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[robust sequoia]

So is Concerto no good on Gwynn in comparison?

[vapid ibex]

Ima use these on riot shotgun

[vapid ibex]

Concerto is the go to, riot does 0 damage and is useless after volleying

[robust sequoia]

Okay, phew! Concerto is 3/4 built… but I’ve been underwhelmed with Gwynn these last several weeks.

[naive ingot]

Am I? Just got mvp in shifting

[spice nova]

lol

[karmic chasm]

Oh it’s a pack mate

[nimble plank]

bruhhh i'm trying to enjoy some shifting gates just for some guy to kill me in 3 hits while i can't even see him, is it always this annoying?

[devout horizon]

[twilit thistle]

Respawning restricted.

[devout horizon]

Yes. I avoid all pvp stuff like the plague due to the game not really being balanced around it

[devout horizon]

Is this the destiny equivalent of “why do I hear boss music”

[twilit thistle]

@naive ingot is the boss.

[devout horizon]

Trueeee

[nimble plank]

welp gotta do it tho, rewards are nice and i also have a few event quest that give lumia leaves

[empty kettle]

Could be changed, but we will never know till act 2

[simple plank]

Why Gwynn when Jolder

[frigid kraken]

Why Burger King when McDonald ahh question

[frigid kraken]

Well depend. If you wanna make gweyn viable you need to use riot shotgun this cycle

[karmic chasm]

Oh they banned that word ok. Burger King is buns, no pun intended

[simple plank]

Both of those are bad

[frigid kraken]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356445553784918087/1398715172184526888/Virtuosa_smash.gif

[devout horizon]

Give Gwynn a street sweeper and see what happens

[brittle stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/sixseven-six-seven-six-seve-67-gif-14143337669032958349

[devout horizon]

Or a USAS-12

[devout horizon]

Full auto shotgun would be hilarious

[true mauve]

It is balanced it uses a "Fair Play" mechanic and sets alot of stuff to baseline levels including lightbearers. Your hp and shield are only 250/500 respectively

[devout horizon]

“Fair play” yeah okay tell that to Maru

[true mauve]

Maru is easy to kill, that Octant shotty does it everytime

Ning dash through shield shoot her in back, melee her, i mean alot of options. Do you just shoot kabr barrier when he drops it or move around?

[devout horizon]

I meant the fact she can one shot you with her cannon last I heard

[true mauve]

Maru requires a step back, she punishes fast and rash play

[half sun]

so who do yall use for shifting gates and why

[indigo solar]

Note that your health has 50% DR so your effective HP is 1000

[true mauve]

I dont believe it in pvp

[half sun]

fair play my pinky toe that game need to redefine fair play

[devout horizon]

Btw what counters Ning

[true mauve]

Best ones are Ning Fei and Umeko, mobility and map presence. Estella and Wolf are good also lots of dmg, overshields, heals, and lastly Corruption debuff stops heals. Those were the 4 top meta on leaderboard last season, Maru has a chance also

[vapid ibex]

Finnala, she just doesn’t die and one shots with her skill

[true mauve]

Umeko

Anyone that can predict a jump and keep some distance honestly, even Wolf can lay the smackdown on him

[frigid kraken]

Kabr and Estela been my nightmares lately, though I do find fun in playing helhest lately in shifting

[true mauve]

Ning isnt some broken gsent character, he can dash 3 times in a row and players rely on it too much

[half sun]

umeko just has shadow step i dont see that benefit in sg

[frigid kraken]

You make so much ammo from ads and you 1 shot if you have salvo

[true mauve]

Scout rifle, sniper rifle 1 shots, camouflage, aoe super that 1 shots, double dash...

[inner galleon]

Yeah helhest is Prtty fun I just be zooming and melting stuff with rc

[true mauve]

Estella since buff is ridic, can casts while she shoots

Heir apparent buff was also not needed cuz wtf

[frigid kraken]

What the thing with kabr though, no idea what make him so good, but I feel like I just get 1 shot from him

Some fights I don’t even get to shoot him (or his barrier) and I die

[true mauve]

He shoots through shield and procs wpn mastery, his Gallows auto homes void rockets

He has same weapons as estella which have crazy range for full auto

[frigid kraken]

gallow void blast auto home? Or it just kabr mastery

[true mauve]

Just gallow, it launches 2 homing void missiles

Ads are super aggressive also, they can kill you easy now

[frigid kraken]

I never knew that lmao

[indigo solar]

Try it yourself, you'll see your guns do half damage when enemies are on hp

[frigid kraken]

Yeah the data tower zone (idk what it called) you actually have to kill the ads now or you’ll actually die if they keep spawning

[true mauve]

Its opened new win conditions though. You can almost just farm minions now

[glass needle]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[frigid kraken]

Just move outside the blue zone and temp return to normal

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/veronica-mars-veronica-mars-season1-jason-dohring-you-think-you-know-somebody-hulu-gif-17064444

[frigid kraken]

Do you have time to do some testing for me

[indigo solar]

What do you need tested?

[glass needle]

I want the snow. I want the snow of all snows. I want the blizzard of all blizzards. A snow apocalypse in all states

[glass needle]

Amazing weather

[south agate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1426575184470474802/1437191679747821668/GIF_20251109_212624_047.gif

[steady rain]

Any artifacts recommendations for Maru?

[devout horizon]

[bitter estuary]

guys ikora is so S star character

[south agate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1411112993508556876/1427679447485517846/copy_6934D134-105D-44A3-B1FC-0F29BB898321.gif

[pulsar coral]

Is she actually good? Asking honestly

[bitter estuary]

500 packs of ikoras 😂

[south agate]

YES

[dim sinew]

Yes, shes very good for calamity ops

[inner galleon]

Ikora is nice I just find maru plays style more enjoying

[bitter estuary]

yes she outdamages helhest and better than estela in sustained burst

[devout horizon]

😭

[inner galleon]

Whooo ?!!

[bitter estuary]

with the new exotic you can do 1 million dps easily

[inner galleon]

You are no out-damaging a helhest …

[bitter estuary]

you can shred through spread/piercing/rapid-fire shinkas easily

[dim sinew]

have you played the latest Cal ops tho?

[honest kindle]

You jsut have to be careful Ikora doesnt brick your game

[inner galleon]

Yes I have

[honest kindle]

Shes so OP

[dim sinew]

yeah, she's so op for it, she outdmges

[south agate]

[devout horizon]

This is wild

[bitter estuary]

you can actually clear both expanse with ikora in 3 minutes

[inner galleon]

I havent seen it the ikoras ive played with haven’t came close ..

[devout horizon]

Cody boutta kill my buddies for doing some mild trolling when like 2 others are online

[vocal hawk]

Actively trying to mislead new server members with stuff like doctored screenshots is in fact against server rules. Cut it out.

[south agate]

But for real, Ikora is not half bad, Maru is just better as a Spread Character

[lunar jay]

ikora seasons

[inner galleon]

I don’t have her built I ended up started with maru since I just pulled her I have ikoras talent tree maxed but I’ll give her a shot after maru

[devout horizon]

That’s a real screenshot btw

[boreal river]

So what gonna drop with another waifu character 😭

[devout horizon]

Like it’s a clean 80k

[vocal hawk]

The maximum power a character can get is something like 75030

[bitter estuary]

jokes aside t4 ikora can clear ads faster than maru

[south agate]

She's great in activities specifically tied to her, aka current Challengemode Surrounded Campaign Mission, outside of it Maru absolutely clears

[boreal river]

Very expensive and difficult reach to

[lunar jay]

i hate it so much that i have no choice but to pull maru or play ikora. Can we have nice things and how long does this calamity ops last so i know when to come back 😭

[devout horizon]

That’s a 5 star only thing. Anyways, I’ll stop trolling

[dim sinew]

clearly not an Ikora main, Ikora doesnt troll

[devout horizon]

I apologize. Invest in whatever character you want tho. Push everything to the limits

[lunar jay]

also u can smell the satire i dont think its fooling any freewill users

[bitter estuary]

because it is

[vocal hawk]

Y'all had a guy with two messages in the server asking if y'all were being serious

[dim sinew]

yeah what the hell Noobish

[lunar jay]

i am not an ikora enjoyer and therefore does not respond to y’all in this context

[frigid kraken]

[devout horizon]

@pulsar coral yo get over here. We need to clear some things up

[bitter estuary]

what if all characters uses light gl and rocket launcher,

[lunar jay]

Acceptable in vault of glass, cringe otherwise

[bitter estuary]

i thought we were trying to be satire

[indigo solar]

4* limit is 74,530

[lunar jay]

😔 im just finding a reason to login

[misty crow]

i dont have access to post a picture in the main chat is there a special way to do it?

[cyan reef]

Hey guys, guess what?

[lunar jay]

Ull get it eventually just gotta hang around

[bitter estuary]

did you get t6 ikora

[vocal hawk]

You need to chat in the server more. After you reach level 3 you'll gain image permissions.

[cyan reef]

No, I'm watching a movie in the theater

[misty crow]

ah, fair enough

[lunar jay]

Actually yes, i pulled helhest banner 110 times for 0 rossi and t6 ikora 😎

[cyan reef]

I'm watching the predator Badlands movie

[boreal river]

Phones off while the movie is playing

[cyan reef]

It's not playing right now

[dim sinew]

you should play Destiny Rising during the movie

[devout horizon]

Anyways, how’s y’all’s days going

[vocal hawk]

i was about to say

[lunar jay]

Horrible i have a fever with 39c and no games to play

[devout horizon]

Jesus

[dim sinew]

Have you considered playing Destiny Rising?

[bitter estuary]

if you main ikora in expanse, it will cure your fever

[devout horizon]

Star bro 😭

[lunar jay]

Yes, i logged in, check activities, see ikora, closes out

[honest kindle]

Hey guys I just invested all of my resources into Ikora because you all said she was good, cant wait to try her out!

[frigid kraken]

Pokemon za if you have switch

[south agate]

PLEASE NO

[lunar jay]

Bought that for my sis on switch, gotta wait till shes done with it lol

[coarse sparrow]

This was a dream in week one, it is now a commonality

[honest kindle]

Oh wait, not its fine. I didnt save

[bitter estuary]

NOOOO SHES WORSE THAN FINNALA

you will suffer in 120s cooldown

[south agate]

Thank god

[dim sinew]

Play Finnala instead?

[devout horizon]

Let’s not start going for Finnala

[bitter estuary]

finalla t6 best!!!!

[south agate]

I've got 7 crossbows lol, I feel you

[vocal hawk]

What's that? Turn the slowmode up to 120s? Give me a minute /s.

(no)

[karmic chasm]

Or Shin…

[south agate]

[finite gazelle]

What do we think of dvergar drill

[vocal hawk]

I like it a lot

[lunar jay]

Solid but no solid users aside maru
Probably best bp wep released so far

[karmic chasm]

Misinformation!

[south agate]

It looks, uhm, interesting

[bitter estuary]

your chance to recycle all and get yourself the twin tail rocket launcher

[finite gazelle]

Yeah I figured

[devout horizon]

Bro

[bitter estuary]

SCROLL UP

[karmic chasm]

Fast reload, plenty of damage, it just feels good tbh

[south agate]

I'm not making the same mistake twice Cody xD

[cyan reef]

The movie I'm watching is also in three

[flint aurora]

Do not trust these people. They know nothing of Ikora

[cyan reef]

3d*

[bitter estuary]

it will be 4d if you main ikora ||/s||

[cyan reef]

I don't believe you

[devout horizon]

Bro we came in just to post a screenshot and now y’all are doubling down

[cyan reef]

Wait my movie's about to play. Got to go guys

[honest kindle]

Enjoy!

[glass needle]

Ughhh how are you still alive if it’s 39?

[lunar jay]

wow geez thank you

[vocal hawk]

102f is awful but survivable

[devout horizon]

104 is the limit

[karmic chasm]

Yea once you get up into 104-5 you might literally be cooked

[glass needle]

Ohhhh 102 nvm.

[floral abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/fred-flintstone-abacus-the-flintstones-bookkeeping-calculation-gif-4844993792848328791

[lunar jay]

it feels horrible but like, im still breathin

[glass needle]

I know American math

[vocal hawk]

Take care of yourself

[lunar jay]

hes a real one

[willow otter]

First roll

[karmic chasm]

Peak

[willow otter]

I had 11 and did a single roll bc my ocd

[vivid turret]

I did not realize you were capped to 1200 battle pass XP per week. I pulled Maru but the earliest I can get her exotic grenade launcher is 3 weeks from now, no matter how much I play. Feels really bad man.

[willow otter]

I didn’t get the last camo from the last szns engram

The main one to pull

[true mauve]

Who does most dps in game

[kind slate]

Hi

[south agate]

Or you pull out the wallet

[atomic rivet]

Ikora if we are being honest.

[vagrant spear]

Ikora

[south agate]

Atm Helhest (unobtainable, banner just ended)

[bitter estuary]

ikora ||actually it's helhest||

[devout horizon]

I’m no longer associated with y’all

[boreal river]

The power of the wallet can save you

[true mauve]

Ikora

[glass needle]

Don’t you love when coworkers give out your entire schedule too a random customer

[south agate]

Creditus Cardius, Savior of the Gates of Time

[bitter estuary]

we love ikora

[dim sinew]

Ikora

[floral abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/ricolino-scolari-gif-12061360726599077047

[low perch]

Got two Marus in one pull

[willow otter]

Do you have to pull this camo one at a time? I can only equip this to like 3 gun skins

[low perch]

Can’t share the pic tho for some reason

[willow otter]

And can it go on other guns

[karmic chasm]

Rossi with saizo

[true mauve]

Sus af, Pic or didnt happen

[low perch]

Bro like I literally can’t add it 😭😭😭

[south agate]

And we get reprimanded by Cody for misinformation...

[lunar jay]

right now is probably helhest or maru burst

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/wyaking-gif-9712475764034023502

[low perch]

Do I gotta do something to add attachments in this channel?

[lunar jay]

Rossi on issakis is probably pretty high too

[karmic chasm]

It’s currently untested so we can’t verify that it’s false!

[true mauve]

Fire Rush 🔥

[floral abyss]

My friend, he doesn’t have the appropriate discord server level

[lunar jay]

No testing require we just bongwater math it from multiplier

[glass needle]

They’re not even supposed to do that. Safety issue

[dusk socket]

Is this better on primary or power/heavy weapon?

[willow otter]

What do I do with the glow things? Does anyone even care about them

[low perch]

What lvl do I gotta be?

[lunar jay]

Power cus they usually receives less

[true mauve]

How am i supposed to know a closed alpha doesnt have appropriate level? He has name color and symbol that I dont have

[devout horizon]

Check roles

[floral abyss]

Server level 3

[dusk socket]

.

[true mauve]

Im not a mod

[low perch]

Bruhhhhh

[south agate]

Go down one more tab and find the Moor Decal, you can polish it

[glass needle]

Lvl 29 actually 🤓 🤓 🤓

[lunar jay]

Power?

[half sun]

Double dash? Umeko has double dash?

[floral abyss]

Hush you

-#

[true mauve]

Talent 2 iirc

[devout horizon]

I can’t tell if this is satire

[vocal hawk]

Go to a matching decal, hit "polish"
In this case you need a Perfect quality Moor decal

[south agate]

What level do I need to be to become mod?

[vocal hawk]

It's got a moderately high chance to just fail and eat the glow item though

[low perch]

K I’ll just yap a lot then

[devout horizon]

Level not-an-Ikora-main

[true mauve]

Oof

[half sun]

You havent seen me play then cause she dies alot

[true mauve]

She die alot

[lunar jay]

Heard the rate was bugged on day one and couldnt fail. No idea if. Fixed

[devout horizon]

It got fixed iirc

[lunar jay]

Rip

[devout horizon]

It went from not failing to not succeeding

[vocal hawk]

It seems more like it's actually 40% now

[half sun]

Bring a halberd to a gunfight get wrecked

[south agate]

Last season it felt like 20

[glass needle]

[vocal hawk]

cody the rat is a statistical outlier and should not be counted

[lunar jay]

I dont trust netease anw

[south agate]

HOLY YAP

[true mauve]

Bring gun to a xbowfight get wrecked

[half sun]

Well i used rossi and got wrecked alot

[glass needle]

I’ve tried becoming one numerous times. I get denied

[true mauve]

Ning. Who said Rossi 💀

[lunar jay]

Very accurate

[floral abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/big-hero6-baymax-there-there-patting-head-pat-head-gif-17634358873307423130

[lunar jay]

tbh with estella buff, shes S tier now

[glass needle]

But I know why lol 😂

[devout horizon]

I’d try becoming mod but I think today just dampened those chances

[karmic chasm]

Me 🤚

[half sun]

Need 30 more pulls to get rossi...sadly using leafs too since game not giving me the boats

I mean ning

[low perch]

How’d you get that dank multi color role?

[willow otter]

Does anyone really care about these

[oblique geyser]

how do we post pic here ?

[lunar jay]

Especislly for t6 estellas, altho ning is just too fast and unless light power becomes static, fastest char are the best

[glass needle]

Contributor

[low perch]

Ah cool

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/why-persian-room-cat-guardian-but-why-trendizisst-anyaboz-gif-2156104475561014590

[willow otter]

?

[willow otter]

Level up

[true mauve]

Its worth at this point

[oblique geyser]

which level?

[vocal hawk]

You can polish that up to Perfect

#bots-playground

[true mauve]

I like the glowy ones

[willow otter]

Ty

[vocal hawk]

Glow decals are fun

[willow otter]

Level 3 my g

[oblique geyser]

tyty

[devout horizon]

Which is level 4 with the bot iirc? You go to level 0 first

[willow otter]

Yuh

[karmic chasm]

He’s my Zing

[willow otter]

I just hit level 3 lol so I can finally send pics

[oblique geyser]

need to speak more to get expe now lol

[floral abyss]

The corresponding rank role is = 1 number below the associated server level

[oblique geyser]

level 2 half way

[glass needle]

Ya it’s a very very very small group of us that got the role. We helped out a lot during the alpha directing people on what to do and stuff. Also not having controversial stuff being said and what not. And just over all being nice in chat. They’ll open the role up to more people later down the road

[karmic chasm]

And then there’s the Sherpa role…

[vocal hawk]

Rank 2/Level 3 is image perms

[rotund stirrup]

What is Maru best artifacts

[glass needle]

We don’t count that

[vocal hawk]

Blazar set

[rotund stirrup]

All blazer

[vocal hawk]

To my understanding yes

[karmic chasm]

I decided to do blazar + bellicose in slot 4

[winged lichen]

Why is Jolder so low?
Nada's Jolder has more dps than most Helhests

[oblique geyser]

rampaging pact for 3rd arte is max rn but maybedue to a bug

[karmic chasm]

Yea but not the best helhests. And she’s that low because I was asked by numerous people to move her below Rossi. Dps isn’t the only thing in consideration here, so overall, the consensus was she was bad enough to be demoted from A tier

[winged lichen]

What does Rossi do better than Jolder?

I'm just surprised since Jolder is a viable off-meta pick for this rotation's insane calamity op

[karmic chasm]

Over shield and reducing damage output time from enemies (he does it with more than just bosses, but if it was just bosses Jolder would be better)

[karmic chasm]

That is true, also for GMs. I tried to make this for all PvE content tho

It’s been edited several times

[winged lichen]

Wouldn't Rossi be above Gwynn then?

Since Gwynn and Jolder have similar dps now, if not Jolder leading by a bit against bosses

[karmic chasm]

Her burst damage is insane tbh, at least on impact cycles

[bitter estuary]

no, because gwynn has octant for burst dps

the only thing going for rossi is piercing and rapid fire coverage

[karmic chasm]

His Their survivability is straight up on par with Jolder imo

If I could just have them at the exact same spot I would. That’s why they are both at the front of B

[glass needle]

Gwynn will forever be #1

[winged lichen]

Gwynn and Jolder are also multi coverage with Rapid/Impact, with Jolder having Spread and Gwynn soft countering Spread.
Also doesn't Octant have half the dps of Concerto + Eternal?
I think Concerto/Eternal might still have lower DPS than CLY2, can't find footage for the former

[rotund stirrup]

Which heavy GL is better for maru void or solar

[winged lichen]

I think meta is the void one because Polyploidy gives an insane +120% with 100% uptime

[rotund stirrup]

What perks

[karmic chasm]

Rossi l/Ning still shred impact btw

[naive ingot]

Thank you

[winged lichen]

Looks like Auto/Polyploidy
Solidarity is normally very good but cannot be upgraded on Spread weapons yet

[glass needle]

Not you, shark stealer

[naive ingot]

My blade thirsts for blood.

[winged lichen]

I thought it struggled in lvl 80+?
Isn't that why the meta was Ning/Estela/Gwynn for the impact ClamOp?

[glass needle]

Go cry in the corner about it

[naive ingot]

My tears could heal the traveller but I don't cry. Go eat some jellied eels

🙃

[hushed crown]

@naive ingot

[naive ingot]

Awwwwwwww so cute

[karmic chasm]

Honestly don’t remember. Doesn’t seem to struggle much for me. It’s still soft coverage but it’s there. If you want, I can do a long breakdown of why I think Rossi is equal or even slightly better.

[frigid kraken]

Minus the Estela, meta was double ning gweyn

[glass needle]

Ewww

[naive ingot]

You made me eat pineapple. Which I will make extinct.

[winged lichen]

Oh right!
Keep forgetting Estela ramp up doesn't work in Ops T-T

[naive ingot]

🙃

[glass needle]

https://tenor.com/view/pinapple-express-gif-26197475

https://tenor.com/view/ananas-pineapple-pizza-watt-italians-favourite-gif-6365865546685652234

[naive ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19494362

[glass needle]

Eat you’re pineapple pizza

[gaunt dome]

dam for my next stage of expanse i dont have any characters built up enough to do either ark or voids rip best get building

[glass needle]

https://tenor.com/view/pineapple-pizza-pineapple-on-pizza-gif-14541297567664195114

[naive ingot]

Hmmm let me think. No

[glass needle]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-wizard-saruman-so-you-have-chosen-death-gif-24634148

[frigid kraken]

Is it called pine apple between they cross breeder a apple and a pine tree?

[naive ingot]

Chosen? I am Death

[sinful totem]

What should be the order of focus for grinding the new mythic weapons?

[glass needle]

Nahh you chose it

[naive ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/daoud-gif-2991630326776407060

[glass needle]

💀💀

[naive ingot]

"There is no repentance here. Only atonement"

[frigid kraken]

Well it depend on who you have/main
Maru/wolf- farm new heavy launcher launcher (or void assault rifle if you maxed smart bomb got wolf)
Other then that it basically it farming the new handcannon is good as well, since next update is probably a handcannon unit
(Cause why add 2 hand cannon when only attal can use it)

[winged lichen]

pinecone does have a very similar shell to pineapple

[summer ledge]

Strange. I see no sink at the door to let in in the first place.

[glass needle]

I eat twice as much a day…. Cheese is life.. life is cheese

[karmic chasm]

@winged lichen I know firing range is not accurate, but this is the highest impact shinka level in the range, which is still comparable to 80+ shinkas in the wild. I would consider this soft coverage. With Ring of safeguarding, I’d instantly get most of my overshield back + start healing from ring of abundance if my shield broke (it didn’t in this clip)
All that to say Rossi hard covers two shinkas and soft covers impact in most content. Mahamayuri is still built different

[glass needle]

Btw I got the bearista bear. $7k any offers?

I know what I got

Scalpers. All over market place for over $200. One sold for around $1k

[karmic chasm]

Yep, I have a burning hatred for that kind of business

[true mauve]

A what

[karmic chasm]

Bearista

[glass needle]

Tell her to empty out a honey bear bottle and their ya go, a free bottle!!!

[true mauve]

Sounds like I'm in trouble i didn't get one. What's it do

[karmic chasm]

I’d rather break into a scalper’s domicile

[winged lichen]

Is it a bear stanley cup?

[true mauve]

She gonna kill me

[glass needle]

I’ve been low balling them all and then reporting as a scam lol 😂

[glass needle]

A bear Starbucks glass

[karmic chasm]

It’s a glass bear shaped Starbucks mug. Silly thing but since it was limited edition, neck beard scalpers went crazy

[gritty rune]

So close to perfection

[glass needle]

Also Starbucks workings were taking them too

[karmic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-rogue-one-krennic-this-c-lose-gif-10935154

[gritty rune]

This is worse right?

At least it seems so from stats cos ability affects supers too?

[sinful totem]

Rocket bad?

[glass needle]

Death too you

[acoustic summit]

Why do smgs suck so much

[gritty rune]

Tbh could be perfect jolder piece cos she uses del kufi anyways

[frigid kraken]

I don’t play ikora so idk

[sinful totem]

Is the shotgun bad?

[naive ingot]

Ikora doesn't use shotguns in Rising.

[sinful totem]

Obviously, I’m just asking if the new shotgun is any good

[naive ingot]

I've not tried it yet. I'll goto firing range to find out

[vocal hawk]

Spinosaur + Karmic has some potential but I'm doubtful it's better than Line + Karmic

[flint aurora]

Rocket good

[flint aurora]

Well, it did get that mod boost as well

[vocal hawk]

That's part of the reason why I'm saying that it has potential

[tough goblet]

i’ve seen it up for 500+

[solar viper]

I didn't even know I could get this without spending a dime

[karmic chasm]

Though she should

[sinful totem]

Does the element of a weapon matter for any characters gameplay outside of dealing enemies elemental shields…?

[lunar jay]

how tf do i get pass this in time

[solar viper]

Basically never

[karmic chasm]

Pray that it glitches out

[lunar jay]

wow i pray my game crashes so i dont have to do calamity solo ever again

[solar viper]

Unless your artifact requires it

[sinful totem]

Gotcha. So like for wolf, I could roll the new void ar at some point and it wouldn’t matter for his gameplay loop

[solar viper]

Yes

[lunar jay]

what's umeko meta loadout

[gusty fossil]

Roll again or pass

[frigid kraken]

Well I’m going off of what can be used right now
-void assault rifle good for wolf in calamity for shields
-void heavy launcher good for wolf and maru since.. well void launcher with auto loading
-both handcannon really good perks but only attal can run it right now (worth farming since next unit probably use it
-shotgun no since Gweyn want to use riot to be able to break spread shika
-rocket launcher idk since ikora no good practical use (MY OPINION)

[gusty fossil]

I’m gonna buy the drill so this is the best roll for me

[karmic chasm]

TL and Iza pretty sure

[solar viper]

If you have the resources, you can keep rolling

[inner galleon]

Autoloading feels smoother especially with the mod for it

[gusty fossil]

Hm

[karmic chasm]

I’d go for auto loading if you are getting the drill

[inner galleon]

For the GL ?

[sinful totem]

Is riot actually good

I feel like I never see anyone use that exotic

[gusty fossil]

I am

[karmic chasm]

If they are a Gwynn main it’s mandatory this cycle

[frigid kraken]

That up to interpretation, good combo with the mythic sidearm and can generate a bunch of orbs at once, but the reason why you want it this calamity is that you can break spread shika for it

[sinful totem]

Oh I didn’t know it had that functionality

[gusty fossil]

Also which is the best break point for Maru

[karmic chasm]

What does that mean

[gusty fossil]

Copy

Talent tree-

[karmic chasm]

Ohh oh, not sure tbh. I’m going for T1 but will continue pulling even if I get that since she’s now my void main

[inner galleon]

Are you going to main maru ?

[sinful totem]

Does explosive payload on scout rifles have any utility on spread shinkas

[gusty fossil]

Yes and no, but she my void main

[inner galleon]

You don’t have to get any copies but t1 lets you spam the cannon more

[gusty fossil]

Hm

[karmic chasm]

(Spamming is always good)

[gusty fossil]

I will consider if the next hero is good

[gusty fossil]

I use wolf so I enjoy ability abuse

[naive ingot]

Definitely. Invective will be mine

[karmic chasm]

Well she’ll be gone by then

[inner galleon]

Yeah we love a good ability spam

[sinful totem]

Ability spam is what makes Destiny Destiny

[prime lichen]

ability spam = lore accurate guardian

[frigid kraken]

I really think Maru isn’t worth the talents, she has a major issue right now

[inner galleon]

Maru needs some better kind of super regen

[lunar jay]

am i crazy or i havent been meeting helhest with more than 15mil dmg in calamity?

[sinful totem]

Is super regen in rising just tied to a timer?

[prime lichen]

still so glad he got closure with tfs, and carried the expansion for me 🤣

[karmic chasm]

What’s sad and a bit weird is that technically the argument can be made that tfs Cayde is not the same consciousness as forsaken Cayde. For the guardian, there was closure, but for Cayde, it’s almost like he came back as a perfect clone of light.

[lunar jay]

gimme icarus dash in here ong https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1411052222732697702/1430132045471813774/whatthedogdoin.gif?ex=69125f02&is=69110d82&hm=91b78748a784f64b48e0990d73f4d6f1b7f2897d413a79bd135dd5f2e7d1a203&

3 days left until my blessing expires, im free soon

[solar viper]

You can take on everyone in PvP

[lunar jay]

i will miss you guys

[gusty fossil]

Not really, I at least can see what the hero is and their ability

[karmic chasm]

What does that mean lol

[lunar jay]

current patch doesnt interests me, im taking a break for something else

will be back next char, i have a spark ready for it

from rotations, im guessing its gonna be a solar support or shielder. (finnala upgrade?)

[gusty fossil]

Even if Maru is horrible, at least she a better ilkora that atually help team and don’t die after 10 second

[sinful totem]

Is she really that bad

[inner galleon]

Ikora isn’t bad lol

[gusty fossil]

Ilkora have barely sustained and it feel like a drag if you want to play for fun and not clenching your cheek to survive while shooting

[lunar jay]

i read her kits and i dont see how she helps your team ?

[gusty fossil]

Shield

[lunar jay]

all my 10 calamityes done not a single maru is shielding anything, they break in 3 hits

[flint aurora]

Bah, the playstyles are meant to be different. Ikora is much more aggressive

[gusty fossil]

That because they haven’t form a set yet, she not even out for that long

[lunar jay]

wrong again, my clan mate has already went ahead and done that, it still breaks in 4-5 hits after

[karmic chasm]

I put Maru in A tier honestly, just not eh best A tier

[lunar jay]

the barrage was overtuned, you cant play as intended, if you stand still behind people barriers, you will die

[gusty fossil]

Hm wait for maru buff then i guess

[inner galleon]

I mean there is a lot of cover so the shield it’s situational but then again I’m a helhest main so I’ll just ult to tank hits for cover lol

[lunar jay]

im gonna be honest and say maru is a better gwynn lol

they both serves the same role, except gwynn is locked behind her engagement range and mediocre super

[gusty fossil]

Ay at least it usable and fun, i use Jolder too so you can see what type of preson i am

[inner galleon]

Maru isn’t getting a buff , she’s fine the way she is since she’s a different playstyle

[lunar jay]

while maru is shredding stuff at any range because she's just better, she's doing a lot more in current calamity too cus it benefits her

[sinful totem]

I meant Maru lol

[inner galleon]

In my experience maru is just taken down spread shinka in my cal ops run

[sinful totem]

I was gonna see about t6ing her and Ning Fei later on this month

[inner galleon]

And any spread character can do that with ease

[devout horizon]

How often do people use Ning’s super?

[inner galleon]

I’ve seen it used once or twice both in shifting gates lol

[karmic chasm]

All the time in PvP, he’s so hard to kill when he pops it

[devout horizon]

And all pvp content doesn’t allow talents, right?

[true mauve]

My wife loves starbucks too 😭

[twilit thistle]

I have never seen one pop that and survive. Especially in iron bar.

[true mauve]

Shifty allows talents

[gusty fossil]

She the fun type not the serious grind one

[devout horizon]

Why would one pvp mode allow it but not the other

[gusty fossil]

She not that worse and she prefect balance

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[sinful totem]

Who’s the best mythic y’all

Let’s settle this right now chat

[true mauve]

Diff fair play standards. Shifty doesnt allow weapon mods but iron bar does, artifacts in shifty not iron bar, etc. Diff loadouts for diff content to encourage us to full build

[gusty fossil]

What type you want to count as best?

[true mauve]

Whales can still pseudo-whale in shifty most talents are useless pvp

[gusty fossil]

Damge, tank, ability or mechanic?

[wide pulsar]

maru is cracked

[true mauve]

Most consistent goat since launch across 90% of content and on leaderboards until recent. Ning Slay

[karmic chasm]

They were on your team actually when I saw it lol

[sinful totem]

I say overall for both solo and team

[scarlet kraken]

Helhest for burst, Estella for sustained, Ning for ad clearing.

[devout horizon]

And jolder for for survivability

[karmic chasm]

Nah just play Rossi

[wide pulsar]

maru has better survivability than jolder now

[devout horizon]

Ah yes Rossi the mythic

[true mauve]

He just that good

[cyan reef]

Movies finished and it was awesome as hell

[karmic chasm]

He should have been

[devout horizon]

How so

[gusty fossil]

Ning and helhest, helhest if you want both ye

[karmic chasm]

Helhest is just great yea

If I hadn’t fallen head over heels for Rossi I’d have her as my arc main

[gusty fossil]

Ning have strong damge but he the solo type

[sinful totem]

So I shouldn’t invest in tan to 70k+

[gusty fossil]

Tan still very strong

[devout horizon]

If you enjoy playing tan, go for it

[solar pawn]

Lol the NRG server lets people do the @ everyone ping

[karmic chasm]

Yea Tan is good, I’m bringing him to 70 k for sure

[sinful totem]

I mean I do, I just want useful variety is all

[devout horizon]

The what

[wide pulsar]

bring both into shifting gates and it'll become quite clear

[solar pawn]

What you mean the what...

[gusty fossil]

The risk is gimmicky and fragile

[devout horizon]

I don’t judge viability off shifting gates but alr. Both t6 I’m assuming?

[wide pulsar]

no, my jolder is T6 but maru is only T2

[karmic chasm]

Yea Maru is crazy with the overshield gain

[devout horizon]

So is Jolder tbf

[karmic chasm]

You literally get overshield from using an ability shield. That’s three times the shield for half the price

[wide pulsar]

but even outside of shifting gates it becomes incredibly obvious which one is more tanky. being able to TURN INCOMING DAMAGE into overshield is so incredibly busted

i love jolder, but maru wins in this aspect, not even close

[devout horizon]

Jolder’s whole kit creates overshield iirc

[karmic chasm]

Jolder gains it similarly to Rossi. It’s slower and requires more effort imo

[wide pulsar]

just her q im pretty sure

[devout horizon]

Nope. Super does it. Shield throw does it. And her slam does it (it extends overshield)

[true mauve]

She triggers recovery and heals alot

Only her shield throw and super, slam doesnt unless its on a talent maybe

[devout horizon]

If you have overshield, all overflow healing is converted to overshield

[karmic chasm]

I love playing Rossi and having most of my health and all my overshield back after a near death experience

[wide pulsar]

... this is just wrong? shield throw does not give overshield

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[wide pulsar]

nvmd its on recall i see

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/please-tell-me-more-listening-sam-elliot-the-ranch-gif-15067753

[bitter estuary]

anyone here a moderator in the ngp discord, there's a scammer in the server

[karmic chasm]

No

[fiery musk]

I'm surprised that server allows @ everyone pings from normal users. loll

[sinful totem]

Clearly an oversight

[fiery musk]

"Oversight" is the name of the game.

[true mauve]

You are not a mod now?

[gusty fossil]

Wait no crap, you don’t know ?

[karmic chasm]

Pretty sure that server was made by non discord users

[gusty fossil]

#📥│contact-mod

[wide pulsar]

even still though, im not sure how jolder could out-survive a maru. id argue shifting gates is the best place to test though considering it's the most dangerous activity in the game

[true mauve]

I dumped Jolder week1 of launch

[devout horizon]

If you have overshield from, say, recalling the shield and you also have full rage, performing the slam will refill your health based on the rage and all overflow healing (literally 100% of it) becomes overshield

[true mauve]

Bro you gotta stop talking to Donovan-17 and go to master cal ops

[true mauve]

Bruhhh whaaa why do they always get dumped on in pvp then

[devout horizon]

That’s a great question

[twilit owl]

NGP server just got more traffic in 10 minutes than it has in a month

[wide pulsar]

master calam ops is NOT dangerous gangalang

[true mauve]

Whats them weird lightning clouds everyone crying about

[tulip pivot]

damn this server reset f'd me up...middle of the day for me...

[wide pulsar]

maybe this week with the current affix, but neither maru NOR jolder is surviving that stuff anyways

[twilit owl]

I can't play cards until 830pm! 💀

[bitter estuary]

fair

[real delta]

Bruh... i used 3 dice items in 1 artifact and it keeps failing over and over... is not a cheap thing XD very limited, how come it can fail 3 times in a row hahah

[true mauve]

You didnt get the guarantee one

[devout horizon]

Oh wait. Overshield given is based off of targets hit by the shield, not the damage it does. Hitting fewer targets means less overshield.

That being said, even just 1 point of overshield allows for the slam to refill it gradually via overflow healing

[wide pulsar]

that's kinda how chance based mechanics work

[real delta]

yea, would be good if we haven't had only a max of 6 total to get bro XD

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/so-what-changed-your-mind-vera-bennett-wentworth-why-the-change-of-heart-what-made-you-think-otherwise-gif-22893509

[real delta]

i was able to get 2 4/4 gold now, im trying to get the other 2

[wide pulsar]

i mean, its just a whale mechanic anyways if you want to get good artifact then your best bet is still to just farm them in chaos

[real delta]

for a 4/4 gold farm in Chaos? Not even by farming 2000 a day bro XD that's hard af

[devout horizon]

Keep in mind you need a minimum of one point of overshield present for the slam to start refilling it. Using the slam while having 0 overshield won’t work, but I’m pretty sure gaining overshield after performing the slam and while the regen effect is active will give you overshield

[violet sonnet]

I got multiple 4/4s

[junior heron]

I didn’t have any problems with imbalance until recently, where I keep getting one-shotted :(

[real delta]

u have better odds at winning the lottery twice in a row than getting that 4/4 you want

[wide pulsar]

i mean if you want to max artifacts you'll be farming chaos until you die anyways thanks to refactor mats

[karmic chasm]

Copy protection after T6 should be a thing 🥀

[true mauve]

You confusing me now

[wide pulsar]

... i know you're over selling it but even still its not that hard broski

[violet sonnet]

Just be like me and use 3/4 Exotics and dont care for the Rest

[fluid egret]

lol the ngp discord is going nuts

[devout horizon]

Basically, if no overshield is present, slam doesn’t give overshield.

Overshield has to be there for it to work

[true mauve]

Ok

[fiery musk]

I still don't understand why the NGP server even exists, but I guess I've lost my care at this point.

[true mauve]

By what

[devout horizon]

Rip

[bitter estuary]

i only went there because of free (monthly and barely any) lumia leaves

[karmic chasm]

What I don’t understand is how this discord is official but is comprised of mostly volunteer staff who know very little about what Netease is up to. I know that sounds like I’m throwing shade but it’s odd to me

[devout horizon]

Oh yeah I also love how servitor bosses can’t silence Jolder effectively

[wide pulsar]

that's kinda how every game discord works

[karmic chasm]

Why

[karmic chasm]

Yes and no. Many others have very informed mods

[true mauve]

Thats normal, make server hire people to work for free i mean "volunteer"

[devout horizon]

Slam is immune to it, and using it makes other skills immune temporarily

[fiery musk]

😄 The mysteries of life.

[wide pulsar]

yeah but it shouldnt matter, why would it matter if the mods know what the devs are doing, their jobs barely overlap. mods are mostly here to keep the server running ane make sure people arent crashing out in general

[karmic chasm]

I like bubbling the servitor with Rossi to save us all

[bitter estuary]

I CAN DELETE MESSAGES in the ngp discord also pin

[sage cobalt]

NGP server is descending into chaos rn lmao

[devout horizon]

Peak

[twilit owl]

Better for a community chat; if they were NE employees you'd get cold and manufactured interactions

[junior heron]

Just really strong Lightbearers. I’m usually fine, but then every now and then somebody with maxed out gear comes running by and takes out my whole Fireteam in one go :/

[true mauve]

Maxed gear doesnt apply in PvP, what game mode and who you using?

[sage cobalt]

Unlike in play warframe, in which both DE staff and volunteer moderators partake in chat, it's very fun, i love DE

[devout horizon]

Oh btw does anyone know what suppress does to non-lightbearer enemies?

[junior heron]

Oh, then idk. I use Wolf and if you give me a minute, I’ll send images of my current setup

[true mauve]

Suppresses them

[sage cobalt]

Uh... yes

[fiery musk]

IMO, NetEase is acting like it's just a publisher that has nothing to do with D:R./

[sage cobalt]

It does yes

[true mauve]

Shifty gates or Iron Bar?

[junior heron]

SG

I need to do Iron Bar at some point but I haven’t gotten around to it yet

[bitter estuary]

i fear it'll be the same with ananta 🥀

[true mauve]

Yeah send your artifacts and gear I will give some tips

[fiery musk]

They just launched Sword of Justice. Very similar over there. I at least know none of the CMs from here are also over there.

[twilit owl]

Holy crap I had no idea DE made Solar Winds on MS DOS!!

[junior heron]

Where should I share it?

[bitter estuary]

well... expected

i hope things change for the better with ananta

[devout horizon]

I should probably check on my wolf artifacts

[bitter estuary]

i thought D:R would be big but i guess netease has their priorities straight

[true mauve]

Here

[fiery musk]

Fun fact. It's taken me <5s to get into any queue for Halo: MCC multiplayer social playlist so far.

[junior heron]

I can’t, I think this channel doesn’t allow images at all

[fiery musk]

Big Team Battle? 5s to start the game.

[devout horizon]

Nah it’s a level thing

[junior heron]

Gosh dang it

[true mauve]

Wolf is actually a killer pick in shifty gates, I like to use inverted guard slot 1 to start at 212 health 635 shield instead of 250/500. Slot2 I reccomend ring of safeguarding for an emergency overshield its ridic good in SG. For AR use Fire Rush and Time Marches On perks best mythic combo ever fr fr. Use exo GL saliksynsi smart thing.

[real delta]

i bet you got 4 4/4 gold from farming XD u say is not hard, have you farmed 500-600 daily for weeks without getting a single one? i did, so ye, it's not easy as you say, that's why they added these items (which i suggested in the suggestion-voting before it happened), because they know it's not an easy task and no one has 8hs a day to farm every day

[junior heron]

You happen to know what level allows me to send images here?

[wide pulsar]

i would love to play this but i wouldnt be able to fight the urge to 100% it on steam, which would take LITERAL years lmfao

[sage cobalt]

They also had hands in other games

[devout horizon]

Either the next level or the one after that

[junior heron]

Mkay

[wide pulsar]

no, you didnt, that or you are literally the most unlucky guy on the planet.

[real delta]

i did... 500-600 is just 2-2:30hs a day of farming with Ning Fei.

[sage cobalt]

And there's a few more

[real delta]

A friend of mine did 1600 a single day, no 4/4 gold (that's 8hs straight)

[devout horizon]

On my wolf, I like to run Ring of Abundace, Healing Veil, Inverted Fury, and Bellicose Planetesimal

[real delta]

@wide pulsar again, how many 4/4 golden artifacts you've farmed so far? tell us XD

[naive ingot]

I've got Halo MCC on Series X, would play online but I've not got Game Pass

[wide pulsar]

yeah i was talking about with pinnacle. complaining about not getting god dops while doing infinite farming is like subjecting yourself to finding a needle in a haystack and then complaioning its too hard to find

[sage cobalt]

They're called exotic artifacts

[real delta]

with or without pinnacle, i used today almost 1000 pinnacle energy, no 4/4

[wide pulsar]

yeah sorry, i dont believe that lmfao

[real delta]

the only thing is getting 3/4 gold, and try to re-roll the 4th, that's the best way, but dices are limited.

[karmic chasm]

Extremely limited, like what

[soft bobcat]

F2P can achieve this in the first week of play. These are my results after playing a f2p account on side. 10~14 hrs didn't measure the play time exactly.

All group activities were done via Matchmaking

[devout horizon]

Wait I forgot what Umeko artifacts are good

[real delta]

imagine thinking im lying, lmao... you're the one who seems to never have farmed this thing ever bro

[wide pulsar]

when was this ss taken

[real delta]

yesterday

i was showing some friends in their discord, thinking where to use them, and i went full chaos as im maxxing out Helhest's artifact power anyway

i kinda surrender on the 4/4 too, best if lucky is 3/4 and then re-roll as i said

i guess at some point they will give us better ways to get these dices without having to put too much money

i just loaded 18K silver more so i can get the 25K guarantee one

[wide pulsar]

btw 4/4 isnt even BiS for most characters, which is likely why i only have a couple. for example, estela wants solar dmg bonus but that isn't a thumbs up attriubute

[junior heron]

Okie dokie, I’ll try this! Thank you!

[real delta]

i know, but for helhest, they're pretty good

[devout horizon]

Unrelenting evo or unrelenting token on Umeko

[junior heron]

So glad I freaking love the Satiyaaliksni Smart Bomb, it’s currently my main grenade launcher lolol

[wide pulsar]

if its giving you so much grief, just use a mythic artifact. helhest only needs 3 good substats anyways, the 4th is an optional ability dmg bonus

my brother was using myths for his helhest for a while and he was hard pushing calam ops just fine

[soft bobcat]

Make sure you do this Side Quest that starts with Morgran as soon as you can!

[upper flume]

bro i miss clicked and went from a 422 attribute score to a 360 attribute artifact i went from 74030 to a 73690 power why meeeee

[rotund junco]

This happened to me and its ABS WILD there is no guard for this

[junior heron]

I actually powered that part up just before you sent that 😂

[upper flume]

so true

[winged lichen]

I get a popup, saying "The selected artifact has lower power, are you sure confirm cancel"
Was it removed?

[junior heron]

Oh dang, I didn’t realize I had a cosmetic for the Satiyaaliksni

[rotund junco]

I actually put in a bug report saying they NEED to disable the button when its a downgrade, cause why would anyone say "OH BOY! A downgrade! Just what I wanted!"

[upper flume]

not for me all i did was click it my mistake and no popup

[twilit thistle]

The fact that there is no support for that is messed up. It shouldn’t even be an option.

[rotund junco]

It only does it on the refine again button, but not the use new attributes button

[winged lichen]

Ohhhh

That def needs to be fixed, scary

[nimble acorn]

Didnt ask

[barren sand]

Skill issue

[upper flume]

hahaha😭

[karmic chasm]

Yea they need to fix this asap. Happened to me too

[barren sand]

You’ll be fine just pay for more stamina brother

[naive ingot]

And me....

[upper flume]

im ftp

[misty marsh]

Then stop matching me with the two idiots that just die constantly?

[upper flume]

i am ftp brother

[barren sand]

Same

[junior heron]

Saaaameeee

[soft bobcat]

We've all made mistakes. My first Exotic to c2 and boost 7 was the Huckleberry.

[misty marsh]

It's specialist 1, I shouldn't be doing 80% of the dmg with ume of all things

[winged lichen]

That bug cost them 720 Pinnacle

[barren sand]

I also skill issued the huckleberry lmao

[upper flume]

this set me back like a month or 2 lol

[soft bobcat]

wdym by that

[barren sand]

I upgraded it too ; ;

[soft bobcat]

fffffffffff

[winged lichen]

Luckily Huckle is the meta atm since CLY2 has the most dps

[soft bobcat]

I mean for Jolder I still think it's great

[fallow swallow]

you were born to top damage as jolder clearly

[upper flume]

its so hard when you get to like 400 att i takes a 2 weeks for just 2 points lol

[barren sand]

Good news is you can turn it into 5 fragments!

[fallow swallow]

need GM strikes to drop spread mods..
population for GM blitz is nonexistent

[winged lichen]

Every 120 pinnacle guarantees at least 10 points

[soft bobcat]

And this too. I haven't even tried this round of Calamity yet..

Maybe Hucklberry Ning can be the King

[indigo solar]

I maxed Izzy and then they killed it :(

[fallow swallow]

there was an izzy nerf?

i thought there was just a glitch with honed edge damage making it lower than usual

[junior heron]

Tfw you miscount your board limit in Shadowshaper and mess up your Ketch

[indigo solar]

It did way more damage in the tests, and still did that damage on full release in auto fire mode. Then they removed the damage from auto fire instead of making it the baseline

[junior heron]

I got lucky and got my Prime Servitor though and it won me the match

[winged lichen]

I think honed was higher than usual during the first month of the game, then got fixed/nerfed

[upper flume]

not when it take 32 artifactual essence for 1 lvl and you get 26 per week with 120 pinnacle

[indigo solar]

That was the usual damage based on tests

[fallow swallow]

justice for tan-2

give ALH sniper please

[indigo solar]

Honestly they could totally bring back Izzy damage now that players have maxed mythic guns. No reason it should be doing less damage per shot than a mythic

[devout horizon]

You should never need wolf’s super again

[fallow swallow]

broke: c3 izzy

woke: honed edge pranayama

[winged lichen]

Oh is it 16 for T5? Whoops
Each +1 stat is +10 points (dunno the power)
There's a 26 per week limit? I swear it was 2 per chest = 1 per 5 pinnacle

[fallow swallow]

**searing mark

[upper flume]

ya im ftp so i only get the 120 you get daily

[indigo solar]

T-T honed edge is the Izzy perk, and pranayama is inferior searing mark

[fallow swallow]

gonna need to see damage numbers on that max mag honed edge vs searing mark to accept it as inferior

[winged lichen]

120 Pin = 24 Essence daily right? So 168 weekly instead of 26
Or am I misunderstanding

[fallow swallow]

searing mark is the perk honed edge wishes it could be

[upper flume]

wait lol im geting my dailys and weeks mix up lol

[iron lodge]

I just maxxed pulse from last season

[late hull]

i wonder if netease will do another silver bonus where you get double

[iron lodge]

is new character any good?

[late hull]

i really want to buy more silver but these current prices are wack

[fallow swallow]

polaris lance looks at frat AV TL and wishes it could be half as good

[upper flume]

lol you right hahahha my brain crashed

[late hull]

i like maru a lot. Once you figure out the gameplay loop its a lot of fun

[winged lichen]

Ohhh
Also I wonder if support can fix the Artifact issue, losing 700 pinnacle is quite a lot

[fallow swallow]

real and based

[iron lodge]

better than the last character?

[soft bobcat]

no

[late hull]

i enjoy playing maru more than helhest... although helhest can be really strong, i dont like how slow it is to kill ads with helhest

[vapid ibex]

Terrrrible

[soft bobcat]

but still very good, and very strong

[upper flume]

it was more then 700 im sure

[winged lichen]

Yeah, the current silver emblem reward is 350 USD

[soft bobcat]

#1 PvP Character in the Game

[fallow swallow]

not able to do a fair test but my T6 helhast with C3 RC can empty a room before my T2 Maru can even enter it

[junior heron]

Uggghhhhh I need Drifter to reset already and have an Unrelenting Captain and/or Vanok in his stock—they’d both fit my current deck so well 😭

[iron lodge]

understood 0% of this statement

[vapid ibex]

I unfortunately haven’t died to a single maru in shifting gates in the past 19 hours

[winged lichen]

They are the new meta tank and a menace in pvp (if used right)

[upper flume]

ya lol that almost made want to quit the game lol

[iron lodge]

i dont play pvp so

[soft bobcat]

That doesn't mean anything

[violet sonnet]

Your not supposed to use Salvo Stacks or single Shot RC to adclear /s

[fallow swallow]

why use spread weapons to adclear when RC does the job twice as well ( and dpses better)

[junior heron]

Glad I’m not the only one who gets lost whenever the conversation turns to something like this 😂

[soft bobcat]

I doubt many ppl in the last 72hrs have built a proper PvP or PvE Maru

[winged lichen]

Then probably not worth, since ad clear + tank is not an importatn pve role atm

[iron lodge]

dude i just play the game. about maxed light on estella last season so im just waiting for more keys for unstable thingys

[violet sonnet]

Ima be real for most Content id rather play Maru instead of my Helhest cause i like blowing everything up

[winged lichen]

Estela is decent at everything, so you're safe to wait for a new char imo
Estela with Gallows can fill the same specs as Maru (except tanking)

[late hull]

maru is my void spread character. i refuse to use ikora

[violet sonnet]

Also haha funny padding your Numbers on Trash/Ads

[winged lichen]

Salvo? :>

[iron lodge]

okay, rn im working on tan 2 weapons since almost the whole artifact tree is maxed

[violet sonnet]

Salvo doesnt go Kaboom

[iron lodge]

i want a character with light gl and heavy lmg, that would be great

[violet sonnet]

Also if you use a ALH GL your essentially running around with 12 Salvo Stacks

[winged lichen]

Wonder how that math shakes down
Anyone done Maru DPS test?

[violet sonnet]

Like Helhest is fun if i wanna pump Numbers but lets be real just holding M1 on RC isnt the most exciting Thing

[winged lichen]

I'm a TG + End kind of hel

[iron lodge]

i need like 24 more artifactual essense to at least get my artifacts all to 2820 but i really do not like doing expanse

[violet sonnet]

I pretend i do not see

[winged lichen]

Me and my homies hate expanse

[violet sonnet]

Everytime i see a TG Helhest i expect to outdps them atp

Like stop sitting on your Bow for 90% of the Activity

[iron lodge]

my estella is at 73170, next week i can get her to 73570

[fallow swallow]

tg helhast
more like

bronze damage

[iron lodge]

tg?

[winged lichen]

I still can't figure out End vs Royal

[violet sonnet]

TG Helhest is just Sunk Cost Fellacy dont @ me

[iron lodge]

whats tg mean

[violet sonnet]

Trinity Ghoul

[soft bobcat]

Secret is that EoL is better than QB

[iron lodge]

ohhhhh

[fallow swallow]

change my view: trinity ghoul enjoyers have sunk cost fallacy because they bought 3 copies of it

[iron lodge]

i dont use hellhest so

[acoustic yarrow]

telegram helheist?

[acoustic yarrow]

There is no “QB” so you are right.

[violet sonnet]

Dont care for EOL cause 1. you need the proper exo mods and 2. eol is benefitting more if you sit on your salvo stacks WHICH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT DO THAT

JUST SHOOT PLEASE

[soft bobcat]

EoL is also better than Royale Contravene :)

[violet sonnet]

Cool you still need the proper Mods and again

[fallow swallow]

i'm a certified™ RC enjoyer because haha funni weapon go brrrrrrr

[violet sonnet]

EOL wins cause everyone dps tests with 12 stacks of salvo

[winged lichen]

Is it actually
I cannot for the life of me tell

[violet sonnet]

which gets you around reloading aka you dont lose searing stacks

[junior heron]

I do too. My brother will start going off about like certain stats and stuff and I’m just sitting there with the dumbest look on my face 🤣

[winged lichen]

If you play right, you should always have salvo stacks
With low salvo you run out of ammo, at least for ClamOps ranked runs

[soft bobcat]

I'm a content creator I have plenty of content with my TG EoL making Calamity Master+ and Carrying others into Calamty Expert2+

[barren sand]

If they start making longer stretches of content with lots of adds mixed in, I could see Tghoul being useful

[soft bobcat]

I've been advocating this for weeks already.

[vapid ibex]

They don’t have to, matches are balanced

[violet sonnet]

Id rather run double mythic then waste mats on TG

not to mention wasting my BM Coins on Weapon Tokens for it

[soft bobcat]

In the end I alwasy say. Just play what you enjoy.

[winged lichen]

I got to NA #50 with EoL but I'm 60% sure Royal actually has more Salvo dps, from testing with clan mates
I just can't afford maxing a Royal to tell

[iron lodge]

i like trinity ghoul :(

[devout horizon]

Then use trinity ghoul

[iron lodge]

ok :)

[violet sonnet]

EOL wins with perfect Mods and if you sit on Salvo Stacks

aka for your average content royal gets more mileage

[junior heron]

Very good advice, that’s all I’ve been doing since starting lolol

[winged lichen]

I did 12 salvo testing and my clan mate on Royal won

[violet sonnet]

Needs min dmg and boss dmg on the third exo mod

[soft bobcat]

Royale does have more DPS in fights over 15s on a single target. EOL has more dps in anything less than 15s

[iron lodge]

should i start maxing hellhest or jolder

[devout horizon]

Which do you enjoy more

[junior heron]

Found out I really, really, really like auto rifles and grenade launchers 😂

[winged lichen]

More simply, EoL should win as long as it doesn't need to reload
But it doesn't seem to be the case after the Royal bugfix

[violet sonnet]

Honestly for Helhest just either make royal or get a EoL the DPS Diffrences are whatever

[spice ridge]

Helhest

[devout horizon]

Smart bomb is fun, huh?

[iron lodge]

i like both

[fallow swallow]

isnt this because RC has mag refund ?

[violet sonnet]

For the average Joe BiS doesnt matter anyways

[junior heron]

Yesssssssss

[violet sonnet]

RC has baseline mag refund while eol only gets it from salvo stacks

[soft bobcat]

Okay I don't know anything about a bugfix so I'm open to that changing things

[iron lodge]

i was stuck on tan 2 from the release up until when hellhest released but now i couldnt care

[violet sonnet]

My saying will always be

Use whats best for you cause BiS doesnt mean anything if you dont play optimally around it to benefit from it

[devout horizon]

Where are you in the game?

[violet sonnet]

Hek my Maru is built for Weapon Damage so uhhh sue me

[iron lodge]

depends on wym

[spice ridge]

Mine too

[winged lichen]

RC was only getting buffs on the first shot of the salvo apparently
apparently
But also it was reported that it was just a visual bug - the buff was applying just not showing a damage number
So fix was only visual

[devout horizon]

Do you have access to acclaim yet

[frigid kiln]

dear dev please make battle pass gift feature ... i want make wolfpack internal event.. wich the gift is battle pass ... so make battle pass can gift via uid

[fallow swallow]

playing around searing mark feels really bad imo

what if i just want to shoot big number haha funni

[iron lodge]

of course, im like level 30

[violet sonnet]

Like i wont use Maru in Calamity so let me get silly with aoe explosions

[devout horizon]

Oh. What’s stopping you from building both?

[winged lichen]

Maru Clam meta atm, need those silly explosions to carry

[violet sonnet]

like i run inverted and explosive shell on maru

[fallow swallow]

of course none of this matters because ikora is the best character in the game (in the game of shadowshaper)

[echo horizon]

Hey, how good do yall think maru is? Like compared to other characters

[soft bobcat]

Okay.. let's say that's true.. I still like how EoL plays and Handles over RC/QB

[devout horizon]

What do you think of the super shots

[iron lodge]

i already have 1 character about maxed in light besides the seasonal cores, and its just time basically. im just asking which one do i chase first

[spice ridge]

What should i do for 73k

[devout horizon]

Well, Helhest is the better option, but I’m very much biased towards Jolder as I love the gameplay of her

[violet sonnet]

Hek Scattered Shell might be even better for silly Maru but its not as straight forwards as inverted fury

just equip mod, turn brain off, spam nades

[fallow swallow]

honestly she feels on par with the better 4 star characters like rossi or umeko

maru has a pretty good niche in tanking unlimited damage though

[spice ridge]

😶😶‍🌫️inverted fury maru

[winged lichen]

I just want to know if I'm actually doing -20-50% less damage than I could be, like my practice range tests suggest
Was running with a clan mate where we both unequiped all Artifacts to be the same power

[violet sonnet]

i said i built her for weapon dmg

Silly Maru Build, sue me

[spice ridge]

Does it give weapon dmg?

[violet sonnet]

inverted fury is 30% wep dmg

[echo horizon]

I mean, what about other 5 star ppl, I have the ability to pretty much finish her abilities, and I've been liking her, but not sure if she's is a very good dps character

[winged lichen]

No artifacts, same power, 12 salvo

[junior heron]

I need to play with it a little more before I have a real opinion. I’ve been distracted by Shadowshaper Duels lolol

[spice ridge]

💀

[junior heron]

Idk why but I love this silly little card game

[violet sonnet]

scattered shell is aoe dmg which iirc should affect your wep mastery but its only every 2nd shot

[devout horizon]

Fair. It’s an interesting card game, albeit very unbalanced.

[violet sonnet]

and thats to luch thinking

[junior heron]

Yeaahhhhhh

[violet sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-rico-yes-rico-kaboom-gif-24767016

[soft bobcat]

I've been consistent top 200-500 in Calamity with TG and EoL and there's nothing I've seen that has proven to me that RC/QB would improve anything unless the fight takes longer.. Which it shouldn't.

And this has been with less than optimal runs / teammates. To say the best.

If anything the first thing I'm swapping are teammates 🥲

[junior heron]

Especially when people have got a Ketch and you don’t. I learned that the hard way early on 🥲

[fallow swallow]

i think her skill floor is a lot higher than the other mythic characters

damage wise shes probably on par with a decent Ning

[violet sonnet]

Also smth why i dont take Maru seriously cause all it takes is 1 jolder to ruin your day

[devout horizon]

Anyways, another day of wishing super boost on artifacts affected smart bomb super shots. Very niche scenario but could be cool

[fallow swallow]

day 261 of wishing weapon enhancement worked on maru since for her super she uses gun

[violet sonnet]

i just use the exotic light gl cause the heavy is not fun to use to me

[devout horizon]

[devout horizon]

Oh I wasn’t talking about on Maru. I heavily enjoy wolf

[fallow swallow]

can you imagine aiming at something and needing to wait to fire
and then wait for the projectile to travel to them

its too much

[winged lichen]

I agree, I'm consistent ~50 with EoL but I'm just really confused by the shooting range results
ClamOps doesn't seem to be a good indicator since too many variables
Why can't a whale just damage test both and make a video smh

[violet sonnet]

atp its just a worse RC

[junior heron]

I think that’s why I don’t like Ikora as much as I thought I would

[fallow swallow]

i have a maxed RC and helhast and an okayish EOL but godroll exotic mods are hard to come by

[violet sonnet]

well good thing you can reuse exotic mods now

[fallow swallow]

i'm 20 keys deep this season and no luck

[violet sonnet]

if you ever wasted a godroll one

why you emoting me you can dismantle equipped mods now and get en back

[winged lichen]

The Pandora deal is my main source for keys to get mods
Have any thoughts on Royal vs End?

[violet sonnet]

just uhh dont remove a exotic mod of a gun if its your only one

cause you only get 7 of your 20 mobius back

[late hull]

Helhest is definitely powerful

[winged lichen]

You lose 75% of resources invested
So you can only test rank 0 exotic mod

[violet sonnet]

if you got 2 on a wep you can get it back with 0 loss

[devout horizon]

The hell was Ning doing for Finnala to get more damage???

[violet sonnet]

had a exo mod on a pulse that had wrong mod bonus and later replaced with the right one

[fallow swallow]

im heavily biased against reloading

so i use RC
needing to play around searing mark feels bad

just shooting RC and never reloading feels good

[violet sonnet]

got the wrong mod back and my other mod is still 7+ on the gun

[soft bobcat]

Have you ever shot with the RC/QB?

Like just have a general feel for it

[late hull]

🤣 that team was a struggle bus. the gwynn was dead every 10 seconds

[fallow swallow]

being able to get back exotic mods is lowkey making me feel pregnant (with anticipation)

[soft bobcat]

It kicks like a Donkey and doesn't feel good at all imo

[acoustic yarrow]

… what

[violet sonnet]

unfort doesnt fix having 5 trillion spread mods

[devout horizon]

[fallow swallow]

send me your 5 trillion spread mods and i'll send you my 5 trillion rapid fire mods

[feral forum]

Was the reverting your weapons from lvl 85 to lvl 80 intentional?

[devout horizon]

Seasonal levels

[acoustic yarrow]

yes. clearly stated

[violet sonnet]

RC takes like no Skill to use properly

[winged lichen]

Maybe I should just take the dive and max an RC

[violet sonnet]

literally just drag down a bit and you can hs anything in Combat Sight with your full burst

Like in the Pit i hit both shinkas across the entire room flawlessly with combat sight

[soft bobcat]

I'm not unwiling to Admit that the RC/QB has the best overall damage potential.

It absolutely does. But it takes the full photon investment etc to beat the EoL and for what? To only do better DPS when a fight lasts more than 15s

[feral forum]

That's a bunch of BS. I spent money to get Silver to buy the keys for Grandmaster.
If I had known they would take them away, I wouldn't have bothered and wasted my money

[fallow swallow]

if we ever get a LFR character that can't just nuke every ad with signature abilities maybe RC will come in clutch

as it stands now attal will just bouncy missile and helhast can just salvo

[devout horizon]

Oh @soft bobcat sorry for the ping but I’m wondering what your thoughts on the void rifle on Wolf are now that it’s been out for a bit so people could really test it. Perks feel nice and gives void coverage, which means more generalist Wolf usage imo

[violet sonnet]

i use my RC on Attal aswell noe

having 12 arc missiles on primary is fun

And the auto reload on RC lets me dump better under Buffs

[fallow swallow]

considering how good her signature ability is i feel like her exotic can be used on the weird solar HC for spread coverage

[violet sonnet]

I need someone with parole to test if you can do the crimson thing

aka reload via perk, swap to heavy and back and get free arc missiles

Cause thats the one Thing i see making Parole good on her

[winged lichen]

The shotgun hand cannon doesn't proc well on spread sadly
Was so excited for that

[fallow swallow]

every day we drift further from God's light

[winged lichen]

Also it's shots seem to count as 1 for rapid 😔

[junior heron]

I know nothing about Attal and her abilities but I want her just to do her character mission 😂

[fallow swallow]

bro wants to see mahamaYURI

[indigo solar]

Wdym "reload via perk"

[devout horizon]

What’s funny is I don’t think they’ll get that joke quite yet

[winged lichen]

Is that why Ning synergizes with it

[upbeat forge]

Is the Dverger Drill good and is Maru worth to get?

[junior heron]

Actually, I wanna see more about her and the Eliksni kids she’s teaching lol

[indigo solar]

Yes and yes

[upbeat forge]

Awesome!

[fallow swallow]

actually Ning is stealth nerfed by being male

what he really wants to use is mahamaYAOI

[devout horizon]

TRUE

[junior heron]

Your PFP keeps throwing me off and I keep thinking my Discord is bugging out 😂

[late hull]

kinda looks female tho

[indigo solar]

What pfp

[devout horizon]

It is indeed close enough

[fallow swallow]

thats why its a stealth nerf

[hoary kiln]

Dw, its countered by him being chinese

He will be the immortal Jiangshi

[violet sonnet]

parole has a mythic perk that can reload your mag

[winged lichen]

Can I get thoughts on one day having a Fallen (oops Eliksni) lightbearer
Viable or pipe dream

[junior heron]

I WANT IT SO BAD

[devout horizon]

Better be a shank

[hoary kiln]

Issakis plz

[violet sonnet]

idk if it still works but previously if you reloaded crimson with its exotic perk ans swapped off and back to it youd just resfresh your arc missiles

[winged lichen]

A weapon to surpass helhest

[junior heron]

And with this being an alternate universe, it could or could not happen. I’m just scared that they’ll do it to Kevarrh and if they do, imma be ticked

[violet sonnet]

so wondering if the same applys to parole and the myth perk

[fallow swallow]

issakis is about to pull a taniks arc and come back in the next onslaught as issakis the abomination

[junior heron]

We get a Crow kind of plot but plot twist, it’s the first Eliksni Lightbearer 😂

[winged lichen]

Ohhhh
Forgot about them, wish they were relevant for more than a weapon quest lol

[dry dew]

Hey question I came from the destiny rising “creator hub” portion of the site. Is this discord the creator hub?

[fallow swallow]

dont spread the leak pls
but issakis is going to be the raid boss for the next 3 onslaughts in a row with more and more prosthetics

[hoary kiln]

Dw, kevarh provides taxi

[late hull]

xivu arath!

[winged lichen]

The Walls Have Issakis

[hoary kiln]

He will upload his consciousness to the Internet
He will steal our nfts

[devout horizon]

Ultron type stuff

[winged lichen]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[fallow swallow]

if you damage the wrong weakspot issakis will wipe you in real life

[junior heron]

She’s a primary character in “The Deserter” as well ^^

[true mauve]

Not far off, Bungie did it once before

[dry dew]

Memories

[winged lichen]

good cause i never wipe in real life

[junior heron]

PFFT—!

[winged lichen]

peak

[half sun]

just unlocked mods and i feel seasick thinking of the hell that will come from figuring out what mods to use

[true mauve]

Imagine a red v blue collab

[fallow swallow]

free will is an illusion
the only character and weapon you need is ning fei yuri

[true mauve]

Nah its super easy, ask us we tell you the only one to worry about

[fallow swallow]

rapid fire ✅
precision ✅
impact ✅
spread ✅

[junior heron]

I do hope that they do more with Kevarrh though. I absolutely adore her and she is just an overall interesting character to me

[winged lichen]

It does not matter what mods you use, and you can recycle them at any time.
Feel free to play around.
Only Exotic mods matter, and they have very specific perks they match.

[junior heron]

There’s a reason I love Misraaks and the House of Light in Destiny 2 lolol

[true mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/red-vs-blue-hot-dog-blanket-gif-11338452227755778904

[hoary kiln]

Ok, but can ning fei defeat pre-time skip randal the vandal?

[fallow swallow]

fallen = has arc shield = yes

[hoary kiln]

Its not just any fallen, its randal pre-nerf

[true mauve]

He can dodge anything, baby mamas be followin him he makes claudia "scan for ex's"

[fallow swallow]

arc shield?
more like

dead

[hoary kiln]

He cant dodge his debts from umeko

[fallow swallow]

only thing randal did was stomp newbies in the starting zone

when you ranked up you could dunk on him

[true mauve]

She so into him, calls him a fine gentleman and wants to see him play his deck, in shadowshaper

[hoary kiln]

Ning fei even gave her his staff one time

[true mauve]

Its love