Alex's Esoteric Joker Pack

[noble dome]

shoving the most random ideas i can think of into this game
[wip]
all card art is a placeholder

to be coded

[brisk tundra]

That is actually awesome 🤑🤑🤑

[noble dome]

one step done for speed demon

just need the description to update every second

[novel hatch]

you can do a game.update thing i think

i know cryptid has an example of that function in use during its gameset intro

[quick moon]

this is awesome

[noble dome]

you mean hooking game.update?

[novel hatch]

yea

[noble dome]

already doing that for the value decreases
just dont know how to get to the description

[novel hatch]

maybe set the timer as a loc variable, set it in seconds

then its as simple as dropping #4# in the description for the timer

[noble dome]

it is already a loc_var

the thing is the description only updates on hovering over it again

[novel hatch]

ohhhh

i see i see

yeah idk then

[noble dome]

if i find out how to get that then im definitely doing more rta jokers

also i should generalize the value decay bit

for example

[noble dome]

admittedly the handling for this being eaten is a bit spaghetti

could make it decay slower

better

[brisk tundra]

want to me make this now?

[noble dome]

yeah why not

[brisk tundra]

is this on github?

[noble dome]

oh i dont have a repo for it

[brisk tundra]

you should make one

so i can make a pr to add that

[noble dome]

https://github.com/AlexSC750/AEJP

[noble dome]

would the penta mult sound be good for speed demon timeout

[brisk tundra]

whenever I try to spawn the speed demon my game crashes

[noble dome]

yeah speed demon exploded

gimme a quick moment

[noble dome]

try now

[brisk tundra]

@noble dome I submitted a PR to add eternal when speed demon times out

also if you have cryptid installed it will apply absolute eternal instead

[noble dome]

yippee

[noble dome]

think im going to change how speed demon timeout would work
because if i want to have multiple independent ones i think im going to put the timed out version as a different joker

[brisk tundra]

Oh okay

[noble dome]

ok this is spaghetti

[brisk tundra]

Cool sound

[brisk tundra]

Did you make it when it turns back it loses eternal

[brisk tundra]

Oh cool 🤑

[noble dome]

i cannot figure out why is tsar bell not working

looks like the patches arent going through

[brisk tundra]

Check the lovely dump

[noble dome]

pattern doesnt match

for both

how is this not matchingg

unless it gets patched earlier by steamodded

WARN - [♥] Pattern ' for i=1, #scoring_hand do\n --add cards played to list' on target 'functions/state_events.lua' for pattern patch from AEJP\lovely\weh.toml resulted in no matches WARN - [♥] Pattern ' edition = true})\n end\n percent = percent+percent_delta\n end\n end' on target 'functions/state_events.lua' for pattern patch from AEJP\lovely\weh.toml resulted in no matches

[noble dome]

wait i think i just got it

[noble dome]

listen

tsar bell is done

and yes they stack

[brisk tundra]

commit this to the github

[noble dome]

will do when i get home

[noble dome]

speed demon now remembers its original stickers when it reverts

[noble dome]

will do a commit in a bit

[noble dome]

🎉

[brisk tundra]

epic

[brisk tundra]

is the working tsar bell on the github yet

[noble dome]

it should

[noble dome]

no idea where my plane of thought went with the names idea but whatev

[noble dome]

hmmm

[noble dome]

filtration and higher tiers are half working, only having problems with rarities that dont normally spawn

[noble dome]

also higher tier changes

[quaint tiger]

i downloaded the mod from the github and put it into my mods folder but it doesn't appear under the in-game "mods" section. folder is named "AEJP" and i'm using the version of smods that's in the cryptid 0.5.5 package

[noble dome]

how does the folder look like

[quaint tiger]

okag so i’m an absolute idiot, i pasted it into a “Mods” folder on my desktop and thought it was the correct Mods directory

don’t mind me being absolutely stupid lol

[noble dome]

💥

btw the only way to access lunatic or unreasonable jokers so far is debug plus

[pearl rune]

Oooooooo this looks sick as fuck

[noble dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017152779749441618.gif

[quaint tiger]

yeah i saw that they don’t show up in the collection, idk how to spawn things with debugplus tho

[noble dome]

press 3 while hovering on something

[quaint tiger]

lemme check the collection again, because i didn’t see the unreasonable jokers when looking in the specific mod additions tab

[noble dome]

should have 5 jokers

[quaint tiger]

oh nvm i’m dumb they are there

also those voucher ideas are sick, always wanted vouchers that make certain rarities more likely to appear in the shop

[noble dome]

new voucher planned
gain $1 interest every $4 you own (instead of $5)

[noble dome]

hmm
tree sapling: every $4
redwood tree: every $3
illuvatar: every $2

what do yall think of the names

going the seed money path

[noble dome]

done

admittedly redwood tree looks like crap but i had no idea what to do with it

[noble dome]

ok wait i think i have a better idea

im scrapping this effect

[noble dome]

what if

[quaint tiger]

ooooo

[sand hedge]

nah shit looks raw i fw it

[sand hedge]

ts would be insane with glowing deck

[sand hedge]

what if u made a epic or legendary joker called jawbreaker and its like that but it ^4’s the mult for 10 mins and removes 3 joker slots

maybe with a joker slot gained back every 20 or so hands at the expense of -^0.25 mult?

[brisk tundra]

you but it would decay faster

[sand hedge]

the decay time would remain constant if coded correctly

the values of both are increased thus neutralizing it

[noble dome]

what i do have to make is to make the decay be affected by cryptid stuff

because its on a separate entry

for later tho

[noble dome]

lollipop as an example

[quick moon]

since there are a lot of jokers based around time, wouldn't it make sense for there to be one that gets better the longer you have it? just as like an opposite to some of the jokers here

[noble dome]

planned
but gonna have to think of an effect for it

[brisk tundra]

I'm so excited to see where you take this

[noble dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017152779749441618.gif

iluvatar does require quire a bit of setup (as you start with less interest than base) but it should surpass redwood at around 110

shouldnt be a problem if you already got a lot of money from the other two vouchers

[brisk tundra]

[noble dome]

yup alright

[noble dome]

yup alright

also i didnt set iluvatar to per 2 oops

[noble dome]

now the thing is
should i lower some values so they arent absurdly broken from the start

of sapling and redwood

[quick moon]

i think so yeah

[noble dome]

how is this table
from left to right
interest cap, tree sapling cap (x), redwood cap (x), iluvatar cap (^)
160 is only for iluvatar as it raises the interest cap

wait hold up

better formatted

[quick moon]

i am so confused i was not good with maths

as long as its somewhat balanced i think its fine

[noble dome]

so at the end of round
without the vouchers you gain at most $5, $10 and $20
with tree sapling, you gain at most X0.25, X0.5 and X1 of your current money
with redwood tree, you gain at most X0.5, X1 and X2 of your current money
with iluvatar, you gain at most ^0.4, ^0.8 and ^1.6 of your current money

[quick moon]

oh yeah this is good

[noble dome]

plan for very later

counts as any rank

not sure if i can even code this lmao

politely borrowed from dos

[brisk tundra]

how many chips will they give?

[noble dome]

probably 10

[quaint tiger]

that’s actually a really cool idea

i’ve always wondered why no one implemented a “wild card” thing for ranks

[noble dome]

index cards are close to that

[noble dome]

being a 5oak that contains a straight

[novel hatch]

that needs to be an esoteric hand type called Straight Five

[austere rover]

Straight House when

[novel hatch]

Straight Five House

or just call it a Yes

and have it be considered every 5-card hand

[noble dome]

flush yes

[novel hatch]

nah it's still a flush

Straight Flush Five House

oh wait no its not

because suits

then yeah, Yes and Flush Yes

[noble dome]

ok i have to know how would i get this to work now

[novel hatch]

Perhaps

• 5 Wild Rank cards. Counts as every 5-card hand type except those that include Flush.

Yes

• 5 Wild Rank cards with a Flush. Counts as every 5-card hand type.

Abso-Fucking-Lutely

• 8 Wild Rank cards. Counts as every hand type, period.
  -# - Excluding The Entire Fucking Deck, get that with 52 of them

@noble dome

[noble dome]

this is amazing

[novel hatch]

then you can make a batch-planet with them

which is uhh

idk what suits do we have left

nothing

[noble dome]

the nothings suit from d&dg

[novel hatch]

y e s

or just have it be a horrendous amalgam

[noble dome]

both

[novel hatch]

Tietenkin

"of course"

[novel hatch]

planets, themed after fictional planets

• Tatooine
• Planet Popstar
• Bizarro World

[noble dome]

oooo

[novel hatch]

bizarro world could possibly become krypton

or maybe just The End from Sonic Frontiers lmao

[noble dome]

level up abso-fucking-lutely

[novel hatch]

y e s

[noble dome]

this is so good

i love it

[noble dome]

some placeholders

[novel hatch]

Poyo!

[noble dome]

i think i have an idea of how # cards could work but i have no idea how to code it in

[ruby narwhal]

is there a release version out?

[noble dome]

nop

prob when i get enough stuff in

[novel hatch]

Do Bears Fucking Shit in the Woods!?

• 52 Wild Rank cards. Why did you do this to yourself.

[noble dome]

what in the world is that name

[wanton night]

Well Yeah, I Guess

• 5 Wild Rank cards with a Spectrum. Counts as every 5-card hand type.
  -# - Well, either that or just the Spectrum side, while Yes holds only the Flush side.

[noble dome]

honestly could prob work if i add the nothings suit

what was the mod that added spectrums

[wanton night]

There's a few. Six Suits adds relatively weak ones since you have all six in the deck by default, while Bunco adds strong ones due to the secretive nature of the Exotic Suits it adds. The Corruption Mod also plans to add them, and I assume they'll be a similar strength to the Bunco ones since Optics are similarly a product of special circumstances.

[novel hatch]

Spectrums in Corruption are actually stronger than in Bunco

except the difference is that they cannot be made with wild cards

whereas in Bunco you can use wild cards (and thats actually how you add the exotic suits to the run, through a spectrum played like this)

[noble dome]

oo

alr now i have to add the wild rank cards

the thing im not sure is how im going to code them
altho i do have an idea

[noble dome]

nvm i just realized this would require 13^n calculations

mmm

[noble dome]

heartbleed joker

(the openssl vulnerability)

[quaint tiger]

last night i had an issue with the game crashing on startup that i thought was smods related, but just now i figured out that it was this mod that caused the crash, crash log in the next message

might be an issue with the new blind calc, idk

[noble dome]

can i see the entire log file

seems like a lovely patch for tsar bell didnt go through

[quaint tiger]

i’ll see if i can find the log file for this

[noble dome]

yup knew it

going to update steamodded and fix that

[noble dome]

fixed
will commit in a bit with a few more stuff

[noble dome]

patched

[noble dome]

couldnt think of a name but

so like
if you defeat the psychic you get +1 card selection limit
if you defeat the plant you get a bonus for face cards

somethin like that

[quick moon]

This is going to be the best balatro mod istg

[noble dome]

e

i wanna do it like chocolate die where you can hover over all the effects that you have

[quick moon]

Do you need suggestions on ones you're missing?

[noble dome]

yeah

[quick moon]

Have you thought about the eye giving an ability like card sharp?

Where hand types that have already been played gets more xmult or mult

[noble dome]

hmmm

[quick moon]

Or maybe the more hand types you play the higher the mult

[noble dome]

that could prob go to the mouth

[quick moon]

That's what I was thinking

I'll keep thinking a about the rest of the bosses

[noble dome]

eye could prob be an obelisk that doesnt reset

wait that isnt how obelisk works

playing a different hand than the last one played scales it

thats what i meant to say

[quick moon]

For acorn perhaps each joker gives a certain amount of mult depending on its position? Not sure how tough that'll be to implement

Also couldn't the hook just draw 2 extra cards when you play a hand?

[noble dome]

maybe

[noble dome]

progress

[noble dome]

wait i just realized how am i going to do the scaling ones

[brisk tundra]

orange

[noble dome]

putting this here so i dont forget

[quaint tiger]

holy shit glop real

[noble dome]

also i plan to add a guest appearance related to rta jokers

[wicked mirage]

glop tomorrow!!!!!

[noble dome]

hmmm

also i think there would be 2 types of rta jokers just so i dont conflict them

timer and increasing/decaying

[safe forge]

what kind of stacking

[safe forge]

just popping in to say that this crashes on launch with latest smods, other mods being used are debug+ and everything in almanac 0.0.8 standalone

yes i narrowed the culprit down to your mod

been a while since update tho so i should probably try that first

[safe forge]

which fixes it -.-

[noble dome]

probably additive

altho maybe x5 would be too much

x3 and additive could prob work?

[plain maple]

does this mod works

[safe forge]

yes

[plain maple]

sweet

[noble dome]

putting it here for later x2

still not sure if ill be able to get it to work but its silly

[worn wedge]

where do i download this

[novel hatch]

pins

[worn wedge]

i dont see any releases on the github

[novel hatch]

then download the source code

[worn wedge]

o

[noble dome]

there prob wont be github releases until i have more content

[worn wedge]

i can come up with ideas if thats the issue

writers block

[noble dome]

oo

i wanna have more rta jokers

i know that for sure

[worn wedge]

whats an rta joker

[noble dome]

joker that varies with real time

for example speed demon or lollipop

and ig glop but im prob removing it

[worn wedge]

Chair
(Lunatic)

[x100] Mult
Lose [x1] Mult every second this card isn't debuffed
(When debuffed, adjacent jokers gain [x5] Mult)

[noble dome]

what would happen when it reaches 1x

[worn wedge]

you could take one of 3 routes

1, Buff all other jokers with like- x2 extra mult

2, destroy it

or 3,

be a troll and make it go into the negatives

[noble dome]

💥

[worn wedge]

if you go with option 3, the chair would turn into "vintage chair"

and "decay" overtime

[noble dome]

mm

[novel hatch]

mmmm

[noble dome]

not very sure

[worn wedge]

would b pretty funny tho

especially if you made MORE jokers that went into negatives

you could make a deck around it

x100 mult is pretty busted

especially if you have tsar bell

[noble dome]

it would last a minute and a half

[worn wedge]

aye that minute and a half could make or break a run fr

you could go for the super overpowered route and make chair be x500 mult, and lose x5 every second

same time but more payout

[noble dome]

also what would vintage do

[worn wedge]

it would make it go into negative x mult past 0

but it would have a upside

like 50 chips for each number below 0 or something

and you can make more vintage cards to go with the negative stuff as i said

maybe even a hammer joker

that can reverse vintage effects

[noble dome]

wouldnt that practically kill the run if you have an odd amount of -x

[worn wedge]

who said it was supposed to be balanced

:3

[safe forge]

get two