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[livid pelican]

if it works like d2 then you prob need two swords

[delicate turtle]

Rip

[vast sky]

No

[delicate turtle]

Man why are so many people matchmaking crota and have no idea what they’re doing

[vast sky]

Challenge or normal?

[delicate turtle]

Normal

Challenge doesn’t have matchmaking I thought

[cursive depot]

challenge cant be matchmade

[vast sky]

How do bros not know how to do it on normal

[vast sky]

Oh wait you right my bad

[pulsar coral]

What's the stuff I'm hearing about the mode being deleted? What mode and why?

[vast sky]

Challenge mode gets deleted

[bitter estuary]

either that or bridge

and in order to get impact and piercing mods respectively you need to grind those stages over and over again

[cursive depot]

hard mode is just harder normal now

[delicate turtle]

Idk man but these guys won’t do anything. They just take chalice and run off

[vast sky]

Hilarious

[pulsar coral]

Oh what the
Is it just being made easier since there's less than 600 clears?

[delicate turtle]

I just wanna farm symmetry 😭

[sharp talon]

its because leaderboard rush is over

[pulsar coral]

Ah ok

5 second chat cooldown? Used to pray for times like this

[vast sky]

No they delete the mode

[bitter estuary]

not worth it ngl unless you have a godroll calming token ig

[pulsar coral]

They better give extremely generous refunds

[delicate turtle]

Idek what calming token is mate

[bitter estuary]

3rd slot artefact

[vast sky]

The normal mode stays, just like eclipse. Literally the entire community wants it to stay

[delicate turtle]

What would a groll of it look like

[pulsar coral]

I see, I assume everything will be changed in tomorrow's maintenance?

[vast sky]

Just look at the timer duration on the challenge mode in game idk the timer off the top of my head

[pulsar coral]

Alr thanks for the info

[bitter estuary]

uhhhh i don't remember i think signature and super boost is up there, idk weapon damage bonus is good or not

i don't main umeko i've only used it really in crota's end 4th encounter

[vast sky]

Oh heavenly father

Bear witness to the strength of your creation

I will smite the casual players

[signal spade]

Do people still get the free symmetry from challenge or what's the point right now

[thin valve]

Why people want that gun so bad. Got it 3 times, maxed it, its mid.

[bitter estuary]

??????

it's great for sustained dps

[vast sky]

Well band 2 doesnt work and the gun is kinda cracked on kabr cause he is the scout weapon platform cause of how his shield works for scouts specifically

[thin valve]

idk bout that one cus never played him, titans are meh

[vast sky]

Shooting through his shield has a damage buff seperately for lfrs and scouts and for scouts its like a 90% buff where as lfrs i believe are only 15

[bitter estuary]

i think per clip you can get like 1.3 million dmg with this

[thin valve]

Idk bout symmetry but my mate was cooking with arbalest on him

[bitter estuary]

i might be wrong though since i'm basing it off someone who tested it here

[vast sky]

Its 80/30 my bad

[sharp talon]

arby is good but i dont have helhest 🙁 so im not gonna buy bp i think. or is it still worth? idk

[thin valve]

lemme test rq

[vast sky]

I can do damn near with only band 1 without upgrades on the other tree

[bitter estuary]

you can break impact shinkas with it so it's worth it

[sharp talon]

when is it good? is c2 enough?

[bitter estuary]

lowk cracked ngl

[bitter estuary]

cat 3 is nice for boss dmg but cat 2 is fine

[karmic chasm]

Someone send me 18 boats so I can T4

[vast sky]

Cat 3 doesnt work on symmetry

[vast sky]

King you gave a god damn month

[karmic chasm]

I’m not a very patient person

[bitter estuary]

no i mean arbalest

[vast sky]

Oh nvm

[bitter estuary]

no calming token
oh

[thin valve]

120k dps, 470k dmg in 5 sec with maxed out symmetry but no artifacts

[bitter estuary]

that's insane ngl

[vast sky]

Exacto

[thin valve]

Kinda gonna be good if i got good artifacts but idc about that dude with shields

guess the gun🔥

[vast sky]

Granted my arti's kinda cracked

[worldly hazel]

Arby?

[karmic chasm]

Royale

[stark forge]

latitude

[violet sonnet]

just rank master 1 in c ops thats almost 10 draws no?

nvm its like 6 i think

[karmic chasm]

See, around the age of 13, I was diagnosed with a terminal disease known as Skillissuealitus

I’m in expert 2

[violet sonnet]

just find some t6 helhest to carry you

all you need is a t6 helhest and 2 jarens with 2 braincells

the pit is like the most free strike imo

[karmic chasm]

Yea that’s essentially how I got out of expert 1. The promotion zones have been frustrating recently for me

[violet sonnet]

id help but unfortunaly EU Affix

[karmic chasm]

I disagree tbh. Fulminator is only hard bc you have to actually kill ads in the boss zone

[violet sonnet]

cause im just gona sit in master 1 demotion each cycle

and then carry @tight talon and a random to master 1

im content with my 5 clusters every 2 weeks

or well 6 if you count the one for 1 mil points

[thin valve]

✅

[bitter estuary]

at cat 3?

[karmic chasm]

I wish arby sucked so I wouldn’t have to consider building it

[thin valve]

C2 for now, will c3 next bp

C2+all columns

[bitter estuary]

when arby didn't suck i was like

god damn 💀

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

i fully maxed out rc/qb for what

[thin valve]

Thats with no artifacts btw

[karmic chasm]

I’ll just max Royale Contravene and live in denial

[rotund raptor]

But btw cat 3 arby and cat e RC which is better

[karmic chasm]

Well if there’s two helhests one should be using RC

[vapid ibex]

I would switch rampaging for calming token, you’ll actually never be using your blinding/ signature skill and using it actually causes you to do less damage, you’ll be better off doing 700k more weapon damage in a 10 second span than you would with rampaging for a total of close to 2.5M in 10 seconds just using symmetry

[karmic chasm]

That’s what I did. Calming and bellicose

[bitter estuary]

arby is more multifunctional but seeing the damage output........ i think arby is better than rc

[neat valley]

whys everyone so worried about dps, the only thing it matters for is cal ops, everyother content in the game is the easiest thing ever

[bitter estuary]

arby one shots impact shinkas its OVER for shotguns

[vapid ibex]

I’d switch bellicose to illuminated ground as well for that extra 6% weapon damage, you’ll never be doing signature skill damage. If you’re using your blinding signature at all with Kabr you’re already using him wrong!

[thin valve]

Cus a lot of people (me for example) only play calops cus there is nothing to do other than that.

[vast sky]

Your shield counts as a summon

[karmic chasm]

I use it on red bars who are swarming me in bridge lmao

[karmic chasm]

Yea but Calming does more damage, I directly tested it

[neat valley]

i just get master 1 and call it a day, none of the rewards i even need

[vapid ibex]

Tbh you’d never be using Kabr in calamity ops lol

[bitter estuary]

other than crota's end mod farming and chaos artefact grinding true

[vapid ibex]

Yes, however your shield doesn’t deal damage :v

[vast sky]

Oh no thats absolutely correct that I agree with but i alr have almost quad 10 stat rolls

[thin valve]

Crota contest is done, all my mods are perfect, and all my artifacts are refactored to nearly perfect stage 🤷‍♂️

[vast sky]

???? Rampaging pact buffs the wearers damage not the summons?????

[karmic chasm]

Arby was amazing in D2 as well, and yet I never used it

[thin valve]

And even if i had to run chaos, its 10min a day max

[spare urchin]

High difficulty mode is on the way . :/ just posted on fb.

[bitter estuary]

oh fair

im just testing out new weapons atp lol , atm trying to get good exo mod rolls so i can try use juan wei

[thin valve]

I was so bored i maxed attal lol

[vapid ibex]

What I’m saying is you get 3% more damage from illuminated ground, you won’t be using your blinding signature so I’d take the extra 3% weapon damage

[thin valve]

If next char is boring aswell, im putting all my lumia in normal draws and t6 ning

[bitter estuary]

mods being grindable made it impossible to run out of topological asthatine lmao

[neat valley]

thats what i did this season

[bitter estuary]

soon we'll bump into an issue where we have too much mobius clusters

[rotund raptor]

U get mods without pinnacle?

[neat valley]

i already have too much mobius clusters

[stark forge]

so morgran prey is even more dead than before

[vapid ibex]

Yeah since like months ago

[thin valve]

People run out of it?

[vast sky]

Also calming tokens biggest damage diff is its always active where rampaging is only 6s so rampaging had more down time, the damage buffs between the two for symmetry specifically are within a 5-10% gap because precision multi is always additive with itself and symmetry gets a ton from its second cata which makes adding more less of a damage upgrade due to diminishing returns and while still better also you said nothing about illuminated ground before and while its better for weapon damage i dont tie myself to stationary conditions because too much of the games content has you moving and this is a generalist build

[bitter estuary]

34% for mythics and 7.11% for exotics LMAO

[thin valve]

crota 7%

[thin valve]

what do u run fastest

[bitter estuary]

it's usually in the tens but after the update it's in the hundreds

[bitter estuary]

deathsingers is like 2~4 min per run

[thin valve]

with randoms?

[bitter estuary]

if you have a great prebuilt or amazing randoms you can get 2~3 min like this

[stark forge]

farm rapid and piercing mod is hell

[bitter estuary]

yes

[sharp talon]

with a duo u can also run deathsingers in 2 mins

[neat valley]

Yall need some ?

[vast sky]

Yeah give it to me tf

[rotund raptor]

Hell yea

[neat valley]

I don’t need it

Just stacking up my resources now

[bitter estuary]

from easiest to hardest

spread > rapid fire >>> piercing > impact

WHO is going to do crota to get impact mods bro 😭

[sharp talon]

me

[vapid ibex]

Illuminated ground is an artifact 4 slot, yes calming token is best option for slot 3.

Also you need to be stationary when using kabr to benefit from the basically 50% damage boost from the entirety of his kit + shooting out of the shield. Otherwise don’t bother using kabr if you want to move around like Jaren or Ning. Kabr literally can not physically move or he’s not viable at all 😭

[bitter estuary]

5~6 min of pain and suffering i'd rather do 2 rounds of deathsingers atp

[sharp talon]

its not that bad tbh

[bitter estuary]

but it's slow

[vast sky]

I know which slot illuminated is in i was saying you hadnt said anything about it up to this point

[sharp talon]

yea but i really need the impact mods lol

[vapid ibex]

I was talking to the guy about bellicose for the 30% weapon damage bonus

[thin valve]

come run duo with me

[bitter estuary]

fair

atleast it's not bridge crossing

[vast sky]

He had three shields for a reason and you still need to be moving to angle around his shield when getting shot by tons of ads 🥀

[thin valve]

was sitting on 300 until i started maxing random weapons

[stark forge]

nah impact is easy tier, abyss and bridge u get monke never light up lamps or bring sword across

[rotund raptor]

I neeed piercing for my parole and bow and rapid for my wolfpack and kulfi

[bitter estuary]

i am ordering takeout ill be on in like 30 min i think idk

[bitter estuary]

oh wait yeah fair

[vapid ibex]

Build melee + ranged damage resistance, that way you’re immune to damage by basically 100% when you’re moving to the next location to proct your shield and gives you enough time to shoot the ads behind or to your side

Mainly just melee

[vast sky]

You dont need melee resistance??? He blinds enemies 😭

[night sinew]

hi returning to the game running into perofmance issues on my new pc build any help?

[vast sky]

Putting your shield down knocks enemies back too

[vast sky]

Lower your settings?

[vapid ibex]

You shouldn’t be using his blinding signature, and you’ll be using him mid range aka 15m to proct melee

[vast sky]

Okay so why are we building melee resistance then

And also despite whatever you build on him defensively you're still gonna get melted in expanse 40, high end calamity and the challenge raid? theyre movement based modes

[night sinew]

even on lower settings still getting stutter and for an overbuilt pc i shouldnt need to lower settings?

[vapid ibex]

Melee is up to 15M and gives resistance to all damage

Ranged does not and does far less damage resistance

[vapid ibex]

Yeah you shouldn’t even be using him in any of those other than expanse for fun if you don’t already have a t6 Jaren or helhest

[vast sky]

Or you go generalist and go defense, health, barrier and shield using healing plasma on him too which alr stacks a ton of damage reduction?

[vast sky]

What even is this conversation

Contrarian contest

[solid niche]

Can the mods add a Triumph Hunter thread in the LFG section 😮

[vast sky]

Why are we min maxxing things for anything other then where min maxxing is needed if not for content where min maxxing is required but said min maxxing you're suggesting is hard to utilize in that hard content cause its movement based content outside of like bridge or capture point objectives

[vapid ibex]

Shouldn’t be using those since you shouldn’t be taking damage in the first place with your shield up, it’s for when you’re done with that location and need to move to the next area.

Barrier + melee + shield + defense

You can replace defense for ranged as well for piercing shinkas and prevent 1 shots

[vast sky]

I know what does and doesn't have bigger damage bonuses

[vapid ibex]

Kabr is so bad and not meta it’s not funny

I think they just brought him to introduce jade rabbit and symmetry for the next actual limited mythic character

• summon artifacts for potential next high dealing summon but low end health summon

[vast sky]

I mean given they didnt add necrochasm back, yeah and i dont even use symmetry on him outside of practice range and gms, hes locked to ir yut and either arbi or qb regardless

[short locust]

Where mythic Wolf and Ikora 🙏

[gritty rune]

He’s wouldn’t even be good for a theoretical defence based game mode cos his shields are tiny

[summer ledge]

Calling now and saying at some point down the line Wolf will be the first six star exotic tier.

[sharp talon]

isnt there operation cordon coming

its a survival mode i think

[gritty rune]

The only good thing about kabr is his super. That thing hits like a truck

[summer ledge]

Signature also can do some good damage with a good setup.

[vapid ibex]

Symmetry is best for Kabr, yeah RC and Arbalest does more damage but for his playstyle and ammo sake symmetry is the go to.

And it’s hilarious because his t6 just makes RC and ARB do a second instance of 50% extra bullet damage and it’ll never be utilized because he’s not meant to use them

[karmic chasm]

Here’s le problem

[gritty rune]

And symmetry would have been a fun gun, if it wasn’t for DR’s awkward alt fire controls.

Why don’t we just have a switch mode button instead of swipe?

Having to hold down and then swipe in the heat of battle just feels so bad

[vast sky]

Its not though-? Symmetry cat 3 doesnt work and symmetry is bugged where the blast version doesnt do inc damage to downed shinkas, arbi's is just hands down the best option outside of specifically boss damage cause it nukes any shielded targets and also deals with impacts

[vapid ibex]

Unfortunately using his blinding and ultimate skill are a nuisance, they take too long and deal not enough damage where as just using symmetry will do more damage than both even with a t10 signature and t10 super attribute on artifacts.

Do not build kabr with anything other than weapon damage

[summer ledge]

On controller it's just a hold to switch. Only thing I don't like is Borealis needing to cycle modes all the way through instead of picking.

Luckily, we have the option to build for both with his artifact setup since they're flat damage bonuses instead of specifically weapon or specifically abilities.

[vast sky]

Sym is doing 1.6m in 4 seconds-?

[vapid ibex]

You’re only using scout mode with symmetry, arc seeker mode sucks.

You can do 2.5M damage with symmetry in less than 10 seconds.

ARB and RC can do closer to 7M in 10 seconds.

Thing is 7M is already overkill and 2.5M with primary is enough

You’ll end up digging your own grave only using heavy ammo with Kabr, since all the other primary weapons don’t even come close to a million damage in like a minute of shooting

[vast sky]

Except you still wanna use end of line for shinkas? Whatre we yapping about

[vast sky]

Uh?

[summer ledge]

Just leave it.

[vapid ibex]

Yeah, End of line does more than 2.5M damage. My case proven lol.

[vast sky]

Whatre we yapping about chat

[cursive depot]

Whats the better investment long term, RC or arby if none are invested?

[vast sky]

Probably arby as rc is damage only

[summer ledge]

Contravene damage, Arbalest for support/utility.

[vapid ibex]

RC

[errant narwhal]

RC isn’t a bp weapon so you’ll save BP tokens but Arby is more versatile

[vast sky]

This

[summer ledge]

They suit different purposes. I personally plan to build Arbalest since the damage buff also extends to your teammates and I prefer flexibility over all out damage.

[errant narwhal]

I’m still on the fence of investing into Arby since I have a maxed RC

[summer ledge]

If you have the pass, you can since it's still good. Contravene just does stupid amounts of damage, but that's all it does.

[vast sky]

I maxed both

[errant narwhal]

Helhest coverage on any shield type sounds really enticing tho

[vapid ibex]

Arbalest only does high damage to Piercing shinkas and removes elemental shields

RC does far more damage and still kills piercing shinkas quicker than ARB

ARB is just good for instances like calamity where you have those heavy shanks that are void or solar and your RC only does arc

[vast sky]

Arbi was insane for the raid

[true mauve]

The Last Word

[errant narwhal]

Yeah I used it there, especially on bridge

[vast sky]

Arbi deletes impact shinkas hello?

[wary hawk]

How do I get new characters?

[errant narwhal]

Draws from the banners

[summer ledge]

Firing sound on Arbalest is better. There. I solved it.

[true mauve]

Woah did you not read cata1 team dmg buff 25% on shinkas?!

[errant narwhal]

genuinely, and it has ornaments and doesnt look ugly lol

[wary hawk]

TY

[errant narwhal]

RC desperately needs an ornament

[vast sky]

They're a pro who knows tech we dont despite i dont see them on calamity ops leaderboards, expanse leaderboards, raid speed leaderboards or challenge mode leaderboards for either raid

[summer ledge]

I was expecting a bigger buff for shield breaks, but it being team wide is a fair trade off for a lower value.

[errant narwhal]

Its John Mysterious Lightbearer

[vapid ibex]

No yeah what I mean is RC and ARB can both literally one shot piercing shinkas, the only difference is one does 5M and the other does 10M which doesn’t matter because it’s overkill and already way dead, now you just have an exotic that doesn’t deal damage to any ads because ARB does far less damage to literally anything else compared to RC

[vast sky]

Ong

[summer ledge]

Solidarity/Shiver Ir Yût or Allocation Lockdown. There. Add problem solved.

[vast sky]

99% of the end game is about heavy conservation not about damage differentials

[errant narwhal]

You’re shooting adds with RC? I only ever shot shielded enemies bosses and Shinkas with it

[vast sky]

Holy MISINFORMATION

[summer ledge]

For higher level content, switch the first roll to Annihilation and Ensured.

[vast sky]

Solidarity/annihilation with ensured

Love you cave

[vapid ibex]

By ads I mean elites and bosses lol sorry, RC still does way more damage than ARB in that instance

[true mauve]

Tbf I know as much as a new light when it comes to PvE. Im not on any PvE leaderboards either. I know 0 tech and dont have any friends, had to rng lfg all my crota groups and a mod on discord took pity and helped me do last run.

[summer ledge]

I'll personally take the near 100% bonus precision damage on three stacks, plus team kills buffing all damage for the majority of content.

[vast sky]

I mean fair enough but you're not taking the same self assured stances 😭

[errant narwhal]

Yeah but if they got non arc shields you’re boned, thats why I’m kinda thinking about building both

[true mauve]

I climb hills daily and die on them 💀

[vapid ibex]

Heavy ammo conservation hasn’t been an issue for months now, it’s also not the ammo that’s the problem, it’s the fact that after you’ve killed the piercing shinka with ARB you won’t deal any damage to the boss / elites compared to using RC which still one shots shinkas and elites / bosses

[vast sky]

See my problems is my teammates always kill too fast idk why they only added the "gives you perk when you also aid damage"

[thin valve]

Arby>RC

[true mauve]

Bruh, you clearly didnt do Challenge mode Crota over the weekend during worlds race...

[vast sky]

I mean rc still has stronger meta relevance, arbi is still niche but powerful like in the raid

[vapid ibex]

No yeah and that’s what I meant by the only time arb is used is for those heavy shanks that are like solar or void in calamity, in which case just using maru or coming up with a different team comp is better over compromising one shotting every other ad vs just that one non arc

[vast sky]

Literally this, im just ignoring em cause mr john lightbearer knows all 😭

[errant narwhal]

Relying on teammates when you’re not a premade is horrible

[vast sky]

Dont read my roles im new to the game

[summer ledge]

I just play what works, and seeing that pairing on Ir Yût got things turning for me. Just wish it would drop. Got my double thumb roll immediately, but I want to see just how much the Shiver roll does with Kabr the Second having ridiculous levels of precision target acquisition.

[thin valve]

Yep its niche. Mark my words, everyone who wont get it from bp will miss a bit in future)

[vapid ibex]

Top 10 crota team here 🤙 arb actually wasn’t used other than maybe just bridge encounter and only 1 Helhest had it

[thin valve]

In a huge fan of drill but arby is best 20$ spent for a gun

[vast sky]

Im more malding that you kinda want every first column perk on oversoul edict + glutton so now i needa go get three rolls

[summer ledge]

Kind of hard to miss when a foot shot mysteriously turns into a precision hit behind a barricade.

[errant narwhal]

I got the bp regardless cause the value is too good even without the bp wep

[true mauve]

They dont get it, its ok 🫂 They still dont know that 2 HH go on a team so one runs RC and one has the meats Arbys. 🤫 dont tell them 🤣

[summer ledge]

Completely forgot they added that one over how upset I am that we didn't get Word of Crota as the game's first mythic 180.

[thin valve]

After monthly lumia subscription, bp is the first thing i buy everytime

[vapid ibex]

I’m talking overseer calamity, idk how yall do it in master and stuff but nobody’s sacrificing a minute time loss to use arb over RC when you can have another teammate target the different elemental shield

[errant narwhal]

Same

[summer ledge]

Not everyone is overseer level is the thing, and not everyone cares enough to do that.

[vapid ibex]

Surprisingly did 23 minute run without cheese as well

[thin valve]

That lumia sub is just so delicious

[vast sky]

As in first clear or speedrun?

[errant narwhal]

mmmmm cheese

[karmic chasm]

So RC is still gamer?

[vapid ibex]

Speedrun

[summer ledge]

Easy damage, at least.

[true mauve]

Lookit #1 cal op team NA

[summer ledge]

Just waiting for my last Arbalest drop so I can get band 2 set up and max that out.

[vast sky]

Where did you place first clear

[vapid ibex]

I think we were like the 13th team to clear serverwide on release

[karmic chasm]

The only exploit I’ll ever be on with is sword skating, and that’s due to me being a hypocrite and also loving fun

[true mauve]

So its niche and was used for what it was needed for and far exceeded RC at that task. Crazy. Multiple weapons multiple uses one lightbearer.

[vast sky]

Atp they care more about dying on their hill

[summer ledge]

No point trying to argue with someone convinced they are right and everyone else must be wrong.

[vapid ibex]

Honestly nobody is playing this calamity rn, and even then we’re using RC and Arb not just arb. But definitely there is a better way to go about it nobodies just bothered to do a good run on calamity this time around due to crota fatigue

[vast sky]

Its threats's team ya know whose placed first since the second month of the game

[true mauve]

Tbf nobody is right. We have multiple weapons and elements to build a lightbearer for. We should be honestly maxing any and all weapons they use no questions asked. If you arnt ready to max a lightbearer then dont

[summer ledge]

Any chance you know four people stupid enough to run challenge mode at some point?

[vast sky]

He got an all time new best time on that calamity since release

[karmic chasm]

Maybe my clan. I just need Crota 😭

[errant narwhal]

Actually I’m right and the best LFR to use is the legendary one bc thats what Helhest used in the trailer

[vapid ibex]

Yeah I’m in the server I can literally see their texts lol, they’re fatigued and are going the easy way for this calamity, we already know 2 RC’s is still better and having someone else pop the elemental shield

[true mauve]

Fr use Symmetry

[errant narwhal]

Scout helhest would break the game

[summer ledge]

I just need the full challenge clear since I finally got a team that knew how Crota worked last night. Only took until 1 in the morning.

[urban quail]

What? No way

[summer ledge]

Good thing I'm apparently still in Colorado matchmaking so I can find teams at that time because I'm an hour ahead here.

[true mauve]

You missed all of this
#💭│main-chat message
Im just teasing you 💀

[karmic chasm]

I know how it works but we did sheeeeeet damage

[vapid ibex]

Having one person pop a solar or void elemental shield for Helhest to shred it with RC with always be faster than having a Helhest with ARB deal far less damage and lose about 1 minute in damage timing for the whole match because ARB doesn’t deal as much damage to anything other than just piercing shinkas hehehe

[errant narwhal]

have you tried the legendary LFR, one shots everything

[true mauve]

Whats the best 3rd to use for the Jaren/HH team if it isnt 2 HH?

[summer ledge]

The one she spawns with? One shot Crota with it yesterday. It was insane.

Most broken weapon in the game. Needs nerf.

[errant narwhal]

Gotta keep it lowkey

[thin valve]

Only if she had scout rifle instead of bow💔

[urban quail]

Bows suck ahh

[errant narwhal]

It’d be insane. I really hope they keep trying to buff bows

[bitter estuary]

Well surely they'd just add a new and better one atp

[hearty reef]

What's yalls artifact farming strat for Born Equal modifier?
Been using Fletched Arrow with Tan and not sure if I can be more efficient

[thin valve]

Bows are very far from me but if she had scout, she would go brrr

[summer ledge]

Just wait until it leaves rotation. Way too slow for me.

[true mauve]

Solar and Void mythic bow she would be ok

[errant narwhal]

I only farm chaos with pinnacle ngl

[thin valve]

Anything but bow for me

[hearty reef]

Would love too, but have most time today to farm :/

[urban quail]

I think bows could’ve stayed in the files for a little longer and with more options. Having one exotic and one mythic bow is horrible

[vapid ibex]

Realistically the biggest time save is for servitor room and impact room.

You’d want 2 Jaren’s 1 helhest, if the helhest can manage servitor room and pop all arcs and have good ammo economy to then solo both impacts in ball room

[karmic chasm]

When are the patching Rossi so he can use scout rifles?

[vast sky]

King sh right here

[thin valve]

And trinity being the worst bp weapon lol

[vast sky]

Never?

[hearty reef]

Symmetry Rossi

[true mauve]

Exotic weapon*

[urban quail]

Symmetry Rossi would cure my depression

[thin valve]

Yea this too😭

[karmic chasm]

That’s what I’m saying vro

[vapid ibex]

The biggest time loss is that impact room, since you only have 1 impact character, but you can skip the impact that the Jaren isn’t on and just do 2 helhests 1 Jaren

You’d do less damage / score but be able to get the 2-3x

[karmic chasm]

You gotta be an absolute HOOT at parties bro 😭

[true mauve]

Not worth for 1 of the Jaren to run an Arc shotty?

[empty kettle]

Don't worry, soon Le monarque will soon be here as a BP weapon or a raid weapon

[vapid ibex]

No, he needs to take down solar in first room and hallway elite solars

[karmic chasm]

We will cook. But I’m not necessarily switching off arc boost if I’m running the arc crossbow

[urban quail]

Just give me leviathan’s breath and I’ll be chillin

[true mauve]

But there are 2

[vapid ibex]

The big shank solar in 1st room?

[vast sky]

LEVIATHANS BREATH LETS GOO

[hearty reef]

Monarque should've come with Bulwark Ops, perfect thematic fit

[thin valve]

Le monarque might save rossi

[true mauve]

You say 2 Jarens

Similar how to how 1 HH uses Arby 1 uses RC, should 1 jaren rock Niatiiks and one rock Thermo?

[vast sky]

Give rossi an augment artifact in a new slot that reads "for every enemy trapped in his bubble when activated he gains 5% ability regen speed for 20s up to 8 stacks

[errant narwhal]

5* Rossi of course

[vapid ibex]

Oh there’s 2 strats

2 Jaren’s and a Helhest for that impact room before you drop into the boss

And 1 Jaren 2 helhests but have a Helhest get the other orb and skip one of the impacts to get the 2-3x score

[urban quail]

https://tenor.com/view/ekoi-ekoi-dancekid-dancekid-gif-10799637110820905144

[sharp talon]

one of the helhests can kill the impact with arby

[vast sky]

Peak arbi

Arbi shreds impacts

[thin valve]

hh with arby goes for impact yeah

[true mauve]

For this strat, do you need both jarens on full solar or can one use Niatiiks to help HH with arc?

[karmic chasm]

@true mauve @empty kettle @thin valve (because you’re chill, not because you like Rossi)
What would we use as offensive substats if we get Le Monarque?

[true mauve]

Same as we always do 😭

[karmic chasm]

But arc boost? Only if we use the arc crossbow

[tropic swift]

Anomalous Signal..

[devout void]

@indigo solar well for broke player this is my setup for speedrun boss umeko, i compare ability vs solar and i do more izanagi damage so, dont need ability until exotic, i guess

[true mauve]

Arc boost seems to have a big impact on his wpn mastery and sig damage

[vapid ibex]

Both solar, the hard part is the helhest having enough ammo to deal with 1st room 3rd room and impact room. The run is possible it’s just really daunting hence why nobodies bothered getting the score yet

[karmic chasm]

I don’t wanna change it bc I have high stat perfect artifacts in 3 and 4 soooo yea

[empty kettle]

Void boost (if we are focusing on the primary weapon)

[true mauve]

Never change for a primary

[vast sky]

Its because it double dips arc weapons and his weapon buff

[thin valve]

Make arby change modes like symmetry and make it destroy spread shinkas aswell🔥🔥🔥

[vast sky]

REAL

[thin valve]

And btw have yall found out whats the point of symmetry mode?💀

having fun shooting bubbles?

[devout void]

my only job is ult at the best timing and 1 izanagi shot, then run in portal, shuriken and izanagi again

[indigo solar]

Weapon/ability/solar actually, drop vulnerability. It's a ~9.4% damage increase in super and less than that with shurikens, while ability is a 9.6% improvement over weapon alone and solar is a multiplicative 18%

[vast sky]

Let arbi get the same debuff amount on elemental pops as it does shunkas and then let umeko use it and have it stack with her debuff trust

[devout void]

ohhh rip

[indigo solar]

And vulnerability boost didn't apply to allies last I tested

[thin valve]

Now im ready to pay 5bp-s to max it.

[devout void]

what the point omg

[vast sky]

We've been asking ourselves this sense release, its been changed twice and both times it still doesnt do as its read

The amount of testing taniks and i did 😭

And es9

[indigo solar]

If other players are running Umeko, your damage vs their debuffed targets will increase. It should be the complete opposite tho

[thin valve]

lmao

[devout void]

no 1 umeko of course, and if im not god god roll they prefer helhest than umeko

[vast sky]

When im in a mistranslation competition in regards to game mechanics and how things work and my opponent is destiny rising and torchlight infinite AND limbus company

[karmic chasm]

Ok but will we build arc crossbow or solar… that also changes it

[indigo solar]

United Axion haunts me

[thin valve]

void

[indigo solar]

Also idk if yall saw but they killed stone hoof

[vast sky]

https://tenor.com/view/propaganda-garfield-not-immune-to-propaganda-gif-12276191

[devout void]

really stupid game but thanks

[thin valve]

Tbh it still slaps

[vast sky]

Rip no more 99's

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-ar-throw-chair-gif-27350605

[indigo solar]

They also tweaked difficulty so we'll see

But stone hoof auras no longer stack

[vast sky]

Riiiiip

I never got my t2 stonehoof

[true mauve]

It has a good sized impact when number testing. It weighs similar to sig ability bonus...

[thin valve]

Higher waves for now mean nothing. It still gets u to afk wave 30(way more higher if u intend) so we good

[indigo solar]

This is patched btw

[vast sky]

I mean yeah just slap it next to understatement and anesthesia

[vast sky]

WHAT? WHEN

[indigo solar]

%-based weapon masteries no longer scale in addition to base damage

[vast sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-7433931244412524776

[thin valve]

then rossi 5* when

[true mauve]

Depends on the situation. Arc boost ability dmg pretty heavily

[thin valve]

Rossi : the useful

[bitter estuary]

rossi that teleports and trails clones behind him for every time he activates his skill and has 67 charges

[sharp talon]

how do the season pact buffs work? are they additive

[karmic chasm]

Given we got t6 we should keep that

[thin valve]

Ning

[indigo solar]

Additive with each other and seemingly something else bc the numbers don't line up, but I haven't found out what it is they add to

[violet sonnet]

mfw i never got 99 cause stone hoof couldnt carry alone for some reason

[vast sky]

Was it t2

[violet sonnet]

Yes, it's been T2 since Week 1

[thin valve]

Strange, mine lead me to 95 🤷‍♂️

[violet sonnet]

There is some weird Stuff going on with Bulwark

[bitter estuary]

mine lead me to 92 🥀

[violet sonnet]

This Week when i did Endless i let it afk on my Phone and it failed at 61 lmao

[thin valve]

They stop working when they feel like it

Now im assuming anesthesia will go brrrr

Mine is t4🙏🙏

[violet sonnet]

Honestly unless they completly overhaul stuff wave 15 is still gona be a joke

[karmic chasm]

I haven’t played it

[true mauve]

Rossi aint % based 🔥

[sharp talon]

guys should i take this? i think the first three will go to 55+ when i upgrade it to 85?

[indigo solar]

Yeah but that means it doesn't double dip anyways bc it just does the flat boost

[empty kettle]

Lemon arc (Le monarque) takes the win i guess

[true mauve]

It still boost wpns dmg also though right?

[indigo solar]

Yes, it boosts arc weapon damage and arc ability damage (including weapon mastery)

[violet sonnet]

i would never take a downgrade in power personally

[indigo solar]

But each is only boosted by the specified amount

[sharp talon]

yeah but i can reach t10 on 3 now

[thin valve]

u will reach it anyways but a bit later

[violet sonnet]

given how god awful refactoring gets near the end id never downgrade just to get some t10 early

[true mauve]

The double dip was boosting wpn dmg first then turning around and boosting the % dmg modifier also?

[indigo solar]

Previously masteries like Xuan's would boost weapon damage, which boosts the initial damage used to determine mastery damage, and then boost that mastery damage on top

[sharp talon]

ok i wont take it

[true mauve]

A 10% arc on weapon becomes 11% arc on mastery? 21% total

[indigo solar]

Yeah so say you had a mastery that did 50% of weapon damage, and a 10% elemental boost
Normally shots deal 100 damage, so the mastery does 50
Now your shot deals 110, so the mastery deals 55, but that 55 then gets boosted 10% to become 60.5

But that doesn't happen anymore

[karmic chasm]

When did this change

[devout void]

not sure netease understand their game

[polar quail]

ok guys, quick question - how tf get the all for one seal ? I mean how to beat her shield in 5s ?

what's the combo or the trick ?

[tight talon]

Nobody attacks Crota till everyone gets a sword

[random laurel]

Time zones bro

[violet sonnet]

MFW i take 2x Loot from Bridge and no Exotic Mood

Also i just noticed yu can straight up buy Weapon Tokens with Silver now lmao

[twilit thistle]

[vast arch]

That makes it $60 US for 1 copy of a BP weapon

[violet sonnet]

Anything but Skins

[signal spade]

What makes no sense is you get it cheaper with black market tokens the silver straight option is for people who don't read

[violet sonnet]

Your limited to 10 Tokens per Week with Black Market

[signal spade]

Twenty

[twilit thistle]

😭 fr. Once you spend a certain amount, over a certain length of time there isnt much else to buy. There is a limit. It snowballs fast

[frozen nimbus]

Moar

[violet sonnet]

you cant restock black markets specials from my memory tough i did notice i have 15 on market rn i could buy

nvm its right cause it resets on firday

[frozen nimbus]

2 times reset a week

[violet sonnet]

so ig 30 a week

[frozen nimbus]

And 15 per reset yeah 30

[violet sonnet]

tbh i havent bought anything but protons nowdays

stuff just aint worth my Coins

[violet sonnet]

i guess you get that when you bought out the draws

[bitter estuary]

better than getting an exotic mod with a useless perk and horrible substats

[signal spade]

Either way don't ever but the straight silver

Ya the draws are better priced in there so I bought them before I ever converted silver to leaves or pulls

[violet sonnet]

i dont even buy the draws anymore feels like waste of coins

protons are non existent for me

ive gotten ONE since Game launched from Campaign

[signal spade]

Other thing that makes no sense is buying the 5 twice is the same price but more rep than buying the 10

[twilit thistle]

Exactly. Photons and the other one to the left for upgrading extoics.

[devout void]

ok but put back purple boat in black market

[violet sonnet]

i dont buy cores either

cores are guranteed drops

[signal spade]

Cores not worth buying photons only or bp tokens

[twilit thistle]

yea it just speeds it up. Maybe that's why im so burned out. I upgraded so many exotics.

[violet sonnet]

like i bought other stuff in s1 but now i have so much of it it just waste to buy anything but potons

[signal spade]

I just wish the cores were farmable literally anywhere else than leg campaign

Running Armageddon a hundred times is so bad

[frozen nimbus]

I refuse upgrading exotic weapons to max..always skipping last two

[violet sonnet]

lmao, wiped to reg crota end bridge cause someone did bridge skip

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/cummins-gif-12535975135255283466

[twilit thistle]

yep thats what ive actually been doing. You dont need all of them. You can either skip the last cat, or the last two like you said. Just dont do it on ur mains. (and preferably get one per char at max)

[tight talon]

Don't make it a habit, we all were complaining about characters not being useful for more than 2 months and now they made Kabr stay until Early-Mid Feb

[signal spade]

Pain

[frozen nimbus]

But my mains change every 2 characters 😄

[devout void]

funny they give skin to unpopular weapon but not maha, queenbreaker

someone need to teach them how to make money + good skins on character

[sharp talon]

which one is more important for jaren? sig or solar? im gonna build a mythic while i build my new slot 3 exotic

[frozen nimbus]

Yeah thats a crime

[devout void]

solar + veil i think, not the artifact you show

[hollow sedge]

when are we getting lebron james as a character

[bitter estuary]

i'd use sb and two tailed but the rest? nahhhh

also why the hell riskrunner has a skin

[frozen nimbus]

I‘m looking forward the Crota skins

[devout void]

literally free cash, of course izanagi and gallows are with my main character but its not the most used weapon

[twilit thistle]

yup. exotics arent rlly the issue. The real issue is mythics. Tip: dont go all the way up to 10/10 on the mods.

[violet sonnet]

ngl this strat of suiciding for bridge is cringe

[lapis isle]

Just a question, as i have some people asking me it; can all 4 encounters of crota be done like Gauntlet with pings and no mic?

I dont agree with no mic, but they're annoying me

[violet sonnet]

this jaren did nothing useful and now we wiped cause we had annihlators spawn on the other side outstanding move my dude

[sharp talon]

my screenshot earlier was valiant perturbation (slot 3) which i think is best for slot 3? for slot 4, yeah, im still waiting for a good valiant veil

[violet sonnet]

how hard is it to do the encounter normal

[sharp talon]

or i can build mythic as well

[devout void]

ok yea good

[twilit thistle]

I wish strikes were like they are in d2. Where power really doesn't matter. Same with the other leaderboardess multiplayer activities.

[violet sonnet]

on god how do people fail to do regular crota mechanics

[bitter estuary]

its not even a timeskip and its just a way so bridge enc faster since we cannot trust new lights (rip the victims which are noobs who don't know crap)

[violet sonnet]

on god the average rising player wouldnt last a night in the mines ive been

game literally spells you out what to do and people fail at that

gotta wait a month or so till people learn how to read 2 lines of text ig

[bitter estuary]

2 months for crota and into the abyss idk

[violet sonnet]

anyways 2 man bridge time

[lavish carbon]

is there a secret triumph for deathsingers?

[twilit thistle]

isnt that the first one? Just run umeko and grab it before anyone else can. Youll be facing some salty maru's who are convinced you should be playing maru, but they r slow.

[violet sonnet]

secret chest after you finish encounter

[bitter estuary]

or.. you should do the exploit where 1 drops down, and then respawns, and when the person picks up the chalice, you immediately respawn and can move freely since the debuff doesn't apply to you, then run around the map like per usual,

recommended 4 person to do this

[violet sonnet]

wait if you dunk a sword can you get anihlator spawns even if no one is on the other side?

[lavish carbon]

thank you ❤️

[twilit thistle]

😂 nah just jump and use umkeos movement ability fr u wouldnt be that much faster (with blueberries)

[bitter estuary]

fair enough but this allows you to slide and double jump too don't forget that

[twilit thistle]

diminishing with blueberries. thats what i mean. Nings that are trying to use the clones to distract an exploding thrall. maru's who think they can take down the rapid shinka. Etc.

[tardy sphinx]

Am I able to join a crota calamity run that’s on the 3rd stage

I had to leave my team lol

Do I have to start all over again with a new group?

[twilit thistle]

tbh id run ning. by the time u solo the shinka theyd prolly catch up (if ur solo q)

[bitter estuary]

fair

[violet sonnet]

@bitter estuary bites you

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/neco-arc-evangelion-meme-die-neco-gif-23136166

[violet sonnet]

you go other side and me and forsaken do sword dance if you want

ez sub 7 min clear

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/komi-san-komi-cant-communicate-shoot-bang-komi-bang-gif-25322352

[bitter estuary]

aight

[mint tendon]

Evening

[bitter estuary]

LMAO these randoms must be so confused

[violet sonnet]

easy

@tight talon theres your clear for seasonal seal

also i forgor your called noctis ingame @bitter estuary i wouldve just asked you if you wanna 3 man lmaooooo

[karmic chasm]

Yea I keep getting record clears somehow

[violet sonnet]

id be down to run bridge a bunch as 3 man tommorow cause i need a better searing mod

[bitter estuary]

lmao dw

[tight talon]

.> Didn't show up ingame anyways

Need to do the same for deathsingers and crota

[ionic marten]

Really

[tight talon]

Thanks for your support

Notification

[violet sonnet]

also lowkey couldve had the challenge if you didnt kill swordbearers

[tight talon]

I didn't touch them >.>

[violet sonnet]

im pretty sure you nuked one

[tight talon]

well I don't remember but alright perhaps might have happened

[violet sonnet]

also i mean we could do quick 3 man deathsinger if @bitter estuary is down for it

still need to do shadowshaper matches for seaonal seal

but alas not in a hurry cause im not gona run challenge mode without keys

[tight talon]

Am already done

When everyone was busy with Crota, I beat up shadowshaper bots

[violet sonnet]

j*bless behaviour

[soft bobcat]

Same I think I only got matched against 2 ppl so far. Need 2 more and I'm done

[bitter estuary]

yes i also need piercing mods

like a ton, a crap ton

[violet sonnet]

prob the most funny seal im missing

cause apparently GM shinkas dont count

@tight talon your herby legally obligated to 3man bridge a bunch with us tommorow

[ionic marten]

Hello I’m new here

[mint tendon]

Hello

[tight talon]

When you are free next time, I'll borrow your ahh for Issakis. I want MVP there so we finna 2 man it

[thin valve]

This the same dude who creates female discords and textes me random links lol

[mint tendon]

😂

[ionic marten]

How are you doing?

[ionic marten]

lol 😂

[mint tendon]

Tired hbu

[thin valve]

its 2026 already mate

We aint in 2015 anymore

[ionic marten]

I’m good

[ionic marten]

lol

[vapid ibex]

🗣️🗣️AND THE PATCH NOTES GO mild 😾

[karmic chasm]

Maru won’t look like a snail anymore

[soft bobcat]

pfp hella mid ngl. mine would look better in that shirt hair and all

[neat valley]

You can just play with a friend on the tables and they throw their games for the cards , that’s what I do , I get it done in less than 5 minutes for the season

[indigo solar]

Bulwark rebalance

[tight talon]

They patched that

[neat valley]

I did it not long ago

[karmic chasm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1145889821299052677/1293624134601019455/googreaction.gif

[tight talon]

Else would have done that long while ago

[karmic chasm]

Would you do that for a poor soul like me

[neat valley]

You can Que at the same time as well , and you get matched up and you can just have your friend throw

[violet sonnet]

oomfie forgor how deathsinger works @tight talon

trying to find runes in the arena when we dont even have chalice yet

[bitter estuary]

balls ok wow im tired of 7~8 min of doing bridge crossing just for 1 mid piercing mod

[thin valve]

1 mobius tho

[bitter estuary]

you need 60 to max out a mythic 🥀

[thin valve]

Thats 5 mods maxed

[neat valley]

Nice

[violet sonnet]

Actual Joke of a Raid

[tight talon]

Smh

[karmic chasm]

It’s a mobile game 😭

[devout void]

can open a fruit juice shop in the haven

[hard forge]

Can h end the bulwark ops and get the rewards still if I pass 30v

[violet sonnet]

ima keep it real this a strike at best, not having power delta makes this a genuine joke

[bitter estuary]

so

• abyss = 2 ppl
• bridge = 3 ppl
• deathsingers = 2 ppl
• crota = 4 ppl

absolute cinema

[violet sonnet]

cant you 3 man crota technically

[white fossil]

love destroying my phone battery with 2 hours of failed attempts of another calamity crota 🤣 man i need more ingame friends

[violet sonnet]

one portal and 2 who pass buff back and forth for exit

[bitter estuary]

but it's slow since you need to use up the sword and can't 1 phase the shields

[karmic chasm]

Yea abyss is better with 2 people

[violet sonnet]

i mean yeah but like atp just bring 6 people

[tight talon]

Would beat up a bot anyday over making my friend sit through 3 rounds when they could be literally doing anything else

[bitter estuary]

unless if you want the debuff to be permanently removed then 4

[violet sonnet]

and you can have full enlightments

[karmic chasm]

This is my problem exactly

[devout void]

number of people dont mean "good" raid for me, actually i think its annoying you cant go solo like other Destiny, fun experience to play solo and surpass yourself, find strat

[white fossil]

ive got the first 3 done now but this last one seems to elude people so much

[violet sonnet]

anyways i go eep, couldve been aslepe an hour ago but people cant do bridge

[devout void]

doing abyss solo on your invis hunter, cross the bridge on titan, solo crota, so fun

[bitter estuary]

i feel like the raids feel to forced to be atleast 2 man

[karmic chasm]

You and I are in the same level of hell, yea

[devout void]

and the funny thing is sometime its more easy with 2 people than 6

[bitter estuary]

i saw some low level say you must cross the bridge with the chalice or else we wont progress when no one in the other side had enlightment

[violet sonnet]

people cant read

game literally tells you the exact instructions to solve normal crotas end

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[sharp talon]

crota is menacing they're scared of him and are focused on that 🤣

[devout void]

like issakis you can manage solo or two now, but you go with 6 matchmaking and someone troll you shooting the wrong claws on purpose, well cant happen anymore they change the claws but

[tight talon]

Also I love rising so much, Warlock jump sucks on D2 after being used to on D:Rising

[summer ledge]

Encounters are also almost exactly the same as D2 for the first couple.

[karmic chasm]

That’s what Corndog and I did for flawless lmaooo

[violet sonnet]

i just made a group for seal

[devout void]

yea warlock have crazy movement here its much better

[summer ledge]

Because warlocks essentially got titan lift in Rising, but instead of ending at the top they still get to float down a bit.

[devout void]

still waiting a true titan skate on rising

[violet sonnet]

like forgot getting flawless rn when people di to thralls or people suicide on bridge cause they dont wanna take 3 buisness days for randoms to figure out the encounter (that again the game literally tells you how to do)

[karmic chasm]

Yet another Rossi w

[karmic chasm]

You haven’t flawlessed them all? 😭

I got all of them first go with randoms except abyss, which is why we did a two man

[thin valve]

was baiting him whole raid like a good boy

[summer ledge]

Keep getting Nings that try to speedrun the opening bridge part of the first encounter and fall off before anyone gets down to the actual encounter.

[twilit thistle]

😞 my Nings now in the above 72k club

[devout void]

like imagine playing kabr and doing that, maybe the character will help more in high calam score

[karmic chasm]

Didn’t u quit 😭

[karmic chasm]

I like to stand on the pillar and shoot hoops on him

[thin valve]

75.5k umeko?💔

[devout void]

is it the first cycle a new character is not a need for top calam score like top 1-3

[karmic chasm]

Dawg that’s farrr better decision making than me doing 75.2k on my Rossi

[thin valve]

Thats exactly what i said when new calam dropped

I knew kabyr was cooked

seeing that precision arc

[naive ingot]

Doesn't it just.

[tight talon]

Had to revive you thrice

[devout void]

i feel very lucky to have umeko T6, thanks to estella banner, the only limited banner i draw, one of the most usefull character and always find a spot for contest

[karmic chasm]

I was just saying to Danielle that the new Kabr isn’t complete bunz, but he’s outclassed enough you simply don’t need him. I’ll probably T6 him eventually since I like his playstyle, but he’s comparable to Jolder in terms of “meta”

[devout void]

weird because usually they will force us to play the new and make everything about him

[karmic chasm]

Helhest exists

[sharp talon]

jolder is better because she can use partidge to move faster i think

[thin valve]

Exactly, always new calam = best for new char

[naive ingot]

I know. I'm so used to Rising

[karmic chasm]

Yea but her super is hella mid, worse than his

[devout void]

the best for ever, so hard to kick from the team

[karmic chasm]

Worse than Rossi’s tbh. The only thing Jolder does worse than Rossi

[thin valve]

Yea, they cooked with helhest.

[karmic chasm]

They cooked too early

[bitter estuary]

jolder is wack and even at the min to do comp at t4 it's still wack

[thin valve]

Adding piercings after Helhest feels like a joke lol

[devout void]

like maru shine to break shield and maybe the modificator, at the end a wolf team take #1 if we speak about pure speedrun, she is not bad but yea its not helhest, nobody will be helhest before a while maybe

[potent inlet]

Helhest 2

[devout void]

a bit sad helhest "kill" piercing for the umeko and tan user, she is just too good

[bitter estuary]

the difference now is that ppl are using arbalest now i guess

[bitter estuary]

umeko atleast is a 4*

what is tan-2 even now lol

[thin valve]

its good but rc has it’s own place

[devout void]

oh yea forgot arbalest, helhest was not good enough, now she can bypass everything or break an impact

[karmic chasm]

Tan has a very slightly better boss dps setup, and that’s literally it.

[thin valve]

They gave straight buff to helhest

[devout void]

nothing, slow character that nobody want in their team, but we use it for contest or random speedrun

[thin valve]

piercings and impacts go bye bye

[karmic chasm]

I love using Helhest but mine is only T1

[thin valve]

Im waiting for rerun😈

[bitter estuary]

then again obtaining copies for umeko is easy

but this game is literally making me quit bc i needed ONE , yes ONE MORE COPY to t6 umeko, like come on

[thin valve]

Mine is t6 as i remember

[devout void]

yea Tan come put your ult and afk whatever

[twilit thistle]

I’m just spending pinnacle. The bare minimum. Doesn’t take much time to maintain my account. Don’t have a pack so I probably will eventually

[potent inlet]

Ngl this the worse copy mechanic ive seen in a gacha, fym i need like 20 of it to max it

[karmic chasm]

Me too vro

[bitter estuary]

12* but yeah

[potent inlet]

20-8

[devout void]

i still have tan only T4 and jolder t2, always ning fei, waiting kabr boat to turn blue 🙏

[potent inlet]

Now whats 9+10

[thin valve]

I dont want that lame kabyr in normal pulls cus i have to t6 ning first💔

[bitter estuary]

kabr in the standard literally kills tan-2

[devout void]

still playable and strong T1, as soon you have max weapon, good artifact she shine

[twilit thistle]

😂

[bitter estuary]

my rossi is still t3 so i can't use him yet 🥀

[true mauve]

Man I need to make some Cal Ops friends. Anyone have a good and active NA pack?

[thin valve]

Mine is t6 and i never thought of using him

[devout void]

I remember I had a friend T6 tan, all in for him, number 1 power, top player, he was waiting so much the piercing calam', then that day helhest banner arrive and nobody dm him anymore

[thin valve]

I feel more comfortable playing attal in expanse than rossi

[true mauve]

T6 73k Jaren stuck in specialist 2 because cant hit 340k with randoms 💀

[devout void]

apply for IN and FUG

[sharp talon]

i got 385k in master matchmaking earlier. i love randoms

[thin valve]

Cus u need good helhests. Not in specialist but in this calam, jaren does not do anything beside running and breaking impacts

[devout void]

oh yea fu**, hope i dont get kabr

[sharp talon]

without t6 helhest its so hard

[twilit thistle]

😂yup hh meta means just q till u get a hh. Was so ez

[devout void]

its like enough to spot #1 in my zone 3

[true mauve]

I has T0 HH it ain happenin, but I am pulling over 50% dmg so take that as a sign of why I cant 340k. I aint aimin for 400k or 450k like overseer

[thin valve]

Aim for 450k pls

[sharp talon]

how do u get in other zones im confused about the zone system tbh

[urban quail]

Is DR getting an update for tomorrow? Haven’t seen an announcement yet

[true mauve]

Not in specialist 2 with randos, maybe one day I can be good

[devout void]

i only have ning this cycle so cant push so easily like all the HHHH jarren team but should be enough in my zone, i skip on purpose last cycle to be safe at seasonal reset

[true mauve]

In game notes at login screen

[devout void]

what's your rank last cycle ?

[thin valve]

I started expert 1💔

Wait i think even below

[sharp talon]

master 1 promo zone. i gto demoted to expert 2 at reset then instant promo

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/world-heavyweight-champion-triple-h-entrance-wwe-bad-blood-gif-2542362960558167392

[devout void]

same so its easy if we wait, i could have waiting more and be zone 36

[devout void]

Ok yea, waiting is a good plan to avoid good zone, the people that stay Overseer go back Master 1 at seasonal reset, zone 1, 200 players

The seasonal reset is the most sweaty things and only top 20% will go Master 2, it's really hard

Even good players can miss a spot. Each zone has 200 players, and every time someone leaves Expert, they land in the zone with the remaining opening. Obviously, if you're AFK for a week, you can end up in zone 5, with less skilled players, making promotion to Master 2 easy. For example, in zone 1 you might need 430k points, while in a less skilled zone you'll need 400k points to reach Master 2.

[sharp talon]

thank u so much

[urban quail]

Most depressing patch notes I’ve ever read

[true mauve]

Its typical maintenance notes, we just had tons of new stuff added. Time to balance and bug fix

[devout void]

no worries, when you dont have all the top character it's a good idea to not fight to maintain your overseer on the last cycle of the season, better go "unchanged" then be expert

[urban quail]

Ohhhhhh I see. Just got back to the game so I didn’t notice there were longer patch notes before. I appreciate it for letting me know

[thin valve]

I was master 2 unchanged for months lol

[true mauve]

Np, but magoichi got replaced by tartar sauce as best

[thin valve]

This cycle i played like 5 times, was busy with crota and now just lazy

[thin valve]

This tartar actually got use?

[urban quail]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-defeated-give-up-gif-5507795813322566763

[vast sky]

Need a helhest rerun chat

[thin valve]

thats what ive been saynnnn

[vast sky]

Izzi supremacy sorry

[true mauve]

Its first Aggressive frame mythic sniper. Its base dmg alone is 25% higher than the other mythic snipers and tops even the exotics iirc

[devout void]

So in europe, someone that clean Expert today will go zone 3 I assume, with me, since we still have 157 spots, except the game have an other mechanics like hidden skill rating i dont know, I play this morning to be zone 3 after 1 week of afk, I don't know if there is only 443 players in europe Master I (zone 1+2+3), I remember last seasonal reset they instantly put all the APAC player in zone 2 thinking they dont have the same skill than zone 1 EUROPE player

[urban quail]

How u get the sniper? I’ll get one and keep it unused so IT can see how good Magoichi (MahGoat) is 😤😤

[vast sky]

New bulwark game mode and bulkark synth engrams

[true mauve]

Bulwark ops

[thin valve]

That new sword looks good

[true mauve]

Surprises me no Umeko has ran arc expanse with it and symmetry. I think its an arc sniper

[urban quail]

This hurts my heart more than anything 😔😔😔 Magoichi, my beloved sniper..

https://tenor.com/view/i-was-meant-to-be-new-i-was-meant-to-be-beautiful-new-beautiful-ultron-gif-15463832316835205751

[thin valve]

u just gave me an idea

[devout void]

can we even know that ? if we filter by character its only top 100 anyway i think, but you gave me the idea to try

[true mauve]

Lol fr was prob thinking same one as you but my umeko ain built

[true mauve]

If they aint top100 do they even count?

[bitter estuary]

considering there's symmetry and tatara gaze surely this would happen

[devout void]

yea i think they cant appear

it will be better if you can filter and they appear even if number 473, at least you can check build of other people

[thin valve]

maybe my symmetry will get a use somewhere

[true mauve]

HH and Ning meta too strong

[twilit thistle]

Been hearing some wild claims on snipers today 😂 maogo, tartar, 400k have been crowned highest damage in the same day.. This is why I just run izi.

[bitter estuary]

the only thing ning could'nt pass is there's solar shields

we haven't gotten a solar smg btw

[thin valve]

Izi is da goat but sometimes u wanna run symmetry

[devout void]

wow even ning first clear is so far now

[bitter estuary]

izi is the best

mythics have... WAYY too many variables

[thin valve]

ahahaha that kabyr😭😭

[bitter estuary]

that kabr must be running arbalest

[devout void]

yes arbalest

[thin valve]

He is aura farming between those helhests

[bitter estuary]

i knew it LMAO you cannot go that quick with him on rc idk why

[thin valve]

cus arbalest says bye bye to piercing shinkas

[devout void]

all the top 10 kabr use arbalest but the time is really good

[true mauve]

I think its the exciting fact we now dont need Borealis for full elemental coverage anymore

[twilit thistle]

Honestly @indigo solar >izi tho. Is it still 400k?

[thin valve]

I was a big borealis glazer on launch

[bitter estuary]

didn't know you can have multiple placements

[true mauve]

Bro... no Umekos but I see a Jolder and Wolf in top50 NA piercing expanse 40

[karmic chasm]

RC will be one node from maxed as of tonight

[exotic sinew]

lol the discord emblem mixups have been entertaining to see at the least

[devout void]

It just depends on the activity; it's already rare to be able to play a sniper in this game. Sometimes they just ask you to land one shot with Izanagi and that's enough, but I prefer the feel of 40k. I had that in the contest and good ammo economy.

[true mauve]

Tbh same, it offered what we still dont have on alot of lightbearers. Full elemental coverage with mythic or exo weapons

[devout void]

tryharder ego player and pretend to be a casual here...

[thin valve]

showed us his true face

[simple plank]

lowkey with Kabr 2 you never need to use primary

if you run arby

[twilit thistle]

We were glazers together, then.

[bitter estuary]

no comment

[thin valve]

Literally everyone was so surprised i ran borealis, they were like “WHY?”

[bitter estuary]

i am no tryhard

[devout void]

only if you use the borealis god roll artifact void arc solar

[true mauve]

@indigo solar does TL Allocation Vector trigger Umeko wpn mastery 3 times? It has no cooldown

[devout void]

[bitter estuary]

imagine if borealis was like two tailed

you can do any element with one shot

[true mauve]

Thats Ikoras TTF arti 😭

[thin valve]

sensational.

[twilit thistle]

I was #1 Umeko for a long time with it. Would still be running it but @novel quest instructed me to build izi.

[cinder harbor]

Is it not possible to get 500 essence of oversoul this week? I’m stuck at 360

[sharp talon]

its capped i think. i have 400

[true mauve]

Week cap 260

[devout void]

true

[white lake]

Hello guys, i'm new to the game but not destiny in general, and i would like to join an activ clan, anyone ?

[sharp talon]

#1391468035981836420

[devout void]

The modesty of great players, Lionel Messi of Rising

[cinder harbor]

Does our progress to 500 reset next week?

[bitter estuary]

i get carried being fr i miss my shots a lot it's why i can stay in master1/2 and do raids seemingly well

[true mauve]

Best look in game tbh, the ones on here for NA are kinda .... y know...

[thin valve]

boss said

[true mauve]

No

[bitter estuary]

like borealis feels wack bc netease thought it was too op for borealis to have that perk

only to release arbalest

[cinder harbor]

Thanks. Another question lol. My brother doesn’t have Jaren and wanted to use the trial in crota but the terminal doesn’t show up

[white lake]

@true mauve na ? im eu haha and i would like to find one activ to do things with and get better

[true mauve]

Think it's only in challenge and may be gone since the mechanics were nerfed after race weekend

[thin valve]

Contest is already gone, it was for challenge

[true mauve]

#1391468035981836420 plenty of EMEA/APAC your 2 servers are merged

[cinder harbor]

Gotcha thanks

[thin valve]

You don’t need packs for anything in this game, especially if ur a new light (beginner)

[twilit thistle]

Snipers need buffed. Now that we have 3 elements it’s time to buff it. I should probably finish the other 2 for Umeko, I think both are over 10k power lol

[devout void]

its ok i got carried every leaderboard, most of the time im afk then press ult and izanagi

[twilit thistle]

I just couldn’t lock in on the arc scout tbh

[bitter estuary]

borealis and izi need a heavy rework (but i'm leaning more on a FULL change on borealis)

[white lake]

Oh ok thanks, cause i just got two 5* heroes and wanted to know if there good or trash haha

[bitter estuary]

balls

[thin valve]

Once they set me as umeko on crota, i never felt so useless in my life until boss fight

[thin valve]

Which ones

[potent inlet]

Izi would be so much better if it didnt autoreload after the charged reload smh

[devout void]

helhest kill izanagi and netease give us a cool skin to apology but not enough

[bitter estuary]

so real ikora launches 67 black holes to defeat crota

[thin valve]

I meant umeko, idk why i wrote ikora lol

[devout void]

then what you want, you dont need to reload if you dont one shot something ? izanagi + umeko reload speed go crazy

[bitter estuary]

[white lake]

@thin valve Tan2 and Ning fei

[devout void]

exactly like you just afk many minute and watch people try so hard

[potent inlet]

I mean, it screws the dmg rotation needing to swap out of izi to avoid it reloading automatically

[devout void]

and if you miss your ult, too early or shot immune they hate you

[bitter estuary]

when will skibidirizzler get back here

[thin valve]

Ning is goat. Every character here has it’s use somewhere in some mode and any can be considered “good” and useful, but ning is local aura farmer. He is good even in places where he is not supposed to be good)

[white lake]

Ok thanks ^^ i will focus on him

[twilit thistle]

This is how I felt since I got strong on Umeko. Once skill is no longer the blocker u see the other characters shine. When a hellhest walks in… you feel utterly useless. Ur a support for a support 😭

[cyan tide]

Why would you need to swap out? Just reload normally, I think one of the catalysts increases reload speed after landing a headshot

[devout void]

what the best time on NA for arc expanse please

[white lake]

and what should i spend my currency on ?

[true mauve]

Wanna know what needs done to stop HH?
||Nerf HH with a Bug Fix to her Salvo will say because "it is currently overperforming and increasing her charge rate by too much" while also hitting RC "the dmg in 3 round burst was bugged and dealing full on each shot now it does proper dmg like mahama and crimson"||

[thin valve]

I barely played umeko before and hardly will play her again if not necessary lol. They made me play 2 times on her and it was like a break for me. I was eating and doing random things while they were sweating

[sharp talon]

they will never nerf helhest in pve. it would cause a massive backlash

[devout void]

thanks, im thinking what time umeko can do, like symettry + izanagi or symettry + new arc sniper but maybe izanagi help more once you break a shinka idk

[thin valve]

which currency

[true mauve]

"Bug fixes" not nerfs

[white lake]

and for example, if i want to spend some money in the game, whats the best things to buy ? (beside skins haha)
@thin valve lumia leaf

[sharp talon]

i want helhest to come back asap. at the same time, i need to save leaves...

[true mauve]

Silver and get journey bundles with it

[thin valve]

Silver on journey bundles. Lumias go for draws to acquire new characters. 180 lumia = 1 draw, pity is 60

[true mauve]

I want the next support to drop ASAP should be a debuffer that creeps umeko and HH both

[thin valve]

Unfortunately u wont spend much on cosmetics in this game cus there are NONE literally lol. Maybe 3 worth skins

[sharp talon]

ngl i wished kabr power creeped helhest, that would be so funny 🤣

[devout void]

its really impressive on ning, i hate the stage with servitor that have 3 phase, so easy to be one shot and restart the run

[true mauve]

Compare their dmg side by side with and without her buff. She only does so much because she has the best dmg buff in game on her side and arguably one of the most broken dps wpn masteries also

[twilit thistle]

No, they would 100% do it on one condition. If the game became popular again, we would hear “RC balanced to deal 100x less damage” alongside “introducing the third arc specialist”

[thin valve]

Ning skin with green recolor is #1 skin for me

[bitter estuary]

the only reason he exists is that he will be in the standard banner thats all

ngl making the bis locked behind bp that takes ages to grind is painful

[devout void]

first they should "fix" vulnerability boost from umeko to help all the team, maybe they keep that for a new one sadly

[thin valve]

I know they released kabyr so most of us can hoard draws because next char will be super good, but i cant prove that.

[true mauve]

They kept shotties doing Precision dmg to just Chaperone until Jaren released. Now all shotty can do precision dmg.

[true mauve]

He exists simply to sell a new LFR BP wpn for HH 🤣 💀

[bitter estuary]

and it's smg + lfr with a new smg perk that does aoe making it possible to deal with all shinka types and shields 😍 😍

[thin valve]

Kabyr season is entirely for Hh, bp gun—> goes to helhest
calamity cycle—-> helhest
expanse—-> helhest

[bitter estuary]

what if it's sidearm+shotty again

[thin valve]

Draws spent on kabyr—-> 0

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/he-knows-what-it's-about-abe-weissman-tony-shalhoub-the-marvelous-mrs-maisel-he-has-the-idea-of-what-it-is-about-gif-3486475048357301387

[sharp talon]

mythic ikora

[bitter estuary]

mythic xuan wei

[true mauve]

Mythic Crota

[devout void]

before, body shot was better than head with shotty, is it different now ? for gwynn and if you use a mod

[bitter estuary]

mythic balls

[twilit thistle]

Mythic

[sharp talon]

exotic rossi instead

[thin valve]

Melee character when

[sharp talon]

or maybe exotic helhest $$$$

[twilit thistle]

@karmic chasm he gets it

[bitter estuary]

helhest 6*

[true mauve]

Lemme dig up video clips. Shotties can now headshot. Particularly Spinosaurus perk for the 5 pellets > 13 so it is even easier to Precision shot. The aggressive frame Niatiiks does more dmg than Chappy in Iron Bar. Its insane.

[twilit thistle]

If we going by stars. 10 star Rossi when

[devout void]

ok i didnt even know it change

[bitter estuary]

chaperone is dogwater we alr knew that

[thin valve]

Niatiiks does more damage than chaperone?

they made that gun dirty lol. Never liked it anyways

[true mauve]

Jaren brought with him lots of shadow changes to artifacts also @indigo solar

[thin valve]

Nobody could convince me to use it on gwynn

Amount of people who got baited to t6 gwynn to never use her again since launch💔

[devout void]

hopefully i skip, they must feel sad

the skin is iconic but they kill her

[twilit thistle]

Surprised netease didn’t do exotics. My suggestion for that was to essentially give a char that upgrades like an exotic. Much faster than a mythic, but no customization. Can’t change weapons or artifacts

[thin valve]

She was my main, now i never played her for a while and have not even SEEN her for a while

[thin valve]

yea

[sharp talon]

exotic characters would be cool yknow after a lot of power creep. you can upgrade an old char to be to the current meta

[true mauve]

@devout void

[devout void]

i even delete all the exotic mods

[thin valve]

ohh u did her dirty😭 she still has a place in my heart cus i know one day i will shine.

[true mauve]

Was on Cal Ops top10 in NA last season when it was Impact

[serene ingot]

Exotic character t6 45k$ 🎉🎉🤧

[devout void]

sorry we have no mobius

[thin valve]

60 to max 1 gun is diabolical

[karmic chasm]

It’s what we need

[true mauve]

Chappy dmg is 591 for a headshot idk why it cuts the clip

[twilit thistle]

I only said exotic bc it allows them to release characters like cayde or eris morn(and of course real Rossi) in a way that they are perfect at release

[candid phoenix]

NOO THEY'RE NERFING HOOF

[thin valve]

i re-watched it 10 times thinking im missing something

[true mauve]

Lol same I kept thinking Discord was messed up

[karmic chasm]

I’m against that tbh, just from an affordability standpoint. Cayde would be a fine anniversary mythic

[thin valve]

It will revive game for a week

[sharp talon]

i was thinking more like dokkan battle ezas if you guys play that game

[hasty ocean]

Wait what?!

[wraith totem]

how do you know?

[karmic chasm]

A week and a half, Jaren was a week 😭

[candid phoenix]

Aura effects won't stack after maintenance, it's in the notes

[devout void]

ir yut + izanagi or symmetry + tatara for umeko arc expanse ? wondering

[candid phoenix]

So we can't just spam hoof everywhere anymore :(

[twilit thistle]

Wouldn’t need to be expensive tbh. Could follow the same model as the rest,idk how to balance it tbh

[hasty ocean]

HHHEELLL NNAAWWW

[karmic chasm]

Just keep him mythic, it would be fine.
Ikora, one of the strongest warlocks, is literally a 4* 😭

[twilit thistle]

Exotic Rossi tho is a must. Rossi is the character of 2025 be honest. Fan favorite. (Not considering Meta and all that). Goat status

[candid phoenix]

it really feels like mythic ikora is the next character

[bitter estuary]

ir yut is wack i can confirm

[candid phoenix]

she's mentioned in the seal challenge, plus it's a crowd control boost in the season artifact

[sharp talon]

theres no character qeust as well like kabr

[prisma nest]

mythic ikora should be d1 ikora

[hasty ocean]

PLS BE A SOLAR WARHAMMER TITAN PLS

[twilit thistle]

Mythic Rossi would be powercrept by legendary Rossi it’s for Rossi 2’s protection

[wraith totem]

Oof weak patch notes

[karmic chasm]

Maru change was everything

[gritty rune]

He problem is that unless they just completely rework his kit, he won’t be good in the current state of the game.

But then he won’t feel like Rossi

The game currently just favours high mobility, high burst damage characters

[prisma nest]

does anybody play wei ning or nah

[gritty rune]

Also arc is just a mess because Ning and helhest exists

[prisma nest]

wait its uh

xuan wei

mb

[gritty rune]

He’s good in PvP but that’s about it

[twilit thistle]

Yea at this point they need to be asking bungie for help tbh. Hate d2 if you must. D2 isn’t having this issue tho. Along the numerous other issues.

[true mauve]

Biggest issue is where are the Solar and Void weapons at for him?

[sharp talon]

i wondered if these reworked characters were supposed to be involved in the campaign somehow. that's why kabr doesn't have a story quest yet

[true mauve]

Fr we need Darius mythic and Rossi legendary

[twilit thistle]

🙏 netease just let bungie guide you back to the light

[mint tendon]

Lol

[urban quail]

What’s hoof

[gritty rune]

I think being a gacha is just screwing the game over.

Every new character needs to be meta to sell but you also can’t nerf characters so they don’t want to bring out new gear and weapon much.

Like we got 1 new gun for the entire raid. One. That’s a joke.

Gacha and looter shooter just doesn’t mix

[urban quail]

5 new raid guns

[bitter estuary]

adding a new element or character exclusive mechanic wont work bc this is not genshin impact

[raw glade]

....I thought it would convert to reserve, damnit.

[candid phoenix]

exotic bulwark ops tower, gives a ton of buffs and debuffs enemies. The nerf is that the aura buffs it gives won't stack anymore

[candid phoenix]

time to get onto chaos

[mint tendon]

Jeez

[urban quail]

💀 That sucks bruh

[gritty rune]

I meant exotic sorry. Cos the other guns are kind of nothing really new when it comes to gameplay

[true mauve]

We are severely lacking in exo/mythic weapons and lightbearers. They added 2 new exotics and Jade Rabbit was teased next also this season. Dont forget the 8 new mythic weapons we just got though.

[raw glade]

i might be best off just grinding legendary campaign, 60 per run

[magic yoke]

Asking current bungie for help is asking to fail.....

[candid phoenix]

LCampaign is only 40 with double drops, but either works

[gritty rune]

In fact, are any of Crota’s mythic guns actually good? The shotgun is just horrible

[candid phoenix]

You can't get exotic materials without pinnacle so i ususally spend it in the campaign

[candid phoenix]

The pulse with fire rush and hyperamia sounds good

[gritty rune]

Yeah but the new mythics don’t change up the meta or bring much to the table

[mint tendon]

Fr

[true mauve]

They arnt made to be good. They are made for element coverage and are balanced with the orher mythics in their weapon class

[gritty rune]

In 3 seasons we got 1 new rollable perk

[twilit thistle]

I think it can be saved tho, if they let like whoever leads bungies programming department just give them orders temporarily or something. they need guidance on what to fix and how to fix it at this point. hate d2 if you must but it feels better in comparison. Im not forced to only run a hunter

[bitter estuary]

scout is too slow, it's better to use symmetry+tatara gaze if you play umeko

the pulse rifle and machine gun are surprisingly, decent... well if you need element coverage for estela and kabr 4* that is

shotgun is terrible

[mint tendon]

Still finding myself using ning fei

[magic yoke]

you add to many and you get power creep which leads to sunsetting look at destiny 2

[twilit thistle]

They quit doing that

[mint tendon]

Sunsetting the good stuff was a bad idea

[bitter estuary]

fire rush+glutton beloved

[gritty rune]

I mean I don’t that’s a hot take. D2 as much as people like to crap on it, is fun.

DR is currently very stale

[magic yoke]

no they def didnt lol tier system effectively sunset old weapons and season bonus

[true mauve]

Bro idk about you but I am tired of rolling and upgrading exo mods on mythic wpns. I dont want any new perks lol half the ones we have now dont have matching mods yet

[gritty rune]

I don’t think more than 1 in 3 months is ‘too many’

[prisma nest]

cant wait for sunshot 👀

[magic yoke]

thats what i was saying anymore than 1 or 2 maybe and we get sunsetting so i think they are doing a good job how they are rolling it out

[bitter estuary]

esp with the fact that now mods are obtainable w/o pinnacle

[true mauve]

If they didnt just drop 2 new game modes and a worlds race this season id agree. Game is very new, priorities are elsewhere. Give it until year 2 or 3 before they really start adding

[magic yoke]

getting a perfect mod still takes time and if you arent on grinding alot may almost be impossible for some, I know people will just slap on matching perk but stats do matter

[gritty rune]

Why would it need sunsetting? It’s not like we don’t have different perk pools on different weapons and you need to roll 1 perk out of every perk ever

[urban quail]

• I’ve played a ton of Gacha games and DR is the most generous one I’ve ever seen in my life.

• Most Gachas won’t ever make an event to get Kabr guaranteed, most make you sell a leg and arm to get even a single summon.

• My huge complaint is the end game. Sure, release new characters but for the same content? Even Gwynn wipes the floor with the content we have right now except for specific modes.

• My other complaint which I haven’t experienced yet (recently) is Calamity Ops. People say characters get power crept easily during this mode and you get queued with very bad randoms, that sucks for “end game” content.

• All my complaints are about end game, release an infinite wave mode like D2 did but make it permanent. Bulwark Ops works but more for AFK. Imagine a Contest wave mode where people who reach level 50 gets the rewards, this way people don’t complain. There’s more but I’m yapping too much lol

Sorry for rant 🥀🥀

[true mauve]

Stats sometimes > the matching mod tbh. If my match mod is boss/powerful 15% i am not putting that on my Primary, I want base/elite 40%

[sharp talon]

i love that 60 gets u the character and no 50/50

[karmic chasm]

Well no we have Darius legendary, so we need OG Rossi mythic

[karmic chasm]

I was thinking about that

[magic yoke]

it would lead to sunsetting, say total lockdown which has been the best scout they add a new solar scout with more damage and better perks theres no reason to use any other scout making all 3 current scouts useless when all are balanced atm

[true mauve]

Dont come in here and spit truths

[prisma nest]

im not using a bow character no ty

[magic yoke]

Im aware of that but most people you know how community is will slap on matching perk over good stats

[gritty rune]

Idk about you but bulwark is … not fun? It’s really repetitive and badly balanced and the loot is bad. I got bored with it in like 2 days.

Crota, the raid is great. At least the Crota fight itself is great. But I don’t think it has much longevity considering the loot is just not really there unless you are desperate for exotic mods

[twilit thistle]

Alot of the assets are coming from d2 anyways. There are limits to what they can import, obviously. They could borrow the balancing team for sure. And the cosmetic team is killing it on d2.

[raw glade]

Not until Le Monarque arrives

[magic yoke]

the balancing team on d2 is doing a piss poor job lol, look at any d2 forum everyone is complaining about all ability meta and only double special being viable

[prisma nest]

i mean

eriana-3

also very good idea: exo stranger

[magic yoke]

if were adding exos elsie needs to be the first one

[gritty rune]

They could make different weapons have different benefits and drawbacks in different situations and characters.

Like the actual advantage of gachas is that you have a lot of different characters with restricted kits to make weapons for.

[twilit thistle]

ye. this is the same team I remember, its intentional. It changes frequently too. Its so the game feels fresh.

[prisma nest]

elsie is always #1 💯

[magic yoke]

they already do that look at royal contravene and arbalest both are good for different situations

[true mauve]

Bulwark is being slowly tuned and balanced. Patch notes alrdy hinting at that. Crota like all raids dont have longevity once mechanics are memorized but the free exotic mod farm is a step in right direction. I like that they make it so 80% of your rewards are in the first 15 minutes of playing and that the other 20% you can spend 5+ hours mindlessly farming

[devout void]

they sleep on easy money with cosmetic

[gritty rune]

Yes exactly, so can’t we do that for mythics with new perks too?

[magic yoke]

its been ability spam double special for years now, primaries have felt useless outside of lp hunters and pk titans, even look at the last couple contest modes all ability double special

[gritty rune]

It would have had longevity if it was, say, a weekly farm for photons. The things we get 0 of. The reward space is there

[magic yoke]

they do hence ill use scouts again why we have total lockdown for solar, del lassi for void and the new crota one for arc, they are fairly balanced and used for different things. most people will just stick the same element on their character and never change it, its player error

[gritty rune]

Idk about the new scout but the crota shotgun is just worse than the fallen one we got in s2 in every way

[true mauve]

Thats not changing the game mode in any way, only its reward. It would still be boring and repetitive except now you are required to clear it to get a photon. Could be any game mode they do that too, may as well make a monthly log in calendar and put one on each week

[magic yoke]

I mean youre comparing the monster solar one to a new solar one nothing is gonna unseat jarens solar shotgun, but in the raid people used the void one on jaren and octant in certain areas hence we have diversity and different uses

[gritty rune]

Everything is gonna be repetitive eventually.

The reward is a big part of making a piece of content replayable. Hence why the genre is called looter shooter

[magic yoke]

its the way players dont know how to adapt and switch that causes the problem you are talking about