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[sharp talon]

wolf is a better choice tho (in my totally unbiased opinion)

[winged lintel]

Eris isn't a character that only lI want lol she's a huge Destiny character and would bring back way more players than Kabr will, and no one can really deny that. She's that popular

[true mauve]

He is a stepping stone for new players

[cobalt urchin]

They're definitely saving Eris up for when the population declines faster than it is rn

[winged lintel]

if you don't know Destiny characters that's fine, but Eris, toland, ANY of her fireteam, this is what the Destiny players were hoping for

[true mauve]

Save for her, she will show as the messenger for real Crota and help us prep. I bet she is 1st anni character if she is that big of a name

[cobalt urchin]

I mean, they are THE first fireteam in the lore to take on Crota

[winged lintel]

lol that'll be a huge mistake if true, should've pulled all the stops now and at s4 tbh

[true mauve]

Nah, 1st anni to make sure game is ready. S4 will be ALOT of balance changes. Then they need to fine tune in S5 and prep us for 1st Anni

[cobalt urchin]

They're taking their time, which I admire

[true mauve]

Games arnt full fledged until surviving 1 year of community testing and feedback.

[rotund raptor]

Is the aniversary in May?

[true mauve]

August? Sept?

[empty kettle]

The day the game launched

[cobalt urchin]

But I hope things turn around. Wuwa received lots of criticisms at lanch until they improved drastically overtime

[rotund raptor]

Lemme check cuz idk😂

[true mauve]

1 year anni packs crazy return rewards and crazy player rewards to help catch up new people

[winged lintel]

taking their time makes everything they've done and the reception its gotten seem deliberate lol that's definitely not the case. they didn't predict their game would be hemorrhaging players so quickly after launch

[cobalt urchin]

I'm hoping all the bad stuff is just due to the game still being relatively young

And they're still tweaking/experimenting with things (like Helhest)

[winged lintel]

they got boatloads of feedback on pinnacle during every test phase. Still, they needed 4 additional months after announcing they recognize pinnacle is messed up rn before fixing it, and we have no idea what the fix actually will be

[true mauve]

Cody went undercover 👀

[cobalt urchin]

That 65% revenue loss from last month on that gacha revenue site really is hittin

[true mauve]

They hittin it big this season, they know its normal in content lull

[winged lintel]

All i'm saying is i think you're giving NetEase too much credit. They had plenty of wise feedback from people, and deliberately chose to ignore it and now only after the storm has arrived, will they change it

[true mauve]

Now we gonna have too much to do

[rare pawn]

Why i cant use the pinnacle weapons? I mean i cant equip it although i received it. Newbie here

[cobalt urchin]

Nah the bar is low for me cuz I played Destiny 2. It's a me problem

[true mauve]

Coding isnt fast and needs thoroughly tested 😭

[cobalt urchin]

Sucks to be a coder rn, imagine the amounts of junior devs using AI to code

[true mauve]

This is a Live service game not a CD or digital copy we bought and downloaded

[winged lintel]

I played Destiny 1 Beta, Destiny 1, Destiny 2 Beta, and Destiny 2 through Final Shape lol plenty of stoppages in between but yeah I know Destiny pretty well

[empty kettle]

If you are talking about exotics, you can't use two of them at the same time

[winged lintel]

bad ragebait

[rare pawn]

Yeah but i cant even use one

[true mauve]

We are playing a game that is never truly complete and we get every DLC update for free

[cobalt urchin]

Welcome to Destiny?

[rare pawn]

Yeah. I cant even equip one

[true mauve]

Mobile games

[sharp talon]

hopefully wolf can do the precision arc expanse cuz i dont wanna build mythic kabr

[cobalt urchin]

The bar is so low rn. At least the DLC is free 😭 😭 😭 😭

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-barnacles-funny-gif-gif-14509494416451968887

[true mauve]

Mobile games have no end until they EoS

[cobalt urchin]

It sucks, blame corporations

[true mauve]

Its fine, it means the game I play is always changing and adding. Im not stuck with some boring old copy. If its been 5 years then its practically a whole new game compared to year1

[cobalt urchin]

If it survives that long

[true mauve]

Shortly after 1st anni, they have to slow roll what they have already made to squeeze money before EoS. When character cadence drops to 1 every 2-3 months then its a sign

[winged lintel]

I've got helhest pretty much donezo, so she'll do whatever Mythic Kabr is supposed to be meta for, i honestly don't really know what to focus my exotic cores on rn

[true mauve]

If S3 has no other lightbearers but Kabr than yeah its EoS. 3 months 1 dude? Gg

[exotic sinew]

Why is that even a conversation? Who brought one character in 3 months up

[winged lintel]

Act2 says new character on the roadmap so if anything we'll get Xuan2 (puke) if they don't have an actual creative character to give us

[cobalt urchin]

All gacha game communities have doomers

[empty kettle]

The usual

[winged lintel]

nobody said there'd only be 1

[thorny frost]

Mythic Kabr is going to probably be meant for the endless modes, rather tower defense/the one we are getting end of July. Depending on how many mobs spawn could alter how reliable HH is for an endless modes.

[winged lintel]

heavy ammo forever

[exotic sinew]

Been 3-4 months, they sent an email two months saying they took our feedback and will implement it coming March. It takes time. They can’t just change everything in 1 month and expect it to work

[cobalt urchin]

It's also the holidays, expecting them to work during this time is kinda

[winged lintel]

reread what I wrote. i said they've been getting pinnacle feedback (as an example) since the ALPHA of this game. that was a very, very long time ago

[exotic sinew]

Yeah seems like there was a convo bout EoSing if Kabr the only one for 3 months. Idk the context lol

[winged lintel]

no that was if Kabr was limited banner than changed to standard banner after lol

[exotic sinew]

Ah, well, stamina in gacha is a tricky topic and they usually always have them. I just wanted more stamina in this game, with a few more ways to spend them

[cobalt urchin]

Only one person's talking about end of service

[thorny frost]

~ points to depending on how many mobs spawn part ~ HH can even run out of heavy ammo if mobs start taking to long to kill. If we get a floor with like multiple “powerful” enemies and no fodder she will burn through it faster.

[exotic sinew]

Could happen, I mean, they are giving him for free

[exotic sinew]

Ah and it’s the usual one at that…

[winged lintel]

his t0 yeah, making him a standard banner after that after people use their saved up limited, see that being a problem?

[cobalt urchin]

The usual one? Lol

[winged lintel]

yeah criticism of this game is frowned upon here :/

[exotic sinew]

Happened in Genshin with a new standard unit but they did say it would become standard after

[thorny frost]

If they say in his actual banner he will be in permanent banner afterwards would create no issue.

[cobalt urchin]

Honestly it's your fault for considering everyone here is open-minded

[empty kettle]

We are getting endless mode as one of the things we can do on tower defense

[winged lintel]

exactly, which they haven't done here. I've already said before that if they were unambiguously honest about what will happen with this character, that would be an improvment

[exotic sinew]

The messages were blocked by them for a reason when I entered the chat - just a big doomposter

[winged lintel]

lolol yeah my bad, nobody criticize this game anymore in the official community for it!

this community is definitely special

[cobalt urchin]

Nah I mean the internet gives the... slower ones a voice too :3

[thorny frost]

And the end of Janurary mode will also have endless.

[exotic sinew]

Criticism is one thing, constantly putting the game down in front of others is another. I see mentors being awful to new players in the casual chat at times

[empty kettle]

Two game modes with endless mode, this is peak

[winged lintel]

is that even a reply or just something you wanted to say to me lol

[exotic sinew]

I mean I doubt they will make him standard

[winged lintel]

uhhh im sorry if you had to see negative things in here i guess

[cobalt urchin]

Bro I've been in shifting gates with people telling new lights to get more buff bonuses when they don't even know what that is. Their tone makes me cringe

[winged lintel]

yeah some new lights can be jerks lol

[exotic sinew]

Telling a new player in game to F off for thinking the game was fun is a bit negative yeah

[cobalt urchin]

Oh all new lights I meet are open-minded

[winged lintel]

oh well, i don't do that stuff and i'm pretty sure if it was done in here they'd be banned or at least temp suspended

[exotic sinew]

New lights are awesome to play with, and I try to make it fun so they want to stick around

[cobalt urchin]

I'm sorry I'm typing on a big iPad I got for chrisymas and I'm not used to it

[winged lintel]

some of them are fine, some are unreasonably abrasive

[empty kettle]

Give it time

[exotic sinew]

Well as I said it was in the casual chat and this behavior isn’t just by one person. It’s the internet after all, but you’d think mentors would welcome new lights not push them away

[exotic sinew]

I feel this. I hit the . Between every word instead of a space when typing in safari… its irritating

[cobalt urchin]

There's this video of a dude who showcased a little easter egg of following Morgan after Morgan's Hunt to get 10 lumia leaves.

The comments are toxic af such as: "Lol just 10 lumia leaves" "10 cents to chase an nlc around?"

[exotic sinew]

It’s 20, you get a triumph done too

[winged lintel]

well one person isn't a monolith, and yeah that happens, it happens in literally every game with a public chat

[cobalt urchin]

This community has a lot of special people, it's no wonder the population is declining fast

[thorny frost]

I will say the mentor system…. Really doesn’t support actually being a mentor. Getting the exact same points for random emotes in chat, and actually giving advice is crazy.

[empty kettle]

They should just appreciate the fact that they get any pull currency, compared to dragon ball legends where that will dry up after awhile

[winged lintel]

the community is not the reason the game is declining in players tbh

[cobalt urchin]

Not the biggest, but it is

[winged lintel]

not even the 3rd biggest reason

[exotic sinew]

: : - i say it a lot, the doomposters are always louder than the players enjoying the game and providing feedback through surveys/suggestions

[winged lintel]

i think the definition of a doomposter has changed so much that it can mean anything negative at this point

[exotic sinew]

Yeah I don’t like the system much either and it’s far too dragged on. Hope they adjust it sometime in the future

[winged lintel]

180 days of commenting in mentor chat is insane (as an adept mentor challenge) lol

[exotic sinew]

Doomposter is just someone who is negative about the future events of a game, being pessimistic about their predictions. I guess you could say it’s someone putting a game down consistently too, but I digress

[cobalt urchin]

I think that's a bigger issue like the loneliness epidemic

[winged lintel]

yeah exactly, so if someone doesn't like some part of the new content coming out, and comments that in here, by your defitinion they're a doomposter, which im sorry that's ridiculous and babyish

[exotic sinew]

I’m not lonely. I’m alone. There’s a difference

[cobalt urchin]

Lots of people are more negative nowadays

[thorny frost]

I would have honestly prefer a system where you could decrease your light value to match the game mode. That way you could play with new lights/lower level players and help them learn game play instead of steamrolling content (i dont want to adjust my equipment if searching for people to help).

[tight talon]

They should just remove it. Rather get a voting system through Endgame cards that basically give mentor status.

Like playing with new lights = commendations on end for anything Acclaim+10 did something.

Revived me, killed boss quick, jumping puzzle help and so on.

A rep system that actually has 4-5 parameters instead of just 180 of like for like or commenting

[exotic sinew]

No that’s how it’s always been defined lol

[cobalt urchin]

Snufkin?

[winged lintel]

criticism is doomposting? that's a bad opinion

i've said all i can say lol if you really believe that then i think we're done

[white fossil]

found this lil bird in the realm of the ix, gave me a triumph 🙏

[winged lintel]

there's another one too 🙂

[cobalt urchin]

Will get to it now, thanks

[exotic sinew]

It’s not criticism though. Doomposting is only negative. It’s usually a baseless prediction that a game or character will fail, die, or be terrible, focusing on negativity instead of criticism. Criticism would provide actual feedback on how the game could improve and points the flaws out. It’s not just crapping on something just to crap on it

[bitter estuary]

i feel like ppl's criticism here has been very tame (compared to reddit)

i think ppl aren't doomposting, the current state of the game is just awful

[thorny frost]

I honestly see plenty of people criticizing aspects of the game and it is fine. But if you see one person who never has anything good to say, or who will just bash anyone who does like a part of the game then it changes.

[white fossil]

another bird in the realm of the ix?

[winged lintel]

disagreeing with someone is not doomposting lol for the record i know you're agreeing with me

[cobalt urchin]

Guys it's pretty easy to distinguish criticism (mentor card) and being negative (End of service)

[exotic sinew]

The main difference is in the intent, doomposting is vague negativity/defeatism, whereas criticism is targeted, analytical, and solution-oriented, even if it's negative feedback

[winged lintel]

how do you discern intent, cause i feel like people in here just assume intent

[cobalt urchin]

Both are true.

[thorny frost]

Jaren not having enough uptime on welling light stacks/stag protection state. Vs Jaren is horrible and netease fails at making characters.

[winged lintel]

I have stated why exactly i think Kabr2 is a bad idea this early in the game. that's not doomposting, that's a criticism backed with a reason.... guys its okay to just disagree, disagreements aren't evil and they sure as hell aren't doomposting

[bitter estuary]

no i'm referring to kronos

doomposting on current content is fair bc everyone has opinions on it, ESPECIALLY on pvp, BUT negatively posting about future patches that isn't predictions is honestly not a good thing, sure i've slipped before and i acknowledge my mistakes but you do get what i mean

[exotic sinew]

If they come in here to say the game is bad with no reason attached to it and no opinion on a solution, it is not criticism. It’s simply negative feedback- and if they go further and say the game won’t survive, it turns into doomposting. The intent is in the text.

I see multiple do this here, every day. If you cannot understand this, then I’m done explaining it

[cobalt urchin]

Damn it really gets negative here fast

[empty kettle]

Pretty normal

[fluid aurora]

Anyone still doing the dawning web link to join a fire team?

[past flame]

I really don’t see the point of posting negative comments everyday like do u not have something else better to do with ur life instead of spreading negative energy 💀

[devout horizon]

Can’t this be said about positive stuff too

[winged lintel]

how do you think changes are made to things in life?

[bitter estuary]

if they say "the game won't survive because they did X" it's bad criticism, but if they bring up crucial key points of the game's flaws which the devs are not acknowledging it, then the game might die quick because that'd make players quit

[exotic sinew]

On another note does it look like my Jolder is getting punched in her butt?

[past flame]

Debatable

[bitter estuary]

so far they're gonna be testing pinnacle-less mod loot pool and more pinnacle for the next patch so again, expectations are higher than usual but still expect the worse case because of the current state of the game

[past flame]

By suggesting one time to the devs and moving on? We can’t change anything here

[devout horizon]

Yeah we can lmao

[past flame]

Do u work with the devs or something

[devout horizon]

This is the official server for the game. If we’re gonna complain about actual issues, this is the place to do it

[winged lintel]

childish way to think about it but okay

[winged lintel]

literally this. people need to grow up

[past flame]

There’s something called support u can contact them

[past flame]

Ok bro whatever have a nice day

[empty kettle]

We got this https://discord.com/channels/1267806213656023071/1377666354961715291

[exotic sinew]

Plus it’s starting to confuse people on what real constructive criticism is. Saying the game will die in your “feedback” at all, isn’t constructive in my eyes. It’s like “do this or else we will complain more”

[tight talon]

Gonna be honest here, you get 2x fast stacks as long as you accept to use Old Perfect and leave the sunken cost fallacy with Last Word.

Too many people have dumped money for TLW and then try to glaze it as only one choice that Jaren can run

[devout horizon]

I think this is boiling down to you not wanting to see criticism.

[past flame]

That’s what I’m saying

[thorny frost]

Discussion is important, because honestly players don’t all have the same perspectives and interests and nor do devs. One thing I found interesting running across a DNA “state of thing” post from a player was the idea that “mobile gamers don’t want to feel like they need to grind”, which is the opposite of what it feels like is being said on this discord. Devs need to see who their player base truly are, likely hood one suggestion won’t get the true root of the matter distinguished as much as a discussion.

[bitter estuary]

so you're gonna expect this server to look like a dead town or something??? hello???

also atp delete this discord and let the players only use the feedback button in the in-game settings for "suggestions"

[winged lintel]

yes

[dusty spire]

At this point I let em moan lol always same individuals tbf

[exotic sinew]

He wants to justify it which puts a negative impact on future criticism that actually could be constructive. Why I wanted to digress earlier, but yeah let’s just call it and go back to Error 😂

[tight talon]

Even though it's 1/3rd as efficient

1st being bugged Cata 3

Second being stacks only generate when you are shooting.

OP generates stacks while shooting and also while target is Scorched. You can reload and you will still earn stacks

[devout horizon]

The game is having a decline as of this moment. It’s very much recoverable, but we’ll see how netease goes about doing it. After rethinking the free draws, I do believe it could rope in new and old old players to get back and give them a chance recover while everyone is here

[abstract cedar]

pineapple belongs on pizza

[winged lintel]

Eris would've brought in more but :/

[cobalt urchin]

Wrong opinion

[tight talon]

Anchovies don't

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/miguel-o'hara-miguel-ohara-spiderverse-stare-meme-gif-13075012571073130429

[bitter estuary]

this is not a mainline, plus we might get her wayy later instead lol

[devout horizon]

Lmao true

[winged lintel]

if you enjoy it 🙂

[abstract cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/ananas-pineapple-pizza-watt-italians-favourite-gif-6365865546685652234

[winged lintel]

just saying there is literally no one who could argue Kabr is more popular than Eris

[devout horizon]

The vex milk is pretty infamous

[empty kettle]

Might get her when we are preparing to fight OUR Crota

[thorny frost]

I will admit I don’t play Jaren enough to know, I was painting an idea of constructive criticism vs composting for recent events that I have seen on the discord. The bit I have played of him, his hand cannon stacks do seem to vanish to fast, specially comparing what HH can do with her skill vs his more “skill” oriented way.

[cobalt urchin]

Because they'd be wrong

[abstract cedar]

also kangaroo pizza sounds good right about now, maybe some hagis on it too

[winged lintel]

idk if you've actaully had hagis befoe but it's delicious

[devout horizon]

I do look forward to seeing how they make the new kabr different and what the lore possibilities are now available with 2 of the same person being around.

Vault of glass shenanigans? More likely than you think

[bitter estuary]

oh that's fair

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-what-youre-doing-ronald-brandon-dating-around-i-know-what-youre-up-to-gif-17760750

[cobalt urchin]

I gave up playing Jaren in an "optimal way" unless I use the emulator on pc

[bitter estuary]

so in 10 years time? ok

[abstract cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[empty kettle]

Woah now, let's not extend the Crota plot for 10 years

[tight talon]

Is alright. Dw. There's just a certain way to play as efficiently as possible that everyone has to accept after a period of time. And this discord and certain people after spending money on it swear by that monotonic builds that never work or get bugged.

As for HH situation, she's there to use drones so everyone moves faster from A to B. And generate data on teammate kills. Her self kill data generator is pretty bad at T0 compared to earning data through teammates instead

[thorny frost]

Spreading out “hype” units also isn’t bad. We just got Jaren, so having a not so hype unit next and giving something new with it isn’t bad.

[empty kettle]

True

[exotic sinew]

Friend just got all gold rolls on Helhest to T10 - now T6 Helhest at 76k Power

[cobalt urchin]

T10? I thoight tiers reached up to 6 only

[devout horizon]

Attribute level 10

[exotic sinew]

Attribute tiers not talent

[tight talon]

It's called lvl 10 Exotic Artifacts

[cobalt urchin]

I guess you really do learn smth everyday

[exotic sinew]

Took him… since the start of Helhest to get the mats to upgrade these rolls

Almost 2 months, basically

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-hart-kevin-hart-damn-gif-22709278

[exotic sinew]

My Maru is 75.1k, I couldn’t imagine pushing every artifact to 3200 or whatever the max is at 85

Yeah he been in the mines, farming daily

[thorny frost]

For HelHest I was comparing her guaranteed head shots vs Jaren as they were similar mechanics. I feel Helhest getting 6 when higher talent every 20 seconds semi beats out the 4 primary and 4 secondary Jaren gets (specially that RC only eats one per burst). Jaren I feel should have similar where it eats up one per trigger pull, or he should get more Handcannon welling light stacks. But again I have had limited play time actually with him so I definitely would take others advice on him over mine.

[empty kettle]

The chaos mines are not for the weak

[exotic sinew]

Shotgun stacks can go up to 6, but I agree I think both having 8 stacks at T5 would’ve been much better than blind lasting 1s longer at T5

Or just straight up 5 stacks base, then at T5 it goes up to 10 so you could use all the ammo in your guns

[thorny frost]

Doesn’t shotgun get only 4 per activation of stag protection? I know it can stack up to 8, but that is similar to HH stacking 12 shots (which she can do running between destination too).

[exotic sinew]

Is it 8 or 6? Yeah it gets 4 per activation, I said it can go up to 6(or 8 I guess)

HH 12 stacks feels like 36 due to Royal Contravene lol

His T5 and T4 is just a bit meh. I want them to rework them entirely and just make Jaren feel better

Then the last word C3 is bugged supposedly and does no dmg for the last shot of each magazine

[cobalt urchin]

I love Queenbreaker Royal Contravene

[tight talon]

You can totally store 8 shots on Handcannon or Shotgun if you wanted to. You have that liberty.

Yes on T0

[thorny frost]

K I was just making sure I understood correct then. And yea, RC synergizes really well with her stack mechanics, but Jaren hand cannons eat his stacks to fast in comparison. Which is why I felt that part of his welling light stacks could use more/better optimization.

[exotic sinew]

T5 needs to change to 10 welling light stacks, SUGGESTION time

[thorny frost]

I honestly also wonder how often HH T2 ability generates data analysis in practice, feel she kills to fast to really optimize with it (not that she needs a buff), but I guess it might be a safety net for if there is longer lasting boss fights later on. Her T2 and Jaren’s T5 seem to be the least useful for current game modes.

[exotic sinew]

I spelled it right the first time too. It really wanted me to digest it

Her T2 is what, more generation of data?

[soft bobcat]

Ranged Health Shield.. hmm last one Defense or Healing? I prob woulda went with Healing over Ranged

[exotic sinew]

Helhest’s talents are all good. 1 is insta max lv on the drone. Then T2 I think is data generation, but it is a bit slow. However when you get T4, you get more data storage and this makes T2 useful.

[exotic sinew]

He has ALL gold rolls. It’s not showing 2 of the rolls. He has T10 healing

Not showing weapon enhancement or healing bonus but both at T10. He has one of the best Helhests in the game

[soft bobcat]

Ah true yea Ranged is a gold roll for Helhest

[exotic sinew]

Absolutely can wreck an overseer boss like it’s a heroic one

[thorny frost]

When ever an opponent is inflicted with data analysis is on the field she generates one data every 15 seconds. The issue is that to have data analysis the enemy needs to be attacked by herself or an ally with her buffs. So likely hood is the enemy is dieing fast and time isn’t generating at anything substantial.

[exotic sinew]

In overseer where enemies can last longer, it’s not too bad. I said I think it’s too slow and it is. Should be 6 seconds or so

Last phase of this overseer summons so many solar shields, can Salvo a bunch of them and focus servitor, will have an ammo brick in 15 seconds when you’re ready to kill them and boss

Probably is her weakest talent, but not useless like Jaren’s T5

[thorny frost]

She doesn’t need a buff currently tho, just was wondering how much it actually adds for an actual run. Does it even produce a full ammo crate by the end? Honestly we might see more use for her ability come endless mode as things should slowly survive longer. But yea it is still better than Jaren’s.

[bronze smelt]

Are the emergencies and their modifiers in shifting gates on a rotation?

[short locust]

Or, how about a similar mechanic to HH's Salvo where you don't spend stacks until the timed Stag Protection buff is over?

[exotic sinew]

That should just be part of the kit already

Make it feel like a true burst

Would make T6 truly have a full rotation if they land enough headshots

[short locust]

I mean I could argue that for damn near every essential talent in the game agreed but I'm just spit balling. To me Jaren feels like he needs to get as many stacks as possible as quick as he can to keep momentum, which is really fun, so this change would suit that

[exotic sinew]

Yeah, I agree. Why I said it would give him a true full rotation

You focus on hitting as headshots as you can to proc drag stag burst then in that burst you could potentially hit enough shots to proc another burst right after

[short locust]

Pop stag, burst abilities, shoot during downtime as you race against the clock. Sounds fun, becuase without Welling light, he feels awful to shoot with

[exotic sinew]

T6 would have perma stag mode if there’s enough enemies to head shot

Yeah he does. I only enjoy shooting octant with him without welling light stacks or his enhanced blazing shot

[short locust]

Pre nerf T6 already did that, which I presume is why he was nerfed from preview to launch. This could put him back to that, but in a way that's more actively player driven

[exotic sinew]

I thought they were going to remove the amount of stacks needed for the burst mode but maybe I read it wrong

[soft bobcat]

He feels a lot better in first person. For some reason 3rd person is really weird with him.

[exotic sinew]

Like 48 stacks to 32-40 or something

[short locust]

Alternatively they could go the HH route and just lower the Stag stack limit to 36 or whatever

[soft bobcat]

But yea needs more stag

[exotic sinew]

Yeah, there’s multiple ways to buff Jaren’s T5 and his core kit and make him feel at least comparable to Maru. Helhest is still in another league

I’d say Helhest is SSS Tier. Maru is S tier. Jaren is A + almost S tier

[short locust]

HH was bad for the health of the game without a doubt

[exotic sinew]

Should’ve been a 2.0 unit lol

[short locust]

Should've never been able to mess with the ammo economy imo

[vagrant hound]

Is there a dmg spreadsheet for destiny rising?

[dusty spire]

Maru SSS

[vagrant hound]

Someone in game was trying to claim that Jaren was stronger than Helhest

[exotic sinew]

Heal, CC, damage, ranged, auto headshots… then heavy ammo regen. That should’ve stayed a weapon’s job like there’s an exotic auto rifle that can generate power ammo

Maru is my favorite don’t get me wrong, but she’s not on Helhest’s level

[short locust]

Jaren is imo the most fun unit to play, but his ability loop has a glaring hole in it, which in turn rips a gaping hole in his weapon damage output

[exotic sinew]

They tried to fix the loop with T6, and even though I have T6 there’s still downtime

[indigo solar]

Not exactly

[indigo solar]

Definitely wrong

[exotic sinew]

They were baiting

[vagrant hound]

Yeah for sure

[short locust]

Nah they had a loop with pre release T6 and then nerfed it. It used to refund both charges of Blazing, so you could back to back 3x from 1

[exotic sinew]

Yeah that would have been pretty fun. They could just make T5 give two charges of blazing shot and it’ll feel similar to this

[vocal mango]

Same as Christmas btw, a secret for a secret

[soft bobcat]

That doesn't add up if September is supposed to be 7th how is March the 12th? 🤔

[exotic sinew]

Talents suppose to sell you the solution. What is his T5 solving

[vagrant hound]

1s of thinking

[short locust]

Im all for Jaren buffs. The most recent one opened up Old Prefect as an option which was cool. Just need a solution for his looping, and then maybe his super CD getting reduced a lil

[vocal mango]

Crimson still better and I stand on it

[abstract cedar]

that was originally from the old calendar before we switched to the gregorian calendar

[exotic sinew]

Prefect is better than Crimson for a Jaren for sure. C3 needed though with all the + range infusions(basically 6 infusions) so you can make use of the 20m blazing shot… crimson can overheal though allowing Jaren to use ring of conversion which is neat

[short locust]

I mean the whole reason to use prefect is so I can passively generate stag while firing off my ability cycles. Specifically to avoid having to dedicate time to shooting standalone

[vocal mango]

Well up to you tryna not play the game as much as possible

[exotic sinew]

Plus it can handle spread units

[short locust]

Heaven forbid I wanna high noon ppl more often 🥀

[exotic sinew]

How is trying not to stand still and shoot = not trying to play the game

He just wanna move, let him groove

[vocal mango]

Yk there's a thing called moving and shooting?

[short locust]

I'm flying around like a maniac playing Jaren lmao, he floats during Blazing and his ult which is funny

[vocal mango]

Yea idk why they decided that lmao

[exotic sinew]

@vocal mango you are the one that said he was not trying to play the game as much because he didn’t want to sit still and shoot. Now you’re trying to flip the script by saying this

SMH, you’re not gaslighting no one with this. You probably didn’t know what they meant at first and now you’re covering it up

[vagrant hound]

That's cuz its high noon

[short locust]

I just weave some prefect shots in between my ability spam just so I can spam it some more

That 70% Ability buff artifact is super fun

[vocal mango]

Do you fly on high noon?

[vagrant hound]

When I'm feeling frisky

[vagrant hound]

I just switched to that artifact

[vocal mango]

What's it called

[short locust]

Bellicose Veil

[vocal mango]

Beli?

[vagrant hound]

Still trying to get solar boost on my artifacts

Signature won't leave me alone

[short locust]

I use Sig/Ability/Solar

If I can snag weapon on top, GG

[exotic sinew]

Gotta use Rampaging planet with it

[vagrant hound]

All my artifacts have weapon, ability, signature, and super

Need that solar boost

[exotic sinew]

It’s best with T6 though - bellicose and rampaging that is. You’ll be able to blazing shot more and make more use out of these artifacts

[wicked mountain]

The gun gacha going on is just cosmetics for jaren right? Nothing actually needed?

[exotic sinew]

Just cosmetics

[wicked mountain]

Ok cool. Thanks!

[short locust]

I thought about it, but a global 25% felt more worth it to me, since the Sig difference is only 12% between those 2

[exotic sinew]

It’s only to absolutely push the blazing shot dmg up and see big deeps

150-170k blazing shot spams

[short locust]

If it didn't need to ramp up, or the damage bonus was bigger I would use it

[vocal mango]

Yk what's funny, i was stuck on 615000 power or whatever it is, and as soon as I reached acclaim 20 I could insta get to power 680000, this is so unbalanced

[exotic sinew]

Each shot doing it and you can ramp up easily, using old prefect

[short locust]

Yeah it's easy, but it needs to ramp up. Which slows me down a lot. By the time it's capped, I've already let off one of my blazings, or wasted time shooting

[vagrant hound]

I don't feel like a trusted adult. Cuz I can't post a screenshot

[short locust]

It's big number brain go brr, but not practical imo

[exotic sinew]

Why I said prefect only decent at T6. Jaren has a few builds to use. Octant is one, and that’s probably my favorite. Need Inverted Fury/Bellicose Planet with arc boost, then you focus on landing 8 shots at once hitting 400k+ shots

[vocal mango]

Getting the first gold medal is almost impossible compared to after acclaim 19 cuz you get better able to upgrade more

[exotic sinew]

It’s more fun and that matters more sometimes

[vocal mango]

Gee finally, now all I'm missing is that void lmg and prefect

[short locust]

I'd argue it's less fun having to waste time jumping through hoops but if you enjoy it, I won't tell you no

[exotic sinew]

Doesn’t feel like I’m going through hoops, feels almost instant. T6 helps I guess

Ima go eat, peace

[vagrant hound]

Prefect is so far off. I need 3 more

[vocal mango]

Bro how do I still not have prefect, I use 60 pin for the blitz auto complete thing, thats 9% a day, and I've been doing that for so longgg

[short locust]

I got one randomly a long time ago it collected dust until recently, and I had like 7 exotic engrams just chillin in my inventory

[vocal mango]

And I've done blitz so many times myself and used the double pin rewards

[tight talon]

This game is dead, why not bots for this ew

[vocal mango]

Should chosen the start right now popup when it came

[tight talon]

Nah

[vocal mango]

Then don't whine that ur not in lmao

[tight talon]

what's that supposed to do eitherways

And doesn't literally GM Blitz allow bots, so why not in normal Onslaught

[short locust]

4 man Tabernacle

[true basin]

I’m surprised no one has abused the 3d printing feature yet

[vocal mango]

Converging gravity is the worst modifier ever invented in gaming

[thin valve]

nobody left in game to abuse it

[vocal mango]

Does this go back to 40 at the end of the week?

Chat is so dead 🥀

[indigo solar]

Man when are we getting the Riviks and Wright AR

[empty kettle]

Where did you find this?

[indigo solar]

There was an ad campaign in September

SUROS is actually in it but it was still kinetic

[karmic chasm]

I just want Ikelos

[indigo solar]

Also when are we getting this Superblack shader

[indigo solar]

There's a possibility in 6 months when we finally get inside Rasputin's bunker we're defending in Bulwark

[little marten]

what date does season 3 start 🙂

[karmic chasm]

Ikelos smg on my Ning would be as close to my d2 guardian as I can get

[empty kettle]

30

[karmic chasm]

I’m ready but I’m like so not ready.

In the good news, I pushed to 2nd place Rossi again against all odds. 1st place is a guy with Ning artifacts : D

[short locust]

2nd place is just the first to lose 💅

I'll work on the ragebait I promise 😭

[soft bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/im-gonna-scissor-kick-you-in-the-back-of-the-head-texas-ranger-talladega-nights-ill-fight-you-attack-gif-21688563

[short locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373116730322456648/1377055386317754543/attachment.gif

[karmic chasm]

This isn’t a straight race though. It’s an endurance contest. And I will be number 1

https://tenor.com/view/all-might-one-for-all-all-for-one-deku-my-hero-academia-gif-26423801

[empty kettle]

We should expect a early access showcase tomorrow or Sunday

[cyan tide]

Gotta start saving pinnacle to have it full for next season

[tight talon]

Tomorrow should be your first day

[cyan tide]

Technically sunday should be, but I'm starting tomorrow because I want to do onslaught and LC after reset

[vocal mango]

Wt are we talking abt saving pin

[verbal pilot]

save it all, dont worry the extra goes into a bank account

[hidden carbon]

So you can spend pinnacle in the new season to unlock the new weapons and chance at the new exotics

[cyan tide]

Mostly to farm Kabr's new set

[karmic chasm]

Ever just run solo GM strike bc you’re bored
Jaren slaps

[winged lintel]

Dec 30th

[vocal mango]

yo does anyone wanna do morgrans hunt together, I want a good score and my teamates are kinda bad

[marble creek]

does anybody know when "den new year celebration" is availible on EMEA servers?

I normally play evening/night and have never seen it.

[vocal mango]

bruh i got a acclaim 7 in my morgren

[karmic chasm]

Hold on let me find a Morgran stat page that made me cry

[rotund raptor]

Hello

[novel sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1300881191087509548/1446569112934420520/ezgif.com-optimize.gif

[true mauve]

Anyone for morgran or cal ops expert?

[cyan tide]

31st at 10pm server time, idk what timezone EMEA uses

[willow thorn]

guys how to get last word?

[cyan tide]

Lvl 50 bp or lvl 10 if you buy premium bp

[willow thorn]

ooh

[earnest bane]

I’m going to drop my silly drops in a sec. Stand by…

Awww you can’t post pics here

[cyan tide]

You can at rank 2 or 3

[orchid mountain]

How you get your name to have a character next to it?

[hidden carbon]

Was a limited time server event for special server roles

[karmic chasm]

Oh wait we can’t do it anymore? I’m glad I was around, geez

[vocal mango]

argonis or wtv was 35 acclaim above me...

AssassinCat died every round first second in and was spamming help me help me help me
and ofc Argomnis got a jotunn

[empty kettle]

The average DR teammates

[rotund raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/help-freddie-benson-icarly-s3-e4-i-go-public-gif-3017322033603944027

[hidden carbon]

Yeah i forgot to do it cause couldn’t decide

[vocal mango]

how tf do you deal under 1% dmg

as a jaren which has crazy dps

[cyan tide]

#🛡️iron-medley-vow

[rotund raptor]

He propably new or hasnt leveled jaren tha much

[cyan tide]

You should still be able to get the roles, no? The channel is still there

[vocal mango]

its enough to enter the morgren tho, its definitly enough

[rotund raptor]

Even his weapons are lvl 70

[vocal mango]

also they frickin chose the one where only on e person can damage the powerful enemy and the other 2 get like 95% less damage to that enemy....

[rotund raptor]

The duelist one?

[vocal mango]

he was 50k power... Ima just report this guy for passive play

[vocal mango]

yes bro 😭

[karmic chasm]

Bruh

[rotund raptor]

Nahhh dont dont do it

No matter what i do i cant get the 500k round in morgans

[vocal mango]

Bro i litteraly solod this 250k 😭

with a mod that makes me deal 75% less damage

Also by the time I killed my jailer, the other two guys havent even popped their bubble above them 😭

[hoary kiln]

Got this notif, who is it 🤔
Its already late in the season

[rotund raptor]

Hmm

[vocal mango]

Its either jaren or adept kabr

[karmic chasm]

Interesting. That looks like Kabr, the Resolute

[hoary kiln]

But it sounds like hes already out

Some of these notifs are wack

[pulsar coral]

Is Ikora good now

[karmic chasm]

For like 4 more days

[vocal mango]

She was always good if you built her

[pulsar coral]

Yeah lmao I've got her at T6 and enough resources to get her to 70k tomorrow

[karmic chasm]

I had her at T6 but still felt that Maru was more fun

[hoary kiln]

Nah, shes the big bad of the series
We will raid against her

[pulsar coral]

But I never really tried playing her since i didnt like her abilities

[vocal mango]

I finally just got tailed fox, was rocking double shot autoloading holster cluster bomb rockets those were so good

[pulsar coral]

Yeah same I like maru's playstyle much more
Thought it was more...explosive

[rotund raptor]

I run dvarger drill on her even tho i have 2 tailed foxs

[pulsar coral]

I was just asking to decide whether or not I should run her to get to master ii since im in master i rn

[vocal mango]

Wait can mods transfer between the same weapon type?

[karmic chasm]

The same identical weapon, but not the same type, unless you dismantle an exotic off of another gun

[vocal mango]

k good
wait if you dismantle it, you keep it?

[meager falcon]

Why can’t I do the shining star entry? Every time I click to login via discord it blank screens me

[vocal mango]

yall think adept kabr will be meta?

[indigo solar]

If it's exotic, yes, but you lose the upgrades and 70% of the material invested in upgrading it, unless you have another exotic mod equipped in the same slot

[vocal mango]

oh cool, ive always thought itd be deleted, I put not trait fitting mods on my lmg when I started lmao

[indigo solar]

It used to be until about a month ago

[vocal mango]

ah thats why

[cyan tide]

The lottery? Phase 1 already ended, next one is going to be on the 31st

[finite timber]

@dusk kiln blud

[karmic chasm]

I think that Helhest will be meta

[pulsar coral]

Helhest will be meta until the end of time

[exotic apex]

Yup

[hoary kiln]

Waiting for netease to tier gap her and everyone else

[vocal mango]

fastest time yet

[karmic chasm]

2:35 with that sparrow is crazy good!

[upbeat forge]

Yo

[karmic chasm]

What’s up man!

[upbeat forge]

Hey man! 👋😄

[empty kettle]

It all depends on how well his new kit synergies with his weapons and weapon mastery

[karmic chasm]

In your opinion, what weapons would Rossi’s kit have better synergy with? Or is it good enough

[vocal mango]

Yea the sparrow is complete dog

[glacial nova]

This game will manage to force all the new characters to become meta for 99% of players, no worries, the content revolves around the strengths of a new character.

[vocal mango]

I mean its basically just whoever pays gets on top lmao

[empty kettle]

Idk tbh

[true mauve]

I found an oob near fish pond

[true mauve]

Leaderboards say otherwise

[vocal mango]

How do you think they got that t6

[glacial nova]

a lot of whales don't go on the top, give character not T6 to the top player they will always find a way or use something more niche, even for Eclipse with fairplay it was mostly famous name in top 10

[vocal mango]

😭

[karmic chasm]

Help a brotha out

[vocal mango]

Not the 0.85% damage guy

[runic citrus]

how long to level up cap level?

[vocal mango]

very easy

[true mauve]

Considering #1 NA uses Ning and Ikora on team...

[vocal mango]

it took me 2 whole minutes to scroll to the top

[true mauve]

Shoulda just helped woulda been faster

[vocal mango]

hes just spamming invites now, how tf do I block him

[vocal mango]

that was in the morgrens hunt

[true mauve]

Join then leave just before game starts

[glacial nova]

jarren spread side

[cyan tide]

Wasting an attempt but it's worth it

[vocal mango]

Nah i just blocked him

[glacial nova]

leaderboard top 100 is 97% "meta" T6 because hellhest give a career to many bad player, but yea of course if you are smart you can find a way instead of paying

[vocal mango]

Ima try main adept kabr when he drops with jaren and ikora

it fits with the titan warlock and hunter I got in d2

[true mauve]

Leaderboard top 100 isnt 97% meta. Meta is Ning Ikora HH. Leaderboard top100 are a bunch of copycats 🤣 💀

[glacial nova]

yea i mean meta slave

[karmic chasm]

I think Maru is theoretically better but not enough people built her

[glacial nova]

we will use maru solar launcher and see if it worth

[vocal mango]

I hate maru so much, litteraly nothing you can do against her in shifting gates
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[white fossil]

[vocal mango]

also jarens damage signature sucks in pvp

[karmic chasm]

My favorite character to play in PvP is Jaren. Just slaps with crimson and Niatiks. If I was on kbm with Niatiks, it would be over

[karmic chasm]

And this is my only gripe, yea. Does like less than 25% of their health

[white fossil]

jaren in pvp with eternal retribution is fun

[vocal mango]

do perks matter in pvp

[glacial nova]

jaren arc shotgun good yea

[karmic chasm]

ET is also good yea, but Niatiks one shots in shifting and brings them down to less than half hp in iron bar, and then you just punch.

[vocal mango]

In the beginning when I had nobody I was using xuan and bullying everyone lmao

eternal kinda sucks for pvp
chaperone is great

chaperone with del7

[karmic chasm]

Simit is awesome. Used it with Attal

[vocal mango]

not using crimson with attal 😭

you get like full overshield just with crimson and 2 artys permanantly

[vapid vine]

🫡 signing in for today😅

☃️ 🎄 🎉

[karmic chasm]

I tried it. Was meh. Ironically I use Crimson on Jaren

[vocal mango]

I use crimson on everrything lmao, have it maxed and the solar one didnt drop for me at 500% chance

[karmic chasm]

I’m a big fan of crimson. I just don’t use it outside of PvP. It’s on the list of eventual exotic builds for me. Great all around gun

[naive ingot]

I use Crimson on both Attal and Jaren

[vocal mango]

idk I just love crimson, the only downside it the reload but jaren skips that

[vapid vine]

hmmm so u do use other chars then gwynn🤣🤣

😉

[naive ingot]

Sometimes lol. When doing character stories

[karmic chasm]

I think if I were to build it, it would be for Attal in PvE since I do want to build her (I have T6😭) and for Jaren I’d probably keep the solar setup I have. So that’s why I’m kinda waiting to build it. For now, both Attal and Jaren just use tlw.

Anybody know what the EoL god roll is?

What I’m most excited to build is that ahamkara bow from season 4. Unless it’s arc, in which case I really doubt I’ll work on it

[true mauve]

New bow 👀

[karmic chasm]

Allegedly

[true mauve]

I seent this but it has no context

[karmic chasm]

This is what I’m looking at

[vocal mango]

leviathan breath coming

[karmic chasm]

Yep! Same one. If it’s void then I’m gonna make it an alternate option for Rossi

[naive ingot]

Fraternity and Searing Mark

[vapid ibex]

Tg skin and rework

[true mauve]

Its a bow i gotta build it 😭

[true mauve]

Then its alrdy half built and has all the copies for last band

[karmic chasm]

I have a feeling that it’s not an exotic, given the images of the pistols with it

[true mauve]

TG rework would be hype, it needs to do extra dmg like mahama does to make the 3 arrows work. Right now they split too much and you end up doing 2/3 dmg majority of time

[vocal mango]

It might be hinting a new enemy faction

[true mauve]

If it had a base like 200% dmg to compensate it would be cool

Extra 100% would make it hit right on point I feel

[karmic chasm]

Could be, but it looks like Ahamkara stuff. Probably from a raid

[true mauve]

Mahama does 360% so 200 is way below since its primary

[naive ingot]

Imagine actually having to kill Ahamkara

[winged lintel]

The ahamkara bow is for the future raid featuring the dragons and cabal

[karmic chasm]

My shadow is not shadowing

[winged lintel]

The wish-weapons for that unreleased future raid do look cool for sure

[karmic chasm]

I just need a void or solar bow so I can fully build out more elemental coverage on Rossi. My goal is to someday be able to run almost anything with him. I do have the God roll solar crossbow, so building that is a start

[upbeat forge]

Are the the Cabal raid weapons already unveiled?

[hazy light]

Do LE bon voyage charms expire at the end of a season?

[true mauve]

Purple Solar Bow slaps, we have 0 void options though between xbow and bow

[naive ingot]

Nope

[hazy light]

Thanks 🦧

[karmic chasm]

True, and I also have the God roll on that one

[karmic chasm]

No. But you will probably (almost for sure) not be able to use them on Kabr

[true mauve]

Sugar Glider

Gonna be so nice saving all lumia and LE for a month

Will be able to T2/T3 next mythic I want

[cyan tide]

"Almost for sure" aka 1% chance that happens

[karmic chasm]

Exactly. It’s been made clear, but if I says I’m 100%, someone will come and go “Ackjshualleey, it could happen”

[karmic chasm]

I’ve been pulling to see if I can get a random T2 Jaren at a low percent lol

[true mauve]

How they handle his draws says alot. If its pure p2w for T6 i.e. only silver and no lumia... id imagine its going to be a recurring event thing and we slowly T6 him and its all RNG. We get event pulls and event pulls only

[cyan tide]

It's been made clear in clown land, all we know is that there's an event that gives special boats that can only be used in Kabr's banner. Nothing says that that's the only way you can pull for him

[true mauve]

Tbf I hit 2 random jarens back 2 back doing single pulls. Its only reason im T6 is all the crazy luck. No p2w just stupid crazy rng

[karmic chasm]

Great luck right there

[pulsar coral]

You got t6 as a f2p??? Damn pulling 7 jarens is wild

[karmic chasm]

No

[true mauve]

I paid for 2 pities, first pity was from hoard. 4 from RNG

[pulsar coral]

Ah

[lean bloom]

Where can I share my link at?

[cyan tide]

How many pulls total was it?

[true mauve]

Tbf I wouldnt have paid and lucked into T3 if I didnt land T1 free. Then I landed T5 free and had to pay for T6.

[karmic chasm]

Jaren is pretty cool. He’s one I considered going in deeper on pulls for. But I gotta wait for my GOAT

[cyan tide]

For the dawning event? #❄️│dawning-link-share

[lean bloom]

Yes

[true mauve]

42 pages x 5 + 1 = 211. The last 10 pull for Jaren gave me last card piece so 211 pulls for all 4 cards and T6 Jaren

[lean bloom]

Would appreciate if you guys pressed my link in #❄️│dawning-link-share

[cyan tide]

That's very good, meanwhile it took me 120 pulls to get T1 Helhest

[true mauve]

Who is your goat

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/cayde-gif-15202328

[true mauve]

Well tbf we wont discuss every other mythic being T0 because I had to hard pity GwynnT0, EstellaT0, Helhest T0, Maru T1(paid for 2 hard pities)

Netease said "here is a bone bro"

[karmic chasm]

Happy for ya dawg

I got Maru and Jaren to t1 with decent amounts of pulls, so I’m happy

[true mauve]

You have T4 Rossi 🤬

Id rather T6 Rossi than Jaren

[karmic chasm]

We don’t talk about the things I did to get that far lol

[true mauve]

Thats been a want for months fr maxed Rossi talentz

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/no-regrets-no-ragrets-same-yolo-we-are-the-millers-gif-4961595

[cyan tide]

Watch me get nothing but Ikora next banner

[karmic chasm]

I pulled 2 helhests which was nice! One was right after the other. But I straight up bought the character bundles to get Rossi to T4. I wish there were more.

[karmic chasm]

Same. I will be so mad. At least T4 is his last really important one but

[true mauve]

Fr I bought bundles to hit T2 😭

[thorny frost]

Best of luck with the 60 free pulls for you 2. When they said free Kabr I imagined literally just him and not possible more

[karmic chasm]

Speaking of 2, I hit 2nd place on the server again today. Amongst everyone who have now used their essence like I have.

[thorny frost]

Rossi and attal being on the banner will help me as I still need copies of them too

[karmic chasm]

Attal is maxed, Ikora is maxed. If I don’t pull Rossi I’m cooked

[thorny frost]

Well, it means they give you free pulls on another limited banner with rebate XD

Ikora I have maxed too…. But I have a feeling a lot of people do… she was not on what, 2 banners?

[karmic chasm]

Exactly

I could probably have a decent Ikora and Attal just ripping stuff from other characters

[indigo solar]

Lmao nice

[indigo solar]

It is just him, unless you count the 4* from his draw

The free tokens can only be used on his draw

[errant narwhal]

my attal has max weapons just from ripping hh and jarens weapons lol

I was like top 20 in my state for her

[slow trench]

a

[thorny frost]

Yea I was counting the 4* when I heard free unit I expected an event where you got mats and a unit at the end from quest rewards. Getting 4* mean we get rebate currency we can use for future banners.

[karmic chasm]

@indigo solar I believe he’s talking about fortuna crystals

[slow trench]

r

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q

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[dusk socket]

What are lightcones in shifting gates?

[winged lintel]

Please do not spam single letters in chat

[slow trench]

sorry just try to get dawning points

[winged lintel]

They're referring to the cards you can buy for the weird looking green currency you get for doing sg weekly bounties

[rose turret]

do we now know kablr stats?

[winged lintel]

Nope

[dusk socket]

so what are basic lightcones? I need to buy them

[winged lintel]

They are the white cards I believe

[karmic chasm]

Vro 🥀

Oh crap I need to finish grinding for Professor

[true mauve]

How far from 1st?

[true mauve]

Oh you already knew it

[karmic chasm]

Round 50-80 power depending on which of us is grinding chaos daily. I just talked to the guy. He’s using Ning artifacts lol

Keep in mind though I’m still missing 4 thumbs up in slot 1 and 2

so I could get a large boost with the right roll drop

[true mauve]

So close bro

[karmic chasm]

Sooo close

[true mauve]

#1 Rossi

[astral bear]

Thumbs don’t give you power

As long as your stat is shared between 2 artifacts you can enhance it to level 10 which gives you more power than running 2 different stats

[karmic chasm]

They do if they match. I don’t have matching or thumb perks for a couple substats

[astral bear]

Every stat gives you power as long as they match.

[karmic chasm]

I guess what I was trying to say is that I’m looking for better stats and also matching stats. I didn’t explain that well.

[astral bear]

I see

[karmic chasm]

Better for use, and matching for power

[astral bear]

What would you even use for Rossi?

[karmic chasm]

On slot one and two? I’d have to go look. I’m pretty sure I’m looking for overshield but I don’t recall

[astral bear]

What kind of artifacts; all slots

[karmic chasm]

Ohh. Well my normal setup is only one artifact different from
My power setup. I’ll send screenshots

[deft oriole]

How is the state of the game? thinking about coming back.

[vocal mango]

Bros true self if tower of sauron

[indigo solar]

No I just found how to get there

[vocal mango]

Also how tf do I get glimmer, lots, fast

[deft oriole]

Strikes, anything for you earn currency

[vocal mango]

Its free right?

[deft oriole]

Yea you can get them from chests, pinnacle energy use, etc

[marsh birch]

Also you can get a lot from exchange shop

[vocal mango]

Bruh ur a mf lyer you get136 without pin

[deft oriole]

Lying? Ok.

[vocal mango]

breh gm strikes give 136 glimmer

[karmic chasm]

Power setup vs what I find optimal. Illuminated ground is technically a better slot 4, however Bellicose is more forgiving and also just I have a good roll so I’m not starting over.

[karmic chasm]

Morgran Normal without pinnacle. It gives the most consistent source of glimmer

[vocal mango]

thanks

only 100 still is crazy

500 per like 5 minutes, thats at best

I didnt know how hard glimmer is to get until I ran out

[marsh birch]

go to the exchange shop and use some of the currency you have an abundance of and trade it for glimmer.

[karmic chasm]

Strange coins from chaos are good

[marsh birch]

Yup

[true mauve]

I was confused at first, my first oob experience. Glad it was a new one

[deft oriole]

@vocal mango told ya

Not easy to get lots and lots of grinding

[true mauve]

Purple Bow is best Iron Bar one. Mythic better for SG because PvE also. Idk why i ever fooled myself

[karmic chasm]

Yea but Morgrans is arguably better if you’re just going for glimmer

[karmic chasm]

Were you trying to use legendary in Shifting Gates?

[indigo solar]

I got there from oobing somewhere else and making my way from underneath, mind DMing me how you did it?

[karmic chasm]

Are we not allowed to speak of oobs publicly or something 💀

[modern pasture]

Are they really adding no auto rifles start of next season?

I was expecting a auto rifle charcter for act 2

[karmic chasm]

I was expecting at least one bow. Looks like we may get one from the black armory

[indigo solar]

It's more just that oobs have been patched, so I don't like talking about how to do them in this server

[karmic chasm]

Getting out of bounds in RSR is still hilariously easy. I haven’t gone that far but it’s pretty fun

[errant narwhal]

I think theres a raid ar

[violet escarp]

Looking for players on NA for iron bar

[errant narwhal]

I think its an ar at least

Couple more ARs

[vocal hawk]

OOBs are technically classified as exploits, so teaching other players how to do them in the server is against the server rules.
Some can be considered more severe than others. I don't think anyone really cares if you hang out in the Red Sea Rift OOBs ogling the sentinel.

[errant narwhal]

I really hope all the leaks posted today are Mythic or higher, some of the models are pretty cool

[true mauve]

Entry way and exit point. Sending 2 vids

[errant narwhal]

Foundry collection sniper oooo

[cyan tide]

3 days until the new season and still no early access videos

[errant narwhal]

Maybe tomorrow

This thing looks sick

[karmic chasm]

That is cool

[true mauve]

Shoulda saved my glass and black/white special skins

[errant narwhal]

I got a black and white one and few of the glass sitting around thankfully

There’s also a pulse and a fusion but meh

[cyan tide]

Sidearms in shambles

[errant narwhal]

There was some new ones but none from that collection I dont think

[abstract cedar]

hear me out: unsweetened chocolate in chili

[errant narwhal]

they should add rat king but make it two and the second one can be the rat queen

[delicate mango]

I'm surprised someone already leak the weapons

Tho it's normal

[errant narwhal]

Yeah its just one dude on reddit leakin a bunch

[novel quest]

I bug reported an actual game breaking oob and they ignored me so if it gets used in crota oh well 🤷

[delicate mango]

Won't lie I'm digging that weapon

The grind begins

[errant narwhal]

Same, I’m hoping symmytry is good enough to warrant using it on Tan and Umeko

[delicate mango]

once it's out

[errant narwhal]

Or the second character they release is another sniper user

[true mauve]

Not 2 piercing in a row please

[delicate mango]

I'm getting the feeling that sniper is gonna be in the defense tower

[errant narwhal]

Wouldn’t that be 4? HH and Jaren are piercing

nvm i forgot maru existed

[delicate mango]

Kabr mythic will be getting the 2 piercing weapon

unfortunately

[errant narwhal]

Yeah, I wouldn’t mind the act 2 to be piercing with something else though

Especially because we haven’t had a sniper user since launch now

[delicate mango]

lol hopefully I can grind out the new activity tho I'm working on building MG ver ka Nu Gundam

It's gonna be a lot of work

[errant narwhal]

is that on a game or like you’re doing one of the build kits?

[nocturne bronze]

this is so awesome have fun

[errant narwhal]

Hell yeah, I bought a Barbatos one during the height of Gundam Evolution and never even opened the box lol

[true mauve]

The weapon types themselves need balanced between the diff Shinka types. There are some really good weapon types and really bad weapon types. The lightbearers are effected by more than just their abilities. Xuan Wei is king example, bro gets shut down because he has to use Jotunn and a Shotty

[delicate mango]

Am glad there are others that enjoy making gunpla

[errant narwhal]

Xuan wei was such a weird design choice, no range whatsoever

[delicate mango]

tho this will take several hours to make

I have 2 others kits Sengoku astray Gundam MG in Strike build freedom Gundam MG

[true mauve]

Some lightbearers are held back by cruddy weapon choice

[gray crow]

They better give me more lumia leaves and better weapons. Seams like they don’t have THAT big of a variety on weapons

[errant narwhal]

I feel like if this game survives a significant amount of time the gun choice per characters will open up a bit, at least 2 options per slot

[gray crow]

Did we just become best friends?

[true mauve]

Game new they slow workin at it, S3 has promised more lumia and pinnacle free. S4 is end game rework

[sand depot]

Piercing for kabr is yay bc then either he’s op and I get him or I can use helhest for everything we are supposed to use him for

[novel quest]

yeah kabr's not gonna be that good unless he has something to power creep helhest 🥀 maybe for defense mode but I might just be coping

[true mauve]

Imagine Exotic lightbearers having complete freedom in wpn choice

[gray crow]

Bruh all I want is fo them to give us better loot and more of it. And a personal experience with my own path of upgrading. Like wolf is cool and all but bro that wasted so much of my stuff to where the characters I do like barely could upgrade

[errant narwhal]

That’d be insane lol

[gray crow]

Just have to grind so hard

[sand depot]

Who else might be good in defense mode? Xuan has good mob clearing? Jolder bubble? Who else? Helhest obvi

[true mauve]

Im lowkey thinking since he has same Power Wpn type that his LFR play will outdo Helhest. When she drops dmg buff he better be in it though or she will creep him.

[gray crow]

Well if anyone plays daily I’m on daily let’s play. I also have a live stream

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/patience-young-grasshopper-gif-10391979

[errant narwhal]

Depends if its time based or not, hoping its not

[sand depot]

What would ideal loadout be? With total freedom?

[true mauve]

Whatever the current seasons element/shinka type is

[errant narwhal]

HH with RC and a good ad clear weapon thats Solar or Void

[true mauve]

Honestly wouldnt mind an AR/Xbow user

[sand depot]

Oh yeah like a scout might be good

[errant narwhal]

Yeah the solar scout would go crazy on her

[true mauve]

New Kabr uses Scout and LFR

[sand depot]

The best single weapon is mahamayuri for sure yeah? So what would be the ideal pair for that? Piercing?

[errant narwhal]

Yeah it’ll be decent, HH not needing to reload or aim pluss having damage buff is what makes her so crazy tho imo

[delicate mango]

Quick question what type of barbatos is it Bec there are 6 different forms

[errant narwhal]

thats a good question, I’m at work rn but I’ll try to remember to grab a pic afterwards

[delicate mango]

ok

[errant narwhal]

just googled it and i think its this one

[true mauve]

She extreme balanced though. Outside of her dmg buff and salvo she is only average dmg. Dps should be good dmg all the time and then extra when buffed by HH. No one has put another character next to HH and did dmg test. Of course she is crazy numbers she is best buffer in game

[delicate mango]

Ooooh now that's the 3rd form ngl it's really good

[errant narwhal]

Her lack of consistent damage outside of her salvo buff makes her decently balanced

[sand depot]

Bro idk she feels pretty op to me haha

[true mauve]

Haha because she can self buff

[errant narwhal]

And spawn ammo which is nuts o

[sand depot]

Damage is good in bursts there isn’t a hugeeeeee need for constant uptime dmg in this game mostly

[true mauve]

Any dmg dealer with HH buffs active should outdo her

[errant narwhal]

got it during AX in 2023 i think

[delicate mango]

I see

[sand depot]

And yeah the ammo is nuts and her burst is enough to wipe most zones out really fast anyways then recharge before next enemies

[true mauve]

If she is still outperforming dps when they have her buffs then its a diff story...

[errant narwhal]

As time goes on and we get more and more damage dealers she’ll be just the best support instead of the best support who also contends for the top dps spot

[sand depot]

IMO she’s the best character in the game w everything combined

[true mauve]

We still need a mythic Debuffer like Umeko to make enemy take more dmg

[sand depot]

At worsttttt she’s in S tier with Ning and maybe Jaren

[errant narwhal]

nightstalker when

[supple nymph]

A reskinned Kabr is so lazy. This games in life support, where is Saladin or Cayde or saint 14

[true mauve]

Tbh and real, I think game is gonna EoS, not soon but it will. The devs werent prepared for lightbearers and weapons to be crossing element and shinka types both

Makes it hard to sell characters when Ikora and Ning are in #1 cal ops spot during Jaren/Maru season

[errant narwhal]

Brand new kit and weapon options, different personality and slightly altered look isn’t that lazy imo

[errant narwhal]

ning never seeing a significant nerf has been a travesty imo lol

they nerfed maha a little bit and thats all iirc

[true mauve]

He's not used for his damage, he is used for his 3 dashes and move speed

[errant narwhal]

Yeah but his damage was also really good pre nerf maha

[true mauve]

He just runs as fast as he can and clears ads, his team does the rest

[abstract cedar]

instant coffee creamer is highly flammable

[true mauve]

Maha only nerfed in PvP though 😭

[errant narwhal]

i thought they nerfed its capacity

nvm just pvp damage

[karmic chasm]

They nerfed damage against piercing shinkas

[errant narwhal]

ah

[karmic chasm]

Early on he was definitively the best character

[thorny frost]

It was nerfed against some shinkas like a couple weeks after launch

Huge cry about netease killing him for a short while if memory serves

[true mauve]

Still arguably is. No one else can triple dash

[thorny frost]

O I see witchking actually beat me to that one XD need to read more before responding

[karmic chasm]

He’s a top contender for most widely viable, yes

[rain knot]

does anyone know how to get the yeti incoming limited time triumph?

[karmic chasm]

No. I’ve been wondering

[rain knot]

:(

[karmic chasm]

Dw I’ve done that a million times lol

[thorny frost]

You need to donate 30 items to your yeti. If it is maxed you might have to hit the blessing maxed reward under it to get to this screen, then hopefully it allows you to donate by hitting submit

[rain knot]

already did no trioumph, cant donate after 300

[thorny frost]

O shoot, do a ticket then as that should be the requirement and how I got it. Sorry to hear it bugged on you.

[karmic chasm]

I donated to my old pack. Can’t donate to this one as far as I know

[karmic chasm]

If you figure it out, tag me 😭

[thorny frost]

Honestly don’t think you are coping. He will live or die from the endless modes I believe. All other Arc units I feel have issues with sustain and/or only minimal survival tactics. If they increase mobs health, or don’t have hordes swarming the team I could see HelHest running into Salvo/Ammo issues and not being as meta for it.

[karmic chasm]

I can’t see Kabr creeping Helhest lol

Especially since I think that it will have hoards, making Helhest even better

[thorny frost]

In CalOps/expanse? no definitely not. In an Endless mode? I definitely could see it. Playing with others who don’t contribute as much damage I can definitely feel how HelHest drops off once she is stuck using a bow and can’t get the data for heavy.

I could see waves with a few powerful enemies and less horde of things sprinkled in.

[modern pasture]

But from patch notes no ar mentioned

[karmic chasm]

The point is that I think she will get the data lol. Salvo is a crazy skill.

If there’s alternating waves with small enemies, she’s going to cream

I’m really talking down on a free unit that I’m pretty hyped for. Idk what I’m doing lol

[thorny frost]

If they do hordes yes definitely, just giving the perspective that it could be designed in a way that isn’t as supporting for her. But the developers would have to actually do that.

I have done a couple Morgan’s this event that the lack of damage from my team mates made me eat all my ammo (specially during duel+ prison) and I was stuck with only bow for the next wave, as better together lowered the horde count enough.

[errant narwhal]

The leaks have a lot of ARs, might not be at the start of season though

[modern pasture]

I live on that copium

[karmic chasm]

I live on the copium that the next bow will be void

[errant narwhal]

le monarque will save us

[worldly hazel]

Where my Thorn or Ace at? 😭😭

[errant narwhal]

Ace gotta be with Cayde

[delicate mango]

Will soon see cayde in dr

[karmic chasm]

Cayde comes out and I’ll be glued to the game

[errant narwhal]

Caydes coming out? Congrats! 🏳️‍🌈

[simple plank]

clanka

[true mauve]

Jolders bubble is a perfect sphere, this is the underside through the floor... @indigo solar

[karmic chasm]

HELL naw what

[true mauve]

Cayde-2026

[karmic chasm]

Yea but he became one due to his gambling addiction so it’s cool

[simple plank]

gamblanka

[devout horizon]

Was this not known?

[true mauve]

Ive never seen the underside

[errant narwhal]

[karmic chasm]

Jaren and Cayde, sitting in a tree

[errant narwhal]

is the tree in Nessus

[lean wind]

Hey im new which characters r good to focus for beginner i have the story characters + tan2 and umeko and Rossi11

[karmic chasm]

Tan and Umeko are good and share weapons. As for Rossi, I wouldn’t bother ( )

[true mauve]

Its for real life

[abstract cedar]

got my insurance card today… can’t use the stupid thing until next Thursday😒😒😒😒

[abstract cedar]

only use gwynn

[karmic chasm]

Oops

Looking to hit 75 tomorrow

[abstract cedar]

gross

[karmic chasm]

I’ll have you know that Gwynn was my first gold

[abstract cedar]

you turned you’re back on her

[karmic chasm]

Rossi stole my heart like the wind steals seeds from a dandelion. I was swept away, carried to new heights. I bask in the light of a new star. And that star is Rossi.

[errant narwhal]

make him T6

[karmic chasm]

That’s the goal. T4 and 1/3 rn

[abstract cedar]

only death

[errant narwhal]

Sucks they havent added the newer 4 stars as purchasable

[karmic chasm]

Agreed. And I already bought the 4 star choice bundles

[errant narwhal]

sad

[karmic chasm]

Truly. I’d probably finish him today if there were more bundles

[errant narwhal]

I really hope we get more journey bundles at some point

[floral abyss]

Please use #🎁│in-game-binding

[abstract cedar]

i don’t wanna

[cursive spoke]

anyone can tell me fastest way to get proficiency up for the gold medal bundles? ive just been doing chaos but is there something more efficient/quicker

[stark forge]

play chaos

[karmic chasm]

This is the answer to pretty much every “what should I be playing for x” question

[dusk socket]

how to get the boxes?

I can't claim

[stark forge]

u can claim in 4 more days

[dusk socket]

But the season will end before.... and it gives 7 engrams of the season

[stark forge]

netease wont let u live that easy

[tight talon]

will get converted to next season's engrams

potentially.

[abstract cedar]

i just found out i get free therapy from my insurance 😭

[floral abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[abstract cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/sarah-paulson-katharinaste-ellen-degeneres-akward-awkward-gif-16768015177109483020

[bitter estuary]

balls

dont forget to build the last 2 ai generated snowmen

[tight talon]

new lights am i rite ehe

[bitter estuary]

using efs over parole

[tight talon]

is alright, that dude was acclaim 7 or something

atleast it had dual mythic perks if anything

[stark forge]

why dmg taken so low

[tight talon]

Cause i blinded them with my nades

[bitter estuary]

im actually more concerned for the jolder then,

also not using the void sword? what

[stark forge]

bad teamwork should have taken the most dmg

[tight talon]

new light xd

[bitter estuary]

lmao

[karmic chasm]

TW

[tight talon]

damn only got you till round 9 shame

[stark forge]

700k dmg 🥀

[tight talon]

and some 700k damage less indeed

[stark forge]

dude either hide at the roof or getting 1 slap constantly

[karmic chasm]

Idk what we are even looking at. This was just a bad round overall

[cobalt urchin]

Dude is scared of getting in the way

[tight talon]

cant do anything if they die before hitting me

[bitter estuary]

prolly plays on mobile w/ 2 fingers and don't have survival instincts

[stark forge]

2 finger and survival instincts dont go well with each other

[tight talon]

not all HH but always TG Helhests, just like TLW Jarens >.>

[karmic chasm]

I wasn’t even comparing our damage, just highlighting a very similar situation 💀

[tight talon]

I was /s

[karmic chasm]

/s me one more time i swear

/s

[tight talon]

jeez i get nostalgia with TLW and Cowboy precision fantasy but dont make your lives harder

Embrace Old Perfect, and so it shall ascend you to true freedom

[stark forge]

very wise, old prefect and eternal retribution is the way

[tight talon]

https://tenor.com/view/im-gonna-stop-you-right-there-stop-it-stop-gif-14320481

[karmic chasm]

I think when they patch cat3 on tlw that’s going to completely flip. But currently you’re honestly dead on.

[tight talon]

https://tenor.com/view/yae-miku-gif-23970122

they should have patched Furies III as well then, its Cata 2 sucks

[stark forge]

when they patch tlw is when he is not needed for season content anymore

[raw glade]

Anyone want to run Morgran's with me? Having a tough time with randoms.

[tight talon]

doesnt work with what its supposed to do

[raw glade]

I just need one good run in a premade to get my ranking up

[stark forge]

u have good team there, whats tough

[raw glade]

-_-

[tight talon]

xDDD

[last matrix]

is there any new news concerning a possible port to pc?

[tight talon]

nope

[stark forge]

ur jaren is strong, he can clear the horde in seconds

[last matrix]

any day now....

[raw glade]

Three Jarens like me and I'd probably get a top 10 score on the server lol

[tight talon]

I am always on the lookout for people who dont spend, so majority of the times i am spot on 😛 , unless ofc Taniks has better testing data

[stark forge]

jaren is op u only need 1 to get to top 10

[tight talon]

just enjoy with emu. not that hard

[raw glade]

No. That's not how it works.

[last matrix]

wont be nearly as good as an actual pc port

[stark forge]

all the top teams only use 1 jaren there

[tight talon]

unless Bungie is the one publishing this, wont happen.

[last matrix]

how do u know

[raw glade]

the other two heroes also do damage. Once you get to a certain stage, you need Master+ quality players contributing damage. The health pools are enormous/.

[stark forge]

jaren deal enormous dmg there he can solo it fine

[raw glade]

Okay, thank you for the input Risotto

[wise harness]

Hello friends

[cobalt urchin]

they seem pretty content with their emulator support so no

[tight talon]

Well, its common knowledge. D2's state aint doin that great even with Renegades, this game aint having anything to do compared to D2's 8+ years of remaining content. The general consensus any1 can arrive at is, publishing this game will either eat away D2's sales or many people will not play this one

[last matrix]

well if theyre saying to emulate on pc to play what difference does it make just making a port

[abstract cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/tani-stranger-things-stranger-things-5-stranger-things-season-5-demodog-gif-10911286279590769573

i want a demodog

[bitter estuary]

i love sparrow racing

[tight talon]

port means creating the game from ground up again, after this game was already in production from 2019 to 2025. after investing 100 million $ by Netease. Theres no incentive if Mobile Players with Controllers and PC players play tis

[last matrix]

well they need to imagine all the newcomers like me that would join if theyd make a pc port

[tight talon]

They cant even hold newcomers cause there's so much gatekeeping due to pinnacle energy lol

[stark forge]

in prod for 6 years and we are still in beta testing

[tight talon]

pc port is last of their concerns

[last matrix]

well ill just be patient and wait until its higher on the priority list and they realise the potential of a pc port

[abstract cedar]

pc port won’t happen anytime soon.

[tight talon]

its not their target market either, they want people to open destiny for 20 mins max and then go on with their day

[stark forge]

*EoS list

[last matrix]

idk what that is

[last matrix]

id play for longer than 20 minutes if it was on pc

[bitter estuary]

this game will prolly eos before ananta releases

[abstract cedar]

just emulate it

[drowsy cypress]

i see rumors ananta is bad game

[tight talon]

again not gonna say go play D2, but theres clearly nothing to do aside from once you are higher acclaim.

[drowsy cypress]

and i dunno DR is EOS, just get stable playerbase and revenue aroung 600-800k

10kk revenue just anomaly for this game, luck mostly

[errant narwhal]

ones on major platforms and one isn’t

[drowsy cypress]

if my second game from netease live around 2+ years with 75-100k revenue and still have updates, why DR will EOS?

[errant narwhal]

people are just doomposting because the games been on a downhill since eclipse ended and hype died

[tight talon]

Heard of Marvel Mystic heroes or something? that ended within a year of annoucing

[errant narwhal]

its at a crossroads of it finding its footing or dying

[raw glade]

yay, new high score

[cobalt urchin]

People like being negative xD

[errant narwhal]

old perfect chad spotted

[drowsy cypress]

revelation mobile, still updating, still have players

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[abstract cedar]

it’s been like this since 2months after release. everyone rushed to do everything and T10 everyone and then got pissed that their isn’t nothing to do so they come here and say the game is going to die etc etc. like it’s honestly getting old at this point. don’t like how the games direction is going then just leave the server lol but nope they stay and continue to complain each month

[raw glade]

Finally done with the Morgran's event, now I can play some Hundred Line Defense Academy. Weird game, but addicting.

[tight talon]

its not Netease isnt it ;-;

[drowsy cypress]

it is

[cobalt urchin]

Nah don't make them leave, I wanna hear them whine since they love attention

[tight talon]

idk says Haoplay, did i even get the correct one

[errant narwhal]

I think the main issue is people are forgetting this is a mobile game and not a game you play hours on every day

[drowsy cypress]

its netease proxy😏

for global/russia mostly

[empty kettle]

Destiny always comes back from the brink of their supposed death

[tight talon]

ah alright. Again, their self made games stay up, ones they publish, dont most of the times

[errant narwhal]

With Bungie’s guidance typically tho, are they really even involved in DR?

[abstract cedar]

they just don’t like netease in general. they always bring up the past games that ended up going away. it’s honestly getting old and annoying sometimes

[cobalt urchin]

People's first experience of destiny is probably the mobile game anyways here

[empty kettle]

Yes, since they help with the lore

[cobalt urchin]

"We make our own fate" ahh vibe

[errant narwhal]

The lore has gotten pretty out of wack at least looking at Jaren, they completely changed his personality

[empty kettle]

Alternate timeline

[abstract cedar]

a lot of people in the beginning came from playing destiny 1&2

[errant narwhal]

Guardians make their own fate Atheon dps phase type beat

[errant narwhal]

thats a bad excuse for someone to be an entirely different person other than name

[karmic chasm]

This was probably the hardest line of text in a game. Idk it just hits for some reason

[errant narwhal]

They changed him to sell not for any lore reasons

[bitter estuary]

his lore could've been better, same with maru

[abstract cedar]

it’s a completely different timeline so by doing that they can play around with the events that happened and characters and stuff like that.

[empty kettle]

The destiny multiverse is pretty big, so the characters personality could always be different even if they are the same person

[errant narwhal]

This is a really bad excuse to change someone’s entire personality and character tho

I like DR Jaren more but using the timeline excuse is just cope, they could’ve tried a little more with his lore to make it semi similar

[abstract cedar]

it’s not tho. timelines for anything will always be different and always have different outcomes. if they wanted to make him word for word or lore accurate it would be Destiny Rising in my opinion. netease had to put a little spin on their character

[errant narwhal]

Little spin =/= abandoning the character entirely and making a cowboy with his gun

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[drowsy cypress]

around 80% of players from Russia, 5% from CN (whales), 15% EU+NA

[cobalt urchin]

Don't worry. Maybe Original Timeline Jaren would become playable, just like Kabr

[cobalt urchin]

A lot of them left it seems

[empty kettle]

Darkness covered corpse

[cobalt urchin]

Add OG Jaren as a corpse yes

[open mason]

isn't that what alternative timeline supposed to right? same person but different personality, fate, etc

[cobalt urchin]

As part of the decorum for the Wolf Pack hall

[errant narwhal]

I’m not even mad about his lore I’m just trying to say I don’t think Bungie is really part of it lol

[abstract cedar]

yep

[cobalt urchin]

Dude he just wants OG Jaren here, it's not about if the alternate timeline is bad or not

[errant narwhal]

I like Jaren in DR more than D1/2’s lore

[cobalt urchin]

They really are not for the most part. Completely different writers.

[errant narwhal]

Different events and fate yes, personality not really

Unless an event triggered the different personality which we havent been shown anything

Also I dont think much can change someone’s personality this drastically

[cobalt urchin]

i.e. humans wielding ahamkara wish powers

different to having ahamkara as pets

[drowsy cypress]

once human, WWM, EVE echoes are feeling good. Marvel/WB franchase are bad at all

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/ian-insanity-bloons-tower-defense6-cymbal-monkey-monkey-gif-23755944

[drowsy cypress]

i guess bungie is gunplay/overall desighn of locations.

[cobalt urchin]

Queenbreaker ❌
Royal Contravene ✅

[errant narwhal]

Man rereading the lore for Jaren, Shin and Yor makes me want them all

[errant narwhal]

Thats something that makes sense for the timeline tbh

[cobalt urchin]

Oh I thought u hated alternate timelines

[wheat ferry]

Loads of things can change someone's personality drastically specifically trauma. Eris morn is a perfect example of it after her attempt to kill crota

[errant narwhal]

I hate when its used as a copout lol

[errant narwhal]

If there’s something that traumatic that happened to Jaren to turn him into a mercernary cowboy then it’d be mentioned in the lore then no? Like I know he lost his friend in DR lore from betrayal but I dont think that’d change you so much that theres not a sliver of your old self

[tight talon]

I can relate

[cobalt urchin]

Hive God or not, Drifter would hit

[tight talon]

literally banking on extra energy to figure out what to build

[errant narwhal]

Also I think this is placed before he’s gone to pallamon since he just crafted LW so this is before he’s brought into D1/2 lore from what I’m reading

assuming he’s still gonna go there and meet shin and whatnot, maybe not die this time

[wheat ferry]

As ikora has only just found out about the Hive and the rest of the humans don't know either that means that dredgen yor doesn't exist in this timeline yet either

[errant narwhal]

So if its long before D1/2 lore for Jaren I guess he can change that much just from maturing. I just hope we get Yor as a character.

[empty kettle]

Two exotics from iron commander

[dusk socket]

what changed? same clothes....

[abstract cedar]

DR isn’t going off of the exact lore/events as D1&2. we have events and characters that are not even in the main timeline.