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The issue we're running into is that it's less specific than everybody thought (it's just weapon damage with overshield) and the game's warnings and wordings heavily imply the code is just missing a condition
Helhest isn't an Iron Wolf, she's a Crow
She's Felwinter's Iron Wolf
Introduces herself to Wolf as that
I should say isn't just an iron wolf
Fair
Like if we got Petra or Crow himself yall really think they'd be 4*?
Ikora is 4* so players have more access to her
I bet if we get future vanguard characters they'd be 5*
Not the floor, the enemy itself inside the cage
I did that
I hit an enemy, aiming so I hit the floor and not the cage, and the T1 didn't proc
I know it didn't proc because one enemy was still alive inside of the cage
Ohhhh wait, thread flow over penetrates. Thatās why it worked for me bc I didnāt throw at the floor, so it hit the back of the cage
I should say isn't just an iron wolf
Regardless though @vocal hawk , this is what I was initially testing. I wanted to make sure threads activated the explosion inside the cage, not just from outside.
Aaaa meant to copy message link where I said that
I showed all three scenarios I discuss in this video
@lofty gale
She is not more powerful than Ikora anyways
Ik, i am talking lore
Ikora is one of the weakest ingame
So yea, as long as TF touches the arc cage boundaries, it activates. Thatās what I meant, I explained it very badly
Yup, correct
And lore doesn't really correlate to in game rating, otherwise Xuan, an incredibly ancient lightbearer who was revived a while ago and already been through wars post resurrection would be a 5* while Ning Fei, a teenager with headaches, would be a 3*
3 star characters doesn't exist and anyways Wolf in just days become one of the strongest so age doesn't matter at all
Exactly
Thatās basically what I tested earlier, but your test was more thorough so thanks
Wolf has the protagonist buff + a sentinel's light, Ning has done nothing except kill a big servitor
Even before absorving the light of the sentinel Wolf was one of the strongest, he just did a lot of things while Ning Fei has done nothing big in comparison to him
Yea but it was giving him angst
And one hell of a headache
PS that servitor is one of my favorite designs in the game
I liked that quest. Spooky
Also the psychospace music is killer
Wolf was resurrected under the shadow of the tree of light and a sentinel corpse, there was a ton of latent light and I wouldn't be surprised if that played a significant factor
Early game Wolf is not that strong
Those were the only two positive things I have to say about Ning Fei's character quest
Man woke up and cast a super 2 minutes after picking up a relic
They need to add spam texts to the game about your āSparrowās extended warrantyā
He had to power up himself absorving solar energy iirc
He needed to attune with the sentinel hammer
Which again, big source of power flowing into him explaining his strength
New message from: Umeko
I said that
Why was I also thinking of her specifically
Wolf, I received a new message for you. Would you like to check on it?
Another guardian could do that
Wolf would be the type to get an extended warranty tho
Which character would be the type to actually fall for it?
I want to say Ning but I have a notable dislike of him
Ning absolutely
I mean the light of the sentinel in the Cabal questline
Attal would be too trusting and accept as well, if Gwynn didn't talk sense into her
I think Ning would be like "ah, time to scam the scammer" and then lose his sparrow
Attal
[REDACTED] would also fall for it too imo, he's too pure
Anyone know who i can contact to unfreeze my game
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Chapter 2-3 or sum
Nvm then
My good friend alt f4 can help
On ios and restarting doesnt work sadly
Nothing like waiting 30 minutes for a Sg match to start and then as soon as it fills, going back down to 1/18. Iron bar isnāt much better.
Yeah i have the 7 win streak triumph but getting 50 wins is.... not going to be fun
You want to grind SG tmmrw? I need data nucleus and prime anomaly kills
We've played before, I just changed my name today
Iām getting in about 1 match an hour at best.
Its not so bad on weekends in the late morning/early afternoon ET
Im 3 triumphs away from guilding SG and I wanna be done with it so badly lol
New predator was pretty good
Got straight into a SG match earlier, like instantly
Think everyone is quitting or locked in at high SG ranking
Im almost at Professor II
Is it just me or is the morgan's hunt way harder this time around?
I mean I assume a lot of people just did SG early for the event and once they finished those event missions they just stopped playing SG altogether which tends to be how it goes
Tbh I havnt played at all today other than some shadowshaper on my lunch earlier
I might have to join you on my EU alt š I pulled Umeko the other day. I just need weapons
Oh man, I need a generic bot name I will go rock SG with blue weapon Wolf
6 duplicates for what š„š
Ones enough a day for me. Only so much being Ninged can I handle (particularly when I'm using Jolder or Ikora for there Lore entries)
It was fun when I did it. I was killing players on the other side of the planet, and they had no idea who I was.
I sharded all of mine š
Tho now I need one for pvp
Anyone down to complete āas a fireteam complete 5 public events in Jiangshi metroā triumph?
I might be hold on
Lol gallows is good tho but i donāt think i want to upgrade it
Yea I just liked heir better (and thought I liked furies but that was a mistake)
@indigo solar I canāt even make this up
I upgraded furies a bit when estela got released so i donāt want to upgrade another exotic gun for her even tho heir or gallows is the better options
Can you run Iron Bar with a fireteam?
Because upgrading one exotic weapon requires a lot I donāt want to invest on two guns for the same character
The only real Ikoraās are the T6ās
finally got the god roll
Peak

@true mauve that was a no scope
360 pinnacle energy on chaos and I got 7 exotics
Well, thatās goodš
Thatās good lol. I usually use all mine and get 1 maybe 3 max
Anyone down to complete āas a fireteam complete 5 public events in Jiangshi metroā triumph? Eu
Assuming your character can change light, though true Guardians can indeed switch.
Gacha Character Binding Light
Can anyone tell me what the Vex minds are in shifting gates need it for the triumph
How long did you spend? I have gotten 30+ in a single day. (They were all the wrong rolls)
I only spent about 10 minutes cuz I claimed double drops from each chest. But it was more like 30 minutes because I had to stop and delete a bunch of junk between each stage lol
10 at a time.
Anyone know how long it takes to get to lv 70+ š
My Wolf's light dropped from 73,100 to 73,030 Because I sacrificed my artifact to boost my Signature

If you camp open world zones and use your pinn sparingly to unlock character quests for the exp it should take 5-6 days depending on your pulls on mythic characters cause they give more exp then the purples. Donāt just spam events with your wolf build proficiency to intermediate on kabr ikora and so on
Do they mean level or acclaim though š¤
can you only catch the event fish with event bait or can you use regular bait with a smaller chance?
Level
Oh wow I don't even remember leveling 𤣠felt automatic/fast doing the main story and anything that popped up
Are they random or do they have a specific spawn?
random i think
Random because Iāve gotten 3 of them from the memorial pond in haven
I got a few really fast
I just made an alt for my girl like a week ago so itās fresh for me⦠otherwise no chance Iām remembering all that lol
Iām so tempted to start warframe, idk if I should do this to myself
Iāve always loved the absolutely obserd amount of movement in warframe itās a blast if you got a month to farm and craft some of the good frames
Reminds me of some og tribes gameplay
Wolfpack over del5 this calamity right for ning guys
gauntlet is so good now wow i can literally get into a round midway and finish more per hour than before
Iāll think about it
Oh
I have been kicked out of lobbies 4 times today in shifting gates bc of a fireteam that joined, despite me being there first š apparently im just not allowed to play shifting gates.
Got my acclaim up to 77, gonna have to wait there for a while
Anyone else having sig ability issues since patch? Had one not showing it was charging or charged and also Maru's shield showing visually but not actually working causing death š
Happened to me in expanse runs ALOT
The Maru one has happened a few times and it's right after using it so it's not a lag / visual mix up
Must be a new bug. The recharge one was weird because it was greyed out yet I could still use it (Rossi)
Changing hero and back fixed it
Smoothest gameplay š
Looks like vasoline mode though
Even better
The grey out was happening to my nings clone in iron bar last week never had it happen in any other event tho
I got clips of it but they disregarded my concern saying it was on my side
Is there a know bug site or section anywhere? Be cool so I don't have to submit but report. The Maru one ruins runs
mickey mouse strike t1 maru for the w
Happened to me in shifting. It was super slow to recharge, but only rarely happens. Though, since I canāt really seem to play anymore, it might not be so rare.
Wait times have become egregious
i reported umeko bricking her dodge a long time ago and it still happens
Bricking her dodge is why I dont play her
I was the first in the que and it went to 10/18, and then I was 1/18 š. 4 TIMES TODAY
Are yall on pc or mobile when it happens?
Im mobile only
With those settings itās not THAT bad š
I need Gwynn rerun, I need talents to make her good š
LATAM lobby maybe?
If your solo q try to team up and see if the lobby changes
Iām sure itās dead on a Friday night tho
Some reason mine looks worse than that on ultra, must a be a resolution thing? I run on max because otherwise blurry
Gfx card
Can someone give me a HUD code? 4 or 5 fingers
I run on iPhone 17 Pro Max wouldnāt make a difference 14 Pro and up so not sure what device do you run?
No idea, but i am beginning to think about moving on to other things. Itās not that I donāt like the game, itās that I literally canāt play.
finally all gold medals, went f2p with this season
When you outdamage a 71K Estela on a grandmaster. Also revived them both twice.
Finnala is such a nice F2P Solar option for grandmasters
What server?
what was the estela doing the whole game
Was probably afk just summoning a dragon on cooldown
I played with a 70k+ Maru who lives in Europe a few times and out damaged when I hosted fire team yet when we switched they'd out do me. Lag is real š
Shifting and CO still fubar most of the time if APAC X EMEA lobby.
using furries is a mistake
Nah, itās what I allowed her to do. Finnala is strong.
Don't think people realize how busted partridge sky is yet lol
Been playing ever crisis while DR has its content crisis
Healing herself
Thereās plenty of content, the PvP community is one of the best (other than a few players I can name that sent me colorful messages due to having a #1 title). Thatās why itās sad to see
Don't really play sg anymore cause of ping issues
do we know if with the next reset its going to be a diff gm
or just a modifier
eu reset so if na didnt hit one today within like recent hours i mean the reset after that reset
when its void storm
I think you can look at the weekly set of modifiers for GM no?
i care about what gm it is and whether itll change with the modifier
or its going to be same one but with a diff modifier
that rotation only shows the former, not what gm it is
have to make a call on whether to spend reserve energy or not to insta gild
actually ill probably be like short anyway so ill have to run something at minimum to hit that after the gm
need 300 and have 180 reserves so ill need to do that anyway after the gm
This all the info we get
Neat, saving that
Im 1 reset ahead but yeah ik about screen
If someone remembers when the gms were swapping can probably get it from there
Right now its converging gravity on overflow, same as a week and a half ago
But its definetly either when it goes to void storm or to field
If rotations are fully the same across servers which they probably are i dont remember if it was possible to have base title by then
And most likely definetly not by walls which was before that if not earlier iirc
So regardless gild shouldnt be possible till next gm
Im 60% sure it wasnt just pe gated
I tried gilding with flawless on overflow, seems like it doesnt count on new maps/bugged
It needs all 3
I have 2 just need the converging gravity, but didn't count when I cleared it
And prev eyes was a long time ago
I'll check base title requirements to see if we were gated on anything but pe
But I think it was gated by modifiers so even getting the pe one day 1 wouldnt let you get a walls clear for gild when it was a gm previously
Literally had to band my pack together for a flawless run because randoms love blowing themselves up, just to not get credit. Then people wonder why player numbers are dropping drastically
Actually I think it was possible
Also im talking seasonal not that
Wastelander gild
Oh I was talking about the special agent gild
I have everything but shifting gild and a few legacies for a long time now atp
If ill lock in on morgran and legacy all I will need is attal in shadowshaper shop to have everything but slop racing and shifting
should i try this on gwynn lol
not good for guyn
Try it⦠but itās gonna hinder you since thereās better multipliers for her kit of up close and personal
Should be great on Maru tho
I use courageous planetisimal on gywnn for slot 3, but I dont use her much and not 100% certain on her best artifacts
@naive ingot would know
i use gwynn a lot and i run ring of abundance, inverted tenacity, courageous, bellicose
Gwynn such a wanky character I donāt even bother building her ngl
even with her t6 she sits at 65k on trash cause I feel sheās lack luster. Probably just me tho 
its you
Yeah Iāll take my t6 anyone else and dookie out more dps any day 
is that a burn or something
No itās a fact.
Yeah I have her t0 with concerto and eternal retribution and she's okay, but no content demands impact at this time lol
Even so impact is the easiest to counter outta spec. A maha on a Ning and a Wolfpack will shred faster clears then a Gwynn. But it comes down to play style really. Iāve seen some AMAZING Gwynnās ⦠buts itās like a helhest. Major investment needed for those numbers
It is unfortunate that t6 gywnn feels dead atm, I feel the pain. Gallows also smashes thru impact too
My helhest is t2 and her damage feels nutty lol
Estela too easy to use to even consider a Gwynn really⦠her kits so simple compared to doing actual rotations with Gwynn I just brain dead the runs and can clear any āGwynnā content
only in expanse
impacts will not be bruteforced even remotely fast in calams because match game modifier impacted shinkas
ning does nothing to precisions already and he relied on fairly fast takedowns of impact shields to bruteforce that
he will just die while doing it 4 times slower
Yeah the only difference is that estella doesnt really have the close range kit like gywnn, but once again 0 content requires a close range kit at this time
Gwynn does need some love like they gave helhest and Maru tho like this season caters to them but we never really got the āGwynnā season if that makes sense
gwyn was mandatory and viable for longer than estella ever was
Said no one ever.
estella was a certified bis char only for morgrans
When? š¤£
like entire beginning of the game?
while estella never was BiS in anything but her morgran?
okay also contest
like 2 weeks ?
Okay Iāll accept the fact youāre a Gwynn lover and she needs some love fr tho .
For one calamity ops?
i didnt touch gwyn since then i dont have a particular preference for her
for every single impact calam weve had it was double ning and a gwyn comp
estella was useable but never the best choice in calams, wasnt the best for expanse either
I donāt either but the investment of a lot of people would be cool too see some Gwynn content Iād actually enjoy that. Some heavy impact runs would be fun
worst thing is that i knew that this is going to happen and she will be a brick on my account but ended up baiting myself into t6ing her š
when the original plan was 1 copy and skip
I take my estella over maru in expanse and beat full key requirement in 1 run. Also estella is much stronger in pvp, and pve
Have you tried Maru in PvP? She insane lol
She's fun hahah
maru is broken in pvp because of how her os works
in pve you either need maru or you dont need maru, estella isnt needed like ever unless idk convenience in gm
I never claimed estella was better than maru in pvp, just better than gywnn
u just did
ikora, maru, for rapid ning slams estella in expanse unless you are on gregware
Gwynn does some insane dmg in PvP but itās such a limited poke and pull playstyle itās only for the real min maxers who dedicate time to learning her kit
Just said estella can clear expanse that was made for maru no problem, didn't mean the second part i was talking about gywnn
Gwynn probably one of the hardest hitting PvP chars just takes practice
you can clear it no problem even by just doing aimlabs on ning
expanse was only hard when we were underlight
This 100%
I'm a mobile player, if yall decide to play on controller/aimlab then good for you lol
i literally cleared one of marus expanses on gwyn with unbuilt guns since i didnt invest into octant š
previous time which was absolutely horrible for her
Donāt forget expanse is power capped so really it comes down to skill honestly
that one brought memories of underlight week 1
at least up to a certain point theres a solid correlation between power and how strong you are
if your character is built you do more damage and when you do so your power tends to grow as well
power didnt impact me, cata 1 octant and already peashooter archetype with mythic mods did
Take arc shotgun and use volley mode and pray its not a ning clone š¤£
Itās always a clone 
Kill the clone and the real ning
They should neft Ning clone
The 2 second invisibility to get behind you and 2 shot with muri is always wonderful
Ning deserves 4 clones and 2 slams heās underpowered

Thatās a lie donāt take the bait
also clone should overshield for 100% max hp for good measure
Agreed
Bro I didnāt get to play enough pvp today. Itās so sad
Give him all the buffs you want, won't matter if you throw him off the map š
Destiny risNing
Thatās why I Maru main in PvP now 
Just watched a 74k ning do 8% damage in calamity though so theres that
Skill issue 100%
tbf everybody's doing like 10% dmg vs those helhests
thats only like 6% under of what he should do
maybe 5
Probrobly giga bad helhest artifacts
ok maybe 10 but my marus bad so he is putting in more work i g
At least maru can stand in front of every barrage and tank all the damage
this cycle maybe
it feels like they are nerfed
it is a timeloss though and only worth doing in a very few spots
Good night, Elitist Discord for Destiny Rising š“š“. Maybe Iāll finally get Image and Media perms on day 2,856 šššš
I think they nerfed shinka off types so heās feeling it bad. Compared to early game
in fulminator its easy and reliable to avoid barrages compared to semi open huge space in nexus which you have to cross
ning isnt bruteforcing them anyway in good clears
its a timeloss even if it isnt literally 4 times slower like it is since the match game which impacts shinkas for some reason
Main issue is like 85% of the mobs are void shield not arc
Wolfpack
theres no pressure with them
1 maru is enough, they are concentrated in spots where its not a big deal
wolfpack is not taking care of every shield reliably enough
Maru one shots the shields from what I see tho, multiple of them
I play as Maru main now so I havenāt even done a run with Ning but Iād assume Maru gonna carry the void breaks
you encounter void shields while afking the plate, lift room and boss
none of them matter all that much, i bet you can get 400+k easily with wolf who only uses his gl to break shinkas and just primaries
with void auto
At least its fulminator this time, and yeah the barrages don't feel as bad this time
Was getting awfully tired of nexus lol
Still wished there was alittle more thought into the run and not giving us barrages 3 calams in a row
Feels dry now
fulminator is way too easy of a strike
the only reason people capped out at low 400k previous time is because we were generally worse at doing calams, it wasnt even a build issue
Yeah I wish the rewards from new blitz maps were better :/ I like the maps but have 0 reason to run them when I don't have challenge keys
you can get 416k ish with absolutely no unstucks no nothing
For me itās Destiny Rossing
Yeah its a simple map i agree but still after 2 weeks of nexus ill take it
nexus was abysmal
especially barrage week
had to help way too many people in a cycle where all 3 ppl need to kwtd
Had to kill nexus in under 4 min to get out of specialist was stupid
calamity blitz when
was NOT a good cycle to reset the ranks on
not to mention nerfing a character mid cycle instead of waiting 1 more week and doing it then, that was such a weird move
helhest needs a harsher nerf if anything but there is absolutely 0 reason to do it 1 week into a cycle instead of in the end of it
Gauntlet PvP when
Nexus promotion required unstuck and suicides and still was really hard to get out of specialist
Why did they remove the clusters from Morgrans? Iām not crazy - it was there on Wednesday, right?
you didnt need any tech for 390 in expert
My pack did, 2 helhest and maru and we barely made it out with techs, needed boss at 2x for promotion last week
1.8x was always like 10k short
Weāll leave last calam and the one before it in the past 
Where they belong
also we were all not t6, more like t2-t4
𤣠im still recovering
1st nexus cycle was tolerable
2nd was atrocious especially since again i had to help a lot of ppl
Yeah 1st nexus was alright, even in master. Last one when it started i was questioning even trying it lol
Letās hope for a brighter future after they implement the impact homie soon
felt like sisyphus
bring 1 guy up by pushing another one from a promo
zone 1 on eu ended up needing 402+ for promo
Not to mention overseers so stacked on identical runs last time it destroyed the ranks
Had that same problem when the eclipse event happened and top 100 was like the same 3 teams
Iāll enjoy delta force and sonic rumble until season 4 where they have bigger plans ⦠until then my 73k everyoneās will be just fine till then lol

Excuse me.
did they just add 3 new bosses without retroactively counting them to shifting gild
Wait what nerfs
"Bug fix"
Uh oh
they changed the formula for axion
dbb is additive instead of multiplicative
basically might as well be a direct helhest nerf which isnt an issue but they did it 1 week into calam cycle
even worse-week 1 of a new season when a lot of ppl didnt have maxed pact if they didnt pre save pe
all they had to do was do it when the season dropped or wait 1 week
and it would be perfectly fine and reasonable
instead by the time you maxed pact for her relevant upgrades you would do less damage than during week 1 with pretty much no pact upgrades š
still broken and mandatory + messed up the cycle by making her worse in the 2nd half of it
great job
probably is also even more noticeable for low talent hel as well
Even the colossal titan couldnāt look over this wallā¦
bro is the reason why i get no exotics
ning
2x maru is pointless
Maru ning hel
Are yall doing the unstuck
I feel like 450 is doable
2 maru probably cant even do 419.999+ in the first place
450 is not doable unless a major skip is found
Youāll see š¤«
gregware
you need to save like 30ish seconds over an already fast run to even try to 3x the boss
š¤«
and there isnt much to skip in fulmi
with what we know rn 3x is impossible
completely new skip will be needed for that
theoretically you could do like 445 probably at 2x
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the 427 run we have could shave off about 15 seconds at most by not having a t1 maru and bad arti hel at best
naturally with unstucking and deathwarping
boss needs -30 if not more
score can be pushed higher but 2x boss will cap out at below 450
new major fulmi tech or nothing ever happens
I wanna see 450 rly bad, probably gonna be sitting in the strike all day tomorrow trying to find anything, but again itās fulm so like you said nothing ever happens
I just feel like using (potentially) both unstucks you can really push it and get there
I guess I need to watch a 42x run since weāve been saving attempts
unstucks are already found
it will take more than that, like an oob or something to save that much time
zone cap+long wait from clearing lift to boss start is a lot of time
Ugh
straightforward strike with a lot of downtime
if like a way to skip lift while actually triggering the boss will be found or something along those lines its possible
Thatās what I was thinking but idk
but even if you get up earlier it doesnt change when he activates
its tied to the platform itself
man
maru with her q can start scaling the lift earlier probs but it changes nothing and that would be too little of a timesave unless like
get on a lift while its going down
q yourself to start climbing if its even possible
but it doesnt start the boss earlier anyway
Yeah even if it did work itās so insignificant
that would be enough on a god run if you could be halway up while the lift is still lowering
but it doesnt work
Calamity just gotta go Iāll be real
you can get to the boss by like under 2 30 most likely
i love calamity please dont let go
but it still wont be enough
that time is for crossing the zone
which means he will be immune for a bunch of time, transition to the 2nd phase etc etc+usjt generally doing him
and under 2 30 is quite lowball-ish in the first place prolly
banging my head against a wall
womp womp
calams are fun and p much the only endgame that has numbers to chase tied to some sort of reason besides straight bragging rights for 2 weeks
just that weve had horrible and then an agonizing cycle b2b
fulmi is chill and balls are alright as long as its not on nexus which sucks on its own anyway
I didnāt even run last cycle until last day lol it was so bad
Still got 3rd so thatās alright
Most of my characters only sit around 67~70k so that already limits how much I can push with randos since they will auto bail even at 100 under power half the time lol
70k is enough for expert 2 and master 1 relegation, more than enough clusters to upgrade new char every month
heya also yea
I only enjoy suboptimal characters so Iām just screwed if I need clusters 
Indeed, why want permissions in a discord server he dislikes? Makes my brain hurt.
EU looking to do a flawless blitz
even if youre 1 power under the game gives you a debuff for not being at light
missed promotion to master 2 by 3 goblins, 403700 wasnt enough
Do you know what the actuall debuff damage delta is cause it feels pretty negligible up until 1500 under
debuff is basically half damage regardless of if youre 1 or 5000 under
when you hit power you do alot more damage
Is the only way to break 74k practically perfect artifact rolls at this point? I can't seem to break 73.8 on Tan.
The bait goes crazy
I think so, yeah
Hello. Complete noob here. I started playing yesterday and im f2p. I got the starter characters and i just pulled finnala and jolder. Which ones should i invest in ?
Jolder
Wolf
What are the vex minds in shifting
The bigger vex that control the small ones. Afaik can include the floating big ones or the bipedal
So literally any big vex?
Cause Iāve done so much shifting yet no progress to the triumph
i think big vex boss in shifting shrine
Iāve beaten one yet it didnāt track
I was in a fireteam too
there are 2 boss harpy and minotaur
mine just auto complete and i dont even know how
may the traveler bless this maru that carried my azz thru this and revived me like 5 times
also, may the person who thought of barrages as good idea poop themself in the middle of the streat
Would I know lol but I running atm Healing Planetesmial, Resolute Radiation, Courageous Planetesimal and Rampaging Planetesimal. Missing decent attributes for Super boost and Weapon enhancement... but my defence, ability and melee all tier 9. Void boost at tier 8. Signature is tier 8.
But the luck of the grinding in Chaos I guess š š¤£
that could be what they are doing rn
Unpopular opinion but they are kinda fun š¤£
Just not with post merge lag killing me behind cover
Id vote them off the island in a heartbeat
I run the same but I definitely just use 3/3 mythics and skipped the exotic
Next modifier is the girl statue from squid games and you have to freeze š¤£
That would be a deadly combo while facing a big shank
is the top one a top 3?
alright i get it on nexus but we cannot be complaining about balls on fulminator
they might as well not be there
dunno, when they spawn on my head and i have half a second to run away from them, kinda hard
and even when i hide, THEY TRACK ME
was hidden behind boxes, THE BALL TURNED AROUND THE BOX AND HIT ME

idk hide faster maybe
dont even need to hide the map isnt an open space
there are like 2 transitions where you could get realistically hit hard and it takes a second tops to avoid it if your char cant deal with them
most of the time its just maru tanking the barrages and deal with the ads
helhest are hiding and picking shinka
ning draws more of them if anything
theres like 1 time in a good run where maru might consider protecting hel just in case
it feels like they straight nerfed them too icl
its the same, we just got more cover than nexus map
Should i use lumia leaves for pulls only or is it used on smth else as well ?
buy challenge keys and pinnacle energy
not worth if f2p imo
All mine are exotic
ye, i played ning, it was the boss fight, killed servitor, was destroying that energy thing and mid way barrage spawned on my head and started shooting, didn't even have time for my skills to recharge to get away
also umm, soon ima get the thing to pick a char from draw, should i get my Jolder to t1 or better boost up my ning to t2? considering ning is my strongest char at the moment
ning only, jolder tree is useless
Do Ning it will increase ur damage by 25% but for like 3 seconds but worth it
kk
Good afternoon.
good afternoon
How are you doing? 
good, but tired, too many things to do, not enough time 
Ah, I see. Respectable though.
what about u?
Eh, I am doing great. Just about to head to the gym.
nice
Yep, can never miss the gains.

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bye
Wasnt there an option to see what artifact and artifact synergys works best on some characters?
Recommendation list
Question: should I pull for Maru but no t1 or wait for the next character but get t1 or possibly t2?
A satisfying number
Does anyone know what it means on exotic mods by minimum dmg %? Doing damage testing between 1 and another without that stat seems to not raise damage but rather something else?
T1 is a game changer, you f2p or whale
What's it raising? Try it at different ranges see if it helps outside of effective range
Maybe it just states minimum damage %
Some Perks increase the dmg when out of effective range, maybe it's a bad translation
Hmm
It's kinda like Culture Clash origin trait, increases damage outside of effective range
See? Minimum dmg
Ill try that but the dmg range is already on scopes.
oh wait they reworked the upgraded effect for Culture Clash? Hell yeah
Just going based on other similar mechanics
Off to the right side of the practice range there is an area with drones that tell you the different ranges you are hitting at. So a good way to keep track of damage differences by range.
Is probably a dead stat on scout, LGL, and sniper whatever is long range
Was a bit weird seeing "+10% damage that never applies in a noticeable amount of content" before
That would truly suck lol
F2p, I don't have the facilities to whale at all š
Answering this btw
Oh bro... Bow has same range as Sniper we tested it. That is a dead stat for it
If you can't confidently T1 a limited character, prob best to skip and wait for next season
Id maybe save? Without T1 I feel like Maru isnt going to do the content you want. Learn Ikora if you skip Maru
That sucks, ill just use my other mod then. Was hoping it could help in another area.
I got lucky with Maru for my first 10 pull, so 
Currently sitting at 8 pity and waiting for next act
Thanks my dude
Minimum damage for precision is probably meant more for hand cannons
Alrighty bet, thanks so much!
Those are same range as scout rifle š got a sharpshooter achieve in Iron Bar
Minimum damage oughta be a good perk for PvP if we ever get more Iron Bar maps
I could see that, might be a good mod for Ward then.
Everything set to lvl 1 for Fair Play
and reduce the impact of ability spam... you know who you are, ning fei mains
Haven't rolled his hc yet but I am for sure gonna get him
Min damage helps short range characters be long range
My Gwynn sidearms can shoot for alot outside of effective range, they feel more like an AR. I rock 2 perks that almost double the damage
If we get TLW then it is gonna rot lol
Saladin mythic and Jaren legendary?
At least we can take exotics off now
That is such a great QoL. Almost needed tho if they keep adding new exotic mod abilities tho. Can put a dummy mod on now to keep levels and move things around based on content
Yeah, for sure. Ive been actually thinking of getting different mod scopes for Hel too. 1 cabal, 1 fallen and maybe 1 mid range
Depending on what the calamity strike is I can just swap mods
Woah thats some min/max based on content fr
šÆ Ikora is great this cycle when skipping maru
Yeah, kinda going all in on her...
Helhest is Helbest
So we need to wait for new hero until Maru's banner ends?
Finishing out her 3rd and 4th slot exotics. 4th slot is done
I got a mythic dmg boost set but I like to change up my play style. I find myself enjoying the overall healing more.
Anyways, im tired
Have you ever noticed that every time you post suggestions, they instantly get 1 like and 1 dislike. Why?
silly mismatched artifact build (finnala)
could've sworn bellicose blazar was 45% at one point
It's simple, bot is adding reactions, so others can vote.
Bring back old Ikora fr
Itās the bot setting up reactions for you. Since we canāt react anything else
Or Estelaās Gallows that covers everything void related
Confined axion is not the best artifact tho
Having both slot 1 and 2 be Evolution set is redundant and ineffective if your character can gain damage resist repeatedly, which Finnala can with her relic trait 3. Armored stacks can only go up to 20, for a maximum of 36% damage reduction. You can easily reach this cap with just two Firesprites with slot 2 Evolution, so Chiaroscuro stacks another 25% on top of that, for (assuming additive artifact benefits) 61% damage reduction, which I think stacks multiplicatively with Finnala's 12% damage reduction with 3 Firesprites and 50% damage reduction with barrier up
Gmornin
If my math is mathing correctly, that's a peak damage resist of 82.84%
assuming Armored x20, Chiaroscuro, Ember x3, and barrier
Valiant Ground + Bellicose Blazar boost general damage and AoE damage respectively, and Nala's best damage comes from AoE, so that's a 47% damage boost (I think) to the important parts of her damage output
@indigo solar could you please verify this, this could be huge if true (if you're awake ofc)
It stacks multiplicatively
Like, between artifacts?
Wellll calcing even the fastest time with no mistake +death respawn. You need to somehow get onto the elevator at like 1:30
unstuck doesnāt even help iirc since the boss only enter phases after the elevator hit the top
82% damage resist and still getting one tapped by precision shinkas fr
So the actual peak damage resist for Finnala with that artifact set is 78.88%, without taking attributes and seasonal artifact into account
That's still not horrible
well yeah, you don't play finnala in piercing content silly 
Not with that attitude
Actually you wonāt get one hit if you have ranged resist and defence
Everyone should know thisā¦..but I still get players with melee defence stats in c ops going how?
We have melee characters
When we are in a mid ranged to ranged enemy layout lol
I personally don't have time in the day to farm exotic artifacts looking for the perfect 4/4 for every slot
I donāt know the math behind this but iirc stats does fall off, since they donāt stack exactly on top of each other. So eventually the more defense you stack, the less value you get
Same with like speed. Stacking helhest drone buff on ning own clone speed buff doesnāt come out to 80%
Most Ning players don't take advantage of their invis very well. Just facerolling the keyboard š
This too
Merely a symptom of meta existing
How well does invis actually work
Ning is meta by runner this cycle ops not by dps
And we have other option than Ning this cycle for runner, we just have a lot of build Nings from release
Wolf moment
Umeko too
With how tight this calamity is since 3x kill of off the table, umeko and wolf can work, but the issue is you lose too much time
though you can swap out Maru for ikora 
We're not exclusively talking about the top .1% here though
Anyone got a built ikora. I do believe ikora is able to get the 425k score lol
I almost have seven characters with maxed relics aside from level 5 weapon mastery, just need one more cluster for Jolder's lv18 super
Ikora would absolutely be the key if barrages didn't exist that force you to take cover in the middle of the damage phase
Just have Ikora unhinge her jaw and eat the barrages
You donāt have to. Even in our runs, we ignore barrages
Maru still there to absorb to to get some recharge off on her blast
You have different ways to navigate the c ops, just requires a team that will consolidate a planā¦
Nah Iām choosing Jolder and running with randos
Now Iām in masters group I can see itās purely a lack of experimenting and or characters build in players pools atm
Other than then use of untuck that truly creates issue in trying out different options too
If everyone is going for a top spot, why would you use anything but the best comp
Yes Iād agree however is constraint to the idea of what is only shown only works
This implies the top runners arenāt trying everything first and only using what works
Until that wolf came on and showed players use of his kit
It was only Ning showcased as a runner and partially Umeko
So last clamsity, if the top team had run ning instead of umeko, they woulda got a 460k run, but they stuck with umeko for commitment. Same with there initial wolf run. We did the ning run because we didnāt have wolf/umeko built
It fun being able to get a 4star on top of the leaderboard
Because 4*s are viable
Like you said not ābuiltā so itās a case players are still min maxing hero potential. Like I said the first set of resources was put into popular characters at the start.
And they was the only options available as built characters during the first cycles.
Well true that but also a different kind of built, the wolf run. You needed different substats compare to a normal built wolf, and umeko run may look normal, but the amount of super/shurikin linking you had to do was insane
That was out of our department. We didnāt even consider that factor on umeko lol. Brain too small 
Yes also players are learning about stats on arts and to actually set them up to be viable for a run lol. Like realising your going against ranged mobs so using range defence resistance and others to make the run easier āsurvivalā
Until we see more optimal 4* yeah myths will just power run c opsā¦
Thatās enough said from my pov
Remove talent trees from c ops and watch the world burn 
Finally got set

You mean watch the game eos
I think the only point of talent tree is for calamity lol. Fair play willrestrict talents like eslcipe and stuff, expense, I was able to clear void side in 7 minute with a 68k Maru t0
Can anyone tell me where the cat is today?
Happy Saturday
if your only goal is just clear content then yeah talents arnt needed
skill is also a huge factor, i made it to overseer last wipe with a t2 ning i out damaged alot of t6 nings
What's the key to hitting master in calamity? Currently in Exp 2
Bro. There's multiple cats and they show up on map. Just take a walk, buster
asking you to catch a common fish with epic bait is diabolical
literally have to change fishing talents to get more common just for some of these stupid fish š
This š
Anybody in calamity Master
so when can we unmerge the servers
Is there a quicker way to respawn enemies in the practice range? Like an auto setting im not seeing?
Well, the issue with last 2 clamsity and this clamsity, if ur doing more dmg, ur run is bad 
I canāt check right now, but if you can, check last clamsity and see if you was able to do more dmg then me. T6 ning wasnāt required for this and last 2 clamsity, you super for movement speed, you only deal dmg to ads to make barrier spawn in sooner
Just set them to infinite hp if ur testing dmg
No im farming kills for the emblems lol
Why not just farm Morganās? There a modifier that make it so more base combatant spawn/ when you kill elite or higher, then spawn in 3-4 base combsants
Bored and you need to do it for blue guns too which im not interesting in taking out into the field lol
Okay so now that ive explained myself, is there a quicker way to respawn enemies in practice range?
Other than just using the console on the left?
There is an answer to all needs already built in for all tasks. Morgrans is too high power, but there are activities where you would 1 shot bosses. I forget the name, Itās to the left of chaos
Nah but she was crept by Maru. Maru shield is 100% damage resist and gives her overshield when hit. Damage resist in a game where you shouldnt be getting hit alot is a flawed game concept imo
I really appreciate the alternate suggestions, I do, but I really just need to know if there is an easier way to respawn enemies, like maybe an automatic setting or something im not seeing
No there is not
Thanks!
De nada
Yeah so getting 1k playing activities makes sense, but i hate loading screens, wait times, and all the bs in between rounds. Doing it this way ensures I am doing it the fastest way possible, maybe 15 minutes per weapon. No lulls, no stoppage, just farming. Is it tedious? Yeah. Is it fastest? Almost certainly yes
Why do it?
For the emblems. Im nearing total completion of the game in terms of things to achieve/triumphs/seals and all that
I could not care any less about leaderboards than I currently do, so this is like my last rodeo until act2 (Jaren , i hope) then s4 bring new content
Hey how can I change the location of the widget of the app?
It's showing the wrong location for it.
Morning, Elitist Destiny Rising Discord āļøš“
Another beautiful day of not having Image and Media perms. Maybe on Day 2,857ā¦
I will never understand completionist and achieve hunters
That's okay š
For sure, I didnt degrade or knockdown. Everyone should play for their own fun
Can you remind me how weāre elitists? I forgot
All good, I didnt think you were. We all enjoy the game in different ways
Well sarumon can tell you, bro just dealt with it asking a simple "yes/no" question
Not the users themselves the people who moderate the server. At this point Iām doing it as a daily joke cuz the image perms thing is laughable. If you link your account with hundreds of hours this should not be a thing.
Truth be told, I wasn't super concerned about getting these emblems done until I saw somebody else's triumph score and I got jealous lol
Just talk more
Hence my dayly msgs
We are into like next week already, you ahead of schedule keep talking
Yeah with a sad amount of hours already put in I was ashamed to even ask the question in the first place, then I kept getting alternate suggestions which were nice but not necessary
But I really do like lots of people in here, ya'll have definitely helped my guardians journey
People are helpful here, overly so sometimes to the point of sounding arrogant or rude. It is all done with good intention though
Yep once again not dissing anyone in here just think the way the server is run is just terrible. The content creator tags are also just not needed. It creates special treatment.
Itās a sponsorship thing
Just making sure you arenāt resetting it by the select combat screen. You can respawn them just by hitting the reset combatant from the drop down.
Nobody even watches those bad yapfest, none of them CC do anything
Itās basically sponsoring creators. Itās how channels and games grow
I cant say anything about the moderation, but I will say that I wish we had a larger community
Guys can I get help for the widget it's showing Findley which is where I am not at
Itās a mutual deal. You make content for the game, the server promotes your channel. Itās a cycle of promotion
I love you
What level is image perms?
Now I feel REALLY silly
Level 3/rank 2
You should just want to make content⦠I was recording and posted a Expance run without this motivation⦠Why canāt others.
500000 billion or about 1000 days in the discord (this is satire)
Are you actively trying to make a career off of YouTube/content creation
Eventually when I get my stuff together. I work a week and a week.
Iāve actually been running a social experiment on artifacts on Hellhest. Really interesting stuff.
I was using the console every time. I had to switch to using my fingers instead of my controller since that was faster, it might still be faster but this will increase my spawn rate!
"You should just want to make content⦠I was recording and posted a Expance run without this motivation⦠Why canāt others." Uhhh which one is it?
Itās to help boost people who are trying to get into content creation while also promoting the game.
Glad it will help, I have only used the reset while testing damage and knocking the enemy to far away. Never thought to use it for the achievement farming before now.
Bro this will bring 1k times to like 10-15 minutes consistently for pc players
Sorry I donāt understand ur augment here because itās repeating a statement that is factual
@sonic inlet check out my YT channel that I dont ever plug, I make videos when I find good tips
Iām getting into content creation and all I think it is is special treatment. I understand a channel to share vods but not this.
AKA you missed starting date and now want to have same publicity as them
They had/have quotas the content creation program was open for everyone to apply
Idc if I have publicity. Over half the users hate me for the artifacts I use alone and no conversation is gonna change their minds.
I donāt think anyone here cares about your artifacts
Use #videos-and-streams and then watch your YT studio for analytics. 90% of views are from YT algorithm learn to use hashtags in vid description. Discord doesnt gain you any views and damages your public reputation majority of time
IMO, the content creator role can be good if you notice they are someone giving good info in discord. This makes it easier to see who videos you can look at and get mostly accurate info. New content creators should be let into the role every so often if it is actually closed (never looked into it).
Half of this games users are wales that when u use anything against the grain you are āwrongā.
Are we talking about the same server
Eh, I find if you explain things properly and give evidence to support it most people will think about it.
Here, App is still open for CC go meet min reqs
#server-news message
But āit does well for meā is an argument that most will brush off too.
Show video proof of numbers in damage testing. Numbers dont lie. Ez pz
Taniks is one of the most trusted people on the server and is F2P.
I guarantee @indigo solar doesnt lie, they always show proof
Nah Iām just gonna continue carries cuz I know Iām right. Feels better that way.
Because they test everything
"When I have to show proof, ima run away instead"
Canāt share media in this chat cuzā¦
@sonic inlet post YT link in #videos-and-streams
There are ways, quit being a whiner and be a winner
We find a lot of things that arenāt always as good as they seem by showing our work. Like Safeguard Blazer not necessarily being as good for Maru (in its current state) as the damage boost only works for 6 seconds after initial over shield gain, you need to lose the over shield to reapply it.
You want something? You work hard for it, things arnt given freely
I have to re-do dmg numbers cuz they are from before I maxed queens but even with this nothing will change.
That sounds great on, say, Jolder who can only keep overshield for around 6 seconds actually
Gwynn does 4 secs
I will say however that my hest build does 1.2 mill DPS for 7 seconds and that the 100% dmg buff stays up if you manage it right.
It probably would be, I currently have a ticket in about it so hopefully it also does get fixed later. Jolder slam keeping over shield up longer could make it not viable too. I am not a Jolder main tho so I am unsure how often that happens.
Pretty often 
Lmao no fun police back in action
Whar
Jolder has also just gotten so many silent nerfs on her mythical swords that I just refuse to play her at this point.
Make a yt vid so we can all build better, if you have a cracked build share it. What's your artifact list?
She just got a huge buff on her exotic sword
Partridge just got buffed significantly what are you saying
That's exotic...
Iām sorry am I the only one who feels like the holder buff is kind of irrelevant
She got buffed?
Yeah I know but you donāt need to consider other swords because of just how much it got buffed
Because doesnāt the magazine reload once u starlight slam already, and when u pop super I thought the ammo doesnāt go down
He said mythic...
If youāre running a void build cly2 hasnt been nerfed that much itās still very good
Pretty sure it only reloads with t1, no?
Can you try doing it in practice range? What ur numbers there
So really what is the point of buffing jolder super to where u pop it and it reloads ,
Ahhh yess. The buff to the final tree that nobody has for an exotic that can only be decrypted and not gotten by a raid drop for example.
Now you can burn mag and hit it without using reload
Oh I see, so the buff makes super reload on t0
???
It does +50% light attack damage what are you on about
I forgot as Iām t3 or 4
Isnāt that kill dependent?
Searching his post history, what I find his ānot metaā build is is basically calming and Hawkeye on HelHest instead of Axion. So nothing to out of the wall and just one of the debatable builds.
Iād need to read the patch notes to double check. I could very well be wrong
When is the heavy not killing something
Boss
Well light attack is useless on exotic sword, you only use it for the flame attack. Since the void mythic outdps the exotic if you using it for swing dmg
Yeah thatās a problem cheif
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He would make a good content creator then, he'd fit right in
Currently only sword besides the arc one that does no dmg and is a utility sword. Only good for stun champs an ad clear. I would be contempt with them removing spread capabilities if it meant that I actually felt like I had an exotic heavy for Jolder
Does it still outdamage with the 50% damage boost
1.7m with 7 second seem to low @sonic inlet 
Dps not total
Oops same ss twice, this was suppose to be the other one
EMEA AND APAC queue 6v6 mobile, 12 min matchmaking for a matchš
He is 500k higher dps than you
oh mb
Thats a 50% gain
Well that for sure then. Since hawyeke> bellicose and calming > united for single target dps 
god i misword something in #š®āsuggestion-voting it's mythic CEG3 not exotic CEG3
I prioritized more on buffing team mates+ getting through asap
He tested on a shinka probably
we love 1.8% chance to get tsurinobuse
Can someone confirm if the +50% damage boost for light attacks makes partridge out-dps the mythic
META isnt highest dps, its most effective tactic available 𤷠min/maxers are silly
That Iām not
Cuase the void mythic can hit up to 1-2m (depending on target), it get almost a 100% extra dmg buff with it swings stack up+ annihation
Wait is that a 75% damage boost on kill? I canāt tell based on how itās worded.
@devout horizon jsut this along is a 96% dmg boost
Yeah doing 60-70% boss dmg in a span that most wouldnāt even kill wouldnāt be beneficial to ur team at all!
Light attack does nothing
good point
I mean I feel like Iām tlakijg to a brick wall here, it the same argument as well, what the point of killing the boss in 6-7 seconds when we reach the boss room with almost a full minute on the clock
It about minmaxxing the previous rooms to get all of the ads and elite there at 5x /4x modifiers
This calamity, the easiest part is the boss lol. Just that control panel room+ elevator kills the run at being able to get a 3x kill
Donāt bosses have a huge invincibility phase after a certain damage threshold
Being able to stun a Shinka instantly knowing that one of your teammates can solo nuke it off the face of the planet while you clear is valuable guys
It's quick, it's safe, and its efficient. Not to mention 3 players can cover a lot of ground for roles
Not supposed to kill boss super fast in cal ops, I also told you to post a vid and/or share your build
Honestly optimal builds will vary from content to content at times, and on team comp/weapon choices (due to how some of them stack).
even on pvp/shifting it's vastly different lol
Isnāt killing a boss too fast somewhat suboptimal if you need adds killed?
This clamsity, boss goes into phase 2 and need like 10ish second. So we reach the boss room at like 3:10 (dont have videos so idk exact timer)
3:10 hit boss room
3:18 at latest burst him to phase 2
3:28 break pillar to initial phase 2
3:38 kill
Iām just adding 10 second to each phase but it can for sure be done faster, At work right now and my laptop at home
Highest DPS isnt meta in a skill game
Okay, so a majority of the 7 second window of massive damage the dude was talking about would be wasted on the invincibility phase?
Not even wasted, more like a overkill since we reach boss room so earlier (yet too late for a 3x kill)
Fair, fair
There no point in outputting more dmg when you already have so much surplus time. That why you need to be able to leave the earlier room faster
We been thinking at max optimal time with no mistake, we can leave the first room at 0:19-0:20 second and hit the control panel at 0:32-0:35 second
Every different damage resist source is multiplicative, only things that say "stacks X times" are self-additive. Finnala gets 8% per fire sprite so 3 should be 24%. Throw in elemental resist (22%/30.45%), melee resist (24.2%), and defense boost (19.8%/26.25%), you take 0.75 * 0.64 * 0.76 * 0.5 * 0.78 * 0.6955 * 0.758 * 0.802 * 0.7375 = 0.04436312895x damage, for a 95.6% damage reduction. That's assuming you take damage dealing 20% damage right after taking elemental damage though, your general damage resistance is 0.08648942515x damage, or 91.4% DR
Oh Taniks, do you have a maxed partridge perchance 
so in conclusion all you need to do is take off dr buffs and reset it with sig 2? correct?
Yet still 1 shot by a goblin
I got some funny video to show you later tonight
how
What?
like to reapply damage resistance buffs
We had a run last clamsity, where Kris had max hp+super+overshield up, and he got 1 shot by what we think was a goblin, since boss was in pause invincibility, cyclops was dead, there only goblin left
Why do you need to reapply
Goblin or hobgoblin
There's only armored, which should add stacks every time you cast barrier or pick up a firesprite
Wait nvm thereās no hobs in the boss I think
The rest should be always active
What did it say was the cause of death
ahh ic ic
you do really need to pick them up lmao, otherwise it'd get one shotted, but tbf how does anyone die with finnala in the first place
hobgoblins in calamity will one shot you
fair
Iām the only one that recording, so idk, but watching the reply, there was nothing left, only goblin
overshield isnt dr so hobgoblin can just do your hp + overshield
Expect there no shika in the boss room
normal ones do it as well
I thought overshield gave DR?
overshield is just extra hp
That only with the new artifact
You can shoot firesprites to collect them btw
Ah, my bad then
No
ah ic ic
should be easy then š
you'll want dr more than overshield against hobgoblins
Yeah this 
Or you kill them first before they can attack you 
Just having any overshield source is equivalent to getting 50% DR since you're doubling your effective hp
that would be the optimal scenario but it seems that didnt let you survive
so the reasoning behind it is merely a skill issue ??
yes but if you say it like that people will think its dr
Damn. I need to find someone with a maxed mythic sword and a maxed partridge to see what has the higher dps after the buff 
Iām assuming the mythic after what MythicNexus said, but we didnāt get numbers for certain
i was casually playing with a top 3 attal player lmao
No it was either a bug or the goblins in the boss room was coded wrong
idk where the hobogoblin talk came from since there no hoboglobin in the boss room, only cyclopsā+ ads+ the void sheild that hold laser cube
could just be you fell over and died
then why we talking about hoboglobin im genuinely confused
Talk to me 
those are what kill me the most i dont have a photographic memory of what spawns tho
Nah you simply want faster reflexes 
tilt your phone upside down and the enemies cant shoot you
TRUE
are you a gyro aim player by chance
no
Those exist?
how does one accendentally trigger the auto rotate
yes
click fullscreen and rotate your phone at the same time
oh emulator player
Happy Saturday Errbody ā”
hello
One my pack mates @lavish carbon
how is your latency feeling since patch?
love gettin trapped in calamity ops because some manchild wants to choose a 43k last minute and not move
i fall in love with estella
apparently it requires approximately 53 rounds to get 1 engram (for the new weapons) off blitz
Well this is a horrible experience. Itās been 30 mins, and I could not get into an iron bar match, shifting gates match, or even issakis. Iāve never had this issue.
Everybody grinding their fishing skills š„²
I was already maxed š
Same but several people here said they were only like 10-20ish before the event
lol doesnāt surprise me I have never taken it serious in any game before now but for some reason it was engaging in this game for me
i thought me being level 70 before the even was bad
The rewards were pretty decent too
Right now Iām going stir crazy I canāt really upgrade my mythic chars anymore and Iām liking Wei lol
It would be cool maybe if I wasnāt on phone and the controls are just shhhht
How are things goin
Yeah I at least try to get the exotic food 2x per week for the rare events that it actually works in
on phone/tablet you control the camera, that's all
Might run some PvP today, are the queue times good?
Now that you mention it ⦠I am usually only in a game for the PvP I donāt do PvP in this game hahahahah
Wow didnāt even think about that till now most likely due to the first time I tried it I was on tan and got my arse beat so bad by a team of nings
The vcs no longer active these days
What are Challenge Activities for this season??
A minute or two.
š not for shifting gates
Not for IB either
Hello guys how u doing
worse on emu imo
Just stuck here
oh damn, you“re actually in jail
š I am Iāve been trying to escape forever
unstuck?
unstuck? xD
It donāt work
unstuck is what brought you there or not?
This is in Pack Den when I leave to Haven and come back it spawns in here, that is after I got stuck but unstuck isnāt working
thats kinda stupid tho lol
Yeah 1:30 is kinda absurd š. What death tp are yall doing? We were just gonna try optimizing the 2, maybe 3 unstucks today but I didnāt know there was a death
You canāt launch an activity or change your login location back?
Is there a way to reach elevator before?
Not that I know of
I wanna experiment with this oob but theyād be missing out on ning damage for basically the whole strike up until boss if it actually does work, which I donāt think it will
Wolf jail
Heads up, text wall incoming
Oh no
Okay some notes
A) your attributes were all over the place, since you're doing head to head comparisons it's best to just use like blue artifacts where the attributes don't affect damage
B) yes, Hawkeye token is meta. No disagreement there. Confined is only good for boss dps (despite them still being able to move, you do still get the increased damage). Bellicose is good as well for activities where you can't guarantee distance for Hawkeye
C) you did dps testing for bellicose wrong. Casting super instantly upgrades your drone to max level, so there's no need to cast drone twice before casting super. It's better to save the cast for 6 seconds so you can re proc bellicose
D) What United Axion does is increase the strength of buffs. For example, a 40% ally buff such as a Tan well or super-boosted Helhest drone will become 40% * 2.4 = 96% buff. Since you're now doing 1.96 damage instead of 1.4 damage, it's a 40% damage buff. United on a 30% ally buff leads to a 32.3% increase, and 10% makes it a 12.7% increase
E) Calming token is additive with a weapon's perk/catalyst buffs. A max QB has 58% bonus damage from its catalyst, so Calming makes you deal 1.58 + 0.46 = 2.04x damage, which is a 29.1% damage increase over the 1.58x you deal without it. Its effectiveness is even worse if you're using End of the Line, which has an average of +145.5% damage per shot over the course of 29 rounds. In this case, Calming is a (2.455 + 0.46) / 2.455 = 18.7% dps increase
F) casting drones on cooldown means you average a 14% damage boost at all times. That means Axion has an average damage boost of 17.2%, that applies to the entire team. 17.2% to a team of 3 is more useful than 29.1% for just yourself, and far more useful in a team of 6. Also, Axion boosts the strength of buffs you receive, so if you have 2 Helhests on your team, their drones create an average of 18% damage boost, so your Axion gives you a 21.4% average damage increase
We went all the way to F holy crap
Jesus
Omg š š
TL;DR United is meta, Calming is a good artifact, but not meta for anything outside of solo, Hawkeye is best general slot 4, Confined is only meta for boss dps, Bellicose is meta if you can't stay far away from enemies
There is even numbers there
Always
Ur such a peak contributor
I donāt even have a joke to make. Information overload that I somehow understand 
damage is also based on how good your aim is
and how situational things are during an activity
Helhest's thing is locking on to weak points and thus aiming is irrelevant for this discussion
Yeah her salvo auto lock
and Maru doesnāt crit
Did she really even need that little extra detail? How much worse would she have been without auto lock?
Anyone else, at this point, only check in for blessings, then send out their iron commanders... and log back off until next time?
Still no mfing haptics either, lame
Maru still kinda needs to aim, at least for Dvergar
Direct hits do quite a bit more damage than ground shots
Iron commander š„
Overshield meta atm with maru light linked, os build on ning with it, helhest also
Spend that pinnacle on chaos
TLDR If u are matching into anything rando Calming is the much better choice. Iām still correct about having 2 hests running different things.
Can't find it but I remember someone theorizing that you cannot get the same Exotic Mod twice. Debunked. FML I can't get Searing Mark for my 40k š
Calming is objectively worse in anything with more than one player
Also like did u watch the video? My build does more total damage.
It was double mythic perks that are on knockout
Absolutely no idea what that means (why you simply copied "iron commander" as a response)
Because of your attributes
I like how Iāve played with both randos and match made teams. Randos have been better every time in terms of game knowledge.
Also because you didn't properly manage your drones to maximise SFA
Thatās just not trueā¦
Yeah that I don't doubt. I thought someone had mentioned the same thing for Exotid Mods as well
man i love morgrans prey events
Just tested it where I space out the drone pops and it still does less dmg and even less than what I was doing before
Dm me the %s of each of the attributes for your united + confined vs calming + confined
@indigo solar
Are you attempting to say that's where YOU spend your energy, while you also only check in just to send them out, and to log off afterwards?
Then you're doing something seriously wrong in your testing
I'm saying iron commander doesn't provide any meaningful rewards at this point, you should be spending all of your energy on chaos or shifting gates for the essence
Gotcha!
Yeah....I haven't gotten anything good from (iron commando) in....maybe a month?
Well also all of the rewards it drops can be obtained without spending pinnacle, other than sheaves and lumenite but you shouldn't need those anymore at this point
I dmd u my artifacts
I was going for copies of mythics from IC, but they never drop.
Maybe 2-4 the whole time I've been playing
New lightbearers when
When maru banner ends
When the game gets its next big update š
Prob season 4 realistically
Next year
Fifth
I wonder what the Black Friday sails gonna be
Omg I know but I was answering him , hehehe
I guessing boxes like journey but limited to the BF period, or some type of skin sale lol
Something needs to come with boats because asking for raw silver rn is wild.
Not like your selling character based on looksā¦.
This is so incorrect you are clueless
And no I will not elaborate
Wait it's the fourth, why do I keep saying the fifth
maybe the 6th? Possibly even the 7th
Chat, important questions: Is Rampaging Precession better on Ning Fei than Bellicose Planetismal and if yes/no, why?
rampaging pact right?
Tldr, rampging pact for slot 3, highest dmg bous artifact for that slot. Slot 4 can be bellicose for more weapon dmg or vlaient viel for overall dmg
I heard bellicose for slot 4 unless you have a t6 ning fei then do valient veil
nope, slot 4
this mine
Okay, but do we know if Rampaging Precession has a timer or something? Cuz it gives 10% more weapon dmg than Bellicose and I don't quite get why one would be better over the other
I don't see the downside of Rampaging Precession quite frankly, it sounds to me like constant 40% weapon dmg
Anybody know if Kabrās weapon mastery works with allies?
It does not
Friend just finished his Helhestās offensive artifacts. United and Bellicose
Brutal
Madlad. Iām doing it for my Maru, lmao. I could do it for my Helhest but need to reroll the signature boost to arc boost, then itāll be 4/4
Saint 14 when
I need more rerollers in general
Thatās what he needs frā¦
His weapon mastery states āweapons that fire bullets throughā
Who
Lmaooo man got mad when I showed him the math and keeps blocking me then unblocking whenever he wants to say something
When his own video proves axion would have been better
Where do I go to redeem my code?
Expance
Saint 14 is a titan from Destiny, void titan
top 15 run
I don't know of a game mode called "Expance"
Anyone?
Im done with this server its elitist.
chat is patti a ragebaiter
Guess I canāt talk to you either 
Thx for proving my point. The video of this study on the community is very interesting \
You exist in the leaderboard of my heart š„
I thought United and Hawkeye was the play?
How Saint 14 be moving in Destiny Rising if he appears
No no i work 12 hour shifts and avoid discord cuz most users are genuinley insane and mentaly ill. That is a good representaion of u tho
Oof
cya I have seen enough
Especially @acoustic silo
What do you work in?
The child labor mines in india
Youāre worse lmfao
It makes sense lol
Miners are usually 12 hours in the mines
Why are we going after people
Why Bambieta in bikini in your profile?
Donāt overthink it man⦠just remember that even their own game doesnāt care about them
Chill I'm just joking
I find it funny that the dude who cried elitist left and immediately made the server less elitist
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Also hi Cody
What were y'all even arguing about for his feelings to be this hurt?
Last time I argued with him, it was because his tests were wrong
He doesnāt understand the safety precautions of locking new users from image and gif perm
Even if ur account is old, doesnāt mean you canāt come to a server you donāt care about and spam nsfw and war crimes 
Ohh that's dangerous, that's how those pron raids happen
Taniks sent a text wall in response. It was that bad 
How the guardian be moving in Warframe
Alright y'all, let's stop harping on the topic of the user who just left the server. Y'all made them leave, we don't need to keep talking it.
For real
It doesn't make sense to keep talking about him anymore
Come carry me in C. Ops then
There is no carry in this game
So is there a small summary? I have seem something going on here for like 9 Hours
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Megladon
There is, let's bring each other up
Just because someone is typing for ages... that was a joke please dont do it
Hawkeye is okay but doesnāt always proc(distance thing). Bellicose is a consistent 30% weapon damage bonus, youāre able to keep up all of the time if you space out your drones and Salvo. Confined Axion and Hawkeye are both the next options. Confined is a better Hawkeye for Helhest, but both are similar in damage
Nah he just been farming endless singularities since Helhest released lmao
Confined is really better than Hawkeye? I figured the Hawkeye uptime would be better right?
I wanted to save for the next unit, but I really like Hellhest. Wanna just build her for the fun of it.
