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[devout void]

"It comes down to knowledge of obscure mechanics rather than game skill, which isn't healthy for a competitive game mode." That's what makes the difference with passionate players. We play Destiny; I'll let you look at the state of D1 and D2. Speedruns, etc., are about OOB that Bungie hasn't patched in 10 years. Here, we have responsive developers who are trying not to let OOB ruin the game. I don't really understand the problem with unstuck because you can find a video and copy the strategy; it's part of the game. ALL good players are also fed up with this button, but it's an in game mechanic, and yes, removing it won't change the leaderboards, I think.

[indigo solar]

I know of and have tested two oobs that allow skipping an entire zone, one more in foundry (not the old one) and one in nexus

[thin valve]

After removing every exploit, all top 100 teams will be T6 same characters, no room for casuals

[pallid flare]

There are many

[wheat ferry]

People talking about passion for a mobile game is crazy lol

[bitter estuary]

whoever sent it, just an fyi there's a limit for line breaks

[devout void]

This cycle we can even use many comp, Ning work, Helhest work, Ikora work, except if you want be #1, many thing can work to get the rewards you want

[tawdry atlas]

Idk how people manage to spend so much for T6

[final pulsar]

I have a new suggestion in reference to decals. Let me know if yall like it. It's in the suggestion channel

[thin valve]

When we talk about gacha, game can be even on calculator, gacha=passion

[wheat ferry]

Remove them? I agree

[lyric skiff]

This,agree

[indigo solar]

I'm a speedrunner myself, I'm more than happy to use oobs and unstuck in speedruns. That doesn't mean that they belong in a competitive game mode with exclusive progression rewards

[tropic swift]

Bungie does infact patch speed run routes and oobs though.

[tawdry atlas]

Whales seriously spend too much money lol

[swift sparrow]

EDyQgB5t

[final pulsar]

More like, no penalty to remove them and in order to put them on another character

[devout void]

As soon as it breaks the leaderboard, it will be fix. Last cycle there was an OOB, even after the patch; the good players just agreed not to do it.

[thin valve]

Every leaderboard where speed matters will always be held by T6 whales, no matter what they change, always.

[lyric skiff]

And then they did it anyway most likely 😂

[tawdry atlas]

Sadly but it’s the reality of a gacha game

[lyric skiff]

Disable t1-6 gg

[thin valve]

Not sadly tho, u get into gacha u are already ready for that

[rotund raptor]

What build would be best for tan 2

[lyric skiff]

Anything with a leaderboard shud be fair play. Anything else is catering to spenders

[thin valve]

Give everyone T0 and same loadout with same artifacts

[tawdry atlas]

That’d be nice

[lyric skiff]

Skill>wallet/lack of braincells

[indigo solar]

The top players have a handshake agreement to only use death warps and unstuck. Both of those are still unfair, obscure tech rather than game skill, that effectively shut out players that don't know the tech (and couldn't reasonably come across it through normal gameplay)

[devout void]

I agree, but it's been a long time since an OOB gave rewards to anyone. Everyone will have their own opinion on the unstuck button; it's weird and boring, but at least we can all use it. It's not an hidden mechanic, be curious and you can find every unstuck every cycle. So yes, it's bad in matchmaking because without communication it won't work, but a competitive mode, as you say, is not for matchmaking

[lyric skiff]

Took me forever to find the skip in break in 😅always some noob tp ahead of me like wtf

[devout void]

I think it's delusional to believe that without Unstuck the game will be perfect and everyone will get rewards

[tight talon]

Wait last Strike was OOB inflated as well? Eww.

No wonder we couldn't stay Master I Unchanged

[indigo solar]

Unstuck is absolutely a hidden mechanic for the 99.5% of the playerbase that doesn't participate in the community

[lyric skiff]

As someone who plays everyday ud have no idea outside witnessing it n coming here n being told tbh

[pallid flare]

They all have oobs, people just keep it quiet

[thin valve]

Im assuming if you want to get close to top 100 clears anywhere, u take your time to find out about every strategy 🤷‍♂️

[tropic swift]

I also use Unstuck but not for Calamity Leaderboards.. I have my own uses 😏

[indigo solar]

Nobody is saying the game will be perfect without unstuck but it will help the game mode be a more pure competitive environment

[lyric skiff]

Why wud u even press unstuck if ur not stuck? Like lmaooo

[wheat ferry]

Same reason those step sisters aren't really stuck?👀

[devout void]

Anything in the game have leaderboard ? Then how do they ask people to buy their new character and spend money for talent tree. I think a lot of Destiny fans came here without realizing it's a gacha game; it annoys me sometimes, but that's the point of these games. Since Estella, I haven't bought anything; it was only thanks to the bundles. Bringing back the bundles would be a way to generate revenue.

[lyric skiff]

Ayo 🤣🤣

[indigo solar]

Yeah but if you don't know unstuck exists you're not going to check settings and try random buttons to see if one makes you faster

[vapid vine]

@tropic swift the greatest OOB content creator since D1 ❤️ much love

[indigo solar]

Oh same, I get stuck all the time when I'm oobing

[tight talon]

Disgusting. What's the point of running T6 characters then. Might as well set everyone to T0 and then let the OOB users take leaderboards.

[thin valve]

Curiosity is key of success

[lyric skiff]

U dnt force anyone to spend u encourage it or allow them to choose gating competitiveness behind paywalls is vile behaviour

[devout void]

I think if people are curious and want all the rewards, they'll understand. You're talking about people who don't care about being Master/Overseer

[pallid flare]

Its a mix of both not just one

[tropic swift]

Once upon a time friend 🫡 Now I focus on Rising Content that no-one watches 🤣

[lyric skiff]

Sure ur company needs to make profit but at the cost of competitive integrity? No thank u.

[vapid vine]

the fact you still make content counts mate🫡

[tight talon]

Mostly Likely to be same passionate T6 cheaters atp than actual T0 users cause there's so much space in clearing performance between T0 vs T6

[indigo solar]

I mean you clearly can't come to an agreement on this point, but even highly competitive players that would otherwise be capable of reaching master/overseer absolutely get shut out of it because they don't try checking a button in settings that doesn't apply to them to see if it makes them go faster

[devout void]

It was pretty obvious if someone do it, except you OOB for a bad score but enough to break a promotion zone and yes its not cool, but in game they have a tool to check the timer of other team, and you can report them

[indigo solar]

I'm sure you didn't think people using auto aim to get 5x Izzy damage was fair, but that's the same as unstuck except known by less people

[lyric skiff]

Ive played everyday for multiple hours n grinded most things still only have a single t2 5*

[pallid flare]

Its what i hear people do yes

[tropic swift]

I don't use if for that... I use it to get places like...

[vapid vine]

love to see it

[tropic swift]

Still a hobby. Still enjoying sharing finds regardless of views 😊

[thorny obsidian]

still love the vids atm

[vapid vine]

so awesome to explore oob stuff, also to see how basic development works

[devout void]

I think those interested in rewards will find a way to climb the ranks and have figured out this button. Come on, are there really hardcore players of this game who haven't noticed the button? Curious people will use YouTube, type in "Calamity Ops," and learn the strategies and then copy them, we are not season 0/1 anymore when we were all newbie

[tropic swift]

Thank you. Appreciate it 😄

[vapid vine]

im one of the 13,8k @tropic swift 😉 for ages

[indigo solar]

Same

[lyric skiff]

I mean i care enough to go for rewsrds but some super hidden strategy u gotta look up just screams bad sportmanship imo

[devout horizon]

The world if they just removed OOB and Unstuck from Cal Ops entirely

[lyric skiff]

Nvm people actively hiding them during raid race for e.g

[tropic swift]

I can't help myself 😆 Its so much fun. OOBing is my Endgame Content.

[vapid vine]

awesome 😄 the type of screens you can make is amazing

[thin valve]

leaderboards before: 🌏
leaderboards after: 🌏

[thorny obsidian]

those are dope!!

[tight talon]

The world if clusters weren't locked to CO and just dropped as Casual Rewards with Leaves

[lyric skiff]

Ahhh utopia im home

[wheat ferry]

People will still complain if unstuck was removed anyway

[devout horizon]

From cal ops? Why would anyone complain

[indigo solar]

There absolutely are, I've spoken with some players, T6 chars, expert rank, who saw me unstuck and had no idea what I did

[tropic swift]

You on EMEA?

[lyric skiff]

Its me minus the t6s 😂

[thin valve]

Whats yalls problem with clusters? Do you wanna max every character? I have 8 characters 18/18/18, yall wanna max xuan wei?

[indigo solar]

NA

[lyric skiff]

I got 1 at max 😂

[tropic swift]

Ah alrighty then

[indigo solar]

I have an APAC acc but haven't logged in for at least a month

[wheat ferry]

Because people just like to complain. They'll move onto the next thing which will be matchmaking and "omfg why am I getting HHs that do 6% damage?"

[thin valve]

Because they never had enough interest of reaching overseer. When i had interest, i found out everything out of curiosity

[lyric skiff]

Ah yes 2 new lights + me vs 3 top 50 lb nings balanced

[tight talon]

Probably the only thing that makes people try to cheat in CO, else who'd give a damn if pack store gave u 8 a month

[twilit thistle]

I had a complaint about matchmaking typed out.

[devout void]

Crazy, investing money and not be more curious watching Youtube for a game that you like so much

Even season 2 I was going on YouTube to improve and see what people do to do a good score

[thin valve]

I like the hustle and being in top 100, that extra clusters is not a game changer for me because i aint maxing useless characters

[lyric skiff]

I did this for wolf but more than 1 char is pain

[devout horizon]

God forbid id rather play the game than research videos on it

[wheat ferry]

Great minds

[thin valve]

Extra clusters are game changer for max acclaim ppl

[lyric skiff]

Cudve had more but acclaim took precedence

[devout void]

And except Cluster, Calam is good for lumia

Im at 25 000 savings just for that and mostly use my free Ning Fei since Season 0

[thin valve]

Lumias>clusters for me haha

[lyric skiff]

Never have more than 179 lumia 😂

Its weird i hit 180 n all of a sudden i have 0 😮🤭

[latent hawk]

I only go on Youtube to realize how bad I am at this game, we are different man. 😏

[devout void]

Different passion, some like to watch twitch , youtube when they love something and it's help a lot to improve I think

If I were only playing the game I will never learn a lot of thing that I see from other player, or even watching stream in your pack Discord

[indigo solar]

I'm sorry but needing to watch YouTube videos of other players to find obscure tech to stay competitive is not a good thing

[thorny obsidian]

🫡

[pallid flare]

Its called speedrunning

[thin valve]

Dude, we talking about gacha game, about endgame content, and about top 100 server clears. Have yall never played games like this before?

[devout horizon]

I was talking about how he was saying it was crazy a t6 player wasn’t watching guides

[thin valve]

Oh, ur good then haha

[lyric skiff]

U still shudnt have to go watch utube it shud be intuitive

Can u yes. But shud u have to? No i disagree

[gritty rune]

Imagine being tryhard in a gacha game

[wheat ferry]

If you need to be taught how to play the game by watching someone else. Then you're just bad👀

[thin valve]

Go play subnatica then

[calm vortex]

It is intuitive enough its just these are the kinds of people trying to break things to save time, pushing tech and builds to their limit and you definitely dont need to be that kind of player to just get a placement score and your biweekly rewards

[lyric skiff]

Www on 12th 👏🏻

[mental dagger]

are you sure you are not confusing it with deathwarping which is only partially patched 💀

[devout horizon]

Like, the rest I agree with. If you want top times, do some research if necessary, both in game and out of game.

If you want top spend money on a character to t6 them and have some fun, guides aren’t gonna do you any good

[lyric skiff]

I mean i play pretty well and have been in expert 1 forever

[devout void]

Personally, I congratulate the passionate players who invent unstuck, skip, or whatever. Yes, gg to them if it's competitive; they're using all the game mechanics. If you're a speedrunner, you shouldn't be against it. So it's already nice of them to show videos to newbies like us. I think you want a competitive endgame mode that gives 100% of the rewards to absolutely everyone. At least there won't be any more debate.

[tropic swift]

OOB Drop

[indigo solar]

Again, I am a speedrunner, I'm personally responsible for at least 15 oobs and speedrun tricks getting patched, this behaviour is totally fine for leaderboards (especially third party) but it doesn't belong in a competitive environment with material rewards attached

[simple plank]

me when I read a book to learn how to do things

[thin valve]

Yes.

[indigo solar]

They patched the HH one 😭

[thin valve]

“If you do something well, dont watch someone do it better and dont learn anything” ahh

[gritty rune]

You definitely can be a speedrunner and want to get rid of meta strats that’s not fun

Like how I’m pretty into SS and I think jaren needs to get banned because the current SS meta is just a RNG fest

[tropic swift]

I had a backup route before I made that video 😏

[indigo solar]

Have you figured out yet how to consistently break kill barriers

[wheat ferry]

More fun figuring it out though🫶

[latent hawk]

did they patch the sparrow slingshot yet?

[gritty rune]

You win or lose depends on how many ketch summons your jaren hits vs theirs

[mental dagger]

Read the new cards and sighed
As if people werent dropping scorpiuses or double ogres from their respective droppods already

[indigo solar]

Who's running ketches at the top ss levels

[gritty rune]

Me and I’m seeing a lot more of it. It’s like the only consistent jaren counter

[tropic swift]

Nope but...... Kinda..

[mental dagger]

Such a dumb concept with the Cointoss
Ss is already mad rng

[indigo solar]

If I tell you it doesn't get mentioned or shown in any vids, they've already patched (or semi patched) three methods

[tropic swift]

Sparrow Launch? If so, nope 🙅🏻‍♂️

[latent hawk]

ok good

[devout horizon]

Fr we need one of these for SS

[gritty rune]

Cabal and drop pod was kinda dead

[tight talon]

I love having the score inflated so even people who don't want to chase leaderboards get punished

[mental dagger]

They were but it didnt stop me from losing once or twice to diabolical pulls from them😭
Cards that either get no value or insane value are so annoying

[indigo solar]

Pretty sure this or something very similar is meta

[tropic swift]

Feel free to DM, secrets are safe with me. I can share as well.

[gritty rune]

I would like to say cabal is making a comeback in current meta cos your opponent spend so much resources pulling jaren that you get to build but if your opponents lucks out and draws jaren in 1 kevarrh…

[devout horizon]

True deck name

[mental dagger]

I mean thats well below the breakpoint for expert still

[gritty rune]

Jaren without umeko?

[latent hawk]

yeah Jaren card is disgusting, faced one with Umeko who just destroyed my whole board and wasn't even last round lol

[gritty rune]

And I stopped running ikora tbh cos you often get pushed to turn 6 jaren play and kinda want something for turn 5

[gritty rune]

Hence why I ketch

7/2 card that summons a bunch of 1 costs for jaren to hit on

[indigo solar]

Arti level goes back to 80 but 85 is a fixed +5 to everything. Personally I'd use the new attributes anyways and go for another refactor level to try to get it higher, going from 194 to 197 is huge

[devout horizon]

SS regionals when

[gritty rune]

I’m trying to find a good way to counter ketch counters though. Maybe rocks

[indigo solar]

Servitor works and lets you run Wolf and Ikora

[soft bobcat]

Okay tyty

[cobalt beacon]

I mean tbf bro expert rankings for instant promo are never inflated and I wouldn’t consider expert to be a casual rank you should still have a team with coms and the correct characters

[mental dagger]

It mightve been ragebait
1.0x clear

[cobalt beacon]

Master 1 is the only one where you cant instant promo where score actually matters and changes for promotion

And ofc overseer

[mental dagger]

Overseer is the easiest rank in the game like deadass you are good with senior promo score😭

[cobalt beacon]

Yup getting overseer for the first time is the hardest

[mental dagger]

Nah
M2 first week of the season if yiu were overseer is the hardest 100%

When its all the overseers in the zone 1 including actually competent ones

[tight talon]

We literally can't find a third on EMEA/APAC that's not a Necktie

[candid tusk]

zone 1 m1 promo is the hardest area of the whole season in first cycle, then overseer is literally free for 2 cycles. then there's some competition in 3rd cycle and then 4th cycle is fairly competitive

[tight talon]

Forget comns

[gritty rune]

Wolf is a bit meh unless people run ikora though. Its basically 10/3 on condition of you having 5 cards which is becoming somewhat of a problem

[mental dagger]

Yh thats what in saying

[cobalt beacon]

Yeah emea is deader than dead

[mental dagger]

Ppl lost passion and if they want to push their hands are tied on helps
I used to do carries fairly frequently but I just dont got attempts for that no more

[indigo solar]

Everyone runs ikora tho

[wheat ferry]

You can get to master 2 without coms lol

[indigo solar]

If you want, you can even use ketch to force wolf activation

[latent hawk]

if they power them with captain you can delete them all with Bazinet

[runic coral]

how do you know?

[cobalt beacon]

I mean you can but they need to be competent

[mental dagger]

M2 outside of maybe zone 1 if its not week 1 of the season is p chill no tech needed

[pallid flare]

Not in div 1

[indigo solar]

EU detected

[gritty rune]

Not anymore since jaren became a thing. You get pushed to turn 6 jaren play sometimes

[mental dagger]

Na had easier zone 1 first week of the season

[gritty rune]

Oh no, it’s being used as a jaren counter

[wheat ferry]

I am very competent. I even die for the cause🫡

[mental dagger]

Not by much but it was easier

[pallid flare]

Last week was horrible, 425,700 for 40th (37th server-wide)

[cobalt beacon]

These calams are easy just run ikora f2p and your gold easy overseer

[mental dagger]

425 fulmi was like just r4 at 4x tho no? Maybe with the 5x elite wave tops

[devout horizon]

My pack mate has a 73.5k Ikora so this is definitely true

[runic coral]

we have about 1,5 competent a game and still hit master 💪🏼

[candid tusk]

if you're not a mega sweaty team in overseer, obviously if you're not consistently top 30, then I would intentionally go into master 2 in the 4th cycle so that you derank into expert 1, and then wait to promo into zone 2 or zone 3 for free promo into m2 in first cycle of new season

[cobalt beacon]

Real ikora had the crazy glowup

[mental dagger]

21 second door open which is +4-5 is good enough for even 426+

[pallid flare]

That gave me 425,600. Dunno what was missing for that 100

[cobalt beacon]

We are hitting 390k+ with ikora rn

[candid tusk]

ikora is arguably better than maru in this cycle tbh

[cobalt beacon]

Yeah

[mental dagger]

I need my ning to lock in and start playing
I have like 3 393s with 3 different teams atp

[candid tusk]

i still think best team comp might be jaren/jolder/helhest or jaren/jolder/maru though

[tight talon]

Easiest way, just know people who abuse mechanics correctly definitely not a T6 thing cause what the hell is that clear speed

[mental dagger]

I stand on ning personally

[cobalt beacon]

Tbf it was the same last week ikora was very useable

[cobalt beacon]

Eu players❤️ all using ning

[candid tusk]

yeah i love the ikora runs you guys been puttin in

[mental dagger]

I mean I definetly dont think that its talent issue only if the clear is at 1.x

[pallid flare]

Gwinn has also been used at the top

[twilit thistle]

I agree.

[runic coral]

our best runs were on jaren jaren maru

[mental dagger]

Tried some runs with gwyn, choked a potential 494 or so
But i dont think she will outperform hel or ning by the end

[candid tusk]

i dont think gwynn outperforms jolder either in the exact same comp imo

[cobalt beacon]

Ikora is the goat

[mental dagger]

Reasons why you use gwyn are mostly overcome with better warps and unstucks

[candid tusk]

ikora abilities are actually better than marus in this cycle but her overall dmg is probably worse but if you run helhest, it doesn't matter

[cobalt beacon]

Were gonna run burkey with me on octant him on void huckle

[indigo solar]

Gwynn best runner wdym

[dry bluff]

I'm still a new light, what should I do with crystals? Should I use them for the pulls or better wait for the free tickets(however they are called)?

[mental dagger]

If you oob to pistons then yeah maybe

[indigo solar]

She's so fast with a whole two momentum killing dashes with slow recharge

[weak ginkgo]

Tan?

[devout horizon]

WHAT

[runic coral]

gwynn is very versatile, can deal with spread and impact

[candid tusk]

i think that's worse still. partridge sky is so insane for kililng the centurions and the boss push i feel like, and just run eternal retribution on jaren?

[devout horizon]

Wolf is a runner/shinka popper

[mental dagger]

Running her as a spread breaker is a throw

[cobalt beacon]

Void sword does more dmg the cents are void thats the bigest time waste in the run the double spread room

[weak ginkgo]

Show us how to use him on ur ops

[runic coral]

not running maru is always a throw

[indigo solar]

Step one: equip 40k
Step two: aim for the head

[candid tusk]

void sword only breaks the shields, which you can break with jaren on void shotgun + jolder abilities, and then the 120% annihilation on partridge sky will absolutely obliterate them probably 50 to 0

[devout horizon]

I still can’t get over this message. There’s layers to this

[mental dagger]

Tan is one of the designated issakis characters
10th best option everywhere else

[indigo solar]

Can't wait for him to have a second viable encounter when Crota releases

[cobalt beacon]

When we ran with patridge we didnt really miss solar dmg cause we run helhest eitherway for dmg

I think void sword is the way to go bro void sword regularly does more dmg than patridge also has better ammo econ

[thin valve]

Yall using someone beside jaren, hel and maru in calop?

[candid tusk]

you're also missing spread if you don't bring the partridge sky, so in boss room, if you run jaren/jolder/helhest, you can have jolder throw fire from the impact platform to break spread for the helhest, and then immediately solo the impact shinka

[mental dagger]

As long as solar are broken its fine but issue is that ideally you just want them to be insta gone in the opening
I can kill all of them with Jared faster than teammates would try to help unless I get atrocious rng

[cobalt beacon]

Ikora jolder gwynn

[weak ginkgo]

Definitely possible

[thin valve]

WHAT DID I READ RN🔥🔥🔥🔥

[mental dagger]

Quick opening is beyond important this cycle

[cobalt beacon]

I dont mean all at the same time

[candid tusk]

that's not the team comp, he's saying those 3 are all being used in the cycle right now, even ning probably

[thin valve]

Oh.

[weak ginkgo]

Interesting. And what was the score exactly?

[cobalt beacon]

Can put up 490s with all 390

[weak ginkgo]

Did you?

[cobalt beacon]

Number 6 rn with ikora the rest is all possible just havent done it yet

[thin valve]

Imo jaren, maru, hel is best

[weak ginkgo]

390?

[cobalt beacon]

I think with ikora top scores are possible like 395+

[candid tusk]

it's not because you're missing 2 impacts

[honest kindle]

Who is stonger, Gwend or Jirin?

[simple plank]

Does Rampaging Pact still work on Maru

[devout horizon]

The ikora meta is real

[cobalt beacon]

No bro the new gl breaks impact

[weak ginkgo]

I wanna see that gwynn side

[runic coral]

Ikra

[thin valve]

What?

[weak ginkgo]

Why would you use that on maru?

[honest kindle]

You know our callsign 😉

[cobalt beacon]

Maybe we dont have a gwynn that does videos you can check out claycarm on youtube for the ikora runs tho

[candid tusk]

but aren't you running jaren/jolder/helhest? then you have 1 impact breaker for boss room which loses at least a wave of adds

[devout horizon]

Oh god I need to commission “the ikora is real”

Just the one piece meme with ikora

[mental dagger]

Too slow
For hel comps Jared breaks both fairly quickly, for boss hh stays in the middle and kills the side shinkas off of Jared pops and maru does 2 balls
Hers and first impact

[simple plank]

the shield counts as a summon

[candid tusk]

this is still worse than double impact, seen by the gwynn score on the board

[weak ginkgo]

I said gwyn not ikora. Ikora can handle maru side. But let me know when you get 390 with gwyn

[mental dagger]

Still worse than ning

[weak ginkgo]

I know. I said why would you use that on her?

[candid tusk]

what's the top score on EU and top comp?

[thin valve]

What is your run

[cobalt beacon]

I mean neo torrent and them run Gwynn with a 398

[devout horizon]

Hi I only use Jolder ama

[mental dagger]

398600 or so
Ning

[candid tusk]

7th, 386760 right now but we probably won't sweat for higher than that tbh

[simple plank]

30% damage at the press of a button?

[weak ginkgo]

Nope

[cobalt beacon]

I dont think so we can get another wave of ads at the ends

[candid tusk]

ning what?

[mental dagger]

Ning Jared maru what else

[weak ginkgo]

Surprised?

[cobalt beacon]

Unless your getting 2 waves of elites

[simple plank]

L ragebait I guess

[thin valve]

Eu n1 is ning jaren maru.

[honest kindle]

Ning is better or Shaun Wei?

[mental dagger]

Xuan wei

[cobalt beacon]

Whats the score

[candid tusk]

that's pretty interesting

[weak ginkgo]

Show us the runs master. 390 with randoms must be studied

[mental dagger]

High 398

[thin valve]

Its still a mystery for me, ning as a top 1 team

[weak ginkgo]

Nah just main Juan

[cobalt beacon]

I think neo torrent has the same score with gwynn maru jaren rn

[candid tusk]

396

[thin valve]

Im convinced boss died of ning aura

[mental dagger]

That score is not done yet and hopefully tmr ning finally gets on and my maru will agree to off herself

[honest kindle]

Shaun Wei? The White Dolphin?

[cobalt beacon]

Yeah idk how there making ning work tbh

[candid tusk]

is that your ning score?

[devout horizon]

The white dolphin is crazy

[honest kindle]

You think everything is crazy!

[mental dagger]

I had 2 evenings to run with ning💀
We missed unstucks for high 393

[thin valve]

Thats what me and my team was trying to find out. Whats his purpose while i speedrun everything same with jaren and he is basically useless on boss damage, like how.

[weak ginkgo]

I can broski. But if ran 390 with randoms you should friend them

[candid tusk]

it's hard to take cal ops that seriously until unstuck is removed and you can't self-revive tbh

[cobalt beacon]

Whats ning doing in this run?

[devout horizon]

Well, yes, when my life is as upside down as it is, I think everything is crazy

[weak ginkgo]

Aura

[cobalt beacon]

Real

[thin valve]

Ning aura farming on boss stage

[mental dagger]

He skips better than Jared for opening-r1 and the final run because of the slam down
Higher super uptime, the only thing that Jared does better is pistons if he ultis

[late thistle]

leaks on next banner?

[twilit thistle]

Its not just any ning. Its Octava's ning.

[weak ginkgo]

You saving on ur pulls?

[mental dagger]

Game is dead bcs hel is 2.0 or a ning victim

[honest kindle]

Its Asher Mir

[thin valve]

Yea but how did maru and jaren kill boss? cus ning clearly aint doing any damage

[devout horizon]

My corgi got a bath earlier so he’s without a collar for a bit

HIS NECK LOOKS SO ELONGATED WITHOUT IT

[mental dagger]

I didnt run ning since nexus
Prev cycle i was top 1 ww on t1 maru and this im on jared

[weak ginkgo]

Yeah fair. But 390 score is high enough to get you to overseer now so you should be fine

[mental dagger]

Like fairly comfortably?

[honest kindle]

How is this Destiny Role Play related?

[weak ginkgo]

Maxed out ning and first stage on super could save a lot of time

[honest kindle]

This channel is Destiny Role Play only.

[mental dagger]

Ning is simply faster than Jared for all but 1 skip
And if Jared uses super for pistons he doesnt have it for any other rotation

[cobalt beacon]

Jaren does dmg as long as hes not running 😂😂

[candid tusk]

i want to see a video of this ning/jaren/maru run lol

[weak ginkgo]

I don’t think dps was a thing on ning play but rather getting there on higher X

[mental dagger]

They are doing basically same thing as we did but cleaner and with maru deathwarp to r1

[cobalt beacon]

I use ult to run beginning on jaren just run on the side of the room instead of doing pistons

[candid tusk]

wait maru isn't doing anything on the bridge? and then who kills the reds in the hallway?

[thin valve]

He is not doing it that much faster than Jaren

[mental dagger]

Maru deathwarps in the opening

[candid tusk]

to the bridge? where the first spread shinka comes out i assume?

[weak ginkgo]

Apparently his doing something for being at the top I guess

[mental dagger]

Likely jared, im not sure in the specifics because my maru doesnt fw the deathwarp there
We might found smn a but better anyway, but didnt try it with ning yet

[mental dagger]

There are 2 ways to die, she either has to snipe him while dying in the siderails or from behind him
Latter is a timeloss

[honest kindle]

Is there a moderator here? Everyone is talking out of character and it breaks my immersion.

[thin valve]

Maru deathwarps in the beginning and then in 2nd and 3rd rooms

[runic coral]

I refuse to do this type of stuff 💯

[hushed crown]

[candid tusk]

dying is def worse than unstuck. i tested dying but you can pre-super into the double impact room with a perfect unstuck and no death revive animation

[long condor]

So is there any reason to save bon charms to open during the dating event? Or am I safe to open them now? Have a few saved up

[mental dagger]

The whole point of maru deathwarping there is to unstuck her past pistons instead of baking her in lava

[honest kindle]

This is Role play only!

[devout horizon]

I think there’s only one RP individual in the server

[candid tusk]

i feel like you only lose a couple seconds here but yeah

[honest kindle]

Then explain why I am in here every day roleplaying as Ikora?

[weak ginkgo]

That couple second could do a lot lmao

[devout horizon]

Nvm he’s gone

[thin valve]

You role play trash?

[mental dagger]

We did lava for the recent hh runs with diff defensive artefacts for less survivability and he was narrowly barely making it fast enough after switching his defensive artis to die faster
And thats with Jared doing the skip with no super which is slower than ning

[candid tusk]

it depends on the breakpoint you're hitting, cause you lose those 2 seconds anyways on the death revive into the double impact room anyways

[devout horizon]

Bro cannot be recovered. He is beyond dead. He is cremated.

[hushed crown]

Please dont, lest that to us thank you 🙂

[cobalt beacon]

Oh you guys arent unstucking into double impact?

[candid tusk]

i am yes, i tested dying but unstuck is better cause you have no revive animation and you can pre-super

[weak ginkgo]

If you hit that unstuck button where you should. Wonders

[honest kindle]

What does this mean sorry?

[cobalt beacon]

Yeah that was my logic behind it dying to the lava is pretty fast tbf i dont think dying at the beginning is worth it

[candid tusk]

octava is preferring to unstuck the platform area for maru so that there isn't a death delay cause it's so slow for maru to die through overshield

[honest kindle]

Can you tell them all to stay in character?

[mental dagger]

Thats like the prime spot for maru to unstuck to to kill legionaire
Unstucking or whoever else to double impact is a bad idea because they could trigger the boss faster and at least with ning/hel or whatever its not that good
Non maru non runner is better off deathwarping to impact or just getting joining allies to have unstuck to trigger the boss and ads spawns faster

[long condor]

If this is role play only, why then is there discussing of unstuck? No such thing of your supposed to be in character

[devout horizon]

Woah what

[cobalt beacon]

Ikora has less of a problem here but still yeah dying to lava is slow

[mental dagger]

They are having the unfunnyoff

[devout horizon]

We went from meme-ing to this real freaking quick

[karmic chasm]

Agreed Mr. Picklepants

[candid tusk]

it's "slightly" faster than jumping down to the platforms and dying to lava for maru, like barely

[bitter estuary]

balls

[devout horizon]

Saint don’t take the bait

[mental dagger]

No that one's horrible
Runner self unstucks he is already doing the skip when he is about to touch down the elevator
Unless you mean the 3rd person who kills plates and not whoever responsible for the legionaire

[karmic chasm]

You are cooked, I hope you know that

[cobalt beacon]

I think having jaren with void shotty there is just the fastest tbh😭😭

[bitter estuary]

67

[open wedge]

Oh, another for the ignore list.

[devout horizon]

Lol

[bitter estuary]

i was being sarcastic

[mental dagger]

Unless you are doing hh comp I don't feel like that one's optimal

[bitter estuary]

thermopylae isn't better than the er?

[candid tusk]

i'm still on the jaren with void shotty/jolder/helhest train but nobody running jolder. my partridge sky needs 2 more boosts 🙁

[weak ginkgo]

Yeah at that point just use gwyn.

[cobalt beacon]

Well yeah for sure

[mental dagger]

Imo so far it looks like a crutch to make up for poor rotations while dropping Jared's dmg which isnt good unless you are with hel

[candid tusk]

@mental dagger is that ning still running wolfpack/maha or solar xbow?

[bitter estuary]

oh well i was running with hel anyways on my latest run

[cobalt beacon]

No because Gwynn does no dmg

[simple plank]

explosive shell and rampaging pact on Maru eh

[weak ginkgo]

Nope

[simple plank]

E shell is looking kinda good rn. Helps in champ breaking for sure. That and this new calam isn't feeding every Maru a billion ability bombs rn

[hushed crown]

Guys lest be nice towards others PLEASE AND THANK YOU

[mental dagger]

You still want someone like maru or gwyn to deal with the 3 voids before boss
Ideally legionaire as well honestly
Definetly not crazy at breaking the 4 elites either but no matter the rotation they will already be there
Also makes it harder for Jared to solo every opening solar elite

[simple plank]

Peep the top marus in calam baiterbob

[cobalt beacon]

1 ikora novabomb trust

[candid tusk]

yeah this is my issue with gwynn. i find it surprising that torrents are able to kill the centurions and boss phase very quickly tbh with gwynn

[weak ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-gif-20369681

[mental dagger]

Its terrible compared to blazar
It only buffs your direct weapon damage
Blazar buffs everything and maru is an ability dmg character even if she doesnt pop qs at all
Her mastery is way more valuable than gl damage and unless your mods are bad popping shinkas isnt an issue

[cobalt beacon]

Tbf their maru is cracked

[candid tusk]

point and shoot rocket isn't exactly a major skill difference between the marus i feel like lol

[simple plank]

Peep the top marus in calam man. Not just talking cause I see a rank, its making sense

[weak ginkgo]

He wants to use pact for some reason

[cobalt beacon]

Every maru i play with ever sucks to the point we just started using ikora

[mental dagger]

Well idk man
When i ran t 1 maru i was top 1, not them

[bitter estuary]

i wonder if there's a t6 gwynn in the lb in emea but idk

[weak ginkgo]

They changed it on purpose so you fail

[candid tusk]

interesting. i outdpsed all of the marus on the board with the same comp as us I believe and my helhest doesn't even run united axion, which is 42% more dmg during short freq and 56% more dmg during super drone and I still outdmg them lol

[weak ginkgo]

Top one jaren was using some random artefacts. Heyy lets go use em cuz they do

[simple plank]

Ability spam was the name of the game last calam cycle, I think it makes sense that marus want to use their weapons more rn

[mental dagger]

You gain 10% direct and blast dmg while losing what 25-28% dmg from your mastery and qs
Breaking shinkas is not a struggle worth losing that much

[cobalt beacon]

Idk what it is with marus but they are the worst players istg

[candid tusk]

this is apparently why my team won't let me play jaren because they can't find a maru if i swap off

[mental dagger]

They break just fine with rampaging blazar if yiu have good mods on

[cobalt beacon]

Real

[weak ginkgo]

Maru aint a weapon master whatsoever. No matter what you play rampage won’t do you good

[open wedge]

After 18 Resolute Conjunctions, I finally got my first with both defensive attributes, or at least 2 out of 4, although it's a bit of overkill this time xD I could build a 🐢

[mental dagger]

On eu there are only 2 Jared's above 390 rn💀
The top 1 clear and 3 of mine

[cobalt beacon]

Yeah you eu players are weird af😭😭

[candid tusk]

we only have 3 teams over 390, all with jarens

[cobalt beacon]

I think t0 jaren could put up a 390 tbh with enough skill

[mental dagger]

Prev cycle eu only had 2 clears at 40k+, both were me and my ning+2 dif hels

[candid tusk]

ours is t2 i think lol, and we're like 387 with a scuffed run so yeah

[cobalt beacon]

Yeah his talents dont matter on calam😂😂

[mental dagger]

With hel if he still onetaps legionaires opening should be fine rest is like
Not ideal but tolerable

[simple plank]

Either way, bout half the Marus in top 10 are using one or the other artifact. I wonder what the math between the combos would say, but it's objectively competitive

[candid tusk]

t6 is good if you run ning probably cause jaren going to pump instead of run

[cobalt beacon]

Yeah

[twilit thistle]

U the green ning?

[candid tusk]

between what

[mental dagger]

Nah this cycle talents do matter quite a lot to push in everyone
The only comp that has 1 outstandingly low dmg char is ning

[mental dagger]

That skin sucks
Im on jared

[simple plank]

Maru using sig damage artifacts vs Rampaging Pact - E shell

[weak ginkgo]

Yh octava is eu champ

[candid tusk]

i mean our jaren is t2 doesn't matter, there's a t4 maru at 391500

[mental dagger]

T4 is where her talents mostly cap out though
Only super for the elites in double impact could be a bit of a loss

[candid tusk]

one team has t2 maru and t2 jaren on same team 387740

most talents REALLY dont impact the breakpoints that much until you're at the extreme end of the score

[mental dagger]

If its below 390 something I dont really consider it as pushing fairly high score
Considering that every 393 of mine had either chopped missed ads/moments or straight up failed unstucjs

Switching teams this cycle too much so I have 0 clean runs

[candid tusk]

i mean this is just not true right, like 4th place is 389640 on NA right now, so "not a high score" is just way off. yes you can push about 8-9k more pts but, that's still 4th

[cobalt beacon]

390 is baseline for sure this cycle but its still a lot higher than most people are gonna hit

[mental dagger]

Yh but im not talking most ppl when I am mentioning pushing the boards

[karmic chasm]

Who did you block oml

[candid tusk]

so the 5th team on NA has t2 jaren, and t2 maru

[devout horizon]

Literally everyone for that bit

[weak ginkgo]

As long as they have T6 hel

[karmic chasm]

Valid

[twilit thistle]

I added everyone, bc I didnt know which one was u. If you ever want to push the SG leaderboard, I got u.

[candid tusk]

they do but i think they could drop that hel for another impact character with low talents like jolder and still be high on the boards tbh

[mental dagger]

Its like bringing up below 40k runs prev cycle
Like yeah they would be top 3 eu and top 2 na but those were so far off what was possible

[oblique aurora]

Whoever voted for Xuan Wei to be the character for Iron Bar today I hope your pillow is a volcano tonight

[weak ginkgo]

And how they gonna dps the boss?

[candid tusk]

i mean that's fair. on NA, there's legitimately probably like 3 teams who GENUINELY try to push rank 1 to some degree, the rest, will push "higher scores" but not sweat their lives out every night trying to push rank 1

[tight talon]

I hope their skull straight up hits the wooden bedrest

[candid tusk]

partridge sky absolutely cranks high health enemies due to 120% annihilation

[weak ginkgo]

Would be definitely interesting to see that run

[oblique aurora]

As rank 3 NA I will not be doing it again unless I get bumped off overseer

[karmic chasm]

That’s the important one lol

[candid tusk]

the #1 run on morgrans hunt which has way higher hp enemies near the end, you can watch burkeys video where he's outdamaging the helhest on them due to the annihilation bonus on partridge sky

[mental dagger]

Nobody got to the boss fast enough to warrant a 2x kill which isnt hard because you have to be real early to get more points off of that compared to milking for 1.8
You just need to burn his 1st bar and then bake him with breaks for ads
I think helhests advantage tho is im pretty sure that if you nuke the boss while he is above (2nd phase) to low hp extra adds drop on the sides
1 wave of them gives score, but im not sure if its just about fast boss 2nd phase nuke

[weak ginkgo]

That aint ops lmao

[candid tusk]

that's not the point being made, my point is that partridge sky outdamages or matches helhest on huge boss pools as the hp bar goes down a bit, probably under 66% she is matching or exceeding

[calm vortex]

yeah the enemies are WAY tankier in high wave Hunt than CalOps or any piece of content available really

[mental dagger]

It had a modifier that significantly buffed non crit while reducing crit
Jolder has damage, especially with kakalik, but i dont see a compelling enough reason to use her

[short locust]

Neat!

[candid tusk]

this is fair, it had reduced precision dmg i think so that's fair but it wasn't even close

[weak ginkgo]

With 2 low tier and jolder on this cycle ops won’t get you to the ranks.

[candid tusk]

disagree, 100%, people think overseer is some untouchable thing but it's not, if you took the top players on the boards and gave them only t0 characters, they'd still be in overseer

[karmic chasm]

Yea what’s up with this

[mental dagger]

Because that was the point of the mode

[cobalt beacon]

My washed goat burkey❤️❤️

[weak ginkgo]

Isn’t untouchable. But just saying cuz of what you said with low tier and jolder be on the ranks

[candid tusk]

get ready for me of it because morgrans hunt is basically a tower defense without towers lol

[candid tusk]

absolutely would be still on the ranks lol. jolder doesn't need anything from talents. t4 is a nice boost but not required

[white fossil]

man jaren is so fun i havent even played anyone else since i got him

[weak ginkgo]

Haven’t seen it and wont see it lmao

[mental dagger]

So liberating after maru duty

[candid tusk]

tell burkey that it's disappointing seeing him run ning in shifting last night

[white fossil]

i love maru too shes very fun but jaren is alot more fun

[cobalt beacon]

😭jolder is washed bro

[candid tusk]

cmon bro, jolder is fine this cycle, get that man some runs

[mental dagger]

I would not touch maru at all if I wasnt pushing top 1 on her
It was abysmal for me

[dry bluff]

I'm still a new light, what should I do with crystals? Should I use them for the pulls or better wait for the free tickets(however they are called)?

[calm vortex]

I was testing shotguns on Jaren just for the heck of it and I was pleasantly surprised by Chaperone but then again its Chaperone and its bare minimum investment is Band 2 LOL

[cobalt beacon]

He cant pop spread man

[candid tusk]

partridge skyyyy

[cobalt beacon]

He misses one or two each time or cant instant pop im twlling you hes washed

[mental dagger]

I dont see the point of discussing the strength of weapons and builds if they are not maxed

[candid tusk]

damn bro, burkey washed? i was practicing 1 shotting spreads across the entire shooting range last week and it was decently consistent

[white fossil]

i just run eternal retribution with tlw and im doing very well so far 🙏

[calm vortex]

Maxed Thermo compared to a Maxed out Chaperone is that Chaperone does slightly less DPS than Thermo but has significantly higher total damage

Which is to be expected but the Total Damage to DPS ratio was really good

[mental dagger]

Chaperone has the exact same issue as on gwyn
Your stacks are abysmal because of its rpm
Its not good

[dry bluff]

Anyone with some help?

[white fossil]

personally i use all my lumia leaves on the limited pulls

[mental dagger]

Jared is 10 times more cycle dependant compared to gwyn as well

[dry bluff]

Not for Jared.. 🤣

[mental dagger]

Total damage is not a good metric 99.999% of the time

[candid tusk]

karmic reward really dampers the exotic shotguns too, even more so on jaren cause he can reload with the dash and keep the buff

[white fossil]

so save them for next one maybe

[calm vortex]

Doing a full DPS rotation I would have 48 stacks of stag again by the time I needed to reupp the buff assuming anything is even alive long enough for that to be needed in a group or if theres an invuln phase

[dry bluff]

Ok.. Thx

[candid tusk]

this is true, some people posted a video of "look how octant beats the therm shotgun" (after it fires 20 rounds of ramping up) which isn't how it works in any content

[delicate mango]

Say y'all what artifacts would you put on jaren

[oblique aurora]

Anyone else feel like Iron Bar control scoring makes zero sense?

[mental dagger]

Resolute new new veil or new (i feel like new 4th is inconsistent a bit but I dont have anything to back it up)

[oblique aurora]

I feel like its bugged fs

[white fossil]

why is there a 700mb app update 🥀

[calm vortex]

I mean if it doesnt proc until the blind goes off you might run into situations where you have shots that arent buffed since you can shoot well before the grenade actually goes off in situations

[mental dagger]

If it doesnt blind through impact or curr cycle shields (or attempts to blind) its terrible
Especially since im pretty sure new 4th just means that ONE of your damage buff sources lasts for linger, because iirc his 3rd is 6 seconds base

[delicate mango]

So full abilities artifacts build?

[mental dagger]

Ability signa solar weapon

[candid tusk]

i just tested this, it works on impact shinkas if you throw it at them, even on the outer shield, as long as the shinka itself is in the radius, but it doesn't work on any other shinka

[delicate mango]

I see

[calm vortex]

and honestly Jaren's innate survival is pretty good so you have a fair bit of freedom with the defensive artifacts which is nice

[mental dagger]

Yeah no reason to run it then honestly
His 3rd is dependant on both ms and defensive anyway, and ms is 6 seconds base right

[candid tusk]

i prefer the blind but there's def pros/cons, the reason is that in phases where you need to dps, you "should" usually be able to land the blind on something and then it's a big uptime increase. valiant veil is more reliable avoiding gimmicks and aerial npcs, etc.

[mental dagger]

The uptime you get for proper dps doesnt really matter though unless you run courageous
You basically gain 1 second over veil as far as your artefacts go because your 3rd does not last for 8 seconds anyway

And your nade has to actually land
And thats basically where you lose that gained second if you do it perfectly

[candid tusk]

you gain 3 seconds over veil, and with attal light link it lasts 7.2 sec on 3rd

[tropic swift]

Training Room i see. Was sad there wasn't anything solid besides the water and the dev stuff left outside. Still its been on my list to record, I'll get to it one day 😂

[mental dagger]

Im talking base, no attal to make it simpler
Your 3rd slot will be down if youll wait for those 8 seconds

[candid tusk]

yeah but you run attal so it lasts 7.2 sec, and 4th would be 8 sec

[indigo solar]

Lmao yeah the little floating crates have been there since alpha

[mental dagger]

I am pretty positive attal impacts both effects and artefacts thus extending veil as well

[candid tusk]

i'm not saying the 4th is "always the best" and it's def not. i think veil is more reliable in every situation and you can get scuffed on the new 4th but i do like it

i was told it does not impact artifacts but havent tested it myself. i can test it

[mental dagger]

Going to double check it ltr but it won't be today

[candid tusk]

yeah i'll test it for sure too, because if it does, then 100% would be zero reason to run new 4th. if it doesn't, i like it more

[mental dagger]

Not investing into new 4th regardless though because you are forced to torture yourself with estella LL in expanse and double investment is wasteful

[candid tusk]

why use estela? why not just use wolf, estela wants you to stand still which is not good on jaren IMO and i even run calming on helhest lol

[indigo solar]

I mean if you really want to try hyperoptimising you could run Maru and the overshield attribute and time your start so the overshield you get every 20s procs when you need the dps

[mental dagger]

Its horrible but its definetly better for that one in particular

[tropic swift]

Wish I got to play back then but US only 😔

[mental dagger]

The only limited char I have at t1 is maru and all but 3 stages are under 2p

[candid tusk]

@cobalt beacon - you running bellicose veil for that expanse run?

[cobalt beacon]

Yeah

[mental dagger]

I was on pace to get 422
But i ran out of heavies and tickled the boss for 10 seconds off cycle off everything
He even managed to get tethered for a second

[cobalt beacon]

It can be improved to a point of beating that helhest prob sub 5

[tropic swift]

I have all Limited at T0 😆 For me, getting the Characters and not spending an absolute fortune is more important that T6ing everyone 😭

[cobalt beacon]

Granted my last word isnt maxed and ability strength isnt

[candid tusk]

i wonder if bellicose veil is just better on jaren overall. i have been debating

[mental dagger]

Horrible boss

[cobalt beacon]

It is

The q at t6 is broken with beli veil bro it melts the boss

[candid tusk]

you think it's better in cal ops or the weapon dmg is better?

[cobalt beacon]

I think in general jaren in cal is a weird character bro

[calm vortex]

I still need to farm a serious set for my Jaren im still using my whack setup on him cause I thought it would be funny, but mostly cause I just had the artifacts laying around with good subs

[cobalt beacon]

I really cant say tbh

[mental dagger]

Ive had every possible godroll of veil for ages now
Except for nings

[cobalt beacon]

Im still running 3/4 on my ning 😭

[candid tusk]

i have a 3/4 rampaging on ning and maru, my dice rolls are the most trash ever

[mental dagger]

I like veil more but im just doing belicose since ive had that one lying around
Ran mythic veil a lot too

[delicate mango]

Ik how it feels

[mental dagger]

Been buying dices a lot and I have a grand total of a singular W with them which was helhest a few days ago
I finally have a singular exotic worth running for her

[indigo solar]

Yeah but it's based on load in time and doesn't stop the clock during hallways so if timed right, overshield will proc as you enter a zone, and even at t1 she's a 10.3% increase. Not feasible at all without bulwark token or talisman of luxuriance but it is a thing you can do

[cobalt beacon]

My ning is forever gonna have 3/4

[gritty rune]

This CO really wants you to run 2 jarens

[mental dagger]

Is it a good 3/4 at least
I dont even have THAT for veil
Like with ability weapon arc

[cobalt beacon]

Sig instead of arc on both

[mental dagger]

Yeah that one's not good
Elemental dmg is massive bcs multiplicative, you should just do mythics tbh

[cobalt beacon]

Nah i love my ning hes been like that since release also i really cant be asked

Also he does fine tbh i can do leaderboards etc i could care less

I might eventually have 4/4s in years

[mental dagger]

Would be quite happy if I got veil with signa 4th
Not reinvesting from my super 4/4 rampaging, with new dices power isnt an issue from missing 1 match and yiu just don't really super for dmg on ning anymore
Might as well have more dmg on something that works
In this cycle he pops r3 and maybe boss for a bit of damage, and its the only strike where he does that atp

[cobalt beacon]

Were gonna try ning tmw

[mental dagger]

Signature just looks better nowadays

[cobalt beacon]

Not mine tho😭

[simple plank]

these jarens bro

[mental dagger]

Yea not that1

They should let us change artefacts mid run
That would be awesome

[cobalt beacon]

I mean tbf this is pretty realistic dmg for jaren😭 atleast the % is

[simple plank]

oh mb

These other Marus bro

[mental dagger]

Not really, he should do more

[cobalt beacon]

Mine always puts out as much or a tiny bit more than ikora

That was t5 tho not good artifacts they are better now

[calm vortex]

Usually when I play Jaren in coordinated groups with Maru or Helhest our damage splits are pretty even, I ended up doing slightly more boss damage than the Helhests which I feel like they should be doing more than me

[mental dagger]

Hh ideally wants to nuke boss while others do adds

[cobalt beacon]

Yeah on ours hel does the most ikora and jaren pretty similar

[simple plank]

gonna have to lfg out here

[mental dagger]

Im usually more or less tied with maru in hh comps and slightly behind her with ning iirc

Most boss by a large margin if no hh

[simple plank]

this Jaren in specific, I was clearing his impact champs faster than him

Drill aint bad at impact tbh

[calm vortex]

Which it makes it surprising for my runs specifically cause my Jaren is running some whack artifacts right now cause the game refuses to give me my wish listed ones lol

[mental dagger]

Jaren is gwyn x10 and most of the ppl didnt figure even her out by the time she lost relevancy

Somehow
9/10 gwyn players were useless bricks

Jaren is more complicated which could offset the population (maybe) becoming slightly less incompetent

[gritty rune]

The only thing more complicated about jaren is needing to aim

[cobalt beacon]

Jaren is rough to play you need to cooldown/stag manage

[mental dagger]

Yh
Its like when hh dropped and people were struggling with resource management for a few days, but even more tricky this time

[cobalt beacon]

Yeah jaren is tricky man

[mental dagger]

Still a relatively simple concept but a lot of resource management and moment to moment decision on what will be more optimal for your cycle/for what you need to do in the moment

[drowsy cypress]

Sad but we dont have in game surveys anymore. Maybe devs really give up

[mental dagger]

They are still there, but its for newer players mostly

[bitter estuary]

there is, also you can always go to feedback in the settings

[twilit thistle]

yea whoever is balancing the weapons should be fired. balance guy and cosmetic guy need to pack it up and go. You would expect a shotgun character to be 1 shotting in pvp. I wonder if maha has a faster time to kill than shotguns. I know agail does.

[mental dagger]

For accounts that were playing for a while its been a real minute since they got a survey

[mental dagger]

Arc aggro shotgun is broken on him

[bitter estuary]

other than 30 day survey i think we haven't got anything yeah

which is odd

[rose turret]

i think i cant max BP it take so so so much

[bitter estuary]

bp what

[rose turret]

battle pass

i want jarens gun

[bitter estuary]

oh yeah you need 4 weeks to get it (3 if you get 10 dollar bp premium)

[rose turret]

non prem

have they nerfed sum cus dear lord this is crazy

[bitter estuary]

yeah you gotta wait until week 4

[thorny frost]

Battle pass is doable by playing the game. The total points obtainable is added on each week, and if nothing else just do a lot of chaos farm for a while. F2P should be able to obtain it come the 4th week

[twilit thistle]

Part of that is based on the numbers I saw when I was editing footage for taniks. Did you know ||syncopation ||works in sg?

[thorny frost]

The numbers all look the same from previous seasons

[bitter estuary]

f2p and 5$ bp users = 4 weeks (48 from weekly and 6 from act)
10$ bp premium users = 3 weeks (10 tier boost+ 36 weekly + 6 from act quest)

[rose turret]

im playing like crazy strikes etc what gives most exp?

[vocal hawk]

I usually get like, high to mid 60s at the end of the act
I buy the premium pass so that math checks out for my largely casual play

[bitter estuary]

usually you can get up to 6k cap at the end of the season so yeah

since this act is 4 week long then it's gonna end up at 66 for non premium and 76 from premium

[rose turret]

getting 3 is impossible i wish they give 1 relatively easy

[thorny frost]

Yea I forgot to mention the 5 dollar pass was the same my bad XD.

[thin apex]

The game is great, but what do I do after completing the daily missions? What's the best way to boost my account?

[thorny frost]

Do your commissions every day. And I personally would say chaos is fastest. If it is a modifier you are use to you can perform 1 activity in maybe 2 minutes or shorter (depending on player).

[bitter estuary]

if you are a low spender you need the 30 bp tokens from last act and this act + 10$ bp "included" 40 tokens to cat 3 it and you'd STILL need to wait till the 3rd week to actually do it

[compact crescent]

Realize the trap an uninstall the game before it attaches to your daily life like a parasite. 🗿

[rose turret]

aha

[rose turret]

im not spender at all

[bitter estuary]

play until you finish the story and decide whether comp content for endgame is the right choice for you or not

otherwise wait until march 28th for new content (2nd campaign)

[rose turret]

is that to hit 0/3 play as support def offense? and spam that?

[thorny frost]

Yep everything else takes a bit longer to complete. And you can farm for artifacts you need too

[rose turret]

ya they need to do sum about it its way way too long and for only 1 weapon BP need to be added slowly to normal pool or granmaster

[bitter estuary]

they're in the bp token shop, so they wont

[mental dagger]

I just kill people from about 15 meters with spino arc sg
Conjugation won't be better than a slug if it was stronger

[bitter estuary]

i assume they will add new exotics once the new campaign (s4) or s3 arrives

[rose turret]

[bitter estuary]

it's a gacha live service game, they gotta get the bag somehow

[vocal hawk]

The exotic collection is called "Series 1", so yeah, I presume so
Big assumption though

[bitter estuary]

oh sorry i meant series 2 might drop around s3 or s4

either way they're making this act shorter by 2 days apparently

[vocal hawk]

Yeah I'm not sure what's going on with that

[mental dagger]

To line it up with new years for whatever reason right

[thorny frost]

I just figured they were shifting their maintence day.

[vocal hawk]

The original date was on the first

Changing the maintenance day makes the most sense to me

[mental dagger]

If its a few days before new years it could've been done to make it so they have at least about a day to react to an emergency
Instead of a season drop being on new years

[bitter estuary]

if this is real then prolly s4 might start earlier but please take that with a grain of salt

THOUGH it’d be good if it starts earlier bc SURELY will revive the game

[vocal hawk]

Avoiding another holiday related situation where nobody's in to fix things, like with the autumn festival

[bitter estuary]

anyways barely any character balancing seems a tad sus maybe they'll do it next reset? idk

[thorny frost]

If the next season is 6 weeks long that also puts season 3 act 1 ending the week prior to lunar new year, which could be the same concept of “to close to a holiday”.

And seeing how big Lunar new years is in China there might not be anyone in the office on Friday leading up to it

[bitter estuary]

lunar new year in 17th of feb so yeah the 2 days is really needed

because then act 1 would end RIGHT before LNY

[thorny frost]

I was semi surprised that lunar new year for China is bigger than any holiday USA holds basically.

[mental dagger]

People were not happy with changes impacting calams mid cycle
An easy way to solve that is to stealth change things and hope they wont notice

[thorny frost]

PvP rebalancing could still be done without impacting Calams, I can understand the sentiment for pve changes tho.

[bitter estuary]

oh wait yeah i forgot about it

[mental dagger]

Wouldn't it be fun if unstuck became like 22 seconds tomorrow or smn
Gamechanger

[thorny frost]

1 minute, now if you get stuck go to the restroom while waiting

[bitter estuary]

bc 996 work culture is still relevant there so having a day off for everyone is big

[bitter estuary]

2 minutes 🔥

[mental dagger]

They should rotate it like modifiers
One cycle its unstuck, another cycle no unstuck but you can swap artefacts/guns mid run etc

[thorny frost]

I am going to unstuck when the match starts XD

[mental dagger]

It allowed higher score prev cycle because 1 person could do exactly that while still starting the encounter with no timeloss💀

[thorny frost]

I actually never use that tech in calamity. Some how I can make it to master 1 typically.

[thorny frost]

lol, ok didn’t realize that, the more you know.

[mental dagger]

20s is absolutely harder to perfectly time but it does open new possibilities somewhat

[thorny frost]

I don’t feel like fighting for overseer with figuring out all the death/unstuck spots so I just do what I can once I learn the stage

[mental dagger]

Outside of week 1 zone 1 you can manage no tech runs

[bitter estuary]

oh yeah that got me to master 2 from exp1

[mental dagger]

As much as im bored from unstucks highkey no unstucks and no deathwarp runs would get too boring even quicker

Adds another layer to basically just speedrunning strikes

[surreal berry]

There is going to be a… …

[bitter estuary]

calops is fun because of the jank

otherwise i fear i might drop the game for a bit because wwm is releasing on mobile in 2 days 😔

[surreal berry]

Maintenance happening… today!…

[bitter estuary]

well yes

[simple plank]

This calops has probably been the most varied with team comps a week in

[surreal berry]

What is this??? W.W.M peeps talking about???

Wilbly wobly mooo!???

[bitter estuary]

idk netease just released world war mobile

[surreal berry]

#☃️│dawning-store message

do the destiny rising team… or discord team???…
Do they want humans to keep chatting in discord for such rewards?…

[worldly hazel]

Chat is this DPS

[surreal berry]

That is a lot of points to gather…

Just to interact in discord…

[bitter estuary]

26 days in for s2a2

is this the shortest act so far?

[dusty spire]

Filler

[bitter estuary]

also i SWEAR to god if they make s3a1 and a2 respectively 8 weeks long

[dusty spire]

Western filler

[west wyvern]

Ello

[bitter estuary]

ok

[surreal berry]

8weeks is total of two months.

[true mauve]

Sg pays out

[bitter estuary]

I NEED that ssb, i've only gotten it to cat 2 😔

[thorny frost]

Based on the graphics they posted for time line season 3 acts look to be a bit longer (6 weeks each)

[karmic chasm]

Biannual reminder that Rossi-11 is the only character even worth touching with investment

[bitter estuary]

with new dates
S2A2 : dec 4~dec 30,
S3A1 : dec 31~feb 11,
S3A2 : feb 12~mar 25,
S4A1 : mar 26

for the old one, add 2 days, s2a2 could've ended at jan1

[west wyvern]

Muru is the one

[surreal berry]

Because piercing & rapid fire?…

[west wyvern]

R

[bitter estuary]

void piercing will be next after arc rapid, which makes him and umeko the best ones, but then there's tan-2 vs umeko argument all over again

[karmic chasm]

No, because he’s simply the GOAT (but yea he’s gonna be usable next season I guess)

[simple plank]

Wrong server mb

[west wyvern]

3 points for this stoopid event wth

[bitter estuary]

he's probably the highest sustained dps you'd get on a 4* atm

[surreal berry]

Oh… people taking about calamity strikes?…

[bitter estuary]

cal ops and expanse, yes

the only 2 "endgame" content

[karmic chasm]

My completely anecdotal evidence confirms this 😎 👍

GM btw

[west wyvern]

Nuuu

[surreal berry]

With out the game modes to collect materials to lvl up light power…

It’s just the casual game modes to play and very short character stories.

[modern pasture]

Who cares season ends 2 days faster?

[bitter estuary]

s0 4*'s (sans wolf) might absolutely be irrelevant once new 4 star units come out lmao

[west wyvern]

Not much content yes but I will stick with it till after the New year and will see

[surreal berry]

Hmm… maintenance on Thursday or Friday?… need to look at the notice again…

[bitter estuary]

no one, but we might see changes after jan1 in terms of roadmap

[west wyvern]

12th so Friday

[modern pasture]

Idk about ur timezone but i belive it starts in 12 hours or so give or take a few hours

[modern pasture]

I might be wrong

[modern pasture]

Yeah i prefer it ends faster we get new content faster. Seems like they plan to cook next season

[lofty tiger]

i hope so

[simple plank]

Wish there was a reason to do gms with no keys

[bitter estuary]

imagine them being "generous" for s3 and it's m/gm no keys but 1% chance of getting an exotic mod off no pinnacle rewards

[west wyvern]

Oo what are they cooking ima be hungry

[surreal berry]

For the anniversary Duration… just remove pinnacle energy 🔋 requirement, including the keys 🔑 for grandmaster.
And have a larger open world event for people to gather and join for lvling materials.

[exotic sinew]

Ikora is good, idk 🤷🏻‍♂️ people still sleep on her

[bitter estuary]

idk what will they do post ananta release, it seems that they're testing the waters for other projects first

[bitter estuary]

good but not as great as maru even at t0

source: i have a t6 ikora

[exotic sinew]

Wolf is also decent with his C3 Smart Bomb, hits very hard. Then Umeko with Total Lockout and Izzi, huge damage

We are talking about 4 stars, not 5 stars

[bitter estuary]

umeko/rossi are s1, both are better than s0 4* units (sans wolf)

[surreal berry]

I rather shoot grenade launchers over rockets…
(Maru and wolf)

[exotic sinew]

Highest sustained 4 star is the claim, and Ikora does more damage than Ross

I’d go Umeko/Ikora/Wolf in the hands of good players

[west wyvern]

How does this dawning work it keeps blocking me

[bitter estuary]

that being said i haven't tested dvergar+four horned, but it seems to be competitive with maru with that

[surreal berry]

Blocking?…

[karmic chasm]

Yeaa

[hasty ocean]

T1 Maru easily beats a T3 Maru

[devout horizon]

How does this work

[novel kestrel]

Not sure

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-meme-brain-smooth-chatbubble-gif-16562439958126711181

[surreal berry]

With maru being the limited character… can’t expect someone to have maru over Ikora…
Sigh…

[hasty ocean]

T1 grants u an extra Annihilation Blast while the other 2 are mid talents

[devout horizon]

Wait until you realize t3 means you have t1 also

[hasty ocean]

Ain't had to do me like that bro

[devout horizon]

You have everything t1 has but more

[simple plank]

I have T1.3487

[hasty ocean]

Nah Artifacts just Amp it better but T3 is not needed if ur f2p stick with T1 but T4 is the best u want for Maru

[west wyvern]

Yes it says to speak In said chat but when I try I get

[devout horizon]

Homie you said a t1 Maru beats a t3 Maru

This is not how talents work

[karmic chasm]

But but… they still make her marginally better

[hasty ocean]

Its an ok boost but T1 still better than t3

[indigo solar]

t1 - t0 > t3 - t1, happy?

[surreal berry]

Well not in this game for sure…

[west wyvern]

Can't even post what it says so 🤷‍♂️

[karmic chasm]

Is this true for Jaren too? Seems like 4 is the next big one

[devout horizon]

Can we disable talents btw

[indigo solar]

6 > 4 > 1 > 3 > 2 > 5

[karmic chasm]

5 is fr bunz

[hasty ocean]

Jaren T5 is completely useless remove and increase the range of the grenade I can throw but an 1 extra second blind come on

[surreal berry]

Disable talents?… what kind of game would have that?…

Only thing I think of that would reset talent trees 🌳 would be a MMORPG game.

[twilit thistle]

I spent like 2 hrs trying to get thru the expanse on maru. 😭 I want a refund my maru is defective

[quaint orbit]

T5 Jaren is OP honestly, such good talent design

[lofty tiger]

im usually a one and done for characters tbh. dupes mean basically nothing besides slight-marginal buffs

[hasty ocean]

What Tier is she?

[hasty ocean]

Why u ragebaiting? (T5 on Jaren doesn't exist)

[cyan tide]

Void side was pretty easy with Maru until floor 40

[devout horizon]

So uh I haven’t played Genshin in a bit, but Bennett’s c6(?) would override Eula’s ability (it could be the other way around idr), which was seen as a nerf to a team comp.

I’m assuming at some point, talents in this game could be detrimental in some situations, which would be nice to be able to disable on a moment’s notice

[bitter estuary]

this is why mechanical based combat is wack

skill >>>

[cyan tide]

Characters in this game aren't build with party play in mind, they're all self sufficient and their talents only really affect them

[lofty tiger]

exactly

[cyan tide]

I do think that being able to disable talents would be nice but for stuff like testing

[devout horizon]

Some are, though. Jolder has a party talent (and party abilities now that I think about it)

[surreal berry]

In these catcha games…
I have no care for… Duplicate= additional passive talents.
There is nothing special.

Just icing on the bread 🥖

[hasty ocean]

Who's puts icing on bread are u sure ur not an alien?

[twilit thistle]

😭 replacement needed, Maru is defective, can’t even break a shield.

[devout horizon]

I still took skill. It’s just that a talent buff would override a character’s ability buff, which was a downgrade

[cyan tide]

Skill issue

[karmic chasm]

Imagine you are pulling for T6, and right as you are about to purchase the final silver necessary to get those last pulls, your card declines. You are left with T5, and indescribable sadness for the rest of your days

[devout horizon]

God I have not needed to search my mind for Genshin information in YEARS

[surreal berry]

I don’t know what the short text of (F.A.Y.T.A)…

[hasty ocean]

Fahh Are You Talking About (can't put F word in disc chat)

[cyan tide]

Party play is limited to healing allies, giving dmg buffs or debuffing enemies. There's nothing that really changes how you would play a character

[surreal berry]

The words R right there…
I don’t care catcha duplicate characters…
But what I mean is… for the limited characters.

[hasty ocean]

What is bro on about now

[short locust]

What if his T5 was killing enemies blinded grants 1 Stag stack? 👀

[cyan tide]

Jaren's talents are kinda boring, they just give bigger numbers

[hasty ocean]

Yo that actually doesn't sound half bad yk

[karmic chasm]

I mean he’s an offense. And he’s more than fun enough from the get go.

[devout horizon]

Fair.

I’ll use Jolder t2 as an example then. 15% less cooldown. 3 seconds less, mind you.

If you use her abilities off cooldown, you’re likely to get her 20 second cooldown (which is now 17 seconds) will be halved (8.5 seconds) and her 18 second cooldown (the one that reduces cooldowns) will be halved as well (9 seconds)

Switching which one takes longer throws off timings. And can make it so you waste a skill cooldown reduction if you aren’t paying attention to the skills itself and are, say, using muscle memory.

[surreal berry]

🦎 🦎

[devout horizon]

I have Jolder’s timings engraved into my mind atp, so that talent would actually kinda suck to get used to

Also sorry if I worded that horrifically

Oh wait it’s worse than that. It’s not 8.5 seconds. It’s 7 seconds because of how it works

It’s 15% reduction, then 50% of the original, equating to 7 seconds left on the cooldown

[true mauve]

Erm Jaren is a cope Gwynn, she is better. They both unload shotty, insta reload, unload shotty, insta reload. Both have 2 dash charges, both sig1 are best for add clear, etc.

[cyan tide]

Gwynn, Estela and Maru are all offense and they have talents that change their gameplay in meaningful ways. Jaren's talents just increase his multipliers

[bitter estuary]

TIL handcanon's get buffed then idk yeah

[torn sigil]

i thought i was being weird on that and i was like....is this normal?? 😭

[karmic chasm]

I mean like I said, he doesn’t need a gameplay change, I think he’s innately fun. I enjoy that he comes with a built in fidget spinning emote too

[devout horizon]

You have t2 Jolder?

[cyan tide]

I forgot how bad Jaren's T5 is, who thought that was a good idea?

[short locust]

And then nerfed his T6 on launch lmaoo

[bitter estuary]

anyways jaren is supposedly a 4* char originally so it might as well be the worse 5* in the game

i mean look

63000 instead of 63500

[surreal berry]

???

[surreal berry]

Fidget spinner

[hasty ocean]

The dev who was in charge of Jarens Kit and Talents:

[karmic chasm]

You can spam his S1 and it just twirls his gun

[surreal berry]

👀

[karmic chasm]

Bc if there’s no target, it simply resets the cooldown

[cyan tide]

I mean, I think his kit is fine albeit a bit clunky. His talents just feel like a last second inclusion, T5 being the biggest offender

[surreal berry]

Yes… not all characters but some… yes.

[karmic chasm]

I mean specifically for him. The same is true for Rossi, but with him, it’s practical, because it procs artifacts

[hasty ocean]

(U saw nothing when I posted it the first time)

[torn sigil]

i freakin hate that scene 😂 😭

[surreal berry]

Do yall agree with the artifacts?…

[hasty ocean]

Him after waking up the sarge: (He got a wombo combo supreme meal)

[karmic chasm]

No

[errant narwhal]

That was a lot harder than I expected

Expanse level 40 was no joke

[surreal berry]

@karmic chasm
Is it some artifacts u agree with or…
U don’t agree with all of it?…

[karmic chasm]

Slot 1 and 3 have other options I think

[bitter estuary]

if the next 5* was actually a 4* but reannounced as a 5* with no changes i'm not surprised

[calm vortex]

I like how the sentiments towards Jaren in this channel are so different each time I check the chat, its pretty entertaining

[torn sigil]

eh? DR nominated in game award 2025?

[surreal berry]

@bitter estuary #off-topic u like Lego Fortnite?…
Do u have a city built?…

[raw pawn]

What did i walk into

[surreal berry]

Yes… so go vote…
Or is that over?…

[hasty ocean]

This what u walked into (were flaming Jaren bc T5 is useless)

[raw pawn]

What happend to batman lol

[surreal berry]

I got a joke to share… …

[surreal berry]

Why is the tennis ball 🎾 getting bigger?…

[hasty ocean]

Had a reflection on Jason Todd when he died he was "aching"

[surreal berry]

Then. it hit me.

[raw pawn]

Also why do i have this iron banner symbol next to my name?

[cyan tide]

Global launch role

[raw pawn]

Oh, ok, still confused on it

[hasty ocean]

How many people are on their phones in the dark?

[surreal berry]

In the dark?…

[raw pawn]

Im waiting for my pizza to be done so im not in the dark lol

[surreal berry]

I use dark mode.

[hasty ocean]

Dark mode u say?

[hasty ocean]

WAKEY WAKEY

[raw pawn]

Oh god why scout

[hasty ocean]

What's wrong with Scout he's peak and so is Heavy

[torn sigil]

is this what enemies saw when Jaren threw his bomb? 😭

[raw pawn]

Heavy and engineer were my go too's on tf2

Sadly tho, im unable to play that anymore

[true mauve]

No way!!! @bitter estuary

[surreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eyes-camera-security-nightvision-gif-12739426533096511488

[twilit thistle]

I guess I’m off to play shifting ques. I wonder if I’ll get a sub 20 (minutes)

[raw pawn]

I had the tan... 2? Curse for awhile

140+ draws till i finally got jolder lol

[surreal berry]

Nice speeder but… Nothing better than a broomstick 🧹

[raw pawn]

Boomstick

[surreal berry]

Broom 🧹

[raw pawn]

Imagine having a broomstick to hit enemies with ingame lol

[surreal berry]

In racing u can

[raw pawn]

Oh i forgot to do my racing thing god dang it

[hasty ocean]

Meanwhile Jaren relaxing just throwing blinding grenades all over the place

[surreal berry]

Nah racing got nothing right now… until dawning is available…

[raw pawn]

Yeah i tried jaren, mans got the hat i have in d2, id get him but im not gonna lol

[raw pawn]

I think its timelocked tho, in my case it said its from 2pm to 2:30pm?

[torn sigil]

HAHA LMAOOO i could imagine it 😭

[torn sigil]

i WANT him because....uhhh... yeehaw~

[surreal berry]

In my case… 6:00 - 6:30

[raw pawn]

Only reason im not grabbing him is because the grind id have to do f2p wise

I spent most my leafs trying to get jolder alone, let alone jaren

[surreal berry]

Using leaf 🍂 for energy?…

[raw pawn]

I have 75 leafs rn, out of all from the campaign, side quests, certain story quests for characters and triumphs

Jolder required so many as i had to go to 140... i think 142? To get her alone

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-movie-emmet-howdy-guys-come-sit-on-me-cowboy-gif-60076264887171343

[surreal berry]

I may only use leaf 🍂 for 🪫 🔋 once or twice a month…

[raw pawn]

Idk what you mean by leaf for energy

[surreal berry]

Instead of silver($$$) for 🔋
U can use leaves 🍂 for 🔋 energy

[raw pawn]

Ok, wellp ima go enjoy pizza and yt for awhile before i grind for the title im after lol

[surreal berry]

Hope that be some educational YT. Or entertainment.

[raw pawn]

Eh ima watch chibirobo thats abt it

[surreal berry]

… … enjoy 😊

[twilit thistle]

Instead of leaves you can just buy it all with silver

[torn sigil]

bang bang shoot shoot bullet bullet gun 😭

[surreal berry]

While…
Machine guns…

[surreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/shooting-a-machine-gun-vanguard-firing-a-machine-gun-intense-gunfire-open-fire-gif-20295147

And rockets.
https://tenor.com/view/halo-master-chief-odst-rocket-launcher-gif-15782921

[twilit thistle]

That’s an accurate depiction of what compi did to me with Estella

[dusk quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-clone-commando-clone-commando-clone-wars-gif-23838141

[torn sigil]

im just happy that there was a cowboy in Destiny: Rising 😭

[dusk quiver]

b4 gta 6 too

[surreal berry]

Hmm… but why America 🇺🇸 outfit?…

[torn sigil]

D2 dont have one, no?

[torn sigil]

wym? 😭

[surreal berry]

Dis is why…

[dusk quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/invfed-invictus-interglactic-federation-star-citizen-gif-27170876

[torn sigil]

i don't understand. sorry

[surreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-america-randy-marsh-south-park-s20e1-member-berries-gif-20603612

[echo horizon]

In yalls opinion, the four horned ram rocket launcher, what are the best perks for it

[twilit thistle]

What exactly do you expect the concept art for a space cowboy to look like?

[surreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-eating-spike-spiegel-cowboy-bebop-gif-3239302488133628503

[indigo solar]

Niaatiks go brrr

[surreal berry]

That hook!!!! 🪝 was roadhog!! 1.0

[surreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-gif-27435498

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-roadhog-roadhog-hook-sombra-across-the-map-gif-14006046512759166444

[bitter estuary]

nice, this thing can do the S curve skip in virtual space

[brave dune]

p

yeet

[wraith totem]

Any Jarens take on the void expanse 31-40 using Octant and void hand cannon?

[true mauve]

They were pretty nonstop last hour

[true mauve]

Huh?

[bitter estuary]

so so after going through that triangle thingamajig you go use boost on the first s curve and then boost after hitting the 2nd boost pad which launches you over the wall, and you can skip the 2 circular part and save like 10s

i dont have a recording but will send it like after it goes live again

[twilit thistle]

Never like that for me 😞

Once u get to a certain rank I think everyone adds u or invites u. It’s like the same groups every single time.

[karmic chasm]

This guy knows ball

[gritty rune]

Why doesn’t Destiny Rising like, have a non lightbearer character?

Like once you die, it’s over. Whenever you select them in the character menu it’s just a gravestone

[twilit thistle]

My solution was to create an identical copy of my Umeko on the eu servers. This way I can actually play and maintain the skill, which had began to atrophy. Tbh the other server is kinda better in some ways than ours. Ppl are nicer

[true mauve]

Idk bro i was queuing against jordan and compi

[true mauve]

Nah people are mean on emea xD

[twilit thistle]

Bold statement.

[fiery musk]

Lol, Jaren's card is in the store already. And yet, NA still no Estela card.

[twilit thistle]

Even the rng on EMEA was better.

[iron sphinx]

can you solo the 3rd raid encounter?

[fiery musk]

Yes.

[lyric skiff]

Less ego than na tho 😂

[fiery musk]

Unless there's been a patch since people bothered doing it, anyways.

[iron sphinx]

how? do you just shoot at weakspots randomly and hope you get it or is there a way to get out of the room with the monitors?

[lyric skiff]

U go to one b walk to other screen, then when yu done both u tp out

[fiery musk]

Yep, weak point gacha.

[fiery musk]

This is for duo.

[lyric skiff]

Oh i forgot it dont work solo my b

Rossi ult n just kill all spots at once tbh 😂

[true mauve]

Not from what I seen 😭

[fiery musk]

Pretty sure I witnessed this strategy getting debunked.

[lyric skiff]

Bro ur telling me europeans r more egotistical than americans? 😂

[true mauve]

NA is so super nice and respectful

[lyric skiff]

Idk bro ive met so many bums from NA 😂

Maybe its a culture thing

[fiery musk]

NA an EU have about the same ratio of high ego jerks.

[lyric skiff]

Nobody even talks in emea 😂

[true mauve]

EMEA chat they were rippin on dude for being from Italy, is that like Ohio?

[lyric skiff]

Italy? Tf wrong with tht 😂some alabama bs ig

[iron sphinx]

i forgot there was a ingame voice chat until someone said something in a raid last week for the first time lol

[true mauve]

They were all like "atleast I dont get stabbed when I go out"

[lyric skiff]

Ive use voice like 3 times since release 😂nobody uses it

[lyric skiff]

I mean u will get stabbed here but more likely just beaten up

[fiery musk]

NA doesn't really use built in voice-chat either. Most people will be in their local group discord servers.

[true mauve]

U can get stabbed anywhere 💀

[lyric skiff]

Knives r for girls n lil sissy boys ☺️we get brought up to use hands n feet

[bitter estuary]

ah its the same as emea then lol

[lyric skiff]

U only grab something if they do is the unspoken rule in scotland

[bitter estuary]

idk if its 107 or 105 days left till the 2nd gampaign

[lyric skiff]

Too many days

[fiery musk]

🤔 2nd campaign? You mean Season 4's main story update?

[lyric skiff]

I just wanna explore a new map :/

[true mauve]

We just hug it out

[lyric skiff]

As u get stabbed in the kidneys 😂😂

[raw pawn]

Wellp i completed jangshi metros stuff just gotta maxout the lvl their but everything else is done lol

[bitter estuary]

which.. is the 2nd gampaign

but anyways

[true mauve]

Nah, dont want to damage product those sell for good money

[lyric skiff]

Ah i see, a fellow businessman of culture 🧐 good day to u sir

[true mauve]

NA just full of bromances fr

[lyric skiff]

Ive got one lil group im friendly with 😍

[true mauve]

Kinda gettin weird ngl but its nice that everyone so nice

[lyric skiff]

Mf's r all 6k n stuff in gates n inv me 😂

[raw pawn]

Im hoping no one else deals with the amount of crashes i do lol

[lyric skiff]

Idk why they invite me 🤣im cheeks

Its funny their italians too 😂

[true mauve]

Oh, then they must be cheeks too 🤣

[lyric skiff]

My other best friend outside game also italian 😂

[raw pawn]

How so?

[lyric skiff]

Since merge and s2 vex sg is laggy asf n get me 300+ ping

I did way better s1 cuz i cud actually move n not rubber band around

[raw pawn]

Same, i get lag as well and maintenance is about to start so yayy

Ive crashed a total of 20+ times today if i counted correctly :3

[lyric skiff]

Anytime u matchmake any op or anything if theres 1 apac fml might aswell quit

[raw pawn]

I still do my best to play with the crashing issue
Mainly cause ive dealt with worse

[lyric skiff]

N they did the merge to fix q times(they didnt fix ****)

Q's r still mostly dead all day

[raw pawn]

Que times will always be... slow for some things

Mainly cause people quit the game and move on most the time untill new content

[lyric skiff]

Wanma pvp at 11pm? Haahha wait 2 hours for 1 match

[proud fiber]

anyone else having controller issues using mumu player

[raw pawn]

Mumu player?

[lyric skiff]

N then play tht match on 300+ms🤧

[proud fiber]

says controller detected but it ain't working

[lyric skiff]

Ik emu but i do not know mumu 😂

[raw pawn]

For me its every time i go into different matches after the 4th or 5th one

Then it starts lagging and after maybe the 8th it crashes

[lyric skiff]

Have u tried unplugging it and plugging it back in😂had to ask

[raw pawn]

Or if i start hopping between different places on open world stuff for too long, like 20 minutes long

[proud fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-cat-cat-stare-stare-bruh-cat-really-n-gif-25597234

[lyric skiff]

I think ive had 2 crashes since day 1 but lag is every other game or op,post merge

Used to be a solid 30-60ms even in gates

[raw pawn]

I joined when it launched but didnt play till a week ago due to my phones issues

[lyric skiff]

Day 1 overloaded server had less lag than s2 gates 😂😂😂

How did u make it WORSE ......fools...

[raw pawn]

Bungie logic

[lyric skiff]

Freaking netease 🙄🤧

All they care about is £$€¥

Like most of mainline gaming these days its sad to see