but I see the vision
#Oblivion [OPENING ACT]
mental mango
grand pumice
ooooo this is cool
north umbra
hmm how can we make chicot worse...
grand pumice
Chicot/Luchador are one of the worst vanilla jokers from a game design standpoint
north umbra
Chicot/Luchador are one of the worst vanilla jokers from a game design standpoin...
elaborate
grand pumice
blinds are cool
north umbra
ngl most of them are pretty meh
its like 'x cards are debuffed/face down' or 'you lose money' or 'you cant do x build on this one'
and then theres like arm and wall
loud perch
getting closer to having the music in-game...
grand pumice
damn, looks very oblivious
loud perch
bout fuckin time
i almost have a full page of jokers btw
2 full pages of jokers and then i'll put shit out
john corruption
actually would he be John Oblivion now
grand pumice
no john oblivion is a different guy
john corruption corrupts stuff, not obliviate it
loud perch
too bad, he's john oblivion
grand pumice
;anguish;
loud perch
loud perch
okay now what could he corrupt into
dull flicker
Idea:
Purifer (Rare)
Gains x0.25 mult for each corrupted joker sold.
loud perch
mayhapsss
loud perch
still true for oblivion tho
north umbra
okay now what could he corrupt into
Jack Balatro
boreal dome
He tetrates all over the place
loud perch
loud perch
@grand pumice none sludge
grand pumice
those who none
digital sphinx
sludge sounds really funny to play around
loud perch
it absolutely will be
i just need a way to force a particular card to never score ever
lethal fog
toner soup 2
digital sphinx
golden ticket + sludge = just use gold cards like normal lol
loud perch
i just need a way to force a particular card to never score ever
need this logic for crystal cards too
and marks of ruby
digital sphinx
Cavendish questline is real
grand pumice
... thinking of sluj
tardy sage
i just need a way to force a particular card to never score ever
Debuff?
loud perch
Debuff?
That disables abilities
Which I don't want
They need to be made forcefully unscoring
even stone cards
terse coral
<@307017619406585856> none sludge
Does that mean Steel cards trigger in played hand?
digital sphinx
How many jokers synergize with optics cards
and by extension spectrum hands
There's prideful joker and the spectrum jokers to start with
Flower pot is technically a spectrum joker but doesn't check for optics
If you play a hand that's entirely wild cards does flush or spectrum take priority
secret hand type: spectrum flush
loud perch
If you play a hand that's entirely wild cards does flush or spectrum take priori...
spectrum specifically ignores wild cards and only counts the base suit of them
loud perch
Does that mean Steel cards trigger in played hand?
y u p
loud perch
How many jokers synergize with optics cards
the ones you mentioned, plus soon to be Abyssal Bismuth, and the twisted enhancement Jokers
with more to come later
grand pumice
oh damn thats oblivious
loud perch
rotund ivy
how oblivious
loud perch
new
digital sphinx
Interesting
That could scale scarily fast I imagine
The more that I think about it the more busted this gets
even if you just corrupt abstract when you have 5 jokers thats already at minimum +24 mult (assuming it counts itself as a unique joker)
imo this needs to be nerfed to +2 mult, maybe even +1 mult
loud perch
+2 works
north umbra
thats what the mask is
boreal dome
that what the point of the mas kiss
subtle briar
loud perch
when the epsilon
loud perch
Infinite Enter (Achievement)
- Store a Negative Infinitesimal Joker in Supply Drop
digital sphinx
Had a ridiculous idea for corrupt anaglyph deck
- All Tag effects are now permanent
Picked up a Rare Tag? Congrats, now every shop has a guaranteed rare
Downside could be something like blind size is multiplied by number of tags
Also some tags should be nerfed for obvious reasons
All the joker tags now have you pay full price for example
loud perch
Oh what the fuck that's cool
loud perch
dull flicker
How would double tags work? Do you just get a new one when it is used?
blissful scaffold
trloled
loud perch
corrupt erratic deck is gonna have a funny
PLAY
"Are you sure?"
YES
"Are you REALLY sure??"
I'M READY
"Good luck."
OK
digital sphinx
Corrupt Anaglyph Tags
some additional notes
If multiple Joker/Edition tags are obtained, then it will work like it would in vanilla (first slot has X, second has Y, etc)
The booster pack tags will override what would normally spawn in that shop. If you have two Charm tags, then shops will always have two arcana packs. However, if you get a THIRD booster pack tag, then the shop will now have three boosters every time
also I have no idea how to turn boss tag into a permanent benefit since director's cut already exists
loud perch
hmm
north umbra
Corrupt Anaglyph Tags
ngl these would make fire rebalances for the tag system if they were toned down a bit
loud perch
hexa mods discord? yes or no (would include oblivion and puke tarots)
loud perch
soon
i'll push this and the oblivion alpha at around the same time
actually which of these icons do yall prefer
digital sphinx
actually which of these icons do yall prefer
ace of optics looks best imo
blissful scaffold
ace of optics
mental mango
Ace of optics
loud perch
damn ok ace of optics it is
blissful scaffold
sole reason why i choose ace of optic is because of this
but i guess you should add a corrupt joker next to it so it blends in with like, every balatro server ever
loud perch
i guess parallel joker is the most recignizable
actually how about THE SHOW NEVER ENDS
north umbra
actually how about THE SHOW NEVER ENDS
the fun never ends at sega enterprises
blissful scaffold
beautiful
loud perch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdrKMkOpQ2E
what do we think of this as a theme in one of the superboss phases
if i did include this (which i very much might) it'd be the second phase music
the one that applies crimson heart, amber acorn, and cerulean bell all at once, along with anti-build deck manipulation
current effects i have are:
- 10 hands, deck is reshuffled if you deck out
- X30 Blind size
- Amber Acorn, Crimson Heart, and Cerulean Bell all at once
- Purposefully destroys a card that's essential to your build in retaliation every hand
- Bans previously played cards at half health
tight dove
๐๏ธ
๐๏ธ
ahh tree
digital sphinx
what would this eye tree be corrupted from
flower pot maybe
thats the only joker explicitly based on a plant
loud perch
oh it actually makes sense to be optic related then
dull flicker
i should make a joker out of this
Happy house's corruption?
loud perch
idk how feasible this would be but
one moment
actually how about this
each tentacle has its own activated ability instead of being constant boss blind effects
One chosen at random each hand:
Blue: Forcibly selects 3 cards
Green: Debuffs held cards
Red: 2 Jokers debuffed
Yellow: Everything is flipped and shuffled
Purple: Heals another tentacle
also adding a green and purple for VL and VV
and then they proc their respective showdown effects when defeated
for instance, green takes a joker down with it
red activates crimson heart
etc
purple is just chunky as fuck so theres no need to give it an on-death
and then the thing becomes unshielded and you can take it out proper
(with reduced health from X30)
digital sphinx
Sounds interesting but without actually playing against it I can't gauge it balance and enjoyment wise
loud perch
loud perch
UI mockup if anyone's brave/insane enough to do it
loud perch
digital sphinx
Idea: Voucher or mutation that lets you directly corrupt a joker without needing the tarot
loud perch
i need to make other ways for jokers to corrupt yeah
Miasma edition and The Abyss are the only ways so far
oh and Stygian Sigil ig
however, I will say that Wicked Packs are guaranteed to contain The Abyss
so the Wicked Invocation voucher is very useful for that
@digital sphinx
loud perch
dagger corruption doing that could be fun
digital sphinx
corrupts/miasmas the joker to the right
loud perch
destroys it otherwise
digital sphinx
miasma sounds more fun
loud perch
corrupts/miasmas the joker to the right
ovn adds miasma edition to leftmost joker after every boss blind
and cigarette card makes all uncommon jokers spawn with miasma
theres a lot of miasma sources
digital sphinx
in that case direct corruption is fine
loud perch
Hand of the Abyss (Corrupted from Ceremonial Dagger)
- When Blind is selected, corrupt the Joker to the right
- If the specified Joker is not corruptible, destroy it and gain its full buy price
digital sphinx
Thousand-Degree Knife (Corrupted from Ceremonial Dagger)
- When blind is selected, corrupts Joker to the right
- If Joker cannot be corrupted, destroy it and gain money equal to triple its sell value
loud perch
LMFAO??
loud perch
schlorp
digital sphinx
Had a fun idea for madness corruption
What's more extreme than destroying jokers? Destroying joker slots
loud perch
madness doesnt really need a corruption
digital sphinx
aww
loud perch
actually i dont think blueprint/brainstorm need one either
there are 2 criteria that determine if a joker wants a corruption
- is the joker bad?
- is there a REALLY interesting idea i could do with it?
digital sphinx
interesting
loud perch
i want every "bad" joker to have a corruption
superposition and seance are my next 2 targets
digital sphinx
What if superposition literally put cards in superposition
like it messes with enhancements and they function as multiple at once
could be interesting with the optic enhancements
only downside is that it has nothing to do with the original joker
loud perch
no but there is a theme of "[hand] containing [rank]"
ace target would be too easy
so maybe 7 target?
digital sphinx
superposition's gimmick is playing a straight with an ace, which is the most difficult way to play a straight
so ideally the corruption should also focus on being the most difficult way to play x hand
digital sphinx
Two pair containing a face card and a non-face card?
digital sphinx
would this create a spectral, a mutation, or something else?
loud perch
lets say Mutation for funsies
playing a specific hand is hard but a mutation is rewarding
actually this is better fit for seance
superposition could be offsuit 2 and 7
digital sphinx
Achievement idea
Color Me Impressed
- Play a Spectrum, a Straight Spectrum, a Spectrum House, and a Spectrum Five in a single blind
loud perch
LMAO
honestly with how much you contributed ideas to this mod youre pretty much an honorary co-creator lol
grand pumice
obibon
crisp grail
Oven
sand mason
omen globe
digital sphinx
ovn glop
loud perch
instability
crisp grail
Optic
loud perch
The Nerve
loud perch
+6
digital sphinx
bout fuckin time
this guy
sand mason
alright yawesome
blissful scaffold
oblivioncord tommorow
loud perch
introducing the Stygian Tag, which creates a Wicked Pack... Even if you don't have the Wicked Invocation voucher!
this gives you a guaranteed method to obtain The Abyss when you need it most
resemblance to the Stygian Sigil boss blind is completely intentional
digital sphinx
cool
loud perch
no oblivion progress yesterday feelsbadman
loud perch
i think most of the work now is gonna be bugfixing and commenting out the most broken content
then i'll unleash the alpha
and get some """"hired"""" help
grand pumice
ah, i get it, abducted
loud perch
yes
loud perch
ovn
loud perch
wtf this is literally my roblox game
whar
loud perch
oh
digital sphinx
btw where download
none yet
if only the title of the forum post had the current development status of the mod
loud perch
i think most of the work now is gonna be bugfixing and commenting out the most b...
- add wicked packs
- finally add the destroy and banishment function
- BUGFIX DEAR FUCKING GOD JUST BUGFIX THERES WAY TOO MUCH YOU NEED TO FIX OH MY GOD
blissful scaffold
oblivioncord tommorow
loud perch
oblivioncord tomorrow
grand pumice
tomorrow
crisp grail
morrow
grand pumice
obibon
sand mason
omen globe
mental mango
oblubob
digital sphinx
booblivion
pliant mantle
oblili
grand pumice
wheres obibon server
loud perch
im sorry i havent worked on this in a while
blissful scaffold
omblivion
digital sphinx
oblobble
crisp grail
Bob
digital sphinx
NOT WHAT I'M CALLED
Idea: attempting to corrupt ovn force-triggers it and changes its name to a different misspelled variant
exotic oxide
oberon
loud perch
Idea: attempting to corrupt ovn force-triggers it and changes its name to a diff...
oboe
omimo
obivi
grand pumice
obibon
digital sphinx
owo
grand pumice
obibon tomorrow
loud perch
oblivion chapter 3
Oblivion Tomorrow (Corrupted from ovn)
- After leaving shop, create a Negative Oblivion.
- Self-destructs after 5 Oblivions have been created this way.
loud perch
i know this is basicaly just optic suit deck but just hear me out ok
actually no how bout just X2 base blind size
no tripling bonus chips
digital sphinx
blind size increases by X0.01 when an optics card scores
digital sphinx
o
loud perch
b
sterile canyon
l
upbeat widget
i
exotic oxide
v
tight dove
i
terse coral
o
grand pumice
n
north umbra
[
grand pumice
W
pliant mantle
I
digital sphinx
P
sterile canyon
/
exotic oxide
N
grand pumice
o
upbeat widget
D
high narwhal
e
grand pumice
loud perch
o
sterile canyon
]
crisp grail
You forgot the spaces
blissful scaffold
hexa please feed us a dneakpeek
broken jasper
Can we have oblivion tomorrow
mental mango
Obbloble tomorrow
grand pumice
obibon ๐๏ธ
sand mason
Oboe
mental mango
Ob
digital sphinx
grand pumice
obibon tomorrow
crisp grail
YOUR
loud perch
LONG
grand pumice
west lake
Correct โ
blissful scaffold
is ombivion dead?
grand pumice
no
loud perch
no
north umbra
daily oblivion health status report
grand pumice
obibon
loud perch
daily oblivion health status report
truncating corrupt plasma deck description
mental mango
opli^ion
loud perch
no way
exotic oxide
there we go
digital sphinx
opinion
sand mason
obligatory
rotund ivy
obsidian
digital sphinx
onion
grand pumice
obibon
plush jackal
oganesson
rotund ivy
octillion
sand mason
omen globe
exotic oxide
octillery
west lake
origami
loud perch
onigiri
pliant mantle
Anish Giri
loud perch
oblivion alpha when this thread reaches 2,763 messages (real) ((dont count on it))
west lake
Bisexual Violin
grand pumice
obibon
sterile canyon
oblivion alpha when this thread reaches 2,763 messages (real) ((dont count on it...
battle for oblivion island
blissful scaffold
oblivion alpha when this thread reaches 2,763 messages (real) ((dont count on it...
please please please please
pliant mantle
Utter Oblivion
digital sphinx
whipped/no meadow
sand mason
oblivious
upbeat widget
grand pumice
obibon
west lake
Novibloi
loud perch
yknow when it comes to cryptid crossover shit i have a lot of questions
what the hell would the optic-twist of Abstract be
or CCD
west lake
what the hell would the optic-twist of Abstract be
Cards made of concrete
digital sphinx
what the hell would the optic-twist of Abstract be
imo I would double down on the abstractness and make it really weird
dull flicker
Since abstract cards disapear eventually, would the opposite not do something like always keep them around like with an eternal or global sticker? For the former, you could even keep the glitch refrence by instead refrencing the gaslight district.
||I'm pretty sure one of the major themes of the show is that a refusal for change in ones life will only make matters worse than if it was embraced in the first place||
upbeat widget
A thought that came to my mind is that optic-Abstract could be based on SCP-INTEGER - basically the SCP "absorbs" any descriptions about it (whether initially true or not) (thus only a few select terms can be used to describe it), and abstracts anything that describes it accordingly - especially sentient folks
So basically optic-Abstract could be something that "punishes" cards played alongside it, instead of itself (and continuing with the twists, instead of having its own rank/suit, it has its own poker hand that arises when optic-Abstract is played - which is how it manages to "punish" adjacent cards)
digital sphinx
Optic-Echo: Mimic Card
Whenever a non-Mimic card is retriggered, retrigger this card
west lake
I still think concrete cards are the best
west lake
Iโd imagine itโd be smoother and more granular
Itโs not a very corrupt-y concept though
loud perch
hm
but thats just it
corrupting abstraction
it's just. normality
or maybe it's suppressing it
and actually, in line with the TADC reference of Abstract Cards, that brings Gangle's masks to mind
and im wondering if itll work if it counts as two cards in one
not necessarily double-sided
two cards that occupy the same card face, effectively counting as two cards
oh yeah here's one
Optic-Light: Bone Card
- If played, only Bone Cards score and have +1 trigger
- X1.5 Mult
since light cards want you to play other cards alongside them, bone cards take that to the next level by wanting more of them every hand
for example if you have 4 bone cards, all bone cards trigger 4 times
mental mango
Onceler
loud perch
oh yeah here's one
Optic-Light: **Bone Card**
- If played, only Bone Cards scor...
what do we think of 
digital sphinx
sounds a bit busted if you get lots of them but I like the idea
sand mason
oh yeah here's one
Optic-Light: **Bone Card**
- If played, only Bone Cards scor...
stone
bone
loud perch
grand pumice
obibon
sterile canyon
Ogerpon
rotund ivy
obelisk
west lake
digital sphinx
north umbra
loud perch
now theyre not
digital sphinx
obligation
mental mango
Opa-gangnam tomorrow
west lake
loud perch
lmao
west lake
If I ever manage to play the word oblivion in a game of Scrabble, I will make sure to spam DM you
grand pumice
obibon
north umbra
fa and za ๐ฅ
north umbra
orb leave eon
mental mango
Obominable
loud perch
i feel like i should be leaning more into the "technology" theme of corrupted jokers more
my original theming ideas were darkness, occult, water, and technology, and i feel like technology especially has been lacking
its fallen a bit to the wayside though, but it still does exist to some capacity (dynamo and ion cards)
and ig mutations are in that technology vein
risk of rain 2 and nova drift have always been the primary inspirations behind this
as well as some inspiration from my own writings about purple technological abyssal bad guys
blissful scaffold
give us a joker that's literally a circuit board. a motherboard. diodes
grand pumice
wasnt diodes that one homeless greek guy
broken jasper
Vagabond corrupted form lol
digital sphinx
i feel like i should be leaning more into the "technology" theme of corrupted jo...
chat gpt joker
north umbra
wasnt diodes that one homeless greek guy
nah diodes are like the different types of ecosystems
grand pumice
nah diodes are like the different types of ecosystems
then what are a relligion's fundamental axioms called???
north umbra
then what are a relligion's fundamental axioms called???
i was wrong its actually a type of igneous rock
grand pumice
i was wrong its actually a type of igneous rock
nono youre thinking of the lizards you imagine sometimes
north umbra
nono youre thinking of the lizards you imagine sometimes
actually im pretty sure diodes are like the things with amethyst clusters
grand pumice
diodes are the currency that pirates and cats use
north umbra
diodes are the grey animals with the horn
grand pumice
evil spirit
north umbra
grand pumice
crystalline carbon
north umbra
obtaining files online
grand pumice
cut trees
north umbra
train tracks
grand pumice
white dogs with black spots
north umbra
1.9 easy demon
blissful scaffold
~~chat gpt joker~~
AI Generated Joker, which is the basic ass Joker but worse
digital sphinx
AI Generated Joker, which is the basic ass Joker but worse
the joker functions by asking chatgpt to generate some code for a balatro joker and it will attempt to use that
potentially good but likely nonfunctional and will definitely crash the game
dull flicker
Reminds me of an AI Joker effect I was talking to someone once about.
If you could choose which Joker, it could be a counterpart to Invisible Joker
loud perch
hmm
i was thinking "technology" more in the sense of like
"magitech" or "alien" tech
digital sphinx
ngl I'm thinking of the vibes of ancient portal from btd6
loud perch
yeah something like that
or like the fortnite cube runes
or the RoR2 solus constructs
(i might actually have to wait until Alloyed Collective in order to get more ideas from that stuff)
digital sphinx
[[REDACTED]] tomorrow
jolly drift
digital sphinx
no
west lake
Oblivious Fortnite cube flesh creature
loud perch
my singing monsters type shit
broken jasper
"magitech" or "alien" tech
ARCANE
but actually it really good examples of it that fit the oblivion style
upbeat widget
r
digital sphinx
our blivion
inner birch
obligation
echo marsh
we need
sterile canyon
olliliol
inner birch
Elder Scrolls 4 : Oblivion [WIP/No Demo] (/j)
west lake
loud perch
no context
blissful scaffold
hexaaaaaa when are we getting oblimvion sneak peek
we are STARVING hexa PLEASE
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hexaaaaaa when are we getting oblimvion sneak peek
Hi I am dev 100% official and I can say NEVER ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ real verified
inner birch
But, does ice really not melting or we are oblivious to the fact? /j
loud perch
fuck it, alliteration
dull flicker
Here are some ideas for names for the other decks if you want them:
Green-eyed Grievance
Magic-made Mannequin
Neutralizing Nebula
Zenith Zodiac
Painter's Palette
Anticipated Anaglyph
Poignant Plasma
loud perch
Here are some ideas for names for the other decks if you want them:
Green-eyed G...
these are achievement names, but sure, i'll take anticipated anaglyphs
loud perch
OH SWEET MERCIFUL CHRIST
i had never gotten bull or bootstraps on corrupt yellow yet
unless you have absolutely unholy econ, ante 21 will destroy you on corrupt yellow
loud perch
why does this shit always happen when im playtesting
WHAT THE FUCK
THE BARON MIME PHOTOCHAD PMO RED SEAL STEEL ACE PERKANNON
loud perch
loud perch
๐๏ธ
Eyes of the Storm [Cryptid] (Corrupted from Membership Card)
- +^0.01 Mult for every ๐๏ธ emote sent in the Hexa's Balatroverse #iseeyou channel
^ probably might happen
membership card is the only cryptid legendary that won't corrupt into W.D. Gaster
west lake
Another corrupted abstract card concept: Cement Cards. (Not just a concrete pun this time)
Has its own unique rank and suit and provides a powerful bonus to score, but has a permanent downside like taking away some amount of money each round. The enhancement cannot be overridden and cards with it cannot be removed from the deck. This is not only a pun on concrete (similar to cement) being the opposite of abstract, but also a reference to The Gaslight District and how it involves ||immortality and a cruel alternative to death just like TADC||. Thanks to @dull flicker for partially giving me the idea to do that.
north umbra
**Eyes of the Storm** `[Cryptid]` (Corrupted from Membership Card)
- +^0.01 Mult...
is this a private server or smth
digital sphinx
oblivioncord
loud perch
we (and by we i mean oinite) invented new contexts
north umbra
oblivioncord
how would i access this perchance (or does that fall under advetising rules)
digital sphinx
whenever hexa deems it ready for the public
loud perch
^
loud perch
This god-forsaken deck is like fighting the fucking Roaring Knight every blind
....
what are you planning you sick fuck
okay now it's just taunting me, something's gonna happen
okay nothing happened the game decided it liked me today
loud perch
oh yeah btw
oblivion pre-alpha soon
like, really soon
not the "demo", just a pre-alpha i'm sharing only in this thread
which will be updated frequently with new features as we build up to the demo
loud perch
loud perch
had a joker thought
alright now to actually get a migraine to translate my migraine auras into art
brb gonna stare at a strobe light while eating nitrate heavy food
loud perch
the who
exotic oxide
vocaloid (but not really fully vocaloid) character
its vocaloid but unofficial
whatever I just thought abt it cuz headaches/migraines
upbeat widget
This god-forsaken deck is like fighting the fucking Roaring Knight every blind
ive been spending the past several minutes mindlessly restarting my runs... just to see the auto-spectral in action
and not even to bug-fix
loud perch
ive been spending the past several minutes mindlessly restarting my runs... just...
its so cool
loud perch
Oblivion [PRE-ALPHA]
digital sphinx
oblivion today
loud perch
oblivion in the next like 10 minutes or so
Oblivion is finally ready for pre-alpha testing!
What's yet to come before official beta:
- Discord setup
- More Corrupted Jokers
- More regular Jokers
- The rest of the Optic-twisted modifications (currently only twists glass, gold, steel, and wild)
- A few more Corrupt Decks
- A few more Corrupt Challenges
- Art and balancing tune-ups
- Crossmod (Cryptid most priority rn)
- Achievements and unlock conditions for Corrupt Decks
Please enjoy what is here in the meantime. Have fun! And remember...
i see you 
loud perch
# Oblivion is finally ready for pre-alpha testing!
**What's yet to come before ...
@here oblivion now
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obliteration real
boreal dome
YES
digital sphinx
I will when I get a chance
loud perch
๐
loud perch
One thing I ask is that you keep Oblivion discussion out of the main Balatro server
until the beta
mossy gale
why?
loud perch
cuz this alpha build is exclusive to here
mossy gale
huh
loud perch
i dont want the general public playing something unfinished yknow
if that makes sense
mossy gale
yea
upbeat widget
i should probably write on the readme that it's a pre-alpha
upbeat widget
done
tardy sage
i should probably write on the readme that it's a pre-alpha
i think you can mark a release as a pre alpha too
dull flicker
I definetly have to agree that the corrupt ghost deck is cool as heck
tardy sage
or prerelease i guess but that's more or less the same thing
dull flicker
Potential bug on corrupt ghost deck. It may be because I was using other mods like Handy, but my card selection size kept getting bigger and bigger.
loud perch
oh boy here we fucking go
c.ghost overrides card selections while it does its thing. potentially doing something fucky with selection amount numbers or smth
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FUCK i just remembered i forgot to fix oblivion consumable
plush jackal
Crash on boot.
loud perch
uh
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Fix pushed
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FUCK i just remembered i forgot to fix oblivion consumable
fixed
dull flicker
This hand caused the following crash.
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t*lisman...
dull flicker
Gotcha. Should I keep it on to find similar issues for you guys?
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perhaps, yeah
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Potential bug on corrupt ghost deck. It may be because I was using other mods li...
confirmed to occur on oblivion-only
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Potential bug on corrupt ghost deck. It may be because I was using other mods li...
Fixed; caused by leftover code from former selection disabling system
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This hand caused the following crash.
this should be fixed
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well thank god today's bugs didn't require total rewrites lol
loud perch
well jump in and enjoy the ride
deft gull
i have like 40 other mods hope it wont crash lol
loud perch
good luck lmao
deft gull
yk what screw it im gonna stream it ive got nothing better to do
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i have like 40 other mods hope it wont crash lol
i will not respond to bug reports /j
i'll hop on to watch in a bit
dull flicker
I don't know why oblivion would be the cause of it, but I got a crash trying to convert suits. Probably a talisman thing? Having trouble trying to repeat it to determine how and why.
loud perch
oh what the fuck
this is trying to do something with Instability even tho youre not on corrupt plasma
dull flicker
I was playing that deck earlier. I think the effect carried over somehow?
loud perch
oh shit
dull flicker
That would explain why I couldnt repeat it
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Should be fixed
dull flicker
This is simply an opinion. I think Parallel Joker could have a "better" effect. When I see unconditional +chips, I think of the Jester from ortalab. I know mods can share ideas, but I have a thought for an alt. What if it instead gave +2 mult for each played card unconditionally? I don't think I have seen a Joker give +mult like that yet.
loud perch
maybeee
deft gull
This is simply an opinion. I think Parallel Joker could have a "better" effect. ...
tldr joker
tho i think thats +1 for every hand played, hand in card, and joker
also the description is utterly useless since its too long and doesnt explain anything so
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also the description is utterly useless since its too long and doesnt explain an...
Wdym useless you need context abt the history of poker before understanding how the joker works
deft gull
true
crisp grail
# Oblivion is finally ready for pre-alpha testing!
**What's yet to come before ...
Yay
Can't try it out now
digital sphinx
I'll stream obibon here in like 20 minutes
digital sphinx
nvm it might be another hour
loud perch
oblibion
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oblivion alpha when this thread reaches 2,763 messages (real) ((dont count on it...
@loud perch 129 128 messages left, what do we do
loud perch
idk we need to release the alpha
uhh tell you what, when we reach that number let's go back in time and drop the pre-alpha
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alright, sounds like a plan
dull flicker
Another opinion: I think the misama edition should be called miasmic
loud perch
Sounds good
digital sphinx
streaming mod now
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@loud perch what if debuffed cards were given more points by c-ghost deck
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i still need to figure out how to do the "detect if card's rank/suit is targetted by jokers" thing
digital sphinx
corrupt world done
loud perch
nice
somber sierra
bit of a gripe on how the corrupt plasma deck's instabillity works
it only gives the +0.025 for when you use the perception tarot to turn cards to optics
shouldn't it also increase if you convert a card with death, or obtain one from a standard pack?
loud perch
That's how it should be yeah; it even says so in the Instability tooltip
Just never got around to adding that fully yet, will be there soon
deft gull
so is the corrupt yellow crash fixed yet
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which one was that again
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bit of a gripe on how the corrupt plasma deck's instabillity works
it only gives...
This has been implemented
blissful scaffold
# Oblivion is finally ready for pre-alpha testing!
**What's yet to come before ...
It's beautiful...
dull flicker
On Talisman, I couldn't start a new run from the game over screen. Had fuck it we ball. Was also running cryptid if that matters.
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Unable to replicate it, can you please send a crash log? @dull flicker
dull flicker
It wasn't a crash; it just kept bringing up the game over screen when clicking new run after losing with ball. Installed mods were as follows:
Will see if I can try to help identify the source
Its Galdur
I assume it's the way it changes how menus work
1.2 is the latest relase
When clicking new run, the console is filled with "Found effect table with no repetitions during repetition check"
broken jasper
error in this description
the longer play the worse the frame rate gets...
memory leak?
smeared joker makes it impossible to play spectrums
walkies talkie doesnt have the corruption potental info
it faded too fast, but upgradng spectrum through orbital tag shows the hand beng upgraded as "ovn_spectrum"
spectrum baseball joker
(on optics deck)
and its over...
digital sphinx
royal spectrum
wild card disables spectrum even if hand would have been a spectrum without wild
base joker does not wiggle when holding the abyss
digital sphinx
eternal johnblivion
if optics are debuffed, spectrum is invalid
nvm its being overriden by 4OAK
close to gold stake win but not quite
ok so miasma on playing cards should make it more clear that using them will turn them into optics and not destroy them
digital sphinx
there we go, gold stake ocular deck
no, the 52 card deck isn't a bug, I just removed that many cards
digital sphinx
out of the twisted enhancements currently implemented, coordinate card is my favorite
loud perch
smeared joker makes it impossible to play spectrums
well i mean.
yeah.
you only have 3 suits in that hand
loud perch
there we go, gold stake ocular deck
now do this with only optics in your deck
(this will be an unlock condition later)
digital sphinx
I don't see how that's doable without ovn adding something that lets you convert large portions of your deck into optics
broken jasper
you only have 3 suits in that hand
I thought it would work like wilds lol
crisp grail
What does miasma do again?
I need to try this mod out
Yesterday I was working on an edition for a bit too long
grand pumice
obibon
digital sphinx
What does miasma do again?
On Jokers: retrigger 3 times, then corrupt itself. If corrupted or has no corruption, destroy it instead of converting
On cards: Retrigger 3 times, then convert to Optics. If on Optics, then destroy it instead of converting
crisp grail
Does the corruption keep the edition
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Sorry for reaction spam btw; just need to keep track of bugs
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the longer play the worse the frame rate gets...
oh god
how do i even go about resolving this..
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base joker does not wiggle when holding the abyss
Is this happening to a specific Joker, or all corruptible Jokers?
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ok so miasma on playing cards should make it more clear that using them will tur...
Good point; I initially figured that corruption on playing cards implies that Optics are corrupted suits, but we can clarify that if needed
digital sphinx
Is this happening to a specific Joker, or all corruptible Jokers?
all corruptible
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Huh
one sec i'll double check
also new commit fixes bugs marked as โ
โ have yet to be resolved
Thanks yall for the bug reports btw, puts my mind at ease lol
broken jasper
how do i even go about resolving this..
Oh by the way update on that, the frame loss comes and goes so its actually maybe not a memory leak
It must be a really big performance hit because i normally get 100+ frame rate
digital sphinx
Had a thought
Noita could probably be a good crossover for for an optics face card skin
Lots of purple, plus themes of magic and technology
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It must be a really big performance hit because i normally get 100+ frame rate
That's still a concern
loud perch
Had a thought
Noita could probably be a good crossover for for an optics face ca...
I need two more then
decided to revise the list of crossovers
currently Noita and RoR2
hmm
i wonder if there can also be an additional skin for each other suit here too
just for fun
Spades: DELTARUNE
Hearts: ULTRAKILL
Clubs: Peglin
Diamonds: Elden Ring
oh wait shit optics need SIX skins right
actually 7 if these bonus skins happen
actually fuck it, the optics skins can be whatever the fuck they want
they dont have to be super technological and abyss oriented because itd take fucking forever to come up with those
so screw it, super meat boy: meat boy for king, bandage girl for queen, dr fetus for jack
half-tempted to do fucking 4D Golf
Nova Drift is an obvious must-have too
loud perch
half-tempted to do fucking 4D Golf
this one would depict various locations in the game for the face cards
i only want to do this because of the bigass eye mf in the Beyond
broken jasper
they dont *have* to be super technological and abyss oriented because itd take f...
Rain World
broken jasper
Feed the Deep
Oh wait i know a perfect one
Mindwave
How does this not SCREAM optics?
loud perch
Oh it absolutely does
Super Meat Boy is kind of a shitpost suggestion so if someone can find a replacement for that then we'll be done
Subnautica??
Okay yeah Subnautica
loud perch
- Risk of Rain 2
- Noita
- Nova Drift
- Rain World
- 4D Golf
- Mindwave
- Subnautica
if anyone wants to start doing the art, you may
broken jasper
Hyper Light Drifter
This also screams optics
Could replace 4d golf since that one is kinda weird
loud perch
not enough room 
loud perch
Could replace 4d golf since that one is kinda weird
and potion craft isn't?
and critical role isn't?
broken jasper
and potion craft isn't?
Potion craft has characters
4d golf doesnt have a single character design
broken jasper
Thats IT
loud perch
lmfao
slender sequoia
you should go through my steam games to see if you can find some stuff
loud perch
that one was also kinda halfway shitpost tbf
slender sequoia
i have a ton of games in there
loud perch
Hyper Light Drifter sounds good
broken jasper
I just realized that the furry in your pfp is no longer ASCENDED
loud perch
yup
digital sphinx
Once I play with all the new jokers and the twisted enhancements I'll make a tierlist
Ironically, ocular deck makes it very difficult to try the optic enhancements since the deck is so bloated
loud perch
starting on the Nova Drift deck skin
loud perch
stobliar eaviotern
loud perch
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wild card disables spectrum even if hand would have been a spectrum without wild
fixed
digital sphinx
These look sick
broken jasper
finishing nova drift crossover art before the actual card art
i respect
priorities
loud perch
frfr
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I should have done this a while ago, but the following shop prices (most of which are really just placeholders than anything) have been changed (per Hexa's note on making their costs around, if not a little more expensive than their non-corrupt counterparts)
- Lucas Series - 11 -> 7
- Prosopometamorphopsia - 4 -> 7
- THE SHOW NEVER ENDS - 4 -> 8
- Airstrike - 4 -> 6
- Bombastic Joker - 4 -> 5
- Insightful Joker - 4 -> 5
- The Breach - 4 -> 9
- Theoretical Cultivar - 4 -> 7
- A Part Falling - 4 -> 8
- Aeon Cavendish - 4 -> 8
Realistically though you likely won't ever be buying these Jokers at these prices so nothing too big should change
loud perch
You will on Abyssal Deck but that's way down the line
actually no because Call of the Void
some more cheevos
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loud perch
the first batch of deck trials is out now
anything blue here is now ready to be achieved in-game
i will say that these trials are hard
slender sequoia
@loud perch if you need help with joker, enhancement, or consumable code just ping me
west lake
anything blue here is now ready to be achieved in-game
Red Rum and especially Groundless Greenery seem too RNG-dependent, requiring you to get a specific thing to complete. The others are completely fine, though.
loud perch
this is what chimeric (dev of nova drift) said when i showed off the nova drift face card skins in nd discord O_O
slender sequoia
huh
digital sphinx
should erratic deck include optics when it randomizes the suits
loud perch
does it currently?
digital sphinx
no
that or I got unrealistically unlucky
also perception costs 2 despite all other tarots costing 3
selling yolo after it sets hands to -nan will still have -nan persist
this also gives you infinite hands from the looks of it
ok seems to be a problem with corrupt blue deck specifically
yea only happens on corrupt blue
digital sphinx
also this is probably intended but yolo does not interact with dusk in any way
loud perch
galdur
loud perch
also perception costs 2 despite all other tarots costing 3
feck
digital sphinx
Deck idea since there's currently no real consistent way to get optics and corruptions in normal play
Ominous Deck
- Start with Wicked Invocation voucher
- Start with an Abyss and a Perception
and also
Corrupt Ominous Deck
- When a Joker is sold, add Miasma to a random held Joker
- When cards are discarded, add Miasma to them
loud perch
Deck idea since there's currently no real consistent way to get optics and corru...
i would accept this but this concept is already gonna be done for Abyssal Deck
you might need to wait a while tho because Abyssal Deck is also the superboss deck
digital sphinx
mkay
loud perch
could have Stygian Tags appear earlier and a bit more frequently maybe
stygian tags are the best way to get corrupted jokers
digital sphinx
also imo perception should be buffed to 3 cards
loud perch
yknow what yeah
i wonder
...
should there be a wicked pack equivalent for standard packs
eh, probably not
cuz like
optics are considered to be in the pool when you have one
digital sphinx
you can already get optics in standard packs so
loud perch
yeah
i do think there could be an easier way to get optics in normal play tho, maybe Wicked Invocation also makes it more likely to get Perception in arcana packs
digital sphinx
maybe there could be a common joker that allows you to get more suit changers
Joker that gives you a random suit changer tarot when playing a flush maybe
loud perch
Prism (Common)
- Suit-changing Tarot cards are twice as likely to appear
Blacklight (Corrupted from Prism)
- Perception replaces all suit-changing Tarot cards
hows that
digital sphinx
I think blacklight was going to be a mutation effect but other than that looks good
digital sphinx
yea makes sense
digital sphinx
Mystic (Common)
- If discarded hand contains at least 4 suits, convert any duplicate suits into Optics
loud perch
oo
digital sphinx
Heretic (Corrupted from Mystic)
- If discarded hand contains only Enhanced cards, convert them to Optics
loud perch
Prism
loud perch
Blacklight
loud perch
Migraine (Corrupted from Hallucination)
- Standard Packs only contain modified Optics
loud perch
Database
loud perch
Cigarette Card
loud perch
hmmm
Trolley Problem (Uncommon/Rare?)
- Unscoring cards in "of a Kind" hands are destroyed
Bottled Ship of Theseus (Corrupted from Trolley Problem)
- When a non-Glass card is destroyed, create a Glass Card of its rank and suit
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**Trolley Problem** (Uncommon/Rare?)
- Unscoring cards in "of a Kind" hands are ...
Trolly problem seems like a fun Joker! Probably would be rare since a similar card: Hunting season limits you to small hands and ruins three of a kind builds
loud perch
Purifier (Uncommon)
- When Blind is selected, the leftmost Corrupted Joker is purified to give this card +10 Mult.
Nexus Point (Corrupted from Purifier/Nexus Point)
- This Joker can be repeatedly corrupted
- Scored cards give X1.1 Mult. Increases by +X0.2 each time this Joker is corrupted from Nexus Point.
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**Trolley Problem** (Uncommon/Rare?)
- Unscoring cards in "of a Kind" hands are ...
Also, possible alt name for Ship of Theseus: Theseus in a bottle
loud perch
**Purifier** (Uncommon)
- When Blind is selected, the leftmost Corrupted Joker i...
do we like
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do we like
Purifier seems fair. While hard to use at the start, once you collect the vouchers, it seems like a solid mult source. It might still be less reliable than dagger though, even if you can keep the sell value of the cards bought just to purify.
Nexus Point seems good! Even to the point where you might resolve all corruption opportunities for it. Defiently a card I would gravitate to.
I was thinking about Nexus Point and I realise that a similar effect could be done to make a unique food joker. You know something like:
Dark Chalice
Gives unconditional effect for 10 hands. Can be "refilled" by corrupting it
loud perch
Idea:
If the player has another mod that adds Spectrums... instead of overriding Spectrum implementation, Oblivion treats its implementation as a different kind of Spectrum entirely
Oblivion would then change its Spectrum related stuff to specify that it must contain an Optic to count as a Spectrum-O
faint crater
Bottled Ship of Theseus
Not Ship of Theseus in a bottle, Theseus in a bottle.
Miniaturized
And banging on the glass
loud perch
kek
digital sphinx
as expected, attempting corrupt plasma deck in its current state is nigh impossible
perkeo is pretty much required in order to appease the instability with abyss/perception
dark hemlock
what would this eye tree be corrupted from
Don't know if anyone's said this, but Pareidolia
digital sphinx
pareidolia already has a corruption
forgor how to spell it but it makes face card jokers target aces
prosopometamorphopsia
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added edge of a collapsing world
i went through hell trying to do the pushing of the commit itself
grim axle
just beat the game with corrupt red deck, it was absolutely awesometastic
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Sheet note: added a column for which mechanics need to be implemented before Jokers can be added
Self-note: change corruption former form to reside in card.config instead of the extras table
loud perch
and if you designed it to be annoying you failed, this one was actually fun
its not supposed to be annoying
its supposed to be challenging
grim axle
its supposed to be challenging
well you failed on that too
it was easier
than red deck
lol
grim axle
yeah probs
but still needs to be harder than that
like -1 discard selection
wait thats still too easy
actually it should be fine
digital sphinx
game crash when attempting to start corrupt plasma deck
loud perch
oh dear
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added master of puppets
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game crash when attempting to start corrupt plasma deck
an update to smods causes this crash, not sure what changed but i'll take a look
not sure if i want to make the change tho considering player usage of dev smods is now unrecommended
...oh fuck
/pos
loud perch
?
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i have to watch my tongue and contain my excitement but holy fuck
tl;dr "fuck you, chip x mult ui is now easier to hook" -smods
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latest smods dev?
loud perch
uhhh i think release actually
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hmm, okay
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i have to watch my tongue and contain my excitement but holy fuck
https://github.com/Steamodded/Wiki/blob/d5ec3972bb88764765dc7348ba719bde31b5c3c5/SMODS.Operator.md OK NVM IG CODE-CLEANUP 100 this is not happening, replaced with something that gives much greater control
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game crash when attempting to start corrupt plasma deck
Fix for this will be a fork branch until SMODS updates with score UI API update
loud perch
miasma certificate goes hard as fuck
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i just found another bug
were you trying to store a rare joker
otherwise it does seem to be working fine @loud perch
loud perch
yeah i wanted to store my wee
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fixed
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~~https://github.com/Steamodded/Wiki/blob/d5ec3972bb88764765dc7348ba719bde31b5c3...
ok i looked closer into it, this system is not happening, instead something that allows for much greater control is happening
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thoughts about operator api:
- ui hooks are fucking awesome
- scoring parameters are incompatible with "permanent values" like glop or instability ("current" parameter is highly subject to a bunch of changes, and then something about hand upgrades), which holds me back from fully using this api for oblivion
will try to better word this tomorrow
Overall very promising system, just the "perma values" thing leaves something to be desired
And I fear what the community will come up with this
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What i have going for instability is an operator of the form (chips*mult)^instability where instability is not a scoring parameter but instead an independent value accessed only through the operator
It has to be independent because scoring parameters are highly subject to several events, so it's not appropriate for implementing instability
The operator, however, implies the ability to activate instability outside of Corrupt Plasma Deck - there's no need to nor way to, but I went ahead anyways and slightly reworked the instability value so that it's always defined, thus allowing it to be increased if active
loud perch
speaking of instability
getting optics from standard packs doesnt increment it
Last Meal (Corrupted from Ramen)
- +X0.15 Mult every discard used, for the next 20(15?) discards
- When this Joker expires, game over
this corrupt challenge is now ready to be made
loud perch
arc of WHAT blasts
loud perch
fiber WHAT
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You would not believe the name of a certain branch of physics
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game crash when attempting to start corrupt plasma deck
A fix for this has been made on the newly established BetterInstability branch - https://github.com/hexacryonic/Oblivion/tree/BetterInstability
This branch makes use of the new Operator API that grossly simplifies modifying the chipsXmult UI and allows adding custom scoring parameters and operators
(specifically it only works on latest SMODS dev, not latest SMODS release)
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getting optics from standard packs doesnt increment it
fixed
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ovn real
...oh right, it's impossible to buy rn b/c 99999 lmao
and hexa isnt here to give cost amount :3
actually i can probably deduce the cost based on the rarity, one sec
done
loud perch
i can put costs on doc rq
also, new Parallel Joker effect
- Cards each give +1 Mult when scored
Value changes:
Infinitesimal Joker: +3 per -> +2 per
Database: 20 -> 10
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- Cards each give +1 Mult when scored
this change has been pushed, though i can't help but feel it's too weak and doesn't make corrupting joker worthwhile (even tho it never is, since there are better jokers to corrupt :V)
feel free to tweak values on the repo
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Round* 32
crisp grail
i need to cap instability at 2
Is this deck out yet or not
I want play corrupt plasma
I wanna play Bose Einstein deck
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Is this deck out yet or not
It's been out for a while now
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I wanna play Bose Einstein deck
Bose-Einstein Deck
Chips, Mult, Hands, Discards, hand size, Joker slots, and consumable slots are all balanced after scoring
crisp grail
Imagine if there was a deck that made money contribute to scoring, like, you guessed it, a 3rd multiplier
You'd still have your money though
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It actually wouldn't be too bad to implement with latest SMODS dev
loud perch
there is now a fourth wicked pack sprite
inner birch
I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 
loud perch
CRAAAAWLING IIIIN MY SKIIIIN
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NOTE: I've added a new Joker, "Nexus Point", where it has changing XMult; however, there is currently a bug where the description does not change to reflect changing XMult. This is a visual bug and the Joker continues to work as intended
digital sphinx
Not sure how I feel about pure/corrupt visage
It's only purpose is to synergize with A Part Falling and corrupt plasma deck, which massively boosts both of their scaling
loud perch
Not sure how I feel about pure/corrupt visage
It's only purpose is to synergize ...
Might rework in the future, but it was also intended to be used with indigo seals
feel free to suggest any ideas
loud perch
Alright here's an idea
Pure Visage
- In 2 rounds, click side button to Corrupt
Corrupt Visage
- X3 Mult, Purifies at end of round
@digital sphinx
or something like this
digital sphinx
perhaps, I like the idea of having emergency mult on hand
loud perch
I knew storing that S&B the hand before I died last run would be a good idea
digital sphinx
just gotta farm econ like your life depends on it
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this has been fixed
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Fuck It, We Ball should no longer prevent new runs from starting with Galdur enabled
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yall idk how to go about sludge
i have something for making held cards score, but it's continuing to make played cards score
and generally navigating through the main scoring code is just
๐ฅ
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New SMODS release is out; I'm gonna try to push BetterInstability over to main branch