Ascēnsiō v.0.1.1

[opal plank]

honestly this is a lot better than stella mortis imo

especially given it’s ^mult gain increases

and it doesn’t essentially require -1 consumable slot

[silent mirage]

😭

[safe sapphire]

Are you saying it needs a nerf?

I thought the constant reset would justify the gain

[dense sedge]

i'll have you know pulchra is best wife smh /lh

[hollow nymph]

this is why I ask for reproposal

[silent mirage]

Sorry but Contingency Contract Battleplan Extinguished Sins is cooler

[dense sedge]

who? 😭

[silent mirage]

Ascension

[dense sedge]

no clue what you're talking about

[hollow nymph]

This is my idea: (^1.5 scale)
This Joker gains ^0.1 Mult per card sold, reset ^Mult and increases gain by ^0.01 mult for each item sold this ante square rooted when a boss blind is defeated
(currently ^x mult and y cards sold.)

Alternatively, this is also possible: (Keep ^Mult rolling)
This Joker gains ^0.1 Mult per card sold, reset ^Mult and increases gain by ^(Mult-1)^0.5/10 when a boss blind is defeated
(currently ^x mult)

[safe sapphire]

Would anyone be willing to help me with Code Joker? Just stuck on that can create duplicates aspect.

[opal plank]

ah, didn’t even realize it reset lol

[silent mirage]

Hmmm

What exactly is your idea of duplication

I can't use PC rn so I can only offer some "counselling"

vitam transcendere

Ngl for I feels like it's still a bit messy and unpolished

[safe sapphire]

Just that it can create code cards that you already have in the consumable slot.

I just want to avoid it creating 100 crashes because you didn't use your code cards before entering a new blind. Can send current code if you want

[silent mirage]

How about a cap

Say

Just make it do nothing when you have like 50 code cards

(also make it gives ^^0.01 chips for every code cards used)

Because why not /j

[safe sapphire]

That might work as a temp solution, but that will still cause like 25 crashes to be made each hand.

And of course you can't use those at all

[silent mirage]

Hmmm

So you want to make sure only a certain amount of card copies are made

[silent mirage]

How about this:

• it creates 2 code cards that you don't already have, and create a negative copy of every non-negative code cards you currently have

The first effect needs room

This allows a rather controlled growth rate I guess

[safe sapphire]

I think this is just a code-specific exotic Perkeo. I think the current effect Code Joker has is fine; I just need help programming it.

[silent mirage]

Hmmm

[safe sapphire]

Oh!

I got it!

You know how code cards can have multiuse with that one voucher?

[silent mirage]

Perkeo Ascended - Dionysus
Create a negative copy of every consumables you have.

Thanks for the idea mariofan597

🫠

[safe sapphire]

Some variation of that idea was tossed around before

[silent mirage]

I mean we can just make it copy nonnegative cards cuz it grows exponentially

[safe sapphire]

What if we only give one code card, but the multiuse on it is what increases each boss ante.

[silent mirage]

Good idea

Although for some reason pointer is giving me inf use

🫠

[safe sapphire]

Pointer isnt a code card

It is a spectral

But thanks for thinking ahead like that

[silent mirage]

Can't it be both

[safe sapphire]

It can be found in code packs, but it will never be created when you spawn a code card consumable

[silent mirage]

Anyway
Gives a random code cards that you do not currently have with 2 multiuse

And double the multiuse values of all code cards you currently have

After each boss blind defeated increase operator level by 1

[tribal moth]

I'm still thinking about making CardAnim a separate API library, but i'm still conflicted about Ascensio needing a dependency being an annoyance for people

but then a bunch of other mods would greatly benefit from something like CardAnim

hhghh

and then a bunch of other mods are already using the file version

[safe sapphire]

Go and make it its own api. Change the modding scene for the better.

[tribal moth]

Yeahh but what if something might go wrong and I'm not seeing it...

[safe sapphire]

I'm pretty sure people would inform you if an error occurred. More than just us and cryptposting alone could inform you.

[tribal moth]

that's fair

[opal plank]

yeah i love the fact that i put it in my mod and it just works

i’m sure it’ll get really big if posted as an individual repo

[tribal moth]

Actually that leads me to my next point, my main concern now is wondering if I should continue the "drop in the module" system (more convenient), or make it its own mod (more centralized)

[opal plank]

imo the former

i would much rather not have my mod (in general) have another dependency than just boom files in

the main issue is probably just crediting for it lol

[tribal moth]

the problem with the former is that it's hard to update the module and point it out to everyone - differing versions would result in wildly unexpected behaviors
the problem with the latter is that it's a dependency, and it's becoming quite an annoyance for a lot of people in the community to manually install/update a bunch of dependencies

[opal plank]

i’d say the current system where you can just steal borrow it is completely fine right now

realistically, updates would likely be scarce and probably wouldn’t add much to the api

[safe sapphire]

I think the latter. Like other api mods, I don't think we would lose any convenience on the coding side of things. It would also make it a lot easier to adopt if people dont need to find the exact right place to put files. Also makes updating more convenient.

[tribal moth]

like I do want to add some more background features to CardAnim - for instance the minimum 10fps is a hinderance for a couple of cases, and I want people to be able to set the minimum fps for their own mod

[opal plank]

honestly i’d say add as much of the functionality that you would like to the api then release it separately once you’re satisfied

[tribal moth]

i'll think on this

[celest wraith]

also i think hanging chad should get a reproposal

now its just boring

20 retriggers on first card is not cool

you can achieve an almost similar effect if you use beige deck and have three normal hanging chads

[safe sapphire]

Added the Mortal form of Circulus Pistoris: Blueberry Pi and the Ascension of Code Joker: Transcriptio Virtualis to the GitHub! I decided to keep blueberry the same since it was good as it was. This effect for Code Joker is arguably stronger than the initially proposed form as it gives you some control of the cards you recieve.

[silent mirage]

I think making every played card retriggers like 5 times or something is better

Also on the retrigger jonklers idea

We need sock and buskin

Ascended

[safe sapphire]

An Important Announcement:

We are currently aiming to reach the milestone of 72 vanilla and cryptid Jokers. That number represents presently 20% of the total number of Jokers across those mods combined. We want 72 as that roughly means you would have at least 1 joker on you at any given time that can engage with the mechanics of the mod. We are about halfway there with 43 of these Jokers. Once we have reached that 1 in 5 Jokers threshold, things will be moving forward in a major way.

At that point, we will begin creating official releases for the mod (version numbers whooo) and start making our presence known more. It also involves polishing and bug testing, so be on the lookout when we ask for some assistance with it.

Thank you for sticking with development thus far. Your art, ideas, and code have been a major help thus far and made it the amazing combination of talent it currently is.

[silent mirage]

Thalia and Melpomene - Sock and Buskin ++

Retrigger all face cards 5 times. Each played face card gives X2 mult, each face card held in hand gives X2 chips.

[safe sapphire]

Can someone pin this?

[safe sapphire]

I think this is a solid effect! I think it might be the best atm.

[silent mirage]

Yeah I named it after the masks of comedy and tragedy

It's in the balatro wiki too

[safe sapphire]

I also agree. I thought of it also making all retriggers affect the first played card as well. I don't know if that would be enough, though, or if I could do it.

[hollow nymph]

Which of the Exotic Campfire effect gets approved, there are many of them!
I don’t think~~ idiot ~~Fem’s suggestion gets approved

[silent mirage]

In essence with the triggers each face card should give X32 mult/chips

Me after using Yggdrasil on it resulting in every cards gets triggered 1.8e300 times making the game permanently freeze lol

[safe sapphire]

Please don't call Fem an idiot. Some of thier values might be off, but they have had some decent ideas I have been happy to include.

[hollow nymph]

ok

crossed

Exotic Acrobat need re-proposal?

[steep flame]

also, wasn't exotic demicolon's art finished?

[safe sapphire]

Yes, it is finished. It just needs to be added.

[blazing tendon]

the only person you should be calling an idiot is me

[hollow nymph]

on wait no

[safe sapphire]

The growth rate will remain the same from selling jokers.

[hollow nymph]

quadratic is it too much?

^1000 is possible

[silent mirage]

Exotic Demicolon effect is probably just force trigger all jokers on the right of it for how many jokers are in the left of it including itself

[velvet widget]

What if it randomly hooked jokers together

[safe sapphire]

That's also not a bad idea. Fits thematically.

[velvet widget]

Here's the idea: Hooks Joker to its right with another random Joker (excluding itself), then force triggers Joker to the right

[safe sapphire]

So like canvas, but with only one joker?

Wait, opposote

One joker triggers every other?

[velvet widget]

Yeah

I think

Its 1:30 i was just lurking and thought of it mb

also congrats on the progress dude this mod is awesome

[safe sapphire]

Thanks, always apperciate your ideas!

[silent mirage]

Oh this + canvas might trigger some insane effects

We need more entropic jonklers though

[hollow nymph]

Exotic Acrobat (my version):

[silent mirage]

A bit underwhelming tbh

[hollow nymph]

this?

or this?

[steep flame]

attempted to rework my exotic chocodie events

thoughts?

[opal plank]

yippee

i think i might start “screening” stuff on the sheet again soon™, or at least when i have the chance

[safe sapphire]

I will take a closer look in the morning, but from a glance I think it is looking pretty good.

[opal plank]

also might start getting back into suggesting in general since i haven’t really made any suggestions for anything in a while, and want to un-rust my brain gears

because that analogy makes total sense

[silent mirage]

Cryptposting 2 when

Gryphline

[opal hazel]

no he's just saying that every exotic is better than stella mortis

[celest wraith]

Hanging chad X:
Retrigger first card X times, where X = Number of Cards played and in hand. Each triggers retrigger all scoring and held in hand effect.
my take

[celest wraith]

stella is pretty fun with perkeo imo

not good by any means

even formitude is better

[river fjord]

any jokers that desperately need art rn

[safe sapphire]

If you want to try your hand at making mentioned heavenly type chips and demonic type mults, feel free. We need a good pattern so that the hand type can be easily switched from type to type.

[winter bear]

Honestly, this looks like a lava vent from an erupting volcano and I am all for it

[river fjord]

alr

ill try

[river fjord]

this is the idea i had for the bg of the type mult, the type chips would probably be inversed (instead of a dark star and getting lighter, a lighter star and getting darker)

the colours can just easily be changed to the main colour of the type mult

[river fjord]

i think itd look better without the outline actually

i wanna do something interesting with the joker sprite on top

[river fjord]

idk how i could make this look more demonic without it being too generic

[safe sapphire]

It is more than fine to use red here for the demonic type mults. That is why it was chosen to represent Mult. I don't think you need to reinvent the wheel here.

[opal plank]

stella mortis is VERY good, mind you

[river fjord]

oh bet

ok made him more demonic

[thin heron]

evil ass jolly joker

[river fjord]

ok so i forgot to save the drawing and i cant restore it with layers, theres prob gonna be a bit of a delay making the rest now

but rlly anyone can do these
its just simple recolouring

[river fjord]

also if type mult is demonic and type chips are angelic whats type score gonna be

bcs when we get to astronomica were gonna need to figure that out

[opal plank]

tru…

purgatory 🗣️

[safe sapphire]

I was also thinking purgatory or limbo for them.

[safe sapphire]

Got the campfire exotic programmed. We are just waiting for art at this point. From my testing, I think 0.02 is fair, but I might need to raise it to 0.03. Would like someone to experiment with it to get their opinion on it. Also, it majorly benefits from cryptposting installed due to the plathera of $1 jokers it makes avliable.

Temp art is the background for the sapling exotic which I also need to finish.

[hollow nymph]

Glass Joker Exotic, the current one only charge ^Mult when Glass 2 is destroyed, which may took very long time to charge the value, the reproposal is to solve the issue and closely to match the effect of Base Glass Joker, while also keep the existing exotic effect

buffed to ^0.25

[safe sapphire]

Quick question, how far along are you on that campfire art?

[safe sapphire]

Here is a take on the demonic type mults. This isn't the final design by any means, and I especially don't want to discount what the axolotl provided. I am just posting this so I can communicate some ideas I had for them.

Right now, this demonic design is too busy. It's hard to read the design in its current state.

Without the body and trident, the design is more readable. I do think it should be doing something, though, like pointing to cards in some way.

[celest wraith]

jolly joker but hes not jolly

[celest wraith]

@safe sapphire is my idea bad smh

[coarse blade]

yeah this is awesome

[safe sapphire]

I think you do have a decent idea with the first part. I don't know about the later just because I don't know how I would do that atm.

[steep flame]

what do you think btw

[celest wraith]

make held in hand and scoring effects trigger additional times = the number of time the first card is triggered by hanging chad x?

thats what id do

i mean i can try coding it

[safe sapphire]

You can take a shot if you want

[safe sapphire]

Give me a sec to put my notes together.

[celest wraith]

what does Night X

do again

i just remembered how similar acrobat x is to the normal night

[silent mirage]

Blazing Forest

[silent mirage]

Big Cube Ascended - Cubus Magnus

^^3 chips

Boredom Ascended - ADHD

Cannot be force triggered. (Nubby's Number Factory reference, yes.). Has a 100% chance to retrigger all other jokers. If successful activation of the above effect, reduces the chance by 10% then retriggers itself. Resets to 100% when the above effect fails.

[safe sapphire]

No. We are NOT adding a ^^3 chip exotic.

[silent mirage]

Maybe, but what about X666 Chips

[safe sapphire]

A X666 is slightly more feasible. That being said, it should probably be halved as around x300 mult is what duplicate can get on a good 8 antenna run.

[silent mirage]

Antenna?

Is that a deltarune reference

[river fjord]

yoooooo

[safe sapphire]

I will say it was infact a deltarune refrence and totally not auto correct going wild on me.

Do like the number factory refrence though

[silent mirage]

Also the balatro effect is kinda boring/plain

[river fjord]

ok so if thats the demonic version i could probably do something similar for angelic

[safe sapphire]

Would love to see it!

[safe sapphire]

I think it also works as small cube then could be the other box.

[silent mirage]

Hmmm

[silent mirage]

What about my boredom Ascended

Also include anti synergy with jokers that increases other jokers values.

[nocturne ridge]

Does "retriggers itself" mean it retriggers the retriggers, or it retriggers the jokers twice?

[safe sapphire]

Apologies, I misread it. I thought the nubby refrences where for the cube.

I think it has potential.

[silent mirage]

Cool

[silent mirage]

Basically it has 1 guaranteed retrigger

Then the chance gets progressively reduced

If you're really lucky you can get like 10 retriggers

[iron cipher]

flat ^3 chips
reason: CUBE

[iron cipher]

I'm thinking of
1 in 2 chance to force-trigger each joker but i think that's a little bit overpowered

actually that can be used for demicolon ascended

[hollow nymph]

we already have ^3.6 chips for exotic cube in document

[iron cipher]

why is it ^3.6
why isn't it ^3
it's a cube and something cubed is literally ^3 something

[worn loom]

3.6 is 6^2 X 0.1 probably is why

[mental veldt]

Does it still have the easter egg?

[safe sapphire]

If you mean loss, no as a result of its 1 layer nature. I can probably try to replace some pi symbols to sneak it in if it's important.

[mental veldt]

I meant pi turning to tau when it's Oversaturated.

[safe sapphire]

I believe it does have that

[mental veldt]

Alright cool.

[river fjord]

gonna take ANOTHER shot at the type mult later (if mariofans okay with it) and my own shot at type chips

and maybe type score???

[safe sapphire]

Sure, feel free. Though, give me a moment to post what my current combination of our type mults could look like.

I personally think this is looking really nice

[river fjord]

oh hell yea

i love this one

this ones perfect imo

[safe sapphire]

You think you can add to it, feel free to take a shot at it. Otherwise I would love to see what you could cook for limbo jokers

[river fjord]

type score isnt rlly much of a priority for me if thats what you mean by limbo, but ill try my hand at both

(type chips and type score)

[safe sapphire]

All good. Thank you for your efforts with all of these!

[river fjord]

np

[safe sapphire]

@nocturne ridge Apologies for the intrusion. I can't find where you posted the code for the Jokers you worked on. Can you show me where you placed it? Could you also repost it if you still have it available? Thanks in advance.

[river fjord]

also magnus sapphirus' description is a lil confusing at first so maybe just change it a lil to say like
'amount of xchips given per remaining card increases by x0.1 when a card is added to deck'

[coarse blade]

too tired to edit the cards on the bottom but

[tribal moth]

ooh wait what if angel cards had those cards above?

[swift heart]

kinda poking out of the obligatory halo, perhaps

[agile flint]

Man, so glad looking at the ongoing progress of this mod so far, though I don't really have much reserve time for it for probably quite a while (smh why a day only have 24 hrs), this alr looks so promising

[safe sapphire]

This is what I currently have art-wise for Formidibus's mortal form: Exorcist. For this Joker, I tried hard to stick to the Balatro palette. I chose to reference Pizza Tower as there is, coincidentally, a character called Exorcist who wields a similar-looking golden cross.

[safe sapphire]

Thank you for your part in that. Your art has been a major part of this mod, and we have been so blessed to have you on board.

[coarse blade]

holy mother of

[safe sapphire]

So you just to be clear you didnt make them?

[nocturne ridge]

No, I did.

[safe sapphire]

Can you post them again if you didn't already? Once again, apologies for the confusion.

[nocturne ridge]

Post them where?

[safe sapphire]

Here or the github

Here might be easier

[celest wraith]

Scrap Man → Venditor Omnium
Gains ^2 of sell value of all jokers as XChips. Increase by ^0.1 if a joker is sold.
(Currently x1 Chips)
Exotic
(Original effect: +25 chips everytime a joker or card is sold)
HEART OF THE SUNRISE→ Cor Aurorae
Aces of Hearts give ^2 Mult and are retriggered 2 times. All Aces count as Aces of Hearts.
Exotic
(Original effect: Aces of Hearts are retriggered twice)
Master of None → Deus Ominum
All scored and in-hand jacks are considered to be all suits and retriggered x times, where x is the amount of jacks in your full deck.
Exotic
(OG effect: All jacks are the same suit.)
Portable Pulsar → Stella Vibrans Portabilis
All scored cards become negative. Negative cards give ^2 Mult and 1 permanent hand size.
Exotic
(First scored card have a fixed 50℅ chance to become negative)
Free Samples → Vita sub Communismo
All booster packs are free and have 10 items and 10 choices. Increase by 5 at the end of the ante.
(Currently 10)
Exotic
(OG effect: You can pull cards out of any booster packs.)

my jokers and ascended variants

@safe sapphire this is very cool mario fan

[nocturne ridge]

https://github.com/Somethingcom515/Ascensio , I also fixed To The Moon

[safe sapphire]

Thanks a thousand! Really appreciate the help with to the moon. Definitely gonna check it to see how you did the event.

[safe sapphire]

Thanks for your interest in the mod. At this moment, we aren't adding any original Jokers to it. That being said, if you develop the mod with those base Jokers and want help implementing compatibility with this mod, I would be more than happy to try to assist you with it. I could also give my opinon on them currently if thats what you want

[celest wraith]

yeah im making my own mod actually

[safe sapphire]

Feel free to make a pull

[nocturne ridge]

Yes, but the assets are wrong currently.

[safe sapphire]

I see. Let me know when you resolve that issue then or need help with it.

[celest wraith]

opinion so i can balance another 236 jokers im making to add to my mod

[nocturne ridge]

I think it is fixed.

[indigo helm]

THE PRIEST

[safe sapphire]

Thanks a thousand. Will take a look at the push soon!

[celest wraith]

tysm ill fix it

[celest wraith]

the master of none joker is a common, so its def going to be an extremely niche joker

[safe sapphire]

Apologize, but would it be possible to remove these ideas and instead create a new thread for them? It is kind of clogging the channel atm

[grizzled tiger]

i thought i misclicked the channel 😭

thats how clogged it is

[celest wraith]

sure

[safe sapphire]

Added Campfire's Ascension: Silva Arden's (Needs Art) and Formidiulosus's Mortal Form: Exorcist. Also, a MASSIVE thanks to Somethingcom515 for their help on the Smeared Joker, Mime, Four Finger, Ceremonial Dagger, and To the Moon exotic. This makes 6.5 Jokers being uploaded in the same night, which is insane! We are making some serious progress.

[nocturne ridge]

I also did the Four Fingers exotic.

[safe sapphire]

Corrected!

Once again, a thousand thanks!

[silent mirage]

@safe sapphire oh yeah I'm the so called priority rhelv guy,

If you want I can give you proof lol

(I gotta change my Google account name)

[safe sapphire]

Interesting to know. So far I think you have been doing good work so keep it up!

[silent mirage]

Thanks

[safe sapphire]

20 more Jokers till we hit the goal. I think we will have it once we add the type mults, type chips, and the remaining type xmults

[opal plank]

insane

[peak escarp]

Teaser-y things? chaotic sketches.

[river fjord]

already have base for type chips (pretty much just inverted type mult)

[river fjord]

definitely using that angel looking one as inspo for the type chips

[safe sapphire]

I think four fingers need some kind of buff. Any ideas?

[silent mirage]

What is it current effect

I'm too lazy to read

And not even on pc

[safe sapphire]

"All Flushes and Straights can be made with 4 cards"

[silent mirage]

This is like epic at best

[safe sapphire]

This is good, but I feel Smeared Joker's exotic does something similar and better executed

"Hearts and Diamonds count as the same suit, Spades and Clubs count as the same suit

If we can add a secondary effect like what Smeared Joker has, I think it will fix the problem

[silent mirage]

Tbh I still think just converts every cards into wild cards and make it gives ^1.1 mult is better still

But whatever

[silent mirage]

When a flush or straight is played, gains x0.5 mult

Good enough right

Straight flushes counts as both so give 1x

[safe sapphire]

I think we could do something a bit more interesting than that. It's something you're gonna be doing anyway, whether you want to or not. Right now, I am thinking there should be some bonus for each extra card you have in a straight or flush.

Actually, wait a sec

This isn't triggering ascension power unlike for fingers

That needs fixed.

[silent mirage]

Oh yeah have you set up stylua on your PC

https://github.com/JohnnyMorganz/StyLua

[safe sapphire]

No, not yet. I can try switching to Visual Studio for it, but I have primarily been using Sublime Text for lua thus far.

[coarse blade]

isn't that default 4 fingers

[safe sapphire]

Sorry, 2 cards

Copied the original effect by mistake from the excel

[silent mirage]

Bro

It's just a command line tool

(also why don't you just use VSCode lol)

Or neovim if you are adventurous

[silent mirage]

Yeah but long story short,

It's editor independent and as long as you can use a terminal you can use it

[safe sapphire]

Cool

[silent mirage]

Do you uh, know how to use a terminal

Or a terminal emulator if you want the full term

[safe sapphire]

I have experience navigating in terminals, I dont think it will be a problem.

[silent mirage]

Aight you can install it via scoop

I'm assuming you are on windows, no?

Scoop is basically a package manager for windows

What it does is it makes it easy to install stuffs

Its registry is also open source

So a mild double edged sword but you can generally trust projects that are open source, just don't trust things that felt sketchy

[opal plank]

i use windsurf for coding

it’s great

[river fjord]

so since i cant really restore the type mults original layers someone else is gonna have to do those
but im working on type chips rn

[safe sapphire]

Here is the atlas for our combined Jolly, if that helps.

[river fjord]

oh

ty

i could probably go ahead and make the others now, just wanna figure out sly first

[silent mirage]

NOT ANOTHER ONE 😭😭😭😭

[river fjord]

heres sly
if theres any changes you wanna make feel free

[safe sapphire]

Wonderful! I might move the position of the cards and wings, but otherwise, I think this is a solid take!

[river fjord]

yea, the one thing i felt could be a little better is the wing and card placement
ty tho

[safe sapphire]

Idea for an updated four fingers effect:

Most hands can be made with fewer cards
Extra cards contribute to Ascension Power

Examples:
Two pair = 2 cards with differing suits and ranks
Flush = 2 cards with the same suit
Straight = 2 cards with ranks one off from each other
Full House = 1 and 2 cards with different ranks
Five of a kind = 3 cards of the same rank
Bulwark = 2 stone cards
Ultimate Pair = regular two pair, but with each pair having two different shared suites
Clusterfuck = 3 cards of different suits and ranks
TEFD = 52 cards played regardless of suite or rank.

[safe sapphire]

I think with this it might be worthy of exotic

[wooden mulch]

What about high card

[safe sapphire]

That is why I said most. High card will just be high card.

[wooden mulch]

Yea makes sense

There's already a joker that makes high card go nuclear

Also i have a question regarding one joker

The die one who has multiple abilities and you can cycle through them

Are all of his abilities apply their effects or only the current chosen one?

[safe sapphire]

I believe you are thinking about a Joker from Entropy.

[frail totem]

^

also it only does the applied one

[wooden mulch]

ooh yeah right, my bad

Sry

[opal plank]

eh?

[safe sapphire]

Expanding on this since I want all hands to still be available:
An option is to make 4oak 3 cards and 5oak 4 cards, but I don't think this is ideal
I think we would have to make it two cards with the same rank and suit, but that would make it easier to play than a full house, which seems weird to me, but it would require deck fixing, so it is probably fine. A pair would then be two cards with shared rank, with differing suits.
As for 3oak, maybe we have it where if your hand only has three cards it always counts as a three of a kind? That is a very hack solution though. Maybe we just need a prefrence setting?

[twin oasis]

Is there a release for all the new content thats been added so far in here recently or not yet?

[safe sapphire]

I am planning to offer the first real realise once we get to (currently 72) Jokers. I am waiting to do this as one of the key features of the mod will be to transform cards to their exotic counterpart, and I don't think playing the mod before that feature is fleshed out will give a good picture of what it is trying to be. We also still need to iron out some bugs and features across the board. Feel free to view what we have on the Github currently if you want a sneak peek!

[twin oasis]

I have some versions of it in Balatro and its really fun for what there is currently I am quite excited to see the rest

[safe sapphire]

I think we should definitely keep this idea in our back pocket when/if we get to Ortlab. The current effect is actually much more suited to be Prismatic Joker's ascension effect instead. When that happens, I think we will use this one as a replacment for smeared's effect.

[safe sapphire]

Had to cheat a hint to get the full name in. Metamorphic programming is a technique where a program can change its internal structure while maintaining its functionality. While usually this is used more sinisterly by viruses, in this context it is here to remake a card into a better version of itself.

I think a code card is fitting for this effect: "Transforms one viable Joker into their ascended form for 3 rounds".

This will take the form of a sticker on the Joker that saves what the original Joker was, so even if you used it on a gaining Joker, you can get right back to it after the effect without having to start over.

If it is a code card, I will need to balance it with multiply to somehow not invalidate it. I don't think it will as some Exotic effects couldn't be gotten by just mutilating stats. As well, some exotics need time to "charge up" so multiply could be better in that scenerio. Maybe it just needs to be half as common as the normal code card?

Also, metamorphic can't be stacked unlike multiply

[safe sapphire]

I may also have to limit the use of commit on these transformed jokers. It's bad enough when that happens with a Translucent Joker, but at least you need to fully own one before that happens.

[celest wraith]

NGPC X is too broken
Its just a better Speculo on cracks
@safe sapphire

Speculo creates a negative copie of one random joker
while NGPC X just makes 2 of every
and you don't even need space

thats ridiculously broken

also if i read correctly, NGPC X doesn't exclude itself from the duplicate pool

so it'll break the game as fast as you think it should

nerf NGPC X

even if its at the end of the ante it is still too powerful

[safe sapphire]

Sorry, having trouble guessing the name. The exotic of what Joker?

[celest wraith]

nostaligic googol play card

at the end of ante creates 2 copies of every joker (doesnt mention that it excludes itself)

which means by ante 1 you would have 3 exotics that will grow in numbers exponentially

[safe sapphire]

I agree, that's busted. It seems it was edited. The original effect there was "Create 2 copies of every owned Joker when sold". I was considering nerfs to the Blueprint and Brainstorm exotic anyway. The effect you mentioned is not happening.

[celest wraith]

yipee

[celest wraith]

is this a consumable

[safe sapphire]

Yes

[safe sapphire]

Also: I want to get around to fixing the "boring" exotics we currently have. Things like the type xmults deck fixing and sinful Jokers. They don't all need to have 6 lines of text but hopefully they can be more than just mindlessly playing cards.

[safe sapphire]

@tribal moth I noticed a problem with the following Jokers in that they are still animating despite either being flipped or needing to be unlocked:

Defectus
Tabula Lapudia
Desiderium
Magnum Opus
Transcripto Virtualis

I believe the common factor between them is that they have animated backgrounds. If you have any idea how this could be resolved, I would greatly appreciate your insight.

[tribal moth]

...oh shit

[safe sapphire]

Honestly, if you could make it a toggle I think it would be great to keep for defectus

[peak escarp]

For the sinfuls, same effect as current, but additionally...
Wrath X - Played spades have a chance to destroy other cards that are not spades held in hand and add ^0.1 mult to this joker.
Lust X - Played hearts have a chance to retrigger adjacent hearts.
Gluttony X - Clubs give more mult (regular mult?) the more clubs there are? Or would that be more applicable to greed?
Greed X - Diamonds give money equal to previously scored (not including retriggers?) diamonds.

[safe sapphire]

Honestly, I think this is really good. It also doesn't conflate with the stones. Thanks for this!

[peak escarp]

Oh thanks!

[tribal moth]

At line 154 on cardanim.lua, the following conditional:

if not anim_details[card_key] then
    goto i_card_continue
end

skips animation. I don't remember what the property of a center is that states if a card is flipped or not, but you can do something like

if not anim_details[card_key] or card_is_flipped then

card.config.center would be the afforementioned center

[safe sapphire]

I will give it a shot!

[nocturne ridge]

It would be card.facing == 'back'

[safe sapphire]

That did indeed solve the flipped card issue. Now to solve the unlock issue.

[silent mirage]

Do we have Dusk Ascended yet

If not here's my shot

crepusculum (dusk)
Retrigger all played cards once, double after each hand played this round. Resets at the end of round.

[silent mirage]

Assuming you have 5 hands, you can potentially retrigger the last hand 32 times.

[silent mirage]

Good work goat

[safe sapphire]

Amazing!

[silent mirage]

Inanis is my favorite joker

(effect wise)

[tribal moth]

Do individual cards have a property stating if they're unlocked or not, or is it a property of the Joker etc itself?

Oh wait actually

[safe sapphire]

The later. I know its kept in game.P_CENTERS. I dont know how to grab it though

Wait, thats just for the default state

Would need to get it from the profile somehow

[tribal moth]

Ah, I see

But that check would feed into a conditional also on line 154

Cant help much since I'm on mobile/abt to sleep

dammit and now the problem is that a mod with higher priority than this mod that also has the cardanim script will override the changes made, and undiscovered/flipped cards are gonna be animated

[safe sapphire]

Reasons to make it a seperate api:

[tribal moth]

Actually the script could be reworked so that it only works within the scope of the mod itself, i.e. only updates cards from the mod

[silent mirage]

Fortune Teller Ascended - vaticinium (prophecy)

At the end of the shop, increase the consumables slot by 1. At the end of the round, create a random tarot card. The probability that a Soul appears is substantially increased. For each tarot card or Soul card used, gains 0.1 ^mult.

[tribal moth]

But then that means each mod using cardanim is skimming through all cards on screen every frame - kinda fine for now since not many cardanim users but could scale badly if more mods use the script

[tribal moth]

I just might honestly, I can only pray everyone else using cardanim rn will understand

[silent mirage]

Next time you wake up just move everything to a separate folder then start testing

[safe sapphire]

It doesn't need to be solved tonight. No worries.

[tribal moth]

Yeah I'll worry about it later, i got some other stuff to worry about first

[silent mirage]

What needs to be solved is you going to bed bro you have to take care of yourself first and foremost

[tribal moth]

Will do 🫡

[silent mirage]

Got a rather bad case of depression a while back and it wrecked my academic performance

You should take care of yourself mentally and physically

Don't want to be in my position

I also fucking hate bureaucracy as an HFA person

Anyway I'm stuck on my phone for a while

[safe sapphire]

Got the fix with the help of seals. The full line is:
if not anim_details[card_key] or card.facing == 'back' or not card.config.center.unlocked or not card.config.center.discovered then

[silent mirage]

I'm going insane

[silent mirage]

Egg Ascended - anser aureus (golden goose)
At the end of round, ^2 self's sell value. This joker gives +n mult with n being its sell value.

[opal plank]

i like somethingcom’s nickname as “seals”

[celest wraith]

all of the joker exotic ideas have been done but you can comment your ideas in the official thingy idfk what do you call it

[silent mirage]

Google doc is stupid

I ain't using it

[celest wraith]

its not even doc😭

its excel

[silent mirage]

Whatever

[celest wraith]

but all of the ideas are made and balanced already i think
is that right @safe sapphire

[silent mirage]

Don't think so

[safe sapphire]

Only the fully green ones are made. Even then, I am gonna go back and rework some of the ones that have been already implemented

[celest wraith]

oki

[celest wraith]

yeah go wild ill go to sleep

[silent mirage]

Sequentia

[safe sapphire]

Apologies, I need to clean up the suggestions doc so we can put entries for the newest Jokers, but Starfruit's seems pretty easy.

Exotic Starfruit:
Gains ^0.05 Mult with each reroll.

[silent mirage]

Carambola

Egg Ascended - anser aureus (golden goose)
At the end of round, ^2 self's sell value. This joker gives +n mult with n being its sell value.

Bump

Stone joker ascended - monolithus

At the end of the turn, turn all cards on hand into stone cards, this joker gives ^0.1 chips for each stone card you have. Played stone cards increase the amount by 0.01

[hearty adder]

Paved Joker ascension
Pavimentum (Pavement)

• Stone cards count as every rank at once and as every suit at once

maybe make this so that it doesn't automatically score as TEFD

[fervent sierra]

i had an very similar idea like this for overclock ascended

"all playing cards count as and give the chip value of every rank at once"

[celest wraith]

Exotic Buttercup:
All items in the shop are free. Every purchase gives you the original buy value of the item as +Mult.
(Currently +0 Mult.)

Calix Butyri

[fervent sierra]

simple yet effective, could be changed to be a bit stronger but you're good.

[celest wraith]

justifiable because buttercup is a mid joker in its mortal form

[fervent sierra]

lol

[celest wraith]

unless its negative i just let my monkey dagger eat it

[celest wraith]

Calix Butyri + Crustulum

[fervent sierra]

true

[celest wraith]

creative mode frfr

i just fixed it

[fervent sierra]

GOATED

[celest wraith]

easy to scale but not too broken

same as crustulum

[celest wraith]

@safe sapphire is this peam

[fervent sierra]

i really like how it's ability synergizes with crustulum's ability while also scaling just as good with +mult

[celest wraith]

Secret Achievement:
Sorry, not sorry.
Buy cube when you have Calix Butyri
(-27 mult lmfao)

[fervent sierra]

"Not Sorry." sounded cool to me

[celest wraith]

Secret Achievement:
Day light robbery
Own Crustulum and Calix Butyri at once

[fervent sierra]

refference to reeses sloagan

[celest wraith]

hmm

thats cool

Exotic Jawbreaker:
Exponenate all values of all cards (playing cards, jokers, consumables) by ^2 at the end of ante, then self-destructs

@fervent sierra is this peam

Capitifractor

[fervent sierra]

true

[celest wraith]

reminds me of fortunato in all in jest

[silent mirage]

Me when deck of equilibrium

The Xekanos

[celest wraith]

ascended editions and enhancements:
Glass: Vitrum
^2 Mult. If one Vitrum card breaks, all other Vitrum card in current deck also breaks.
1/10 chance to break.

Stone: Lapis
x1 chips. Increase by 0.1 for every Stone card played. Increase by 0.5 for every Lapis card played.

[fervent sierra]

Carambola (Starfruit ascended)
Booster Packs are Rerolled after every 2 rerolls
Gains ^0.02 Mult fo every dollar spent rerolling
(Currently ^1 Mult)

[celest wraith]

Fragile: Fragilis
^3 Mult. If one Fragilis card breaks, everything you have self-destructs.
19/20 chance to not be destroyed at the end of the round.

[celest wraith]

is ascended editions and enhancements cool gang

Lucky: Felix
1 in 5 chance to x2 Mult.
1 in 20 chance to x20 Money.
Fixed 1 in 5000 chance to ^^20 Mult.

Wild: Iocus
Can not be debuffed or destroyed whatsoever.

Echo: Memoria
Cards are retriggered 2 times. 1/2 chance to be retriggered another 10 times. Every time the probability is successfully hit, increase the amount of retriggers by 1.

Light: Lux
When played with 5 other scoring cards, gain ^0.02 Mult and increase requirement by 5.

[fervent sierra]

Bonus: Tessera
X3 Chips, increases by X0.3 when scored.

[celest wraith]

Abstract: Ignotus
^^1.15 Mult
Counts as its own rank and suit
1 in 40 chance to destroy card when held at round end or after scoring. When one is destroyed, convert adjacent cards into Abstract Cards.

Glitched: Laceratus
All values on this card are randomized between ^1.1 and ^10
(If possible)

Mosaic: Musivum
^2.5 Chips.

[fervent sierra]

Mult: Crescens
Gains X0.2 Mult when a card is scored.

Steel: Titanium (not a latin word but it sounded cool)
^1.1 Mult for every titanium card held in hand.

Noisy: Strepitus
X1-3 Chips/Mult, increases by X0.1 when scored

[celest wraith]

Oversaturated: Supersaturatus
^^2 all values on this card

[fervent sierra]

WOW Iis tetration even balanced or is it because oversaturated is peak too

[celest wraith]

gurh idk

i made it so it would be different from glitched iguess

[fervent sierra]

true

[celest wraith]

Golden: Aureus
x2 Money when triggered

Blurred: Obscurus
(Same effect as Echo X)

Astral: Universum stellatum
^^1.1 Mult

nah too powerful

there we go

Jolly: Festivus
+80 Mult.
If played hand is a pair:
+80 Mult
x8 Mult
^1.8 Mult
^^1.08 Mult.

Double-Sided: Bifrons
If one side is triggered, trigger the other twice.

[fervent sierra]

Ascended... Seals?: Notatio

Nota Rubra
Retrigger this card once, 1 in 4 chance to retrigger again, this effect rolls 4 times.

[celest wraith]

Deck: Wow deck
All Editions and Enhancements are Ascended.

[celest wraith]

Nota Amethystus: When discarded or played, create 5 random negative tarot and spectrals.

Nota Aurum: When played, give x2 money.

Nota Indicus:
If played, destroy this card and give 5 Black Holes or White Holes.

is that all

[fervent sierra]

Nota Caeruleum
Creates a Negative Planet card for played poker hand if held in hand

[celest wraith]

what is the mortal form of this

[fervent sierra]

Blue seal

its no longer restricted to the final hand played

[celest wraith]

hmm

ok

Nota Samaragdus:
Create a Negative ://POINTER if played

[fervent sierra]

Nota Viridis
Creates a negative code card for every unscoring card, including this one when played.

[celest wraith]

MINE IS COOLER

[fervent sierra]

you da boss

[celest wraith]

draw art

😊

[fervent sierra]

FUCK IT ASCENDED STICKERS: Sigils (probaly not latin but its cool)

Absolute: Omnipotens
Cannot be removed, AT ALL.
When a new run is made, this joker will persist and become Absolute.

[nocturne ridge]

Isn't that just smeared joker exotic but only for stone cards and cards can still be debuffed?

[fervent sierra]

We have to ascend fuckin poker hands

i had the idea of the chips/mult operator being increased

ASCEND THE DECK

are consumables also getting ascended

Planet Cards: Galaxia Cards
Increases the ranks of poker hands
(Ranks are converted to the operator of the poker hand, which also becomes latin)

Milky Way
(RNK:0)
Promotes Full House to a higher rank

Boomerang Nebula
(RNK:0)
Promotes High card to a higher rank

The Inevitable Slow yet Painful Heat Death of our Universe In All its Glory
(RNK:0)
Promotes The Entire Fucking Deck to a higher rank

[silent mirage]

Apotheosized Joker - Klooun

^^2 mult.

[fervent sierra]

WOOOOW WHat

what mod is apotheosized is from

what thte coole

[silent mirage]

The apotheosis card

[fervent sierra]

oh i forgot

[silent mirage]

Basically it's entropy mod compat

[fervent sierra]

oooohhhh

[silent mirage]

We need more entropic jonklers

[fervent sierra]

KERNEL://
Ascends 1 Selected Consumable

[silent mirage]

Doesn't entropy already have a sudo card

[fervent sierra]

fair

what else should it be called

[silent mirage]

Kernel

[fervent sierra]

noted

[silent mirage]

Oh hello fellow autist

[fervent sierra]

hi!

[silent mirage]

Rate my GitHub languages tier list

[fervent sierra]

not that tech nutty sorry

[silent mirage]

Sob

[fervent sierra]

its okay man

ill learn some other time

[fervent sierra]

what would the sprite for this even look like

[silent mirage]

No idea

[silent mirage]

Learn Lua bro

[fervent sierra]

okie

[safe sapphire]

Even if it wasn't the main focus, I think I am coming around to this idea of making improved version of things, at least for exotics. It could be a good way to simultaneously stay faithful yet seem new.

For example, while I think the current Booster Joker effect is solid, I was imagining recently that it could also have the ability to unlock imported versions of packs that could appear in the shop. Imagine an improved empowered pack that didn't require you to sacrifice your Jokers to get an exotic.

We could even make a voucher out of it

[silent mirage]

do you needs materials

to study it

i have some

[fervent sierra]

im working on learning by my own pace

[fervent sierra]

true

[silent mirage]

https://github.com/MarioFan597/Ascensio/pull/17
dogfooding

[safe sapphire]

I will take a look at it tommorow morning. Thanks for this!

I will try to figure out that program you mentioned

[silent mirage]

it's not that hard bro i literally just have to type stylua . in the project root

[grizzled tiger]

please be careful of scopecreep

[steep flame]

what's that?

[silent mirage]

JIT

[celest wraith]

Higher Hands:
High Card --> The One of All.
5 Chips x 1 Mult -->
5 Chips ^ 1 Mult.
Pair --> Double or Nothing
10 chips x 2 Mult -->
10 chips ^ 2 Mult.
Two Pair --> Akimbo
20 chips x 2 Mult -->
20 Chips ^ 2 Mult.
Three of a Kind --> Tri-gore
30 chips x 3 Mult --> 30 chips ^ 3 Mult
F(4)OAK --> The Four Horsemen of Gambling
60 chips x 7 Mult --> 60 chips ^ 7 Mult.
Straight --> One-way Ticket to Heaven
30 chips x 4 Mult -->
30 chips ^ 4 Mult.
Flush --> Colour of Singularity
35 chips x 4 Mult-->
35 chips ^ 4 Mult.
Full House --> Happy Family
40 chips x 4 Mult --> 40 chips ^ 4 Mult

might as well ascend everything if we are ascending jokers

Ascended Vouchers:
Blank (+Tiers) --> Collaspe of Reality
+10 Joker slots. Increase by 1 every Ante.
Planet Vouchers --> The Entirety of All
All Planet Cards are replaced by Lua. Lua is always guaranteed to hit. Planet Cards are 40x times more likely to appear. You can control Planet spawn rates.

Tarot Vouchers --> The Merchant
Alongside Tarot cards, Spectral Cards can also naturally spawn in shops. You can control the spawn rate of both. All consumables can spawn with negative edition.

Director's Cut --> The Auditioner
All boss rerolls are free. You can choose what boss to fight.

Overstock --> The Super Mall
+2 Card slots, +2 Voucher slots, +2 Booster Pack slots.

Clearance Sale --> Black Friday
Everything in the shop costs -1 Dollars

Reroll Surplus --> Endless Loop
Each reroll gives you 2 dollars. Increase by 1 dollar every rolls.

[silent mirage]

effectively infinite money bro

[celest wraith]

its an ascended voucher for a reason or maybe you can balance it

idfk

[silent mirage]

yeah my balance is just make reroll free then

[celest wraith]

crustulum:

[silent mirage]

sorry bro, this is meant to be accessible

[safe sapphire]

Wording can use some work

[river sluice]

I think the wording looks alright

[peak escarp]

Interesting, so this kinda reminds me of ortalabs zodiacs, right? But just applied to the hand itself, with no decay. Hmm. I don't exactly have an exact suggetion to play this aside from 'take notes from ortalab zodiac', but it's something to think about.

[safe sapphire]

It isn't my intent to just copy the Ortalab effects. My original idea with this was that every sum card would have a variation of this effect, but with their respective ranks/suits. For example, The Duo's exotic would turn half of the cards held in hand to the first rank and the other half to the second. That being said, I think the extra effect of these Sum exotics should help to make up the difference for the spread out ^mult. Ideas would be apperciated.

I will note that the exception would be The Filler's exotic, which would turn every card held in hand into an exact copy of the high card

[safe sapphire]

Alternative Idea:

[safe sapphire]

I am guessing the first one is the preferred version?

[tribal moth]

I think first iteration is much more dynamic and allows for interesting plays

Also regarding wording, if the expMult and conversion both occurs if played hand contains a Flush, probably move "if played hand contains a Flush" to the start of the description

Because right now the wording has ambiguity:

[^2 Mult AND convert...] IF played hand contains a Flush

^2 Mult AND [convert ...  IF played hand contains a Flush]

So by doing the re-move:

IF played hand contains a Flush, [^2 Mult AND convert...]

[safe sapphire]

Gotcha

[hushed flare]

hey the uhh weird dagger exotic joker is crashing my game is there a fix where I can keep my run or do I just have to find a way to delete it

[safe sapphire]

Apologies, can you detail what caused it?

[hushed flare]

hovering over it

the crash message mentions the field "get_probability_vars" and states that its a nil value

I only assume its a dagger item cuz the item listed in the crash is ceremonial.lua if Im wrong about it

its the one with the blade broken in like 3

it also does the same in collection menu so its not another joker changing the variables on it

[frail totem]

sounds like update smods

[safe sapphire]

I think thats the issue here

[frail totem]

and also mariofan maybe increase the required version of smods so the issue is clearer

[hushed flare]

it is a lot of mods haha

[safe sapphire]

Will do

[nocturne ridge]

Yes, update SMODS, that version is old.

[hushed flare]

is there an easy way to do that or is it just delete the old put in a new manually

[nocturne ridge]

You delete the old version and put in the new version.

[hushed flare]

does that delete my run btw?

[nocturne ridge]

No.

[hushed flare]

sick

sorry for bringing up a skill issue on my part ty for your help guys <3

[safe sapphire]

I'll put the latest Cryptid as a requirement

[safe sapphire]

Question: What is the thing that would best help someone playing pairs?

[frail totem]

if theyre deliberately playing pairs over 3oak, 4oak, 5oak or above, i have to imagine it'd be enhancements, editions and seals

[coarse blade]

rank conversion for sure

[safe sapphire]

Follow-up Question: Should I change the type cards to only activate when they are that type rather than contain it?

I feel that might be going against the original intent of the card at that point though

[safe sapphire]

I think I've got the way to balance these Sum Jokers. What if, in addition / in place of deck fixing, we also give a bonus for the amount of that hand type in the played hand? The smaller hands, for example, can level up much faster as they can be obtained without expanding the hand selection size, which will make up for their smaller starting ^mult

[coarse blade]

ie like for exotic family, if 4oak is played, levels up pair 3 times, levels up 3oak 2 times, and 4 oak once??????

idk

[safe sapphire]

Sorry, not level up, gain ^mult. The filler's exotic would only have a gain of like 0.05 where as a far more complex hand like 5oak would have like ^0.5

The values would need to be adjusted but you get the point

[silent mirage]

M

[safe sapphire]

This isn't the final version of these Jokers, as I still want to experiment with that other idea I mentioned for them, but for now, I uploaded these changes to the Sum Jokers on the GitHub. Let me know what you think of them.

[proud venture]

whats wrong with this?

[opal plank]

update everything 😭

[iron cipher]

WTF IS THAT 0.5.1 CRYPTID 💀

[safe sapphire]

I updated the requirement to the latest cryptid and Steam modded

[frail totem]

your cryptid is older than 20% of the people in this server

[tribal moth]

So old Jesus wrote a comment in the source code

[proud venture]

oke thanks appreciate it ✌🏻

[frail totem]

i like how this implies the comment was deleted by someone who supposedly was better than jesus at programming

[grizzled tiger]

your version is a fucking fossil

[opal hazel]

last time I checked he was a carpenter so idk how hard that is

wait hold on shouldn't we set up a discord server at some point?
ah well maybe that can wait until that 70-something mark

[river fjord]

surprised your cryptid isnt on display in a museum somewhere

[safe sapphire]

Thats the idea

[opal hazel]

Ps, as a lil break from my ongoing resprite of Redeo i'm doing Magic Mirror (mortal Speculo) for fun

(so uh just checking the name is approved is all)

[safe sapphire]

Magic Mirror is a solid name. Feel free to work with that prompt.

[opal hazel]

Done. went for a simple design using the mirror from Speculo and only 1/3 rings from that inbetween layer speculo has. I think it fits the bill well enough, what do you think?

[safe sapphire]

I like it, but I think it is a bit hard to parse. I think we need to make the mirror bigger and if we are sticking with that background give the halo some kind of outline.

Same with the O in Joker. I understand why you did it, it is to mimic the mirror, but it should of had a black outline instead of a whit one.

One last thing, the outline in the mirror is a bit too dark (yatta yatta balatro black yatta yatta). Not a requirement, but I would appreciate it if you could lighten it up a bit.

I do think the core design is solid! Good work!

[opal hazel]

I've ran out of time for today but here's the quick edits I was able to do to the joker (also note that the joker text is not as dark as balatro black which is why the outline is slightly darker)

-# hopefully this is better (tho the mirror could be bigger tbh but can't do it till tommorow if it's too small)

anyway gn

[safe sapphire]

Thanks!

[tribal moth]

the giants we stand on could only do so much

[silent mirage]

Sophonia

[safe sapphire]

Based on conversations and research, my idea for the code card isn't going to work with how it would use stickers. While realistically I am probably going to have to change the effect, I think there is potentially a much cooler solution to be had here. What if we created a new object, which, for lack of a better name, I will just call "Dyna Stickers".
Dyna Stickers would be a combination of Stickers and Jokers in that each Dyna Sticker is considered its own object but can access the Joker it is "on top of" for its effect. They would have the specialization of being able to be created with specific info, so the same Dyna Sticker could serve multiple purposes. Here is an example. Let's say I wanted to make a sticker that gives mult equal to the round it was placed on. That info is specific to the moment it is placed and would need to change based on when that happened.
While I realize this might be beyond my capabilities, I think this kind of object type would allow for a new world of Joker design ideas. I might spend some time seeing how viable this idea could be.

[river fjord]

im gonna continue the type mult and chips once i find a new pixel art software bcs ive just been using online stuff and its not really that useful + i need to actually be able to import some assets in as layers

[safe sapphire]

I use Kirita if that helps. Not specifically for pixel art, but can definitely work for it.

[river fjord]

ok ill check that out (dont rlly feel like paying for aseprite)

[tribal moth]

Libresprite (fork of Aseprite) is also an option - while limited in features compared to aseprite, it retains most of the important functions, and then some

You can also sell all your mortal possessions to the Devil and compile Aseprite yourself for free

[opal plank]

or you can sail the seven seas

[safe sapphire]

I think this would be worth taking some time off from Ascensio's development to make. Would anyone be interested in trying to help develop this with me?

[glad fable]

imagine an exotic joker called acensio where equipping it on a joker gives it its exotic variant and vice versa

[safe sapphire]

One of the reasons I want to pursue this is because of ideas like this. I think that could be a fun idea for a Joker!

[glad fable]

this will be a peak mod

[silent mirage]

@safe sapphire I think sui replicatio needs a tiny buff: it won't destroy cards that are an exact copy of the played card:

Aka same suit same enhancement same seal same edition etc

[safe sapphire]

I fully agree. I definitely need to make that change.

[silent mirage]

I'd contribute had I understood the API lmao

[safe sapphire]

That's understandable. I am also asking for help because of a lack of full understanding.

[silent mirage]

I compiled Aseprite myself

[opal plank]

hey @agile flint idk if you even have instagram but js know that when i saw this i immediately thought of your work

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMIhE2eqUcx/?igsh=MXN5NzZrNnNrcm85aQ==

6vcr

hey, guys! since I work full-time in game development, I don’t have much time to create personal art these days. here’s a video featuring almost all of my vertical animations! they’re also available as wallpapers — this way, I support myself a little as an independent artist alongside my main job. thanks for sticking around!

#pixelart

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Instagram

[agile flint]

Yeah, nah, I'm not doing large scale pixel art, well atleast not yet since I'm not satisfied enough with my usual painting stuff that I can branch out and merge them together (also I do have insta, but its abandoned atp, I dont feel the need to mention it )

[opal plank]

i’m just saying that your artwork is incredible, really

[agile flint]

aha thanks, but ngl, I still am not really satisfied with my works, I probably need to be less harsh to myself, but I just can't shake the feeling that I always missing smth everytime

[safe sapphire]

Posting it here so I don't forget.
Contra Homo Rework:
x1.7 total money if played hand
contains an ace or 7
and destroys them

I think the money multiplier should come with some cost, so you don't just reach $10000 before round 4

Purus Aurum Rework:
x1.2 money total money at end of round
1 in 4 chance each round to increase multiplier by 0.1
Debuffs a random Joker each hand

Same idea. The idea with the debuff is that you are caving into the evil influence of the mani mani statue. You want money? You got it, but at a cost.

Thoughts as always are apperciated.

[grizzled tiger]

Contra Homo's downside is actually pretty fitting

oh yeah speaking of ultraviolence, did 7-2 X have any art ideas yet

or art in general

too lazy to check sheet rn

[safe sapphire]

Is that the one with the red tree?

[grizzled tiger]

nah, its light up the night

[safe sapphire]

I think we do need it if my memory is correct.

[grizzled tiger]

yknow what

i'll give it a go

[safe sapphire]

Double check before you start but it would be greatly apperciated

[grizzled tiger]

yup its unclaimed

also i think it should be ^mult rather than ^chips

[safe sapphire]

Sure, if you think it's fitting

[grizzled tiger]

well i mean yeah

the original is mult

we cant up and change its effect location no?

[safe sapphire]

True

We do want it to have essentially the same effect as the original.

[grizzled tiger]

please do note that i am notoriously slow btw lmao

[opal hazel]

don't worry, no matter how slow you are, I am way slower than that fr

[silent mirage]

Contra Alios

Each played 7 or 2 gives ^1.2 Mult.

Contra Ipse

Retrigger the first played 7 4 times and all subsequent 7s twice the previous amount.

[iron cipher]

^1.2 for just 2 ranks is kinda weak
make it ^1.5

[silent mirage]

too strong ^0.9 better

actually make it ^0.5 (sqrt is very big)

[opal hazel]

these effects are really unffitting and boring (and kinda weak) so i'm forcefuly redeoing them (sorry theofficialfem & hssr)

-# uh here's my new idea for flash card idk

[silent mirage]

the name is mildy ass tho sorry man

[opal hazel]

it wasn't my name idk take it up with the original author

[silent mirage]

also tbh why do yall even adding reset anyway

wasnt cryptid supposed to be unbalanced as fuck

[silent mirage]

factorial increment is also very computationally heavy

[opal hazel]

I did nerf it so it should reset faster to reduce stress tho I should proobably nerf it again

-# if that's the problem idk jack shit

[silent mirage]

the purpose of the original joker incentivize rerolling

this, however, make rerolling a gamble

[opal hazel]

fair point but idk how to balance a factorially scaling joker other than making it not factorially scale

also is new popcorn exotic good or too strong

[silent mirage]

Factorial scaling is boring

[silent mirage]

Here's my proposal:
Each reroll gives this Joker +2 Mult. Has a 1 in 256 chance to halves that value then +1 the gain value every time you reroll.

[opal hazel]

Has a 1 in 256 chance to halves that value then +1 the gain value every time you reroll.
I don't get this part am I stupid?

[silent mirage]

No you're not I am bro

So

The joker gains 2 mult every time you reroll

Each reroll however, also has a 1/256 chance to halves the accumulated gain

Like +162 mult -> +81 mult

When that happens, the increment is increased by 1

So it gains 3 mult per reroll

So this scale quadratically ig

[opal hazel]

that chance is way too unlikely tbh and yeah the reason I did factorially was because I thought hey we already have Double scale and scalae we couldn't possibly do quadratic scaling but yeah

[silent mirage]

How about terminally

[silent mirage]

Like 2? = 2 + 1 = 3

3? = 3 + 2 + 1 = 6

[opal hazel]

that could work

[silent mirage]

4? = 10

So on

[opal hazel]

here's a lil rework based on your effect and my old effect

[silent mirage]

Also make it floor

[opal hazel]

-# floor?

uh idk what floor means here :x

[silent mirage]

Floor in math

[opal hazel]

oh right yeah rounding it down I forgot what floor was for a moment
-# (unfortunately I can't code so I can't really handle that)

[silent mirage]

I could code but I have little to no problem solving skills

[opal hazel]

also here's what I did for the other exotics (ignore the 3rd one, that's not mine) I said I'll rework, do any of them seem too busted or problematic?

[silent mirage]

Ascended Genie Joker

(there is that genie joker in astronomica)

[opal hazel]

also thank you I forgot what mod genie joker was from

[silent mirage]

Anyway if the first one affects itself, thing is going to be absolutely crazy

[opal hazel]

STILL SCALES SLOWER THAN DUPLICARE THOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (not really lol)

[silent mirage]

Duplicare is easier to scale

But both scale at the same level

[silent mirage]

Jimball Ascended - Sphaera

Gains ^0.15 mult if the played hand is the most played hand, then double the increment. If not, fully reset this jonkler

[opal plank]

wow this is powerful

me with my dastardly high card build:

actually better yet, me with my even more dastardly none build:

[celest wraith]

me spamming the play button
the cards in my deck

[spring grove]

took me a second 💀

[silent mirage]

jonkle

[safe sapphire]

One of the reasons I want to change the cash exotics

[silent mirage]

Wasn't money supposed to be omeganum

So it doesn't explodes

[safe sapphire]

Apologies, you are right

[river fjord]

were talking about big dollar dollar huh?
well i did this in entropy once

[silent mirage]

anyway im making a pr for dna changes, if its not too bothersome @safe sapphire

i believe we have spoken about this, no?

is this a good description of the effect?

also this joker NEEDS a copy cap

otherwise pc gonna explodes

(the pc when it has to render like 1.0e300 cards at the same time)

i dare say 64 is more than reasonable

[silent mirage]

@safe sapphire actually what if we "converts" every cards in hand into the played card

[fervent sierra]

i dont think i can wait for exotic baron i just got this build off wormhole deck

[celest wraith]

Baron --> Rex Mundi
Each King in hand gives ^1.15 Mult. Increase by 0.15 for every played king.

the current baron i felt like is loosing its original flare

baron x i mean

[safe sapphire]

Apologies in the delay getting back to you. I would prefer if we could still add it to the deck as it is closer to what the original did.

Thank you for trying to make the change!

[silent mirage]

Technically it's pretty much the same thing bro

But yeah I haven't modded in a while how do I get the card datas

[safe sapphire]

        if context.individual or context.forcetrigger then
            if (context.cardarea == G.play and context.other_card:is_suit("Hearts")) or context.forcetrigger then
                return {
                    message = localize({
                        type = "variable",
                        key = "a_powmult",
                        vars = { lenient_bignum(card.ability.extra.e_mult) },
                    }),
                    Emult_mod = lenient_bignum(card.ability.extra.e_mult),
                    colour = G.C.DARK_EDITION,
                }
            end
        end
    end,```

Here is the calculate function for lusty joker if that helps

[silent mirage]

Hmmm but I wanna get the suit itself

[safe sapphire]

Look at was was done for the Sum Jokers. I think it would help you out.

[grizzled tiger]

quick concept art of the light up the night exotic

[blissful finch]

I love how the gutter-tank dies after killing the gutter man in-game

[grizzled tiger]

do we like this, before i start

alternatively, it could be the coffinless Gutterman crushing the skull of its power source, alluded to in 7-2's poem

[peak escarp]

awwhghhggasiasdgjkasdgjksl!!
-# (It's awesome.)

[river fjord]

alright demotivation over, time to lock in for the type mults
just a question @safe sapphire would you be able to handle doing the cards at the bottom of the joker and stuff (bcs idk where to get the card assets and stuff from)

ill send all the atlases once done

[river fjord]

heres the type mults (the vanilla ones only), gonna do type chips tomorrow (as i said cards aint done yet)

[grizzled tiger]

in-game location reference image for background

cooler angle + setpiece timing

[river fjord]

oooo

peak <3

[agile flint]

This looks awesome alr 🔥

[grizzled tiger]

presenting the final product!

i decided to do away with the "eye" flash

@safe sapphire tada

[safe sapphire]

Love it!

Do have a question about the boarders though. Is there a reason they are flat colored? It would be up to you, but if not I think making them look more metallic may be the way to go. Also, I think they might look better if they were flipped layer wise. Let me know your thoughts on it.

Will take it as is if you dont think those changes would be for the better.

[grizzled tiger]

none of the other violence exotics have those corners shaded

[tribal moth]

Yeah I made them flat colored for the other UK X Jokers

[tribal moth]

BTW can I just say you did this Joker hella justice

I held off from doing LUTN X bc i p much didn't have any idea for it - your idea works really well

[grizzled tiger]

thank :D

flipped borders

honestly i think the background mightve been the hardest part

punching the guttertank gibs out of the arena to get a good screenshot was actually surprisingly hard

[safe sapphire]

Nice

[silent mirage]

Iirc it just use context.poker_hand["Flush"]

[silent mirage]

Add a few falling pods in the background

[grizzled tiger]

not a game-accurate setpiece, sorry

[silent mirage]

Hmmm, I didn't read the newer messages

Sorry

[grizzled tiger]

theres only one drop pod thats visible from this angle

[silent mirage]

But what about the earthmovers in the bg

[grizzled tiger]

obscured by the wall

[silent mirage]

Imo it's the most striking part of 7-2

[grizzled tiger]

i also didnt want to do the same thing twice

[silent mirage]

Ok what about gunfires

[grizzled tiger]

when i took the screenshot there wasnt any in the air

i did have to reposition the drop pod from the screenshot in the art

but thats neither here nor there

[silent mirage]

I mean the current art doesn't have the "pop"-iness other violence jokers had

Not saying it's bad but I feel like it is a bit unpolished for me

[grizzled tiger]

i dont even think the gunfires are visible from the perspective of the shot anyway

believe me this was the coolest screenshot i couldve gotten in the area

[silent mirage]

Look (your pronouns of choice), I just thought it'd look cooler if there's some gunfire in the background

[silent mirage]

Tbh the skull pedestal should also be in the screen considering the glow's center is also in the shot

[opal hazel]

a stupid edit I did of hexa's art

-# here's the star ig

[silent mirage]

the star isn't uh, symmetrical

plus ingame its brighter

[opal hazel]

That was the intention since the one in game isn't symmetrical, though yeah tbh it could've been a bit brighter, It was just supposed to be s silly edit/pitch thing

[safe sapphire]

The latest version of them do look at rank and suit.

[silent mirage]

Looks like I have to call upon the time machine

[safe sapphire]

I can make the change myself tonight or tommorow if it is being troublesome for you

[blissful finch]

OLD
flash is blue not yellow in that

[opal hazel]

(yes I know but unless the flash changed the point stands I just gogle imaged and picked the one with the biggest blue flash i'm lazy dfhgsdf)

[river fjord]

is there art for 7-3 X

if so can i see

[river fjord]

niceee

[karmic bough]

whar

[safe sapphire]

Apologies. It appears I forgot to push the updated tribe and instead submitted an experimental one. Will rectify tonight.

[silent mirage]

im kinda lazy now so ok man

ill just reformat it then

🙂

windows if it was good

or somewhat decent

[worn kindle]

idea for obelisk exo: when a hand is played that isnt most played, joker gains like ^0.1/^0.05 or sumn similar based on how many more hands played the most played hand has, most played hand subtracts like ^0.5 or something

[safe sapphire]

Question, is there a way to condense the info queue? For the riff raff exotic, it would be really funny if it had the info queue of every vanilla Joker, but I also don't want to to completely flood the screen

[silent mirage]

What do you have in mind

Iirc the info queue is also recursive

So the performance implications are not gonna be funny

Your best bet is, well, write your own info queue

[frail totem]

considering the amount of common jokers i think you have to pick one
either flood the screen or dont info queue them all

[silent mirage]

There's probably 61 vanilla common jokers I think

The problem is info queue are recursive

[silent mirage]

also if its gonna create all (vanilla) common jokers at once then uh, fuck people with low end device ig

[thin heron]

doesnt it just have the effect of every common joker instead of creating anything

[silent mirage]

nightmare to code

and maintain

[opal hazel]

here's what that looks like written out (also this excludes any downsides since that's what the joker says)

+29-62 Mult (varies due to misprint)
+3 Mult per suited card in hand (or +12 if it's a wild card)
Various amount of +chips/mult when playing any hand other than high card, secret hands or modded hands (excluding ascended hands) (i'm not writing all those out)
-# (alternitively it could just be +410 chips and +52 Mult if hand is not a high card)*
+20 mult if hand has 3 or less cards
go up to $-20 in debt
+30 chips per discard
+[2 * lowest rank held in hand] Mult
+15 mult if discards = 0
scored 8s have 1/4 chance to make tarots
1 free reroll in shop
+30 chips, +5 mult and 1/2 chance for +$1 on scored face cards
+3 mult per joker
$2 per unused discard
+31 chips when scored rank is odd, +4 mult if even
+20chips & +4mult on aces
+[number of times hand played this run + number of tarots used this run] Mult
Adds +1 Mult when Playing a hand + 1 Mult if not containing a face card
+$3 sell value/round
+[all joker's sell value] Mult
adds +15 chips if hand contains a straight, +4 if it has 4 cards
+[100 + (Cards in deck*2)] chips
All cards score regardless of hand
+$5 if discard contains 3+ Face cards or when [random rank] is discard
Creates a tarot if straight contains Ace & Straight
+$4 if hand is a [random hand]
X3 Mult (after all other effects)
Adds 3 Mult when booster skipped
Create 2 common jokers when blind is selected?
1st scored face card gives X2 Mult
1 in 2 chance of +$1 per face card held in hand, guaranteed +13 mult if card is a queen
1 in 2 chance of tarot being made when pack opened
+1 Hand size/discards
$4 per round
+10 Chips & +4 Mult when 10 or 4 is scored
+$4 when gold card is scored
Retrigger 1st played card 2 times

[thin heron]

yeah

[celest wraith]

idk if riff raff is really powerful or really weak

[opal hazel]

It's not powerful in the sense of giving you a huge amount of score (though all the chips and mult do already add up to a practically a free ante 8 win already), but it is really really good at doing a bit for everything else, having like 10 different options for money generation, extra hand size/discards, loads of tarot creating abilities, spawning lots of jokers (including goodd cryptid commons like pity prize and of course being hanging chad. I don't think it does one individual thing as good as any one exotic, but the sheer variety means it's gotta be somewhat viable

[worn kindle]

why isnt demi implemented yet? its listed as all done.

[tribal moth]

I'm sorry if this was asked before, what's the status on the Ascensio server?

[safe sapphire]

If someone submitted the code for Demicolon, I havent seen it.

[safe sapphire]

Fair question. Wanted to relase it in tandem with the first ascensio relase (refer to that announcment I made a bit ago). Given the distance between then and now, it might be better to open it up sooner. The main issue I have is I dont want to spend my time running and maintining a discord server. This fourum post has been working well enough so far, so I dont see the need as too pressing at the moment.

[tribal moth]

That's a fair point

I would offer to assist with moderation and administration but my track record with moderation has been, uh, abysmal, to say the least

I think I recall someone already setting up channels, etc. for the potential server so I don't think administration really needs much assistance there

[safe sapphire]

Thanks for your offer. Like you said, the server already exists thanks to the work of hssr, its just not open to the public. Moderation is the big hurdle so I would need to find trust worthy people who could keep it clean and have enough time on their hands to do so.

[safe sapphire]

Fixed tribe

Also for riff raff, I think the best approach to know why effects are happening might be to display the name of the Joker who effects are happening at that moment. It might take a while to process hands though.

[silent mirage]

Riff Raff Ascended should just create a random negative common joker then X4 all of it's values

[void tapir]

i still really like riffraff’s initial effect (:

[safe sapphire]

I think it mimicing all commons is a more fun effect than just creating x4 commons

I think we will just increase its stats if it ends up being too underwhelming

Also, PLEASE put your name as the coder or artist if you claim wither of those fields so I know who I need to follow up with if it takes longer than expected.

Can the people who claimed the code for Riff Raff, Yorick, Astronomer, Satellite, Bloodstone, Certificate, Photograph, Shortcut, and Kaleidoscope let me know who they are and let me know? Will mark them as unclaimed if I dont get an answer by the end of the week.

Also, @nocturne ridge , greatly apperciate what you have provided code wise thus far, but can I ask you to please limit yourself to only claim one card to code at a time?

[opal hazel]

blehge

[celest wraith]

its just 61 jokers compiled into a single one
if demicoloned...the possibilities are endless

[grizzled tiger]

demicolon riff-raff X, your computer explodes

[safe sapphire]

Buffed DNA's ascension to not destroy duplicate cards held in hand. There was an issue detecting edition, so what I decided to do until I can get a fix for it is set the edition of cards to the edition of the selected card's to that cards edition which have the same suit, rank, enhancment, and seal as that card. Its not the best fix, but it is better than being stuck with non editioned cards in my eye.

Also made it juice up like normal dna

[hollow nymph]

why this is not a straight flush?

Flush did work properly but not for Straight

it did nothing right now

[safe sapphire]

I assume its with entropy doing something? On the latest cryptid it seems to be working fine.

[safe sapphire]

I think I need to know what that Joker on the left does to better answer that question

[safe sapphire]

Also, what hand you played would help

[silent mirage]

tiny suggestion: add a cap to card creation jokers

(also do you... edit code directly in github?)

https://github.com/MarioFan597/Ascensio/pull/18
another code formatting pr

might as well implement sock and buskin ascended myself

@fervent sierra hello can i implement my own sock and buskin

[fervent sierra]

go ahead

[silent mirage]

I'll send you a picture when I'm home

Current having a j*b

I don't get paid so idk if it counts

[nocturne ridge]

All me, except Satellite and Photograph I think.

Also no.

[silent mirage]

sample

no the effect is rather rudimentary and not finished yet

🙂

[blissful finch]

change it to "face cards held in hand" and not "each face cards"

[safe sapphire]

Sorry, you are saying you won't just claim one at a time? If that is the case, can you at least give me ETAs when they might be done?

[safe sapphire]

Very neat!

Sorry for the ping. Any update on the campfire art?

[silent mirage]

How do I retrigger held in hand cards 😔

[frail totem]

i think you retrigger them but held in hand

check vanillaremade mime

[river fjord]

also we still kinda need a new name for astronomer so i propose "Vir Siderum" (man of the stars)

[silent mirage]

What about corpus caeleste

[silent mirage]

Also I can't make it give X2 chips every time it trigger

So do I... Just give up and calculate 2^rep instead and return that as Xmult

[frail totem]

why not

[silent mirage]

Idk, I only see it get X2 once

Maybe skip anim or something

I'll debug it deeper tomorrow

[river fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-g-gif-6095767182148666383

g

[safe sapphire]

There may just be a visual glitch. You may have to manually add up the values to see if its working.

[silent mirage]

(I mean retriggering face cards held in hand man)

[safe sapphire]

Gotcha

Let me know if you ever want a second pair of eyes on it

[silent mirage]

Does repetition and Xmult effect works together when retuned

Like

return {
  repetition = 5,
  Xmult = 3,
}

[safe sapphire]

I think you are going about this the wrong way. Like Iterum, you need to have two return statements for this part of the effect. One for context.individual and one for context.repetition. Definitely recomend looking at Iterum's code.

[frail totem]

^

repetition and individual effects are different

u cant just return them both at once

[safe sapphire]

Speaking of Iterum, I think we need to lower the amount of repetitions so it is comparable power wise.

[silent mirage]

Yeah I'm doing that rn

I just wonder if I can return it for the intended effect

Guess not

[silent mirage]

Nerfing it down to hm

Does X1.5 sounds good

[safe sapphire]

Sure. We can always adjust it later

I'm gonna do the code for bootstraps. More than happy to also make the art for it, but if someone else wants to, let me know.

[frail totem]

nerf it to sqrt 3

[silent mirage]

Sqrt 3 is ~1.7 iirc

[silent mirage]

ExplodoNum is going to be crazy

[frail totem]

this has no purpose and has no purpose

[silent mirage]

Someday talisman will support up to {10, 9e15, 1, 3}

Also we should be capping

[safe sapphire]

Agree. All retrigger and card creation effects should have at most a 40 cap, like iterum

Will try to update DNA soon with this

[silent mirage]

Retrigger should have a cap of life 40~200 or something, depending on gameset, card creation should be capped at around 30 or something

[safe sapphire]

40 is the max set for iterum even on madness. I don't think we should go above that to avoid mass calulations

[silent mirage]

Oh well, guess it's bankruptcy for me the guy who likes seeing big numbers go big

[tribal moth]

I still miss slownum, even if it was never started 💔

[silent mirage]

Sometimes I still wonder where is @violet drift

[tribal moth]

On hiatus, life stuff happened

[silent mirage]

I hope he is in a better place now

😞😞😞😞

[safe sapphire]

No promises, but perhaps we can have a config to allow that.

[silent mirage]

Balatro benchmarking mods

[silent mirage]

By the way do you directly edit code on GitHub

Or do you use gpg

[safe sapphire]

I use Sublime Text and upload it using the web editor

[silent mirage]

Just checked,
Proprietary Software. 😔

Zed is also a good Sublime alternative. If you are fine with a bit of rough edges and can ignore the AI stuffs you should be good

[safe sapphire]

Gotcha

[silent mirage]

Are you on windows though, if so you would have to be using an unofficial build, as they are not supporting windows officially yet

I use that unofficial build and it's pretty decent

[safe sapphire]

On windows

[silent mirage]

My main editor is neovim unfortunately

It's configured using Lua which everybody here knows

Ectoentropic Jokers

[wooden mulch]

emacs also🔥

[nocturne ridge]

Yes, no.

[safe sapphire]

This is not how claiming is supposed to work. Thankfully, there is still a plethora of Jokers where this is a non-issue at the moment, but as soon as we get down to the lower limits of Jokers needing code I am enforcing the one at a time rule.

[silent mirage]

calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if
            context.repetition
            and context.cardarea == G.play
            and (context.other_card:is_face() or (#context.card_effects > 1 and context.other_card:is_face()))
        then
            return {
                repetitions = card.ability.extra.rep,
            }
        end
    end,

[silent mirage]

@safe sapphire hmm

borrowing vanilla remade code and it still doesnt work

hm

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i cant make it retrigger held in hand card what the hell?

[safe sapphire]

Added Bootstrap's Ascension: Inflatio to the GitHub! Changed it to X1 to try and match Duplicare. Let me know what you think

[silent mirage]

hmmm taurus gives flat mult right

[safe sapphire]

Taurus gives ^ chips

[silent mirage]

oh

[safe sapphire]

I don't think you need to do that. I think scored cards are all that is required.

[silent mirage]

also the xchip/xmult doesn't trigger too bro

[safe sapphire]

Can you send a demonstration and/or what you have so far?

[silent mirage]

basically it retrigger played face cards 5 times

that's it

    calculate = function(_, card, context)
        if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play and context.other_card:is_face() then
            print("Score")

            for _, scored_card in pairs(context.scoring_hand) do
                if scored_card == context.other_card then
                    print("XC")

                    return {
                        xchip = card.ability.extra.xchip,
                    }
                end
            end

            if not context.end_of_round and not context.other_card.debuffed then
                return {
                    xmult = card.ability.extra.xmult,
                }
            end
        end

        if context.repetition and context.cardarea == G.play then
            if context.other_card:is_face() then
                return {
                    message = localize("k_again_ex"),
                    repetitions = card.ability.extra.rep,
                }
            end
        end
    end,
-- the prints are for debugging

[safe sapphire]

Taking a brief look, if I had to guess, it might involve the if scored_card == context.other_card then line. I think the issue is that its not triggering because the statement always returns false?

[silent mirage]

debugging showed that it does get true

xc gets printed