💭│main-chat

[karmic chasm]

So you’re saying nah, just get last word 😭

[vocal hawk]

If Dawning's stuff is anything like Festival of the Lost, we'll probably get a new helmet at least

[tight talon]

Now that we have more confirmation, I am gonna start working on Shotgun and Old Perfect

[karmic chasm]

I hate old perfect because of its looks primarily

[tight talon]

I hope it has an interaction with Jaren's super. Cause Jaren uses his Relic and equipped weapon to shoot.

[mossy veldt]

November revenue (1.76m) was half of that in october (3.85m). Crota's End is also probably coming out in January and if the devs don't make the changes the game needs by then, all the players who will return for the raid will just leave, and leave much harder than before. There's a feedback option in the settings that we can only hope they read. Maybe if we collectively put good feedback on changes we need something may happen

[teal mantle]

Honestly, I'm hopeful but I think a new helmet is the best we can hope for at this point. Like you said, based off of FotL.

[karmic chasm]

Lowkey, I will do so even though I don’t agree with the severity of the doomsaying. What would you collectively like to suggest to them?

[meager gorge]

Woah funny cat person

[tight talon]

I just feel like Netease wants to add stuff, but it's Bungie saying like no don't do this, do this but don't do that.

The reason why everything feels half baked.

[mossy veldt]

I hope I'm wrong, this game is the most fun i've had in years. Honestly just voice your own concerns, thats the only way the feedback will be real and honest. I hear most people (myself included) complaining about the lack of an endgame, poor monetization, no difficult activities, etc...

[tight talon]

Black Friday is a massive thing for NA/EU and all we got was same cosmetics at 50% off.

They could have added pulls, maybe black market coins bundles for example.

[meager gorge]

Bungie too scared if rising does too well destiny 2 players would move on

[tight talon]

Actual Hardcore D2 players already moved on cause they feel it's cash grab

[meager gorge]

True I moved on

[mossy veldt]

Apparently crota's end is coming next month. Can't imagine that'd be too good for D2 so I don't think that's the case

[thorny obsidian]

2 more triumphs for my shifting seal and this game probably goes on the shelf for a while

[tight talon]

It's Crota's Doomsday here and it's gonna be 3 matchmaking encounters than a whole thing like an actual raid with puzzles and stuff

[empty kettle]

Just so you know, sensory tower isn't that accurate

[sharp talon]

even if they take your feedback now, it will still take a while for them to adjust future plans i think. the stuff we got now was probably from a poorly planned launch

[meager gorge]

Hows renegades doing btw

[tight talon]

While they could 100% re-release Crota's End on D2 and nearly every player will fall for nostalgia bait

[empty kettle]

Crota's end already exist in d2

[teal mantle]

I won't find out until tomorrow lol

[tight talon]

Paint it new again, third time's the charm

Didn't they already do it twice or something in last 6 or so years

[meager gorge]

Me in the corner being happy to see the numbers in my guns unlike seeing you do more dmg

[opaque briar]

what is the best hand canon in the game right now, and the best roll for it?

[empty kettle]

Not really, they just changed some mechanics from regular Crota's end to a new one

[mossy veldt]

yup but it was said that it'll be the same mechanics and encounters from the main games

[meager gorge]

Mannnn idk tbh honestly it's either the solar or void

[mossy veldt]

also they've already done an actual raid on par with D2 standards, they just removed it for whatever fkng reason

[storm scroll]

anyone have a built chaperone?

[twilit thistle]

Hopefully our new landlords, Sony, decide that it’s worth being less restrictive

[south cargo]

What sort of on par comparison, what d2 raid

[meager gorge]

Oh God poeple will soon

[mossy veldt]

back in september they release the eclipse raid, which required communication, had puzzles, was actually difficult, and felt like a real raid. Not like the one we have rn

[south cargo]

alright thats a bit too far comparing that to any d2 raid

[lapis bear]

felt like a raid lair, like Spire of Stars or Eater of Worlds

[south cargo]

it felt like a dungeon at most

[naive ingot]

I've been under Sony a long time. Being a playstation user (though I have xbox and a switch as well) used to be a beta tester on PS3 and PS4

[lapis bear]

I mean, so did EoW and SoS lmao

[mossy veldt]

it wasn't quite up there yet, but gave us a taste of what was possible with this game. I definitely think they can make something good if they just try

[south cargo]

good for mobile game standard

[tight talon]

Parole. Rolls you should be chasing is Bullseye Rebate/Syncopation or Facilitated Agreement and Syncopation. Make sure your exotic mod has Mag size at the minimum

[glass needle]

i mean don’t play then?

[south cargo]

i mean i think ppl are not playing

[true mauve]

If only Jaren wore chaps 😭 his mythic skin better be leather chaps

[south cargo]

ppl who dont like this game/netease have moved on

[true mauve]

With a 8pack abs

[teal mantle]

Anything else?

[true mauve]

Indian bead vest maybe

[wanton cape]

Backless, Leather chaps

[true mauve]

Riding chaps fr

[fierce ridge]

Soooo my Real question is maru t6 or jaren 😂😅

[empty kettle]

Jaren

[true mauve]

Jaren...

[storm scroll]

That's not a real question

[short locust]

Jaren

[inner galleon]

Net tease did Naraka so they have my support

[storm scroll]

Maru can go walk the plank

[south cargo]

id go with maru but thats because of her light linked

[teal mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[true mauve]

Whats jarens?

[teal mantle]

Yes.

[south cargo]

idk but i doubt itd be as good as marus

[inner galleon]

Wait wait maru hate gotta be forced because maru is pretty busted 😭

[true mauve]

Precision dmg bet watch

Everyone need Jaren T6

[south cargo]

marus is a must use on almost every character, if you can get an overshield easily marus is a must use

[glass needle]

i mean to @ me 10days later tho lol

[teal mantle]

Busted, cracked and goated.

[inner galleon]

exactly

[storm scroll]

She is the best spread character, but that's not saying much, stop falling for the flavor of the month and choose characters that could last even when things are not geared toward them

[true mauve]

Pick for fun

[storm scroll]

we shall see in a month who is actually goated

[true mauve]

Whoever netease buffs

[south cargo]

helhest will be the best in a month still

[storm scroll]

Now that is very important so you win

[true mauve]

Play for fun, if character is weak Jolder proved they get buffs

[south cargo]

ok thats really good

[gloomy loom]

is it worth preforming mythic solar shotgun for jaren ?

[true mauve]

@south cargo 💀

[south cargo]

thats useful on every character, ning with that light linked will be nice

[true mauve]

Every character minus maru and ikora xD

[tight talon]

Oo tough spot for Attal/Umeko on many characters

[south cargo]

yup and its not a small amount 11% is really good

[true mauve]

Chaperone Jaren when 😭 that shotty was made for him

[teal mantle]

Ikora is someone evil eyeing chat right now.

[tight talon]

Takes 1 in 18 engrams to get double thumbs-up, best time to farm was yesterday

[teal mantle]

[gloomy loom]

ahh gotcha i have like 8k mythic shards saved up lol so if not this week hopefully i get god roll next week

[tight talon]

GL

[true mauve]

Ima t0 jaren and be happy

He isnt enough to make me spend, waiting for april. The pinnacle rework could be really bad

[tight talon]

I wish exotic mods weren't so bad. Gotta go do Challenge mode again cause I had to waste 7 exotic impact/choice just for Spinosaurous shot

[teal mantle]

What if they put leather chaps on him?

[true mauve]

I will still own him T0

[teal mantle]

And the six pack?

[true mauve]

Looks the same T0 as T6

[finite gazelle]

I've been trying to get an exotic mod with auto loading for ages

[thorny obsidian]

think i have enough for act 2 lol

[teal mantle]

Can I have one?

[thorny obsidian]

yeah sure. XD

probably wont even get everything in act 2 with these 75

[vocal hawk]

75 one bright pigment drops

[teal mantle]

Probably not. But you never know.

[inner galleon]

Don’t helhest do something similar

[inner galleon]

Like maru ? She can handle every kind of shield and if she’s really good at add clear and tanking damage I would definitely say she’s good long term

[thorny obsidian]

prob not even a glow

[twilit thistle]

🫠 that feeling after you just spent 520 pinnacle energy on legendary campaigns and in return you got 2 photons.

[storm scroll]

Until the Solar rocket titan appear lmao

[storm scroll]

she's getting crept for sure

[upper gorge]

I tend to agree with this long term gamble, i do hope we get to an even more Defense Meta soon

[storm scroll]

You should most certainly have her, I have them all. Just saying

[storm scroll]

there are only three slots in Calamity

[true mauve]

Touch controls arnt terrible

[storm scroll]

Probably getting another defense around the time of the defense mode dropping

[twilit thistle]

👀 If I see you play the same char twice, I’m buying a lottery ticket

[true mauve]

What you mean?

[boreal river]

Nah they feel awkward for a Shooter rpg game but I’m a pc guy so

[upper gorge]

I have invested in her a bit bit and she is fun to play, but My rossi is hardcore so im not too worried about Defense meta coming. Im so close to all tier 10

[true mauve]

Im a controller guy but no controller at work

[true mauve]

Ooo I got these the other day

[upper gorge]

Ooo im liking your style on that

[storm scroll]

She is fun, I just think ppl will notice when void/spread goes away. there will be other options that deal with shields/shinkas faster. She will always have good ad clear. And though she can be boosted, she is slow

[true mauve]

I heard sig ability better than super though

[wheat ferry]

T5 being a 1 extra second of blind is crazyyyyy

That's a T1 upgrade at best😭

[upper gorge]

I settled on these 😉 fits my play style best

[short locust]

Yeah T2 and T5 iirc are awful

[boreal river]

It took 11 years but Last Word finally has a catalyst well 3

[vocal hawk]

What do the perturbed artifacts do?

[empty kettle]

Idk

[true mauve]

The Bation artis?

[true mauve]

Looks like precision hits give OS, something that heals for a percentage of precision hit, a dmg bonus on movement, and an on blind or against blinded enemies. All prob focus around precision

[tight talon]

Would be way awesome if that's that.

Tho I am guessing it's gonna be majorly hits/sec trigger condition cause many of those except IV are already in game

[true mauve]

Look at slot1 calming in game, look at slot 2 healing, look at slot 3 valiant, obstructing is new but those are all existing prefixes

[tight talon]

Yeah Slot I Calming is Overshield on Weapon kills

[true mauve]

Thats why I said on hit 😛

[tight talon]

Yeah, hit something in 2 secs for massive boost ahh

[true mauve]

Prob this tbh, like his light link bonus

[tight talon]

Only Jolder, Ning fei and Kabr could use that

[true mauve]

Nah everyone can use precision dmg

TL just got deadlier with Allocation, Solar AR with Time Marches On

[inner galleon]

Everyone will eventually but I just feel like you are just forcing this hate because if things where not surrounded by speed running maru who literally punching bag who literally refuses to die along with decent damage

[tight talon]

Hits/sec. Rapid fire bros got it. Precision dudes are hella slow Unless it's Total Lockdown or Attal with Crimson

[bitter estuary]

praying you actually get them skins

[tight talon]

Or even Helhest with Salvo/Contravene

[bitter estuary]

i love ikora

[twilit thistle]

😳 I never knew sidearms we’re so strong in PvP

[inner galleon]

Have you not played destiny before outside of dr?

[left sleet]

How do you have the last word already?

[wheat ferry]

Are those the new artifacts?

[tight talon]

Screenshot from CC

[naive ingot]

You never felt Trespasser becoming the problem on D1 then lol

[tight talon]

Yes

[bitter estuary]

idk if this has been sent but oof

[twilit thistle]

It was never the Meta long enough for me to pick it up. I started on d1, right before the taken king dropped.

[left sleet]

Do we know what artifacts are in the lore?

[dawn sonnet]

This guy knows

[naive ingot]

It was around TTK time.

[bitter estuary]

down 50% but atleast it's not below 1m

[empty kettle]

Sensory tower isn't fully accurate, since it doesn't include every single source

[tight talon]

Psst slides a 1$ note

Can get you more if you tell us the perks earlier than your next video

[bitter estuary]

i know, it's literally listed on gacharevenue

[south cargo]

thats money spent

[bitter estuary]

cn/tw/hk/mo is horribly innacurate so ignore it

android is not accurate either, so i guess most of the estimations may be reflected in ios profits (even with playcover you're essentially just playing the ios version)

[tight talon]

Wdym Ios Profit, apple eats whopping 30% cut. And we don't even have an idea of their Website sales

[south cargo]

with an estimated 33k active players those money spent values must have some major whales playing

[bitter estuary]

google play does it too... but you do you ig

[tight talon]

gotta trash Apple whenever I get the chance. No offense meant

[twilit thistle]

It didn’t help that everyone I knew was addicted to the raid. I think I do kinda remember someone talking about it.

[bitter estuary]

we should trash epic games instead :/ 12% cut but unusable storefront

egs mobile is really wack, compared to chinese store counterparts and googleplay/ios, which their cuts are all 30%

i don't think that's a fair argument to talk crap about ios, android will eventually follow suit because google owns that

[runic coral]

good vid brother

[short locust]

Patiently awaiting your Last Word video 👀 💦

[meager gorge]

I need help in the fishing event I'm missing 2 items

[wheat ferry]

Keep fishing

[meager gorge]

Idk if you understand I need to know the locations of the mysterious items lmao

[bitter estuary]

either way this game atleast on mobile has their payment go through their respective store's system, even in other stores your purchases are still handled with google play

[cyan tide]

They can drop from any spot

[wheat ferry]

Can get them all in haven

[meager gorge]

Oh world thx I needed that

[bitter estuary]

the 5 items are random, it's rng, and you can get them anywhere

[cyan tide]

I don't think I'm gonna be able to get all the shiny fish

[south cargo]

mumu might go through some sort of google payment, as mumu emulates from an android device

[dusk socket]

did they buff granade launcher?

[cyan tide]

No?

[devout horizon]

Wdym

[dusk socket]

it is giving much more damage than last week

[devout horizon]

Did you upgrade it or something

[dusk socket]

no

[bitter estuary]

mumuplayer uses google pay services, but profits go towards netease but the percentage is probably 100% or near 100%

also no im not gonna start this paying services discours all over again, but if you do use google pay services to do purchases then it's definitely going through the system

[simple plank]

You know based on JR's kit

Chaperone would probably put in some good work? With Empty Fort Strategy as his primary. Chappy does like that precision stuff

[short locust]

I think TLW will be a better fit purely because it's RPM will let you built stag stacks quickly (15 per 9 shots with a 10 round capacity) , which fuels his weapon mastery, and burst combo. Plus the Mythic shotties are real good

[loud cipher]

Im back baby

[cyan tide]

I just want to know if old prefect wil be a good alternative to TLW, I don't want to invest in another bp weapon right after drill

[winged lintel]

For any other triumph hunters: is there an easy way to do the "unlock 60 weapon mods" triumph? I have no clue what mods I haven't unlocked

The game says ive unlocked all 204 or whatever but obviously the triumph is something different

[hasty ocean]

Don't be down prized angler it took ages for me to nearly obtain them all and I have 2 two left which are exotics

[teal mantle]

Same. She hasn't been getting alot of love.

[devout horizon]

[lilac acorn]

Hi there

[cyan tide]

I'm missing 3, one rare, one legendary and one mythic. And the worst part is that they're all from different spots

[lilac acorn]

which phone controller is the best option for destiny? ios system

[tight talon]

Nah? You click the price, select Google Pay, it opens a whole nother browser and a Chinese payment merchant where u pay the price + txn and it's done.

Idk if Google takes a cut for using Google Pay (cause it's just card deets connected to an account)

[serene ingot]

dualshock 5

[winged lintel]

Anybody with a triumph score of over 3800 here?

[wheat ferry]

Old perfect is like a shotty one so precision will suck on it

[wheat ferry]

Depends how much you want to spend lol

[lilac acorn]

within reason))

[bitter estuary]

oh so it's a very somewhat similar case to fortnite then, mb, except you can optionally select google pay services

[frigid kraken]

The 7k one

[devout horizon]

Danielle’s version of reason is far outside our versions of reason

[wheat ferry]

Within reason is subjective though based on income

Gamesir g8 is what I use and that's like £60

[lilac acorn]

like a g8/plus

[devout horizon]

Never mind they locked in

[bitter estuary]

i use a 9 dollar aliexpress no-brand hall-effect stick controller

[wheat ferry]

Would pay 100s for a T6 pixel character but £9 for a McDonald's big mac is too expensive 😂

[devout horizon]

Wait are Big Macs really that expensive these days???

[wheat ferry]

Milkshakes are like £3.99....

[lilac acorn]

haha, what about razer kishi?

[wheat ferry]

I haven't used it so I couldn't say

[wheat ferry]

Kishi ultra would look like the best option from their line up it seems

[lilac acorn]

Yeah, I think so

[tight talon]

Gonna say will be hella funny if Old Perfect Scorch Explosions triggered in Jaren's Super

[gritty rune]

Cos Big Mac tastes like crap and isn’t worth a single dollar

If you replaced a McDonald’s patty with sawdust, there would barely be any difference

[vocal hawk]

Obligatory retelling of the times McDonald's gave me such bad food poisoning I had to go to the hospital

Yes, times, multiple

[gritty rune]

Chinese McDonalds though, entire different thing

[weak ginkgo]

Why is my game stutter even after correct settings on mumu ? Any ideas?

[twilit thistle]

🫠 as someone who hasn’t been able to eat fast food in over two years I would enjoy that problem

[short locust]

Getting lunch for one person is like $20+ nowadays, if not more

[tight talon]

How does that happen , I have had Mcds soo many times that I can't count and it's always the same awesome tasting thing ever

[tight talon]

How about Maharaja Big Mac? Two flame grilled Chicken Patties with rest of the Big Mac instead of beef patties

[thin valve]

getting 0 exotics out of 6 GM keys feels very good

[gritty rune]

If it’s from McDonald’s, it’ll taste like crap

On a side note, my Dbrand killswitch case came in

[tight talon]

It's fine, surprisingly

[tight talon]

Raise Acclaim

[gritty rune]

And after like 2 hours trying to beat a boss in WWM, I admitted I’m not a pro gamer and switched off legend difficulty

[twilit thistle]

I am unfamiliar with the lightbearer showcased

[gritty rune]

It’s Wu Ming

[storm junco]

Where are the leaks of Jaren's light tree abilities?

[thin valve]

Its maxed for a while

[tight talon]

That hurts

[vocal hawk]

Check out #🎥丨creator-showcase
One of our partnered content creators made a video showcasing his abilities

[wheat ferry]

Sacrifice your 1st born to RNGesus. It's the only way

[thin valve]

a bit buffs

[brittle stirrup]

viewbotting is needed then huh

ts is so funny

[bold fog]

ok thats just wild

[brittle stirrup]

seems like they havent paid enough money into the youtube one though

[gritty rune]

Tbf, 404 comments. That’s a pretty reasonable comment count for 700k views so probably not botted

A bit low but not obviously botted

[brittle stirrup]

it jumped up from 2.5k views to 255k in 4 hours yesterday. can you justify that?

[tight moon]

Alguien en español que me explique

[brittle stirrup]

likes and comments only went by about 100 (well likes was more like 1000 i think)

[gritty rune]

Ok that is a bit sus

[cyan tide]

Que cosa?

[brittle stirrup]

this is from yesterday

I think when you see the start of the viewbot its easier to see

[short locust]

Expecting Chinese devs to be honest. Couldn't be me

[tight moon]

@cyan tide como reclamar los puntos para votar

[cyan tide]

Para lo del #🛡️iron-medley-vow ?

[tight moon]

@cyan tide si

[bold fog]

ngl expecting lots of youtube views for early on a monday is sus

[brittle stirrup]

como estas (im not portogeese)

[gritty rune]

Things must be getting pretty desperate if they are resorting to viewbotting lol

[frigid kraken]

I remember watching a video before it like ~1k view should average 5 comment

[brittle stirrup]

they've done it for every single character trailer

[cyan tide]

El boton verde al fondo de la pagina deberia dartelos

[brittle stirrup]

These highlighted numbers have not changed whatsoever from after a couple days of their release till now

[gritty rune]

Yeah you right, 1.8m views 200 comments on Maru trailer

We’re f d bois 😩

[brittle stirrup]

all the likes and comment ratios are the exact same. Im assuming Helhest and Jaren have a little higher numbers because one is attractive and the other is the coolest

[worldly hazel]

Buff Tan 🙏🏻💔🥀

[nimble plank]

jaren summoning starts on 4th right?

[brittle stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-the-cat-cat-tongue-clueless-gif-1691601705736895989

[cinder sigil]

[worldly hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-patrick-butt-running-away-patrick-butt-gif-27640463

[simple plank]

yeah their videos are very obviously botted

also is this real

[gritty rune]

Yes, at least the pattern ks real

The actual spending is probably higher than this but it’s getting f d lol

[dense rapids]

What’s the new exotic hc called again?

[gritty rune]

Last Word probably

[dense rapids]

Yes that was discussing that forgot name

[vocal hawk]

It is Last Word

Apparently the catalysts make it do body shot crits

[worldly hazel]

First conversation

[cinder sigil]

sounds about right

[dense rapids]

Not in discord with a friend 😭

[worldly hazel]

lol

[dense rapids]

Thatd be insane doesn’t his tree give crit damage too

[mental dagger]

twice over shifting once over calams #winning

[hard forge]

Guys who has a good 4 finger hud for phones

[nimble plank]

jaren will be interesting, gonna wait for others to get him and share their opinions first tho

[placid thunder]

What did you do?

[mental dagger]

killed people

[round grove]

"low iq dvmb"

u and v aren't even close on the keyboard bruh

[true mauve]

Really?

[tight talon]

The game probably gives enough pulls so that I can get every character at T0 is just W. Would be sad if it reaches EoS.

[round grove]

I could T2 Maru right now, but I'm saving pulls for Jaren T0

[robust sequoia]

T1 is great for Cal Ops—when barrage is active you can launch four annihilations back to back. Extremely helpful to have one more.

[copper silo]

Spent 55 pulls trying for T3 Maru. I’m 5 pulls away from pity I’m just gonna wait. Hate I pulled before I knew umeko was coming back. I need her at T6

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsey-swipe-gif-12738629

[round grove]

Even then, I might just skip this and next banner since I have solar impact and arc rapid-fire solved already

[twilit thistle]

Can’t wait to q with you. I’ve been claiming the ranks on your server to feed my addiction to sg. Almost to professor

[vocal hawk]

straight up i want jaren for the aura

[tight talon]

Still don't get why someone would do this. Y'all skip Pokemon too cause all of them are pretty much useless if they aren't shiny?

[true mauve]

Only if he has chaps

[tight talon]

That pokedex ain't filling itself if you don't catch em

[vocal hawk]

Pokemon don't cost money for each one
Gachas are expensive

I'm still getting all of them that I can

[true mauve]

Pokeballs ain free ask pokemon go

[tight talon]

True , but a single T0 when you aren't paying won't hurt

[vocal hawk]

But I understand people wanting to skip banners they don't see as worth it

But also: i saw people say Helhest was going to be useless and wow she's been in every top calops team for two months straight

Go figure

[true mauve]

Skip 6 dudes to T6 one dude who will be crept by another dude in a month

Gacha life

[vocal hawk]

Skipping Jaren because you have Finnala is some serious "we have solar impact at home" energy

[tight talon]

Yeah cause Precision was in rotation. Will need to see if she's still gonna be there in Spread/Impact. Esp if Cabal Strike rolls in

[vocal hawk]

Yeah probably not

No arc, no piercing

[true mauve]

Jaren is piercing precision, impact is a side effect

[willow otter]

Man how do people get higher than 70k powers

[vocal hawk]

Hand cannons are easily the worst piercing weapon

[tight talon]

Click power on your character, Fix whatever that has double ^

[mental dagger]

its the exact opposite because there is only 1 precision character in the game at this point

[true mauve]

Nah fam, Bows. Pvp bow takes 3 shots HC takes 4

[vocal hawk]

I'm talking about cracking shinkas

Where the archetype actually matters

[true mauve]

Tan2, Attal, Umeko, Helhest?

[mental dagger]

the last one
no point in breaking prec with anything else

[thin valve]

Getting higher 73k is “hard”, before that everything is easy

[true mauve]

Chapperone mess up precision shinka no?

[thin valve]

Anyways the best one is XuanWei

[true mauve]

Like its a savage Exo shotty fr

[vocal hawk]

Chaperone is technically an impact weapon so it doesn't actually receive bonuses against piercing shinkas
It's just not bad against them because it does monstrous precision damage

But I hear that match game severely punishes off-type shinka breaking?

[true mauve]

Idk no shinka in SG

[vocal hawk]

Haven't actually seen that in effect myself

[flint aurora]

Has anyone seen the new artifacts yet?

[twilit thistle]

No ppl in q. I have completed a total of 2 matches despite being in q for 4 hrs.

[vocal hawk]

What's your rank?

[true mauve]

I did like 3 matches in the last 5 days. Ive given up on it. Where Winds Meet hits mobile end of month, I will go play some kung fu dark souls

[tight talon]

Yeah the original talking point was, Helhest relevance in next C Ops will perhaps dip if it's Cabal Strike (where Ning Fei takes precent) another reason to not use her will be Shinka types Spread/Impact

[twilit thistle]

🥺 20th

[vocal hawk]

@dawn sonnet just posted a video in #🎥丨creator-showcase

[vocal hawk]

That explains it...
Top player matchmaking in SG is kinda garbo
Too strict MMR

[tight talon]

Ayo peak. Thanks

[round grove]

Coupled with the fact that both current hand cannon exotics don't even necessarily count as precision weapons...

[twilit thistle]

I thought it was slightly improved?

[vocal hawk]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[twilit thistle]

Well I guess it’s time to hop on the emea servers and Q in both.

[true mauve]

Yeah im using Chappy

[tight talon]

Not happy with these

[flint aurora]

These artifacts really specific this time 😂

[tight talon]

Way too hyperspecific and II is just Healing Nutation for Precision Weapon

[vocal hawk]

Valiant Perturbation is waaay too specific

[flint aurora]

I’m honestly disappointed with them. Hopefully they’re changed

[tight talon]

It's alright imo. I could see it being used with someone like Wolf for example with Unrelenting I or II.

[vocal hawk]

Keep in mind the slot 3 and 4 Blazars had messed up descriptions in the Maru preview

[flint aurora]

Isn’t kabr the only other champ with blind?

[compact crescent]

The slot 1 artifact seems interesting if it can be triggered by any weapon. You could combine it with the one on slot 2 that gives ya stacks when triggering DR effects.

[vocal hawk]

Attal blinds

[flint aurora]

That’s what I thought. Thanks

[vocal hawk]

When her missile signature ricochets it blinds targets

She's also a mid-ranger so she might get use of the third one

Those defense artifacts are kinda garbo tho

[tight talon]

Cause it's Total damage bonus and that too 25%, only requirement is movement speed buff and I hope the DR doesn't have to be self but from Artifact

[flint aurora]

20 meters ain’t a lol of distance 😂

[vocal hawk]

I can see the precision heal being okay but

Yeah

[tight talon]

IV is pretty much Garbage on Attal ngl. Requires you to be upclose and drop Hawkeye token as well for a 8 sec buff that takes forever to recharge

[flint aurora]

Also, just run resolute conjunction for first unless you plan on using unrelenting evo

[vocal hawk]

I am unfortunately predestined to run this

[flint aurora]

Plus, healing is the most useless artifact assistant

[tight talon]

Ring of Conversion working overtime for 5th character in a row

[glass needle]

i want the black crystal. btw these are all the color options for saber

[vocal hawk]

Could've sworn content creators weren't allowed to show this yet

[tight talon]

Also hot take but, if you aren't chasing Leaderboards there's no need to max out Last Word Catalyst aside from 1st Obvious one

[vocal hawk]

I'd argue this is true of most guns

[floral abyss]

[glass needle]

it’s in destiny bulletin 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[hybrid holly]

Will Ring of Conversion work on Jaren with healing being capped?

[tight talon]

Healing capped?

[glass needle]

theirs videos already being posted on the dungeon and the encounters already. everyone’s pissed about it too

[floral abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/ricolino-scolari-gif-12061360726599077047

[vocal hawk]

Yeah that's... somebody's going to get slapped with a takedown

[glass needle]

also the last two crystals are eververse exclusive the rest are tied to in game content

[hybrid holly]

It specifically says that overflow healing will not occur once he reaches full health. Not exactly sure how ring of conversion procs.

[glass needle]

literally trying to find it so i can save it lol 😂

[tight talon]

I mean for comparison, Furries III needs band 2 for ammo refund, We don't talk about TG. Drevgar, Cat 2 is good stopping point.

Last Word really just being Last Word without Catalyst doing Catalyst things

[flint aurora]

Off of overflow healing, so no over shield

[glass needle]

also glad too see Destiny Bulletin posting Destiny Rising content too

[tight talon]

Depends on your slot I artifact is.

Ring of Conversion basically converts every additional instance of healing (on Total Health) into Overshield.

[twilit thistle]

I wonder how hard it would be to get my 200ms ping t0 Umeko on chapter 4, on the leaderboard for sg

[dawn sonnet]

I can actually answer since I tried it. ring didn't seem to consistently work. When it did it was a tiny overshield

[tight talon]

What Slot I artifact were you using and does Jaren have any other ways to heal?

[hybrid holly]

Ok thanks!

[tight talon]

[dawn sonnet]

Mostly through the damage he deals and the first artifact slot. But conversion was weird. so could be an early access thing. I'll have to check at release

[tight talon]

I see thanks

[cyan tide]

Did you try out old prefect on Jaren? I'm wondering if it's a decent alternative to TLW

[thorny frost]

There are specific heals that conversion doesn’t turn into over shield. The main one coming to my mind tho is Estela T1 heal from misfortune. It would be semi broken tho if it did.

[vocal hawk]

Early access was weird for Maru too

I remember fourth slot blazar having the same, broken description as third slot

[dawn sonnet]

Not much unfortunately.

[cyan tide]

I think slot 1 or 2 also had a weird description

[tight talon]

I mean you'd still run potency there to bump it up first. And then rely on Conversion.

Estela is Hella bugged tho. You ramp up Heir Apparent and you get full 4k Overshield

Overshield doesn't generate till your Total Health is full eitherways

[indigo solar]

@twilit thistle 😳

[twilit thistle]

If it’s not ww3 it’s not shifting gates. Sometimes when 3 teams keep fighting there is so much data that I get like 2fps

[barren sand]

Ice field near terminal = 0 fps

[spice ridge]

Yesterday we were fighting 3 other teams in a corner and it was close to the respawn point so no vexed killed only the player dropped. And it is the most chaotic sg i ever played

And it lasted for the entire game

[thorny frost]

They actually patched that. It now only recovers its set amount.

[upper gorge]

i was hoping for an Ogre face here

[glass needle]

IT.IS.A.HAPPY.LITTLE.ONION!!!!!!!!!!!

[tight talon]

Kinda sad. But was expected

[chrome kite]

İlk Ross

[twilit thistle]

Have u tried heir in there? This is something idk how to counter yet.

[thorny frost]

Yea, it honestly would be to broken for survival if it stayed. The weapon is already strong enough in PvP

[vapid ibex]

After reading all of Jaren’s dookie artifacts, this will be the meta artifacts for him

His super attribute on artifacts, will not be used as he already deals enough damage and the goal won’t be to finish the boss instantly, as in most calamities

Abilities, Signature, Weapon damage, solar. Will be what you’ll be aiming for

[tight talon]

Ayo peak.

How about Blazer in Slot III since we already get lotta Overshield from Slot I

[twilit thistle]

I have no idea what these do. At this point, for me, he’s gonna be rocking the most generic artifacts I can find. That’s been my goal, building universally compatible sets for arc and solar. (I will grab them for testing tho, if I have time. Pvp testing)

[vapid ibex]

No because by having the last 2 as they are, you’ll always have a 100% damage boost when using first signature. Which in turn, skill 1 killing 6 ads guaranteed every time will provide you with max overshield basically at any given time

Skill 1 gives you overshield by doing anything, skill 2 activates by default the moment skill 1 is active. So having an overshield will always be active, and giving you a higher % overshield base

[dense rapids]

Why is T6 $300-$400?

[vapid ibex]

So just using your signature skill on a crowd of yellows will give you max overshield, and you’ll have your signature skill ready again in 2 seconds

[night spoke]

Would siphoning even let the signature draw ability count as AOE? since its technically one shot at the target each might be some funky business and just say its not aoe 🤷‍♂️

[vapid ibex]

AOE just refers to dealing damage to more than one target, and it’s not his guns ammo, it’s completely separate. So yeah it’s counted as AOE

[chrome kite]

Enjoy watching

[leaden epoch]

Sorry are you referring to the ones currently available or did details about any new artifacts coming with him also come out?

[empty kettle]

https://discord.com/channels/1267806213656023071/1268182093268123761

[vapid ibex]

They already came out, and absolutely dog water, the damage bonus ones are 25% max after using your dash ability, which is pointless and unusable with any other unit, so just having an artifact that activates damage bonus by using any ability is better

Basically artifact 4 says “attempting to blind a unit grants you 25% damage bonus” aka using 2nd skill gives you 25% damage bonus. But like, why… when it’s a movement ability and there’s literally an artifact that gives you 80% damage bonus when you activate a movement ability

[leaden epoch]

Thanks will check the video out. Looks like it covers everything. I was wondering if Last Word would be worth it as I feel like most of the battlepass weapons have basically been replaced or never been the best option. Helhest and Trinity Ghoul, Estela going from Furies to Gallows/Heir (this may be debatable just seems like a lot of people are going this way).

[vapid ibex]

It’s REALLY good

The weapon catalyst especially with last catalyst is literally “hey take 40% reload speed and 60% damage bonus at ALL times”

Then stack the other damage bonuses that come with the other catalysts

[leaden epoch]

Any thoughts on substats for these?

[leaden epoch]

Cool, sounds like they are starting to roll out stronger BP weapons.

[vapid ibex]

Solar, Weapon damage, abilities, signature.

Super is only necessary for Gwynn because her ult does 0 damage lol.

[twilit thistle]

🫠 why is heir so strong?

[vapid ibex]

But his ult is pretty strong already, adding super substat is overkill. You don’t actually wanna kill the calamity boss right away lol

Oh also one of the catalysts makes it so he basically does precision damage without hitting a precision shot

[hoary kiln]

Because it is a parent
And parents are the strongest

[hard forge]

How do leakers get access to new data

[empty kettle]

I don't think we are allowed to discuss that in this chat

[leaden epoch]

Thanks, what about 1 & 2 spots?

[true mauve]

These are netease given to CC for sneak peeks
#videos-and-streams message

[vapid ibex]

Shield health overshield and last ones up to you, could be ranged since his playstyle is long ranged despite it seeming like he’s close range, or elemental

[vocal hawk]

Leaks? No.
The Jaren stuff is different. That's not a leak, that's official previews with partnered content creators.

[leaden epoch]

Thanks, will also check out the video when I have time

[ancient pewter]

Nice we getting the last word

[empty kettle]

Not that, data about some characters and some content that isn't publicly available for anyone besides the devs

[ancient pewter]

At least the first user of it

[vapid ibex]

What yall think new patch notes going to consist of? I think Jaren ward + release of the other gold bundles

[vocal hawk]

Dawning is supposed to be starting soon.

[granite tundra]

That will get you T2 not T6

[lofty gale]

Wtf

[leaden epoch]

Are people thinking for this cycle use the void shotgun for calamity and the solar shotgun for expanse or solar for both?

[devout horizon]

Can’t wait to use Jolder for calamity

[modest plume]

I think I'm done spending money for awhile

[devout horizon]

Nah

[rigid pagoda]

How long do you think i can farm with 60 overclocked capacitor and 1200 energy

[devout horizon]

A while

[rigid pagoda]

I must have more I want infinite energy

[twilit thistle]

There better not be more gold bundles 😭 no more prof farming pls.

[indigo solar]

I haven't even used Estela in sg

[dusty spire]

Premium progression lol

[twilit thistle]

Compi keeps melting me with it 😞

I have yet to test izi with it but I tried getting a nucleus from compi, via gaze and ult. It didn’t not do enough. Next test is izi, which is a challenge because I get melted in the time it takes me to ads 🫠

[hoary kiln]

Shoot without ads
Problem solved

I enable ad block when playing (it actually does something)

[dusty spire]

This is me lol

Finnala carry me again

[indigo solar]

Idk if you're making a joke or misunderstood what they're saying

[modest plume]

Debating on building Kabr

[naive ingot]

👀 you can carry my goth...

[twilit thistle]

I will ensure you are carried.

[naive ingot]

Though I've been upgrading the solar mythic shotgun

[dusty spire]

I’m thinking arc warlock next that uses sword lol

[covert sluice]

Shiiiii we already got 2

[icy mist]

fire in the hole!

[twilit thistle]

Same. I have it all prepared

[icy mist]

nope nope an nope

[glass needle]

meh might dismantle

[icy mist]

I've me girl, t6 fully vamp but I'm getting vexed

[twilit thistle]

To be fair it’s a joke. But you should have seen it, compi was in aero, and just walked around the corner. I was in the portal. Idk if heir has damage falloff

[naive ingot]

Say offensive Arc warlock. Stormcaller or Chaos Reach because the others get comfuddled

[icy mist]

Estelle is a g, she clatters

[glass needle]

rerelease gwynn and i’ll drop $1k right now for netease

[icy mist]

arc, void ok she plays

[short locust]

ROFL

[naive ingot]

Tbf they might have too, and Estela.

[glass needle]

only Gwynn. she’s all that matters in the game

[willow otter]

First time I pulled two exotics

[naive ingot]

From Thursday when Impact is back on the menu...

[twilit thistle]

Already have a t6 Gwynn sadly. (That t6 being @naive ingot and not being something I actually own.)

[willow otter]

I wish Gwynn came back she’s the only character I’m missing 😭😭😭

[glass needle]

my first run in the raid when it was released i got got the exotics lol 😂 the people i was playing with were annoyed lol

[naive ingot]

Yeah, I'm a T6

[willow otter]

I hope Gwynn returns

[glass needle]

she’s all that matters in the game. the rest suck

[icy mist]

I say re release the bundles X

[willow otter]

I want her

[glass needle]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-23254765

[indigo solar]

Flashback to the time I thought a Kabr super in a dev vid was chaos reach

The dev vid in question:

[naive ingot]

No way, Kabr can't fire that fire

[bitter estuary]

finally (i got hard carried from exp 1 to master 1 but whatever)

[gusty fossil]

Who in the dev team think it funny to show Rossi again in the card vendor?

[twilit thistle]

I hope shotguns get buffed in PvP. Haven’t seen my hunter since 2020, I recall having both Cerberus +1 and a shotgun equipped last time I logged in. Shotguns seem weak in comparison on DR.

[modest flax]

am i tripping or the new artifacts that are about to drop seem a bit underwhelming ?

[gusty fossil]

Also buff bow too

[bitter estuary]

why kabr doing the miku miku beam 💔

[hasty ocean]

Tbh I might I don't think Lucky fireteam event is worth it unless u have crazy amount of Luck

[twilit thistle]

All the sweaty hellhests just melt u with RC 😭 u hear the first shot, then ur whole fireteam is respawning

[gusty fossil]

Still the bow just not worth the hassle

[bitter estuary]

chaperone does 0 dmg in pvp 🥀

[indigo solar]

What was that

[hasty ocean]

Deals 400 on Iron medley event (only If u have godly aim)

[indigo solar]

His super goes 70m

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar why are shotguns so bad 🥺 I don’t understand them enough to complain

[indigo solar]

They just suck in PvP, they're decent in pve. Why they suck in PvP I couldn't tell you

[bitter estuary]

and then you see the reticle to see that only 1/4 of the pellets hit the enemy even if you’re close to them

i’m having fortnite flashbacks

[twilit thistle]

Do they shoot actual pellets?

[indigo solar]

Most do, afaik chappy is the only slug rn

[twilit thistle]

In d2, u just.. get close, fire, and whatever let u get that close respawns. No wonder Ning was meta for PvP

[bitter estuary]

chaperoni is the only gun that feels nice to play bc it someone does damage and not waste too much heavy ammo unlike er which somehow needs to take me 2~4 hits to do

[indigo solar]

Yeah no it takes like three shots to kill someone now, unless you use octant's explosion (haven't played with it post nerf either, possible you need a hit for it to kill now too)

[hasty ocean]

Og Fortnite pov: When u accidentally broke a tree when it was already 50hp which revealed ur duos location and some random ahh guy does a 360 headshot snipe on a rpg on ur duo

[hoary kiln]

I know ads is aimdown sights

I was joking about advertisements
And ad block actually does prevent some popups from working in-game

Fun fact: this area is considered an ad in-game

[bitter estuary]

pros: they vaulted rpgs for snipers
cons: snipers

i love snipers but hate getting sniped by them esp when a “rare” one is a one hit kill and is accessible early game

[hasty ocean]

This is so true

[bitter estuary]

chapter 7 experience (all the guns are crap btw)

[twilit thistle]

Technically that would make snipers better than chaperone. It’s really easy on pc to simply headshot without ads. I have managed to do it to @true mauve but only once on touch. I was to a point on pc where I wasn’t even using ADS, but only for a week or so.

[naive ingot]

At close range they don't kill one hit in pvp

[indigo solar]

Yeah I know what makes them suck, I don't know why they chose to make them suck

[covert sluice]

Time to kill is generally pretty slow in this game but some things really just kill u instantly lol and you'd think shotguns WOULD be one of them

[bitter estuary]

i tried controller, the lock in to target is easy, same with touch and tbh the snipers feel better than shotguns in pvp (though i might need to use a different macro/back button setup so it’s more optimal on controller)

maybe because you need to get so close in order to do a significant amount of damage, plus trying to get the target right inside the reticle

[indigo solar]

Instead it's a purple sniper

Somehow the strongest heavy in the game, 2 kills per spawn and completely instant

[bitter estuary]

actually wait, lemme test the purple shotgun, if the legendary sniper is that great

[covert sluice]

Snipers are definitely crazy in PvP generally speaking

[indigo solar]

The legendary is good because it's the only aggressive frame sniper. We have a mythic aggressive shotgun already

[covert sluice]

Yeah it's the frame and the perks I believe

[bitter estuary]

is it the thermopylae?

[indigo solar]

IST2 Niaatiks

[bitter estuary]

with what perks

[vapid ibex]

People are going to use the new solar shotgun for Jaren but honestly I think eternal retribution is better, and it’s also void so you’ll have dual elements. You’ll likely only use shotgun to bust elites which will already have the shield down so, even though I have 87 möbius clusters I’m not gonna upgrade the Thermopylae

[exotic apex]

Can't wait to try the new character

[dusty spire]

Morgan hunt several targets will pop up and need to be put down within a certain amount of time this is a task I’m thinking will be for jaren

[twilit thistle]

The only sniper I use is izi. Agail often leaves a little bit of health in sg. Too many times. Idc if it’s less shots, I don’t need into kill someone. I need it to delete someone. (Most of the players know me well enough to fear the scout rifle tho)

Also did I just see someone say 87 clusters 😳 I wish I had that much self control.

[stark forge]

would the old prefect works well with jaren ?

[indigo solar]

Honestly going to depend on how it interacts with super but I'm leaning towards no, he needs precision damage and prefect deals less precision than other hand cannons

[stark forge]

aight ima dump all exo cores on it now

[pulsar coral]

anyone else think last word is really mid for pve? planning on using the old prefect instead

[indigo solar]

Will depend on damage, but could be quite strong, especially because "reload" effects like the one from his dash don't necessarily count as reloading for everything, so c3 may not even be necessary

[short locust]

It's meant to get stacks of Stag due to its RPM

[pulsar coral]

i main maru so im planning on using the BP to max out her drill catalyst. prefect is also a solid option for dealing with impact shinkas.

[indigo solar]

He... he has a shotgun...

You've got a better argument for crimson letting him deal with rapids

[pulsar coral]

yes, and?

[indigo solar]

So why does he need a primary to do that

[pulsar coral]

i was also considering crimson it seems like a decent option

weapons that can deal with multiple shinka types have a leg up on other options

[upbeat forge]

Will the weekly xp cap reset on part 2 season 2 or carry over?

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[agile spindle]

Jaren damage numbers are not looking good

[true mauve]

Chappy for precision shinkas bro, cmon fr

[vocal hawk]

People thought Maru's damage numbers looked bad in the preview too and then release proved otherwise

[indigo solar]

I don't expect crimson to do well for the same reason as prefect, low numbers plus would be bad in super since damage per shot is ~40% of normal hc damage per shot

[stark forge]

ppl expecting helhest dmg numbers on every char

[pulsar coral]

wait, his super uses weapon damage scaling??? holy heck that's bad

[bitter estuary]

crimson has reload upon killing an ad

so that alone would make up for being a weaker weapon, plus its a primary

[indigo solar]

wdym bad that's amazing

[true mauve]

Its a sad shotty, way sad shotty. Havnt used octant post nerf but its always used as a 6+ shot volley anyways for Gwynn orbs lets be real and a 8shot volley would eat through a full health maxed overshield lightbearer in PvP. Chaperone is doing 690 on a headshot that leaves just enough to punch or ability and kill

[pulsar coral]

you literally just said crimson does a third of the damage of an hc shot, how is that not bad...

[bitter estuary]

thanks for reminding me again that the octant got nerfed wow

[agile spindle]

Maru has a lot of aoe. Jaren is almost all single target

[true mauve]

Parole and Chaperone all you need. Synco buffs every 4th shot, will be amaze for his sig and super abilities

[indigo solar]

oh I thought you were saying it was bad in general that his super uses weapon scaling, not that crimson is bad because of it

[stark forge]

jaren got aimbot spam

[frigid kraken]

What crack are you smoking 😭 pls tell me how you arrive to that conclusion. We are over here saying his numbers are on par with helehst

[short locust]

Crimson would really just push stag stack build up to refresh the grenade, but you'd cook your super for that. TLW is a solid middle ground between that and using and exotic Shotty

[bitter estuary]

lets wait and see, but will take that tip

[pulsar coral]

yeah it benefitting from weapon damage buffs is pretty good especially if it double dips with ability damage boosts. it just makes crimson and prefect a no-go cause of how those guns do their dmg

[vocal hawk]

Was this confirmed?

I haven't been able to watch videos yet

[agile spindle]

he would be doing 30% of Helhest damage

[true mauve]

The Mythic shotguns take 3-5 hits to kill in PvP all 3 of them are so bad. Niiatiks is worst because of fire rate so slow

[pulsar coral]

Does Jaren look f2p friendly?

[short locust]

It might be subject to change. Maru changed a tiny bit from early access to release

[frigid kraken]

If anything’s her numbers was really really good, just that when she came out, due to the barrage modifiers and her ability not showing up to the numbers. It was thought that she was bad. But more fully built with right stats. She’s on par with helehst

[pulsar coral]

Saw the gameplay and I thought T1 should be good enough for any f2p

[bitter estuary]

pls give free fruits for the dawning festival 🙏

[frigid kraken]

Where the helehst inflation dude at. This guy need a checkup

[vocal hawk]

20 black market coins, take it or leave it

[lavish carbon]

it'd be nice if the pack fruits refresh and not be a one time buy

[indigo solar]

soft confirmation, early access build says "alternate between firing his equipped Hand Cannon and Vows." Early access builds are known to change tho and it could also mean it just consumes primary ammo but still deals the same super damage

[frigid kraken]

@fallow swallow

[vocal hawk]

Noted

[true mauve]

Wu Mang got da boats

[pulsar coral]

jaren f2p friendly?

[bitter estuary]

67 glimmer (99.8% chance) for full fireteam event but now its 6 players and everyone has to play a full cycle of onslaught from start to finish

[true mauve]

Sure why not

[stark forge]

friendly if u hoard mats

[pulsar coral]

Yeah I got 5000 leaves saved with 20 pulls left until guaranteed i think i can get T1

[vocal hawk]

This section is individual
I've seen boats in every single black market, some people have not

[true mauve]

As friendly as any new lightbearer

[frigid kraken]

Any unit is f2p friendly if u don’t care what other people say

[true mauve]

Carry me cal ops, my rossi is goat trust

[solar viper]

Every character is friendly

[pulsar coral]

True just some talents make the character far more broken than their base form

[stark forge]

every unit is friendly until they farm exo guns

[bitter estuary]

so true im gonna run finnala for next patch's expanse 😍

[boreal venture]

i havent seen boats since like helhest released lmao

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/isnt-even-my-final-form-gif-11810117

[frigid kraken]

If that was the case ngl, you shoudla pulled Maru. She was probably one of the most f2p friendly unit (but you still needed to max her primary exotic)

[twilit thistle]

The shotgun is actually better at a range, about mid to close, but too close is primary. He probably won’t be useful in PvP. I assume this calamity ops will cause you to take damage if you use arc. Whatever MythicNexus has nightmares about. He will likely be useful in there, but not PvP, yet.

[lucid schooner]

Anyone knows how to make your bio colored in game

[pulsar coral]

I did get Maru, I have her at 67k but she is T0
I pulled maru on my 3rd pull actually i got really lukcky

[devout horizon]

You still want t1 for her

[frigid kraken]

Yeah t0 is fine, but you do kinda need max primary exotic

[pulsar coral]

72k T2 maru here

[pulsar coral]

Ill be able to get cat 1 by december end

[frigid kraken]

Yeah the 2nd charge is nice but not needed, just need to use her blast according and not spam (ofc in calamity you need the 2 charge)

[pulsar coral]

Shoot that reminds me I gotta get out of the master 1 relegation zone I cant have my ning fei sitting around doing nothing

[true mauve]

Shottya have 2 ranges. Octant/void solar mythic is like 20 meter or less; chappy/mythic arc goes to 35/40 meter, sidearms go to 50meters, hand cannons go to 50+ iirc

[solar viper]

No big deal, I'm T0, 64k damage, and I can handle Grandmaster pretty well too.

[pulsar coral]

Yeah I mainly pulled Maru just to have fun, not because I wanted to grind competitive
Just needed a good enough spread for stuff like clearing expanse in 8 min

[twilit thistle]

Better to just use it once then swap.

[pulsar coral]

Because my 70k jolder is NOT cutting it with the spread damage

[true mauve]

Too slow, best bet is chappy pray for 1 headshot and melee or throw abilitt

Or octant burst 8volley

[winged lintel]

I wonder if chaperone will be the real meta for Jaren

[twilit thistle]

After the backlash over TG, I doubt it

[winged lintel]

Yeah i mean the trailer did do a good job of making the last word look real good, but still its just a trailer. TG was just never going to work lol

I might wait a day before maxing TLW just in case there's a clear better meta

[stark forge]

prefect eternal will be meta

[calm vortex]

and im in the whole it feels wrong not using Last Word on Jaren even if there ends up being better options

[winged lintel]

I see there's new artifacts coming with jaren, most of them look nice tbh

[calm vortex]

Jaren is pretty well off though between both Shotguns and Handcannons theres one of every element

[true mauve]

Some kind of abuse on his reload mechanic + Octant for rapid fire

[twilit thistle]

I usually don’t touch anything until I see taniks claiming to have found the meta. Taniks is op

[winged lintel]

That's probably fair lol

[true mauve]

@twilit thistle @indigo solar Octant nerf. It does 549 with 6 shots, thats 91.5 each. 8 shot volley would do 732 and not even 1 shot but it says dmg increases as number of shots in volley. So a 8shot volley should do 750ish and 1hit still.

[winged lintel]

Dang i got to triumph score 3760 but I can really only do 1 more thing rn, the stupid power cut one during the boss fight

[twilit thistle]

I will be sure to forward this to my Gwynn. (I think it’s a little late for eu)

[indigo solar]

note that they have 50% damage resistance on hp so it's actually 598 damage, and you need 1000 to kill

[solar viper]

I hope the entire series”D1,D2,DR”is all Taniks

[white fossil]

excited for jaren

havent even thought about golden gun since i played og destiny its gonna be so great

[true mauve]

Dang, they ruined partridge sky also

[twilit thistle]

This inspired me to add it to my keyboard. The word is now replaced with Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN]

[devout horizon]

Do they have the 50% damage res if you were to 1 shot them from full shields? Is it accounted into the damage equation

[indigo solar]

yes

the only thing the health being 250 with 50% dr vs 500 affects is total health-based effects

[true mauve]

Chappy does ((690 - 500)/2)+500=880

[devout void]

i didnt try gwynn today , skip if shotgun dont one shot

[cyan tide]

It needs like 3 shots lol

[devout void]

when is Fellwinter

[true mauve]

Chappy is best, I will go record a clip

[devout void]

thanks

[upbeat forge]

How do you get exotic mods?

[devout horizon]

Random chance iirc

[cyan tide]

Master/GM key chests, frontlines, strikes/blitz pinnacle rewards

[devout void]

chappy is meta, even for pve i can see the potential

[twilit thistle]

It’s not meta. Octant is the only one I’ve died to

[compact crescent]

Just saw Jaren's Emergency Evasion reloads both weapons by 100% on cast. 👀

Also gives both DR and Movement for the Artifact.

[twilit thistle]

🤔 weird. I can’t wait to see all the jarens In sg. It’ll be like open season

[weak ginkgo]

He will have some crazy dmg for sure

[vocal hawk]

That artifact seems made specifically for emergency evasion

Like... genuinely, does any other movement ability give DR and Speed?

[true mauve]

Nings clone iirc

[compact crescent]

You could also wear a conditional DR Artifact on Helhest.

[vocal hawk]

...sorta?
Being near the clones is what gives that, and the effect persists when leaving their range

[naive ingot]

Yeah, I logged out of the game a while ago. I need sleep 😆 🤣

[devout void]

gg funny, but a bit pathetic that we have to struggle so much with a shotgun

[vocal hawk]

Ah, I misremembered what the Perturbation artifact does

Thought it said specifically movement ability

[devout void]

waiting

[naive ingot]

YES!!!

[vocal hawk]

But it's having DR and speed at the same time where the source is your own abilities

Clones will work for that

[calm vortex]

Depending if the 3rd Artifacts procs from Artifact bonuses triggered by abilities like some of them a couple characters could use the Movespeed+DR one but it would way too jank to upkeep on them

[pulsar coral]

Calamity is insanely dry today

I've had an average queue time of 3 minutes

[devout void]

its very active when you look for people, nobody want waste attempt in matchmaking i think

[vocal hawk]

It does say that the source of those effects have to be your own abilities, but artifacts are jank so who knows

[hidden carbon]

Blink and slide shotty reigned supreme for so long in d1 and d2

[calm vortex]

Cause we already have artifacts that only activate from your own abilities with the same wording but will still count Artifact perks IF they were proc'd by an ability

[hidden carbon]

If they fleshed out a permanent pvp mode we would have people just logging on to run pvp again

[lilac sparrow]

im sure this topic comes alot but do yall think there will ever be an official PC port? I was kinda hoping so cause Once Human got it, but it would be awesome for a steam port given how much Destiny 2: Renegades sucks

[pulsar coral]

If you mean posting LFGs and listings I've been donig that and still not much luck

[vocal hawk]

A big hanging question for me is if abilities that grant Overshield will count

Overshields, according to the game, have innate DR

[lilac sparrow]

And sure, I haven't played it, but I know a sell-out cheap-cash-grab when I see it....

[hidden carbon]

A pc port would probably directly compete with destiny 2 so bungie probably won’t allow it

[lilac sparrow]

yeah ik Im just hopeful

[lilac sparrow]

Destiny went from one of my favorite games to something Idk I'll ever touch again; I have as much hours on steam as I did when they still had the bungie launcher

[devout void]

yea its hard to find a decent team, for EMEA we have our own LFG with good players

[calm vortex]

Im more interested in Slot 1 and Slot 4 though, 38% DR with an effective 100% uptime in combat considering its proc condition and a 25% Generic damage buff for blinding a target

[devout void]

What's the difference? The game runs perfectly, but it would give them some publicity to put it on Steam while also launching it on Mumu.

[cyan tide]

Slot 1 doesn't seem that much better than resolute conjunction

3% more dr but with a condition

[pulsar coral]

I wish

[lilac sparrow]

using an emulator can be annoying but like the bigger importance is being able to use steam friends lists, content sharing, community features, and accessibility.

Like if you're not a destiny fan to begin with, I feel its more likely you'd see Rising if it were on steam

[devout void]

also yes, Bungie dont want let rising go pc or even console

[calm vortex]

If they do an official PC client, its gonna be a while, from gauging interest to just the fact its a larger pain in the butt than you'd think to getting a PC client for a game approved in CN

[compact crescent]

Jaren got auto weakspot aim with regular weapons on top of everything lol.

[calm vortex]

Cause I guarantee you Bungie isnt the one stopping the PC client from being a thing

[cyan tide]

Gotta lower the skill ceiling for players who use touchscreen

Also for me cause I suck at aiming

[devout void]

At first I thought it would be complicated, but if you download it from their website, the game launches directly as an application without having to configure Mumu or download the game, the same for their Chinese version. I don't know if it's changed, but when the game was released I downloaded Mumu alone + the Google Play Store, then the game itself

[lilac sparrow]

yeah I know, I just know Once Human(a game NetEase had on PC before mobile) was ported so Ig I just am hoping the infrastructure and technicaly knowhow, as well as legal precedence, helps with it

[lilac sparrow]

I've played it on the emulator, I just mean annoying in that its yet another launcher I have to download

[twilit thistle]

It’s in the contract. Netease bought a house, bungie/sony are the landlords. They could say “ban every player whose name starts with “A” and netease would have to listen.

That being said Sony is not happy with the state of bungie, and if netease can revive this game…. There’s hope

[calm vortex]

Basically every game has a launcher these days and yes its annoying, even games going through steam its just launching a launcher to launch the game half the time

Mumu is also NetEase's in-house emulator so its about as official as your gonna get

[devout void]

Once the game launches with 144 fps, HD textures, and ultra quality, you forget it's an emulator.

[lilac sparrow]

Idk if I agree with that maybe Im just a hater though idk

[twilit thistle]

Hopefully Sony notices how much better it is than d2

[calm vortex]

Im still gonna say unless you have direct access to their contracts, that its likely not due to a contractual obligation, but hell yeah Sony got upsold super hard and its hilarious

[devout void]

I never noticed that Wolf's Den has a stadium with the New Monarchy flag; they should add the factions and make them useful like in Destiny 1, with emblems and shaders

[spare blaze]

Hello

[vocal hawk]

"attempting to blind" is interesting wording

Might be an extremely forgiving artifact

[calm vortex]

that or its just worded like that cause some enemies are immune to blind

[vocal hawk]

It's probably that

But the confined artifact doesn't have that wording and still works on enemies immune to crowd control

[calm vortex]

Cause theres some jank to it since Confined is still applied to them as a debuff it just doesnt stop their movement

its just there to make sure the artifacts arent completely useless on Bosses and other enemies immune to some CC effects, its nice

[true mauve]

PvP some lightbearers are immune to crowd control, Jaren for example does this immunity

Its like he was designed to be his own counter

[devout void]

i dont see something better than valiant veil for jarren ? lets just change element of our ning fei artifact

[cyan tide]

Attempting to blind gives me the impression that it'll work even if you don't hit enemies with the ability

[past flame]

Correct u don’t even need it to hit

[calm vortex]

Veil or Obstructing depends on how long Jaren's super takes to dump into a target for me cause Obstructing lasts 3 seconds longer

[true mauve]

Its funny it took an Octant, Mahamayuri, Partridge Sky, and RC nerf to ensure Jaren does good

[vocal hawk]

I'm doubtful this is the case. As was just mentioned it's likely if an enemy would be immune to blind (such as a boss)

[cyan tide]

The new set should be better if it triggers without hitting enemies since it has longer uptime

[vocal hawk]

But it's weird wording

[calm vortex]

we'll find out when it releases in a couple days

[winged lintel]

I might still use unrelenting evolution in slot 2

[cyan tide]

I just think the wording is weird if that's the case, as you said the confined artifact doesn't have that clarification

[true mauve]

Slot 1 and 3 for sure. Ability includes weapon mastery 😜

[stone niche]

Does anything happen if I get all event fish shiny?

[devout void]

seem nice

[cyan tide]

Do you need to use piercing weapons to get the overshield?

[twilit thistle]

Street cred

[true mauve]

No

Chappy shotgun does precision dmg

[devout void]

so we go last word or chappy

[cyan tide]

Have you tested it? Artifacts tied to weapon types can be weird sometimes

[winged lintel]

It doesnt say its tied to piercing though, just says precision damage by weapons

[calm vortex]

Every weapon does precision damage except LGLs and GLs but from my testing the character actually has to be able to use Piercing Weapons for it to proc

[winged lintel]

Im so sick of descriptions being so unclear or incorrect

[open mason]

can boss also get status effects like blind, confined, etc?

[calm vortex]

To be fair when you try to equip it on a character that doesnt have a Piercing Weapon it says this

[cyan tide]

The rapid fire set doesn't specify it has to be with a rapid fire weapon either but it doesn't work with other weapon types

[winged lintel]

Yeah someone else commented about that....dang this game is shooting itself in the foot in so many ways

[cyan tide]

Is Rossi the only character with piercing and one other weapon type?

I want to test that set but I don't have him

[true mauve]

Mahamayuri coughs up Overshield, cant test with Shotty. Characters need the tag to activate artifact

[calm vortex]

Yeah it works on Rossi but only final blows from the Bow, it wont proc from Crossbows

[true mauve]

I use it in SG

[cyan tide]

Getting conflicting info

[true mauve]

We live 2 diff lives

[vocal hawk]

Did just realize that a character having multiple weapon archetypes means they're flexible with artifact builds

Moreso than a mono type

[calm vortex]

Especially Jaren having 2 weapon types and both of those types has access to every element too

but yeah im testing it right now and I dont get any overshields from the artifact when I get a kill with the crossbow

[cyan tide]

So no overshield build

[calm vortex]

Actually that reminds me I have to test if the Stacking detonation effects on the Mythic Crossbows can proc Blazar

[true mauve]

Another shadow patch, I just tested it also and no work now. Swore it did in SG though last season 👀

[calm vortex]

So it doesnt work with the crossbow detonation or any of his signatures but Blazar 2 does proc from his Weapon mastery

it also triggers from his Talent 1

[vocal hawk]

So, artifacts with weapon tags only work on those weapon types?

Genuinely interesting

[calm vortex]

Not all the time, some of them do work even if they tell you they wont, like Blazar slot 4

[devout void]

i wish they put a desperado perks like D2 on pulse for pvp

[calm vortex]

likely a bug but who knows when they'd fix it

[vocal hawk]

Desperado is a fun perk

DR also isn't afraid to mess with the firing rate in weird ways

Look at Fire Rush and the fact that RPM is a mod stat

[devout void]

i was watching old clip with Desperado, but after that they nerf it, understandable

[true mauve]

@twilit thistle where the sg queue? Been dead for a week

These best for Jaren eh?

[naive ingot]

I didn't just check to see if I wasn't in that match then lol

[pulsar coral]

Is founder bundle worth the $20 for the extra 10 pulls and extra pinnicale energy

[devout void]

no mostly bot

[naive ingot]

I used to play a bit of crucible before.... yeah

[devout void]

this season was very good, i wish rising pvp was just as fast and aggressive, with a decent shotgun

[naive ingot]

I only played iron banner, mayhem or team scorched for a fair few seasons. Last year, major health scare meant it was PvE in the end.

[twilit thistle]

It’s too strict. I spend my days getting mowed down by ppr and compi, or other fireteams of 3. Fun times. Have you run into these heir wielding Estella’s yet?

[wraith scaffold]

back when trials was actually fun

[devout void]

play a lot of trials during this era yea, but desperado dont really work against good player, it was all about hand cannon

[true mauve]

There is no stopping them, even if you get close enough estella just heals a bunch

[keen urchin]

Im confused why this game continues to nerf characters that people essentially pay for.

[calm vortex]

I wonder if Heir has the same drawback it does in D2 where if you pop it with an Arc weapon you just explode, and if it does Sympathetic detonation against it would be hilarious

[twilit thistle]

If they see you, you are already dead. Compi will melt you across the map. It’s faster to die to that, than it was the original maha. I think it’s stronger than Xenophage pre nerf. Ppr has a habit of finding me when there is only 1 terminal, and sitting on it with a super/spun up heir.

[glass needle]

OHHHHH NOOOOO 🌮 🌮 🌮

[velvet swan]

Hey guys

[past flame]

Hi

[twilit thistle]

Hi

[raw glade]

Time to get busy

[past flame]

What’s good! What we thinking which shotgun is the best for jaren 🤔

[worldly hazel]

Mommy

[twilit thistle]

Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN] has not made a decision that I am aware of at this time.
(Same person who made the pachinko prophecy for maru)

[past flame]

Indeed… but I think I won’t use them yet tbh until they’re 12/12 to gild the seal

[twilit thistle]

Better start saving those keys. 👀 new season next month.

[past flame]

The goat of eggplant!

[cobalt fulcrum]

Why was i muted for 167 hours without any warning

[past flame]

Oof i wonder which set of artifacts would be the best too

[past flame]

Welp so the new set that dropped obviously for him

[twilit thistle]

No idea, I am not a solar main. Mine will be likely using tan’s, which are just extra damage if he has a shield 😂

[calm vortex]

My biggest question will be if Jaren's super can benefit from weapon traits and boosts since he dual wields your actual gun with Vow or if thats just gonna be purely visual

[vocal hawk]

Snowballs on sparrows?!

[fiery musk]

Think it's time I disable some pings...

[vocal hawk]

Combat racing?

[vocal hawk]

It is so unclear right now

[past flame]

Sounds fun

[teal mantle]

I would like to shoot people off their sparrows with snowballs.

[humble jacinth]

Childrens shadow shaper card games on sparrows

[glass needle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-funny-my-crush-gif-3428194

[glass needle]

https://tenor.com/view/i100percent-agree-with-that-kaley-thompson-the-cowboy-way-i-agree-with-that-i-agree-with-that-one-hundred-percent-gif-17861676

[fiery musk]

:/

[glass needle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-will-not-allow-it-dr-frasier-crane-frasier-i-won't-let-it-happen-i-won't-permit-it-gif-11285072691170322210

[fiery musk]

I have unfounded hope that Season 4 will have exceeding quality, and will be back for that.

[raw glade]

Over a T6 Estela is crazy. I only ever play Ning for grandmaster lol So good though

[fiery musk]

Why is your UI like that?

[raw glade]

Using playcover on mac can mess with the UI a bit. It's set to iPAD

[fiery musk]

Weird.

[glass needle]

https://tenor.com/view/traitor-gif-21942304

[raw glade]

the only issue I ever encounter is actually on this screen. So not a big deal

[glass needle]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-stitch-lilo-and-stitch-rain-raining-gif-15454054

[fiery musk]

I can't keep running the same content, man. :/

[glass needle]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-stitch-lilo-and-stitch-disney-sad-emotional-gif-7593012698990689770

[fiery musk]

Good news, I've built up 60 pulls. So I can get whoever the Season 4 drop is.

[raw glade]

Skipping Jaren?

[glass needle]

https://tenor.com/view/stitch-throw-book-gif-10576226

[wise siren]

Whats everyone doing today

[fiery musk]

Yep

[wise siren]

@fiery musk heyy

[fiery musk]

Hello.

[wise siren]

How you doing

[fiery musk]

Just had some curry. Chilling to a book and browsing all the fanart coming out for the new character announced for Arknights.

[worldly hazel]

🍆

[raw glade]

Maybe I'll actually stay in Master for the first time. Probably not though.

[cursive stone]

Hey everyone im new

[raw glade]

Welcome, new.

[fiery musk]

Zone 6. Fascinating.

[dusk socket]

can someone send the pack hunt map? NA server

[fiery musk]

That means there's a Zone 3 for Master 2.

[wise siren]

Welcome we are so glad to have you

[thorny frost]

Zone 1 currently is at like 400k for unchanged status XD

But zone 6 implies there are like 1,200 players currently in masters

[fiery musk]

Because of how many people have to get promoted to Master 2, this should mean there's 4 zones for Master 2, and 10 zones for Master 1.

[raw glade]

Oh, then I'm probably going back to expert 2.

Fortunately, I don't really care much anymore. I have plenty of mats at this point!

[true mauve]

Idk what xenophage is. Estellas with Heir Apparent are just broken OP, simple as that they somehow dodged a nerf because she isnt super popular but tbf Octant and Partridge Sky werent popular either and got nerf. Maybe Heir/Estella is start of meta setting and Maru/Jaren are the first to open the gates

Wolf/Ning/Umeko can hang on but the gap is becoming less skill and more just OP character kits, hopefully it will balance. It is a gacha, creep happens

[worldly hazel]

Xeno is a D2 exotic LMG pretty solid gun

[true mauve]

Carry me.cal ops

[fiery musk]

No thanks. Only close friends can ask me to get back online right now.

[raw glade]

Weird way to put it lol

[true mauve]

Why lurk if no play?

[thorny frost]

I will trust you on that XD I haven’t looked into exactly how the rankings go beyond that. There are currently only 71 people in overseer tho, which I thought implied only 4 zones last cycle.

[true mauve]

Only 4 zones tell em bruh

[thorny frost]

Maybe not, zone 1 is vicious. You might luck out and it won’t jump to much in your zone. Likely hood tho is you will be sent into the zone 1-3 tho next season if you do stay.

[raw glade]

It's weird though, it's not like I deserve to stay in Master when there are so many with higher scores in other zones.

[thorny frost]

I actually did the math wrong XD 20 % would have been 40 per zone so 2 zones I think? Dang a lot more people are ranking up this cycle.

[fiery musk]

I'm keeping up with what's going on with the game. I want it to be good, and be a game I want to come back to play regularly. But it's not there for me yet. So I'm keeping an eye on it for when it is.

I'll probably give up on it if Season 4's "major version update" doesn't meet my expectations.

[true mauve]

Months of lurk not good for you

[raw glade]

Well, if you're at least keeping up with Calamity Ops, you'll have a ton of leaves for season 4

[fiery musk]

I'm not playing. XD

[raw glade]

You should at least do just enough to stay in Expert which is crazy easy

[fiery musk]

But I am sitting on 60 purple boats.

[raw glade]

You'll be happy when you have 30k+ leaves saved up

[thorny frost]

It is what it is, it gives others a “chance” of ranking up instead of always competing against the best in ranking. Master 2 and overseer is where the true competition is.

[wise siren]

Love leaves

[twilit thistle]

I think izi might be able to handle it. I hit ppr with it earlier. Xeno was an essentially an anti aircraft gun if I recall, I used to use it in gambit when i invaded.

[fiery musk]

That's another thing. If I'm not playing, Y'all don't have to compete with me. Lol

[raw glade]

Nah, I'd say there's true competition to stay in Master***. It's just not entirely whale territory.

[thorny frost]

That is fair, I am probably getting kicked out of masters this time as I only matchmaker currently for cal ops and 400 k seems like a long shot. Really as long as I stay around expert 2 tho I am happy, not to drastic between that and master.

[twilit thistle]

I should be in master next cycle. it was randoms. I did nothing, and got carried.

[thorny frost]

I think partridge got nerfed due to iron bar. I had some brutal Jolder with it there. But I believe Heir might get nerfed soon, Maha no longer has all the attention on it.

[worldly hazel]

NO ARGUING IN MY DISCORD SERVER

[hard forge]

Is the old prefect exotic any good

[worldly hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-alpha-wolf-alpha-wolf-the-weak-should-quiver-gif-17759401881362908244

[hard forge]

Or will it be irrelevant with the last words arrival

[mild gale]

Anyone know how I can get my hands on the “Sweet Business” gun for wolf? I’ve been trying to get it

[thorny frost]

This seems odd knowing how good you are in pvp.

[hard forge]

Gauntlet raids

[pulsar coral]

We're finally at unchanged in master i it took too long I'm at 385k and im 27 slots away from relegation

[hard forge]

I’ll trade u 3 sweet business for 1 Polaris lance

[mild gale]

Can you really do that? Loll

[hard forge]

U wanna be running smart bomb with wolf tho ngl

[pulsar coral]

Hopefully I can get to master ii tomorrow

[hard forge]

At least, I would. It’s a free exotic for him and also helps greatly with spread shinkas if u don’t have a spread character in team

[twilit thistle]

Never learned speed running. Also, can’t beat zombie, that’s the speed running Umeko

[mild gale]

Shoot! I’d make that trade in a heartbeat loll I have Polaris Lance

[true mauve]

Umeko is only hope, snipe while purple camo invis so they cant see you 🤣 💀

[hard forge]

I e been trying to get it forever now just won’t drop in haven ops

[true mauve]

The nerfs I refer to are PvP only, they hit all of the 1 shot weapons plus a wide known nuisance Mahama. They skipped over there recently buffed Heir and buffed Gallows more

[mild gale]

Devs needs to change gun drops honestly cus I’ve been seeing the same gun drops for about 2 months now

[true mauve]

If Heir Apparent and Gallows received PvP balances and Maru's shield the playing field would be good

[south cargo]

pvp needs alot more maps

[thorny frost]

O yea I know, I was referring to everyone was running Maha/Ning. They probably need more data before nerfing it, even as an Estela pvper I would be fine if they nerfed it. I am glad they did fix the bug where it ramped up shields stupidly with conversion artifact.

[south cargo]

i use estela in pvp, rarely see her

[twilit thistle]

Estella op af in iron bar.

[south cargo]

jolder seems op when i play against her

i use finnala in pvp also, had a 32-0 shifting gate match with her and in iron bar shes very tankey

[true mauve]

Finnala and Jolder to prone to being outmaneuvered. In a 1v3+ scenario they dont hold up. All lightbearers are good 1v1, but only a handful can win an all out brawl.

Also they have stupid long skill animations for no reason

Wolf, Ning, Umeko can all dash and have chance to outmaneuver. Maru has stupid overshield. Estella has stupid heals and damage. Everyone else can do good but with the amount of skill that would take you're better off playing one of the meta picks.

[worldly hazel]

Why your face is tattooed

[true mauve]

Jaren will have chance to outmaneuver and be another top pick, he has too many dashes and blinds

[true mauve]

Why isnt yours?

[worldly hazel]

I have 90% of my body hit. Just no face haha

[inland sky]

wen NA APAC EMEA servers merge

[inland sky]

face tatts > body tatts

[weak ginkgo]

Maybe march

[worldly hazel]

Worst take ever

[inland sky]

pvp is so ded, they'd better

[inland sky]

why is your body tattooed

[weak ginkgo]

They should’ve had 1 server as a whole. But they will get it done eventually

[worldly hazel]

Because I’m big bad boy 🐺🐶👺

[twilit thistle]

Not rlly. It’s very much alive

[true mauve]

No no its dead

[weak ginkgo]

In na yeah

[inland sky]

yea tell it to me in apac/emea........2 days in a row i cant get into sands or gates

[true mauve]

I cant find no games

Im NA

[worldly hazel]

Want me to handle this?

[compact crescent]

In NA every mode is dead.

[twilit thistle]

@hoary kiln I gave you a head start 😂

Also @inland sky I do it on both servers actually. 1 whale, 1 ftp

[hoary kiln]

I watched in horror as P4 shot the back right weak spot

[twilit thistle]

Lmao was it the finalla

[hoary kiln]

It was a tan

[coarse sparrow]

😭

[limber furnace]

Wait , there is another Mythic character coming, I wasted resources on The pirate girl and now this cowboy dude looks much better

[flint aurora]

If you play during the season, you should be guaranteed at least 1 copy

[limber furnace]

They introduced new characters too frequently. We don't have time to grind All the resources on time, so in a way you r obligated to invest money

[compact crescent]

People that got gaslighted into pulling for Maru after seeing Jaren's trailer:

[limber furnace]

This happened to me when I was trying to get Estella

[inland sky]

this must be your first gacha rodeo

[tight talon]

Almost 1 month before a new character releases and you think it's too quick?

[limber furnace]

Didn't have enough time to grind the resources,and when I did, she was gone

Not everyone play the game 8 hours a day lmao

[tight talon]

Whose talking about 8 hours dawg, you literally get 1000 leaves every 2 weeks for a gamemode that takes 5 mins to clear for leaderboards

[inland sky]

you are missing the point completely, nothign to do with playing the game 8 hours or 20 hours a day.

the rate at which banners are introduced in this game is significantly slower than most of the gachas out there

[hoary kiln]

the problem is that the resources are too few rather than the time to grind imo

[dusk socket]

can someone send me the pack hunt map of the week?

[true mauve]

$5 a month all it takes

[limber furnace]

Remember that not all players come from destiny 1 and 2, some , like me , r fresh players into the franchise

[tight talon]

[hoary spear]

[true mauve]

And spending BM token on boats

[true mauve]

D1 and D2 i didnt play either, they werent gachas though... this game is a gacha...

[inland sky]

$5 better spent on WWM 😛

[cyan tide]

Most gachas do 3 week banners and also often do 2 limited characters at the same time

[tight talon]

Destiny 1 and 2 are nothing like Destiny Rising. You could only get 9 pinnacle in an entire week in the mainline games while in Rising you get 120 energy every day

[limber furnace]

Is still hard to get stuff

[inland sky]

pretty much this..

[true mauve]

No, just do the stuff

[inland sky]

it's a gacha, that's how it is for F2P.
Unfortunately it's a case of get used to it or play something else.........not gonna lie

[compact crescent]

Encouraging players to never come back through fear of missing out content is a questionable practice not gonna lie. 😅