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[raw ermine]

nah because they're not always best in slots, mix and match any good rolled old ones you have

[short locust]

I skipped every LE Character so far, because I knew it was unsustainable

[raw ermine]

jarens slot 3 will be the new best in slot for hellhest though

[oak temple]

it doesn't do jacksh

[true mauve]

Dont min/max majority of characters clear content with generic arti sets. Only build into your cal op choices or favorites

[brittle stirrup]

you are so right gongshowdad i love you man

[raw ermine]

yea get to base 200 (tier 9) for artis and you're good to go

[rustic moat]

i used one today on Ning because he had a void boost. I thought i could swap it for Arc boost, but nope it was random and gave me Solar

[oak temple]

the fomo is there

[true mauve]

Build 1 generic set they can all use

[oak temple]

This is why wolf, ning or jolder investment is top choice of investment

[true mauve]

They stay in game, you miss out on nothing 💀

[raw ermine]

slot 1 ring of abundance XD

[true mauve]

Slot 2 ring of safeguarding slot 3 Inverted Fury Slot4 Bellicose Panetisemal

[raw ermine]

belicose is a strong choice, but i always pick 3&4 based on playstyle of character

[true mauve]

I said 1 generic set 😜 my Ning and Rossi share builds because of substats

[oak temple]

that "this is not optimal" feeling always nags at you

[short locust]

I feel that like a mf

[true mauve]

Nah, if I am clearing content and getting all rewards I feel good as heck

[raw ermine]

i still havent built an arc character haha, i have 2 top voids and a solar.

[oak temple]

Speaking of general, Inverted Fury & Bellicose planetisimal are top choices

[true mauve]

I dont PvE but when I do, I slack

[oak temple]

if you wanna climb the board, it's the diff you're looking for

[raw ermine]

with the amount of damage resist stacks you'll be able to get on jaren. i think sympathetic evolution will be his slot 4 pick

[true mauve]

You only had to max Ning so far maybe Helhest and/or Maru

[short locust]

Anyone can clear content, there isn't much of it to do anyway.

[oak temple]

Arc era is gone for now

[raw ermine]

ok then run xuan wei through master calam?

[short locust]

Lol where this this come from

[lusty tree]

Sooo guys i was wondering is the old perfect good pick for next upcoming character Jaren

[true mauve]

If I had him built I would. Jotunn for Spread or Octant, ez pz

[rustic moat]

might want to wait and see what his new exotic brings to the table

[short locust]

I was referring to this. As in, any person can just "clear" content. 90% of it is a joke and there isn't much in the first place @raw ermine

[true mauve]

Ning still clings somehow

[oak temple]

I really only hate 1 thing in this game: it doesn't allow me to play all the characters in their fullest potential. Sometimes I wish this game was B2P.

[raw ermine]

thought you meant any character lmao, mb boo

[oak temple]

hard to imagine how

[brittle stirrup]

Rising is the new destiny 3 it is the most f2p and most non predatory game ever /j

[lusty tree]

I watched it the last word reveal it looks good but idk if i want to get it because its gonna take so much time to max it 😭

[short locust]

Yeah the only character I really built was Ning. Rest of em wasn't sustainable, and my Tan got half built just for Expanse rewards in the process

[rustic moat]

thats my biggest complaint. With all the new characters and limited upgrade mats, you dont have much to work with

[oak temple]

I love many 4star chars but also having good time in this game. Can't have both though.

[gritty rune]

There’s not much content to use them in anyways

[short locust]

Ngl 4* Characters are either downgrades from an existing unit, or will soon become that

[raw ermine]

ning will basically always be usefull because of his speed, unless theres no arc or rapid... i think jaren may edge him out a bit in that case

[brittle stirrup]

kabr can clear all content trust

[true mauve]

This is why you should have resources saved like you do for a new meta

[short locust]

Yeah Jaren will Def be better overall. More Varied Shinka/Element Coverage, just as much clear, and he's also p fast. As fast? No. But fast

[oak temple]

I love Finnala but her dmg output is not so good I hear. So Jaren is the way to go into the new meta.

[brittle stirrup]

are people STILL arguing about characters potentially powercreeping ning fei lmao

[short locust]

It blows my mind that Jaren is just Mythic Wolf when you think about how the ability spam rotation plays at T6

[raw ermine]

he'll be fast af, 2 dodge charges and many ways to refund charges. and they give a 40% speed boost

[pulsar coral]

Not even close but pop off

[brittle stirrup]

when cayde-6 or 7 joins rising it will be the best game ever imo

[oak temple]

Ning is still the best at what he does, mobility. Unless they introduce another character with 2 mobile abilities :/

[true mauve]

Cayde would def throw a 67 at ikora

[brittle stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/sixseven-six-seven-six-seve-67-gif-14143337669032958349

[pulsar coral]

Atp they should just introduce a character that throws nukes as their signature ability and it has 10 charges

[short locust]

Spam dash and refund blast is p close to spam High noon to refresh 3 charges of it + his flash idk. They even have the same fail condition of falling off if abilities don't 1 shot

[raw ermine]

toland > cayde

[oak temple]

Rezyl > Cayde

[pulsar coral]

SkibidiRizzler > Cayde

[brittle stirrup]

Shaw Han >>>

[raw ermine]

praedyth > cayde

[pulsar coral]

Finnala > cayde

[raw ermine]

new video from aztecross "IM IN DESTINY: RISING"

[true mauve]

Im not excited for Jaren more I look at his kit. Bro cant auto lock on to lightbearers in pvp

[oak temple]

Sniper > Cayde lmao

[raw ermine]

you need autolock?

[short locust]

I honestly forget PvP is in this game lmao

[true mauve]

Wolf is Exotic tier not lego or mythic 😭

[pulsar coral]

Tbh this game needs more fun activities you can do that dont need pinnacle to make the mode worthwhile

[oak temple]

The new event is pretty fun. No sweat at all.

[brittle stirrup]

lucky10p child support >>

[true mauve]

To lock on 6 times before being 3 shotted by enemy? Yes

[raw ermine]

i'd like to see the other 3 members of kabrs fireteam that were lost to time

[short locust]

I don't mind sweat, most people are awful in general. Im just juggling too many games at once to play mobile game pvp

[raw ermine]

imagine kabr just getting fully deleted from the game after he goes into the vault

[true mauve]

Top50 most fights are done less than 2 seconds, weapons hit too hard and shoot to fast

[maiden sage]

How you get that new snowflake emblem

[true mauve]

Estella can 3shot you across map with Heir Apparent faster than an Umeko can snipe

[raw ermine]

play distance, pre aim peeks, use movement to break aim. same as d2 really

[true mauve]

Read above

[oak temple]

most people are playing on their phone, wait until you meet the sweaties

[short locust]

D2 PvP fell off a long time ago, but man I had good times on it

[true mauve]

Also Ning and now Jaren will 3 movement ability across map into your face

Maru shield just laughs at you

[raw ermine]

some weapons need tuning i agree

[oak temple]

Btw I accidentally got to Master 1 in Calamity. Now I'm getting wrecked at every attempt to prevent relegation.

[true mauve]

The pvp is fun, but the meta is tough to crack into right now. He needs autolocks for top end play

[brittle stirrup]

i accidentally had 4 kids and i need to feed them so i cannot spend money on rising

[thin valve]

happens everyday ffs

[oak temple]

you don't "accident" 4 times in a row.

[short locust]

I can and will 💅

[raw ermine]

we'll see how he truley plays once hes out, not seen any pvp gameplay of him yet but he'll dom any cqc encounters

[thin valve]

Nah it was 4 at the same time. twins

[oak temple]

Like a story about a wife accidently got pregnant by her husband's friend I read the other day :/

[brittle stirrup]

idk what to say bro

[thin valve]

hate when this happens

[true mauve]

Its in the water

[brittle stirrup]

at least i have 4 children who can grow up to go in mr beasts theme park 💪

[oak temple]

"I happened to fall on his weenie, oopsie"

[grave reef]

Yo is anyone also pissed that when u have a character on full Talents , u still get them in the permanent draw rather than character u dont have full talents on

[fervent root]

Anyone know where to drop the link for the dawning voting event?

[raw ermine]

last one to leave gets a hot meal instead of feastables

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-whale-sharks-gif-26141128

[brittle stirrup]

having kids is kinda like spending 10 boats on a banner tbh. you might get glimmer or bright dust or card fragments

but maybe you pull 4 helhest at one time

[oak temple]

plant is new pet, pet is new kid, kid is now...exotic

[short locust]

T6 a Character in 1 ten pull 💀

[true mauve]

Is T6 the cell block number when you cant pay child support on all 10?

[brittle stirrup]

t0 and he is elon mump
t6 and he is undertaker from wwe

[short locust]

Chat what the hell is this supposed to mean

[brittle stirrup]

i dont want my child to look like elon musk

[short locust]

That man is built funny

[brittle stirrup]

eloss mump no rizz

[twilit thistle]

It should be next week when I will assemble the new PvP setup. I have been targeted and mistreated by so many players that it’s time for revenge.

[oak temple]

how to play Umeko? I got 5 copies of Izanaghi's in my bag.

[tough goblet]

nooticing

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/billymadison-peopletokill-gif-21322314

[dusk quiver]

huh

[oak temple]

yeah, to have them kids now you must be either lil crazy or filthy rich.

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/chia-chia-pet-gif-13763475

[dusk quiver]

what are you on about?

[true mauve]

Jaren time is it? I think ive only ever seen you play Umeko

[thorny frost]

I actually like it personally at least for legendaries. This means that with free permanent tickets I have a chance of getting a limited ticket by exchanging in the dupe currency for it.

[true mauve]

Hey there is no EU server only emea and apac, this is normal right?

[grave reef]

Like the fortuna crystals?

[cosmic trellis]

Jfc I see this message first and nearly choked. So accurate

Good one ahaha

[grave reef]

What tickets are u talking about

[cosmic trellis]

Boats I think

[cosmic trellis]

Gen Z nonsense response. Their meaning is clear.

[kindred nymph]

We can get back on topic now. Thank you.

[thorny frost]

Yea the fortune crystal. I never spend Lumia Leaves on the permanent banner, so when ever I get a maxed Tier Dupe with the free permanent boats (I refer to them as tickets) it just means I get a legendary boat out of it.

[placid thunder]

EMEA is Europe (European server)

[bitter estuary]

i tried a no death run, was horrible mentally but atleast i didn’t die

🥀 im so trash in the game there's no saving w/ my skills

[cosmic trellis]

I can do no deaths but I rarely get sub 10 with helhest 🫠 nice time tho

[cyan tide]

Just make up for it with money 💳

[bitter estuary]

i wished there was motion controls with controller bc i keep rotating my controller :/

[cosmic trellis]

Jeez you’d destroy it with kbm controls then ahaha

Give yourself more credit, that’s not trash at all

[karmic chasm]

Yea bro I don’t get those times. Don’t beat yourself up

[cosmic trellis]

Ikr, I get sub 7 with maru but helhest…not so much

Both t2 and 70k

[karmic chasm]

I also play with thumbs on an iPhone 13 but that’s besides the point

[cosmic trellis]

And I’m on pc with mouse 😅

[bitter estuary]

oh wow i play on a 13 inch ipad and im complaining about me not being able to see crap 🥀

[twilit thistle]

I’ve been doing it while listing to music, cuz I don’t have the cords to listen to my phones audio. So I got a tablet, and cords to give audio while charging. Gonna use that with a mount I already have. I should also be able to use a controller too. I might break out the very aggressive Estella setup. Or stay on Umeko

[karmic chasm]

Vro

[bitter estuary]

hypothetically if i can't see things then i assume i'm blind

[twilit thistle]

Hopefully I don’t get paired with nings that die all the time and blame anyone who isn’t Ning.

[karmic chasm]

Imagine me in calamity ops

[karmic chasm]

He’s not even as op anymore, idk what they are whining about

[late flicker]

I finally saw the new Gunslinger trailer!! TAKE MY MONEY!

[true mauve]

Tbh, game sounds aint missin nothing. I hate VC i listen to music also to help lock in lol. Dang dude sounds like you bought a mini television, heck yeah! What controller you gonna rock?

[true mauve]

I imagine Rossi in overseer

I like to cough in the mic a bunch when people want to VC

Or use accents

[dusk socket]

https://discord.com/channels/1267806213656023071/1445467724770705541

[twilit thistle]

If I can’t program it to be the layout I need, idk tbh. My setup is simply swapping X and r3. Stick has always been jump for me. I’ll use the same ds4 controller if I can, I’ve taken it apart to clean it and fix drift so many times the dpad up is broken but it still works.

[true mauve]

Dont even use D pad in game. Buttons arnt swappable, I have a major issue with melee on B or O and not on right stick R3

[twilit thistle]

Apparently if I mute dialogue, I can ACTUALLY HEAR the game and not the two narrators glitching out during the endgame

[true mauve]

Also i for some reason like to click L3 and R3 during fights and it pauses my controls and gives me a mouse pointer, very annoy

[open wedge]

3 packs... what... Please xD

[twilit thistle]

It’s android, and I will program it if needed. I manually did it on pc. It will interpret r3 as being X.

[cyan tide]

They're so stingy with these event rewards it's insane lol

[true mauve]

How you do that? Oh is NA sg queue poppin yet? I made an EMEA account and gave myself a good bot name

[open wedge]

We're sitting with our friends on VC and we can't stop laughing and admiring /s

[indigo solar]

You and your teammates have been separated for quite a while now. Regroup and attack together!

[true mauve]

Your ally is under attack in the Ice Field, bruh we all 3 in Arcology 😭

[wise siren]

How is everyone doing todau

[true mauve]

Snowball fight when

[twilit thistle]

That is the 2nd worst. The one at the end breaks during high end gameplay. Research contribution 😭 he just keeps talking about it

[indigo solar]

WOAH that much? Looks like I'll need to upgrade my bandwidth!

Have you taken a moment to look at your research contribution? It's a measure of a team's submitted data. Some teams are already leading by a mile!

[true mauve]

"You're more of a hunter than a researcher arnt you?"

[twilit thistle]

The only useful one is when he notices you kill a player. Those I miss, bc sometimes i don’t realize they were bots. Bots don’t produce that line.

The lady needs removed. She only says ice field now, she never gets the location right

[open wedge]

In game, blah... But...
It's been three years since we experienced a substantial snowfall... I hope this winter season brings its best, or else the kids might forget the joy of playing in the snow.

[true mauve]

We already got like alot

[twilit thistle]

I call her “Motivational Karen”. Also the main guy, is it donnivan? The data nucleus line breaks when you pick it up. He says to hunt someone, then says you picked it up. It’s so confusing

[misty karma]

Let's gooo!

[karmic chasm]

“||Do not redeem it||”

[karmic chasm]

I would love to try, but I don’t have a team

[violet patio]

Does anyone know how to use the enrichment no 1 cannot figure it out for the life of me

Been trying to catch the last exotic from haven for like 2hrs now

[calm vortex]

Looking at the early access footage for Jaren Ward and Last Word I havent seen anyone test or talk about it yet but I wonder if the buff you gain from ADS and Hipfire stack or if one overwrites the other

[mental dagger]

its under switching baits

[violet patio]

Weird it doesn't show up as an option to use it for me or I'm just dense which is probably true

[karmic chasm]

And when you go to fish, you’ll see a little tab that says “peaceful” with a plus sign. That’s where you put the bait

[mental dagger]

middle right side
where it says peaceful

[violet patio]

🤦

[karmic chasm]

I didn’t know either for the longest time

[violet patio]

Thank you I felt so dense

[eternal orbit]

Hello

[violet patio]

This last fish is stupid to catch I've been here for like 2 hrs tapping like an idiot

[bitter estuary]

i hate barrages

also got carried anyways

[karmic chasm]

I need a carry to expert 2

[bitter estuary]

i could, to master 1 demotion ig

71k ning/hel and 70k maru

[karmic chasm]

Bc I’m so close to being put back in unchanged expert 1

[karmic chasm]

Who would I need to run? Could do it in about 45-1hr. I have 70k T1 Maru, T2 Ning, and a 68k T1 Helhest

[bitter estuary]

wait are you apac/emea?

[karmic chasm]

Nope 😭

[bitter estuary]

either way if the us eurasia merge happened the lag would be insane

[bitter estuary]

consistent setup (no need for above t0) is maru, hel and ning

[karmic chasm]

Yea but you need to know when to unstuck

[eternal orbit]

Is kabr okay to play as a free to play character? I read in forums that he is hard to play in the higher level content

[bitter estuary]

oh yeah fair

[karmic chasm]

He’s meh, but if you like him, go for it

[eternal orbit]

Is there a defense person that’s better? I want to main defense

[bitter estuary]

rossi, he also has piercing and rapid fire coverage

[karmic chasm]

Rossi 100%

[eternal orbit]

Okay I will check them out I appreciate it @karmic chasm

[bitter estuary]

plus you don't lose much maining rossi bc you can use the same crossbow in ning fei

[karmic chasm]

Not a problem dude, here’s my build

[eternal orbit]

I basically am the type of person who loves to go into a fight and laugh at the tickles

And come out not dead that’s how I play most games XD

[karmic chasm]

Then Rossi is PERFECT. I literally tanked the entirety of the Solar Storm modifier in GM today

[eternal orbit]

Cool I will get them then

[devout horizon]

[true mauve]

Is that like releasing Maru just before Jaren? Switch and bait

[gritty rune]

Ngl Jaren has like some absolutely useless talent nodes outside of 1, 4 and 6

Extend blind by 1 second. Slow clap

[karmic chasm]

They both will be fun dawg 😎

[karmic chasm]

Agreed. Going for T1

[gritty rune]

Maru’s VA is like, really really good

[summer ledge]

To be fair we did not have any spread mythics yet. Gwynn from way back has impact. Remember her? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Releasing another piercing mythic right after getting what is probably the single most broken piercing character in the entire game might not have done well for sales unless they made his damage borderline demonic.

[gritty rune]

Well, it didn’t do well for sales anyways lol

I don’t think you can do well for sales with the game the way it is, without content people just won’t play and spend

[summer ledge]

At least we have everything covered by mythics now, and she is actually quite good even at T0.

Her upgrades don't feel quite as mandatory as Helhest T6 did, at least to me.

[gritty rune]

They basically copied Genshin’s atrocious endgame without also giving its really consistent content cadence

[calm vortex]

Jaren's talent nodes are largely just "this thing in your kit now deals more damage"

[gritty rune]

Her early cons are great though

[summer ledge]

They are good. I never doubted that. They just aren't mandatory the same way level 3 drone was.

[calm vortex]

His largest node is T6 that gives him an extra charge on stance during Stag

[gritty rune]

I mean, double S1 is big. Especially in PvP

A shots from her S1 is 100-0 in SG

[calm vortex]

His passives are also kinda weird cause one of them is just his Super does escalating damage when you hit the same target which is usually just part of the super itself but here its a separate passive

[gritty rune]

Her later talents are kinda ehhh tho

[summer ledge]

The shield also turns incoming damage into charge so I lived without it. Nice, perhaps, but unless they do something to reduce her resonance and recharge to her 1 from her shield I can live my life not thinking I missed much.

[upper quartz]

https://www.playdestinyrising.com/h5/xqdzz/?pageKey=2ebdfbdacdaa3757ad2b3792c5022b578dd5e98d4c3e65588cd38603d3a99845858c56d085cec377bf7c8f9ee6f3d166&lang=en

[summer ledge]

10 away from a guaranteed Jaren and a good number of leaves in reserve means I will at least grt T1 unlocked.

[gritty rune]

Hey it could be worse. Look at Maru’s super passive. What’s even the point of it

[calm vortex]

but also being fair Jaren's kit is just loaded

[summer ledge]

Just waiting for the day they remember Finnala and Xuan exist with some help.

He is fun, and he has extremely good single hit damage, but outside of that set up single hit, he has damage resistance and that feels like about it? Unfortunately that does not mean much when every team has a Helhest or Tan with infinite healing uptime.

[calm vortex]

People like to rag on him but Xuan Wei is doing pretty alright, cant say anything about Finnala though but i know shes got her own cult

[summer ledge]

I personally enjoy him, but having a fusion is a big enough handicap without having to compete with the popular characters.

[dusty spire]

he shines trust lol

[indigo solar]

his primary doesn't matter too much because he fires it like twice every five minutes

[summer ledge]

I know. I am top in my state with him. It just takes a bit more brainpower than most of this community seems to have or like using.

[eternal orbit]

How do I get them do I just summon them?

[calm vortex]

Xuan Wei is either unloading his shotgun into something or using the Fusion to proc aftermath on enemies you dont want to spend shotty ammo on cause Aftermath is like over half his damage output

[gritty rune]

Tbh I’m not sure if he’ll actually be good in CO.

His passive stacking is gonna be an issue when things die really fast

[mental dagger]

i cannot wait for maru to get phassed out i dont want to play her anymore bruh

[summer ledge]

I tried it and got my best individual score, but I was also competing with an Estela who had average Estela IQ and a Ning who was only trying to do unstuck skips and wouldn't kill anything.

[gritty rune]

You need like 20 hits with a couple of S1 uses to fill it

[indigo solar]

we were talking about xuan btw

[gritty rune]

Oh

[calm vortex]

I do like Xuan Wei though ive personally been able to use him in every piece of relevant content, though I really only use him in CalOps if I have a coordinated group with a dedicated runner

[summer ledge]

He has good talents, especially for his super and the one that gives him 40% damage resistance for using any ability.

[indigo solar]

imagine playing calam

[summer ledge]

It just takes a lot of setup to use him well.

[indigo solar]

I have 3 calamity clears this season

[true mauve]

Tbf if you removed helhest damage buff she wouldnt be so cracked. Imagine her buffs on Jaren making him even better 😜 supports always are cracked because they have all the buffs

[calm vortex]

PvP hes really funny cause you can just yoink people

[karmic chasm]

I find her so fun :(

it’s like constant, constant explosions

[summer ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/torgue-explosions-borderlands-gaming-game-gif-16537893

[karmic chasm]

Yep, use blue boats on the permanent banner (do not use leaves for blue boats)

[indigo solar]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-rico-yes-rico-kaboom-gif-24767016

[mental dagger]

she would be
teamwide ms, heavies, buffs
she is just like ning with being built for calams
nings dmg is not crazy and yet the next cycle might be the first and only one where he has a chance to not be in BiS comp

[calm vortex]

and anyone whos CC immune against the yoink just takes an immediate chunk of damage and now has 3 stacks of aftermath on them cause yeah its also a knowledge check on Xuan Wei that CC Immune enemies for whatever reason receive 3 stacks of aftermath from both your sigs instead of their listed amount

[mental dagger]

he exclusively excels at movement, helhest is great to best at like 5 things rn

[summer ledge]

It is a good portion of damage in most content. Some enemies seem to get both effects for immediate damage and confinement, but it feels so random I think it might be a bug of some kind.

Some miniboss centurions get both, for example, but only maybe half the time.

[calm vortex]

Normally Grapple only applied 1 stack of aftermath and Fist applies 2, but CC immune enemies receive 3 from both

[summer ledge]

Which reminds me of another one of his talents making his abilities loop into each other extremely well. His talents are extremely good and he drops so frequently that I imagine most people had him maxed fairly early, so he is good for low-ish investment early on.

[calm vortex]

He also has some funny builds you can do with him, hes pretty flexible with artifacts, especially if you have his Talent to heal from weapon mastery

[eternal orbit]

Okay

[summer ledge]

I remember he was everywhere in Bar for a while because of the yoink.

Never played during that time since I still get Immortal and Forsaken era One-Eyed Mask flashbacks even trying to think about Destiny PvP, though. Tried it for the event and immediately got off again after my first match was against a few top server-wide Bar players.

[calm vortex]

and I think the most disgusting part for Xuan Wei is that Aftermath has a ton of jank for what its actually considered by as a byproduct it can triple dip certain damage buffs lol

[karmic chasm]

I completely agree. First and only, because Jaren will temporarily replace him bc we will need Maru, Helhest, and Jaren. Can’t be running two arc characters.

[calm vortex]

Jaren can kind of just be both your DPS and your Runner and he even has access to every single element

on both weapon slots

[gritty rune]

But can he clear adds as fast as Ning

[calm vortex]

Faster and from range

[gritty rune]

18 second CD with only 6 bullets tho

[calm vortex]

Short cooldowns, refunds ability energy for unspent bullets, refreshes its cooldown on Stag Buff like Wolf's abilities, can be force proc'd with super, Movement skill is a 40% speed buff with 2 charges on a 10 second CD

[mental dagger]

depending on strike we might see smn icl

[calm vortex]

His Super also hits like a truck cause on top of the usual buffs it also benefits from precision multipliers

[gritty rune]

S1 doesn’t refresh CD unless you get T6 tho

[mental dagger]

because while he might be like
2nd best on par with umeko/depending on strike wolf
the divide between ning and 2nd best for skips is nuts

[summer ledge]

I'm guessing the dodge ability counts as a movement ability?

[calm vortex]

Another detail for the runner role is also that Dodge travels farther and faster than Ning's movement ability and has less endlag

He also has access to a shotgun with auto loading through dodge which will be great at taking down priority elites for mechanics before your team arrives/spawns

[gritty rune]

Tbh I liked his kit in the datamines better than his actual kit. You just get +50% ability charge as long as you don’t lose too much HP

We’ll have to see in practice how fast he can build stacks

[calm vortex]

in add dense situations thats not gonna be an issue, its definitely not like a T0 Helhest where it can take ages to build her resource

[gritty rune]

It takes like 25 shots + an ability use to get it so it’ll depend on how fast you can shoot

And only precision hits count, which his gun helps with but not completely so it might be a bit awkward for mobile players

[stark forge]

well aim assist exists

[calm vortex]

You get 1 for precision damage, 1 for dealing damage with your signatures/defeats, and every 3 precision shots you'll gain an additional 2 stacks

[twilit thistle]

As an Umeko, I can count the number of useful players that use Umeko and are active. (In na)

1. Zombie.
   That was rough, I hope it covered everyone. (One of the rarest t6 chars to see fully built. Even rarer to find a player who has skill.)

[karmic chasm]

I mean hey, I’ll probably still use Ning in GMs, just like I use Rossi when he’s available. GMs are my favorite in game activity bc they feel like calamity with modifiers, but without the stress

[calm vortex]

Also not just Aim assist for mobile but Jaren has buffs that legit just auto aim at crit spots for you regardless of where your actually looking, as long as the enemy is in range and on screen it'll hit

[gritty rune]

Yeah, like 25 or so shots basically to get the 48 stacks

[twilit thistle]

@neat valley ^

[calm vortex]

as an extra bonus Jaren's abilities and Super deal precision damage and benefit from precision multipliers

[karmic chasm]

As soon as I get Jaren he will be my #1 (next Rossi, my number #1 #1)

[leaden epoch]

Who at Netease do I need to pay to make two small changes to Calamity Ops: Remove unstuck entirely. Only a teammate can rez you, downed teammates can be pulled forward. Feels like every time I look at Calamity Ops videos for tips on how to do better it's all exploits 😕

[gritty rune]

What I wonder is if you’ll get into a situation in CO where your team is just killing stuff too fast for jaren to build stacks properly

Especially with Maru or Ning where they just mow down entire add groups in one shot

[calm vortex]

I mean they'd have to reach the scene before Jaren who has a near permanent 40% speed buff and a long distance movement skill

[drowsy cypress]

i guess 6 man challenge is Trial if Osiris

[calm vortex]

On top of auto tracking long range signature

[gritty rune]

Most strikes that’s not the vex one aren’t that tight though. Like fulminator is just room after room

[karmic chasm]

Or how about we just make points individual placement, and only overseer is a leaderboard

[calm vortex]

Though for the most part if your just there to fill the Runner role you wont have to worry about your stacks much

[gritty rune]

Ngl I don’t think I’d ever wanna bother with runner, it’s just not fun

[leaden epoch]

That would be good as well, but I still would like to see the possibility for common exploits removed.

[gritty rune]

NetEase clearly doesn’t want runners to be a thing either so I’d expect more changes in the future to try get rid of it

Just make unstuck send you back to last checkpoint. If you messed up the run it’s a reset anyways

[karmic chasm]

Messed up the first room so bad the other day 💀

[stark forge]

simply remove unstuck button when playing cal ops should be enough

[leaden epoch]

People are abusing dying and waiting to advance to a new section to rez. Making other fireteam members rez you helps to mitigate that.

[stark forge]

well that is valid tho

[karmic chasm]

Absolutely, also makes it so you HAVE to go back for dead teammates, which slows it down even more

[leaden epoch]

Im fine with even pulling the ghost forward like it does now. But then they just need to sit there until someone picks them up. Like that sparrow segment in that one strike would be rough to try and go back to get someone, they would just restart at that point.

[gritty rune]

Tbh I just hate CO as a whole. It’s annoying unless you’re into speedrunning, it actively makes you not want to play with anyone that’s not meta characters 72k+, it restricts kit design and it’s gonna cause a ton of powercreep

[karmic chasm]

I mean I agree, but we have to do it to an extent

[gritty rune]

Yeah cos leaves

[leaden epoch]

I mean this is closer to a hero shooter than something like D2. Restricted kit design is always going to be a thing.

[gritty rune]

CO restricts kit design to being able to move fast and front loaded damage

[eternal orbit]

Are there clans or similar on this game?

[leaden epoch]

Yes there are "packs"

[twilit owl]

Packs yeah

[gritty rune]

Like, Estella is just automatically not good at it since her kit is none of that

[eternal orbit]

Oh okay I think I’m too low of a level how do I join them?

[karmic chasm]

Packs, feel free to join mine. Divine_Order (I’m not the leader just active)

[karmic chasm]

It’s for grown kids who have unmedicated ADHD

[gritty rune]

The moment barrage/soread goes away, Maru will probably get kicked from the CO meta too

[twilit thistle]

F. The bot ate my message. I made some suggestions for fair play, that increased difficulty and prevented a majority of these issues form occurring with calamity.

One of them was to automatically end the run if a single player died.

[gritty rune]

Characters like jolder or tan will just never be good at endgame cos they aren’t made for speedrunning

[eternal orbit]

Like me

[gritty rune]

And I’ve seen this before in Honkai 3rd, ranked PvE just causes a ton of powercreep because every new character needs to replace someone else

[karmic chasm]

Nah bc she’s still better at void spread than Ikora

[eternal orbit]

How do I join?

[gritty rune]

Yeah, hence barrage/spread

Heck, might not even be even spread cos wolf might be better than her in CO at spread lol

[karmic chasm]

Ah gotcha

[karmic chasm]

Once you unlock packs, just look us up

[eternal orbit]

Okay

[raw glade]

@wheat ferry is this you

If so, don’t you dare kick me out of unchanged lol

[indigo solar]

Oh god no, that completely ruins the experience for 95% of the playerbase that isn't playing with a premade team

[karmic chasm]

Me when the random t6 Helhest dies through 3 healing drones (also 6% damage)

[leaden epoch]

A small price to make people make friends 🙂 Seriously though, agree that would be too harsh for matchmade teams.

[placid loom]

Anyone know how I can get a role to post to #1391468035981836420

[vocal hawk]

Went to go change my leaderboard and it decided I'm in California?
Wrong state border, game.

[rustic moat]

Using a VPN?

[vocal hawk]

Nope. I just moved.

Used to live on the Washington side of WA/OR border but now I'm in Oregon.

[rustic moat]

at least it got the west coast part correct?

lets be honest, washington and oregon is essentially California. Just Colder California, and Almost Canada California

[karmic chasm]

He’s got a point

[compact crescent]

CalOps public lobby after they see me lock in Ikora be like:

[pulsar coral]

What character do I put this on regardless of nature

You dollops

[stark forge]

ikora

[pulsar coral]

Hmmm

[summer ledge]

Does Estela have some sort of access to kit healing or is it entirely from external sources? Never got her into playing her so I have no clue how she works.

Might be decent on her if she does not have anything built-in? Don't have much care for meta culture so I find fun/ny things and just play with those.

Or do people usually use that one for weapon hits giving stacks of damage resistance?

[raw glade]

One of her talents gives heals

[thorny frost]

Estela has a good amount of healing. Her base form gives her heals when her summons attack. Her T1 heals her when she attacks someone who is infected by misfortune (and her summons heal them selves when attacking someone with misfortune).

[exotic sinew]

After thinking about it I feel like the next unit is arc with an auto rifle that’ll be an arc exotic

[twilit thistle]

I also suggested last stg expanse difficulty, and GM level enemies. leveling weapon mastery down to 17, t6 down to t5, disable cats and mods, and others. That is a good suggestion, disable premade teams.

The idea is to make it harder in general

[summer ledge]

Give me Salad Man or give me Felwinter. Final offer.

Or give me Salad Man and Felwinter and just make Salad Man a 4 star.

[true mauve]

My second 10draw

[exotic sinew]

Since there’s only one exotic auto rifle and it’s solar, we have a void mythic, makes sense for the next auto rifle to be an exotic arc to fill in the gap but we will see

[karmic chasm]

Rossi ready to launch

[true mauve]

Wrong SS sorry @karmic chasm

[karmic chasm]

Yoooooo that might just be the best possible perm pull

Wait why does it say new on Rossi

[summer ledge]

Save clusters for Jaren or max Helhest mastery and abilities? I have 18 total so it would be exactly enough to max a new character.

[elder pasture]

any furries around these parts?

[true mauve]

Now it is, Rossi T1 lets goooo

New account vro

[devout void]

Yea Netease will probably love T6 to T5

[karmic chasm]

Oh nice!

[twilit thistle]

For MythicNexus, octava and threats, this wouldn’t even make a difference. These players could likely beat doom on ultra nightmare. I do understand there would need to be levels to it tho for lower ranked players

[stark forge]

helhest first

[thorny frost]

I think this would be better as a new mode not changing CalOps into. From a development standpoint there will need to be a game mode that encourages T6/ maxing units. Calamity Ops is currently the only one as it isn’t really needed else where unless chasing leaderboards, and even then Expanse gets rid of some of that too.

[cyan tide]

It's very possible Helhest won't be used next act since it will be void/solar with spread/impact shinkas. I'd use the clusters on Jaren, or wait a bit to see if Helhest is viable next cycle

[lucid schooner]

Anyone know where I can sign up for the content creator program

[thorny frost]

I wonder what team comps people will end up using next. I feel Hel will still be used if Jaren can function as a runner as well for CalOps.

[cyan tide]

Wolf stonks might go up since he's solar and spread

[devout void]

not in the list i failed my life

The game will never be hard, one cycle it was hard to clean Expanse day one, reddit complain, they hotfix nerf it

[pulsar coral]

What nature should I change this to

[twilit thistle]

The original list that the bot ate was better. Calamity ops has many ranks. Each would implement another change, making it harder. The idea with t5 is that a lot of t6 is just more damage, it’s just a concept. The idea is inspired by what threats said it needed one day

[indigo solar]

Next exotic AR is likely SUROS Regime, which I could see being either Arc or Solar tbh

[devout void]

And yea it's just a mobile game we cant expect something very hard i guess

The game was a bit hard when we were trying to do Expanse low ligh thats all, now everything is a joke

[indigo solar]

Nah week ones are still a trip, it's just general content that's toned down

[vocal hawk]

Regime feels like an arc weapon

It's gimmick is ROF shenanigans

That feels pretty arc-y

[exotic sinew]

Interesting… my hunch may be correct

[devout void]

The game is hard for a lot of player, i didnt know you can have zone 6 in calam'

[exotic sinew]

Considering I think the next character is going to be an Arc Defense, the first defense unit, a healing exotic AR would work

[exotic sinew]

Zone 1 so sweaty rn. 424k promo zone. I’m happy I’m in Zone 3

[devout void]

When maru release it was probably the most sweat zone 1, now the good player are overseer but yea

Its fine to do 425k with a team, its the bare minimum score if you follow the strat

[thorny frost]

I can get behind the concept of having a true challenge mode. I can’t really say much then without seeing what the Bot ate. And while I didn’t get into eclipse (didn’t have a sold group to learn it with), that sounded like a fun and challenging mode which we do need.

[granite tundra]

How do you see which zone you are in?

[cyan tide]

Eclipse wasn't super difficult, it just required communication in a game where no one talks

[exotic sinew]

Should be top left when looking at the calamity screen

Or when you click the calamity icon that shows your rank

[thorny frost]

Right above the rank you are in.

[karmic chasm]

Yea but if we can just use Jaren and Maru I can’t see Wolf being better

[cyan tide]

It'll depend on how fast Jaren is

[karmic chasm]

I mean, two dashes, 3 if you pop super

I suppose a Wold, Helhest, Ning team could work? But I can see a lot of technical issues

[twilit thistle]

Threats suggested it be even harder. Threats was a little angry, and suggested fair play be implemented. Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN] would be the one who could truly make a list, I don’t know every single potential advantage and disadvantage a char can have. My hope is that it would make it more rewarding for the top players, and genuinely showcase the skill they have. I have had the honor of running Morgrans with threats, and I can without a shadow of a doubt say threats is on another level.

[granite tundra]

Awesome thanks

[eternal orbit]

This game is pretty fun XD it reminds me of warframe

[karmic chasm]

Less complicated and much smaller, but yea

[eternal orbit]

Yes it’s way more simple

[devout void]

Yea its not really rewarding now being overseer again and again

Need more things

[wheat ferry]

No promises 😂

[indigo solar]

Honestly if I were to change it I would just make calamity not the only option. Have calamity, the tower defense mode, and a boss rush mode, each with separate leaderboards and ranks but a shared max loot

[thorny frost]

Thinking also on the previous post also, if it was also just for the higher tiers (specially master2 to see who should be overseer) I could definitely see it enhancing it for the hardcore players. The players who are the top would still be at the top, but it would be a proper show case of skill. While the low ranks could be advance through faster/easier by getting the T6, still encouraging spending. I am not at the skill level of the top players, so i will never be thinking of making overseer, but I can see the want/need to keep things engaging for them.

[gray pilot]

Hey so like, realistically, what of substance is there to do when you run out of pinnacle energy aside from just turning the game off?

[stark forge]

farm more exotic guns

[hoary agate]

Exotic artifact farm, exotic weapon farm, double mythic weapon farm, triumphs/seals, leaderboard stuff.

[gray pilot]

Yeah but with the percentage chance so comparatively low, is it even worth it? I’ve tried farming for exotic artifacts without the use of pinnacle energy and it’s agonizingly slow.

[thorny frost]

I am really hoping tower defense turns out well. Really need more engaging game modes like you said.

[hoary agate]

I mean that’s a judgement call that I can’t make for you. It exists after pinnacle energy though.

[stark forge]

higher acclaim rank gives drop rate boost to ease the pain

[gray pilot]

I know they talked about doing away with the pinnacle energy system sometime early next year. Here’s hoping they come up with something a lot less restrictive, because I really enjoy the moment to moment gameplay but can’t justify the time sink without the appropriate rewards.

[thorny frost]

They didn’t say they were necessarily getting rid of it persay, just found a solution they think would work for the player base. It could be removal, but it also could be something along the lines of “playing game modes refunds pinnacle energy by X amount”. They said they still want it to be rewarding to players of all time investments, so I would still expect a front loaded system.

[dusty spire]

Team Titan

[past flame]

Here we go

Time to prep for jaren

[gray pilot]

It’s such a shame that they’re beholden to mobile gacha game design because the actual product itself is so genuinely fun to play. Hopefully, as things progress, they’ll course correct in order to resemble something more structurally accommodating for both mobile and PC players.

[summer ledge]

Probably will just do Jaren then since I stopped having fun with Helhest after the first two weeks of her being everywhere.

Didn't feel all that rewarding or difficult to T6 her, either, since I got all 7 pulls in less than 100 draws. Tan felt like a climb to T6 since I only just got it a couple weeks ago after he was out since launch, instead of in less than a day.

[thorny frost]

Only 100 draws O.O daaang congrats tho for that.

[novel sable]

how far out is jaren 🤔

[summer ledge]

Less than two days now.

[raw glade]

I also maintain that Expanse should reset every single week. There's no reason for it to be bi-weekly. And on top of that, three elements per week. The parameters shouldn't be beholden to the current banner.

[thorny frost]

Monetization would have to change drastically, which I don’t see happening after launch. Most content tho isn’t really regulated by the Gacha, F2P can get every unit (except if really unlucky) and besides Calamity, and SG most game modes can be cleared without getting to many copies of a unit.

[dusty spire]

So who’s planning to T6 cowboy?

[gray pilot]

I definitely think the monetization needs to change if for no other reason than it’s too greedy but, you’re right, that’s very unlikely given NetEase’s track record. At the very least, they could ease up on restrictions to things like playtime and upgrade materials so that farming isn’t as big of a slog. I can only speak for myself here, but I know I’m far more likely to spend money on the game if I’m actively invested in it and this current structure is kinda killing that investment.

[dusty spire]

Waiting on Morgan hunt again T_T

[raw glade]

Morgran is always fantastic for those cores

[thorny frost]

We will have to wait to see about changes to the system come season 4. Hopefully they find a good balance for farming. The pinnacle system was designed for rewarding players quickly (which is mobile gamers typically), no matter what the game will require a grind. F2P games are more likely to lose players if they don’t keep them coming back daily.

[naive ingot]

Nope

[placid loom]

any @unkempt depot able to give me a role for #1391468035981836420

[civic meadow]

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[indigo solar]

Nuh uh, vote Insomnia, best clan trust
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[civic meadow]

Insomnia is a great clan forsure! But Archetype is above them for a reason 😉 😗

[indigo solar]

Streamers:(

[civic meadow]

I didn't stream or share anything on socials. We just an established strong clan like yours 😉

[stark forge]

hmm reach top 3 to get only 10 fruit and sheaf

[raw glade]

The event will also give exotic cores.

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar
I forgot to mention, if you are running this ^ is also the exact center of the non ads ring. I tried for 30 mins to get it on mobile, and headshot that knight, I failed. You can slide, and no scope. I’m very good on mouse and keyboard but not mobile. It’s the tip of the ^ (allows you to shoot and keep moving 👀)

[gray pilot]

I guess that’s kinda the thing; grinding is something I’m totally fine with, I just want to be able to grind on my own terms. The artificial limitation in something like pinnacle energy actively helps kill that endgame flow and reduces the game to, like you said, quick dailies for people who aren’t as invested in the mechanical minutiae. I’ve no doubt that’s all by design, but I also think it’s a poor decision from a money making standpoint since it removes momentum from the play experience. If people aren’t playing, then they probably aren’t willing to spend either.

[pulsar coral]

I’m shooting for T3, T4 and T5 are pretty underwhelming. I’m not spending the $$$$ for T6

T1 buffs his signature ability, T2 buffs survival ability with his movement ability and T3 boost his ultimate by 20%

[raw glade]

Where are these shown?

[pulsar coral]

Youtube, a lot of YouTubers have early access and they show everything on a max build

[indigo solar]

Yeah I knew that, but snipers can still miss I swear. Also it's really hard to headshot enemies from behind on mobile bc the body magnetism is so strong it can pull what would have been a headshot into the body

[pulsar coral]

They did the same with Maru on Monday/ Tuesday when character is released on Thursday

[civic meadow]

top tier rewards right? lmfao

[stark forge]

yeah and only top 3 get the rewards

[summer ledge]

Probably just going to stop at T2 or maybe T3, unless I somehow get extremely lucky like with Helhest.

[pulsar coral]

100 draws for T6 is insane 🤯

[devout horizon]

I thought I saw someone say t2 and t3 are mid compared to 1 and 4

5 and 6 idk about

[pulsar coral]

t5 is that his blind will last 1 extra second lol

[indigo solar]

6 > 4 > 1 > 3 > 2 > 5

[devout horizon]

So that’s how counting is done

[visual rain]

i still cant get past 5 :(

btw do we get to keep these fancy character roles forever or just for the event

[violet sonnet]

Funny Attal HC aqquired

[indigo solar]

I was just thinking about that earlier, we don't have explicit info either way but given the similarity between Attal and the mod role I expect them to be temporary

[visual rain]

noooo

[devout horizon]

Cody says the community managers took note of the community’s liking towards the roles, so we might get stand ins

[vocal hawk]

The roles are just for the event but the CMs kno-yeah what dumby said

[indigo solar]

Rebate is a dead perk, on both hand cannon users it's irrelevant but it's especially bad when paired with searing mark, where the goal is to empty the mag

[visual rain]

every other server has gradient roles locked behind boosting or being a mod or whatever so i hope these stay

[vocal hawk]

I'm personally pushing to keep character roles
People have been really enjoying it

[indigo solar]

Agreed

[twilit thistle]

There is NO magnetism when you do that. It’s best used on rlly big bosses in chaos. I haven’t tested the grouping, but I recall it being accurate on a single shot. When I was doing chaos on weapons master routinely, I just kept hitting the shots perfectly. It was Borealis, and I rarely used my primary or ads.

[violet sonnet]

"Rebate is a dead Perk", literally free Arc Missile Refreshes

[vocal hawk]

Some probably need to be changed, like Attal

[visual rain]

i know shes french but that doesnt mean we gotta hate on her

[devout horizon]

Actually I should try this game again

[violet sonnet]

Also why would you wanna empty the Mag on Searing this isnt Ensuring

Cause Refill means more Rounds to shoot at 5x Searing

[indigo solar]

My understanding was that it was a limited amount of shots, not that it was based on the current mag, that's my bad

[violet sonnet]

Rebate does the same Thing as Crimson on Attal which is letting you have infinite Arc Missiles without needing to have a full Bar which is the fun Part

Is it better then Embolden/Anni, idk but its more Fun

[rustic moat]

Did new artifacts for Jaren get released or anything?

[tacit gazelle]

is this consistent for you? I swear Crimson only refills my missiles half the time. not sure if skill issue and I'm missing precision final blows

[violet sonnet]

Crimson is weird cause you got 7 Missiles on a 21 Mag, it is 10x more consistent on HCs with Rebate

[indigo solar]

Because the +300% only procs on the final round, which with a 10-round mag (base fort mag) is an average of +75% per shot, while firing without +300% is strictly less than 75% per shot

[violet sonnet]

or well you are less likely to run out of arc missiles before the refresh kicks in

[raw glade]

Finally watching the Youtube videos for Jaren....and god damn. This dude is going to be the new Ning Fei

[indigo solar]

Some content creators have shared what they are in the early access build, but note that it's still subject to change. Maru's early access was incomplete, for example

[raw glade]

Ward's T4 is enormous.

[raw glade]

How is T4 underwhelming? A further 30% damage boost on his weapon mastery is enormous. It's like Jolder's extra stacks of retribution.

[violet sonnet]

i dont think thats gona matter much for red/yellow bars for the content i play attal in, red bars will pretty much get onetapped due to searing stacks and yellows get arc missiled into oblivion

[raw glade]

And damn, this T6 is insanely strong. Whales are going to be ridiculous.

A T6 Jaren is going to destroy anything under T4 like it's an entirely different hero lol

[violet sonnet]

I still got Empty Fort with both other Perks in 2nd Column if i wanna use it for Jaren so im good

[candid tusk]

Helhest is no different. T5 and t6 helhest is insanely strong compared to anything under that. Every helhest talent is insane

[raw glade]

using Jaren without Last Word should be a crime

[violet sonnet]

I am not gona buy Weapon Tokens ty very much

[raw glade]

The thing is, Helhest still gives ammo and has utility below T6. Helhest doesn't really need to do insane damage to support a team in high end calamity Ops.

Jaren is a pure DPS unit, no utlity.

[candid tusk]

This is the most wrong information I've ever seen. Helhest is the main dps in calamity overseer. Without t5 she can't even be played due to salvo stacks.

[devout horizon]

lol?

She can still be played as a utility character in cal ops

[candid tusk]

What's your overseer rank?

[devout horizon]

Why do I need to be in overseer

I’m just saying she has uses outside of pure damage. She keeps the team topped up with ammo and with nice buffs

[candid tusk]

Because you have no idea how calamity ops works if you aren't a high ranked overseer player

[devout horizon]

That’s a very elitist thing to say

[pulsar coral]

Honestly, it’s what I told myself to not spend extra money if needed lol

[candid tusk]

Helhest is quite literally the main dps of the run. You're making comments about things you don't even remotely grasp

[fringe valve]

Dude chill it ain't that deep

[dusty spire]

You got big numbers to compete against get those mats ready and push new banner to the test lol

[violet sonnet]

Only if the Person actually knows how to play him /s

[devout horizon]

T0 and t1 Helhest work just fine tbh. I’d prefer t1 more since it’s a little more efficient, but I can settle for strictly damage drones. I can keep myself alive with the damage boost.

[stark forge]

but like t0 kinda choke the run tbh, dmg output wont be able to compete t6

[devout horizon]

Doesn’t mean she’s bad, though

[candid tusk]

This is so inaccurate it's wild. If being incapable of getting promoted is your goal then yes anything works...

If you don't have t5 salvo stacks. You are horrendously bad in calamity ops as the main dps which is her main role

[vapid ibex]

I remember comparing my damage to another helhest and I was like bro why are you doing 11M less damage than me in 10 seconds, they were t1 and I was t6 🤣😭😭

[hoary agate]

Are you guys even talking about the same thing? High end calamity ops could mean expert, masters, or overseer, depending on who you're talking to, because it's a vague term.

[candid tusk]

I said overseer

[hoary agate]

And did he?

[stark forge]

even master t0 helhest will choke a lot

[fringe valve]

I have a T1 helhest and have been using her for calamity and I'm chilling in master 1, she's great at T1

[devout horizon]

Would like to point out overseer is a small % of the game

[candid tusk]

Getting to master 1 is mega easy because of auto promoting scores. It's master 2 that becomes potentially impossible to promote without a t5 or t6 helhest

[devout horizon]

Me when master 1 is usually enough

[hoary agate]

So you guys are basically talking about different things.

[raw glade]

Yeah man, but overseer is like .001% of the population. That'll never be a standard to measure things.

[flint aurora]

If everyone played Ikora, we wouldn’t have a ranking problem.

[violet sonnet]

Me the humble T6 Helhest who carrys People to Master 1 each Cycle cause i cba to waste my Time on Calamity

[devout horizon]

You’re doing god’s work

[vocal hawk]

Traveler's blessed

[candid tusk]

Literally anyone can be carried to master 1 on any character so that's an irrelevant measurement of usefulness. Master 2 is where performance matters

[fringe valve]

W

[hoary agate]

Bringing up Overseer specific points to a conversation that wasn't previously talking about overseer isn't a great way to converse with the person that wasn't talking about overseer.

[vapid ibex]

I learned that when I was #7 in overseer leaderboard and couldn’t find anybody even in overseer looking for a high score run lol

[raw glade]

Master is extremely performance heavy. Which is why you just said anyone can be "carried."

If it requires a carry by a whale, it's performance based.

[hoary agate]

Because they've just stated their target is Master 1, so it's not a fruitful conversation.

[thorny frost]

In his defense, Dumby responded to the comment of him mentioning overseer

[raw glade]

Three people that aren't whales/t6/skilled have to do extremely well to hit master.

[hoary agate]

He mentioned he didn't need to be Overseer though, because he was just talking about "high end calamity ops", which we now know he's saying is Master I.

[devout horizon]

I can’t tell if you’re trying to flex or trying to agree that it’s an arbitrary thing

[rain epoch]

Guys does both of the battlepass token currency get carried over to the next battlepass?

[raw glade]

Master is definitely the most obtainable high rank for the regular skilled player who can't afford to T6 everybody. A good challenge to obtain with randoms.

[devout horizon]

Oh I just think master 1 is what most people strive for. The average player does not think “yeah let’s go for overseer”

[fringe valve]

No only the egg looking ones carry over

[rain epoch]

Okay thanks. I need to spend the shard looking one then

[vapid ibex]

Nah I’ve been top 10 in most calamity leaderboards no need to flex it

[candid tusk]

Maybe but I'm confident a t0 ning maru and helhest can promo to master 1 if the players are decent because the score isn't that hard to hit. It's very forgiving

[fringe valve]

That's what I think, especially when the rewards aren't even that much better

[lapis meadow]

Where are the players at?

[thorny frost]

But it is also commenting how Jaren would need to be T6 while Helhest didn’t. If we are talking need for T6, I can see why overseer was the thought process too. Jaren probably won’t “need” T6 to get to master 1 like Helhest wouldn’t this season if pairing with good enough players.

[raw glade]

Nah man, that's just not true. I think you're out of touch with the lower ranks.

Expert I and II is reserved for the t0 characters from what I've seen

[candid tusk]

Disagree. That score is so low. It's like 60k lower than the current top score. It literally just needs a 2.0 boss kill which ning can deliver

[devout horizon]

Impressive. Good job on that, though.

[raw glade]

2.0 is insanely hard. You're on something man.

[stark forge]

hmm fulminator is a smol map getting 1.8x boss kill is enough to promote

[candid tusk]

It's definitely not. Maru doesn't need talents at all. And helhest can just kill shinkas. And ning runs. I'm highly confident it would be very easy

[violet sonnet]

My Man i feel like your severly overestimating the Skill off some People

[candid tusk]

And yeah 1.8 would promo to master 1 as well. I said that decent players could do it. Not all players. You don't need talents to hit master 1

[violet sonnet]

As someone who does Expert 2 to Master Promo each Cycle some of these People ive seen would never get to Master without a Carry

[devout horizon]

T0 Ning then

[raw glade]

It's not even a skill thing. It's a math thing. The damage for 2.0x requires maxed out talents. I've grinded calamity up to Master and spent so much time in Expert. 1.8x is the upper end of what you'll see before Master II.

[torn otter]

It does?🥹

[stark forge]

from master 1 and up u need to invest heavier on talent, this cycle ppl push promotion score to over 400k

[devout horizon]

Actually how useful is untalented Ning in general?

[thorny frost]

He is probably talking about if players who knew what they were doing and in a team work together. Which is completely different then matchmaking, matchmaking tho it never would be that easy tho.

[stark forge]

matchmaking is like gamble lmao

[gusty fossil]

Elo lumpy

[raw glade]

I hit Masters yesterday in randos, but there was nothing we could have done differently other than unstuck cheese or something. Everything melted almost immediately, and it was a solid 1.8x clear.

[fringe valve]

Yes the tokens you use to buy exotic weapons carry over

[thorny frost]

He is referencing Ning, so it would be with unsticking and dieing as a reference point.

[candid tusk]

Not unstucking is a massive loss of time in more than one area. And forcefully dying

[violet sonnet]

Anyways ya all have Fun discussing C-Ops im going back to Bedge cause i got a Patch to wake up to

[raw glade]

Well I don't consider unstucking as valid gameplay anyhow. Majority of people aren't on comms, so we have to go by the standard.

[stark forge]

nice u get to sleep for 2 days

[devout horizon]

That’s a whole other can of worms. Like, yeah, cal ops should remove unstuck altogether, but people really don’t like that discussion

[indigo solar]

Or you could reserve your opinion until he actually comes out, there's plenty of possibility for cheese with a searing mark gun + super, octant + welling light, chappy etc. Wait to see how exotics interact with his kit before saying one is meta

[violet sonnet]

nah not Rising Patch, WoW gets Housing today and i gotta be awake early to get my good Plot (prob gona play Rising while i wait for Servers to come back up)

[twilit thistle]

@true mauve 😭

[true mauve]

Rossi is Maru bane in PvP!!!!!

[raw glade]

I'm just speaking from a lore perspective homie.

[karmic chasm]

Mods are a WIP but this shotgun is gonna be so fun on Jaren! (And you might even see my Gwynn back out there 🙌 )

[violet sonnet]

Maybe i do free Calamity Carrys after i wake up idk

[true mauve]

Bro I was 1v2 them maru and nova clean me up every time. Wth where you guys

[twilit thistle]

😭 WHERE WAS I?!??

[indigo solar]

Real Jarens try to run ahead solo and die 💯

[raw glade]

the Ning special

[true mauve]

Solo play dont mean crap when I am getting mopped in a 1v3 constantly...

[stark forge]

wao good ning fei teams

[raw glade]

After analyzing his kit, it's pretty clear to me that dolphins would want to aim for the T4. That's a good stopping point.

A T6 Jaren will put you into overseer territory

[indigo solar]

I think this is the second closest I've come to 2k with randoms

[indigo solar]

#💭│main-chat message

[indigo solar]

This is also my recommended Star Wars viewing order trust

[vocal hawk]

What's Jaren's T1
I haven't been able to watch videos due to The Move

[twilit thistle]

I said run. When I was chased by nova, who was not on the original team of 3 we fought against.

[raw glade]

T1 is great for light spenders, per usual

[true mauve]

Every time I died it showed you us all on a diff map 😭 both you kept dippin on me lol

[granite tundra]

Yep my tier 3 promotion minimum is 410k

[raw glade]

I'd be so happy to get to the T4.

[thorny frost]

Taniks coming in with all the data

[indigo solar]

T7 lets him use his Blazing Shot as a grapple if there are no combatants in sight

[true mauve]

T6 or bust

[indigo solar]

Ew nova, I kept matching against them in iron bar

[stark forge]

sometimes i wish we didnt merge servers, too many sweats in my cal ops zone now 💀

[indigo solar]

Definitely a pc player

[raw glade]

The T6 is pretty insane. Just a ton more damage added on top. Most useful for boss burns

[vocal hawk]

I heard this from a very reputable source, it's true

-# disclaimer: this is not true

[true mauve]

Im T0 Jaren and done. Gonna wait for next goodie

[vocal hawk]

T6 is a pretty wild spike

[indigo solar]

I mean can you prove that that isn't what his T7 does

[raw glade]

Yeah, and it'll show up on melting any boss in the game where you can get max stacks.

[vocal hawk]

I plead the fifth

[raw glade]

The T4 damage spike is the most useful all-around spike.

[vocal hawk]

I'm unable to spend much this month so I'm not too bummed that T1 isn't like...an extra ability charge

[karmic chasm]

T1, T4, and of course T6 are his stopping points imo

[true mauve]

Seriously though, Rossi weapon mastery + Mahama eats Maru

[vocal hawk]

T5 is like
what

why is that there

[true mauve]

T2 and T6 is PvP, self heals

[stark forge]

pay to blind longer hmm

[indigo solar]

Talents are disabled or greatly reduced in PvP

[karmic chasm]

True, I’d be willing to t2

[true mauve]

Shifty Gates allows them, self heals are always good ask estella. T0 is unplayable

[stark forge]

not disabled in sg so...

[vocal hawk]

T2 being a heal is somewhat enticing but also artifacts

[thorny frost]

Zone 1 popping XD I am not even attempting to promote, I doubt if I can get into unchanged zone with just matchmaking this time too lol

[true mauve]

Dmg bonus on T6 is meh, its the reload and full charge ability @indigo solar

[karmic chasm]

Anyone wanna get out of expert 1 hell with me? Or at least ensure we stay in promo?

[twilit thistle]

Nova is in Kansas, just like valid. I am in Kansas. This means if they are in a match with me, I will be targeted heavily. They are willing to die as long as I go down. I ran where there were two teams of bots, because we were falling behind. You can’t win every fight. The only players I know who can fight another team and also win, from the start, is Jordan and bourdee. They will spawnkill you.

[indigo solar]

All they need to do is remove that little addendum to make it great, but I guess they're tired of everyone running conversion on everyone

[karmic chasm]

Conversion is just too good bro

And due to overshield being important for him… could be crazy

[vocal hawk]

And therein is why it doesn't allow overflow

[pulsar coral]

I’ve been thinking, next character will be arc rapid fire correct? Well I’m speculating that it be a character with arc rapid fire pulse rifle since there is none in the game. Then hopefully the heavy won’t be another rapid fire lol

[novel sable]

wait what i thought this came out in 2 days 😭

[stark forge]

kabr ?

[misty marsh]

[candid tusk]

The power weapon will always align to the cycle

[pulsar coral]

Exactly, Rapid Arc.

[vocal hawk]

They might use a different primary

[true mauve]

Ataturk always makes me mad, all I needed was 1 bro with me. Rossi weapon mastery+Mahama=dead Maru. They finally fixed his lvl 4 weapon mastery

[past flame]

W

[karmic chasm]

Preeeeecisely

[misty marsh]

Imagine if they add traces

[vocal hawk]

god if they changed kabr from scout/machine gun so that the arc/rapid mythic can have that combo i will be irritated

[pulsar coral]

That would be cool

[pulsar coral]

What else is there from D2?

[vocal hawk]

This is a very big question

[pulsar coral]

I don’t see a arc exotic submachine gun coming anytime soon but who knows

[true mauve]

Rossi wpn mastery being fixed to allow Xbow to work now has him way viable for PvP imo

[misty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-gibberish-random-words-nonsense-hank-hill-gif-21327086

[pulsar coral]

😂

[vocal hawk]

Kabr used scout rifles in the alpha and it was great

[trail tinsel]

Maybe he was too strong, just hiding far away behind his shield lol

[misty marsh]

U can still do that w the furries pulse

[trail tinsel]

Gotta be slightly closer to prevent damage falloff. And Kabr would help trivialize pierce shinkas.

[vocal hawk]

Yeah I'm going to blame the Insomnia six-stack Iron Bar group for this change now, thanks for the inspiration @indigo solar

[true mauve]

Heir Apparent makes em both negligible 😭

[indigo solar]

Tee hee

[candid tusk]

Furies is better for sure

[true mauve]

Not in PvP, espec after the buff. Gallows is wicked strong also

[candid tusk]

Ah sorry I thought you meant pve

[misty marsh]

Not every exotic is made for pvp

[true mauve]

Majority are since we have so few

[misty marsh]

They'll expand.... eventually

[raven orchid]

Does anyone find the events kinda boring?

[true mauve]

No heman

[misty marsh]

Imagine if they added stasis weapons

[indigo solar]

You mean like riskrunner, the arc exotic submachine gun we already have?

[indigo solar]

For the unacquainted

[indigo solar]

@trail tinsel

[misty marsh]

What's the roll on it

[twilit thistle]

I’m kinda used to it. It’s not a ning so they throw. “It’s just bc he’s #1” so they throw. (Someone actually said that)

[indigo solar]

Idk man this is from over a year ago and it didn't even have the same perk pool

[indigo solar]

Ataturk low key isn't very good

[misty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/excuses-files-cabinet-gif-12019483

[indigo solar]

Zero situational awareness, slightly better than average aim

[pulsar hare]

Any one need prizepicks fix plays?

30bucks to cash out 2k above

[devout horizon]

71.4k Jolder 🔥

[pulsar coral]

Yes, why would they make another one. That’s my point. It seems I’m often misunderstood in here.

[karmic chasm]

Anyone wanna carry my Maru to expert 2

[karmic chasm]

I’ve got one

[supple nymph]

What’s the best weapon setup combo for Jaren?

[stark forge]

old prefect eternal

[twilit thistle]

😏 so what was this I heard about you needing to play shifting gates? I did NOT lose numerous matches, getting 3rd place, and in doing so having an unchanged score. Even if I did this would NOT have an impact on my lobbies, and I don’t know how the matchmaking system works. I was NOT in professor lobbies.

[devout horizon]

Scratch that. 71.8k

[gloomy bluff]

Good time to bring back the zhalo supercell

[neat valley]

the goat umeko, we carry umeko and her glory

[raw glade]

Trolling or serious?

[indigo solar]

D:

[indigo solar]

Will depend on how his kit interacts with stuff, but fort is the best mythic hc and thermo the best mythic shotgun

[raw glade]

I’m going to be one of them after the Jaren banner

[gloomy bluff]

Rossi is my go to

[past hamlet]

Any active promo code?

[neat valley]

i have umeko completely maxed and its def a different experience

i can just imagine how all the other characters feel with fully maxed artifacts

[karmic chasm]

Wait not parole

[karmic chasm]

He’s alright

[vocal hawk]

Solar Boost, I presume

The issue with coverage is it eats into your attribute damage bonuses

[karmic chasm]

Hmm

Idk, I’m lowkey planning to do TLW/Thermo at this point. Gave up on Chaperone except for in PvP

[wise siren]

This picture is amazing haha

[wise siren]

Heck yeah that's super awesome ans glad your loving it!

[indigo solar]

and rpm, the faster he can fire shots the faster he can charge stag

[sharp cedar]

It is beautiful

[indigo solar]

plus searing mark is just insane

[calm vortex]

Seeing a fully buffed Searing shot is such a treat

Though for Jaren and artifact sets ill be interested to see how the Precision Damage artifacts do on him considering all of his abilities specifically say they can deal precision damage

[karmic chasm]

Right? I love how this shader looks on it. Will look real smart on Jaren too. Hoping he has a more Lone Ranger style outfit

[karmic chasm]

Bulwark might be insane

[sharp cedar]

Yes, sir, this game is freaking amazing.It is very addicted

[calm vortex]

Though the Precision artifacts wont do anything for his shotguns unless you plan to use Chaperone on him lol

[karmic chasm]

I was thinking about it, but no longer.

[sharp cedar]

This game have so much things to do

[indigo solar]

Why not, shotguns (bar octant) still deal precision damage, even if it's less than 1x (which it isn't, bc you aren't using Jolted Transit)

[indigo solar]

And octant's volley not dealing precision may actually cause it to have ...funny interactions with Welling Light

[calm vortex]

Its inconsistent for me cause some of the testing I did on shotgun precision damage saw a 0% increase despite saying it has a 1.1x multiplier on some of them

enemies might also have individual weakspot multipliers but I wouldnt know about that

[indigo solar]

Regardless, precision artifacts don't increase the extra damage, but damage as a whole as long as it hits a weak spot

Even if the precision multi is 1x, if you get that yellow number, Calming Token will buff it

[red geyser]

[indigo solar]

I think this guy might like Xuan Wei

[devout horizon]

What makes you say that

[coral canyon]

Did Netease removed Bon Voyage L.E Charms from.black market store ? I swear for the past month or so I haven't seen any in the rotation...

[timber vector]

still there for me in the black market special section

[indigo solar]

The White Tiger just has a hunch

This is great and all but are you sure you meant to post it in this server

[karmic chasm]

Good night guys, one more miserable day of no Jaren (tho I doubt I’ll pull him day one anyway)

[compact crescent]

The only rule of nature that really matters is...survival of the fittest!

[devout horizon]

I don’t think bro got the reference

[glass needle]

[coarse sparrow]

OH CRAP 😂

My bad

[glass needle]

eververse praxic blade ornaments/crystals. 1k silver each

[pulsar coral]

cat 2 on partridge?

[devout horizon]

Nah I’ve had cat 2 for a bit now. Just did another catalysis

[pulsar coral]

Ah gotcha

Saddest thing as a f2p player is only being able to have one build for a character if i want to play multiple
Like I have ning fei at 72.5k but only the general build i dont have good artifact rolls for stuff like calamity for ning

[coarse sparrow]

1k silver to become a Jedi sentinel

[exotic sinew]

Is there any Na pack leader on? Or a deputy

[devout horizon]

I’d suggest choosing 2 at a time tbh

[round grove]

... the precision artifacts work on shotguns now?

[raw glade]

Give me Jarennnnnnn

[rotund raptor]

I only have 6k lumia🫠

[pulsar coral]

Zehahahaha

[torn otter]

Is it just me or the chance of getting exotic artifacts double or tripled if we use capacitor?

[summer ledge]

Better get to Legacy. You are going to need a lot more sheafs.

[tight talon]

is just 1x rewards times 2. its not extra %

[raw glade]

I have a million chests lol

[vocal hawk]

The only other piercing dual type we have, Rossi, implies that Piercing artifacts do no work with non-piercing weapons
Bulwark Token does not proc with precision crossbow kills (pardon my terrible aim, i don't often touchscreen)

[raw glade]

Actually, only 150

[tight talon]

though i wished it actually boosted droprates. we do get only 5 from casual activeness and some extras from exchanges

[tight talon]

Holy what a waste

[raw glade]

All I know is I’m definitely going to have a t4 Jaren. I’m going to be the belle of the ball.

Unfortunately, Guild Wars reforged launches tomorrow and I’m probably going to be addicted

[vocal hawk]

Artifacts with damage archetype labels are finnicky. Some Impact stuff works without Impact weapons, others don't.

[tight talon]

Yeah not a fan of many of em cause they are locked to characters being used

[vocal hawk]

Depending on what Token artifacts people want they might work with shotguns

Hard to tell

[tight talon]

apparently helhest is buggiest character and still hasnt been fixed, you dont hear Grom talking when you open ghost menu, you can equip Spread and Rapid Fire artifacts on her for some reason

[tight talon]

idk why any1 would like to take the pain of aiming for weakpoints using a shotgun like id get it if you had less spread and more slugs where body shots dont do enough damage but Thermoplaye has enough "slugs" per say to deal good enough damage

Even when I was using Octant on Gwwyn (i didnt have Concerto), i was always wasting time trying to aim the 8 ammo Volley shot for precision hits and always either missed or hit the body instead. Then one of the catalysts made so that u can keep rapidfiring the gun for precision hits to deal enough damage

[mellow rivet]

Close or mid range for scope mod on heavy GL?

[devout horizon]

That’s not bad

Isn’t that like 33 pulls

[vocal hawk]

Roughly

[rotund raptor]

Yea near that

But after 60 pull is it guaranted to get that character?

[devout horizon]

What’s your current pity at

Pity carries over iirc. If you used 40 draws on one limited banner without getting the unit, the next limited banner will still take 20 more draws for a guaranteed

[rotund raptor]

I didnt do much pulls on maru banner

Propably like 20 25

[devout horizon]

Did you actually get Maru

[rotund raptor]

Nah i didnt

[devout horizon]

You should get Jaren then

[rotund raptor]

Ill def try to get him since i have some leaves

[devout horizon]

You are very very likely to get Jaren if you gave correct numbers.

[quaint flame]

jaren looks fun owo

I got around 80 pulls and 25 till guarentee, hopefully I have similar luck to helhest banner

[rotund raptor]

Ill grind hard to get him . Even tho i didnt like maru i feel kinda bad that didnt get her but wjatever ill get her next time if there is

[quaint flame]

cowboy HE WILL BE MINEEEE yippieee

[devout horizon]

33 rolls means 27 pity left. Subtract 20 to 25 away for somewhere between 7 and 2 rolls away from hard pity, which I sure hope you don’t end up hitting because that’s rough.

[rotund raptor]

Fir niw im focusing on getting those catalyst for mythics i did a terrible mistake and synthetized one for trinity cuz i thought it would give me the weapon. If i did mahamyamuri bow i would be with 2 silver coins .f me

[quaint flame]

plus extra rolls from doing pulls and this month's discounted pulls (idk currency name )

[devout horizon]

Dw. Those are very easy to come by. You get like 30 a week minimum

[rotund raptor]

Should i do some mire rolls on maru then or nah

[devout horizon]

No because if you get Maru, it resets pity

[rotund raptor]

I sure hope i dont get in the worst case scenario then lol

[quaint flame]

do it for the character you like, or account 👍 I personally pull on who looks fun

plus currency is limited, so choose what makes you happy (unless you whale)

[devout horizon]

I sincerely doubt you’ll hit hard pity. That takes some atrocious luck. Even if you do hit it, I’m sure you’ll get enough Lumia to get ~7 more rolls for Jaren within the season

[exotic token]

Catalyst Band 01 - While in standard firing mode, this weapon's damage ramps up as it's fired, increasing by 30% each time until the magazine is empty

Octant's catalyst band 1 doesn't state a cap and says it increases until the mag is empty... Jaren ward can technically shoot 22 shots in a row without letting the mag empty 👀

[rotund raptor]

Oh ok then thanks

[devout horizon]

No problem. Just keep saving until jaren comes out, try out his kit in the trial, and if you like him, pull for him 🔥

[quaint flame]

^^^

[devout horizon]

His kit seems legitimately fun. I really like the magazine manipulation going on

[quaint flame]

I do like hand cannons, and having impact on the side helps my account alot.

Also helps that last vow is coming too

[devout horizon]

We have so many exotic options for him. It’s gonna take a lot of testing it’s probably gonna be octant lmao

BP weapon definitely looks cool

[quaint flame]

noooo still gonna focus on handcannon tho ehe, more fun for meee

[red geyser]

[novel sable]

Nothing will make me use anything but the last word

best gun of all time

[timber vector]

[tight talon]

Does he reload mag on hit?!

[solar pawn]

I got confused, thought forsaken was a mod.

[leaden lintel]

how much time left till jaren?

[devout horizon]

That’ll be fixed if the CMs do decide to keep character roles

[solar pawn]

Hope so... they are cool.

[pure oar]

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[fervent root]

Looking to align our pack (WishWardens) "WISH" with other packs and members to score high on the leaderboard event! Would appreciate and reciprocate with other packs willing to exchange. Please reach out for more information if you're curious! Thank you all lightbearers!

[twilit owl]

29hrs I think

[plucky marsh]

Wsp guys

[low tinsel]

Hey man I don’t wanna be mister complains all the time but what the hell is with the void expanses just sucking for the past two times they’ve come around? I can’t even beat stage 26/30 this week last time it was 29/30… that dvargal drill or whatever it’s called it literally just sucks it doesn’t do enough damage at all, nor does ikora or Maru like I’m all for a challenge if I do the proper amount of damage but I’m literally just being damage locked at a 70.000!!! IKORA like are we serious??

[plucky marsh]

Damn man I hope you solve this problem

[naive ingot]

I can't get past stage 29...

Hoping it's impact soon.

[tight talon]

attal has darker blue tone than Mod role which is Cyan blue

[solar pawn]

Oh, hmmm... a slight difference.

I think it's the white they put in that makes it hard to distinguish.

[naive ingot]

And has in it

[low tinsel]

Yea I just feel like the spread with void isn’t a great idea

[still pollen]

Where is the snowflake banner thingy?

[toxic lily]

Anybody looking for 1 more in a lucky fireteam

[violet flume]

I have estela is it wise to get jaren 😐

[compact crescent]

How are people getting stuck in expanse of all things, I could smear my phone in dog food and it would be cleared by my dog randomly licking the screen. 🗿

[tight talon]

Yeah lowkey Ikora kinda mid without her T4

I used T1 Maru and got by just fine

[low tinsel]

Idk man maybe it’s the drill that’s just not doing it for me, feels so weak to use

[tight talon]

Damn ;-;

[tight talon]

Probably the build that u might be running?

[cyan tide]

Sure, they have different coverage

[jolly inlet]

yoo anyone wanna run master one calamity ops? 71.4k maru 71.7k hellhest na servers, wanna hit unchanged

[west violet]

Honestly and no front, void expanse should be a easy catch with Ikora. Maru idk cuz I don’t have her. But Ikora should be more than good to go sub 8 Minutes. At least that’s my experience with her.

[cyan tide]

I got a 7 minutes clear with Maru first try

[jolly inlet]

i have maru t0 n cleared void side within 8 mins at 70k

[west violet]

Yeah with Maru it should even easier as with Ikora.

[raw glade]

Anyone here going to play Guild Wars reforged?

[true mauve]

Ooo that was good PvP too, I liked Guild Wars

[raw glade]

Reforged launches tomorrow

[true mauve]

Mobile?

[raw glade]

PC, with controller support now.

[true mauve]

Weak

[devout void]

I'm curious to hear the community's and NetEase's opinions on this. The use of tool-assisted speedruns (TAS), macros in a live game with a ladder and rewards... Even if the macros aren't amazing here, they allow for certain advantages and undermine the principle of equality. It also opens the door to a perfect TAS like Calamity Ops; I don't want my game to become Zelda: Ocarina of Time, or at least they should be given a category. Of course, these players probably won't be penalized; most online games try to limit this.

[raw glade]

doesn't reloading reset the effect?

[devout void]

Especially picking the cannon and shoot like wtf

[west violet]

Easy mode lol. Honestly macros should not be allowed

[devout void]

I know these players are seen as gods here @twilit thistle , it's not hate, hope NetEase gives its opinion and I'll do the biggest TAS on every activity then. But that's not the point, we don't play Rising for that, and knowing them, it's not part of their plan

[devout void]

Human reaction time cant do that yes

[west violet]

Exactly. And think about the different input devices like M+K, Controller and Touchscreen even there are differences at the aim and movement. If M+K are use macros the other two are cooked

[devout void]

I'm surprised to see this on YouTube and be proud of it instead of hiding it. Sometimes macros that help with boring tasks in games are tolerated, but this seems weird to me

[cursive stone]

man i love the boxer gift of the nine so much

shooting game and you just spam punch

[west violet]

My thoughts, if it’s not effects other players it’s fine. But at ladders and competitive it’s a no go imo

[pulsar badge]

anyone else see how like 5 hours ago the chat was rambling about how jewish people run the world

this games community is such a gift

[tight talon]

what

[pulsar badge]

that last message gave me image perms so now you can see what i saw

[coarse sparrow]

thought you meant discord chat

[tight talon]

probably likely against the rules to bring politics but not wrong either when you check out OpenAI, Palantir for some reason >.>

[pulsar badge]

dont worry this isnt political these guys are just schizo

[tight talon]

[cyan tide]

Reminds me of room 1 in Hi3, people go crazy when left relatively unmoderated

[coarse sparrow]

honkai impact 3rd?

[pulsar badge]

dude the worst gacha chat ive seen was like room 201 in etheria restart

straight up talking about illegal topics in there like it was normal and sharing links to it

[thorn arch]

Unfair for now since they're competing with REAL players, but if there were a mode where the runs didn't count, I'd say fair game

[devout void]

Sadly netease support is one of the worst, we have been reporting someone that speedhack etc a lot and nothing happen

Will be the same story for that

[true mauve]

Issakis gives no reward for leaderboard, its just a leaderboard for time

When we see Cal Ops macros gating Master is when we outrage

[spring oyster]

What exactly does the Pack Expanse monument go by in the Shooting Range? Right now, it is showing no one and we have plenty that have done Expanse last cycle

[thorn arch]

Still a leaderboard where people compete

[devout void]

They'll say they already have the best NA time without macros and that the ladder resets tomorrow, so it doesn't hurt. But that's not the problem.

[cyan tide]

I agree, outside of Cal Ops this doesn't really matter since leaderboard times are just a flex. They should probably still get banned or at least suspended tho since I assume the use of macros is against ToS

[plucky marsh]

Wsg

[pulsar coral]

How do you even detect macros

[devout horizon]

Excellent question

[devout void]

[soft bobcat]

Look at specific delays between actions. If it's always an exact or near exact delay it's most likely a macro

[pulsar coral]

Right, I’m just concerned about really efficient players getting banned over false flags. From the sound of it the macro seems to only be used in specific instances (like turning the hacks on and off) so reliably detecting one could be difficult

[spring oyster]

Are Leaderboards/ competitive mode, like Calamity, a norm in other Netease games? I wonder if they even have/invested in technology to detect that

[brittle wagon]

How to get those 5 fish items from the Event

[soft bobcat]

They didn't seem to give af about ppl afk Macroing in Diablo Immortal that's all I know 😂

[robust sequoia]

That’s been Diablo since number 1 and 2….

Didn’t know people did it for games like this… or Zelda?!?

[soft bobcat]

Yeah but Immortal is an MMO with more competitive aspects

[robust sequoia]

True, but that game series just seems to attract them and do nothing since the dawn of time

[soft bobcat]

Personally I take my Calamity Expert 2 rank and ignore it til the next cycle. Got Master 2 once and that was enough sweatiness for me. Not worth it for a couple clusters

[mild imp]

I was looking at off topic chat thinking i was looking at main chat and was about to call this server inactive

Glad I actually looked

[placid thunder]

I've seen video today on YouTube where people skipped room 2 in Calamity Ops. They're not even hiding it

[pulsar badge]

yknow that feeling when youre playing calamity ops and youre spam pinging the precision shinka and your tan2 is hitting the void enemy with his fire gun instead of shooting him

[lost hazel]

Good Morning all

[pulsar badge]

bad morning all

[twilit owl]

People still using unstuck afaik.

They should remove unstuck from CO and allow vote restart for borked runs with no attempt loss

[placid thunder]

100% agree

[placid thunder]

It was a mistake making all endgame content around speed running. Both Expanse and CalOps

[elder parrot]

update notes out. Expanse highest floor 30-->40 artifact max lvl 80-->85

[twilit owl]

It being both is a lame; I enjoy expanse but CO feels like a brick wall chore after the first few runs

[wraith totem]

Link to notes?

[elder parrot]

I only have Chinese version screenshot. Just login to game

[weak ginkgo]

In game

[placid thunder]

Great, now we need to farm new essence to upgrade artifacts 80 to 85👍

[devout horizon]

Wait seriously

[placid thunder]

Yes, it's one of the awards for Expanse lvl 31-40

[lean burrow]

i was hoping they made some changes to calamity ops, unfortunately that's not the case. Promotion in my zone is 423k, my other packmates have something like 398k 🙃

[devout horizon]

Is it a seasonal thing or is it permanent

[lean burrow]

would be embarrassing if it's seasonal, really depends on how much essence you get

[placid thunder]

Probably permanent,we shall see

[tight talon]

Ill get ingame and post notes here @devout horizon

[devout horizon]

thanks, man.

[tight talon]

hold on

[hidden carbon]

I gotchu

The important bits

[tight talon]

;-; all bits where

[hidden carbon]

The other bit

[tight talon]

one thing i hate about mumuplayer, alot

[hidden carbon]

Finally improvements for bow

[true mauve]

This boost all abilities damage also weapon mastery should be included

[devout horizon]

@true mauve start testing bows again

[true mauve]

What am I testing? Ive been using Rossi in SG

[devout horizon]

The new correction for it and damage

[true mauve]

Rossi eats Marus, im lovin it. He can hold up in a 1v1 also

[true mauve]

All they did was buff one perk I dont use. Draw time is weak imo, reload is best

[tight talon]

I am lowkey disappointed with the update, they said two endgame modes update and we only got Expanse update.

[real delta]

😂 "fairness" a way to fix this ugly thing, they need to every reset hour, grab the promo floor on the highest zone (99% times is #1), and the lowest promotion floor, and get the average. Every zone in Master should have the same bands. Like, 391K is ridiculous, literally Expert II max score but to be promoted to Master II.

Me with 424K on unchanged, while someone else who played blindfolded and a disconnected controller doing 392K can be promoted.

[devout void]

Cant wait to need jarren for the expanse

[tight talon]

Gauntlet is just target farming exotic weapons, not anything there. Neither anything for Calamity either

[devout horizon]

[devout horizon]

Won’t Jolder be enough

[true mauve]

Yusssss!!!!! 🔥

[devout void]

We must not discourage bad players

[white fossil]

theyre making the bow even stronger? im gonna be using rossi more

[tight talon]

so that was an effing lie

[rustic moat]

the un chnaged is 402k??

[real delta]

I mean, this is supposed to be a high-end content and very sweaty, Master 1 shouldn't be that easy for any zone

[real delta]

yea man, Zone 1 is literally disgusting. And floor is about to get to 425K.... imagine how sweaty is getting, why do i need to sweat even more now to not get into unchanged? While others are doing 395K and chilling the whole cycle? XD

[devout horizon]

That’s what I meant by testing. I’m wondering if arrows will snap more in pvp

[hasty ocean]

Got 1200 sliver on the ready to get Jaren's cosmetic bundle and it sounds peak like "Lone Gun" and "Paratrooper" I'm deffo getting it

[true mauve]

Ive already been playing Rossi like I said so this will be great

[true mauve]

I swear netease listens to me and loves me

[real delta]

Funny thing is, i played with 2 friends who are in easier zones, both are ranking in top 3 with the same 424K i have... both will comfortably be promoted to Master 2, while me, i could stay on unchanged just because this game puts me into Zone 1 every single cycle.

[rustic moat]

thats crazy. and thats why people disconnect left and right. What a poorly designed activity

[gritty rune]

So where’s the ‘endgame updates’ that are so goated that it’s listed twice?

[true mauve]

Expanse and raid exotic choice

[tight talon]

Expanse is there, thats fine. Calamity where? doesnt it count as Endgame compared to the likes of Blitz and Onslaught

[devout void]

All good player are overseer it's not so sweaty, just watch the video and 425k is super free

[true mauve]

It was the exotic reward choice for raid 🤣

[devout horizon]

Nah the 20 second unstuck timer counts as end game content fr fr

[tight talon]

Not an update then

[hasty ocean]

Anyone else hyped for Jaren?

[devout void]

They make the strike more easy with 20 seconds

[devout horizon]

Literally everyone

[hasty ocean]

"THE BUILDING" 🔥🔥🔥

[agile spindle]

Jaren is a very mid character

[devout horizon]

In lore, yes

[solar viper]

I just saw that Shadowshaper will be available for levels 31-35 in tomorrow's update. Does that mean the Vex are coming? I hope so

[devout horizon]

Bro showed up, died, and got glazed in death.

[dusty spire]

Very just scoped him now

[devout void]

I don't know if it's changed, but before, after the reset, you had to wait a few days and you weren't in zone 1. After Maru, zone 1 didn't have 200 players; some waited for it to fill up.

[hasty ocean]

Nah he's the REAL Impact META

[dusty spire]

If it’s your style definitely grab him, runner ect. But he’s got big numbers to go against

[solar viper]

I think Jaren is very “very” character