#Oblivion [OPENING ACT]

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grand pumice
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a+bi not ai+b

loud perch
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sorry i am Stupid

grand pumice
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nah it's fine, thats just the general syntax convention

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but you can have it the other way around, nothing's stopping you

loud perch
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b'yeah are we liking the idea for Corrupt Green

rotund ivy
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its very fun

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i assume youre checking size by making sure the complex component and real component must be bigger

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so you cant afford 2 + 1i if you have -20 + 10i dollars

loud perch
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yeah, internally it'll be two separate currencies

rotund ivy
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awesome

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i love it

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you could probably get econ working for the complex part too if you wanted to btw it just might take a few lovely patches / hooks

loud perch
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no, that would ruin the point

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the idea is that the complex part HAS no econ

rotund ivy
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didnt know if thats what you wanted or not

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but i wanted to say it would be possible

loud perch
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it only comes from discards

rotund ivy
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how are the complex parts of shop prices determined btw

loud perch
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by moving a third of the base price to the complex component, rounded

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so theyre cheaper in real dollars, but you need to cough up some imaginary money too

loud perch
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hmm

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yknow what i'm realizing

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at least one corrupted deck has corrupted several game concepts

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C. Green corrupts money

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C. Red corrupts discards

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C. Plasma corrupts scoring

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it makes sense that C. Blue should corrupt hands somehow

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C. Black should "corrupt" the idea of joker slots

grand pumice
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hands left vs hand size

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playing hands reduces hand size

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increasing hand size gives more hands

loud perch
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i was actually thinking hands and discards would be combined into a single resource

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for C-Blue

grand pumice
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Red deck doe

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what is the corrupted red deck again exactly?

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discards are red deck's thing

loud perch
grand pumice
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i see

loud perch
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it's discard mania

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so C-Blue should be hand mania

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...oh god

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Hands, Discards, and hand size are a single resource

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that starts at 12 each round

grand pumice
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naw dont bring discards into this

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Hand size and Hands left are the same resource is good enough

loud perch
# loud perch

well yeah but in C.Red, hands interact with the idea of discarding

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so in C.Blue, discards should interact with the idea of playing hands

grand pumice
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hmh

loud perch
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hence combining them all into a single resource

grand pumice
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Corrupt Nostalgic deck

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Hands, Discards, Hand Size, Joker Slots, Consumable Slots and Money are all the same resource

loud perch
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good fucking god

grand pumice
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whabbout C Nebula

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would it have no consumable slots?

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-99 consumable slots
Start with Observatory
(real)

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Echo Chamber from Isaac:

grand pumice
loud perch
grand pumice
loud perch
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what is echo chamber

loud perch
grand pumice
loud perch
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coding hell

grand pumice
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just make a table where you keep most recent consumables

loud perch
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also no

grand pumice
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waow

loud perch
grand pumice
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not a big fan

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just any 5 from collection?

loud perch
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i wanted to do a sort of draft thing

grand pumice
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Photograph, Hanging Chad, Blueprint, and then prolly like Lucky Cat and All6

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and then what

dull flicker
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Maybe have it be a point system? Have so many points and each rarity cost a different point amount?

rotund ivy
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i was just about to suggest that

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i was actually just typing that

grand pumice
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im getting 4 photographs and 4 chads

loud perch
grand pumice
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increase the joker amount, to the actual 6 or maybe 7 since its sort of an upgrade

rotund ivy
# rotund ivy i was actually just typing that

replace joker slots with points at the start of the run pick jokers from a random selection thats guaranteed to contain atleast some rares and uncommons, each rarity costs a certain amount of points, jokers cant be removed

grand pumice
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why keep -1 hand but remove +1 joker slot

loud perch
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cuz you get the freedom of choice

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but i see

rotund ivy
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idk what youd want to do with unspent points here they could carry over and shop jokers also cost points but that sort of defeats the purpose you could just do nothing also

dull flicker
# loud perch

I misread the -1 hand originally. I thought you started off with one hand to balance starting with potentially op jokers.

rotund ivy
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the balancing isnt that bad if the selection of jokers is random but always contains some rares and uncommons unless you get super lucky which is the case anyway

loud perch
dull flicker
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I imagine in cryptid compat epics would cost 5

loud perch
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yea

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legendaries and exotics just Do Not

rotund ivy
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you could have legendaries show up with a 1% chance that cost the same amount as epics or rares too, you dont want to have to spend more points to get legendaries when they are already super rare

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depends what you want

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1% chance as in 1% in total not 1% for each of the 10 jokers

loud perch
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i think i'll just make legendaries impossible trol

dull flicker
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Thats fair

rotund ivy
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i mean thats fine also it just depends what you actually wanna do

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no legendaries is just another potential tradeoff for starting really powerful

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since this is also a good econ deck now

loud perch
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mhm

rotund ivy
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rerolls are free here right, i was gonna suggest having uncapped rerolls but having it cost 1 point but i forgot there was already an idea for rerolling

loud perch
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rerolls are free yes

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separate system from shops

rotund ivy
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ye

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sounds fun unlike regular black deck

loud perch
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thats the idea behind corrupt decks

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make them fun in their own insane ways

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i mean hell look at these ones lmao

gaunt abyss
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how far is this mod?

loud perch
gaunt abyss
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lol

loud perch
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i want like 3 pages of corrupted jokers before i do a first alpha

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and i want all the optics related stuff

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and at least 5 corrupt decks

gaunt abyss
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getting exited

loud perch
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corrupt plasma deck is confirmed for first alpha, since i have its code already done

rotund ivy
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if you want actual ideas for erratic deck i have a few things that could be useful that i did for entropy

loud perch
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what you see there is what it is

rotund ivy
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lol

loud perch
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no

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that's too orderly

grand pumice
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C Erratic

loud perch
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if it happens to all the text in the game

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this is what i mean

dull flicker
rotund ivy
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since when did youtube on discord have ads

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wtf

dull flicker
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If possible, can you add a section to the spreadsheet to indicate if an item has art or not?

loud perch
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anything orange

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actually except edge of a collapsing world and sludge

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i forgor

dull flicker
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Gotcha

dull flicker
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I'll try master of puppets

west lake
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This is a little late, but here's a simple idea for corrupted black deck:
+4 joker slots. Uncommon jokers take up 1 extra slot. Rare and above jokers take up 2 extra slots.

dull flicker
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Still needs alot of work but this is roughly what I was thinking for Master of Puppets

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Also, why is Master of Puppets just limited to common, uncommon, and rare jokers? Why can't we have the legendary play of selling a legendary to get a red seal on a steal king?

crisp grail
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m

dull flicker
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Why not?

loud perch
# dull flicker

i was thinking itd be more like the titular album cover (metallica)

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good start tho

dull flicker
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Is hit the road based on an albumn cover for hit the road, jack? I havent seen it if it is.

loud perch
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idk actually but i was thinking it would

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either way if you dont know how to incorporate it, i'll take what's here, it's gud

dull flicker
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I'll see what I can do

loud perch
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guys

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i think i made probably my favorite corrupt deck concept yet

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let's say the blind pulls Medium, and your opening hand has a steel king you'd want a red seal on

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too bad, that's a purple seal now

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you'd better keep ankh and hex in your inventory because if the blind pulls one of those and you don't counter it, good luck

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@elder sage i might need your help coding the AI for this one

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ideally it should be pretty dickish with the seals in particular

elder sage
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interesting

loud perch
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violet vessel somehow rolls soul
chicot
gets disabled

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blind some-fucking-how rolls gateway

loud perch
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so

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Anaglyph Deck is all about tags

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corrupt anaglyph deck gives you all the tags you will ever see in the A8 run... at a price

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info hidden past this point*

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you now need to fucking remember which boss blinds appeared in what ante

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but at least you have a lot of tags lol

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actually making it so you get 2 of each tag in the initial phase

loud perch
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alright so every corrupt deck is gonna require some kind of lovely patching but which one is the least hell to implement out of the ones i have

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actually, Yellow probably won't need patching at all

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ok yeah it won't

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thats my next target

rotund ivy
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you should do green soon too since it will unironically be pretty easy, most of the patches will be for the money ui and graying out the buy buttons

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despite how silly it is (positive) it is probably not gonna be too hard to code

loud perch
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good idea

rotund ivy
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im pretty sure youll only need 3 patches

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4 actually

loud perch
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all i really need to do is keep track of a new resource (which i have already done with Instability on C-Plasma)

rotund ivy
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1 for the money ui on the side, one for graying out the buttons, 1 for setting the price/price text for shop items and 1 for checking if it can actually be bought

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all pretty easy too

loud perch
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mind helping me out with that? working in parallel while i get C-Yellow working

rotund ivy
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yeah i mean i could probably get it fully working in like an hour

rotund ivy
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progress

rotund ivy
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hit a weird roadblock ill try again later

loud perch
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meanwhile on my end

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i made hands and discards be always set to their cost

rotund ivy
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i was running into a weird bug where the amount of money you gained was just not right no matter what but it was also not right by different amounts each time

loud perch
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oh thats not good

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should i just make them give no money

rotund ivy
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yea

loud perch
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alright, c-yellow is completely functional

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now i need deck art

grand pumice
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how fucked is Burglar on C Blue

loud perch
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takes everything
gives 3

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fucking horrible lmao

grand pumice
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perfect

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Pot of Jokes on the other hand.....

crisp grail
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burglar killer

grand pumice
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Effarcire could technically not increase your Resource and just Overdraw everything

crisp grail
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finally another thing i found that makes burglar horrible alongside my beak guy

grand pumice
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wait holy fuck

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@loud perch

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C Blue, Negative Sleeve

crisp grail
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u o

loud perch
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oh good lord

loud perch
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fucked up and evil decks

loud perch
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you cant run from capitalism

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ante 8 costs

loud perch
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this is hell

elder sage
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lol

loud perch
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also as a side effect, garbage tags are just

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broken

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because of how i display the costs as their count

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they give an obscene amount of money

loud perch
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fun fact

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it takes until ante 3,173 for the cost per hand to reach infinity

loud perch
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i decided to make enhanced cards retrigger once instead

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btw i set joker slots to -math.huge :^)

dull flicker
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Very cool!

loud perch
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buffoon packs can still appear in the shop but uh

good luck grabbing one xD

grand pumice
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buffoon packs cost 4i/6i money

loud perch
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boowomp

loud perch
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im really loving corrupt painted deck's unique playstyle

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it was the better call to do retrigger instead of doubled values

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because of a hidden interaction with blue seals

mental mango
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How does this work with negative joker btw

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Like can you still take a negative joker regardless of card limits?

rotund ivy
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you shouldnt be able to but it might be broken with cryptid if they ever try to fix the overflowing issue they have

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since rn you cant take negative if your jokers are overflowing which is always true when the limit is -inf

loud perch
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"discard?"
"nah, datcard"

grand pumice
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them those cards ya kneow?

digital sphinx
loud perch
slender sequoia
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some food for thought as to not clog up space for tooltips

loud perch
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hmm

elder sage
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My thoughts would be to use hover tooltips for this

slender sequoia
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that would actually be smarter

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maybe also add a new color that servers a similar purpose as {C:attention}

elder sage
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There’s a color that’s like a C:attention gradient already in-game we can use

loud perch
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yes, PMO and Pareidolia make it so that ANY rank target is an ace target

grand pumice
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waow

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thats pretty cool

loud perch
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h e l p

digital sphinx
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how do odd todd and even steven react

dull flicker
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I haven't forgotten about Master of Puppets, I was just busy on a side quest. It's a bit messy, but I tried incorporating more elements from the album cover. Thoughts?

loud perch
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It definitely works

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I'll take it

digital sphinx
grand pumice
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i'd make is just -3/-4 in C Blue

digital sphinx
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honestly the deadliest boss blind might be The Psychic

grand pumice
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how???

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i'd say like Manacle or sth

digital sphinx
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once you drop below 5 hands then you can't score anything

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since hand size is too small

rotund ivy
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the needle is probably pretty bad for builds that arent high card centric

grand pumice
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oh fuck The Needle

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i forgoy about this one

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yeah thats fucked up fr

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actual Burglar utility on Cblue

rotund ivy
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burgular might not actually be that good depending on how it works

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you lose all discards but gain 3 hands

slender sequoia
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no it works well

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jokers take effect after the blind starts

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which is why chicot gets diabled by the pin

rotund ivy
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i dont get how thats relevant

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unless its for the needle specifically

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then yeah

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it really sucks outside the needle though so even considering the needle you have to take a downgrade just incase or find it just before the boss blind

slender sequoia
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well i was just saying in response to you saying "depending on how burgular works"

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didnt realize it did not send

grand pumice
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burglar solves regular Needle, it will also solve Needle on Cblue

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turn your Cblue resource from 1 to 3

rotund ivy
digital sphinx
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we need a better name for the shared hand/discard/handsize resource

grand pumice
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sfark

loud perch
grand pumice
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sfark

crisp grail
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What

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What

loud perch
crisp grail
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What's essence

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Is it a new multiplier /j

loud perch
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Essence is the shared resource for Hands, Discards, and hand size on Corrupt Blue Deck

crisp grail
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Does instability get balanced alongside chips and mult

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Or no

loud perch
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even then, only way you could get balancing in this scenario anyway is if you play Corrupt Plasma Deck with the Plasma Sleeve, or get Sync Catalyst while playing on Cryptid

digital sphinx
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Here's how I imagine the discription for C. Blue being

  • Hand, discards, and hand size are combined into Essence
  • Hand size is equal to Essence, hands and discards cost 1 Essence each
  • Earn $1 for every 2 Essence left over at end of round
  • All methods of increasing or decreasing hands, discards, or hand size increase or decrease Essence instead
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Also some modified boss blinds

  • The Needle: Hands cost 3 Essence each
  • The Water: Discards cost 3 Essence each
  • The Manacle: -1 Essence
loud perch
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sounds fair

crisp grail
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Sounds cool

digital sphinx
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C. Blue modified burglar

  • When Blind is selected, gain +3 Essence, but you can no longer discard
loud perch
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nah i think its funny to have burglar completely shit on you here

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so i can have a challenge tied to it

digital sphinx
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lmao

loud perch
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achievement*

digital sphinx
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Juggler, Drunkard, and Troubador will all have the same effect of net +1 essence, while Merry Andy will be +2

loud perch
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Who Invited Bro

  • Assemble a squad of Juggler, Drunkard, Troubadour, Merry Andy, and Burglar on Corrupt Blue Deck
digital sphinx
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Bro thinks he's on the team 💀

loud perch
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mark of ruby

blissful scaffold
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what does that do?

loud perch
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it's the twisted variant of the red seal

blissful scaffold
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eye sea

loud perch
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mark of citrine

loud perch
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The Nerve, The Purity, Stygian Sigil

crisp grail
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Blinds

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mmmmmmm

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I can't resist

digital sphinx
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curious how C. Blue will interact with Tungsten cards

crisp grail
exotic oxide
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hey, just wondering is there a download link for this mod? I didn't see any in the pins so I'm just curious

crisp grail
exotic oxide
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ah I see

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well the art is still really good so I'm looking forward to further updates on what y'all are doing

loud perch
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y'all? bloblul

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i'm one person

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occasionally outsourcing help

loud perch
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new C-Blue effect

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@rotund ivy

rotund ivy
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interesting

loud perch
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if you can get a one-shot build going then

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youre rollin

pliant mantle
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Idea for Corrupt Abandoned Deck:
Start the run as in Pure Abandoned Deck, -1 all hand levels (can go negative for this one) when Boss Blind is defeated, Planet Cards (but not Black Hole, that's a spectral) are retriggered

loud perch
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i dig that one

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also, started documenting these

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actually gonna call the medusa one Corrupt Gorgon

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this is awful

loud perch
loud perch
dull flicker
loud perch
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ty :3

grand pumice
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wo

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neat

loud perch
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C.Blue amazingly works first try

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oh god

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for context

loud perch
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welp this is brutal

crisp grail
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Wait no

digital sphinx
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all jokers that target face cards now only work on aces

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for example the business card in the challenge only works on aces now

rotund ivy
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how does this even work codewise btw does it just make aces count as king queen and jack and then face cards not count as anything

loud perch
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as well as that

rotund ivy
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makes sense

blissful scaffold
digital sphinx
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its a medical condition that distorts your face

loud perch
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no, it's a condition that alters your perception of faces

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making them appear distorted and oftentimes demonic

digital sphinx
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Idea for either a deck or challenge

  • Infinite consumable slots
  • Mult cannot exceed current # of held consumables
grand pumice
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dead round 1

dull flicker
loud perch
grand pumice
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colors :)

digital sphinx
loud perch
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oh thats

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huh

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it should start you with some perceptions

dull flicker
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Idea for spiral of addiction. What if, when you run out of discards, it spends a hand to give you 4 more?

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Indulging that addiction for discarding might kill ya.

loud perch
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👀

loud perch
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wait do i need to add spectrumfuck to this

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fucktrum

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Spectrum Fuck

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probably just a secret name for clusterfucks

loud perch
loud perch
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we also have optinen

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wait hold on i wanna make it so that it goes to naneinf by itself

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there we go

rotund ivy
# loud perch

i have to make a version of this hand that includes the nil set from entropy too

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84 card hand 😭

loud perch
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bro what the fuck

rotund ivy
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2-A + Nil of each suit which are Spades Clubs Hearts Diamonds Optics and Nil

loud perch
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5D The Entire Fucking Deck With Multiverse Time Travel

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actually shit that's a way better name

rotund ivy
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it would be so difficult to get this in an actual run outside of how rare optics are too

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the only way to get non Nil rank Nil suit cards is to get Nil of Nil cards and then change their rank but strength doesnt work on them so idk how youd even do that

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outside of Nil suit deck

loud perch
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perfection

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the name is so fucking long

rotund ivy
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also if i ever add inversed consumables support the name for the reverse planet for this hand will probably just be called "All" or something simple like that

loud perch
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just call it "Fuck You"

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and it's a star in the shape of the middle finger

rotund ivy
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i like the idea of it just literally being everything like its over theres nothing higher than this now your star card is everything that exists

loud perch
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Literally Fucking Everything That Exists

rotund ivy
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so peak

loud perch
rotund ivy
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ill do some hand related compat things for this mod at some point

rotund ivy
loud perch
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"this isn't even a bruh moment at this point, what the actual fuck is wrong with you"

rotund ivy
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i think you genuinely might need to play on the nil suit deck to even get this to be possible which means you need to reconstruct a regular 52 + optics deck from scratch and then 6 Nil of Nil cards 5 of which need to have their suits changed

loud perch
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this is a monstrosity

rotund ivy
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the suit and rank exist entirely as a downside for 1 singular reverse spectral card

loud perch
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in order to even viably get 5DFD, you need to play on the Ocular Deck and get Effarcire and a horrendously glitched/value manip'd Fractal Fingers

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the ocular deck, if you were curious

rotund ivy
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genuinely gonna need card sleeves to even be able to do that + a little extra

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idk if theres pure rank manip rn that doesnt depend on the existing rank

loud perch
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which is why i made this hand's base score go beyond naneinf

rotund ivy
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wait no variable exists

loud perch
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actually i might set it into the double-e's

rotund ivy
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its fine ill just almanac-style ban variable 🔥

loud perch
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should i set the base hand score into the double-e's

rotund ivy
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yes

loud perch
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alright here we fucking go, this is gonna be the longest fucking number ever

rotund ivy
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for the crossmod hand i think it will be a really stupid but funny idea to make it have a hashtag in the base score

loud perch
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dw i put to_big there

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wait no thats not how it works

rotund ivy
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just do what i did

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but with a less powerful operation

loud perch
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so do i do to_big(blah):power(blah)?

rotund ivy
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how do you include modded ranks/suits in the example btw smods docs suck

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theres prob a better way to get a precise number but itd be like to_big(x) ^ y

rotund ivy
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cj_O is the mod prefix and then the shorthand right

loud perch
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yup

loud perch
rotund ivy
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oh i didnt test it yet

loud perch
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oh do i need to put to_big in the planet card stuff maybe

rotund ivy
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i just assumed it worked

loud perch
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oh

rotund ivy
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since that works with a bunch of other stuff like joker costs

blissful scaffold
loud perch
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oh god should i try that

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i actually had to overwrite how Bunco calculates Spectrums

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because here it isn't supposed to work with Wild Cards

blissful scaffold
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i see

loud perch
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so ig you need optics to unlock fleurons and halberds

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:P

blissful scaffold
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wait

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oh my god

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ultimate spectrum??

loud perch
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every modded suit ever

blissful scaffold
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loud perch
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wait no

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genuinely

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hold the fuck up

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so

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if you have entropy

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plus corruption

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plus bunco

rotund ivy
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600 suits + 60 suits + 1 from entropy + corruption + 2

loud perch
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you can create an UltPair spectrum

rotund ivy
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except nil cards dont form flushes 💔

blissful scaffold
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this mod compatibility shit is so fucked that I love it

loud perch
rotund ivy
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nil cards cant form any hand other than high card and clusterfuck but i wanna stop that second one

loud perch
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oh

rotund ivy
loud perch
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:(

rotund ivy
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i mean i could change it

loud perch
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eh whatever, it's not important

blissful scaffold
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so nil is basically stone but no stone

loud perch
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stone, unlimited stone

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but no stone

rotund ivy
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its entirely a downside to using cleanse

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its like a pseudo suit cause they act like a suit sometimes but not other times

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sort of like the proposed abstract cards for cryptid but they have no benefit

blissful scaffold
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you gotta admit that my idea for a ultimate spectrum was kinda cool though
but it also means that it implies the existence of a ultimate spectrum house and ultimate spectrum seven

rotund ivy
#

add unstableex to get a gay spectrum

loud perch
#

ganymede is gonna look so cool once it gets its final art frfr

blissful scaffold
loud perch
#

oh right this still shows as ERROR

rotund ivy
blissful scaffold
#

Oh my god

rotund ivy
#

if you couldnt tell this hand contains 84 cards

blissful scaffold
#

if we include the bunco cards...

#

110 card hand 😭

loud perch
rotund ivy
#

i changed it by patching smods

loud perch
#

LMAO

rotund ivy
loud perch
#

also make that last line "Fuck you, God is dead"

loud perch
rotund ivy
#

you need to do 1 other thing btw

blissful scaffold
rotund ivy
#

ill show you

#

patch is this

[patches.pattern]
target = '=[SMODS _ "src/game_object.lua"]'
pattern = "return (x_above and (1e-6*eval(x) + eval(x_above)) or eval(x)) > (y_above and (1e-6*eval(y) + eval(y_above)) or eval(y))"
position = "at"
payload = "return to_big(x_above and (1e-6*eval(x) + eval(x_above)) or eval(x)) > to_big(y_above and (1e-6*eval(y) + eval(y_above)) or eval(y))"
match_indent = true

but it sets to 0 when you start a new run so you need to do something like this too:

    function Game:start_run(args)
        ref(self, args)
        if not args.savetext then
            G.GAME.hands.entr_All.mult = to_big(848484848484):arrow(84,848484848484)
            G.GAME.hands.entr_All.l_mult = to_big(848484848484):arrow(84,848484848484)
            G.GAME.hands.entr_All.chips = to_big(848484848484):arrow(84,848484848484)
            G.GAME.hands.entr_All.l_chips = to_big(848484848484):arrow(84,848484848484)
        end
    end```
loud perch
#

where do i put that last bit

rotund ivy
#

just anywhere lua-wise

#

same as any other function hook

loud perch
#

thankies :3

rotund ivy
#

kinda surprising that talisman doesnt do this already since bignum hand stats are supported just not as base stats ig

grand pumice
#

ootl, is spectrum 5 suits?

loud perch
#

yup

loud perch
#

i will be buffing Optics shortly

#

Perception will target 3, and Optics will have doubled base chips, as well as a new tooltip explaining what's different about them compared to other suits

loud perch
#

well that was piss-fucking-easy

#

...oh no

#

nevermind

#

sorting by rank is fucked

blissful scaffold
#

im curious if its because optics are worth more than normal hearts

#

did it do this before or not

loud perch
#

it didnt but luckily vanilla already has a solution

#

the get.nominal function makes an exception for stone cards

grand pumice
#

im completely OOTL on Optics

loud perch
#

suit 5 with special fuckery

grand pumice
#

yeah but im unaware of the fuckery

#

may i inquire?

loud perch
#

yup

#

Optics will twist Enhancements and Seals into unique exclusive Twisted Enhancements and Marks

#

as well as doubling base chips

grand pumice
#

m

loud perch
#

alright i ended up having to add it to its extra chips instead

gaunt abyss
#

is this ready/has this a gituhb

loud perch
#

not even close

mental mango
#

I mean it should be fine like that

loud perch
#

i've finished the Corrupt Deck main theme i think

#

packs/boss/shop come later

#

this will play when you're in a Corrupt Deck or a Corrupt Challenge

#

or a Supreme Deck in the case of Ocular, Abyssal, and Decoherence

dull flicker
#

Pretty cool! I think it does a decent job of giving a different atmosphere while also avoiding losing the endless replayability of the original. Nice job!

loud perch
#

yay :D

mental mango
loud perch
#

i think i'm most proud of the ending where where the guitar goes a lil bit funky

loud perch
#

ok heres an insane idea

#

Let Me Solo It
Corrupted from Luchador

  • Reduces the next Showdown Boss Blind size by 80%
  • Debuffs all other Jokers while held
#

this probably wont get in but its funny

sand mason
#

thats

#

very funny

dull flicker
#

I think it would work if there was a way to improve their stats. Maybe after every boss blind they gain ×1 mult which only becomes active for the showdown?

digital sphinx
#

gonna try to come up with ideas for corrupted challenge decks

#

Original: Double or Nothing

  • All playing cards have Red Seals, but are debuffed after scoring
    Corrupted: Triple Down
  • All playing cards have a Mark of Ruby
    BUT
  • Jokers have a high chance of having Miasma
grand pumice
#

ruby? entropy already did it

loud perch
#

altho idk how i'll make them marks of ruby without them being optics, idk if my code supports that yet

loud perch
#

Time Dilation
(Corrupted from Delayed Gratification)

  • Doubled Blind size, +3 Hands per round
  • Spare Hands give $1 extra
digital sphinx
#

Short Seller (Corrupted from Credit Card and To The Moon(?))

  • +3 Mult for every $1 in debt you are
loud perch
#

how do you go into debt without credit card lmao

digital sphinx
#

Rentals

loud perch
#

thats kinda niche

digital sphinx
#

The Tooth

loud perch
#

i'll just make it a to the moon corruption

#

+3 mult for every dollar less than 2

#

or 4

digital sphinx
#

maybe there could be more corruptions that involve debt

loud perch
#

corrupted econ jokers... hmm

digital sphinx
#

something involving risky investment that gives you a lot of money upfront but will put you in debt if you hold on to it for too long

blissful scaffold
#

jacked up to the moon but it gives you a chance to lose money

#

just like real stock!

loud perch
#

Market Crash
(Corrupted from To The Moon)

  • Shop prices halved
  • Costs $30 to sell, will go into debt if needed
digital sphinx
#

trying to think of something involving bull

loud perch
digital sphinx
#

yea that could work

digital sphinx
#

I like it

blissful scaffold
#

very interesting

#

i like

loud perch
#

we need more cross-rarity cross-niche corruptions

#

two completely unrelated jokers

mental mango
#

wha

loud perch
#

like

#

idk its hard to explain

#

like this

#

more like this

#

Hexagonal Joker
(Corrupted from Square Joker)
This Joker gains +6 Mult when 3 or more 6s are played

mental mango
#

Hrmmm

digital sphinx
#

Jack of All Trades (Corrupted from To-Do List, Card Sharp, and Obelisk)

  • This Joker gains X0.5 Mult for every consecutive unique hand played
loud perch
#

jesus lmao

#

a triple-corruption

#

i'll change the wording:

#

Library of Babel
(Corrupted from To-Do List, Card Sharp, and Obelisk)

  • This Joker gains +X0.3 Mult when played poker hand hadn't been played within the last 3 hands
loud perch
#

i'm definitely adding this one

#

oh shit this is a triple-rarity corruption

#

that's even cooler

digital sphinx
#

Idea: for multi-rarity corruptions, what if corrupting a higher rarity influenced the stats of the joker

#

same for having multiple jokers that corrupt into the same thing

crisp grail
#

Have if there was a new rarity that appears onulti rarity corrupted jonklers

digital sphinx
#

Voter Fraud (Corrupted from Hanging Chad)

  • Retrigger a random scoring card X times, where X is the number of scoring cards
#

feels a bit op for a common corruption but idk

#

even with the randomness you could get to the point where it doesn't matter

crisp grail
#

Where X is number of cards divided by 2 rounded up

#

Max of 3 with no extra selection limit

#

Wait that's bad

digital sphinx
#

Take Abyssal Bismuth for example
If you had both Arrowhead and Bloodstone, then bismuth would cycle through 2 of the suitstone effects instead of 1

#

kind of fusion-ish which does go against the localthunk design principles

#

"No exodia jokers"

digital sphinx
#

anyway I got curious on how to gauge the power of Event Horizon so I did a run where I started with constellation and tracked how many chips and mult Event Horizon would have
I did the math and Event Horizon would end with +1045 chips and +98 mult

heavy tulip
digital sphinx
#

(the math was just add up all the leveled up chips/mult and subtract the values from level 1)

loud perch
loud perch
#

ts pmo (Ach.)

  • Play a Flush Five of Aces during The Plant whilst possessing Prosopometamorphopsia and any valid Joker that would target Aces from it
blissful scaffold
loud perch
#

doesnt it just mean "this shit pisses me off"

blissful scaffold
#

but since youre adding it to your mod then i'm feeding you to the gluttonous beast

loud perch
#

hence, there is reason to make a nod

crisp grail
#

We just love the internet

exotic oxide
#

i knew ts was going to happen

#

what this joker doing is very smart but also very dangerous

plucky void
#

Is this a actual mod with a download or just theory crafting

loud perch
#

but it is heavily wip

plucky void
#

Okay is there a download?

loud perch
#

nope!

#

:3

plucky void
#

So not real

loud perch
#

it's real to me and only me

loud perch
#

because only i can play with what i coded

#

teehee

#

[WIP/No Demo] Corruption Mod

#

Corruption Mod [WIP/No Demo]

loud perch
west lake
#

I just had a brain wave, and I want to share it:
What if there was a deck/challenge where your deck isn’t reshuffled at the end of the round?

loud perch
#

mmmm nah idk

digital sphinx
#

Mutation ideas

  • Foil cards give an additional +50 Chips
  • Holographic cards give an additonal +10 Mult
  • Polychrome cards give an additional X0.5 Mult
loud perch
#

These could probably be akin to the "specialist" mutations actually 👀

#

making poly a lot more common and giving some more mult

#

but making foil and holo worse

pliant mantle
#

Corrupt City
Same as 15 Minute City with these changes:
Start with an Eternal Hologram and $69 too
Play on Horizon Stake
Lose $1 per hand left over at the end of round
Earn no Interest

loud perch
#

implying horizon stake exists here

pliant mantle
#

Corrupt City (reworked)
Same as 15 Minute City with these changes:
Start with an Eternal Hologram and $69 too
Add a random card with 3x probability of being a face card
Lose $1 per hand left over at the end of round
Earn no Interest

loud perch
#

mmmm i cant really see this one being that challenging or fun

#

or unique enough

broken jasper
#

What about
Cyberpunk City
Start with an eternal Hologram.
After every blind, add a random card to deck without scaling Hologram.

grand pumice
#

ok but like why hologram then

#

just so it looks cool

#

?

#

to take up slots you could use for literally any other joker?

loud perch
#

-w-

#

If I had to do a challenge themed around Hologram in here, it would use A Part Falling instead

#

but likely not

broken jasper
#

Ok

loud perch
#

alright, i'm caving

#

i will release an alpha build

#

shortly

#

before that, i gotta:

  • Fix Miasma
  • Add banishment/destroy functions for Corrupted Jokers and make THE SHOW NEVER ENDS bypass them
  • Add Wicked Packs (because why not)
  • Fix miscellaneous bugs
blissful scaffold
#

corrumption

loud perch
#

crromptn

terse coral
#

crumpet

digital sphinx
#

cornruption

grand pumice
#

coupon?

#

rrti

digital sphinx
loud perch
#

this mod could use a better name methinks

digital sphinx
#

ok which spectral card names haven't been used already

solar minnow
digital sphinx
solar minnow
#

DAMN

#

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

digital sphinx
#

ok so Wraith is available, there was a mod using that title but its graveyarded

loud perch
#

I'd rather name it after a spectral the mod itself introduces, if I go that route

#

Charybdis / Eidolon / Genesis / Oblivion

none of them really fit

#

Wraith I don't really see fitting either

#

Familiar: Parallel universe Balatro
Grim: Skill tree
Incantation: Available, to my knowledge
Talisman: BigNum
Aura: Available, to my knowledge
Wraith: Available, to my knowledge
Sigil: A fuckton of suits
Ouija: ...?
Ectoplasm: Memory helper
Immolate: I swear this is used but IDK by what
Ankh: ...?
Deja Vu: ...?
Hex: ...?
Trance: Color palettes
Medium: ...?
Cryptid: Duh
The Soul: Seed seacher
Black Hole: Screenreader support

#

Oblivion might work

blissful scaffold
#

omblivion

loud perch
#

in Oblivion's case, it directly ties to quite a lot of what the mod adds

#

the Miasma Edition lets Jokers be Corrupted and turns playing cards into Optics

#

yknow what

#

Oblivion [WIP/No Demo]

#

Oblivion it is

#

omblimbvion

crisp grail
#

M

#

Wait what letter do we have here

#

W?

loud perch
#

welp time to change every instance of cj_ in the mod to ovn_

loud perch
#

corrupted M will be X

#

Oblivion can be shortened to Oven

crisp grail
#

Oven

loud perch
#

Oven

crisp grail
#

:oven:

loud perch
#

do i add an oven joker that makes corrupted jokers

crisp grail
#

Yes

#

Laggy oven

#

Or whateve

loud perch
#

Oblivion Oven (Rare)

  • When Blind selected, give Miasma edition to the leftward Joker
#

or maybe this is an on-sell

#

yeah it's on-sell, adjacent jokers

#

yippee

#

-# "Why do they call it oven when you of in the cold Joker of out hot eat the Joker"

loud perch
blissful scaffold
#

right

loud perch
#

hmm

#

while i do like the concept, this mod does not have epics

#

so it'll have to be nerfed quite a bit

loud perch
#

check pins for more info

vestal aspen
#

:O

#

I LOVE ADDING TO S OF SHIT

blissful scaffold
#

i just wanted to lay out the general idea on how it will function

loud perch
#

added Ice/Radiant/Ion Jokers

#

for the cards, if you're unaware:

  • Ice: X2 Mult, decays by -X0.1 Mult each time it's played, melts at X1 Mult
  • Radiant: Distributes base Chips and 40 extra Chips equally among all played cards
  • Ion: Adds between 2%-10% of Blind requirements to current score, 1 in 15 chance to self-destruct when triggered
mental mango
#

ICE ICE BABY

loud perch
#

Now here's a fun one

#

Sounds useless until you realize the synergy this has with things that proc when a Joker corrupts

#

Consider the following relevant synergies:

  • Indigo Seal: Create a Spectral when a Joker Corrupts
  • A Part Falling: Gains +X0.15 Mult when anything Corrupts
  • Cigarette Card: Corrupted Jokers give X1.5 Mult
  • Corrupt Plasma Deck: Increase Instability (exponent) by 0.1 when a Joker Corrupts
blissful scaffold
#

Corrupt Plasma sounds kinda iffy
why not call it something like polterplasmic deck or something similar to that

loud perch
#

this. this is why.

blissful scaffold
#

oh

loud perch
blissful scaffold
#

Christ

loud perch
#

:P

#

question nothing, for the author always has their reasons

blissful scaffold
#

this is gonna be interesting

loud perch
brazen delta
# loud perch Familiar: Parallel universe Balatro Grim: Skill tree Incantation: Available, to ...

ouija: seemingly cancelled mod that added unbalance to vanilla jokers
immolate: seed searching tool that things like the soul and blueprint run on
ankh: speedrun mod
deja vu: 2 options, neither are very popular though
hex: pretty much free because it was used for one thing that was pretty much killed
ectoplasm: memory ehlper that is graveyarded
aura: animated textures
wraith: animation helper that was merged into talisman instantly (made by math)
medium: random ass mod that's basically dead
incantation: consumable stacking that is in jensbalatrocollection

loud perch
#

settled on oblivion

brazen delta
#

oh mb i'm dumb

grand pumice
#

oblivion?

#

like the hit game The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion?

loud perch
#

no, like the spectral that applies miasma edition to 1 selected joker or playing card

grand pumice
#

does it have funny character customization?

loud perch
#

no

grand pumice
#

D:

vestal aspen
#

remaster when

loud perch
#

bitch

broken jasper
plush jackal
plucky void
#

Is there any plan for ever releasing a demo?

digital sphinx
#

There's one planned but no release date

loud perch
#

When It's Done™️

blissful scaffold
#

i'll release the demo when i feel like it

brazen delta
#

wha

#

this isn't your mod

echo flame
# loud perch bitch

...I mean, it just released a few days ago, so people are going to make that comparison.

loud perch
#

fair

#

name change is official

#

it's a lot cooler than just Corruption

#

and now time to make art for the titular spectral

loud perch
#

tada

grand pumice
#

nice

north umbra
# loud perch

why are the blues used for top and bottom half different

grand pumice
#

cuz on the bottom theres shadow or something

#

its meant to be darker

#

just like the middle thing uses 2 yellows

north umbra
#

why would it have a shadow tho

#

actually i do see what you mean

#

this feels flatter i think?? unsure

loud perch
north umbra
#

is that like a requirement

#

also the colour is used in the name tag anyway

loud perch
#

oblivion tomorrow (maybe)

loud perch
#

Cryptid: M
Ditpyrc: H
Cry-Oblivion: X

whats next

rotund ivy
#

what is this, just associated letters or memes specifically

#

cause entropy would either be E or 🌞

digital sphinx
#

Entropy would be "already did this"

rotund ivy
#

true

digital sphinx
grand pumice
loud perch
#

either that or optic itself

#

eh, i'm sure a meme will emerge

#

ovn

loud perch
loud perch
#

Things I need to for sure include in Corrupt Erratic:

  • Deck randomization at the start
    • And every Ante, enhancements included
  • You get random stat increases/decreases out of nowhere
  • Shop prices go insane
  • The UI gradually gets more fucked up in scale and rotation
  • Every interactable object may change scale at random
  • Things might turn into different things
  • Sounds and music get distorted
  • The screen does not screen sometimes
  • Random shader fuckery
  • Other deck effects apply sometimes
  • All of the above effects gradually get worse as the game goes on
digital sphinx
#
  • Hands and Discards may randomly swap values (doesn't happen if one is less than 2 to keep things fair)
loud perch
#

lmao

rotund ivy
#

randomly shift the pos and soul_pos of random cards

#

aka sprite randomisation

pliant mantle
#

So, was my proposal for Corrupt Abandoned Deck used on Corrupt Nebula Deck?

loud perch
#

i forgor

subtle briar
grand pumice
#

true

gaunt abyss
grand pumice
#

it's tomorrow

#

have patience

crisp grail
#

If i was able to make a mod the letter would be Q

#

But I don have enough brainpower

crisp grail
#

Add door knob to the mod or else

loud perch
#

no play for you

grand pumice
#

literally unplayablium

blissful scaffold
#

what then?

mental mango
#

None

grand pumice
#

none tomorrow

loud perch
#

if you have no discards then uh

#

game over

blissful scaffold
#

ohhhh

hot jungle
loud perch
#

yup lmao

sand mason
loud perch
#

yes thehumancondition

#

welcome to the No Deck

#

none real

loud perch
#

which of these should i make next

#

i might nerf ion cards a bit

lethal fog
#

Crystal card

broken jasper
#

coordinate card

#

or crystal card

digital sphinx
#

my heart says dynamo card but I don't want to suggest something new when there's already 2 suggestions

loud perch
#

radiant card art

digital sphinx
#

Just had a mutation idea
Total Transformation (Unique)

  • Scored cards' base chips are replaced with base mult
#

hiker about to go crazy with this

#

actually nvm those count as extra chips

loud perch
#

common, uncommon, or rare mutation, this one?

broken jasper
#

Rare

#

Also had a mutation idea
Gentrification (Unique)
Pairs are considered to be 3 of a Kind, Two Pairs are considered to be Full House

mental mango
# loud perch radiant card art

Real Talk, this doesn't scream "radiant" to me. When I think of Radiant, I think of yellows, golds, and spheres like the sun the have an almost glowing quality to them, but thats just my personal opinion.

#

Maybe if the triangles were golden-yellow and had a glow to them?

#

Its hard because Bonus Card transmogrification

crisp grail
#

Just add the voucher shine shader

loud perch
#

yyyeah I might actually just end up renaming them instead

loud perch
#

Anyone up for making the art for Crystal Cards?

loud perch
#

everyone, meet bombastic and insightful joker

#

i've actually decided to make them only corrupt from Droll and Crafty

#

because spectrums are like the anti-flushes

#

same with The Breach only being from The Tribe

#

simpler effect in that case

#

👁️

#

now with a joker

digital sphinx
#

this will be Parallel Joker I presume

loud perch
#

no, this is Prideful Joker

#

Parallel's looooong existed

digital sphinx
#

gotcha

plush jackal
loud perch
#

because you can now effectively pair this with the other jolly/slylikes

#

like spectrum house for example you can have The Breach with The Trio

plush jackal
#

Will there be corrupted versions of the Cryptid Jokers for the other Flush hands?

loud perch
#

yup

digital sphinx
#

second draft

loud perch
#

could use more purple and shading but otherwise good start

grand pumice
#

me when im voronoing it

#

consider

loud perch
#

what

loud perch
grand pumice
#

its from when i was making these

#

#your-arts-n-crafts message

#

a voronoi shader thing

#

could be tweaked to make more white and purple and stuff

loud perch
#

a shader for an enhancement is

#

weird

grand pumice
#

i could pause it also

loud perch
#

again, i dont think enhancements are meant to have unique shaders

grand pumice
#

dont think of it as a shader shader, think of it as a procedurally generated texture

loud perch
#

oh!

#

now that could be cool

grand pumice
#

it would be a shader.fs, but it would just generate the textures for those enhanced cards

#

and you could still put edition shaders over it ofc

loud perch
#

i see u i see u

#

also real quick could you send that miasma edition shader again cuz i forgor

loud perch
grand pumice
#

whachu wanted with it again?

#

bluer?

#

more saturated?

loud perch
#

bluer mainly

#

the white parts might be cool if their alpha was dramatically lowered too

#

if that makes sense

grand pumice
loud perch
#

yeah

grand pumice
#

alr lemme try

grand pumice
#

this is just the transparency nerf on white

#

bluified

#

@loud perch ?

#

thats also a version i guess

loud perch
#

WHOA i like that version

#

can i see an in-between of the two

grand pumice
loud perch
#

Oh that fucking rules

grand pumice
#

its a bit intense on the jokers, is that ok?

loud perch
grand pumice
#

alr lets see

#

ok i got it back to here, what part do you want me to crank up

loud perch
#

the blue, make it a tiny bit more saturated and i think it's good

grand pumice
#

so something between that and this, right?

#

the difference is one line, so i guess i just adjust that one constant aaaaaand

#

so how bout now? @loud perch

loud perch
#

perfect

#

fucked up and evil as they should be

grand pumice
#

dming you the file

lethal fog
#

Ima make a red one of these for ultrajokers

loud perch
#

what

lethal fog
#

Shader

#

It looks good

grand pumice
#

i hope my code is opaque enough you cant just change the color and have it work

lethal fog
#

I was going to try recreate it

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So it will be more than a recolour

grand pumice
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thats alright then

lethal fog
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Sry

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But tbh, I planned my shi now and I don't think ot would work with my ideas

loud perch
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ever heard of optical humor buddy? optic

crisp grail
loud perch
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abyssal humor

grand pumice
crisp grail
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No

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If you are still uncomfortable

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I would start using something else

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Stoopid

grand pumice
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if you dont remove/edit it im definitely not gonna listen to you so

crisp grail
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Look again

grand pumice
crisp grail
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Why is it frowning poop
Oh my wifi is just bad

lethal fog
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thats not a racial slur, but can be abolist if it was known about

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ive still been called worse

grand pumice
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dont care if youve been called worse, it's a slur and im gonna treat it as such

lethal fog
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i wasnt telling you to

grand pumice
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cya

crisp grail
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Oh my god this wifi bru

grand pumice
lethal fog
crisp grail
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I'm not exactly sure but
Stupid, or some hated guy

lethal fog
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ah

crisp grail
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Anyways

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What new stuff would be added to

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oven

lethal fog
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oven moment

loud perch
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like, every feature that will exist?

crisp grail
loud perch
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idk uhhhh jokers, enhancements, seals, an edition, consumables, a suit, bosses, a buncha decks, Nova Drift's entire wild mod system...

loud perch
loud perch
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anyone feel like turning these into boss blind spritesheets lol

loud perch
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implemented 👀

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theyre here :D

grand pumice
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miasma when

loud perch
loud perch
lethal fog
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Nice

grand pumice
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ok but the 3rd one is getting CRAZY head

lethal fog
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Shut up

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I thought I already said I'm a kid today

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I didn't really wanted to hear about oral sex

grand pumice
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ok

loud perch
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yeah maybe not the right thing to say there

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anyways, optic

north umbra
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ngl this is my favourite take on the alternate balatro idea

loud perch
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:D

north umbra
loud perch
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yay :D

loud perch
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debuffing optics by themselves is actually deceptively destructive

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because even if theyre not enhanced or sealed, they score double the chips

echo flame
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Is there anything anywhere about all of the stuff that this mod adds?

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Like a GitHub page?

loud perch
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nope! not yet at least

north umbra
loud perch
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theres another boss for that

north umbra
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eeeYIKES!

loud perch
digital sphinx
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"ThE sHoW NeVeR eNdS" yes it does, the purity is coming

loud perch
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lmfao

mental mango
# loud perch evil

Kinda counterintuitive to make blind disabling still trigger the boss imo

loud perch
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i thought it'd be interesting to do this and shake it up

mental mango
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Luchador crying in a corner rn