Cryptid-MoreMarioJokers

[nocturne socket]

Thanks you I will try to make a fix when I can

Can you download latest commt and try again

I can't test on my phone

Ok I think I fixed it for real this time

[wraith obsidian]

Sure

Downloaded MoreMarioJokers-cryptid.lua, still got crash

[nocturne socket]

Same crash?

Fuck

Il have to wait til I can test myself

[nocturne socket]

Does it do it with cave dish or any other destroy at end of round joker

[wraith obsidian]

I'll try

Rigged Cavendish also crashes

[nocturne socket]

Can you re-download latest commit and try again

[wraith obsidian]

Sure

New Error

Wont launch game

[nocturne socket]

Fuck

[wraith obsidian]

Probably better to revert this last change and wait till you can edit properly

[nocturne socket]

Yeah

[wraith obsidian]

Here is a list of potential bee versions of the currently added Mario jokers in line with current bee-latro balancing:

Nostalgic Bee Luigi: All Jokers give X(bee count) chips
Bee Luigi: All jokers add x{(0.75 * bee count)} to all probabilities
Bee Peach: All jokers reduce the blind size by (2 * bee count)%
Bee Daisy: (bee count)/10 chance each hand per joker to make a random consumable
Bee Rosalina: (bee count)/16 chance each joker upgrades all hands
Bee King Boo?: All jokers (bee count)/20 upgrade edition, 1/(bee count)*50 to reset each trigger. (Maybe the later should remain 1/100)
Bee Lakitu?: Each joker gives + 0.02(bee count) joker slots end of round
Yellow Beezo (Shy Guy): Played number cards permanently get X((n + b)/15 mult where n is equal to joker total and b is total bees

I guess we also need versions of Waluigi and Wario
Bee Waluigi: All Jokers give X(bee count) mult
Bee Wario: All jokers give $(1.5 * bee count) when triggered

[nocturne socket]

Hmm maybe @paper bear can I have your thoughts on these

So these would bee made with the spectral and the joker

[nocturne socket]

Correct?

[wraith obsidian]

That was the original thought

[nocturne socket]

Ok IL make a bee mushroom spectal

[nocturne socket]

Well actually

Can you make the spectral

I hate making spectals

[paper bear]

that sounds good

I assume the bee spectral would have a different effect for non-mario jokers or only appear if you have mario jokers?

[nocturne socket]

And IL try to code it all when I can get back on my pc

[nocturne socket]

Prob only appear if you have Mario jokers

[wraith obsidian]

Gotcha. No prob. I think the best approach is that powerups have soul effects with the actual powerup while they all share the same base.

[vagrant sluice]

the shyest of guys

i still cant figure out the legendary bg

[nocturne socket]

We could just use lexis

And give you both credit

[vagrant sluice]

oh :(

[main comet]

i like ried's better tbh

[vagrant sluice]

candy

[nocturne socket]

I ment soul background

[vagrant sluice]

oh oke

[nocturne socket]

Use lexis soul background and candy's sprite

[vagrant sluice]

yeye

[nocturne socket]

IL update

[nocturne socket]

^^^

[nocturne socket]

If you want to try and update the code and sprite sheet in a pull rq we can

[vagrant sluice]

ok

[nocturne socket]

@fossil mortar we might use this soul sprite instead of yours but we will use your bg sprite

[fossil mortar]

ok

[wraith obsidian]

Thoughts on this being the base spectral? As mentioned earlier I picture each power up being a soul layer above this

[paper bear]

wouldn't it make sense for the ? block to be smaller so there's space for the power up

so it looks more like it's coming out of the block

[wraith obsidian]

Fair

[wraith obsidian]

Revisions made

[nocturne socket]

yeah i like this

[wraith obsidian]

Also made a v2 of bee mario

[nocturne socket]

nice ima be in general 1 coding some stuff

shit

i just created an infinate loop

[vagrant sluice]

so how do u do the background

[wraith obsidian]

I've kinda taken the easy route and put a filter on a pre-existing background. I used Yorick's for this one.

[vagrant sluice]

oh and how do u do the name

[wraith obsidian]

Just grab letters from the other names if they are avaliable

[vagrant sluice]

and if not?

[wraith obsidian]

Wing it I guess? Or look at what other people have done for the missing letters

[vagrant sluice]

oh

[nocturne socket]

IM FUCKING DONE

\IM FUCKING DONE

Rosalina is Cancled until further notice

[vagrant sluice]

woah what

oh

[nocturne socket]

I am fucking done with this bich ass joker

[paper bear]

calm down

[nocturne socket]

sorry mr cryptid

[paper bear]

its ok

if you're struggling one good tip is to take a break and come back later, refreshed

maybe you'll see what you missed/what went wrong the first time

[vagrant sluice]

also get a rubber duck

[nocturne socket]

idk how i Can see what im missing im not really missing anything

there is no reson it should not be working

[paper bear]

what is the issue? I can try and troubleshoot

[nocturne socket]

its the fact that rosaline thinkgs that jokers that destroy themselfs are still there

rosalina

[paper bear]

check for card.getting_sliced

and then in Cryptid, I also have to patch some things to use that

[nocturne socket]

how can i do that

[paper bear]

if not {targeted joker}.getting_sliced then
  {level up}
end

[nocturne socket]

like make it only go though the loop if it is not getting sliced

[paper bear]

yeah

or check for that before running the level up function

[nocturne socket]

ok

[nocturne socket]

nope

didnt work

[paper bear]

what joker are you testing with

for the destroyed one?

[nocturne socket]

vanilla ones

cavendish and gross

i can try removing the event its in

[paper bear]

they don't use getting sliced actually

ok I have an idea

• index the cards by value
  (so instead of for i = 1, #G.jokers.cards do use for _, card in ipairs(G.jokers.cards) do)
• check if the card exists in each event function

i think the destroyed jokers are causing you to index out of bounds

[vagrant sluice]

probably

[paper bear]

gtg for now but lmk if you still need any help

[nocturne socket]

how can i index the joker with this

[vagrant sluice]

G.jokers.cards[i]?

[nocturne socket]

there is no i anymore

[vagrant sluice]

aw cmon your sense of self isnt that bad /j

[paper bear]

card

In my example the joker is just card

[nocturne socket]

oh ok

[nocturne socket]

bro this was all i needed to do

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[wraith obsidian]

Got bee shroom done

Shading might be a bit off

Also, should the powerup be restricted to spectral colors?

[nocturne socket]

idk

[wraith obsidian]

I just fear that for certain powerups like fire flower and ice flower, the differences would be hard to tell

I guess we could swap the name on the card

Bee shroom with spectral colors

[karmic dust]

You all have been putting in work, these all look sick

[nocturne socket]

I like this better

[nocturne socket]

can you help me come up with a cool gradient for the mario jokers rarity

[wraith obsidian]

Sure

What does this entail?

[nocturne socket]

um its just for mario jokers that cant spawn from soul

[wraith obsidian]

Gotcha

[wraith obsidian]

The easiest answer is one between the exotic and legendary colors

[main comet]

woah what website is this

[wraith obsidian]

https://coolors.co/gradient-maker/5ab2f7-12cff3

We could do one that is a mix between red and blue like the colors of mario

[fossil mortar]

Purple

[wraith obsidian]

I personally think the best option is to match the colors with each power up. Example yellow and black text would be good for bee

Also, I wonder if for circus powered up characters should give X5 mult

[nocturne socket]

+maybe im not sure rn im just trying to test the gradient

[wraith obsidian]

The blue is #008CFF

[nocturne socket]

and im asking for help but everyone is ignoring me

[main comet]

you just posted a giant block of code in #spectralpack-dev

[nocturne socket]

and a crash withga question

[nocturne socket]

#spectralpack-dev message

[main comet]

ah, didn't see that

you should probably post this in #other-mods-dev honestly

[nocturne socket]

and i want to know what im doing wrong with my rarity

[main comet]

#spectralpack-dev is for cryptid coding specifically afaik

[nocturne socket]

its a cryptid addon

so its kinda crypitd coding

[main comet]

i mean, my mod is technically a cryptid addon

cryptid is one of its dependencies

[worn tinsel]

Woah, it's mario's birthday! I should grab this mod!

[nocturne socket]

Grab the latest commit not release

Release has a very bad bug with Rosalina

[wraith obsidian]

Here is a bee luigi

Again built off of Linus Goof Ball's design

[worn tinsel]

Idea: April Fools Pride joker called Gay Luigi, and when you get it it plays the Hotel Mario voice line.
-# (Alternatively/Additionally, Gay Bowser and the Mario 64 voice line.)

[worn tinsel]

I slipped on a banana peel and DIED

[worn tinsel]

-# (My gros michel popped and I think either Mario or Rosalina tried to point to it. But I'm no good at reading errors cuzza the minor dyslexia and the major sensory overload code tends to give me.)

[nocturne socket]

Download latest commit I need to make another release soon

It is fixed in commit

[nocturne socket]

Wait sit no it isnt

I forgot to commit it I'm stupid

[nocturne socket]

Il fix it in a few

[nocturne socket]

i guess i have slight dimentia and im terible at hide and seek what where the effect for all the jokers including mario

[wraith obsidian]

Bee Mario was retrigger each joker for each bee

[nocturne socket]

Ah ok

wait is the get bees a global fuction or do i need to make it again

[wraith obsidian]

If it's not global already we should make it global

[nocturne socket]

yeal il test it

[nocturne socket]

yay

[wraith obsidian]

Very nice!

[nocturne socket]

oh god

[wraith obsidian]

We def need to nerf trenchcoat

[nocturne socket]

lol

[nocturne socket]

do you have one for luigi and nluigi

[wraith obsidian]

Check my reply to with the Mario effect

[nocturne socket]

oh ok i might try to make the bee mushroom thing

[wraith obsidian]

Coolio!

[nocturne socket]

what rate do you think is good

[wraith obsidian]

Maybe twice as often as a soul stone?

[nocturne socket]

um do you have just back and font

[wraith obsidian]

The back

[wraith obsidian]

Thats awsome

[wraith obsidian]

Very cool! Very impressive! Do you have it set up so it only appears when bee-latro is installed?

[nocturne socket]

yep

(it should)

and i can easly add jokers to the list of powerupable jokers

[wraith obsidian]

I will definitely bee interested to try it out!

[nocturne socket]

LOL

il just send the zip when i finish luigi for you to try out

[wraith obsidian]

It would be funny if you also added the ability for the regular joker to turn into a Jimbee (maybe not make the power up show up for it)

[nocturne socket]

fuck it il do that

as a secret baility

aBEElity

[wraith obsidian]

Thats the spirit

[vagrant sluice]

ghost? where

[nocturne socket]

also wait luigi is just bad if thats the only bee joker you have

[wraith obsidian]

Maybe make it at least 1

[nocturne socket]

2*

[wraith obsidian]

Are you talking about nostalgic luigi?

[nocturne socket]

no

regular

x(0.75*1) = 0.75

[wraith obsidian]

Ok, it needs reworked

Bee Luigi: All jokers add x{1 + ( bee count/5)} to all probabilities

[nocturne socket]

um yeah sure

[wraith obsidian]

Feel free to make changes if you think it could be better

I guess nostalgic bee luigi (and by extension waluigi) should instead be:
Nostalgic Bee Luigi: All Jokers give X(1 + bee count) chips

[nocturne socket]

sure yeah

[wraith obsidian]

Here is a version of regular Mario based on my bee Mario design.

[karmic dust]

Clean

[wraith obsidian]

Fixed a minor error

[nocturne socket]

I don't see the difference ima be honest

[main comet]

me neither

lemme look in-game

[wraith obsidian]

This is the current design

[nocturne socket]

Oh ok IL add you to credits and replace it when I can

[nocturne socket]

I just realized rosalina and daisy both would not change if rigged

[wraith obsidian]

That is an external factor. If you have enough bees you can use your seed card for something else.

[nocturne socket]

Eh but seeds are easy to get

Especially if you have a legendary

[nocturne socket]

And you have to also have the chance to get the bee mushroom

We can completely rework the effect if needed for the bee variants as long as they still fit there theme

[wraith obsidian]

Okay then. How about for the probability jokers they remain the usual 1/?? effect for each legendary, but you get beecount/2 extra items when they are activated. King boo could remain the same since the edition removal effect would also be active if rigged.

[nocturne socket]

Sure

[nocturne socket]

Bees in a trench coat would go crazy

[nocturne socket]

@karmic dust

[wraith obsidian]

Nice

[nocturne socket]

ima just make regular for now

Um

[wraith obsidian]

Bee Luigi is responsible for the extinction of the banana

[nocturne socket]

yeah ima need to get someones help to fix that

[wraith obsidian]

In what way? Isn't it working as intended?

[nocturne socket]

NO

thats 2 jokers

its sposed to be x1.2 per joker rn

[wraith obsidian]

Oh

[nocturne socket]

not x 1.2e300

[wraith obsidian]

I thought you had trenchcoat

[nocturne socket]

oh no

[wraith obsidian]

My guess is that its a divide by 0 error

[karmic dust]

card ability is cool and i like the art but idk what i'm lookin at lol

[nocturne socket]

the joker

[karmic dust]

why does it say mario

filler for now?

[nocturne socket]

because its a new rarity

[karmic dust]

oooo

[nocturne socket]

so that you have to use the powerups on them to get the bee varient

[main comet]

name is most likely placeholder

but yea

[karmic dust]

dope

[nocturne socket]

@sleek dragon i know you helped me with the original luigi so i need your help why would this be math.huging

wait shit im stupid

sorry for the ping

nvm nvm my idea didnt work i need help again

[sleek dragon]

whats becoming huge?

[main comet]

numerator of a probability

specifically of cavendish in this example

though, it probably applies to all probabilities

[nocturne socket]

nvm nvm nvm i found the problem i accidently set the last odd change to 0 instead of one so it was dividing by 0

[karmic dust]

A thought about the Mario rarity, seems a little odd naming the mario and luigi rarities "mario", maybe " Super Bro's" or something of the sort? I like the idea of the bee jokers having their own rarity but naming it "mario" seems odd to me

[main comet]

i'm pretty sure that the name is only a placeholder

[karmic dust]

i figured

[main comet]

in any case, i do agree

[karmic dust]

in the event it wasn't i just wanted to mention it

[nocturne socket]

super bros neems nice

[karmic dust]

N64 deck when

[vagrant sluice]

ismt luigis last name mario

[wraith obsidian]

If we take the original Mario movie as gospel (which I certainly do), yes

[main comet]

nah, his last name is mangione

[nocturne socket]

What would it do

You start with every base mario joker ? Lul

[main comet]

start with a random moremariojokers joker

idk

[nocturne socket]

Maybe actually

Not a bad idea

omfg

I need someone to make art for the N64 deck that ima make

[wraith obsidian]

I can take a shot at it

[nocturne socket]

imaz take my own shot at it but your is going to be 1000x better

[wraith obsidian]

You should do it! I would love to see what you make! I could always help clean up a design.

[nocturne socket]

um i have this i dont know if you want to work from here

[wraith obsidian]

I can try if you send the file.

[wraith obsidian]

Thanks

[nocturne socket]

the real question is what powerup should we do next

MAYBE FIRE FLOWER

oop caps

also super star

[nocturne socket]

can we make shy guy do n * 0.1 insted of /10 so gemini with it is good

[wraith obsidian]

Thoughts on this dd boot up screen inspiration?

Maybe to differentiate it from the legendary deck, maybe only Mario jokers can appear and power-ups become a ot more common.

[nocturne socket]

HMM MAYBE I LIKE THE ART

oop caps

[nocturne socket]

I HAVE JUST GAINED THE ABILOITY TO PLAY VIDEOS IN BALATRO

[wraith obsidian]

crazy

[main comet]

yeah

[nocturne socket]

cool

[karmic dust]

sorry thought i replied, this is what i was thinking

[main comet]

yea

[karmic dust]

this would be dope

[wraith obsidian]

Mario Jokers + barry from Beelatro is an op combo

[echo gate]

i had ace equilibrium

[wraith obsidian]

By the way, I'm just throwing this out there. One of the powerups should be the super crown that adds synergy with king or queen cards. I think it's weird that we have king boo alongside normal enemies so maybe the super crown could result in normal enemies becoming king versions. The only issue is that there isn't an official king shy guy.

The princess I guess would also just get bigger crowns?

[nocturne socket]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-gif-13393287

[nocturne socket]

any chance i could have a sleeve

[wraith obsidian]

Sure. Never made one before. Will see what I can do in the near future.

[wraith obsidian]

Thoughts?

[wraith obsidian]

Also, at the moment we aren't nerfing trenchcoat but rather retrigger scaling. At least for honey seal. With this in mind bee Mario would probably be, "Has 1 + power of 2 (bee count) retrigers. Example, 2 bees would be 1, 4 bees would be 2, 8 bees would be 3. It would still be better than regular Mario at 4 bees.

Still very experimental, worth waiting for the dust to settle on the verdict before making a change.

[nocturne socket]

Ok 👍

[nocturne socket]

I like this il add when I can

[nocturne socket]

If I where to add a mmj code card what would it be called

[wraith obsidian]

What would it do?

[nocturne socket]

Odk but I have an idea
://uuddlrlrba start

For the famous mario cheat code

[wraith obsidian]

I'll look that up but maybe call it ://GAME_GENIE then?

[nocturne socket]

Konami Code is what this is

[nocturne socket]

I like this

And it's used in many games including mario

[wraith obsidian]

Cool! What effect would it have as part of the mod?

[nocturne socket]

No clue though

Watto had an idea of commit but with only mario jokers

[wraith obsidian]

That could work

[karmic dust]

How would it work with other jokers though? They just turn into a Mario joker or you need a Mario joker to turn into another

[nocturne socket]

I fact

Maybe after doing enough times on any joker it can transform into a random mario joker

[karmic dust]

maybe, whatever you decide we can test it in multiplayer

Any progress with the cardsleeve fix?

[nocturne socket]

No I haven't been able to be at my pc today

[karmic dust]

unfortunate

[wraith obsidian]

As you know there is no official bee peach design so here is my interperation.

I also have alt version of Peach I used as a base for bee peach. Feel free to switch it or don't. Doesn't matter either way.

[wraith obsidian]

I imagine the bee cap would be similar to the boomerang outfit in 3d world where peach would have a ponytail.

[nocturne socket]

Can you get the original here so I can compare

I feel like the Arms mare better but idk about the face

[wraith obsidian]

Ya, I agree it might be worse. The resolution makes it awkward it mess with.

[main comet]

i like the eyelashes on mariofan's, but the mouth is worse imo
other than that, mario's is better

[wraith obsidian]

Making revisons

Here is a version with the original lips

[nocturne socket]

,I like these il change peach and add you to credits when I can

[nocturne socket]

At this point you should be a third owner of the mod

Or well atleast in the developers part in the mod info

[wraith obsidian]

I just wanted to spruce up some sprites while helping with the bee content. I might try to help code some jokers in the future though.

[worn tinsel]

Negative deck and Rigged Daisy, or as I like to call it, "The Abandoned Bag of Holding"

[nocturne socket]

Yeah it does get a bit crazy

I wonder if I should make daisy have a very small unriggable change to get hidden spectral cards

[worn tinsel]

That'd be cool! I also think it'd be good if there was some hidden Showman-ish effect; that huge span at the end there is all Ceres cards because I have one of every consumable otherwise.

[nocturne socket]

idk why its ceres tbh

[wraith obsidian]

Sorry, last change to Peach I swear

[nocturne socket]

. |

[sleek dragon]

Author is an array you can pass each name as a seperate value (`["SMG9000", "Denverplays2", " MarioFan597"]

[nocturne socket]

oops i didnt realise i did that

[nocturne socket]

um and this is with a 99.9% max

[wraith obsidian]

oh boy

[nocturne socket]

anyways whos next

|| can we do Rosalina they need help with the arms bad||

[wraith obsidian]

Sure, no prob

[karmic dust]

You're the GOAT

[wraith obsidian]

Perhaps some other things could be changed but I'll submit this for now. Any feedback would be apperciated.

For comparison:

[nocturne socket]

Il get the original creator
@fresh elk

Thoughts

[fresh elk]

Yea i like it

[main comet]

i also like it

[fresh elk]

the hands on peach and daisy looked like that so I just did it like that

[main comet]

yea

[nocturne socket]

Yeah I realized I fid bad on daisy and peach but ok we can take that one and add mariofan to the credits

[nocturne socket]

-# The only one that needs to be redone now is daisy

[wraith obsidian]

Let me make a bee Rosalina and I'll definetly take a shot at it.

[nocturne socket]

Ok ou have done a lot for this mod

So if you ever need a break take as long as one that you need there is no rush for any of this

[wraith obsidian]

Nah. I'm good. I'm just a fan of the mod. A MarioFan.

[karmic dust]

i prefer the original crown, but everything else such as the arms and luma are done better in your new iteration imo

[wraith obsidian]

What about the old crown is missing in the new crown?

[nocturne socket]

Less detail in old

I like new

[karmic dust]

i just think the original looks clean, but the second crown fits the aesthetic quite well. Original is just a preference of mine, not necessarily a critique

[wraith obsidian]

Gotcha

[wraith obsidian]

Here is a bee Rosalina. The handling of the hair and dress was similar to Peach's. Please say something if anything looks off since we are entering Fannon territory.

Also minor change to normal Rosalina (The pixel count was off)

[nocturne socket]

nope i like it but can we give the star a little bee onesie

: 3

[karmic dust]

bee onesie would be sick

looks great though

[nocturne socket]

bump

[nocturne socket]

bump

[wraith obsidian]

Lumia Onesie version

[fresh elk]

bro

salina

[wraith obsidian]

Ha

[flat cove]

https://tenor.com/view/fant4stic-say-that-again-gif-16690486418948643620

[nocturne socket]

also should bee Rosalina be 1 in 5 change to level up all hands beecount/2 rounded up?

[wraith obsidian]

I don't know why we would make it a 1 in 5 chance from the current 1 in 8. It will already be super powerful once you get enough bees.

[nocturne socket]

acucaky i buffed both daisy and rosalina

idk why i ddi but daisy is now 1 in 3 and rosalina is now 1 in 5

[wraith obsidian]

In that case, yes that sounds good.

[nocturne socket]

wait fuck it should i make it *.5 to make gemini ok with it

[wraith obsidian]

Also, if possible, if Rosalina is rigged can she just level up all plants for each joker instead of checking and running the chance on all jokers? It would greatly increase the scoring at the end of the round that takes forever even when you have animations off when you get a ton of jokers.

[nocturne socket]

i wanted it to work with anrico where if the joker has an edition it will apply it

[wraith obsidian]

Here is a redone daisy.

For comparison

[wraith obsidian]

Bee Daisy

[nocturne socket]

I Gues you can say they where BEEdone

[wraith obsidian]

Just a warning, the character image may need to be shifted a pixel to the left

[nocturne socket]

Ŵhy

[wraith obsidian]

I think it might be slightly off center

[flat cove]

aurinko*

im sorry that mispelling hurt me so bad

[nocturne socket]

i know idk how tf to spell it

[wraith obsidian]

Also, I realized I forgot to give bee daisy the proper background.

[wraith obsidian]

Bee Waluigi

Also realized I forgot the fluff collar for daisy

[nocturne socket]

Bro is working overtime I haven't even coded/added daisy

(No need to slow down just saying lol)

[nocturne socket]

im thinking 1 in 3 chance for each joker to create (beecount*0.25) rounded up consumables when hand is played
(max of 10)

im honestly thinking of redoing daisy entierly

im thinking tarot related

[wraith obsidian]

In what way? Just spawning tarots or on tarot use?

[nocturne socket]

not sure

[wraith obsidian]

It's a bit complicated but how about this: Increases usage of tarot cards by 1 for each joker. For example, if you were to use the magician, by having just Daisy you could select up to 3 cards instead.

[nocturne socket]

maybe not sure

[wraith obsidian]

How about this: What if Daisy was just a joker/5 chance that any used consumable is duplicated on use. Basically a version of copy/paste but for all consumables?

The bee version would be a chance to create an extra copy which would still be valuable for income.

Bee Daisy: Joker/5 chance to duplicate a consumable on use. 1/4 chance (bee count) extra copies of that consumable are also created.

[nocturne socket]

hmm

[ionic mortar]

Hey @nocturne socket I'm working on a project of my own, an addon for Cryptid called "More M Mokers". However I realized it sounds like your addon, are you ok if I use this name or you want me to change it?

[nocturne socket]

Um sure you can use that name If it was more m jokers I would be a problem but since it's. MMM it should be fine

[ionic mortar]

Ty 😄

[karmic dust]

made the soul too large, but it works @nocturne socket

[nocturne socket]

Damn ok nixe

[peak adder]

front facing yoshi :)

[wraith obsidian]

Thoughts on this Bee Wario?

[karmic dust]

love it

[wraith obsidian]

I'm gonna try to redo Luigi to finish my fix-up craze, but maybe for the rest of the jokers, we can ask the original artist if they would be willing to make a bee version.

[wraith obsidian]

Thoughts on this Luigi?

I may want to redo the backplate to not clash as much

[karmic dust]

i prefer this version of luigi

the one you just posted i mean, color looks nice

[karmic dust]

When you have the chance could you do Yoshi? I'm not happy w/ the head, more so just filler atm.

[wraith obsidian]

Sure

[wraith obsidian]

I hope you don't mind Watto. I decided to completely redo Yoshi with a completely made-from-scratch sprite. It looks like something from Almanac and I can't tell if that's a good or bad thing. Thoughts would be apperciated

[nocturne socket]

Tbh I like this

[wraith obsidian]

It might be a bit too big as well. I should probably see it in gsame.

I might have to shrink it

[wraith obsidian]

I tried scaling it down but the eyes got messed up. I will revisit it tommorow.

[karmic dust]

i like this, contemplated doing something like this at first

[wraith obsidian]

Question. When are some of the new additions coming to the GitHub?

[karmic dust]

Not sure, SMG doesn't think a lot of the coding side stuff is ready or is just subject to change. Yesterday we did make a seperate branch though

[karmic dust]

if you'd like to test this is the link to the seperate branch: https://github.com/smg9000/Cryptid-MoreMarioJokers/tree/0.3.0-testing hope this helps

[nocturne socket]

Most of it Is ready

I just need to fix,some stuff and rework daisy

[wraith obsidian]

We still need to finish up the bee stuff, but here are some ideas for other future powerups (Apologies for the size):

(Synergies with enhancements, ranks, or hands)
Metal Cap: Synergy with steel cards
Mini Mushroom: Synergy with 2s
Mega Mushroom Synergy with 10s?
Rock Mushroom: Synergy with stone cards
Lucky Bell: Synergy with lucky cards
Gold Flower: Synergy with gold cards
Super Crown: Synergy with face cards
Light Box?/Bulb Berry?: Synergy with light cards
Boomerang Flower: Synergy with echo cards
Vanish Cape: Synergy with None hand (possibly to be implemented into cryptid)

(General Buffs)
Super Mushroom: Just a more powerful version of the base effect
Fire Flower: Extra Mult
Ice Flower: Extra Chips
Penguin Suit: Xchips?
Super Star: ^mult

[nocturne socket]

i like these

[obsidian hornet]

Mega could be synergy with AKQJs. Those are what Huge cards synergize with in Almanac (well, on Planet Cards anyway, ordinarily they just multiply all values by 100).

[nocturne socket]

Thoughts on metal cap art @wraith obsidian

I suck so bad 😭

[wraith obsidian]

That's not bad in all honesty! Try giving it a black outline and I think it could work!

[pliant jewel]

wrong box from the game nerd me pov, but amazing

[nocturne socket]

?

[pliant jewel]

sm64 has different style boxes

[nocturne socket]

There's more boxes?

I need an image of it

[pliant jewel]

f

still good art tho

[wraith obsidian]

I guess we need to also make another base power up card then

[pliant jewel]

just dont

[nocturne socket]

It's still trying to send the revised metal hat

[wraith obsidian]

Looks good. Might straight out the curves on the back and maybe make the brim a little bigger but overall its good!

[nocturne socket]

Wtf is a brim

Sorry for My stupidity

[wraith obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9OS_tfnekE

[nocturne socket]

This made me laugh so hard

[nocturne socket]

Also mini mushroom

[wraith obsidian]

Nice

Can't wait to see it in game

Maybe mini mush could use a black outline

[pliant scaffold]

hey what editing software do you use?

[flat cove]

its probably aesprite or smth

[nocturne socket]

Pixel studio on mobile

[pliant scaffold]

thx

[flat cove]

im gonna have to try that at some point ty

[nocturne socket]

It's kinda bad tbh

It has ads
A maximum resolution (not thay big)

[wraith obsidian]

If you have a computer, use Kirita. It isn't specifically made for pixel ar,t but its what I use. It is completely free if you get it from their main site with no ads since its open source.

[boreal radish]

Aseprite is really good for making spritesheets

[main comet]

i use aseprite

(technically libresprite but they’re the same)

[mild abyss]

Hey can edit some of joker sprit for my own mod as long as credit the artist who originally made them?

The art I would edit would be mario and peach joker.

[snow bison]

probably a crash related to rosalina? let me sell rosalina and then play a hand

[mild echo]

:3

How's things going here?

[nocturne socket]

bro wtf can this joker not break fro once

[nocturne socket]

hmmm maybe it could be more Bee

like yellow and black stripes?

[vagrant sluice]

oh

[nocturne socket]

i likke that

[wraith obsidian]

Apologies for being nit picky. Maybe make the body all yellow, but just make the mask strap and the belt strap black instead?

[nocturne socket]

that honestly might make more sense

[fast prairie]

could you consider crossmod compat with beelatro letting the bee versions count as bees?

[wraith obsidian]

This is compat with beelatro. They already count as bees.

[fast prairie]

great

[nocturne socket]

I need to bring this back and keep making it

[nocturne socket]

@grave aspen me and Denver need the addon role : 3

[grave aspen]

ik

[nocturne socket]

Thank you

[nocturne socket]

I couldn't even find my own link
https://github.com/smg9000/Cryptid-MoreMarioJokers/tree/main

[main comet]

lol

[nocturne socket]

@mild echo OR @main comet

Do either of you want to make a form In The balatro modding discord I'm too lazy to do it myself

[main comet]

i would do it, but why not you?

[nocturne socket]

Um I'm lazy

Also I'm on mobile

And I hate dealing with dc mobile

[main comet]

how about i write it and you just copy/paste it

[nocturne socket]

Sure ig that works

[nocturne socket]

But yeahbim thinking {n}100
Where n is the amount of jokers or whatever

[main comet]

A mod that adds a multitude of Legendary Jokers based on characters from the Nintendo franchise. Includes removed Jokers from Cryptid like Mario and Luigi, plus a load of others like Donkey Kong, Shy Guy, Rosalina, and Lakitu.

Original Thread in Cryptid: https://discord.com/channels/1264429948970733782/1312863526775291945

Github: https://github.com/smg9000/Cryptid-MoreMarioJokers

short and sweet

oh and uh wait

[nocturne socket]

My phone is at 10

And I'm not near a charger

[nocturne socket]

what am I waiting for

[main comet]

i had to edit the message to include the thread and github, is all

i just forgot to say it was done

you can post it now

oh wait

what's the actual name of the mod?

"MoreMarioJokers," "More Mario Jokers," etc

[nocturne socket]

Either or second looks more visually appealing

[main comet]

we'll say second

[nocturne socket]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1366561648906600489

[main comet]

i just read it and noticed that i used multitude twice

[nocturne socket]

...

[main comet]

can you replace
"...plus a multitude of others like..."
with
"plus many others like"

i'm tweaking out

[nocturne socket]

I changed it to plus loads of others

[main comet]

loads works

🔥

[nocturne socket]

Anyways thoughs on the op part

[main comet]

op part?

[nocturne socket]

^^^

[main comet]

oh that would be cool

[nocturne socket]

Like hyper operators

[main comet]

yeah

m
This Joker gains ^0.1 Mult for every Joker at end of round

air
^^n Mult, where n is equal to the number of Jokers owned

yes

[nocturne socket]

{N}n

Where n is the amount of consumables
And N is the amount of jokers

Idk mult or chips this is kinda. Shitpost idea

[main comet]

peak

[nocturne socket]

Idk I might make a power up that can be used on the mario jokers to create op versions

[main comet]

When Blind selected, +n Hands, where n is equal to the number of empty Joker slots

qae8irgahf

[nocturne socket]

Like maybe rosalina will upgrade chips and mult of leveled hands by {n}3 where n is the amount of jokers

Plus the original idea

[main comet]

good lord

i love these

[obsidian hornet]

What would the power-up be? The Invincibility Leaf?

[mild echo]

Do you mean a Forum?

[nocturne socket]

Yeah but I got it made thanks to glitchkat

[nocturne socket]

No idea maybe invincibility leaf is that like the most op powerup

I also have to rework daisy because I don't know if I like there current effect

It's too eh I want to do something that isn't locked behind probability

[obsidian hornet]

The Invincibility Leaf is an assist power-up for players who are bad at the game that's basically a Super Leaf combined with a Super Star, but with no time limit. There's also a Super Bell equivalent, so maybe a combination of the three enhanced versions of the Super Bell would be fitting if we're going for Omegatranscendant levels of power?

[mild echo]

@grave aspen Do you mind if I ping you to get one of these roles? I helped with the Joker effects for most of the original Jokers added here.

[merry condor]

which jokers did you actually make the effects for

[main comet]

pretty sure it’s about half of them

[mild echo]

Basically all of the ones that this addon started out with.

Also, some of them were changed from the actual porting into the game, mostly for coding convenience or balance.
I think I also gave a new luck-based effect for Luigi as well.

[merry condor]

i see

drago can give his thughts ig

[grave aspen]

I mean the effects of jokers i find is where people tend to find a road block, and that is at least half of the current implemented jokers

[main comet]

yea

[mild echo]

Thank ya! https://tenor.com/view/rat-mouse-like-thumbs-up-rat-thumbs-up-gif-26155558

[meager shuttle]

name your sources ahh gif

[nocturne socket]

Yeah I mean they helped start the project soo they Def deserve it

[nocturne socket]

I still need to make a good idea for daisy the Consumable for every joker is a bad idea

Shop price decrease was to jank

[wraith obsidian]

Maybe it should tie into Super Mario Land? There were 4 worlds which each had 3 levels. Maybe it could have some synergy with 4's and 3's? Would synergize well with shyguy.

[nocturne socket]

yeah maybe

[nocturne socket]

maybe retrigger 4s and 3s twice for every joker?

[wraith obsidian]

Sure, that could work

[main comet]

reword:

When Blind selected, double the values of half your jokers until end of round

[mortal parcel]

oh these are fun ideas. captain toad sounds really chaotic lol

[nocturne socket]

But only half of mutatable jokers

[main comet]

it assumes

also, it would be mutable

not mutatable

[nocturne socket]

I'm an idiot ok

[main comet]

nah

[nocturne socket]

@main comet
@mild echo
@karmic dust
@wraith obsidian

-# (sry for the ping)

I see you 4 as some "Major" people for mmj and I was wondering if you guys wanted to start a group chat so I can ask about possible ideas

[main comet]

yea that would be peak

[karmic dust]

^

[nocturne socket]

Ok IL add the ones who agree to a group chat

[mild echo]

Mayhaps, lemme know when you make it!

[pliant trench]

#i-need-help message

i found most of the added mario cards don’t rig properly

[nocturne socket]

Huh does jt work?

Like is it just visual

[pliant trench]

i couldnt tell i thought that it did not but maybe i was just tripping?

[pliant trench]

it was a visual glitch

[pliant jewel]

i exist

[nocturne socket]

Hmmmm your more of an artist most of those people are people who usually help with ideas

Its why George the rat isn't added

[pliant jewel]

ah ojk

[mild echo]

Oh hey, one of the main Balatrotubers showcased our stuff! :D
(Or at least, had one of the Jokers in the thumbnail.)

[nocturne socket]

Cool

Wait is that the old luigi

[nocturne socket]

Yeah no that's just old recording

Because it doesn't have the (needs refactor)

[mild echo]

Ah...it's only being posted now?

[nocturne socket]

Yeah lol

Atleast it might bring people looking for luigi LOL

[meager shuttle]

can we get this pinned

[nocturne socket]

I should make an update adding demicolon compatability

[hollow blade]

well i sure did immediately come looking here thinking it was this mod lol

[mild echo]

Time to invoke an ancient technique that I haven't used in months...

Pant...pant...

@fathom junco!!!

[mild echo]

( This one, pls.) <3

[fathom junco]

Wh

This is outside my jurisdiction

I have no power here

I appreciate the thought, though

[nocturne socket]

@grave aspen sorry to bother you but can you quickly pin this plz

[mortal parcel]

bee mario

[mortal parcel]

bee mario

[mild echo]

Oop, my bad, I thought you did the same as in the main Balatro server. :p

[peak adder]

I’ve been playing a bit more (mainly on madness combined with Cardsauce & a few other mods) and tbh the new jokers are really fun (Rosa on Varg deck is extra powerful)

[mild echo]

:3

[finite ferry]

what exactly does the toad joker do?

[heavy plover]

Hey does anyone have a full list of the Mario jokers? Hella curious

[nocturne socket]

Uh no ima kinda dead for a while but k can make one when I'm free too do you want effect or just names

[gleaming torrent]

Just downloaded the mod and the Game crashes every time i run it

[nocturne socket]

log

[gleaming torrent]

Nvm, i reinstalled everything and worked, no worries g

[nocturne socket]

: |

well if you download the latest commit ig you get free wip stuff

bc i also found a cash and thought that was what you were talking about

crash*

[gleaming torrent]

Sometimes it crashes mid run idk why, i'll send the report when it crashes again

[junior oyster]

Someone should add this to the wiki maybe idk

[static sage]

i'm on it

[static sage]

aight, got the basic page up

[nocturne socket]

Bet sick

[nocturne socket]

Surprise info yellow is how many times the least played poker hand has been played with a minimum of 1

[paper ruin]

This mod requires cryptid to be installed right?

[fossil mortar]

It's a cryptid addon, so yes

[paper ruin]

Is there a reason it doesn't have cryptid in the json requirements?

Just talked to someone who couldn't understand why MMJ was crashing

[nocturne socket]

oops

[paper ruin]

as long as you change it it's all good

[static sage]

and i'm guessing ties are broken by the lowest-ranked hand?

[nocturne socket]

Correct

[nocturne socket]

Il change it when I can

[paper ruin]

Would you like me to put in a PR?

[nocturne socket]

If you could that would be fantastic 🧡

[paper ruin]

Done https://github.com/smg9000/Cryptid-MoreMarioJokers/pull/14

[meager shuttle]

paper mario

[summer crag]

Why are Luma cards all blank and seemingly broken?

[nocturne socket]

Broken?

You mean op broken or broken broken

I still need to make the descriptions for them

[summer crag]

I see, it's likely I just didn't notice the effects then

Ill check though

(Likely me not being observant)

[nocturne socket]

New commit just droped added some sprites and made some of the descriptions

[summer crag]

Niceee and also yes I completely missed the effects haha, only thing I was still confused on was vouchers but I’m guessing they increase either their tarots or maybe marios

[molten island]

some lumas just crash the game

[harsh coyote]

MMJ works pretty well but some of the Luma’s crash the game (Orange Luma i think crashes no matter what). I also picked up the voucher that gives you a luma every pack you open and after a couple antes, it kept crashing when i would buy a booster pack

[molten island]

same thing happened to me but i bought the ticket voucher from more fluff

so that might mean something

or anything

[nocturne socket]

@molten island @harsh coyote I am terribly sorry for the crashes you guys experienced i think orange crashed because of how they reworked ascended hands maybe but I have no clue on the voucher I was burnt put from balatro but I need to come back and finish this update. Sorry for the late response but if you 2 can DM me the logs for the voucher crash that would be appreciated

[vagrant sluice]

hi

[nocturne socket]

Hello

[vagrant sluice]

im back lol

[molten island]

k

[nocturne socket]

@molten island @harsh coyote sorry for the ping but the bugs should be fixed in teh latest commit

[molten island]

🃏

orange luma works

[mighty tinsel]

nice to see you are working on your mod again

[agile shale]

Dead Mod

[nocturne socket]

yeah sorry il bring it back to life soon ive been all over the place

[undone jolt]

take your time

[nocturne socket]

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