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Well idk how many times u can spam it mb but needs a nerf
T1 all she need for pvp
I like big explosive damage numbersš«¶
Infinite spam, use it to cover LGL reloads š¤£
Yeah that sounds like it needs a nerf
and you cap that out at t4 anyway
100% the first char i wont t6
If we nerf Maru, what would she be left with
her super isnt worth building into so t5 and t6 are just nothingburgers
her ulti is needed for things like breaking imp shields š
Time to go queue shifty, I was top 50 last night before bed
Any Ning Fei main can tell me nourishing pact vs nimble veil which is BiS?
Heal best iirc
Aight
Nourishing
Thanks I going for it
But then she won't be animated in the profileš„ŗ
weak mindset
Will Smith calling
Wild
if they will add an option to disable those abominations helhest is probably the only char ill keep the animated icon on
ai looking ugly tweakers except for a few chars ong
Maru is cracked in PvP
nah it's a flex saying "I spent more money than you"
Helhest looks the worst thoughš
Izi sniper headshot
every 4 star is actually painful to look at, 5 stars range from pretty bad to like fine
As the black market dude says
Luck is a skill
you can just run a legendary agro sniper
true I got a t6 maru in about 180 draws
Not really a flex if it's not by choice
Not through all the barrier and overshield
that would take 4x though no?
at that point helhest will probably be better off by shooting like twice
What if it was all luck and got maru 7 times in row in summons
I'm 47 draws and no Maru so far š„ŗ
I got her after 58 draws
what? we were just saying luck is a skill....
I got her at 42 and 57
I use Chiaroscuro + Inverted Tenacity. š
whale
Potentially misunderstood. Thought you said the animated avatars are a flex
also true in other cases
Every animated avatar is a chance the game won't be shutdown š¤£
I've got a T6 ikora š š¤£
I haven't seen a single Maru animated avatar. š
Built? Let's go CO!
havent encountered me then
I maxxed her talent out as soon as I got home thursday lmao
62.5k
Probably like 1 or 2 T6 Maru per region.
I have @dusty spire has one
Show us
danielle will have one soon enough
@dusty spire show the animated avatar for Maru
Now, whom of the T6 Maru owners has only Maru at T6 and no other Mythic.
Why T6 1 when you can T6 all
ATP there has to be a Law that every Helhest running TG is bad, you cant be 4real
HOW DID I DO MORE DMG ON MY ROSSIE 
Literally the only one in Party that can't pad on Shinkas
Getting outdamaged by a Maru. 
T6 Helhest btw
outdmg'd by a T6 Rossie with a essentially non upgraded Exotic and by a T1 Maru
Not all marus are made equal
Helhest was probably only shooting with the bow.
Like on the Maru you can argue atleast cause its spread and precision so rossie pads on shinkas
once again, whaleeeee.
Absolutely amazing hero šš¾š¬
Why spend Money on Game when Game dont req to spend Money
getting outdamaged by bots running lvl 40 purple guns is crazyyyy š
Has to be afk
they either had to be afking or join like right before Boss died
got put into a GM that was at Boss few Days ago but ofc i forgot to swap Char so i couldnt open Chest 
They were there from the start. Idk what they were doing though. I autopilot thingsš
What was this? Blitz?
GM Strike
A lot of people AFK in activities. Wildest part that the kick function gets disabled once the activity starts lol
tbh the bigger question is how do you have a t6 char but not a double mythic heavy 
So who we targeting next
Anyone know Whoās the new character coming ?
Iām thinking next banner gonna be skipped for me š just a 1 copy this time
Oh ok, was thinking sometimes it's nice to play chill; like after running CO or timed stuff. Don't need to be top dps in a lot of content; just participate and still contribute etc
its probably jaren ward
I don't think jaren because he's solar and the next character is arc
calender implies next character is gonna be solar
Well this says ānew characterā not characters sooo⦠maybe 4* are done for now lol
lol lols
oh boi whos ready to not get a polish from the event starting soon
Oh why tf did I think it was arcš
So a solar piercing unit with last word as the BP weaponš
Did anyone know what his ability or his weapons style ?
Jaren Ward ready to powercreep Helhest:
solar piercing? tan?
Hand cannon
definitely hand cannon, probably shotty, some of his abilities got leaked iirc
Like what for example
It would be hilarious if they buff his auto target skill from single target to AoE, Mesa/Lynn like. š„
Jaren draws Vows and engages in a High Noon Duel with the target closest to the reticle.
Jaren enters the High Noon Duel state after locking onto a target, automatically aiming at their weak spots and continuously firing when the Attack button is tapped, dealing 80 precision (precision ratio: 1.5) Solar damage per shot. Attack speed and damage will ramp up as he fires, up to 36 shots can be fired consecutively.
High Noon Duel lasts for up to 12s and can be ended early when either Jaren or the target is defeated, or manually. If the duel ends early for any reason, a certain amount of Super energy will be refunded. Emerging victorious grants additional Super energy.
Jaren gains damage resistance and movement speed during High Noon Duel.
If there are no targets nearby when this Super is cast, it will enter the search state, during which Jaren will engage any target that comes into view in a duel. If no combatant is targeted within 10s, 50% Super energy will be deducted, and the search will end.
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Stag Totem
Jaren starts with 5 stacks of Stag Totem, each granting a 10% increase to the recharge speeds of Blazing Shot and High Noon Duel and 10% or 4% damage resistance in PVE or PVP respectively. Jaren loses 1 stack for every 10% of his max health lost.
Jaren gains 1 stack of Stag Totem for every 6s he doesn't take damage. Stacks 5x.```
but this is wip stuff in the files so it could easily change
His gun in the lore.. maybe BP?
Rapidfire Handcannon...š„
Jaren is solar impact not solar pierce, since Helhest was most recent pierce banner
His primary is the Handcanon, secondary shotgun.
Season progression rewards* the currency
And the actual cards are gotten where
I was afk during later half of it
Top left side, there is a season button
Bow too slow of a weapon in pvp
I see season guide no season store
Thatās the case most of the time in gachas.
HSR hasnāt had a 4 star in a year, WuWa had 1. Genshin is probably the only one of the big gachas still making 4 stars
tbh im fine with no more 4-stars considering how few standard pulls we get lol, its gonna take me forever to t6 rossi/umeko
And ZZZ got a decent emphasis on 4* usage tooā¦
I get it from that pov
Well, I reckon DR probably has like 40 people on the dev team so theyāll go with whatever makes money
But then youād have to make 4* viable to stop the player base just leaning on release heroās
I still think we have a lot of usage out of the current 4* for calamity ops but it seems players donāt want to experiment
most 4-stars are plenty viable in rising imo, its just that 5-stars are easier lol
where on here is the store to buy shifting gates cards
If finnala was able to pull weight in the first half of calamity ops release for me, I wonder what 4*s are secretly meta cases rn.
its not there, go to shifting gates in activities and click this
Also Legendary tend to be weak. The only weak Mythics are defense characters. Jaren is saved thanks to this change. 
Itās funny though, we have no 4 stars that uses sidearms so Gwynn, a character you canāt currently get, is the only character that uses them
Iād happily run calamity with T6 attal and T6 ikora so long they are drafted with certain heroes.
And Gwynn is ⦠kind of bad tbh so I doubt theyāll rerun her soon
Give Gwynn a Tractor Cannon on her banner return. šæ
they buffed estela so who knows maybe theyll buff gwynn some day

And also we have endgame updates, these could effect your characters too
Gwynn is your typical first 5 star in gacha. Like, not terrible, not amazing, kind of mid
Solo Que is not the way rn for calamity ops lol
Iāve had a few good pulls in the LFG
while not meta Ikora has been great from the start, people just complain about gls being a single shot even though they do just as much damage as other weapons.
Again I think itās this refusal to experiment with 4*
I mean, usually, new content in gachas shill the new characters, which is why older characters get left in the wayside
Players are heavy stuck on this thought process that 4* have no viable.
We fell below Edge of Fate. 
Tbf Maru is inclusive by design in the co ops but not necessarily needed.
Ehhhh where is that even from
Just I get this impression, eww 4* not 5 wonāt be opā¦.leave
Cos without steam I donāt think anyone has player numbers
activeplayer, tracks through googleplay stats
That website is unreliable as hell
That's decent if it's just google play though? Most play on emulator as well
Emulator also uses googleplay
MuMu doesn't it has its own app store
But I do feel like weāre bleeding players
All content has been harder and harder to get queues popping
gotta factor in ios too
but yea regardless of the specific numbers playercount is def not great rn
I still blame pinacle energy. ā
And not sure what happened to shadowshaper but itās all bots now. Like it was pretty active even at end of last season so o donāt think its cos thereās no seasonal achievement now
Pinnacle energy is good for leaderboards. there's some p2w for it because you can run more chaos for artifacts and such, but nobody is out here able to no-life grind it to hit leaderboard cap in a single day. gives more people a shot.
Although SS isnāt really fun at higher ranks cos everyone uses that 1 deck
tbh i think most people dont rly care about leaderboards
Yeah after you run out nothing feels worth your time
And fairness has been thrown out the window long ago. Game is as P2W as it can get.
Not really. Progression wise you get more but for stuff like the contest raid they made it fair for everyone
That was the only thing. Rest is Whale slapping each other with stacks of cash.
i think the bigger problem isnt pinnacle energy its that the endgame activities arent very compelling. chaos is mindnumbing but you have to farm it forever anyway, calops and expanse are both speedruns which gets old p fast. game needs more stuff like the contest raid imo, stuff that requires thought and cooperation
If your collecting you can definitely do that here F2P
People who pay should be at the top anyway? Most f2p players aren't smart anyway and don't optimise their pinnacle then complain they're not making progress because they're sending out 3 ICs and doing 3 regular blitz a day or something elseš
looking for ppl to play with tired of gaming by myself
If your competing for certain things well your asking to be placed in a different pool of players
has any1 reached the issue of game stuttering when you start moving?
or looking around
Normally when I log in it does that. Or the foundry strike on those platforms that go up and down š
Do you buy the S2 weapons for Shifting Gates tokens or is it a bait?
get better pcs tbh
Your even told ingame about the two currencies
Great value to certain collectors
Well worth collecting
Thats why lots of potential players didnt even give this game a chance. On the other hand other new mobile games are popping that aren't gouging players and give F2P an actual fighting chance without having to grind for a decade.
But again these things fly over players heads when it comes to games based on resource management.
i don't think f2p players want to compete on the leaderboards they just want to play fun content they don't care about being #1 as long as they're able to clear it. the problem is there's not enough fun content, it's largely designed around chasing leaderboard spots
even with spending money, the game is still a grind that takes a while
After years you get used to the burned out F2P because of fomo ect.
Quite similar to other worldly mechanics cough Markets lol
Like DNA? The movement and combat was clanky compared to this tbh and you'd have to endlessly grind for characters on that anyway
a game being p2w when itās free to download makes sense
itās not like fifa where you have to but it first too
F2P and have the experience and collect digital content free. Without the need to pay
Feels fine to me. Also I already have all characters. ā
Man morgan's gift for the seal is so buggy
F2P asking for gems lol
i mean all gachas are p2w lol it's like the central concept of the genre
Like, grinding is just part of what makes destiny, destiny. I'm still over half a month out on maxing maru even with events and whatnot.
Exactly paying only provides progression to a degree however most of the games progression is actually through playing lol
Thought you were limited to how many character shards you could get a day for the permanent units?
finally found a group for heroic onslaught wish me luck
I think it's an optimization issue if an RTX 3050 Mobile GPU 4GB can't run a mobile game
You can pay to get T6 but if you donāt play the game youāll just be an avatar show lol
i dont mind grinding but my problem with the artifact grind is that chaos isnt fun
Chaos would be fun if you actually got drops without pinnacle.
ngl havent had any performance issues on mobile or pc
idk man mine doesnt do that so idk what to tell you
Nope. You farm letters/relics which drop from anything to then obtain shards.
Not on Mobile. Just Mumu emulator being lackluster for an in-house emu
Most gachas donāt have leaderboards or PvP tho
nah it would still be p boring lol. its easy enough that you never really have to worry about anything
But how long did it take you for that?
adding artifacts to shifting gates was a good change i hope they add em to even more activities
But letās not forget ultimately this is a live service digital collectors gameā¦
Yeah but thatās like, all looter games. Warframe, Diablo, etc, all the regular content is pretty easy but loot is a part of the equation that keeps it engaging
Take the loot out, itās boring
Didnt pay attention since I got addicted to grinding. But I have around 120+ hours of playtime since its release on the 28th of last month. May or may have not gotten addicted to the grind too much. š
And tbh, weapon master makes it challenging enough. You get really fast runs, but not having abilities mean you can die relatively fast
yeah true but unlike those games the chaos grind is solo-only. ive never played diablo but warframe would prob be a lot less popular if you couldn't grind with friends
Grinding in Warframe is like, 4 people playing solo.
Thereās no real team effort and you all just do whatever you need to do lol. Iāve got no friends that play WF
Real
Idk. I played like 2 hours and the combat wasn't really engaging for me and just felt like a worse warframeš
Make it multiplayer by stealing all kills. š„
For example, void farming may as well be solo if it wasnāt you getting better loot in co-op
it runs fine for me
i mostly play wf with friends and its true you dont actually have to work together but being able to banter in vc still makes things a lot more fun
another thing is, warframe grinding is just constantly murdering aliens until the mission's over, but chaos has a decent amount of downtime with the whole card system. i think that kinda contributes to it feeling tedious
Void farming is my perfect example actually. Itās braindead and boring as hell but loot makes monkey brain neurons activate
Only thing I dislike about mumu player is i can't use my ps5 edge. My character has a permanent broken neck and just looks upš
is there a max number of gold medal bundles you're allowed to claim? i still have 3 more characters with gold medals that i haven't claimed a bundle on but it isn't giving me the option to claim them on them.
you can claim 2 per day
looks like 6
i know that, i haven't claimed any today
oh only 6 total? wack
99% of WF players are not on VC lol.
And chaos stops giving you cards after like 3 rounds?
You only get cards on the first 3 runs, after that you don't get them anymore . If you're doing long runs that counts as less than 1% of your total playtime
Since I have a tons of experience with reruning Warframe's campaign I probably got a way different experience to most players since those skills carried over perfectly.
lame
yeah true, idk im just lookin for a reason bc i dont mind wf's grind but i can't stand chaos lmao
I did like 3 hours of it yday and got like 4 yellows. All trash.
Itās just not rewarding cos itās either yellow, or nothing, and yellows salvage to nothing. so youāre constantly back to square 1
Chaos perk roll rates are sus. I stopped doing it cuz of it.
Doesn't warframe have like actual gunplay though? Not just hold down shot and it auto fires and auto locks?
thats probably why actually. wf's grind is usually giving you consistent progress towards what you need, chaos is just pure rng and even if you get the artifact you need you prob won't get the substats you need
The difference is that Warframe grind is often a lot more mindless. You just find a spot where you can tunnel enemies and then just kill stuff. Chaos you have to be a bit more active since each floor is a different stage so you can't go into autopilot as easily
Yes, even garbage salvages to ducats and even if you donāt need anything from baro you can sell for plat. Thr loot is good.
Chaos loot is nothing
another good point, yeah
Until spike shell is active then you just walk through the stageš
Gunplay is actually unexistent. You are supposed to use skills as your primary source of damage. Also...i'm a Mesa main in Warframe so...š
Anyone have a solution to morgan's hunt seals? I'm picking a ton of different ones but only 2 have counted so far
Are you talking about DNA?
DNA and warframe
yeah but even then there's the stage/boss mechanics to think about, like chaos is v easy but you can't completely turn your brain off like you can in wf
Yeah idk what they were doing with the guns in DNA. The gunplay is awful. Thereās no sense of impact or weight and you feel like youāre just using peashooters
Eh, it depends on the frame. Some are weapon platforms and their abilities just keep them alive and buff weapons or debuff enemies
That new vex boss they added is just annoying lol
Just put Netflix on and use like 1% of your brain
I called it Bullet Sponge Abyss it's so bad
I meant unexisted for DNA. For Warframe weapon platforms a basically 99% of the Meta frames.
Ah, I haven't finished the tutorial for that game. Waiting for controller on mobile to be fixed
I like gunplay. Probably why DNA didn't grip me. Felt lifeless in comparison to DR
also ran like dogpoop
I hope they make gunplay relevant.
For me, DNA feels like, a game made by someone who watched a lot of Warframe but never played it.
Cos it has all the Warframe things, but none of it feels right.
Also, why did they go make excavation missions? Who likes excavation missions?
Should've copied cascade frfr
Excavation are fine. What I would have lost my marbles would have been Spy missions. 
spy missions rule tho
Can you imagine spy rooms with no Ivara with DNAās movement system
That crap would be crimes against humanity
Imagine using Ivara over Wukong for Spy.
Who needs Ivara lol, Wukong ftw
Just use nokko
A speed frame with chesa kubrow also works
Probably all the hatemongering the community spouts to the monke. 
Wait no, it was huras kubrow
I just pretend Iām doing something when spy archon missions show up and hope other people take care of it 
They should give us doggos in destiny rising.
Were gold medal bundles stopped for this morning? I canāt seem to even get to pop up for my two today
apparently you're limited to 6 total
Cap of 6 probably
It has a cap for some reason.
Thatās a wild and sad cap
Ewww now thatās wild lol
I wanna see what is considered Black Friday deals lol
Is the exotic auto crossbow good on Ning?
Yes, itās why heās so good
Does the limit reset if you buy a bundle >.> or two
so the weapon is good?
Best in the game when maxed out rn
nice i got one from my weekly onslaught heroic
Again Iām kinda confused, do you think sheās better than B or worse?
I am fudging around, dw lolš
Lmao you and I both tbh
Canāt decide between these two for Arti 4 for ikora
Blazaar seems to be a damage increase to most over her damage out put while explosive is just to direct hits with projectiles
Blazar also gives a movement buff
I couldnāt decide n testing is inconclusive with blazer seeming to make a bigger difference overall
did someone test whether blazar stacks with acceleration
or is it a useless stat
im talking acceleration from hel drones
Hello.
Blazar is probably better but shell is more fun because bigger booms
"Uh-huh"
Did they move where it shows data frame bars? I just got 1000 both yesterday and today, but it's not showing in the thing...
Just to let u guys know... Morg wish 18->20 with 1 game
What is even ādirect hitā in this game? For example if I shoot the floor and the blast hits a mob, is that direct hit?
Now I literally left Entergy task
Thats as what you mentioned, blast
Direct hit means your bullet hit the target directly
Yeah after testing it seems at least using new exotic drill; that explosive shell is much better to increase damage .
It does much more damage consistently
Did a4:22 campaign run with explosive I think thatās one of my faster times lol
Dis my build. Working really welll I had switched to this due to needing more healing and dying a lot. this has worked well just be close to enemies when you pop abilities for more healing and hit those group shots to heal
are surge assignments the things that give you super in shifting gates?
No the ones that are like bright orange give you data
yeah like shooting the boxes? those also give super
Oh snap I didnāt realize
around 10% for each participant, so 30% solo, 10% if each person in your team shoots 1 box, chest cant be shared
just making sure what is what for the event
Oh okay thanks
Is it normal for Donovan to repeat the same line back to back about checking rank towards the end of a shifting match? Or is my game bugged?
When do we get Donovan as a lightbearer?
S3 we will have to escort Rhadegast through cal ops, cant run ahead of the bot and have to constant heal him
Thats normal Donovan tendencies he has glitches in his system as is expected after 17 resets
I remember him being repetitive last season but it's worse. Sounds glitchy because he starts the line and restarts it mid sentence repeatedly
Tan only on 2 resets and bro is schiezo
Yessss 3:45 that time
Shifty gets no love fenrir
I just did 10* in a row with no queue maybe 20 seconds for 2 ish. But had a fire team
If tan gets reset does yannick also become yannick-12?
Exo arenāt reset after becoming a light bearer
Lots of accidental oob in the shifting map š
as much as I love some oob. I had to use unstuck a couple times. I could mark enemy LBs though š
just realized the new weapons arent in engram pool, SMH
Wouldn't they just Tan then instead of Tan-2 because you don't have your memories when you get revived?
Hola
There's an S2 engram but capped at 20 š„ŗ
They know because itās in their hardware
Aren't their memories also in their hardware though?
yeah, they wont be added to engrams until s2 ends
thats awful
wtf is netease thinking?
20 a week
not as bad but still annoying
Itās kind of different as usual being revived by a ghost is a complete memory wipe
Their hardware and memory are two different collections of data, just like in a computer
I just joined the discord server
Clean your coffee pot
So how dead is the game? I'm up to 10 consecutive Issaki fails, some with up to 8 min waiting time. Seems people stopped playing, and the ones still there cannot watch a guide and just waste everyone's time by randomly blasting weakspot? What is going on?
It's Sunday everyone has used their raid attempts for the week except people who are newish for the most part
Use the #lfg-gauntlet-onslaught ?
A sign it's not dead imo. When dead only the diehards are left who know all the fights
Hi everyone. I have a question: what's the best way to drop legendary artifacts with double attribute scores, or even just legendary artifacts?
The tryhards have already run it to death as well so you're left with the newbies
Was specialists always 380 cuz clearing cal in under 4 minutes is wild
Did they get rid of gold medal bundles or what happened
Theyāre still there look in store I tripped out too
š¤£š¤£š¤£ IKR right.
Huckleberry Ning vs my Level 50 Wolf š
both my favorite
Why even have Talent tree? Just make every character T6 for free
Anyone know?
They are still there. Y u asking
Where? Canāt unlock more
oh yeah? everyone and their mothers are in Overseer. Only way to Rank on top is to spend 12/12 calamity attempts every single day
Is the drill bis?
sadly yes. Until they release a Void Exotic HGL
or a void LGL
Or both
send help please
just ran the pit GM with a maru and helhast who did 40% damage combined
helhast was so bad at breaking piercing shinkas i had to step in as maru
š
speaking of the pit why does everyone hyperfocus on killing the shinkas at the segment before the boss instead of just running past and dunking the ball
Personally I like to murder everything in my path
It's the D1/2 brain where "they could drop an exotic"šš¤£
Only one counts?
d2 brain is running public events for an exotic
d1 brain is farming ads infinitely for exotic
dr brain is paying $15 for an exotic
Are the new weapons going into the normal engrams so I can choose them or does life just suck
nvm just read the engram and it says it right there
gotta wait a couple of weeks for them to go into the normal pool
until then my 103 mythic weapon engrams are gonna collect dust lol
it says when season 2 ends, lot more than a couple of weeks, and same
having to pay double for this is also stupid on top of only getting 20
Not my best time, but arc expanse is done š®āšØ
tbf the void GL is currently the meta pick
...
( that's all i got )
Yea thatās what Iām using. I have ALH just waiting on a ALH with polibody, polybody? Idk
Almost like they want you to play then gameš
Iām willing because I like Maru so much
imo I would rather have more damage out of the heavy ammo I have rather than reloading in my pocket, but double mag on perk upgrade is nice
Idk, to me ALH has always been the most comfy thing, especially now that Iām playing on mobile
especially since you can reload in shield
True, you can
I would rather have conjugation for free damage
10 shots are going to do more damage than 5 with extra 20% though
my point is I want more damage for the ammo I get, those are still the same extra 5 ammo, just with a reload in between
since conjunction doesn't have a perk upgrade I can just hold the 2 different versions easily anyway
well you wont be low on ammo much anyways in my experience
when you're def not using it so much that you dont use the exotic
Higher dps would still be ALH anyway. You can use the primary exotic in-between reloads too
I am waiting on upgrading her so I don't know how the ammo economy feels, I know estella feels like infinite ammo and gwynn feels like 0 ammo
I know alh is higher dps, conj is just higher damage per ammo
You can use both anyway
ik thats whats great about no perk upgrade
The HGL is hardly used for me anyway
is pachinko still the best second slot perk for the void GL?
makes sense, haven't got to use the exotic yet but sounds like it does a bunch of damage with all the perks
( the blue perk that gives extra projectiles )
has an interaction with clown mag or enhanced ALH where extra shots proc in an overflow mag
you do have to get final blows tho which sounds kinda balls in where you would care about the extra damage
I keep forgeting they allow assists for those perks nvm
Real
They need to just make all perks viable lol missing out of a bunch of power for blue perks doesn't appeal to meš
you really like old grandmas
Why did so many people invest in helhest if they canāt aim to save their livesā¦.
They get me hard as a rock
Aims for them
If only the drones could pop shinkas 
cookies & cream
Yea the fact that ALH poly is the groll makes it that much more desirable
Audio 0% and inaccessible normal? Everyone else has 100
losing my mind trying to go for the duelist titleš
for the wolf players, how long did it take you to get your 2nd ssb copy for catalyst? its so damn hard to get
Check ur settings? If u have everything muted it might not be progressing
nah umeko's audio isnt there
Itās just 500/660 (with matching exotic mod) power I believe between gold and blue perks. Main place that might matter is Calamity but if the perk is good synergy enough it will be fine I would imagine.
Strange
there once was a time where you had to get the final blow instead of the 30% damage threshold it is now
dark times with gwynn concertos where you had to scrape for every stack
you still kinda do when theres decent players around
Umeko and Xuan Wei's audio is missing..... I said about it a few weeks ago.
decent players are focusing down the shinkas or elites instead of doing ad clear lol
Oh I didn't notice Xuan š®
Xuan Wei is missing too
They're not showing at all for me
I thought the current thought was ALH/Clown mag + Pachinko was the god roll (for Maru)
Pachinko beats poly as of right now if you abuse the bug that's clearly not suppose to be there. Noted by the fact that you have to keep weapon swapping to proc it. Once that gets fixed Poly will be better again.
I wonder if it has anything to do w the fallout from the giant va strikes/scandal from months ago
wanna know a secret?
hit me
what are the recommended artifacts for Jolder?
running rossi
If you have friends, they can run it with you. The power level is only for matchmade so that people aren't getting stuck with under power players at random.
It's not a bug
oh that makes sense
Thing is they still say things when using them.
You overflow the mag. Same way if there were ammo refunding and the mag kept being refilled, it would count
all characters that meet the 64k requirement are allowed in they just canāt match make/ lead so you need someone that has an eligible character to drag you in
So choose, palm, sidearms, shotgun or Scythe? š š¤£
Idk then maybe they're region locked. We're all in the wrong region obvs
Thatās what I thought
I say get Maru. She is a monster. Makes the game super easy.
Does anyone know how many clusters it takes to max out a character?
18 Incan
20 Artifactual
I can't access them in the lore tab for Umeko/Xuan Wei.... and I'm emea
yea you basically need to sign up as a make a wish kid it sucks
Anyone know what the Mentor Token cap is? Is it daily, weekly?
Okay when you put it like that š
500 a week iirc.
So someone could drag myself in at 73k...
Thanks, better wait until reset then š
It seems odd they would add both the over fill options to the weapon with pachinko then. If it is then it will probably be patched in a week/2 as it is definitely being shared enough on the discord either way.
Exactly. We're all in the wrong region. I bet the lunar players have access tho
Yeah but it doesn't trigger the way we want it to. So it's fine
Oh c'mon it's still above freezing
So if you overfill it, there's still a check for first shot of the magazine.
That said I can't stand anything below like 84
Salt the pool to drive ppl mad 
Makes people work for the interactions, if they get rid of the interaction it will weaken Maru a little but in the end probably will be fine. Fun for those playing her currently.
Wait I kinda missed why my dvergar sometimes over fills
One day there be one server.
iām sorryššš
They just merged servers and I can't find agroup for Blitz, GM etc. for the life of me...
just make friends
cant be that hard
they're all offline
While I hate that my files have to route from Middle East to get into my device
....whoosh
They really turned off APAC servers for APAC players to download their files.
So now I gotta connect VPN just to have 1/4th of the download speed in MB/sec than 300kbps
eh. she seems fun, but im saving for jaren. doesnt seem like she's doing anything for me that jolder cant. if its damage i need, i have helhest and estela
wow, that sucks so hard
its easy to forget who's running the show here lol. netease sucks bigtime
And here I was googling why my wifi provider was providing me terrible speeds after it just being like a week after getting the fiber installed
Run a speed test constantly? ISPs like boosting speed during those so u can't prove ur complaints
Nah, the dudes gonna provide me with the guaranteed speed for 3 months. Not the point though
My download speed sucked cause Netease got me downloading from Europe while i am in India. So getting like 300kbps when I am supposed to download like a GB.
Connecting VPN atleast got me 3-11 MB/sec while I pay my provider for 150mbps (~18MB/sec)
Ping is very bad for EMEA since the server merge..
For the love of everything unholy why
fr
Idm the merge or playing at 99-140ms. But please let me download from the nearest server than receive my files from Europe
Well idk for eu but for na latam, even though server merge, still differnt timezone
1:00 min to drop
Damn
What can I do with the 10 remaining tokens if everything is sold out š¤£š¤ and they expire end of BP
Let em expire.
Iām just not good at expanse. Iāve been using Rossi these past few cycles and the lowest Iāve managed is 11 mins
Rossi should be having it pretty easy
Though, stage 29 is pretty hard yeah
Thatās where most of my time loss is coming
Always hate that stage no matter where it is
Traitor dp š¤
8715 proficiency Ikora... Jesus
Is Rossi ult doing nothing to the minos?
On server reset, do the leaderboards take your current equipped power or your current max by checking your inventory?
Was too chaotic to tell tbh. I was spamming everything and my screen was naught but lightning. I think it did some serious damage tho, especially since I do have t4
Max. Or rather your equipped max at the time, even if youāve taken off the max
Wait why
Morgrans hunt season seal challenge bugged?
rolled this and safeguarding blazar for maru, just lazy about swapping stuff back and forth but don't wanna lose my #1 title lmao.
Not Rossi š¤£
Well the 2nd part but not exactly checking ur inventory either, it records ur highest power and hold it there forever until you either surpass it or someone beat you
oh
Why you gotta bully me Konami. My arty stats are sad lol
You donāt have to worry about that, youāll still be rank 1 even if you swap off. As long as you obtain that 75.4k power, leaderboard will keep it regardless if you swap to a lower power artifact
so i just did a comparison between both (i tried to be as fair as possible)
Good to know, Now it's down to "Do I wanna cap my currenty artifacts to make sure I keep #1, or do I start leveling the new artifacts lmao..
Is there a way in game to change chat timestamps to local time?
i think the new one is better
again i havenāt put the later with exotic mods, so ill be updating on that end, since clepsydra has potential to have better sustained
I didnāt know this* section showers character final blows. Kinda cool
Does anybody know how cat 2 interacts with cat 3 on smart bomb?
lol I think he wants you to explain it
I would greatly appreciate it, yes
Isnāt it just a 30% super grenades boost?
well I dont, but someone probably does
Cat 2 just makes you shoot held down shots faster
Then whyād you respond yea wtf
because someone does :)
Yeah, but cat 2 doubles charged shot damage, so Iām wondering if that effects the 30% to make it 60%
Well not in that sense. The 30% is added to the original value before the 2x
Soooo. . . It is doubled essentially?
Weāll roll with that yes
w1 f2p account progress. why don't I get this luck on main acct
what talents for Ning Fei are most needed?
1st is probably the best
t1 is the biggest
Ning in this calamity is legit testing my resolve but I gotta find a way
Wait but I only have used Rossi, and before he arrived, Gwynn. So Iām still a true Rossi main lol
I feel like the Shinkras do not get phased by my clones like they lock onto me and thatās that stealth or not
Isnāt ning not the best for this calamity
Yea heās really not. 3 helhests or 2 helhests and a Maru would be better
Is Umeko not helpful anymore?
Oh actually thatās a good point.
Helhest, Umeko, and Maru, then?
How you open that menu?
I could see that working really well
Then press where it says ācharacters 15ā or whatever number it says for you
Ty kindly bro 
Anyont wanna help start a casual clan? NA server
No problem mate
Now we talking, Umeko players come on show something lol
Is Iza still the go-to for Umeko even with the Elemental Shield Resist being added? Or Borealis better in Calamity now?
How casual and whats the tag
lol yea lowkey the tag is all that's important
If itās only 1 shield type I think Izi is better tbh. But if itās multiple shield types then Borealis is the better option if youāre running solo because you canāt count on these burger solos you get to use their arc weapons/ abilities on shields
tag is Flow and name is FlowState for now and I plan on it being for people who aren't looking to make this game a "second job" but still want to do high end content, been in several that just kick after you miss a day and just tired of it tbh
lol fair point
I cheated with our clan tag it's GRIM but GRlM the lowercase l is instinguishable from the upper case I with the in game font
bruh, on question what artifacts are recommended for jolder i get told "running rossi" 
Ha good idea, honestly name is probably trash on my end but it was free and the first thing that came to mind, just getting old having to put so much thought into something that is supposed to be fun
I do see some people with the actual GRIM tag running around and they probably look at us like wait what
MIght have changed with the new artifacts added a bit, but some info in here -> https://discord.com/channels/1267806213656023071/1415618041760190504
must be a smart guy if he told you that
why would i want to run rossi when i need void character tho?
yall im so tight over the fact that the engrams for new weapons are limited. what am I supposed to spend my 8k parameters on other than the new guns?
bro I didnt even realize those were limited. I'm out too
all I need for my maru is better artifacts and the godroll hgl, and the patience required is not something my underdeveloped prefrontal cortex has
Iām only hearing correct opinions in that recommendation
My beloved rossi is t6 now
He will dominate calamity one day...
fr the only thing worth grinding now is just chaos š„ you dont even get additional engrams on the new blitz maps
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Thatās peak! š£ļø š„
And Iām jealous lol. T4 rn, but I can hope for T6
hello did anyone complete the realm terminator triumph in the realm of the ix ?
well, how can rossi fill out the role of void character?
Oh⦠no Le Monarque yet so š„
the engrams, and the fact that my promotion zone expert 2 rolled over into expert 1 this season, both have me so incredibly tight. not to mention the new premium currencies are VERY premium indeed
knower spotted
Are you trying to build Her instead of Maru? Iād honestly suggest Maru unless you are heavily invested in Jolder already
just started playing few days ago, dropped Jolder and realised she is fun and strong so thought about using her as my void character
enjoying playing her is the big thing. if you already do enjoy her, and you understand her limitations, then she'll be a decent char. she takes some growing with though, gotta get used to her and really master her. as far as artifacts go, I'd recommend unrelenting subgravity, unrelenting evolution, inverted fury, and bellicose planetesimal. it's a very basic setup overall that works well on tons of chars.
as far as people being like "just build x char", a lot of people assume that everyone currently playing has been playing since beginning, so most people have a main and are just looking to add someone new
Jolder is very solid, yeah
Unrelenting combo is probably the the go-to artifact setup, but I like using Resolute Conjunction 
-35% damage taken is really nice
resolute is great, but since karpat just started playing I recommend that specific setup because it can slot into most chars without huge issue
Fair, fair
like, im sure some of the blazar artifacts are good too, but that unrelenting combo is so standard that itll get you pretty far on most chars. then you can start getting really specific
While not optimal, I have this on Jolder because of how absurd it feels. Practically screams āJolderā
Also just an extra safety net 
it definitely works! I just am very much in the camp of "if my shield breaks im doing something wrong", so I try to avoid things like that
Huh
not sure about unrelenting evolution, will i be really hit this much while in the air?
They're making more incentives to make the remaining players to spend on packs and stuff š„
I know i subscribe to monthly and bp to get characters but god can y'all pls be more generous
The way I like to play is getting max rage all at once, even if it means dropping my shield just to immediately gain a 45% overshield and fill it up even more since slam overflows into overshield when health becomes full (which it will at full rage)
I just prefer starting the skill loop with the slam, so dropping to low health helps with that
Hey, I was gonna post an image I took in-game last night in https://discord.com/channels/1267806213656023071/1410282642099666945 but itās not letting me add photos to my post??
The resetting of the calamity was a nice thing tho, gives us all the rank up rewards, and resets those who are in overseer.
so the way subgravity and evo works is a little confusing, but basically evolution procs whenever you gain DR but not when you lose DR or when you refresh it. so whenever you go into the air, you get the 30% DR just while you're in the air, AND you get the 35% DR that slowly decays.
but because unrelenting subgrav ends when your feet touch the ground, what it means is that everytime you jump you just get free 35% DR, that will slowly decay until the next time you jump.
@naive ingot @glass needle
Me Iām different normally Iāll run in proc my shield throw slam rotate to someone who didnāt get hit and proc my shield throw again to call it back . Is this method decent ?
Actually, itās not letting my post any pictures anywhere??
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Sheās definitely one of the coolest characters on the board. Some just feel sheās underpowered for a mythic. In my tier list, sheās actually on part with Maru, but I considered putting her in B with Rossi
ohhh so its basically perma 35% DR as long as i jump from time to time, now it makes more sense
What about Fang?
Thatās generally the safer way to play her. I would focus your slam on targets that tend to survive longer, such as yellow health enemies and maybe orange health ones. Basically, you want those enemies to be surviving the slam and attacking your afterwards for a significant rage boost
Waitā¦. I always felt Jolder likes to start with shield followed by the ground slam. Shield builds rage as well, and ground slam shortens the cool down on all signature skills based on rage, so gets back shield throw faster too.
giga ragebait putting umeko the same tier as helhest and ning
Oh okay cool to learn that
yup! and it has the added benefit of the 30% bonus when you're in the air but who cares about that lol. unrelenting subgrav is really just there to proc unrelenting evo
Youāre right. I doubt they would be interested anyway
I was about to say, am I missing something a
The loop doesnāt matter as it actually doesnāt take longer. I just like using slam first, then shield, then slam comes off cooldown, allowing me to use it again, which lowers the cooldown of shield
are these ordered within tiers or no? and for what activity? or just overall?
Hahaah

Nvm saw the edit
for a sec thought about resolute conjunction instead of subgrav but i guess it requires getting close, which isn't ideal against some enemies, especially some of the bosses
I found it a little difficult to break spread shinkas with Gallows especially stage 29 in expans
well, with jolder you're going to have to get close most of the time. resolute conjunction is really really good, im not saying otherwise, but it's more specific for jolder/gwynn/Xuan while unrelenting combo is more universally usable. it also doesn't proc unrelenting evo correctly, so you'd need a different second slot artifact
I should preface I technically play Jolder suboptimally so 
Nvm, Iām just a dingus and somehow missed the thing saying ācan only post images afterāā lolol
Iāll tell you right now Jolder does not care about getting close. She has a sword for a reason.
And a short range primary actually
Somewhat? That was the intention but I wasnāt super consistent. Also yes itās overall PVE
perfect lassi acquired
the setup u gave me works for all characters? might get it for all other char, and get resolute conjunction just for jolder especially since i already got high level resolute conjunction from chaos
I hate to say and admit? Maru is pretty fun to play with.
hate me all you want, I said what I said. 
it works for most chars as a baseline setup. there are a couple exceptions, but also remember that the exotic artifacts are element specific so you'll need to get a bunch
she's my main for a reason lol
Nobody disagrees with this. Most people who actually have Maru typically enjoy her
exotic artifacts? damnn didn't even know these existed haha
Agreed sir š¤
putting jolder over rossi also has to be ragebait
Tbh they both belong in B. Back to the tier list I go
I love Rossi. I do. But strong Russian lady go brrrr
yea imo rossi is a better jolder rn
Giving by your name. 
there's a lot of ragebait there tbh. helhest and ning should be in their own tier. rossi and jolder should be in the same tier, but separated by a few chars. tan is lower than umeko because tan is useless in a helhest world while umeko is still uniqueish.
but trying to get a good tier list for all pve overall is a fools errand, I respect the attempt but pve is so dependent month to month that its hard to get real rankings
subjective tier lists are irrelevant when there is a leaderboard
Yāall know that bulldozer line from payday 2? āYouāre up against the wall and I am the wall?ā
Thatās basically Jolder
and then rossi spawns in an unbreakable wall that flies at you and does insane damage
Isnāt the wall bugged atm or is it intended to do that much damage
Oh haha that isnāt my subjective list⦠this is:
it also just depends what the list is for. if you're doing solo issakis, tan is very high. but tan is not high in 90% of content
Still A tier imo
Also I reeeeally donāt like how I canāt cancel Jolderās super
Dang. That special category below F.

Yay
F for Finnala (but F was too high)
if its your opinion, then its a subjective list lol
This I was wondering earlier about this, so frustrating haha
Well any tier list is gonna be slightly subjective, youāre right. But I think it was the most objective I could muster, given none of my mains were even S tier. Iāll redo it soon with a couple changes
Umeko is pretty much additional 28% Damage Taken by Enemy Boss.
She's just up there with both Helhest and Tan. Though uptime on her skill and ult kinda suck cause she's 4* afterall
Iāll move her to A
its also worth remembering the difference between t0 and t6 depending on char, but idk if yours is inherently t6.
Once we get a Mythic Debuffer with Debuff Duration artifacts, I am expecting the characters to switch alot
Jolder is a debuffer 
that, and once we get more weapon damage chars
not really? debuff being talked about is weakening, like enemies take more damage
One of the notable ones would be Umeko, Estela, Wolf that would skyrocket overnight
LMFAO
finnala meta in act2 cuz solar impact
Ah. Iām a bit dense. 
I think it's kind of a miss that they made maru's weapon mastery go off ability and not weapon, she would have been amazing as a weapon char
Wonāt it be jolder meta
I seriously wanna know two things. a) T6 Nala? b) Sweet business yes or no
At what power/attribute score do artifacts start taking 15 pity
I think 400 attribute? not entirely sure
alr, so now ima be having wolf for solar, jolder for void and just need to get ning fei for arc, untill then i'm stuck with kabr i guess
Don't follow only elementals
Yāall are so lucky to be getting Maru, I did one 10-pull and didnāt get her and now Iām struggling to even get the resources to pull her ššš
Hellhest sucks
Wolf clears all three elements now actually, though solar and arc are his best coverage
We average out to roughly 40s-50s counting the previous banner pities
so in theory i'm fine running just wolf and jolder?
Easy banner skip
Thatās quite literally what I did and have been doing
In theory yes? But can do you dmg after you break shield? That depend
Wolf with smart bomb clears solar and arc content
Jolder clears void quite easily
wolf is a great general use char because he's got a void AR or a solar AR, and then his arc exotic heavy is fantastic. when it comes to picking chars, first choose who you actually enjoy playing. beyond that, try to round out shinka coverage where possible.
I follow Modifiers instead of Characters so I can plan ahead of what to farm.
Rn it's Arc Precision and Void Spread.
Next Arc Precision is rotated out and we get Solar Impact.
Idk if they know what shinkas are yet
TRUE. didn't even think about that
oof, totally forgot about shinka, don't think i encountered any of them outside the tutorial thing
Oh they do
Iām using Wolf for basically everything as of rn š I didnāt realize how much Iād enjoy their gun setup until I started playing them
it would take me two months to max out my new artifacts... so I gotta focus my old artifacts first to make sure I keep #1 rank leaderboard 
Jolder can take out 3(?) shinka types pretty efficiently iirc
yea so the endgame is on a rotation that goes month-by-month (Really its Act by Act but whatever). there will always be two shinkas active and two elements. right now, it's arc and void, precision and spread. next Act the arc and precision will rotate out, and solar and impact will roll in.
I donāt think heās that strong of dps no?
Spread, impact, and rapid fire, yeah?
I've been stalking you on the leaderboard waiting for you to make the switch to new stuff. I didn't level Ikora and im only half whale, so for now you're safe on the leaderboard
2 effectively and 1 normally imo, exotic sword can deal with impact at 100% effectiveness, spread shika maybe need 1-2 hits depending on how you throw the attack, and rapid fire, smg take like 2 clips iirc depending on Wolfpack or del5 or if you have t1
Probably not but I enjoy playing them and theyāre my favorite playable that Iāve tried so far lol
Courageous Planetesimal and Explosive Shell with Void, Ability, Super, Weapon
with my new ones being
Safeguarding Blazar, Bellicose Blazar with Sig, Super, Ability, Weapon..
yeah, I got the rolls I want on the new stuff, but that leaderboard spot. I can't lose it 
As long as youāre having fun it really doesnāt matter tbh š
Still quite good coverage
right now, my safeguarding and bellicose both have solar boost. actually end me
i see
btw is it huge mistake that i tend to forget jolder has a sword
Have you tried the new void rifle on them yet? Feels straight outta halo
I think Tan-2 might be my second favorite, although Iāve had really crummy luck and keep getting repeats in the gacha instead of new characters. I finally got my second mythic last night š«
Yes. Absolutely.
Duuuudeeee no I havenāt but now I gotta try it
I got my Bellicose Blazar to drop like that, got the Safeguarding to drop with arc instead of weapon so I used the thing to reroll that one line for weapon
something important for endgame is that 90% of primaries suck for shinka coverage, heavies are just better
@vocal hawk spider mega city was found
Tan is my favorite character in the game šŖšŖ
I mean I never said bad coverage, just not the fastest
if ur a jolder main then spread and impact are easy since you know how to 1 tap the spread, but rapid, canāt beat the speed of yuri/machine gun. I do think people should start investing in jolder, sheās 1 of the only 5star that doesnāt need talents other then t1
Do you happen to know the actual name of it?
when should i use sword over the gun?
impact shinkas
T0 probably
i'm not in endgame yet, at chapter 5-1 i think
Donāt sleep on the sword
the void mythic sword can hit up to 1m dmg
Itās one of the seasonal ones that takes 200 mythic pieces, btw. Itās from the strike named āthe walls have eyesā or something like that
For her yes definitely. Thatās what Iāve seen all the good Finnalas using.
in that case idrk yet
Honestly? Him and Umeko were the lightbearers that got me interested in playing (finding out about Kevarrh was the final push I needed š)
Alrighty, thank you! Iāll have to check it out when I get back on!
I also like playing Umeko haha. This game has really fun characters
ew
Did bro count the spiders or what
Yes!!!!! My niece will love them. Great Dawning present idea
Oh. My. Gosh. Thatās so cool!!!
Uhh good question. Itās one of the two rewards from that strike I mentioned, so I think you should be able to find the name easily 
Sorry I canāt remember
Wrongful ingress
Thank you, Indigo
Thatās totally fine! Just figured Iād ask in case you did remember ^^
THANK YOU
Dumbyyyyy
Ideally whenever itās optimal to use heavy ammo. Bosses and elites.
Reminds me of Skyrim where the guy with the golden dragon claw in the webs
Uggghhhh I absolutely get why they have the cooldown but I keep getting on autopilot and wanting to type like I normally do but then I just wreck myself š
okayy, i assume sword deals more dmg than the gun right? at least when they same level
Debating
Imagine if all 222,888 members of this discord dropped the Patrick gif at the same time
Swords deal STUPID damage with the heavy attack
Thatād be terrifying and I think my Discord may actually crash šš
okay, will remember

"the Patrick gif"
Shouldāve seen the hollow knight discord when silksong dropped
My grandma sells pure breds. Mainly Manx
Scroll up and look at the gif I put haha
THERES A HOLLOW KNIGHT DISCORD?!?!
OH MY GOSH I AM OUT OF THE LOOP
It made my app crash whenever I opened it after the release of the game 
Ok I'm curious
Sheās sold cats for 10k before. I donāt know about cats but I think it was a Savannah?
Oh no O.O
Imagine seeing pretty much everyone active in chat at once
ššš
Okay, because I just saw it, are levels/EXP here just gained through like chatting and whatnot??
Gotta yap
Yea but donāt farm. I got a 2 day for farming š
Yeah. I believe thereās a max amount of xp you can get per minute, so spamming doesnāt work
Oh geez O.o
Noted.
I thought your profile pic was Gernader Jake for a second š
š š
Kk that makes sense
Hereās to hoping I donāt get put in timeout at some point because I like to yap, especially with people into the same things as me š
Steal me one
Just donāt spam and youāll be fine. Idk how you even could spam, but the other dude managed to get muted for āfarmingā so he probably found a way
Fang(?), I freaking love your username colors
Gradient roles I think theyāre called are awesome
Maybe by sending something RIGHT as the timer went down??
Yep just yap. Top 3 yapper/troller here
people want champions in Rising alongside shinkas š
Oh hell no
Anyways, it feels weird using Wrongful Ingress. Feels so much like a storm rifle
I hate not being able to react to messages, it feels weird and wrong š
Oh you must be brand new
Grind these chat levels šŖ
Yup. Just joined not even an hour ago š
Welcome to the community 
Right like this just confounds the mind to consider have a strike basically with nothing but Powerful combatants and bosses at that point but then we have to also contend with 6 different mechanics for them 
Although Iāve been playing the game for like a week now? I think?? Somewhere close to that lol
Nice, nice. What level are you?
Coping i don't have to buy a Photon to upgrade this in ~3 Weeks when i get the last Copy of the GL
Thank you! 
good luck
It would also make it worse if it's lock behind elements and weapon types
Oh my gosh I want Nitro purely to use these emojis in other servers. Idc about anything else, I just want these Ghost emojis. Why is Nitro so expensive š
Knowing my Luck i'll have to buy it i've gotten 1 Photon since Launch from Campaign 
Uhhhhhh⦠Iāll get back to you on that š I think I just hit level 40 or 50?? I canāt remember which
not as perfect as you
These are so cute
RIGHT?!?
Do you have the smart bomb on wolf yet? Itās the exotic grenade launcher
Maybe?? Iām using the Riis artifact rn (if it helps, in regards to Story, I just finished āThe Deserterā last night and I am somebody who likes doing all available side quests before moving to main)
Alright, so I think thatāll eventually become the smart bomb if I remember correctly
Which is what wolfās entire build should be around imo. Your primary weapon will be for shields and your skills for. . . Shields as well (and some extra damage and survivability)
Smart bomb decimates a lot of stuff
I GOT MY NITRO BACK

maru experts - do u guys think safeguarding blazar or rampaging pact is better for 3rd slot arti?
Basically, youāll be sacrificing your super for incredibly strong grenade shots
How far into the game š
but dont got your bike i stole when you were 6 š
Yeah I'm about 1 week in on my f2p account and I'm outdamaging level 80's at level 50 in the raid with smart bomb + catalyst š
Never owned a bike. I was too poor

Just finished The Deserter side quest! (I started it as soon as I unlocked it)
now im sad
Good. Mission accomplished 
Is that a wolf quest? Assume you plan to main him?
Oh btw cat 3 is realistically a 60% damage buff to put it simply. Cat 2 doubles it
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you on that
Okay I gotta go for that then š
Yeah Iām realizing why they didnāt make it 50% 
OKAY! I am exactly level 50 and on Chapter 4-3, getting ready to do the mission āOperation: Avenging Arrowā (gonna do the bonus missions before starting that though)
I find it funny we get a cool boost to our super only to feed it to the grenade launcher
Yeah, probably lolol. I may switch over if I find somebody else that I like but I donāt have high hopes thatāll happen š
I mean heās a free T6 with free max cat exotic. Two shinka types as well. He has a lot going for him.
Max cat? I thought it only gave 1
You don't get the catalysts for free, only the first
Oops I was wrong
Yeah no free copies iirc
Still, very good investment. Where are the other catalysts then? I have no idea where copies drop for that gun
SG
either way, peak gun, peak character
Oh god no
Are you able to react now ?
Should use Gwynn
Nope š
I take back everything I said. Shifting exotics are way too hard to acquire imo.
I really want her because I enjoyed playing her mission but I completely missed her gacha and sheās not available now ššš
I guess what I should say is Wolf is a good investment if you play enough shifting gates 
Sad for that as well
you can just play jolder with a british accent
Welp, glad Iām enjoying SG as of rn š
Sheāll be back, she always come back
PFFTā!
I enjoy it with Maru but Iāve heard she falls off when upper ranks get wise to her launcher (just jump š„)
If I was on PC Iām confident I could hit body shots midair tho
No you just havenāt unlocked embed perms yet
Ohhhhhhh
Okay that makes sense, guess I gotta yap more š
quick question, is it worth it to do character story? like ikora or kabr story lines?
Just be like me and be #9 in the server š
I like doing them personally. They give you bonus resources plus you get lore on the character (if thatās your sorta thing)
Free Lumia š¤·āāļø
Ok thatās actually quite terrifying
Well thatās creepy af
(/lh /playful)
Donāt be mean to my mother
nah, give him some lotion, maybe some vaseline
he'll be back in his prime
Family resemblance by any chance?
do i need to lvl up the characters for these to go smoothly? or it doesn't matter how strong they are?
Uhhhh, I,,, actually donāt know, Iām so sorry. Iām somebody who likes to power up their Lightbearers as soon as I get them š
Doesnāt matter, but you do have to use them to get their proficiency up in order to actually play the quests. Chaos farming is an easy way to do this
okay
Try not to go too high as you will be very short on resources as you approach 65-70k power
So like 50k is a good spot to get them too. Easy to go use them in some content to get proficiency, but pretty cheap investment
Kk, good to know. Thanks for the forewarning ^^
for now my strongest is like 33 or 34k so 50k is alotš¤£
Ok damn
The rule of 3 big investments is good. Iāve definitely gone over that and suffered, but now Iām focusing three and itās a lot easier
Good to know! Thanks for the tip!
I'm somewhat between 35k-40k lol
Who are your favs rn
Actually that question goes for all three of you
70k is starting for end game so enjoy while you still can
for now i'm using mostly wolf and jolder, for 3rd might try ning fei since i enjoyed him during side quest with him, gotta drop him 1st tho haha
Ning is S tier even if I donāt like him that much. Keep in mind that his first talent is crucial
Man since discovering Jolder I think I'm in love
Anyone know how to specifically do this gold medal challlenge for wolf wyhere you need to use wolf flames twice? I am confused how to proc it
Tbh Wolf, Ning, Jolder is a pretty good setup. Has you covered for all but one shinka type too, but piercing can be brute forced by Ning especially. Not like he used to be able to tho
sighā¦
Use it, use super, use it again
She is my Estonian goddess
Might get snow tomorrow night. Iām exited
She is new mommy meta for impact calamity
Is she Estonian?
LUCKYYYYYY
She's got the accent and mentioned Tallinn in the lore, sooooo
It'd be my bet
Her VA sounds like Florence Pugh doing the Russian accent lol. Which is not a complaint
I donāt miss the snow. I lived in Colorado for 20 years and I hated driving in it
Gosh another crush dammit xD
Colorado mentioned. But the snow here isnāt worse than NY where I once was
Itās terrible when I lived in the city and I had to scrape ice off my windshield and unbury my car just to be late for work because people crashed on the highway
I live in SoCal now and Iāll never go back to that
I live in WA State and Iām thankful that while we get snow, it has yet to get too bad. Enough to play in it and sometimes my dad gets a snowday from work but we donāt have to deal with shoveling or scraping ice from the car. That sounds like crap š
My family actually moved out SoCal for the rain š
Yea Iām in the Springs and the drivers are god awful no matter what season.
But unlike California, gas is 2.80 on average
Oh gosh, thatās nice
People are moving out of Cali in droves. Gas prices are $5 here and cost of living is insane. My 1 bedroom costs $2,800 a month
But the weathers nice I guess lol
Itās supposed to rain and be in the low 30ās to mid 40ās and wind chill is supposed to drop it to the low 20ās
I like the sunshine here tho, sunniest city

YEEEAAAAHHHHH IM LEVEL 2
Sarah Natochenny, her VA, is actually fluent in Russian.
yes, jolder has the same voice actress as ash ketchum
Compliments to Florence then
Did you see the spider cave
i didn't really have anything to say about it but yes i did
Not my forever home tho
ā¦what.
You didn't know that?
Welp. Now I know what cursed knowledge Iām sharing to my brother
Well now since you didnāt acknowledge it ima send you into the cave to sleep for a month
NO
Ngl, Iām really impressed
It is actually somewhat obvious if you listen closely
Calling it, Iām gonna only hear Ash now that I know that š
Ok that's awesome
I wasn't even listening for voice cues, I was just curious on who voiced my russian mother bodybuilder and was floored when I found out who it was
Jolder has so much aura tbh
Literally has an aura farming mechanic built into her quest š
Wait, that actually looks so much like the little 3D printed spider I just got, Iām not even joking
Not the Iron champion for nothing šŖ
thank you, got it done
Unfortunately, sheās getting demoted to B tier in a moment
She's still S tier in my heart
And also my biceps
Loved this series when it first came out
GOD NO, That's even worse than torture!
Everybody else here: trying to kill giant spider
My spider loving butt: Trying to get the giant spider to climb on me
Fun fact: spiders āflyā
YOU MEAN THE KIND THAT USE THEIR SILK TO PARACHUTE???
Hey, I love spiders and am not afraid of them (for the most part) š Especially tarantulas and jumping spiders
Does master 1 have more than 1 zones?
Jumping spiders are the cutest
Itās called ballooning

Today I learned a 50% mag increase on a light gl will give you a staggering, absolutely jaw dropping...
One extra shot.
Yessssss
If they werenāt so small and didnāt have such short lifespans, Iād absolutely love to keep one! But Iād always be scared Iād hurt them (same issue with small snakes). For me, the bigger they are, the more comfortable I am with them lolol
(It was supposed to be a response but apparently Discord hates me BI)
This new primary exotic gl worth it on both maru and ikora or?
That's still twice as much, which is A LOT for these weapons haha
As it is Lucas the spider I wouldnāt be to surprised
Hey, can somebody answer his question? I donāt know the answer to this so I canāt ^^
OKAY YALL ARE TOO DISTRACTING (/pos) I NEED TO GET READY TO GO OUT FOR LUNCH š¤£
Have a nice lunch
I think this is my final list for now. They are also in order of best from left to right in each tier
How about that kangaroo tacos
What if you had two shots, two opportunities šļø
How is Jolder better then wolf?
Is new primary exotic gl worth it?
Yes, there is a Master II
finnala is still meh (tested, t5, only usable with atleast cat 2/3 sweet business with scorched stacks from the barrier)
none of the new artefacts so far makes her decent
Considering it's the only exotic light gl right now, I'd say yeah. Probably.
She is definitely better. Three shinka types easy and more varied shield types. Also so stupid tanky
(Whole lot better than maru's other exotic option, that's for sure)
wolf should be changed, he has new artefacts and a new ar which makes him atleast low-A tier
Good for maru but not so much for ikora?
Is his new rifle actually better?
I'd probably say two tailed is still better but as I only have two tailed I can't say that for a fact
Is @kindred nymph alive?
it has annihilation + clepsydra, so killing ads is MUCH faster than sworn oath
Iād consider swapping him to the front of B tier ig
up to 90% and with precision the buff triggers faster
Dunno, I got that mythic launcher on ikora maxed more/less and two tailed is on hold currently
No I mean how many zones? Or it just zone 1 then zone 2 when enough people promote out of expert
eh depends, but i agree with gwynn, her with chaperone is still faster for ad clear, and octant is very good for bosses, so either . so i'd still put gwynn on low A regardless, while you have to go for a specific build on wolf to make him chew on enemies
Yes thatās why sheās last in A. Situational character
Ah, I am unable to look into the zones right now.
Gywnn is one of the most useless character in this game
this user has never used an exotic shotty in his life š„
Is our mailbox unlimited space :P? If nothing changes it will reach 10k.
1k spaces
*currently
its useless in current cycle of expanse ig
Actually no, octant can power through expanse
Oh, so it will be full today.
Is morgrans triumph bugged
For the seasonal title
she is useless when there is no impact shinkas
She shouldnāt have had sidearms imo
she is the best burst dps in the game still
Also Iām intrigued as to how youād rank the characters. I donāt think youāve enjoyed my lists lol.
I use Gwynn for everything sheās my main
Gwynn is #1

No shame in that 
If Jared is hc shotgun gwyn will probably be gone from the calams entirely
All element coverage via handcannons which i assume will be a significant part of his kit+does the same thing of impacts and spreads
3 shinkas char who will probably not be handicapped to oblivion by running octant and will be really competent for all 3 of them
Yea this is likely. He will probably be a 4* tho as more info has come out. Not that it changes anything about what you said
Netease better not