmic chasm tho

Thats my goat👺

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/aw-shucks-gif-21150051

[white fossil]

nobody deserves it 🤣 bad people deserve worse and good people deserve better, bullying is just stupid and cruel 🙏

[cobalt beacon]

I respect rossi now

Ive seen ball

[karmic chasm]

I would NEVER spend a half hour arguing for the legitimacy of a character who can’t even crack 377k

[cobalt beacon]

Damn

[karmic chasm]

I mean we definitely could have with perfect timing, but it was just me, Corndog, and Oryon running with no mic.
Ended up doing it with two HH and a Jaren.

[cobalt beacon]

Noooo

[devout void]

Without trolling, he's a big help to the community, new players, tower player or anything.

I use his data on artifacts, theory crafting, or snipers. He is a bit like Wikipedia without the organization when you check his history, still useful. Of course, you play a different game; he himself said he didn't do Calamity, so he didn't know we used the ult to run to Ning and Jarren maybe but now he knows. Of course, top players don't need this to find the right build, and Nord and others also spend hours in practice range when a new character is released. Anyway, don't bully if you want keep talking

[cobalt beacon]

He turned to the darkside

[karmic chasm]

I’m sure if we really wanted to, we could drag Rossi through master content, but like

12 attempts a day 😭

[white fossil]

my first master strike solo was with rossi

[karmic chasm]

No, master calamity

My first solo grandmaster was also with Rossi

[white fossil]

i know i was just saying, i dont think rossi is good enough in calamity ops 😭

[karmic chasm]

All the warlocks are so slow

[cobalt beacon]

I mean its cool and all but for meta questions bro is often just wrong

Just because how differently content plays

[white fossil]

so far my only gm solos were estela and maru but im gonna try with jaren sometime this week too

not confident enough in my rossi game for gm solo 🥀

[cobalt beacon]

It gives new players missinformation that is just easily avoidable

[karmic chasm]

I thought I did it with Jaren, but then I realized I had accidentally selected master. It doesn’t matter, though, this specific Grandma should be a piece of cake for him.

[devout void]

The ultimate team joke were funny, I hope one day I have a roster like that when I retire

[cobalt beacon]

🧱

[karmic chasm]

Yeah, breaking impact with a bow and arrow was not exactly the common definition of fun

[white fossil]

yeah its literally set up for him with piercing and impact

[white fossil]

yeah rapid fire with grenade launchers is similar LMAO

[devout void]

I remember when someone powerful here tell everyone to build Trinity Ghoul 🥲 rip new player

[cobalt beacon]

Sounds like a bricklayer

[karmic chasm]

Good thing I’m the bubble master

[white fossil]

real

[karmic chasm]

Telling that impact that he’s locked in here with me

[white fossil]

🙏

[karmic chasm]

I’m the impact shinka now

[true mauve]

I used chiaroscuro for my expanse runs, it stopped the shinka 1 shots

[white fossil]

you know what is weirdly fast at destroying impact shinkas that i realized the other day, hand cannons!

ran out of shotgun ammo in my jaren and still managed to break impact shield fairly fast i was surprised fr

that was in another calamity crota 🙏

[karmic chasm]

They are weirdly fast until the solar shielded shanks just chunk your health in room four of calamity while you are trying to break the impact

I consider a run over if I don’t have enough shotgun ammo to kill both of those shinkas

[white fossil]

oh yeah shanks are so hard hitting in the higher content its legendary

[white fossil]

honestly valid it does make it way faster

[sharp talon]

yeah it takes way too long to primary an impact shinka in master calamity imo

[karmic chasm]

Anyway, I really don’t like running Jaren in calamity bc at T1 he doesn’t feel strong enough. My other t1s do to an extent

[indigo solar]

You say this and yet frequently when new chars come out I tell yall which artifacts you should be running and you only end up running them like 3 weeks later

[white fossil]

i cant really talk about calamity ops tbh i never push past expert, i probably could but i just dont wanna like actually tryhard

[karmic chasm]

Promotion zone for expert two isn’t that bad right now. We were able to get it in a few attempts with no unstuck.

[keen cave]

You mention it like a mesmerizing achievement! Well done, mate!

[white fossil]

especially when my teammates always seem to be incompetent 🥀

[cobalt beacon]

I mean your clearly just wrong about super boost on jaren so theres obvious flaws in your systems

[true mauve]

I think they all agreed stop this convo before it got out of hand and mutes

[white fossil]

im in relegation zone for expert 2 and will likely stay there lmfaooo

[true mauve]

Or they didnt 🤣

[devout void]

Genuine question, but do you think they wouldn't be able to find it? Because in Europe there are also math guys or practice range enthusiasts who also run Calam's a lot and they arrive at the same conclusion without being on this Discord server. Sometimes it's quite logical, and often the new artifacts become the choice.

[keen cave]

It won’t work!)

[white fossil]

still getting like 1k lumia though so its alright

[indigo solar]

Who are you?

[cobalt beacon]

Like im telling you he thinks all good players use his info but it might be like 2 people that might care

[bold thunder]

"Often"?
Or do you mean "in this one case that I'm angry about right now"?

[true mauve]

He did cal ops 13 times also

[true basin]

morning peeps

[karmic chasm]

Why is everything else in Hebrew the Minecraft enchanting language

[indigo solar]

It took months before people understood how Axion worked, they'll find it eventually but usually I find them a lot faster and some (like Likely) ignore it just because I'm me

[white fossil]

its pixelated/censored

you can kinda make out what it says under it

[true mauve]

Im nice and didnt show his whole crashout, i pixelated it like you do peoples faces in video lol

[karmic chasm]

Axion on who

[indigo solar]

Not all but a very large portion, more than use your info

[devout void]

Now most of the player understand weapon ability element or any thing that can help them I think

Just saying im sure they can find on their own

But thank you to help a lot of player too

The most important thing is that no one spreads false information and that choices are precise because everything depends on the content, the dice are expensive, and time is precious.

[indigo solar]

On everyone if you're running with a good Helhest

[karmic chasm]

I mean you’ve seen me have similar crash outs about being stuck on mobile… Pretty much my only excuse for having slow times

Also, AFK occasionally

[bold thunder]

if only anyone was actually good at playing helhest

[twilit thistle]

Can I enchant bows? Would flame 1 break solar shields

[true mauve]

This was the crashout that made me lose respect for someone 😭

[karmic chasm]

Flame II because the developers clearly hate bows for some reason

[rotund raptor]

Are the 1st and 2nd artefact overshield
And 3rd and 4th piercing good choice for attal?

[karmic chasm]

Mine DM’s or his

[indigo solar]

I'm not saying they can't find it on their own, I'm just saying usually they end up running what I said anyways so idk where the "he's frequently wrong about meta" stuff is coming from

[true mauve]

His crashout gave me a new view, didn't know real dude until then

[indigo solar]

Calming token is nearly always bad

[cobalt beacon]

I mean you would have more credibility if you actually played the endgame with said characters

And said builds

[rotund raptor]

Which would be better at that slot?

[karmic chasm]

Because I’ve temporarily recanted many of my crashout statements @true mauve

Still feel limited without a controller or mnk, but that’s a handicap I can accept lol

[devout void]

Ok maybe Helhest was a bit tricky and text have a weird translation or some stuff were bugged

Still a new artifact that looked nice so yea they will use it, also gold thumb help

But a bit weird from Netease to give 0 thumb on Solar

For Jarren, Maru it's more easy to choose a BiS

[bold thunder]

I mean if you remember release, 99% of people put on the new artifact and saw it wasn't tripling their damage, ran to discord or reddit to complain, got told it was just bugged and not working, and took it off

[true mauve]

I think Clife said it best, you are the most up to date wikipedia we have right down to Alpha screenshots and lore history stuff. You test everything first and of course come to conclusion about what is BiS for damage. Dmg isnt always the anawer though so you Test then the Pros Playtest. You have good base info to launch from but ultimately you need the Pros input to determine if it is really meta.

[indigo solar]

IMO I'd run Abundant Blazar/Ring of Conversion/Inverted Fury/Obstructing Perturbation

[bold thunder]

In that specific case Taniks is actually a big part of why this discord had accurate info on axion so quickly

[true mauve]

There is no cut dry simple 1 build does all

[indigo solar]

Again, who says this is the only acc I play on

[rotund raptor]

Ok thanks

[true mauve]

It is all USE CASE

[stone ether]

As far as placement goes should I go based off of the photo that was posted earlier or is there some flexibility with placement?

[indigo solar]

I run Akernan's acc half the time too when I don't want to be f2p

[devout void]

But even if you wrote it here, they surely already knew, right? I know plenty of top players who don't have this Discord server and reached the same conclusion 10 hours after the new character's release. I'm not criticizing your work, no worries, I'm just wondering if Likely can't find something, or if you think they copy everything from you

No one has exclusivity or world first choice of artifact right

[true mauve]

Account sharing

[twilit thistle]

[true mauve]

You guys complain about exploits and cheese but allow account shares 💀

Is the top10 just 1 bro running everyones characters?

[indigo solar]

They never give elements thumbs up fsr

[true mauve]

Same HH player on 10 diff accounts

[cobalt beacon]

Ning🤷

[devout void]

Yea actually if you want people shut up Taniks you could play and proove ok this is better you see

Practice range is a different game that's why he didnt agree about Super, but its ok now you explain that the choice depend of the content we play

[devout void]

They should then

[indigo solar]

Fill central 8 with Muqam
Replace one of the middle front corners with stone hoof
Fill the rest of the map with Muqam
Replace the other central front corner with stone hoof
Start replacing Muqam with level 3 anesthesia from the back

[true mauve]

Fr do i use Arby or RC?

[cobalt beacon]

The issue is you try to tell taniks something and then he denies you 3x before he goes to test it😂

[cobalt beacon]

Arby 90% of the time👺

[indigo solar]

I don't think they copy from me, but I know the Torrents' group does bc they literally ask me what they should be running in their server, and es9/Krumb/Threats see/react to my tests in the Insomnia server

[devout void]

The most easy for you to build

Arby need more $ maybe, there is 2 helhest with different job so up to you, Arby carry the run

[true mauve]

Grouptesting? Why test something already been tested

[bold thunder]

Is there a reason you put hoof in the front instead of back? Or just random/personal preference?

[indigo solar]

One person trying to use scores to prove something is better is a terrible idea when 90% of performance is team comp, mechanical skill, and how well the team plays with each other

[stone ether]

Perfect. So I don't need to worry about upgrading Muqam at all? What about Stone Hoof? Should I put any attention on upgrading those towers? Sorry for all the questions I just appreciate the help.

[true mauve]

Oh, my HH T0 haha was more agreeing about the content thing you said 😅

[indigo solar]

Anesthesia seems to have difficulty targeting enemies very close to it when it's in the front

[bold thunder]

Interesting, good to know

[cobalt beacon]

You are legit the only one that does this btw

[sharp talon]

it would be cool if you could adjust targetting mechanics on the tower like in bloons td on bulwark

[cobalt beacon]

You keep bringing up torrents to prove your point

When it legit makes 0 sense

[devout void]

Maybe I mean, beat Likely by using the super to kill something, for example, that will make him close his mouth

[indigo solar]

Leave Muqam at level 1, the higher level it is the less polymer you get per enemy bc it takes more shots to kill. Stone hoof can be upgraded but it's so expensive for not a ton of return so I recommend waiting until you've upgraded all of your anesthesias (it costs 8k to replace a Muqam with a lv 3 anesthesia)

[true mauve]

Well tbf I am on Super arti not Sig and I am struggling

[indigo solar]

? I only brought up torrents (and other players) when yall were saying other players don't care about what I say

[twilit thistle]

Do you all expect Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN] to be perfect? Some of this is getting too personal btw.

[indigo solar]

When they in fact do

[true mauve]

I use my super twice in 1 cal ops run or 1 time on a boss

[tight talon]

is alright Taniks, I still vouch for you

[devout void]

It's not so deep actually Im sure you can even do a crazy score with a mythic

[cobalt beacon]

Youve legit brought up torrents score to say im wrong plenty of times

[sharp talon]

it helps quite a bit on expanse tho i think

[cobalt beacon]

Or try to compare mythicnexus to me 😂

[bold thunder]

I think "some" is generous, 90% of the arguments here so far have been personal attacks on Taniks...

[karmic chasm]

Yea I’m on super with Jaren and as much as I like the feel when I pop it, it’s absolutely terrible in expanse

[indigo solar]

you brought up nexus

[stone ether]

Awesome! I am gonna give this a go here shortly. Thank you for the tips

[cobalt beacon]

You legit said he beat me on every leaderboard 💀💀💀

[devout void]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-jose-mourinho-man-utd-manchester-united-gif-5177883364747657255

When torrent post a x3 because of my data

[karmic chasm]

In season 0 maybe

[cobalt beacon]

We legit hit the first 3x kill this cycle before torrents😩

[true mauve]

I dont want a crazy good score though. I want to get the best score and start being on leaderboards. I have a name change coming and everything, goodbye to 🌽 🐕

[devout void]

Im not sure if NA can understand your joke likely

[sharp talon]

i meant having optimal 4/4 substats helps quite a bit on expanse. sig boost etc. but super isn't that terrible in expanse i think because it resets every three rounds or something

[indigo solar]

Ohh when you were saying I had no clue what I was talking about with runners and I told you the teams that do what I say for runners beat you

Yeah brought them up specifically there bc that group discord is the only place I've shared the Jaren tech

[twilit thistle]

If it continues, @ Cody or @ thatdonfc. I am halfway asleep.

[indigo solar]

Never got around to sharing in insomnia so the other main group that gets info from me doesn't know it

[indigo solar]

And how many times have you gotten a better score bc of their vids lmao

[devout void]

Yea of course super can help here sometime, they are arguing about top 0,001% speedrun tech

But yea for calam you just run, I share a clip of jarren ult early in the ventilation

[true mauve]

I do 1/4 of a boss health instead of 3/16 wooo! I love it.

[indigo solar]

Notice I explicitly said super isn't the best for calam

[cobalt beacon]

How many people have our videos helped when the game came out on early calams and you still said ah you prob dont even know half the calam shortcuts😂😂

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-cat-rigby-gato-coqueto-rico-gif-4061476440942373994

[indigo solar]

Bc you don't lmao

[sharp talon]

at least in expanse even without matching super boost on my slot 4 and inverted fury, it does decent damage with executioner

[indigo solar]

You don't even know what you don't know

There's way more to this game than you think

[true mauve]

2min chat cd is wild. I run Wpn/Solar/Ability/Super on both 3 and 4

[cobalt beacon]

Legit all of foundry that people used to get last scores were invented by us im talking about syd me zombie burkey azaliah zayam. Burkeys viewers helped too

[indigo solar]

Several obscure movement/ammo/oob techs, including several I can't even do consistently bc I'm on touchscreen

[twilit thistle]

[vast arch]

The real meta for Jaren is Weapon/Ability/Solar/Arc end of discussion

[indigo solar]

I've seen the vids and I'm telling you there's more

[sharp talon]

Lmao i actually have that on my slot 4 right now😂

[devout void]

0 im too bad to make the wolf strat work

[tight talon]

.>

[indigo solar]

Also re-invented*

[true mauve]

Ok wth Tanniks doesnt have a chat 2min cooldown like the rest of us? 💀

[signal spade]

you guys have 2 min cds? nvm me too, this chats dead aint nobody got time for that 👋

[tight talon]

holy yap, gg 2 mins of cooldown. cyall in 2027 at this rate xDD

[indigo solar]

Is slowdown really 2m?

Damn

[devout void]

Can you teach and make a youtube actually instead of fighting here, I will sub 🙏🏻

[vast arch]

Ok, let's move on from the argument so I can lower the slowmode back down, deal?

[white fossil]

this server is so contradictory, its like they dont want people to converse about the game in here 🥀 2min cooldown lmfao

[indigo solar]

I have a YouTube but they're all unlisted and either issakis records or bug reports lmao 😭

[true mauve]

You and Likely should just not engage anymore. Its getting to be worse than that time with Yliche. I understand you are smart and know alot about game but it looks like you are throwing an ego around when you namedrop and stuff. You were a cool guy but my view on you has changed alot, yes you know things but that isnt always whats important

[bold thunder]

They don't want people to argue for literal hours about who is smarter, which is fair I think

[tight talon]

wishful thinking. Can we do something about deliberately defending terrible takes? i think that will do wonders :>

[devout void]

No but really if you have more shortcut than what everyone do it's interesting

Lets not gate keep the fun I also share and report every oob or bug

[indigo solar]

I only namedrop when they start saying my advice is useless in leaderboards so I give proof of it being used for leaderboards

[white fossil]

that is fair but what happened to muting or talking to the people causing the issues, never understood punishing everyone for the actions of a few yk

[twilit thistle]

every minute it continues it should double 😂

[errant narwhal]

the real meta is to use xuan wei

[indigo solar]

Anyways, moving on

[signal spade]

cant you just add chat limits on a role and just put the timeout role on someone, 2 minutes we might as well start email accounts and use outlook to converse

[indigo solar]

Sparrow cancelling with Xuan is peak

[vast arch]

typically we try to fix the problems without jumping straight to mutes

[true mauve]

I understand, it looks terrible though. You need to stand on your own 2 feet not on the backs of others. Respect goes a long way and I understand you spend crazy time testing but those guys also spend crazy time testing just diff stuff.
Im done, enjoy your days everyone

[bold thunder]

When are we getting an iron banner map like that one overwatch map with a pit in the middle that you can drag people into with the chain? I want a xuan wei crucible meta

[rough sedge]

Anybody fully upgraded the symmetry yet? Worth it?

[tight talon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gambling-gambler-gif-572068894331490223

[white fossil]

making the chat cooldown 2 minutes per message for everyone in the server isnt fixing the problem though man 😭

[errant narwhal]

tomorrow, my dad is john netease

[vast arch]

actually, it did

[white fossil]

at least its back to 5s now, much better

[tight talon]

Uh

[random steeple]

I mean we a bit kidding about Destiny Rising Manager Pro Coach 2026 and after that u literraly namedroping
Do you have albums with collectable card of this players btw?

who of them are legendary one or mythic?

[tight talon]

yay speed

[cobalt beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[white fossil]

it didnt cuz one of the people arguing didnt even have the timeout?? cmon bro

[signal spade]

arguing theorycraft vs feelycraft vs actual data is a waste of energy anyway. ... this gun has a .5ttk - WELL IT KILLS SLOWER THAN THE GUN YOU SAID HAS 1ttk FOR ME IN THIS STRIKE WITH THIS MODIFIER ON THIS CHARACTER WITH THIS BUFF AT THIS POWER VS THIS MOB - ok.

[indigo solar]

You can get unlimited stacks on enemies by jumping on a sparrow before a grapple pulls the enemy in, this is easily the most useful tech in the game

[bold thunder]

Honey the mods told you to stop like 5 minutes ago

[vast arch]

😭

[tight talon]

parry this, imagine just not killing them and going to boss room smh

[random steeple]

I did't notice that my bad

[white fossil]

woah thats fire

[signal spade]

ok but why cant you just grapple the enemy then drive around with them behind you like a kidnapping

[random steeple]

not even expect that's moderates somehow, we really have mods here?

[signal spade]

that would be way better tech

[indigo solar]

This is what I was originally trying to do when I discovered it lmao

[errant narwhal]

and thats why hes the goat

[bold thunder]

Yes there are mods here

[twilit thistle]

Your tax returns for all the advice you gave the community is only a few days away.

[bold thunder]

Tan literally kills everything faster than the new characters because I don't have the new characters and can't use them, checkmate Tan's meta 🤷

[indigo solar]

TRUE

Seriously tho tan needs a balance pass, he was strong bc of Izzy but they nerfed it into the floor and now he just feels bad

[random steeple]

is it hired from community or devs team one?
because i have some questions about rules of another calamity which still did't asnwered

[indigo solar]

A couple were NetEase but newer ones are from application

[devout void]

Please lets not move on until Taniks share all the shortcut , oob or whatever still exist in calam

Why are we gate keeping stuff 🥀 he said he know more, Im so curious now

[vast arch]

No, we are not employees of Netease. We are volunteers

[twilit thistle]

#💁│ingame-tech-support

[indigo solar]

I'll share some of the less exploit-y ones later but I'm on the way to work rn

[keen cave]

Not working, bot is answering on both e-mail and requests 😄

[indigo solar]

Remind me in like 3h

[devout void]

Ok reddit

[bold thunder]

Similarly if it's discord question that needs mod attention #📥│contact-mod

[devout void]

Didnt work apparently the bot is drunk

[twilit thistle]

React using 🔨 is the fire alarm

[true mauve]

Nuuu only I got hammer permission

[devout void]

You dont know /remind me ?

[indigo solar]

I mean I was just asking you to remind me bc I'm probably gonna forget

Launching new features on Wednesday so fairly busy at work rn

[bold thunder]

Yeah I feel like if they want him to be meta in wider content outside of his niche, he needs some major incentive to offset his lack of movement abilities
(Not sure whether they care about balancing the base 3 though)

[devout void]

Yea sure
It's ok you can share the worst stuff so they get fix, it's not the point ? Make the game fine

Or I will never share the oob we did in calam and maybe keep my score if no big drama

[devout void]

Oh you work for destiny rising

[twilit thistle]

In game has it too

[bold thunder]

At release that incentive was BiS dps, but now that helhest is comparable his only real use is for damage related cases where linears aren't great
(Or where you need a high dps character with survivability, but atm we don't really have that need in the meta)

[karmic chasm]

I’m only ok with cheese when it benefits me and not top players

[true mauve]

Nah already learned dont share anything or people will insta call you a cheater and want you banned

[indigo solar]

The worst stuff I report privately, so more people don't exploit/complain about the exploit

[devout void]

If they fix its fine
But sometime the fix happen only because we have a drama

And except Contest, they usually clean calam leadboard since first Foundry

[indigo solar]

See: sparrow racing
Everybody was complaining about the exploit when everyone knew how to do it, but when it was just one guy people were mainly just wondering how tf he did it

[karmic chasm]

I wasn’t complaining. Helped me speedrun the rewards

Also watching people crashout was cool

[indigo solar]

Honestly I just wish [REDACTED] hadn't complained so much about oobing, this game used to be anything goes like D1/2

They only patched the super serious stuff like being able to permanently cancel the effects of kill barriers

[devout void]

What you mean

You want oob here ? People already complain so much for unstuck

[indigo solar]

Yes

[visual rain]

oobs are very cool when it doesnt directly affect others (calamity)

[indigo solar]

People complain about unstuck significantly more bc it isn't clear what NetEase is okay with

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar

[errant narwhal]

i just want every leaderboard to put me at #1 without me doing anything

is that so much to ask for

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-i-like-the-stock-i-like-it-i-like-it-alot-i-like-that-gif-10632380168135068679

I need to raise my Jaren power but I can’t get better artifacts to drop for the life of me

[devout void]

😭😭 it will be too crazy
Cant imagine if calam was oob meta

I play Destiny for 10 years but in this game I dont know, the player base is so different, they will complain soooo much

Dont know if its good for a mode about so much rewards

[errant narwhal]

i think i have perfect rolls on my jaren, havent looked in a while

at least for 3/4

[sharp talon]

did you use dice or get lucky?

[stark forge]

arc and void chaos should drop better jaren arts

[errant narwhal]

lucky

nvm my third isnt

[signal spade]

its high noon somewhere

[simple plank]

guys if Arby is so good why doesn't Tan run Borealis ???? It's the same gun !!!

[karmic chasm]

I have a 4/4 slot 4, 3/4 slot 3 🙄
It’s annoying

[karmic chasm]

This gotta be ragebait

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/trigun-vash-the-stampede-gif-26101029

[simple plank]

it's a joke if Im wrong but if it's a good argument then Ill wait to see people plead the case

Borealis does seem interesting

[signal spade]

any gun with alt fire or hold R to do anything is cringe and needs to be nuked to orbit

[karmic chasm]

I think it’s the fact that arby does it better and without switching elements. Borealis is a good utility gun though, I didn’t hate it.

[dusty spire]

Bor is an amazing shield pop weapon elite or greater

[errant narwhal]

Same

[errant narwhal]

bc swapping elements is annoying and arby does more damage and buffs everyone

[karmic chasm]

Although is a 4/4 with super. I know that’s not ideal but I’ll probably keep super in case supers ever get a buff

[dusty spire]

Arb is basically a piercing shinka Popa and a debuffer outside of that

[simple plank]

I guess Borealis doesn't have Arby C2 for non shielded enemies

[errant narwhal]

Also borealis takes multiple shots to pop shinkas

[simple plank]

Its normal catalyst is ok at least, giving more raw dmg

[dusty spire]

You wanna hit elementary matches with bor that’s it thing

[signal spade]

i can see the rage now, they nerf linears by like 40% but buff attal and kabrs weapon mastery by like 100% and all the helhests lose their minds

[errant narwhal]

pop shields than back to primary

[dusty spire]

And create the aoe explosion, works well with elites that have creeps lingering around them

[dusty spire]

Exactly, unless you need trouble tap rule lol

[simple plank]

it owuld be peak

[errant narwhal]

id be happy i could stop playing hh

once we get black hammer/spindle maybe snipers will be good

[bold thunder]

Part of the answer to this is that there are just better snipers than there are linears. Helhest compensates by having stronger dps related abilities than Tan

[signal spade]

volley is stupid

i said it

if helhest had to aim it might be ok to do that damage

[simple plank]

ur right

[dusty spire]

they all work well…it’s mostly situational

[bitter estuary]

Balls

[dusty spire]

You got them all maxed? Or talking from a what if perspective?

Btw any of you oob players reached this green door thing?

[bold thunder]

Do you mean me? If so it's a mix of my own personal testing with my weapons and a significant amount of math/data collection I commissioned from other people in the community when helhest came out

[signal spade]

anyone else get irrationally mad when they look at the pack hunt map and see their pack members walking into obvious walls/water

[bold thunder]

I don't know specifics about arby, but generally even if tan could use linears he wouldn't, because without Helhest's high ability dps they generally aren't as high dps as snipers

[hasty ocean]

Diabolical graphics man's getting 20 frames a second 😭😭

[dusty spire]

😩 it don’t play like that though lol

[stark forge]

and i already open the encounter node, wtf spend 3 energy there lmao not the rock next to it

[hasty ocean]

Jk

[dusty spire]

Ikik 🤓

[signal spade]

😭

[signal spade]

this might be one of the least exciting weapons in any destiny game

[sharp talon]

free photon w

[devout void]

Curious how they turn it good since it's a pve game, in destiny it was good only for the pvp camper head glitching across the map

[signal spade]

the catalysts better make it do like some crazy thing

[stark forge]

if its free i doubt it will bring any crazy stuff

[devout void]

If you have arbalest, qb or izanagi

Why play this yes, need to be strong

At least its free
Start in 2 days

[thin valve]

whats that

[bitter estuary]

Balls

[devout void]

Jade rabbit

[stark forge]

i will claim trial gun and stop

[bitter estuary]

A new gun basically

[bold thunder]

Even if the exotic is free, the mats aren't. Good new exotics incentivize sinking resources which incentivizes the black market, which can be paid for with real money

[errant narwhal]

anyone else in the act 2 waiting room?

[bold thunder]

So it still makes them more money if it's good than if it's bad

[thin valve]

It becomes so boring when season act lasts so long

[stark forge]

at least we got to hoard more resources

[thin valve]

Im tired of hoarding😭

I had nothing to do and got my attal to 73k

[stark forge]

im bored of hoarding and decided to get max acclaim

[errant narwhal]

I’m not that bored yet but I’ll get there

[thin valve]

Most of my characters have all met requirements for gold medals, i just have to do missions

(even lazy for that)

[tight talon]

100% agree. Whoever said they didnt get use out of their characters should quit smh

[robust sequoia]

Yes. After pulling both weapon skins on first 5 enagrams, I am waiting for BP 50 and then act 2…..

[random steeple]

I would be surprised if they do that

[karmic chasm]

Last time I did this, I didn’t get a single act 2 ornament

But yes I am

[tight talon]

tbh, Kabr gets more damage out of Scouts than Linears. No amount of copium is gonna change that.

Attal gets hurt thats for sure

[naive ingot]

The glow still keeps failing...

[karmic chasm]

Don’t ask me how fast I got it

[burnt tendon]

I can’t get past like wave 7 on the solo bulwark now. Idk what the deal is

[bitter estuary]

arby is like

two tailed fox but it does actual damage

[burnt tendon]

I don’t have stone hoof but still. I have the anastysia star 2

[naive ingot]

It kept failing last season too.

[karmic chasm]

That’s sick!! Could be sweet on Tan maybe. Or Umeko

[errant narwhal]

I hate queuing randoms for calops

[tight talon]

use Slag Launcher and Can Can along with Anasthesia

[errant narwhal]

Got a second T6 HH and she kills nothing then leaves in the ball room

[karmic chasm]

I haven’t had luck either. Tho the last run was a throw bc I ran out of heavy ammo

[stark forge]

dont hate embrace cal ops mm

[errant narwhal]

I’m always running out of heavy bc randoms suck lol

[burnt tendon]

Interesting. Where should I place them?

[karmic chasm]

Yea like I had to use it in room 3 sooooo

[random steeple]

just never do it, it's useless

[bitter estuary]

that one 75.3k t6 xuan wei in emea

[errant narwhal]

I had to use it in the 2nd bc I killed my left piecing and the big servitor and the other one didn’t even pop the other piercing yet

[random steeple]

I did't mm in calam ops with randoms like 4+ months already

[tight talon]

Just make sure Slag hits first so the target is scorched. If Scorch doesn't happen thatmuch, use Salsa 23 instead.

Place Anastheisa after that. Place Can Can so maximum towers are covered

[errant narwhal]

no one on rn

[karmic chasm]

Oh I call that room 3 because room one is entrance, room two is shank and piercing stairwell. I’m probably wrong but that’s how I talk about it.

[random steeple]

just no reason to do it with randoms anyway
u can't get anything good with them, zero chances

[errant narwhal]

I’m just trying to get out of relegation

[burnt tendon]

🫡 🫡 🫡 🫡

[random steeple]

literally zero, better going for lfg spam for hour, even that would help more

[errant narwhal]

We just ranked up the other night and I havent played since

[karmic chasm]

Same. We got close ish once

[sharp talon]

i got 385k this cycle with randoms, not an amazing score, but depending on the zone that might've been enough. so randoms aren't that bad

[karmic chasm]

Is today the last day for it

I haven’t logged in

[sharp talon]

nah its 1d 19h for me

[stark forge]

2 more days

[karmic chasm]

Thanks

[simple plank]

do we know Rabbit's kit

[devout void]

Probably strong pvp umeko if pvp wasnt dead

[twilit thistle]

😭

[devout void]

No

Invis umeko across the map 3 tapping with jade rabbit

[indigo solar]

Was very very bad in PvP and PvE in tests

Also Polaris 3 taps btw

Two tap with explosion

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar

[indigo solar]

Yep I'm filming stuff rn

Waiting for group to fill

[devout void]

Then no point to give us if they change nothing, in destiny it one of the best pvp weapon on big map

[indigo solar]

Yeah hopefully they make changes

I mean its catalyst will give it rof so who knows

[devout void]

And I know polaris do that so again, no point if it's similar

[indigo solar]

But it's disabled in PvP

[bold thunder]

Polaris my beloved

[twilit thistle]

focus

[bold thunder]

Seems kind of underwhelming tbh

I guess it's just 1 band

[twilit thistle]

Somehow I am in the top 20 Umekos on both servers.

[tight talon]

wait does ingame ai tell u about weapons before they are released? xd

[indigo solar]

It's patched but yeah

[indigo solar]

It was a big leak when it came out

[dusty spire]

In the jade rabbit a scout rifle ?

[indigo solar]

Also had some of the ahamkara weapons

[dusty spire]

Kabr gift

[dusty spire]

I’ll take it

[devout void]

So they give the weapon with some catalyst and lvl 10

[indigo solar]

Aw man they patched the infinite ammo exploit :(

[dusty spire]

Ain’t that a good thing?

[indigo solar]

Yeah probably

They also patched being able to damage immune enemies

[safe knot]

Does the secret Crota easter egg Is connected with the cheese from D1 when you had to unplug your ethternet cable to stunlock him?

[indigo solar]

No, it's about using finishers to yeet him off the edge

[karmic chasm]

That’s funny asl

[indigo solar]

You could use it to two-phase pit boss :(

[safe knot]

Oh, ok

[karmic chasm]

I’m pretty sure if we had enough damage output that would still be possible. Theoretically. You can overflow damage into the third phase of that boss. I’ve come really close to two phasing it before

[vast arch]

next time just invite me, problem solved

[karmic chasm]

Essentially if you could do most of second phase in 1 second and all of third phase in 1 second

[vast arch]

I think they patched in a hard limit on the health gate.

[twilit thistle]

Instructions unclear, proceeding to invite and Q sparrow racing

[karmic chasm]

That makes sense then. Bc we hit it HARD

[devout void]

But yea for x3 it help to put pit boss a 1 hp

[pulsar coral]

Maybe it will shred rapid fire, could be good for void rapid fire content. I’m coping lol

[karmic chasm]

I do like using Rossi wall on the servitors- the issue is it only hits the desired 3 of 6 from one particular platform and I don’t know which one it is

[indigo solar]

You can't two phase, he gets forced immunity at like 1% health

[errant narwhal]

you able to run some? lol

[vast arch]

Yeah, I'm expert 1 tho

[karmic chasm]

So it’s a stupid arbitrary immunity

[vast arch]

I knew it

[indigo solar]

Yes

[errant narwhal]

oop well I can try to help you get m1 lol

[karmic chasm]

I never got him that low but we’ve hit him for most of his health in certain strikes and I just thought maybe with enough damage we could kill him

[vast arch]

Was trying to see how high I could get with just mm

[indigo solar]

You used to be able to in tests but yeah they patched that now

But there used to be a way by exploiting network to get a few more seconds of damage after enemy went immune but that's patched too some time in the past couple months

[errant narwhal]

If you wanna run some lmk, I can play Jaren or HH

[karmic chasm]

Fun isn’t allowed Netease. We get it.

[indigo solar]

If you intentionally spiked your ping high enough to desync from server but not so high it disconnects you, you could keep firing and when you resynced with server it would apply all of the damage you did instantaneously, even if the boss was immune

[karmic chasm]

Oh I saw this happen lol

[indigo solar]

Could do something similar for infinite ammo

[karmic chasm]

Infinite QB sounds insane 💀

[indigo solar]

Yeah the damage and stuff still works but no longer damages immune enemies

[devout void]

All this energy but netease dont have a team to test their contest rip

[simple plank]

every 12th precision hit combines 15 jade rabbit rounds into one Jadezanagi round for 1 Helhestillion damage

Netease you've done it again

[indigo solar]

Real

Why do we have invisible thralls but you're more concerned with patching a Haven oob

And there are still like 12 others

[devout void]

They should give you a few lumia leaf

[indigo solar]

Hold up lemme find smth

[karmic chasm]

And promotes you to Master instantly

[devout void]

No QA team

[simple plank]

Exactly it’s peak

[errant narwhal]

welp tried masters mm again got 2 jarens that were alright but ignored ads completely

[indigo solar]

But yeah QA is severely lacking

[errant narwhal]

they should hire you

[devout void]

Thank you

[errant narwhal]

Meant Taniks but honestly you too

[indigo solar]

I asked Maru about bug bounties, she reacted but never followed up

[twilit thistle]

What rank r u

[indigo solar]

I guess they decided since we're doing it for free there's no need to incentivise us

[errant narwhal]

That’d be a nice incentive if they don’t want a full QA team

[rain condor]

Who needs a QA team when dedicated players are doing it with their free time is probably their thought

[sinful totem]

Woah no

[vast arch]

Expert 1 but I haven't played any matchs here yet

[devout void]

Good pastebin
I was expecting the shortcut 🥀

[devout void]

I was replying to him
I cant do this job 😭

[twilit thistle]

🤔 Jaren? I have a t6 hh at 74k. Idk if I’ll have time till this evening tho.

[potent inlet]

On jah

[indigo solar]

Here's a few, still running trying to get maps, they also patched a few

(The fulminator one only works if everyone goes up or unstucks/death warps, since it needs all 3 up there to spawn boss before elevator finishes)

There's also an oob on foundry but everything is invisible so I'm still working on how to actually make it to boss area

[delicate mango]

What your guys thoughts on the jade rabbit coming in DR

[twilit thistle]

“Was very very bad in PvP and PvE in tests” -Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN]

[karmic chasm]

Was it in the ball room? I find doing one ball and then Ads is good on one side

[potent inlet]

BA BALL BALL

[delicate mango]

oof really

[sharp talon]

oh you can walk straight out of the map on foundry

theres no wall here in the black spot

[devout void]

Good job

[indigo solar]

Not in calam, there's a death barrier

[errant narwhal]

They didn’t kill ads in any

[sharp talon]

i did it in calam once because someone was trolling. did they patch it?

[errant narwhal]

the game asking if i want to launch stuff solo when matchmaking takes a while is one of my biggest pet peeves

[sharp talon]

this out of bounds stuff is trippy

[indigo solar]

Yeah, that's the mini bridge part right

Kill barrier if you go too far to the sides, and kill barrier if you take the bottom ones

Unsure about top but I'd assumed there was one there too

[sharp talon]

was that a recent change? i think i did it last month and how i discovered it (teammate was afk in calamity)

[errant narwhal]

no i don’t want to solo deathsingers thanks tho

[sharp talon]

im not sure let me screenshot the full area

this room idk waht u call it

[indigo solar]

Oh nvm thought you were talking about the area right outside that

[sharp talon]

i couldnt believe u could just walk out the map like that when i first discovered it LOL

[scenic wigeon]

Isn't that the tank hanger?

Hmmm, wonder what it says

[sharp talon]

i hope she comes back i want to do her story

[stark forge]

its just another copy of wrinkled note

[scenic wigeon]

Description is what makes me ask whats on it?

[stark forge]

wrinkled note

[errant narwhal]

i wish crota dropped other exotics lol

[indigo solar]

Truly don't know why they didn't drop him with 3 exotics, or at least give him the onslaught pool with symmetry as featured weapon for every encounter

[errant narwhal]

Yeah that would’ve made a lot more sense

Especially cause they handed symmetry out like candy during another calamity

[thin valve]

Im dumb. When i got first one straight from first encounter, i crafted 2 to max it out and then got like 4 copies💀

[rain condor]

If it was like D2 I would definitely try to at least lol

[errant narwhal]

I crafted 2 before the raid came out lol

[errant narwhal]

True

[hoary agate]

Hey Taniks. I skimmed the Jaren super movement stacking conversation yesterday.

Do you know if Wolf also has stacking movement speed for Wolf’s super by chance?

@indigo solar

[indigo solar]

No, Wolf with Super + Butchery made it to here, Wolf with just Butchery speed boost made it to the red circled spot. This is about 60m so difference is likely due to human error starting the sprint rather than actual speed difference

[short locust]

[twilit thistle]

[hoary agate]

Thanks for the test.

Weird that it works for Jaren but not Wolf despite being similar bonuses and phrasing.

[indigo solar]

Agreed, which is why I was so sure it didn't work for Jaren

[dusty spire]

basic reward drops? aint done my farm yet but its good to know its not a difficult one lol

[lilac seal]

🍿

[pulsar coral]

Symmetry good?

[indigo solar]

It's okay but not worth running over other stuff usually