#Entropy - A Very Chaotic Balatro Mod

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primal pulsar
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debug define?

bronze patio
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like theres a debug pointer menu with no restrictions

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if you press control + space

primal pulsar
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its not on the release version, right?

bronze patio
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it is cause i forgot to change it

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πŸ’€

slender anvil
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real

primal pulsar
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huh

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i'm eithr stupid or it doesn't work for me

slender anvil
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it works but you have to press ctrl+space on rubys keyboard specifically

primal pulsar
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god

bronze patio
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true

sinful cloak
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btw can someone go into pointer.lua and remove the debug mode checks? its put on pointerlib now

slender anvil
bronze patio
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i just checked on my own keyboard and it did what cass said so clearly its true that it must be my keyboard specifically

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ill mess with pointer in a little bit i gotta go to the store soon though

iron viper
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draC pihsrebmeM
-# Legendary?

X2 Mult for every Joker Slot you have.
When defeating a Boss Blind with no empty Joker Slots, gain +1 Joker Slot.

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just throwing my hat into the ring

slender anvil
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it doesnt quite follow the spirit of member card

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and it will likely just be entropy members

torn wave
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powmult per member in the Entropy thread

slender anvil
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tru

slender anvil
sinful cloak
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+2 glop per member in entropy thread

slender anvil
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real

primal pulsar
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also no jokr slots

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keep it in spirit of the almighty cryptidcord

tawny lotus
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Yes :chuzz_troll:

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This is why it's not my fav

kindred sphinx
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am i missing something?

young rock
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Get the lateset cryptid and talisman version

kindred sphinx
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alright

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I did, still showed the same error

young rock
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The latest release, or the latest dev version?

kindred sphinx
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those are different?

young rock
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Yes. The latest dev version has big num compatibility incorporated where as the latest release currently doesn't.

kindred sphinx
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i see

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any ideas where i can find the former?

young rock
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Click the green code button, then local, then download zip on the github.

kindred sphinx
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huh, there's no local button

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oh wait, it finally worked

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thanks and sorry for the bother

fresh magnet
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You were so powerful you crashed my game

somber turtle
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i didnt know Ace Aequilibrium could create entropic jokers

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pretty sure that shouldnt happen .,.

sinful cloak
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yeah

slender anvil
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something something blacklist compat

sinful cloak
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blacklistlib before the next release

plush apex
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Idk what causes this or if it is even entropy at all but all meme packs are mr bones and all exotic packs are all regular jimbos

fresh magnet
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Something weird just happened when I used Burnt M and Rigged Boredom. It counted the cards and then applied Solar AFTER scoring, and then the event cue just kept incrementing forever.

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Nvm it's Burnt M in general

fresh magnet
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Notice anything wrong here?

slender anvil
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can i redefine a Queen of Diamonds into a 2 of Hearts and then have the card count as both suits and ranks?

fresh magnet
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Another thing I noticed is that Consumable blinds cannot be taken/used from boosters

fresh magnet
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I think Entropy is the only mod that manages to make Newcalc lag a little bit.
It might just be event cues or late endless fuckery, but the ascension calculations cause a few hiccups before and after playing a hand

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It’s negligible though

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Its only when playing the hand. Otherwise itself still fine

sinful cloak
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double scale:

bronze patio
slender anvil
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i can take it

sinful cloak
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this must be the part where he kills you

bronze patio
sinful cloak
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shinyer tags

slender anvil
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glossy tags

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filigree tags

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pristine tags

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gilded tags

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ornate tags

bronze patio
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ascendant tags

slender anvil
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true

sinful cloak
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holy shit ascendant reference

plush apex
bronze patio
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they scale as a degree 2 polynomial btw

graceful bolt
gleaming thistle
bronze patio
restive dove
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goog lorg the canvas is plentiful

slender anvil
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nefarious

scenic sluice
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(also happens with oil lamp)

bronze patio
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im losing my goddamn mind trying to fix this but it MIGHT be fixed

scenic sluice
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πŸ™ƒ

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wait

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HACKY FIX FTW!

bronze patio
slender anvil
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Transcendant hands tomorrow

fresh magnet
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Love the new stuff, but I there's still the burnt M softlock

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Also, how will you combat people selling their jokers to negate the effects of Beyond?

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Update Steamodded?

bronze patio
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also try updating entropy

fresh magnet
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Ooooh

bronze patio
fresh magnet
bronze patio
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this shouldve been fixed cause this was a bug that i encountered and then fixed

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uhhh try updating again

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see if it occurs still

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for me i see this

fresh magnet
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No wait We're Good now. My downloads were ordered incorrectly lmao

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Also thoughts on the Entropic Buffoon Pack?

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You can thank Mariofan for that!

bronze patio
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its nice

fresh magnet
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I meant to ask. Since it's odds of appearing are 0.01%, Can you put those odds into perspective?

bronze patio
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on average you will need to visit 10000 shops before you see one of these

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you are only 4x more likely to find 2 of these in a row than you are to win the lottery in my country

fresh magnet
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WOW

wet tusk
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damnn

fresh magnet
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Maybe it should be 0.05?

Or maybe I should make a Tag that increases the odds of it appearing by 0.01?
If so, what would such a tag be called?

bronze patio
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exousia should prob have a cap on the amount of tags it can create right

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0.1% might be better it depends how op this mod wants to be

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since getting basically any entropic is a guaranteed win unless youre dumb

fresh magnet
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In that case, maybe I should stick to that Value. Exotic Boosters are 0.1

bronze patio
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300 dollars fee makes it less op since yknow thats hard to get without being broken still but its just something to keep in mind

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πŸ’€

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infinite ascended tags

fresh magnet
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The Fee and rarity also makes sense since you are essentially getting an Entropic Joker without the need to banish any Jokers

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Joke Idea:

The Big Red Button.

Creates The Zenith Joker. Removes Save game.

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Oh and uhhhh.... Burnt M Still causes a softlock

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Let me whip up an example

iron viper
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i know its like. a mod meant to be broken

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but i think itd be good as a seperate setting for the mod

bronze patio
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i just limited it like how energia is limited

iron viper
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fair

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but i still think having an entropy rarity immunable toggle would be neat

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especially since sometimes it breaks with specific entropy card combinations πŸ’”

karmic vale
fresh magnet
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I wish I knew

simple terrace
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I need to play thjs

bronze patio
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shiny saint tag

fresh magnet
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It's already been fixed, but Entropy was briefly causing a bug where ONLY Regular Buffoon Packs would appear in the shop.

bronze patio
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it was for a really dumb reason too

fresh magnet
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Is it ok to ask why/how?

bronze patio
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some packs accidentally had a negative weight

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which messes with balatro for some reason

fresh magnet
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Weird af

sinful cloak
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same w/ 0

bronze patio
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0 works

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well

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idk

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since im using in_pool now

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but idk if i had issues with 0 or not

lime granite
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I have an issue, the game crash when launch

slender anvil
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just press ctrl+c on while on this grayscreen

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and paste it here

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this seems like a lot of mods that could have compat conflicts

sinful cloak
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its just outdated cryptid

slender anvil
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oh shit yeah its 0.5.5a

lime granite
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nope

slender anvil
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not even 0.5.5b, and should use the dev version

lime granite
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i updated

slender anvil
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Blueprint

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im pretty sure Blueprint has a lot of conflicts

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and im not sure if thats still current but probably should use Talisman Experimental branch

lime granite
sinful cloak
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talisman is nested too (seemingly)

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and cryptid is 0.5.5c

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or 0.5.5d on demicolon branch

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it appears twice

slender anvil
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this mod setup is quite a mess

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im only familiar with some issues

sinful cloak
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also deck creator is outdated as hell

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from last i checked

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unless its a different one

lime granite
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big_num_blacklist

sinful cloak
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is a thing added in recent cryptid

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0.5.5c

lime granite
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which demicolon?

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game crash every time when I view Entropy Jokers

scenic sluice
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this page should. probably be reordered lol

slender anvil
slender anvil
lime granite
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what is xA ascension power do?

slender anvil
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Ascended Hands scale faster

lime granite
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it's just another way to increase exponentially

slender anvil
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sort of

fresh magnet
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Quickload causes a Shop Banner to cover up the score for the rest of the run

primal pulsar
slender anvil
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i know EXACTLY what that thing does as i sprited and designed it

bronze patio
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you gotta

slender anvil
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no

lime granite
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make ascension multi past 1.8e308 possible

slender anvil
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we're working on it, trust

bronze patio
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it should be possible and idk why it isnt

lime granite
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most jokers from Entropy mod crash the game when hovering @bronze patio

bronze patio
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i think this is a compat issue but idk with which mod i can prob fix it anyway

sinful cloak
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send the crash

bronze patio
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im pretty sure i know why it happens but i dont know why some other mods are causing it to go wrong there

lime granite
bronze patio
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yea same as someone else had

lime granite
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Entropic and Legendary? Jokers just crash the game

bronze patio
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im trying to move over to using a smods gradient for the rarity badge of the jokers instead of a weird hack but im having the same problem i originally had where it only updates the color when i stop hovering and rehover

lime granite
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from stable version

bronze patio
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try updating see if that fixes it or not

graceful bolt
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omg, game didn't crash!!!

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yeeeee

fresh magnet
graceful bolt
bronze patio
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i forgot to return true to end an event

primal pulsar
fresh magnet
lime granite
bronze patio
fresh magnet
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I'm using latest unless You're planning to add that. It sure looks promising

bronze patio
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oops its not commited yet

lime granite
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v0.3b?

tiny sand
bronze patio
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probably i dont remember tbh

tiny sand
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i approve glumbsup

tiny sand
# bronze patio

maybe change the money gained to be based on the ratio of jokers to joker slots? (encouraging the player to prioritise not having empty joker slots)

bronze patio
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might be better

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rn you gain money based on the formula (40 / sqrt(Joker Slots))

tiny sand
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huh

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also how do you plan on implementing buying and selling joker slots

bronze patio
tiny sand
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oh

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that makes a lot of sense

fresh magnet
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So uhhhh.... I've seen this twice today

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All my luck probably went into making that appear though :/

tiny sand
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i've had to say this SO many times

fresh magnet
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Sorry about being the 100001st person

tiny sand
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anyway

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@bronze patio have you made any entropic variants of exotic jokers that give exponential mult

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stuff like stella mortis, facile, exponentia etc.

bronze patio
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stella mortis has plans but rn no

tiny sand
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ah

bronze patio
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rn theres
gemini -> epitachyno
helios (this was based on universum but i have better plans for that now)
redeo -> xekanos
crustulum -> ieros
trecedim -> dekatria
scalae -> anaptyxi
parakmi (this ones unique)
energia -> exousia
tenebris -> akyros

tawny lotus
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This is so funny

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Why? It's because the base is tetrated by 3

tawny lotus
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And there's a free canvas instead of brainstorm

bronze patio
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entropic yeah

primal pulsar
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not free canvas

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it's 13 dollars

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pay up

tawny lotus
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After entroopic

tawny lotus
slender anvil
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entropic 2

bronze patio
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after entropic is copying tag

slender anvil
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no its entropic 2

primal pulsar
bronze patio
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its 18 anyway

tiny sand
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what does dekatria do?

slender anvil
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hyper mult

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{M}ult

tiny sand
bronze patio
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the 8 doubles each time also

tiny sand
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huh

bronze patio
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this works the same as pairamount btw where 4oak is 12 pairs

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well not quite

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but by that i mean it counts all the combinations

slender anvil
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so its 2x(4c2)?

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is 8oak 56 pairs?

bronze patio
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flush 8 is 28 apparantly

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i guess order doesnt matter

slender anvil
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not 12

bronze patio
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yea

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i miscounted

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but didnt correct myself cause im never wrong

slender anvil
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yea so it's just the choose function

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so for 8 pairs it's +13, 16 pairs X13, 32 pairs ^13?

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is this correct?

bronze patio
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yeah and then theres 4 left over

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wait no

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well its correct still

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but i misread what you meant

fresh magnet
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What purpose do Flesh Cards serve? Deck Fixing while scoring?

They’re a bit like Yucky Cards in a way

primal pulsar
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but yeah theyre deckfixing thingamabobs

gleaming thistle
primal pulsar
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also flesh cards are just better πŸ”₯

bronze patio
karmic vale
willow glade
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too easy smh

slender anvil
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but theres more to it

bronze patio
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just get all entropics and exotics and e3e308 dollars and push -f on the first round

sinful cloak
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fr

bronze patio
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you could do this with redefined deck btw

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you need run crustulum wario and parakmi

willow glade
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there should be hashtags in the score

slender anvil
slender anvil
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thats on highet antes

sinful cloak
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semicolon/run?

bronze patio
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then you need to reroll until you naturally get epics which is possible and you need ngpc and commit from it

slender anvil
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okay ruby

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but

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no Zenith

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can you still do it?

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capped at Entropic jokers

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how do you deal with it now

bronze patio
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anaptyxi glitched kciroy epitachyno and ieros

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or no glitched kciroy and just get run

slender anvil
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truly

bronze patio
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you just need some way to scale without requiring scoring

willow glade
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nonsensical words

slender anvil
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some of these words are in the bible tho

willow glade
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yeah "and"

slender anvil
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new gameshow
"All of these words are in the bible"
contestants are presented with a bunch of fucked up sentences and they have to figure out which one of them contains a word which is not in the bible

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tv should hire me fr

tiny sand
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when extra xchips/xmult gets fixed you should do something with that

willow glade
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true

tiny sand
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(it's broken rn, i tried using it myself earlier)

gleaming thistle
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I disagree.

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Oh wow it REALLY IS persistent

bronze patio
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a mod could get around it with shenanigans but nothing rn should be able to assuming ideal implementation

slender anvil
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🌞

karmic vale
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🌞

slender anvil
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now i gotta make a 4th eventually

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will prolly be Transcendant hands whenever theyre added

torn wave
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w h a t

slender anvil
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?

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do you not know that word or what

gleaming thistle
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trying to select a negative card with syphon crashes the game

bronze patio
torn wave
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

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IS THAT A HIGH CARD BUT EVERY CARD IS A FUCKING JOKER

bronze patio
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you gain bonuses from playing hand that has 5 of the same type ie 5 joker playing cards or 2+ of the exact same card ie 2 ice cream playing cards

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ie if your hand has a second hand where card sets are suits and card keys are ranks

tiny sand
main shuttle
# bronze patio

jokers as playing cards? whats next? playing cards as jokers?

bronze patio
tiny sand
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jokers as jokers?

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oh nvm

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i thought that was shoot the moon hyperrealisticskullemoji

primal pulsar
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LOL

gleaming thistle
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either way how's the run looking

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wait so whats the point of this

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triples the chips then debuffs them???

bronze patio
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chip increase remains after they become undebuffed

gleaming thistle
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but

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if they get debuffed they cant be scored at all

bronze patio
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well yeah they become undebuffed after the end of round

main shuttle
slender anvil
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now you can play a Transcendant Flush Five with your Flush Five

gleaming thistle
slender anvil
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me on my way to play the Transcendant None :clueless:

bronze patio
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just play 0 of a kind where all the cards are None Pack

slender anvil
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tru

tawny lotus
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Transcendent hands are real

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make it transgend-

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I Like how it's cyan
Or light blue

tawny lotus
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More fluff right?

bronze patio
gleaming thistle
tawny lotus
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This is peak

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What that bigger guy do

gleaming thistle
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(past ante 8)

tawny lotus
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Oh

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Does it give dx blinds or whatever

gleaming thistle
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1 bigger blind, 1 boss blind and 1 DX boss blind every ante

tawny lotus
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m

tawny lotus
gentle bluff
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Transcended??

slender anvil
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Transcendant

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poker hands which transcend what is a suit or a rank

tawny lotus
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wait what version of cryptid i need aagain

simple terrace
zenith cape
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this happens after rerolling shops

simple terrace
sinful cloak
fresh magnet
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Crash when hovering over a Joker. Got everything updated too. Am I missing something?

fresh magnet
lime granite
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I got triple E with Solar setup

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$e10033

rapid narwhal
fresh magnet
sinful cloak
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chaos moment

slender anvil
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holdon

tawny lotus
sinful cloak
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alway demicolon

tawny lotus
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o

fresh magnet
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The virgin Polterworx vs The Chad Entropy

slender anvil
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ugh i missed a detail and now i gotta redo all the effects

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now it should look fine

fresh magnet
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Reminds of those deep fried memes from years ago

slender anvil
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you can see me progressively putting slightly more effort with each one

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sad

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life used to be simple

tawny lotus
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I'm gonna be honest this is better than polterworx

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all it misses is tetr-

slender anvil
tawny lotus
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and mult

slender anvil
tawny lotus
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What

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Where

slender anvil
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a couple jokers have it

tawny lotus
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I still didn't try it out

slender anvil
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🀯

tawny lotus
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Due to me not knowing what version it needs

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And being lazy to do so

slender anvil
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demicolon branch

tawny lotus
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Ok then

slender anvil
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newest build, not release

tawny lotus
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All I need is wait to be able to use my pc and enjoy

tawny lotus
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Right..?

slender anvil
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yup

mint maple
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yo can we get a pinned release or uhhh

slender anvil
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the git repo is pinned

mint maple
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oh.

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oopsies

slender anvil
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this blind isnt supposed to spawn on A8 @bronze patio ??

bronze patio
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thats weird cause the min and max is set to 32

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maybe showdown overrides that?

slender anvil
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might have to be hardcoded?

bronze patio
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i mean it doesnt even really need to be classified as a showdown

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so i can prob just remove that and see if it fixes

slender anvil
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doesnt matter cuz the gamba tag put me in this situation

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but like, in the future

tardy river
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https://youtu.be/zHPtRDfxspU The Entropic Joker theme is now on yt!

Download Entropy here: https://github.com/lord-ruby/Entropy

Entropy is an add-on for the Cryptid mod, balanced around the Madness gameset and adding heaps of new overpowered content. These additions include Entropic Jokers, a new rarity above Exotic, with game-winning effects. This is the cover of the Balatro theme I created that plays when you...

β–Ά Play video
slender anvil
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this is truly an entropic humor buddy moment

gentle bluff
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Otherwise, excellent song

tardy river
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the humble polyrhythm:

slender anvil
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the percussion seems on-beat to me

tardy river
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rhythm not meter sorry

slender anvil
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theres just extra flourishes

tardy river
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drums are in 4/4 the rest of the song is in 7/4

slender anvil
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ye

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does 3/4 + 7/4 work for the other one?

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like 4 is an obvious anchor, and to feel in danger you gotra get rid of the anchor

gentle bluff
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I'll take a listen again, it's not even the polyrhythm thing idk

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Maybe I'm missing smth

slender anvil
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i listened carefully and i'm 100% sure the rhythms align and everything is on beat

sinful cloak
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i'm music student

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it's somehow both

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same tempo

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same starting beat and stuff

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but its like

tardy river
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yeah its a 4/4 drum pattern that i stretched to fit

sinful cloak
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yknow those "two different songs have the same bpm" memes

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it's like that

sinful cloak
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i could prob conjure a better fitting one i think

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do you have a version without the drums?

primal pulsar
tardy river
primal pulsar
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thank you noneva

sinful cloak
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why not?

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discongruent is the word i think i was looking for but google says it doesnt exist

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but i know for a fact it does

tardy river
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its supposed to be weird and chaotic

sinful cloak
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no i'm not, different words

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dis- and in- are different prefixes

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i also took english class

tardy river
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dis means not
in means not

sinful cloak
tardy river
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so incongruent

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congruent is an adjective not a verb

tardy river
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i also took english class you fool

sinful cloak
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so are these (ignore appear)

slender anvil
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i never took english i just was born like that

tardy river
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girl if you look up discongruent it corrects you to incongruent because thats the correct word

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grammar aside no im not making any changes to the song at this juncture and if i were to i would do it myself

tawny lotus
bronze patio
gleaming thistle
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why does.

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why does solar tag go "nope"

bronze patio
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idk

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works fine for me

gleaming thistle
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wait

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does the "everything has editions" voucher fuck up those tags

slender anvil
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yes

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i was about to ask

gleaming thistle
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oh my god

slender anvil
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yes, Curate overrides Edition Tags

bronze patio
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it should do that for vanilla tags too iirc but i think it wont do that for ascended edition tags

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nvm the ascended tags apply but they just get set back to the edition deck cards again

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i should probably fix this or make them say nope atleast

tawny lotus
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wait is this too long

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resending...

bronze patio
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?

tawny lotus
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game crash

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wait

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im trying to screenshot it but

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i have to copy paste huh

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Syntax error: card.lua:5591: 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 845) near '<eof>'


Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0423c-STEAMODDED
LΓ–VE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.7.1
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback
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(3)  C function 'function: 0x2d0dbbf8'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 888
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LΓ–VE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
 c = table: 0x2d0df0b0  {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x2d0df100, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
 openedconsole = boolean: false
 confok = boolean: true
 conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LΓ–VE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
 result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LΓ–VE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
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bronze patio
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this seems like its probably not my fault but idk

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which mods do you have

tawny lotus
slender anvil
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bunco.....

bronze patio
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try it with just entropy talisman and cryptid

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its prob a mod incompatinility and/or not entropy's fault but i wanna make sure

tawny lotus
#

ok then

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and then just slowly add mods right?

bronze patio
#

yes

tawny lotus
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the only reason why i added it because cool blinds

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but wom wom it's gone now

bronze patio
#

i think that might be a broken bunco version since theres a fork somewhere out there but i dont have a link

slender anvil
bronze patio
#

endless entropy will be the coolest blind that exists anyway

slender anvil
#

true

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we already have a bunch of cool blinds

#

and on top of that hyperblinds tomorrow so youll have plenty of blinds

tawny lotus
#

i did not know my cool blind could be a blind token

bronze patio
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its automatic

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thats why they just use the blind sprite instead of being custom

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since i wanted it to have crossmod support

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it looks relatively okay anyway so i think its fine

slender anvil
#

i'd add some separation between item description and blind description

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cuz it looks kinda iffy sometimes

bronze patio
#

yeah i wanna fix up the tooltip but that can be done automatically too anyway

slender anvil
#

maybe make the 1st like slightly gray or sth

bronze patio
#

smods has support for multiple boxes in tooltips now anyway which is like the 1 use this mod has for that feature

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let me actually showcase what i mean

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but ill need to update smods

#

this seems like not whats meant to happen

slender anvil
#

o

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thats nice

bronze patio
#

ideally it would be below the name thoughh

tawny lotus
#

sorry but i have to do it...

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WHEN DID MY DECK GET THAT THIN

slender anvil
#

mkill missue

tawny lotus
#

AHAHAHAHA

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WHAT

slender anvil
#

shouldve bignumed

tawny lotus
fresh magnet
#

Two things I wanted to mention. Ascended Edition tags should take effect like β€œAll jokers in next shop are [edition]” that way the player can still encounter other editions.

The other thing is, Some Blinds that are disabled can still appear in shops

bronze patio
#

it makes boosters and vouchers editioned too

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blinds thing i can prob fix

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i need to do a lot of fixes for that anyway since endless entropy should prob not be able to show up as a token or atleast theres some technical stuff that i wanna have not show up

fresh magnet
#

Akyros still causes a crash when hovered over. Is it dependant on the branch of Cryptid? I overheard the Demicolon Branch is reccomended.

bronze patio
#

i mean maybe, but whats the crash message

#

oh oops

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it crashes for me too

fresh magnet
#

I'm guessing it has something to do with the unique function of Akyros.

bronze patio
#

nah i just made a simple mistake

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try updating

fresh magnet
#

All fixed! Thanks ❀️

bronze patio
#

also yeah demicolon branch should be better but i dont think its required

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it always helps to get some more testing with that though in entropy and in cryptid

#

all of entropy should be compatible rn

#

demicolon2 specifically

fresh magnet
#

So I don't think this crash is related to Entropy, but just in case.

Crashed when I opened a booster. I got a log, but when it appeared in game, it was almost completely blank with only half of the first line printing.

fresh magnet
#

Might have something to do with the Demicolon Branch. Seems alright for now though

fresh magnet
#

Since the Tesseract is apparently a troll joker (At least from what you told me), Would it make sense for it to possibly appear in meme packs?

fresh magnet
#

Actually yeah it's Entropy related. Something to do with Bonus cards.

gleaming thistle
#

how am I meant to get through this

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by the way starting a new run after this crashes the game

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is the only solution a reroll / disabling it

slender anvil
#

its meant to spawn on ante 32 only

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and the only solution is to be fucking busted since it wont be rerollable or debuffable

gleaming thistle
slender anvil
#

not all of them

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you just have to be careful when selecting them

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dont handy shortcut

tawny lotus
#

This entropy boss bro

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The only thing that makes it bad is the select card destroy and turquoise tornado

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I tried it Helios and solar deck

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But no work :(

gleaming thistle
gleaming thistle
slender anvil
#

ah, skill issue then

fresh magnet
#

So I'm the only one experiencing the error related to Bonus cards?

slender anvil
#

wheres the crash log

slender anvil
slender anvil
#

you have 20 mods

tawny lotus
slender anvil
#

yes you can

#

just sort by suit

fresh magnet
#

I disabled them and still the same thing. I guess I can delete some that I'm not using.

gleaming thistle
#

bunco causes some problems

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bunco specially

slender anvil
#

of course it does, it's bunco

tawny lotus
#

I don't have any mod that adds blinds too

tawny lotus
fresh magnet
#

Thankfully I don't have that installed

tawny lotus
#

I deleted it

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The only reason I had it because incredibly cool blinds

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And uhh

gleaming thistle
#

is there any plans to make secret hand stars only appear once you play that secret hand

slender anvil
#

ever heard of the Virgin Bouquet?

umbral rapids
#

I have an idea for a joker.
So basically there’s a thing called tetration in math and it would be really broken in balatro I think (i can send a video where it explains it)

wet tusk
#

we know about tetration and it exists in entropy already!

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Ieros uses tetration iirc

bronze patio
#

dekatria uses all hyperoperations technically

jaunty jay
#

Tetration is pretty common in Cryptid addons. Highest I've seen in a Balatro mod is hexation, in terms of Joker effects. POLTERWORX has a Joker that can take the chip-mult operator itself much higher.

bronze patio
#

dekatria has infinite hyperoperation scaling you just need a better computer

jaunty jay
#

(Stupid Enter and Shift being next to each other)

bronze patio
#

unlike kosmos its also uncapped because idc if your computer kills itself

jaunty jay
#

LMAO

bronze patio
gleaming thistle
#

hey im just saying im just saying hey hey

umbral rapids
#

But maybe it would be cool to make it like evolve from x^y to tetration and so on?

wet tusk
#

that's what dekatria does

umbral rapids
#

πŸ˜­πŸ™

slender anvil
#

from ^ to ^^ to ^^^ to ^^^^ to...

#

indefinitely

slender anvil
umbral rapids
slender anvil
#

hah

umbral rapids
#

Just make an atomic reactor at this point…

bronze patio
#

dekatria goes from
= -> + -> x -> ^ -> ^^ -> ^^^ ...

umbral rapids
#

What’s coming to entropy?

bronze patio
#

next is Endless Entropy

umbral rapids
# bronze patio

The boss blind that comes every 8 ante (I forgot what’s it called)

#

?

bronze patio
#

ee always appears on ante 32

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nowhere else

umbral rapids
#

But on antes 8, 16, 24 and 32 instead of the normal boss blinds appear the finisher blinds or whatever they are called

slender anvil
#

Showdown

tawny lotus
slender anvil
#

but this is a the ultimate showdown

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not just any regular showdown

tawny lotus
#

Endless entropy appears and only appear on 32

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If only it spawned on 128 too...

high thunder
#

like i feel like entropy and Almanac have way different takes on this concept

#

and they wouldn't make much sense mixed

outer latch
#

i am currently playing both and its quite fun

wet tusk
wet tusk
#

it's a very contrasting coat of paint

tawny lotus
high thunder
#

to me if there was going to be a new mod that has crossmod with polterworx

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i think something like morefluff but again would make more sense

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a tame mod, thats now overpowered because of polterworx

gleaming thistle
wet tusk
#

lmao

gleaming thistle
#

why you laugh at me.....

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blows you up with my mind...

wet tusk
#

i wasn't laughing at you!

slender anvil
#

i dont think we'll be adding Polterworx crossmod content anytime soon

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trust me

high thunder
#

at least from what happened with morefluff, it's moreso just
existing mod content becomes in line with polterworx content

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also just to know

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if this got polterworx crosscompat

#

a bunch of things are 100% getting banne dlmfao

wet tusk
#

yeah

gleaming thistle
#

knowing jen yeah

wet tusk
#

knowing jen he'll ban every entropic joker

outer latch
#

lmfao

bronze patio
#

my main statement about this before was idk if i wanna put in the effort just for most of the interesting ideas to get banned anyway

high thunder
#

you (could) actually feel like that h ow it is right now (with no compat) is more fun to play then when the cards are all banned

gleaming thistle
#

but like, it wont change this mod in itself

its just added smoothly to polterworx's gameplay loop

bronze patio
#

literally my number 1 and 2 favourite things in the mod rn would get banned

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because of kosmos

wet tusk
#

yeah

bronze patio
#

and idk if i wanna put in effort just for that to happen

high thunder
#

he justb ans them

slender anvil
#

kosmos is my prettiest baby boy and nothing is allowed to compete with him

bronze patio
#

dekatria stronger

wet tusk
#

kosmos isn't even fun

high thunder
#

since like

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if the entire identity of Entropy is that it's unbalanced

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and that's also the identity of polterworx

bronze patio
#

its just differing ideas of how to go about that

high thunder
#

and jen is going to change anything that is too unbalanced with entropy to fit with his mod

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then whats the point really

outer latch
#

but diffrent kinds of unbalanced

slender anvil
#

Jen claims its unbalanced and yet bans everything he thinks is unbalanced, explain this atheists

gleaming thistle
#

I like that polterworx is getting difficulty/balance settings

kinda holding off on it myself until that is added though

high thunder
#

if polterworx is gonna get compat with entropy

gleaming thistle
#

or at least till 0.1

high thunder
#

i would only be interested if entropy is actually part of the core of the mod

bronze patio
#

idk how much ill say of my true thoughts about polterworx or whatever but its just like it does a lot of things in ways i disagree with

wet tusk
#

yeah

high thunder
#

like Dekatria is actually part of the main progression

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would never happen tho

wet tusk
#

i feel the same way

bronze patio
#

all the interesting stuff is gonna get banned instead

gleaming thistle
#

Oh no, I absolutely agree

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I dont like some of the design decisions either

wet tusk
#

just make a blacklist for all the almanac stuff /j

high thunder
#

yeah uh

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i think my opinions about it are fairly well known at this point

slender anvil
#

if theres gonna be any compat business, it would have to be initiated from Jen's side i imagine

gleaming thistle
#

Changing the convo a bit, is there like, any spritework for entropy needed right now

gleaming thistle
bronze patio
#

not really

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theres some jokers that arent implemented yet but they dont count cause they arent implemented yet

tawny lotus
#

The only reason I played almanac is tetration and shit

slender anvil
#

arent you gonna add a bunch of new jokrts soon tho?

#

like we just discussed a couple that could use sprites

high thunder
#

personally

wet tusk
#

im horrible at spritework 😭

bronze patio
high thunder
#

i feel like polterworx is entirely seperate from cryptid in how it does its unbalance

slender anvil
#

mkay

high thunder
#

entropy feels like an extention to cryptid

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that just adds higher nuimbers

tawny lotus
#

Guys guys should I make an ascension related normal bli- wait that doesn't go right

wet tusk
#

entropy fits more with the design language of cryptid

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polterworx is just a completely different thing

tawny lotus
gleaming thistle
#

I dont forgive jen for banning my baby (oil lamp)

but like, almanac is still a fun mod either way I wont lie

tawny lotus
#

It doesn't change it that much

bronze patio
high thunder
#

polterworx 100% has good things

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it's not for me, but you do you

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but this is why i won't recommend it to people who played cryptid, and want more

bronze patio
#

i dont want to just change up everthing the only change rn actually is to make oil lamp epic which should probably happen in cryptid anyway

gleaming thistle
high thunder
#

^^

wet tusk
tawny lotus
#

^

slender anvil
#

Entropy is honestly prospecting REALLY well

#

i'm really impressed with how fast ruby works

gleaming thistle
tawny lotus
#

Ok uhh
Will there be any more blinds other than sun and op "epic" blind

slender anvil
bronze patio
high thunder
#

also someone here might wanna tell the almanac discord that you dont want polterworx compat for entropy

tawny lotus
#

Oh I forgot about those

wet tusk
#

I'm trying to make astronomica build off the same idea too, but i work slowly

bronze patio
#

i spend all day working on entropy

tawny lotus
#

Omg

gleaming thistle
bronze patio
#

like literally all day thats not even a joke

slender anvil
#

waow

tawny lotus
bronze patio
#

if people want that

slender anvil
#

dont get burnt out babygirl

gleaming thistle
#

like I dont have money cuz im unemployed but id be happy for you

high thunder
#

wait holy shit you've done this in less then a month

#

god damn

slender anvil
#

RIGHT?

bronze patio
#

i have nothing else i actually want to do rn other than play but i always have entropy on so it counts as working on entropy anyway

#

since im playtesting

tawny lotus
#

A lot

gleaming thistle
slender anvil
#

ruby if you ever set up a kofi i want 10%

torn wave
slender anvil
#

cuz im cool and deserve it

tawny lotus
#

/j

slender anvil
tawny lotus
#

cool

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I'd like to help

bronze patio
#

still need to get some evil blind music at some point

gleaming thistle
#

I love the entropic joker slot joker its so cool

tawny lotus
wet tusk
#

i also want astronomica to be compat with entropy too and not step on its feet so ive been developing around that a lot

slender anvil
#

is gemstonez working on it or

bronze patio
#

i actually dont know

#

if they are or not

tawny lotus
gleaming thistle
wet tusk
#

it's a very ambitious mod

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and it's my first coding experience

gleaming thistle
#

Honestly, there is only ONE joker in cryptid I really do not like
and thats googol play card

tawny lotus
#

Adds to your score

wet tusk
gleaming thistle
#

I like the concept but it doesnt work when SEED exists

bronze patio
#

i wanna add some more gabling-esque mechanics in line with googol play card but balanced tbh

#

i had one idea earlier

#

i asked gemstonez btw

slender anvil
#

waiting for None in Cryptid so it's also in Entropy

tawny lotus
#

I hate ee bro
I'm just enjoying life until
||πŸ”»|| (didn't find a suitable emoji or symbol)

high thunder
#

wait possibly

bronze patio
#

none entropic is something i actually wanna do

slender anvil
#

none hand none exotic none synergy with none hand none entropic

high thunder
#

the none stuff that doesnt fit in cryptid could maybe go in here

tawny lotus
#

Ascended none

high thunder
#

i feel like it'd be a good fit

tawny lotus
#

Imagine

slender anvil
#

no

#

well

gleaming thistle
#

what is none even

slender anvil
#

maybe

slender anvil
gleaming thistle
#

is it the nil suit?

tawny lotus
#

No

slender anvil
tawny lotus
#

0 cards played

slender anvil
#

its playing 0 cards

tawny lotus
#

Like none

#

That's the hand

slender anvil
#

None of a Kind

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0oak

gleaming thistle
#

is that getting officially added?

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to cryptid

high thunder
#

kinda

slender anvil
#

likely

high thunder
#

the hand itself is

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not most of the synergies

high thunder
#

the hand itself being added is 100% official btw

slender anvil
#

wahoo

#

yippee

wet tusk
#

we love none

tawny lotus
#

YEHHHH

bronze patio
#

if some of the stuff from the doc thats not fit for cryptid doesnt get added here anwyay ill think of some ideas for it since i do want to add stuff for it either way

#

it just depends on if people want the extra ideas here or just into the void

tawny lotus
slender anvil
#

either way we gotta wait for it to get added to cryptid first

wet tusk
#

when none gets added ill likely make content around it in ast too

bronze patio
#

i am like 100% adding an entropic that synergises with none at some point even if it isnt directly none centric

wet tusk
#

I'm excited to see how none will be implemented

slender anvil
#

none tomorrow

gleaming thistle
#

NONE TOMORROWW

bronze patio
#

ee tomorrow

#

jk theres like barely anything done for it

#

unironic none synergy though

#

atleast in the last phase of it

slender anvil
#

i mean it destroys cards

#

and None would at the very least be more consistent against it

bronze patio
#

im fine with that since the same is true for high card anyway

#

its just slightly better

slender anvil
#

yea

bronze patio
#

but the small advantage is meaningless for beating the blind itself

#

it just makes your run suck a small bit less afterwards

#

i probably need to do another icon for ee btw since the first part of it will probably just be defeat this blind with no extra effects added on

#

the upside down delta will be last, then the other two symbols which might be changed eventually are equilibrium and decay

#

but they dont have concrete effects yet i have really really unfinished ideas though

slender anvil
#

Decay sounds like Lavender Loop type value manip

bronze patio
#

equilibrium is gonna be the puzzle-ish part of it and decay will mess with your setup in some unknown way

#

i dont want it to completely kill your run after the blind though

#

and then of course entropy aka the last section of it is just apply all showdowns

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the ^^3 blind size from the original idea though probably not staying

#

the blind size in the last 2 parts will be higher than the first though

#

the second part is special since itll probably be independant of your setup so idk

#

i already have the phase system setup other than i want to change the blind sprite and display a new message each phase

#

which is probably as easy as just having 4 seperate blinds

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then somehow hiding them in the collection

slender anvil
#

you did figure out hoe to hide that one joker so ivm sure you'll manage

bronze patio
#

well there's native support for hiding jokers idk about blinds though

#

I wanted to hide blind tokens as a whole category too but I didn't figure it out yet

wet tusk
tawny lotus
#

Here

bronze patio
wet tusk
#

and you can't just add that to non-joker items?

bronze patio
#

idk if its supported or not is the issue i should test though

#

it doesnt work for consumable types though i know that cause i asked

wet tusk
#

you might have to add it individually to each one

bronze patio
#

i mean i can but it will be like the maluses from chocolate dice where it shows up as an empty set still

#

at which point id rather just have them show up

wet tusk
#

ah

tawny lotus
#

I always wonder what unique cards are

bronze patio
#

they are for the maluses specifically

primal pulsar
#

and the potions

bronze patio
#

those are maluses

#

well no

#

the maluses get applied by potions my bad

#

but we are talking about the same thing

primal pulsar
#

oh

tawny lotus
#

ts only appears when entropy exists

bronze patio
#

try reinstalling talisman idk

tawny lotus
bronze patio
#

the issue is that somehow the tetrate function is missing

#

which is really odd

tawny lotus
#

works now

#

thx

bronze patio
bronze patio
strange dome
#

woah cool! i really like the usage of the ui for being really ominous (the reroll message, the blind descriptions)

young rock
# bronze patio

There should be an achievement that if you have naneinf money, you can reroll, but it just rerolls into the same boss. It would be called "Told you not to"

bronze patio
#

the infinity is only visual right noww

#

i could add it

#

there was a bug the other day in entropy where you could get talisman Infinity money but idk how

cinder parcel
#

i'd be more than happy to help collaborate with you to make an amalgamation of unbalance if you so please

bronze patio
#

the only actual incompatibility is probably just ui related stuff but idk how to fix that tbh i think all the crossmod systems should be setup in a good enough way for anyone to be able to do entropy related stuff if they want to though as long as it works on newest cryptid

cinder parcel
#

i hear you, UI in pwx was a heavily requested thing but it's pretty delicate code

gleaming thistle
#

all ive heard about ui in steamodded is that nodes and whack and weird

bronze patio
#

outside of like one deck though it should be fine to add compatibility to though

high thunder
#

what would happen to the uhh

cinder parcel
#

well whenever you want to reach out to me for collaboration, the window's always open
not now though as i've yet to even begin working on 0.1.0

high thunder
#

i assume banned?

bronze patio
#

this is like the most rube goldberg machine setup btw

cinder parcel
bronze patio
#

it needs 2 different value manipulation jokers

high thunder
#

nice

bronze patio
#

you need a below 1 oil lamp and epitachyno also

#

since the operation is immutable its done by making the requirements really low

high thunder
#

i assume Endless Entropy will have to be changed though

#

kinda conflicts with epic/legendary blinds

cinder parcel
#

probably

gleaming thistle
#

The ever-looming exotic blind

bronze patio
#

entropic blind (just 1 im not adding multiple)

cinder parcel
#

cause there are some blinds in pwx that endless entropy wouldn't mix together well

bronze patio
#

not mix together well how?

#

if its just because of all showdowns theres a blacklist

#

since obsidian orb and lavender loop were causing issues already

#

i think the main things for compatibilities rn unless there are issues are
rarity related stuff, enhancement related stuff, and a few blacklists

cinder parcel
#

e.g. consider all the epic blinds that make the player lose instantly if the played hand does not contain a specific suit

#

all four of them active is a really tight bottleneck

bronze patio
#

they can just be considered not showdowns for these purposes anyway by being blacklisted

slender anvil
#

which are incredibly fun btw

#

love those blinds

bronze patio
#

1 other thing that im a little concerned about is probably the ban status of the easter egg joker(s)

#

theres 1 rn therell be multiple eventually but its like fortnite skins

#

where theres no tangible difference

cinder parcel
bronze patio
#

for reference:

#

||the edition thing is wrong cause its bugged also||

high thunder
#

i assume you gotta ban that lol

bronze patio
#

you could probably easily add all the other rarities if you wanted to but theres not a system in place for it rn

slender anvil
#

i mean its essentially unobtainable unless youre on creative mode already anyway

high thunder
#

with almanac, the blinds scale very fast

#

in addition to epic bilnds existing

#

you can have the ability to create every joker and still lose

slender anvil
#

oh yeah i forgot about the glorious invention that is straddle and its 3 unexplained gauges

#

πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«

#

theres just so much to account for

gleaming thistle
#

Straddle is good

#

tension I do not agree as much

#

I get the why

gleaming thistle
#

but idk if mixing the two together is great

high thunder
#

just the new ante scaling

gleaming thistle
#

tomorrow im gonna try to brainstorm for inverse tarots

#

AFTER im done with my assignment before the adhd brain hits

bronze patio
#

inverse tarots wont be for a while anyway

cinder parcel
#

it basically becomes completely endless, at least until the save file gets too large or something

bronze patio
#

well i mean thats like the whole point of the joker, you get everything so youre basically guaranteed to win always unless youre dumb so here you go heres an additional secret

slender anvil
#

i mean Kosmos is easier to obtain than that

bronze patio
#

this is a pretty difficult feat outside of doe but its really easy to never lose on doe anyway

slender anvil
#

you just get a bunch of apollos and youre done

high thunder
#

at least from what I know

wet tusk
#

it took me hours to obtain kosmos for the first time

bronze patio
#

you can still lose just crash ace to remove the joker

wet tusk
#

and MANY attempts

slender anvil
#

and how many times have you obtained Zenith legitimately so far?

wet tusk
#

once

bronze patio
#

outside of doe i should add

slender anvil
#

^

bronze patio
#

doe is really dumb so it doesnt count

gleaming thistle
wet tusk
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it took me one try

slender anvil
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i dont count doe as legit

wet tusk
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ah

gleaming thistle
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whats a doe

bronze patio
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well doc might allow for it but entropy scaling needs to be nerfed anyway

wet tusk
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equilibrium deck

slender anvil
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like the whole aspect of Beyond banishing your shit? skipped

gleaming thistle
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ah