#Entropy - A Very Chaotic Balatro Mod

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bronze patio
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all the ones that match up with vanilla/cryptid spectrals are not done

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but heres my spreadsheet

gleaming thistle
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I can try my hand at some :)

bronze patio
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thank you

gleaming thistle
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hmm

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can I suggest a different name for superego

bronze patio
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sure

gleaming thistle
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it doesnt make much sense as the inverse to analog imo

bronze patio
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idk what made me pick that name

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there was a thought process just a bad one

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just bare in mind the sticker has the same name too if thats relevant

gleaming thistle
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Maybe "Project"

bronze patio
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i like it

gleaming thistle
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Was reading up TV history and got the idea from rear-projection televisions

bronze patio
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sticker name is projected too

gleaming thistle
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not done but

tulip mortar
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Oh yo Is a goated card

bronze patio
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true

bronze patio
gleaming thistle
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the liquid that kills you

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or heals you idk

bronze patio
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kills you irl

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i would probably make the liquid red also

gleaming thistle
bronze patio
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yeah i like it

gleaming thistle
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uauaua

slender anvil
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waow

primal pulsar
gleaming thistle
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anyway I did some

bronze patio
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thanks

glad crown
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can i downloa this?

tardy river
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pins

glad crown
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thanks

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does it work with jen's almanac?

tardy river
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no, they require different cryptid versions

glad crown
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aww

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so it wont work at all?

tardy river
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correct

glad crown
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what version of cryptid?

pure shuttle
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help i got banned from entropy

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oh yeah are the versions on the main cryptid github page the right versions now

bronze patio
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yes

pure shuttle
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yippee!!!!!!!

bronze patio
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did you actually like download cryptid from the code button

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or releases

pure shuttle
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releases

bronze patio
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do not do that

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click code then download zip

outer latch
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what cryptid version should i get

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the github version is saying its missing smods

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?

primal pulsar
primal pulsar
bronze patio
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im gonna try sprite mimic soon i have ideas but idk how to actually create it

primal pulsar
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mask

bronze patio
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i want to make the cardart be a zoomed in mimic chest

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along these lines

primal pulsar
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ah

bronze patio
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might not work so i might change my mind but

bronze patio
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9 left

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substitute, evocation, crypt, rendezvous, disavow, ward, insignia, inscribe, and changeling

sinful cloak
bronze patio
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i just grabbed the placeholder sprites from cryptid and vanilla files

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theres a weird gap cause theres 2 ritual sprites in cryptid files and i didnt notice until after the fact

north blaze
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holy shit i missed a lot in the last 2 days

slender anvil
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yyyyup

gleaming thistle
slender anvil
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splendid

bronze patio
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Chronosonder - Rare/Epic
each hand randomly choose a random number of previously owned jokers and copy their effects

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previously owned by any means ie selling or destruction or conversion via crypt

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its mostly epic because the amount chosen would probably scale based on how many there are

wet tusk
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sounds like absolute hell to code

bronze patio
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well yeah but so was define and define is awesome

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define is 10% of the mods source code btw

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over 1000 lines

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depending on how difficult it is to act as if you have an arbitrary joker even when you dont the worst part is probably keeping track of previously owned jokers through any means

wet tusk
bronze patio
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i could have it be metaprogression so it does stuff with the previous run and itd probably be unironically easier but metaprogression is weird

slender anvil
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jokers you've won a run with, those with stickers

bronze patio
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thats probably better

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i personally dont mind a little metaprogression ie something along the lines of edens tears from tboi but you have to be careful putting it into balatro specifically

fresh magnet
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Can I suggest some toggles for Entropy?
If so, I might hold onto them since everything is breaking at the moment.
I can’t even look at my deck without crashing

bronze patio
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which is why a lot of metaprogression related ideas turn out weird

north blaze
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was define opposite ://function

bronze patio
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no

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pointer

bronze patio
fresh magnet
bronze patio
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i wanna make it work with the gamesets system eventually in the sense that if you go to mods > entropy > additions you can disable or modify anything but thats going to be a monumental amount of work atleast for the jokers

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most consumables maybe outside of some reverse spectrals are already pretty well balanced

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i could atleast look at adding toggles for the next update even if the individual gamesets dont do anything but for thematic sets and stuff i doubt it will ever happen soon since id have to rework how a lot of stuff is handled

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i didnt use cryptids way of loading things at first and instead just directly call SMODS.X functions so doing dependencies rn would require me to change that

sinful cloak
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nonetropy

bronze patio
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true

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none entropic when

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8 sprites left!!

sinful cloak
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none tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow

bronze patio
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entropy like probably within the next week

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if i randomly get 8 cards worth of inspiration it could be tomorrow but i really doubt it tbh

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art is the only thing left to do

willow glade
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what smods ver. this mod runs on?

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it keeps crashing in collection

bronze patio
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im on latest

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and it works for me

willow glade
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okay

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it works now

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found out it does not like ortalab that much

willow glade
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uh

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what in the world

dusky heart
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afaik jokerdisplay wasnt quite friendly with entropy

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probably not the main reason causing that error tho

willow glade
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this mod isnt very mod friendly isnt it?

slender anvil
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it's still in development

willow glade
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true

slender anvil
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major bugfixes will be taken care of after most of the actual content is done

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for now only the essentials i think

bronze patio
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stuff like jokerdisplay not working ill probably have done sometime after the next update

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reverse tarot update which is the one after the next one ill probably focus a lot on fixing things

willow glade
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yeah so i found the problem

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epitachyno crashes when triggered

bronze patio
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epitachyno bugs should hopefully be fixed when reverse spectrals drop since theres been a lot of changes to how it works

willow glade
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big if true

bronze patio
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its also only using cryptid functions in the new implementation so all bugs arent my fault hopefully

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also yeah its still called acellero internally i could change it but that would mildly inconvenience people cause stickers and break existing runs

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also also demicolon support already for entropy in advance

bronze patio
gleaming thistle
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maybe ill do one more card today / improve the ones I made already

bronze patio
tawny lotus
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Do you want to add factorial mult

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To like an entropic jooker or whatevr

bronze patio
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probably not

gleaming thistle
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mainly changing project rn

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also gonna change ichor to fit the set of cards a bit more

pure shuttle
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i constantly get "failed to compare number with table" with the joker that increases joker values by ^1.1

bronze patio
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this will hopefully be fixed soon

pure shuttle
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yay

bronze patio
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its fixed in the reverse spectrals update and thats very close to being done

bronze patio
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Ace Equilibrium -> Isozygio
all cards count as all suits, ranks, enhancements and editions
some other effect here cause this itself is probably exotic only maybe even legendary idk

pure shuttle
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all cards give ^^^^6.523e15925820395179283750918237590182735 mult idfk

wicked arch
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bronze patio
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update cryptid

wicked arch
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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

bronze patio
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you need to click code > download zip to get the newest version

wicked arch
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bronze patio
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huh

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it worked for me

fresh magnet
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Yeah. So Entropy is amazing.
Only one tiny nitpick is that Dekatria ONLY plays the Pentational sound when triggered rather than the corresponding sounds for the first two hyperoperations. but that's just a very specific nitpick, so don't worry about it.

fresh magnet
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Anaptyxi is making me lose Joker slots??

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Haunting images taken moments before disaster

gleaming thistle
slender anvil
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is it project or project

sinful cloak
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project i think (like projector, not science project)

slender anvil
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so project

fresh magnet
slender anvil
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m

gleaming thistle
primal pulsar
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parmticle acceleramtor

slender anvil
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each M card gains 1 M per M card

primal pulsar
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

slender anvil
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now with 30% more M per M

tawny lotus
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Imagine a third multiplier called m

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Would be very funny

tawny lotus
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What could possibly be the SFX for =mult

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There's nothing in my head

fresh magnet
tawny lotus
fresh magnet
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I might have something that can be used.
But if you wanna make your own, you could simply use the sound as a reference.

slender anvil
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you ratchet the number in place

fresh magnet
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Mtropy

slender anvil
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nice mithering

fresh magnet
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I thought thats just how the card looked?

slender anvil
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yea i think the dithering on the card looks nice

fresh magnet
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Me too

bronze patio
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entropy today or tomorrow maybe

slender anvil
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tomorrow tomorrow

fresh magnet
fresh magnet
bronze patio
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since its just using cryptid functions

wet tusk
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some of the ascensio jokers are having the same issue

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I believe

bronze patio
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only subtitute and changeling are left now

fresh magnet
sinful cloak
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yeah current cryptid is not as stable as release

bronze patio
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also btw

sinful cloak
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after the couple stuff is done, like pointer aliases, demicolon and the third thing, it'll be time to focus on refining it and making it less buggy

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so a small (tiny) content pause

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get cryptid nice and stable for a new release

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then new release

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then work on 0.6 begins

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my plan as a dev/mod

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o7

bronze patio
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that makes sense to me

bronze patio
slender anvil
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who up mandling they brot

fresh magnet
# sinful cloak yeah current cryptid is not as stable as release

I mean. You can play it from beginning to end, sure… but when you get into many different mechanics, the cracks begin to show.

And im not gonna crap on anyones work, because as it stands, conceptually, Cryptid is absolutely incredible. It takes an already terrific game, and makes it so much better. And you can customise it to your liking. It’s just so much more user friendly and approachable than [Name and Address withheld]

bronze patio
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i have some idea for substitute something involving a torn voucher but i really dont know how im gonna do changeling

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might actually take me a whole day just for that

slender anvil
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whats changeling?

bronze patio
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3 random cards in hand become editioned face cards

fresh magnet
slender anvil
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huh

slender anvil
bronze patio
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i mean yeah but i have no spriting ideas

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all the code is done

slender anvil
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ooooh

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melting face

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theatre masks

fresh magnet
bronze patio
slender anvil
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literally me when the day breaks

bronze patio
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worst case scenario i can just base it off of the existing face card sprites since familiar already does that

slender anvil
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whats the mask scp

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035?

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reference that

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its a melty mask or sth like that

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close enough

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mask to represent change of identity, melting to represent change of form

bronze patio
slender anvil
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true

bronze patio
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me when i change my ling

slender anvil
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ni lon

bronze patio
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i love dithering!!!

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ive probably been overusing dithering for reverse spectrals but idk

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its just easier to make the background look less boring that way

fresh magnet
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I was in a different era, aight?

bronze patio
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i was tempted to do something like that but i knew it would be horrible to sprite

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and wouldnt fit anyway

fresh magnet
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how did I survive the twenty teens

bronze patio
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oh yeah wow anaptyxi just straight up subtracts joker slots if you have a negative joker

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wtf lol

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i can do a hacky fix for now so enrtropy today and figure out the root cause later

raven helm
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Is this cross-compatible with Almanac?

pure shuttle
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i dont think

bronze patio
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no

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almanac uses a different cryptid version

sinful cloak
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old version*

fresh magnet
bronze patio
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entropy today

tawny lotus
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Origin is progressbar95

fresh magnet
tawny lotus
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hu

bronze patio
tawny lotus
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I mean ur SFX is cool i just dunno how to feel

fresh magnet
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Oh and mactiv63 will sound better in game. Its just that Discord’s playback is obviously at a high sample rate

tawny lotus
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o

fresh magnet
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Question, EntropyDev.
If some absolute psychopath were to make an “Entropic Buffoon Pack” ala the More Joker Packs mod, what would the base price be?
I know Entropic Jokers are $150
How does $300 sound?

bronze patio
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300 or 450

tawny lotus
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That means we can make exotic packs

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!!!

fresh magnet
tawny lotus
fresh magnet
tawny lotus
tawny lotus
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/J

fresh magnet
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It’s Soul Rare though

bronze patio
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aka the best entropic

tawny lotus
raven helm
sinful cloak
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likely

tawny lotus
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What next editions?

sinful cloak
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(jank will happen)

bronze patio
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it wont be incompatible but idk if im gonna make it compatible or not

tawny lotus
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Soul rare editions would be cool

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^1.5 mult or smth

bronze patio
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this mod is likely to get banned because of clashing ui changes and i also never play almanac

raven helm
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Oh

sinful cloak
raven helm
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No heavily modded "I'm adding everything" game :(

bronze patio
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ill just add 500 content to entropy and it will be fine

raven helm
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bortus voice
500 contet

bronze patio
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i have an idea for an entropic based on ace equilibrium but its not fully done yet

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Ace Equilibrium -> Isozygio
all cards count as all suits, ranks, enhancements and editions
some other effect here

tawny lotus
bronze patio
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perhaps

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my other idea was creating jokers based on the joker thats to the right weighting that rarity more liekly to appear but if it was another entropic it still wouldnt be guaranteed

raven helm
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Would that have similar issues to hooked or would it be fine?

bronze patio
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well ill just wait for hooked to be finished

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but also prob not

fresh magnet
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There’s a bit of…. Shall we say…. Disagreement between Cryptid and Almanac
If you like Almanac, more power to you, but unfortunately a few people here are sort of against it. They have their reasons, but just remember that as long as you don’t take it personally, you’re all gravy!

bronze patio
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WAIT im stupid i forgot enhancement deck spritees

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they are all placeholders rn

fresh magnet
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Shiny Dog tag should be green

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You know why

raven helm
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I doubt Ms entropy is one of the people you talk about, as she is in the Alamanac discord

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And I remember her discussing this addon in that server's other mods channel

bronze patio
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i dont like playing almanac but im just a chill guy

tawny lotus
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Only reason I play almanac is because tetration exists

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It's my most fav omg

fresh magnet
tawny lotus
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What

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I don't like pentation

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Too much

fresh magnet
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I thought you meant sound wise

tawny lotus
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Function and sound

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Pentation sound wise is cool too but tetration is too good
Game wise it's a lot

fresh magnet
bronze patio
raven helm
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All playing cards are nil and cannot change suits

bronze patio
fresh magnet
# bronze patio

Playing a Flush with flesh cards should be called a “Flesh”

bronze patio
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so true

fresh magnet
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And you know why I want shiny dog tag to be green right?

bronze patio
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i was gonna make it red ngl

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<- (very self centered)

fresh magnet
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The only reason was cos of glop pupper

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Glupper

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I understand the self-centeredness, but Cass also contributed many ideas

slender anvil
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youre obsessed

fresh magnet
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I need help

bronze patio
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i open my flesh deck and see this 😭

fresh magnet
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Our fucking teacher said

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…you know the rest

bronze patio
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i love riff raff and jolly joker?

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i cant escape

fresh magnet
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Hey Folks.

bronze patio
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i need refactor rn

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need more joker slots

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adversary lets go

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i need a jolly joker generator rn

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got megg

fresh magnet
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So I found the Red Room. Am I missing something here? All it did was make my money uneven

bronze patio
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red room just spawns a new blind for scaling and money

fresh magnet
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So like a bonus round?

bronze patio
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yeah

fresh magnet
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Thought so

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Although last time I checked, a red room is where a streamer lets his audience decide how he unalives someone.
According to the urban legends anyway

bronze patio
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its based on tboi

fresh magnet
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OH

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my mistake

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I have no idea where that came from. I apologise

bronze patio
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i gotta get engulf now

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im gonna start banning booster packs

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using delete

fresh magnet
bronze patio
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i need a way to get m jokers so i can get burnt m

fresh magnet
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So im guessing a Banish is the decided term for “Permanently remove from run”?

bronze patio
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yeah

fresh magnet
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Cos it used to be verbatim

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Jen is right about one thing though: people tend to neglect reading effects.
Even my father keeps calling me out and asking “Why isin’t Canio doing anything?”

bronze patio
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i need a ton of epic tags

fresh magnet
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Watch out for Sob

tawny lotus
bronze patio
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i have an absolute negative blueprint now

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well i got project and booster joker now i gotta get engulf

iron viper
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wait is this out or

bronze patio
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i can now get m tags

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yes

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check pins

iron viper
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oh shit

fresh magnet
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If you end up making an Ultrakill Boss Joker, will the score increase be exponential? It feels like the logical progression.

Prison: X8

Panopticon: X20

uhhh…Minos Prime?: ^?.?

bronze patio
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when p-3 drops i will

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motebook

fresh magnet
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I will always remember one chat comment from when Vinny played Ultrakill:

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“Vinny. You don’t have the mental disorder required to play this game”

bronze patio
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BURNT M

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i need to level flush 5

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all club cards are debuffed im cooked

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its over

fresh magnet
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AAAAH
BURN
AHHAHAHA
TRI-FORMA—
BURN
BURN TO THE GROUND
BURN TO THE GROUND
BURN TO THE GROUND
AAAAH
AAAAAH
AHHAHAHA
AHHAHAHA
BURN TO THE GROUND
BU-
BURN TO THE GROUND
BURN

bronze patio
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NVM

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my jokers are goated

gleaming thistle
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Do we have a palette/template card for entropic tarots yet

bronze patio
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no

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they are gonna be red though

gleaming thistle
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i see i see

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btw I dmed you the sprite changes I made for my stuff

fresh magnet
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You should make a Flame Hyneard Joker with a strong Solar Based effect… at the cost of listening to this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CfTsvWTtoiQ

The Axl Bullet is weak and Hyenard is considered to be one of the tougher bosses in this game. But once you know how his battle works, he's actually pretty easy. Here are some things to note about this fight:

  • If you fire at the front leg while walking, you can get enough bullets off to stop it just as you're about to jump onto it, avoiding ...
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bronze patio
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btw

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im probably gonna focus on a few other things

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before reverse tarots come out

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like adding new jokers and stuff

gleaming thistle
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makes sense

fresh magnet
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Sounds neat!

bronze patio
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i wanna do some more stuff for the new deck

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and therell be like atleast 2 new entropics since i already have the ideas for them

pure shuttle
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can you add tetration timmy

fresh magnet
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What would an Entropic Econ Joker even be like?
Compound interest can already reach NaN, so how do you intend to make something more powerful than that?

bronze patio
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no

bronze patio
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but like ace equilibrium the entropic version will prob be good for econ

pure shuttle
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d'aw no tetration timmy

bronze patio
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idk what im gonna do for tenebris cause i dont just want infinite joker slots

pure shuttle
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I Really Thought It'd Be Added. I Spent All My Time Into It!

fresh magnet
gleaming thistle
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Maybe a inverse card related joker? Do X to recieve an inverse?

bronze patio
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perhaps

gleaming thistle
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Im thinking of a possible joke for that

bronze patio
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a bad idea but:

RNA - Rare
if played hand contains exactly 1 card apply a random inversed card as an enhancement to it

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is something id probably do

gleaming thistle
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Aussie Austin

fresh magnet
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I happen to be Australian myself. I guess it’s force of habit

bronze patio
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i have an idea for the ultimate pandemonium joker though

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related to a bug before with chaos where anything could appear in the shop including decks and sleeves and stuff

fresh magnet
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So you know how I had Scalae and Greek Scalae? Its actually more stable than you think. I initially, Scalae’s value goes to naneinf, but it gets corrected and goes into the #’s

bronze patio
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??? - Entropic
any card/booster/voucher etc can spawn as anything including decks and sleeves
deck and sleeve effects stack when bought
blinds go to your consumables tray when bought
a bunch more edge-cases here
some other effect

gleaming thistle
bronze patio
fresh magnet
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Nono. I meant it in a good way. Somehow made Scalae even more insane while keeping it within conceivable integers

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Speaking of Jokers, I once saw you on the title screen. Was that an early version thing or something rare?

bronze patio
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this is prob the second best combo btw

bronze patio
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joker is a secret thatyou have to do shenanigans to find ingame but its not meant to show up on the menu

fresh magnet
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“May you never lose” I think you said

bronze patio
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theres a bunch of steps you have to do to unlock it but thats spoilers so you can check the wiki if you wanna find out

fresh magnet
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Im pretty content with entropic Jokers atm.
I might ask someone to make an Entropic booster with your permission though

bronze patio
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sure i dont mind

fresh magnet
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I assume the weight would be 0.001?

bronze patio
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rarer than exotics atleast

fresh magnet
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Exotic is 0.1

bronze patio
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0.01 or 0.001 yeah

fresh magnet
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Here’s my proposal:

Entropic Buffoon Pack

0.01% of appearing

Base price $300

Chose 1 of 2 Entropic Jokers.

bronze patio
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yea

plush apex
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wonder what the theme for entropic jokers are atm cuz maybe one day I'd like to make a card or two

bronze patio
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they are for the most part based on exotic jokers, the name is greek

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but the effects shouldnt just be an existing effect but stronger

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they should have the same general purpose executed uniquely

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like how both ieros and crustulum upgrade shops

gleaming thistle
fresh magnet
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2 or 3?

I imagine Lore-Wise, they were one-off prints that were made of materials that prevented them from being copied.

fresh magnet
bronze patio
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2 is fine

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entropy doesnt really have lore rn

fresh magnet
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Doesn’t need it

gleaming thistle
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balatro doesnt have lore

the jokers are jokes and the effect is the punchline das all

bronze patio
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there will be unique entropics eventually btw ie ones that arent based on existing exotics at all

fresh magnet
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Tbh, my only headcanon in Balatro is that some cards were included in promotional products

plush apex
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I just imagine its some crazy guy who assigns value to random cards he finds on the street

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and then plays poker with a completely confused dealer

pure shuttle
fresh magnet
pure shuttle
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doesnt double scale already do that

fresh magnet
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And then ALL jokers get the new scaled values

pure shuttle
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oh

bronze patio
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quadratic scaling and then when a scaling joker scales it increases all other joker values by the same amount

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excluding copies of itself and itself

pure shuttle
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are we allowed to suggest jokers

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for entropy

gleaming thistle
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Phlox - Colour
Create a Fervour for every 15 rounds this has been held

bronze patio
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I don't remember what the policy is but entropy has a server that's probably a better place for suggestions

pure shuttle
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wheres the link

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to that server

bronze patio
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no invite links allowed I'm sure you can find it on the GitHub page though

tawny lotus
bronze patio
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it was the second one you sent

tawny lotus
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Wdym

bronze patio
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so not e_solar but the other one

tawny lotus
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I don't underst-

bronze patio
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#1355287963151368233 message

tawny lotus
gleaming thistle
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why does banishing negatives do this to me

bronze patio
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stuff related to negatives are really weird rn

gleaming thistle
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oh well I got xekanos at least

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oh well im just softlocked

bronze patio
#

how did your hand size get like this 😭

gleaming thistle
#

I had several beans

#

I got rid of them and now hand size gone

#

also is the entropic stake supposed to be possible

bronze patio
#

no lol

#

you can beat it on redefined deck though

pure shuttle
gleaming thistle
bronze patio
gleaming thistle
bronze patio
#

blind consumables

plush apex
#

I'm assuming for any upcoming blind you can just use the blind consumable to change the effect to that blind

bronze patio
#

yes

#

theyll appear from an entropic among other things

plush apex
#

thank u

#

that's actually reall cool of an idea I'm surprised it has not been implemented

#

anywhere else I mean

tawny lotus
# bronze patio

The benefit of this is that you can use a blind consumables from deadly to an unaffective one

#

Right?

bronze patio
#

yes

tawny lotus
#

I have idea btw

#

Art idea:
Just these 2 merged into one lmao
So the background has this pattern of the boss' symbols, and then you put the boss itself in the center

bronze patio
#

i could do that but the current system is mod compatible and idk if i wanna mess with that

#

by this i mean

#

blinds from all mods that load before entropy will work

gleaming thistle
#

theyre not consumable though, they apply instantly

bronze patio
primal pulsar
slender anvil
#

they look classy

primal pulsar
#

crispy flesh ngl

bronze patio
tawny lotus
tawny lotus
iron viper
#

does this use lovely

#

or am i stupid

#

it probably does

primal pulsar
#

doesn't like every single mod require lovely anyways

iron viper
#

theres a few other stuff other than lovely for balatro modding

bronze patio
#

it does

iron viper
#

i probably should delete my current mods and reinstall so that i can use entropy

#

because it crashes on startup with my current mods

bronze patio
#

what message does it show

iron viper
#

i. already deleted it

bronze patio
iron viper
#

fixed it

#

i assume i still have to keep scoring anims on?

primal pulsar
bronze patio
willow glade
#

sleeve

iron viper
bronze patio
#

i might need to add an unapply function to decks and sleeves it depends how op i want this to be

iron viper
#

the file's called "entropy-main" yeah

#

or

willow glade
#

joker made out of antimatter yummers

wet tusk
#

wait what

#

deck in the shop???

iron viper
primal pulsar
#

john deck in the shop!

wet tusk
#

i love ceroba

bronze patio
#

sleeves and blinds too

wet tusk
#

BLINDS?

willow glade
#

what do they do?

iron viper
#

had another loading crash again

#

its 100% my installed mods

#

lemme

willow glade
#

show

iron viper
#

i mean when i loaded up the game i have to show the text file specifically

#

opening discord on my pc rq

primal pulsar
bronze patio
willow glade
#

industrial plant

wet tusk
#

wait thats insanely broken

#

i love it

iron viper
#

discord is directly refusing to open itself

#

guess i have to restart my pc

willow glade
#

what

iron viper
bronze patio
#

update cryptid

iron viper
#

this ONLY HAPPENS as soon as the game starts whenever i put in entropy-main in the mods file

iron viper
bronze patio
#

wtf

iron viper
#

i have both of these installed fym

bronze patio
#

i genuinely have no idea what this means

iron viper
#

im so lost rn bro

#

@bronze patio can i ask for a bit of a favor maybe

bronze patio
#

sure

iron viper
#

can you make a modpack of just entropy and its dependancies

#

i think thatd be easier

bronze patio
#

its just entropy talisman and cryptid all newest versions aka code button > download zip but i can at some point

iron viper
#

can it be later today or no

#

im just really tired right now im sorry

bronze patio
#

maybe i might be busy idk

#

theres some more things i wanna do for this than just blinds sleeves and decks too but this is the effect rn

#

i want anything here to be way more than it is currently

willow glade
#

also start purging mods if it still doesn't work

wet tusk
#

obtained a window

gleaming thistle
#

What if entropic playing cards were just majhong pieces

iron viper
#

what does memory leak do.

#

im scared.

karmic vale
gentle bluff
#

Im having the crash...

#

Updat Cryptid?

bronze patio
#

yes

gentle bluff
#

Damng... I gotta update SMODS and Talisman too

fresh magnet
#

Is it just me or does the Solitare Ace look like some sort of Mask with the Solar Effect

#

By the way. I had an idea for Legendary? Jokers.

Mirror the Joker sprite itself. Not just it's name. It'll be a little bonus for whoever notices it

#

Will Entropy have Cheevos?

#

So I might try to pledge the idea of an Entropic Buffoon Pack today.

What colour should the Booster be? Rainbow? Dark Purple?
And the background would be a purple void like the Twisted Pack?

unkempt mirage
#

wheres downloads?

dusky heart
slender anvil
#

Stillicidum + Oinac

#

cardS (plural?)

#

also personally i'd put it as a recursive 33% chance

slender anvil
#

ooh, ctrl+x overrules pack selection limit

#

oop

#

the ctrl+x was glitched due to ://MACHINECODE spawning it and i cant click on it to paste

#

@bronze patio how do i delete consumables without selecting them? i only have 1 consumable and can just delete all but how

#

nvm runs corrupted

#

wait a minute thats not a shop

#

Twisted deck seems to allow dupes, i assume due to the order in which items are spawned and then flipped

#

some kind of parity update for Star? cards to upgrade Constellation and similiar

slender anvil
#

i cant paste from a regular ctrl+x either

#

same crash

#

yyyyup and run corrupted

#

randomly getting the Code Joker from a segfault on the Twisted Deck is pretty wild tho

#

ah but of course

#

i need my glasses

#

will this work?

bronze patio
#

i actually dont know

sinful cloak
#

holy peak

primal pulsar
slender anvil
#

it doesnt

primal pulsar
#

womp

#

but hey

#

5 fabrics

slender anvil
#

but its an option to consider

#

yyup thats 10 joker slots and free deck thinning

#

i am definitely not upset abt this result

#

👍

#

hold on, this destroys not banishes?

primal pulsar
#

it should destroy and not banish

slender anvil
bronze patio
#

was it meant to banish?

slender anvil
#

i think that was the original idea? but i dont really care, it seems fine either way

bronze patio
#

yeah its not really super op either way

slender anvil
#

yea

#

i mean you can still get around it with Double Tag REWORK, but it's REWORK's problem not push-f's

fresh magnet
#

Since I got the Okay for an Entropic Booster Pack, think I should go for a Legendary? Buffoon Pack too?
What would the price window be for that?
30? 45?

slender anvil
#

whats exotic price

#

well

#

hold on

#

there only 5 reverse legendaries

#

unless we add a couple more reverses and maybe regulars

fresh magnet
#

Exotic Jokers base price is 50
Exotic Buffoon Pack is 65

slender anvil
#

i'd say 40 50 then for reverse legendaries

#

but theyre either gotta be really small packs or we have to make a couple more jokers

bronze patio
#

a pack of 5 choices rn would literally contain all the jokers of that rarity

slender anvil
#

yyyyup

slender anvil
#

probably Nostalgic Invis too

#

and i think we could get away with adding like 2 or 3 new legendaries to invert later

bronze patio
#

yeah same thing with new spectrals or whatever where new stuff in the future will also have inversions

slender anvil
#

i had a stupid fucking idea abt how to cram glop into this insane mod

bronze patio
#

just add a self insert easter egg like i did then there can be glop

#

the wiki is still wrong about that i need to fix it but im lazy

dusky heart
#

how do I obtain those 'nil' suited cards?

bronze patio
#

use cleanse

#

also where is that

dusky heart
#

I thought it was some kind of a compat issue at first

bronze patio
#

no its a downside to using cleanse

#

it creates Nil of Nil cards

dusky heart
#

i see

#

thx

fresh magnet
#

Seems legit

bronze patio
#

wtf

dusky heart
#

what

#

how

bronze patio
#

also i should probably add some trivia sections to the wiki

fresh magnet
# bronze patio wtf

It's because It Scaled Junk Mail.

Junk Mail spawns a Voucher at the start of a shop, and it's normally 1.5X the price. But since the Greek Scale scales EVERYTHING, the price got scalped to hell.

dusky heart
#

lmao

tawny lotus
fresh magnet
dusky heart
#

money tree

tawny lotus
#

Wtf

dusky heart
#

speaks for itself indeed

tawny lotus
#

True money tree

bronze patio
tawny lotus
#

Add @slender anvil as a secret joker that is busted powerful
Like that other one in the game

bronze patio
#

i have a relatively unfinished todo list for parakmi aka anything can appear joker btw

#

tags in the shop
stakes in the shop
consumables that set the ante in the shop
consumables that set the round in the shop
consumables that set hands and discards in the shop
prob more

bronze patio
slender anvil
#

nil +1 = nil makes sense

slender anvil
#

Delta, used to represent change

bronze patio
#

this is so fucking broken still but i mean i expected that so

slender anvil
bronze patio
#

whar

slender anvil
#

YOPU PROMISED YTOUYD PROTECT MEEE

bronze patio
#

?

slender anvil
#

😭

bronze patio
#

why is it doing that thats not normal

#

well you can never lose if you cant play the game

slender anvil
#

😭

sinful cloak
#

-# entropy demicolon compat when

tawny lotus
#

What

bronze patio
#

entropy is already demicolon compat

slender anvil
#

well this took a while but apparently im here now

bronze patio
#

why is there multiple messages

#

thats not normal!!!!!!!

sinful cloak
#

which joker is this

slender anvil
#

it's regular (trust)

bronze patio
#

this is so unnormal

tawny lotus
#

Is this the zenith joker I found on the wiki

bronze patio
#

what the fuck

sinful cloak
#

what joker is it

slender anvil
#

its very normal

bronze patio
#

hidden joker

tawny lotus
#

And why is the ante number random

slender anvil
tawny lotus
#

You can find on wiki

bronze patio
#

im gonna see if i can recreate this

sinful cloak
#

i'm trying to look into the code and fix this

bronze patio
#

also the wiki is wrong it says 1e300 dollars but its actually e300^^2 dollars

tawny lotus
sinful cloak
#

what's the key

bronze patio
#

check hidden.lua its all there

slender anvil
sinful cloak
#

why are all your functions in the joker files

bronze patio
#

i think the issue is that its triggering the saving multiple times

#

dont worry my organisation sucks

slender anvil
#

that would make sense with the multiple messages

slender anvil
#

its perfect

bronze patio
#

okay well my game crashes when i try to use the joker

slender anvil
#

incredible

sinful cloak
#

every copy of jens almanac entropy is personalized

bronze patio
#

attempt to index nil value in add_joker ???? what

sinful cloak
#

-# so anyway demicolon entropy compat when

bronze patio
#

the joker key that was added was "true" ????

bronze patio
slender anvil
sinful cloak
#

oh shit fr

#

show example

bronze patio
#

ill show burnt m since its the best effect joker to show it on

slender anvil
#

m

#

its the one that engulfs right?

bronze patio
#

yes

slender anvil
#

cool shader btw, gj

bronze patio
#

wait im not on the demicolon branch even 1 sec

#

did my pr get merged there cause if not scoring jokers still wont do the scoring

#

i gotta update smods one sec

sinful cloak
bronze patio
#

okay now i can actually show it off

#

nvm i forgot talisman is really pedantic about folder names

#

i forgot to make burnt m actually use events 💀 but thats not a demicolon compat issue it just makes it look really weird

sinful cloak
#

peak

#

make sure to not have infinite loops

#

note that both context.forcetrigger and context.post_trigger are blacklisted from further force triggers

bronze patio
#

i dont have anything that retriggers or should cause this rn anyway

#

theres one infinite loop in this mod and i left it in on purpose

#

and thats having sob and using #define to turn future copies of obelisk into sob

sinful cloak
#

-# is this a skill issue

bronze patio
#

i need to figure out how to add an achievements tab cause theres an achievement for that

#

the combination is actually relatively stable temporarily in the sense that if you trigger literally 0 contexts it wont crash

fresh magnet
sinful cloak
#

^score

fresh magnet
#

So both Chips and Mult?

sinful cloak
#

^score

#

#1360447253604470956

fresh magnet
#

DAMN

#

I never even thought about that

tawny lotus
#

Idk

#

I actually like this so much

#

I have idea

bronze patio
#

this mod will probably not need any more sounds for a while though other than =mult and i might add =chips at some point

tawny lotus
#

Score would fit

fresh magnet
bronze patio
#

it probably wants to sound like a worn out version of the regular mult sound idk

tawny lotus
#

I have sound idea

#

Let me search in internet

bronze patio
#

interesting

tawny lotus
#

M

fresh magnet
tawny lotus
#

@fresh magnet what are ur operator ideas for that SFX you sent

#

What

fresh magnet
#

hold on

torn wave
fresh magnet
tawny lotus
#

I'm special
I didn't try to make a goofy mult sound, just found one similar

sinful cloak
torn wave
#

the candy crush jelly clearing sound 😭

tiny sand
torn wave
#

Beyond

tardy river
#

the humble beyond:

torn wave
#

it's gateway on steroids

bronze patio
iron viper
bronze patio
#

hopefully should be fixed

#

aka update entropy

fresh magnet
dusky heart
#

sounds like jevil?

#

would fit well with =0 maybe

bronze patio
#

you can only get =0 rn with a negative scaling joker anyway

fresh magnet
#

Yep. It’s Jevil. I was just messing around

bronze patio
#

ie a joker that scales by subtracting

dusky heart
#

there exists?

bronze patio
#

popcorn technically

dusky heart
#

oh

bronze patio
#

but idk if that works with scalae/anaptyxi

#

but itd be the only way if it does

#

or well no

fresh magnet
bronze patio
#

duplicate an oil lamp above 1e300 to get x0

primal pulsar
#

can we have omelette part 4

fresh magnet
#

Theoretically, if Entropy was compatible with Aruniko, what would a solar editioned planet card add? I assume it’d basically be similar to stars? Level up + asc level

bronze patio
#

it is compatible

#

if the hand has ascension power from reverse planets it multiplies it

primal pulsar
#

whuts aruniko?

fresh magnet
#

And when you level up, the edition takes effect too

#

For example. A foil mercury will give your hand extra chips when levelled up

gleaming thistle
#

I oughta try the new update

bronze patio
#

solar on planets isnt like the solar edition otherwise where it gives you +1 asc if you dont have any for it to work on planets rn you specifically already need some

slender anvil
#

Oiraw (Legendary?)
When a blind is selected +3$ sell value and give $$$ equal to total sell value of your jokers and consumables
Retrigger the joker to the right once for every 10$ of Oiraw's sell value

sinful cloak
#

swashbuckler synergy

slender anvil
#

me when gift card

primal pulsar
#

Igiulaw?
Every Joker gives like 4 chips idk

slender anvil
#

Igiulaw (Legendary?)
playing cards give (1 + chips/10) Xchips when scored

#

so a 6 would do x1.6 and an Ace would do x2.1

#

and then theres Hiker

bronze patio
#

and inscribe too

#

which could turn a 10 into 3x chips

slender anvil
#

tru

primal pulsar
#

i dont even know how inscribe works lol

slender anvil
#

and cleanse 🔥 🔥 🔥

bronze patio
#

2x base chips for the card but its debuffed for the current round

primal pulsar
#

is 2x base chips permament?

bronze patio
#

for all number cards

slender anvil
bronze patio
#

in hand

bronze patio
primal pulsar
#

in hand? but dont they get like, debuffed?

#

hold on i dont understand inscribe lol

bronze patio
#

it makes them stronger in the future but you cant use them rn

slender anvil
#

they gain chips but are temporarily useless

primal pulsar
#

wait

#

i am pretty sure i used it multiple times but it never added the chips

#

since they're apparently "permament"

slender anvil
#

hotfix

#

?

bronze patio
#

debuffing and xchips are seperate so prob not ill test

primal pulsar
#

hold up

slender anvil
#

Rekoj Elbisivni Ciglatson (that name is fucked up)

bronze patio
#

works for me

#

just not in the deck preview

#

but this was x3 2 times

slender anvil
#

every 4th sold joker, Weld a copy of it

#

oh theres membah card also

fresh magnet
bronze patio
#

just have member card be based on the entropy server instead

#

ez

slender anvil
#

Drac Pihsrebmem

bronze patio
#

theres 31 people there rn for balancing reasons

fresh magnet
#

Polg

slender anvil
#

there, done

bronze patio
#

true 🔥

#

top 10 entropy moment

primal pulsar
#

😭

slender anvil
#

i didnt know we had a server

#

invite me or sth

#

buy me a coffee first

fresh magnet
#

Question about Ieros
How does it handle mods that add custom rarities? How would they be prioritised theoretically?

primal pulsar
slender anvil
#

youre late

bronze patio
#

they dont get prioritised without compat added

#

they just dont exist theoretically

fresh magnet
primal pulsar
#

im late?! *dies*

bronze patio
#

but you can mess with Entropy.RarityUppers to change it

slender anvil
#

🐌

primal pulsar
#

okay but yeah i tried inscribe and it works properly now

#

im just doodoo stupido

bronze patio
#

if you wanted to add one inbetween legendary and exotic you would do
Entropy.RarityUppers[4] = "myarity"
Entropy.RarityUppers["myrarity"] = "cry_exotic"

fresh magnet
#

Whats Xekanos meant to be anyway? A Time Machine? It almost looks like a refinery too

bronze patio
#

its a magical timepiece

slender anvil
#

its a whachamacallit

fresh magnet
#

Thought so.

primal pulsar
#

it kinda looked like a chess piece to me

fresh magnet
slender anvil
#

ok

bronze patio
primal pulsar
#

what the hell

bronze patio
#

me when im stuck at home

fresh magnet
#

I feel like this is a real deep cut, but at the same time I should know it.

#

Or did you make it?

bronze patio
#

no its a reference

#

i forgot how funny this joker was

primal pulsar
#

it looks funnier when you have the custom discord rich presence mod enabled

bronze patio
#

oh? do you have an example

primal pulsar
#

hold on

fresh magnet
#

Wait. Would having Ascensio make you even harder to obtain?

bronze patio
#

yes

fresh magnet
#

Dammit

bronze patio
#

it will also become harder as entropy updates

#

especially with parakmi being a requirement which will make getting jokers more annoying since theres more object types that can show up

slender anvil
#

i still pointered you, intended?

bronze patio
#

no

#

waiting for blacklist changes to be merged

slender anvil
#

ok

primal pulsar
#

gonna quickly do it

bronze patio
#

not really anything i can do until cryptid merges the changes into main

slender anvil
#

btw thoughts on the new 3 reverse legendaries?

bronze patio
#

unless that already happened and i didnt notice

slender anvil
#

whats good whats bad

bronze patio
sinful cloak
bronze patio
#

pointer

sinful cloak
#

iirc updated pointer is on main

bronze patio
#

oops

#

last time i tested they werent

sinful cloak
#

it's aliases not done yet

#

i think it's been like this since demicolon

bronze patio
#

how do i do this again

sinful cloak
#

but you should be using demicolon branch anyway

bronze patio
#

i am indeed

sinful cloak
primal pulsar
#

taking dekatria was a mistake

sinful cloak
#

examples that i did for almanac

primal pulsar
#

i keep hearing "HAH" endlessly

#

Help .

sinful cloak
#

(i don't know if this will become a public mod, ask drago)

bronze patio
#

can this be anywhere or does it need to specifically be somwehere cryptid.lua related

sinful cloak
#

anywhere

bronze patio
#

cause it seemingly doesnt work midgame which is probably a non issue but makes testing annoying

sinful cloak
#

it should

#

like there's nothing stopping it

bronze patio
#

did these but i can still create it

#

im on demicolon2

sinful cloak
#

eval Cryptid.pointergetblist('j_entr_ruby')

#

easy function to check if something is pointer banned

bronze patio
#

returned true

#

but i can still create it via pointer

sinful cloak
#

put it in mod code and relaunch

bronze patio
#

ye i need to add blist stuff to define too

#

define needs its own blacklist as well as the pointer one

sinful cloak
#

there's likely going to be more blacklist/whitelist api stuff based around pointer code in future

bronze patio
#

i need to completely redo define anyway but i dont wanna

sinful cloak
#

can always disable it and wait until blacklistlib is done

primal pulsar
#

hey guys check my profile

#

ante go brr

sinful cloak
#

ante -5.724 goes hard

sinful cloak
bronze patio
primal pulsar
#

MAPPY MOUSE

bronze patio
#

testing now

#

i put it in entropy.lua for now

sinful cloak
#

it's almost certainly coming though, posting about it in #spectralpack-dev led to chat liking the idea

primal pulsar
sinful cloak
#

mappy mouse meak

bronze patio
#

the requirement though

sinful cloak
#

if work i go play games

bronze patio
#

will scale too fast

#

it doesnt

sinful cloak
#

work or create

bronze patio
#

doesnt work it creates them

#

for both rarities and keys

sinful cloak
#

including exotics?

#

works on my end

bronze patio
#

wait nvm im dumb

#

it works

sinful cloak
#

yeah

bronze patio
#

but the debug pointer now doesnt let you create exotics which is why i was confused

#

it didnt work for exotics so i assumed it wouldnt work in general

sinful cloak
#

oh should prob do that

#

easy fix though

#

what's the thing to check for

bronze patio
#

G.DEBUG_POINTER, its weird because it shouldnt do that

primal pulsar
#

question
to obtain ||the zenith joker|| you have to have all entropic and exotics
right

bronze patio
#

but i cant create scalae at all

sinful cloak
#

done

primal pulsar
#

editions don't matter right

bronze patio
#

they are meant to but they dont

sinful cloak
primal pulsar
#

probably for the better because dekatria overrides editions

#

🤣

bronze patio
#

oh right lol

#

theres a debug define menu in entropy too

#

shift+space