#💬│windrose-chat

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opaque kindle
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You can redistribute stat points and talents points for free, anytime you want. Have fun my guy.

trim oasis
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Since I went full vitality/agility, going back to a level 1 character and seeing how low the health bar is horrifying to say the least, even when I'm starving I got like 5 bars

crude thicket
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Im level 3 currently with a halberd and 4 strength 4 endurance, but feeling like I'll be able to fight above my level a lot better witha ranged weapon build after realizing I WILL DIE trying to fight a single above my level or multiple at or above my level with a crude damage melee weapon.

uncut gyro
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Hahha! Got 'em up out of the water!

opaque kindle
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In any end-game or higher difficulty setting, parry is a huuuuuge factor in any fight. And I'm pretty sure all str based weps (correct me if I am wrong here) cannoy parry, only block.

golden ore
digital spindle
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Lmaoo

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I feel im almost done with my game i just need to upgrade my loot its still level 6 😭

trim oasis
digital spindle
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And im lvl 12 as well

trim oasis
hot river
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I have one single hidden chest standing between me and lvl 15. Unfortunately I must be blind as a bat. I can only find 7/8 at Ancient Fire Sanctuary

fiery vine
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i already know which one 🤣

pine heart
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Just "finished" the current build.....only thing I didnt love was the lack of a closure quest after the priestess....Keep up the great work.....Tier 3 ships took a minute.......but they do some serious work!

hot river
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any clues?

pine heart
hot river
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yes

uncut gyro
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Huh. So my ship's cannon don't fire anything anymore. I get the puff of smoke and the blam, but no satisfying wooden crunch or damage.

pine heart
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Its prolly the hidden wall chest that took me a day to find lol

plain egret
# hot river yes

There’s a scrap wall to break down on the top level, and once u walk in it’s immediately at ur sharp left another scrap wall to break down with ur pickaxe, ez to miss for sure

pine heart
# hot river yes

Assuming thats the one, in one of the rooms with the jars, its between that room and the next and you're looking towards the inside not the outside

fiery vine
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THAT ROOM

digital spindle
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Make it urs

hot river
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Bingo! Thank you!!!!!!

gaunt meteor
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Keep running around and looking, enjoy the pain!!!

digital spindle
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So since u guys beat the game wut have yall been doing?

fiery vine
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play other game

radiant lion
gaunt meteor
plain egret
pine heart
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Im gunna finish buying everything then build a fancier base than my current singular house on the starting island 😂

plain egret
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And occasionally helping ppl out with progression

digital spindle
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I need to restock on money again

pine heart
plain egret
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My friends and I are currently in the cycle of me having the most time to play so I’m essentially prepping 4 players worth of resources

digital spindle
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I gad 6k i gave 3k to my hg and now i spent on 5 merchants

plain egret
radiant lion
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im ready for war

pine heart
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Killing the tier 3 warriors drops some good cash flow too

analog viper
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just beat the game, havent had this much fun in a game in so long

rapid goblet
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hola...

pale vault
analog viper
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now to wait 5 and a half months for the next content update 💔

proper prism
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what does beat the game mean

pale vault
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Swamp boss and I all current quests

analog viper
proper prism
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so you killed all the bosses and conquered every island and got the biggest ship?

analog viper
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plus maxed all my armor, weapons, and ship

proper prism
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oh

pale vault
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Remember there's altars on the first swamp island you go to for main quest. You can't read em at first.

rancid sierra
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And after all of that... it is time... to finally play the game.

  • Adds a flower pot in front of his cube house.
    Perfection.
digital spindle
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So im at 600 silver

uncut gyro
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anyone know if there's a way to fix ship cannon not firing any cannonballs? The only results I got for searching were for modded issues, but I nae be runnin' any mods

pale vault
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Make sure they are equipped? Edit: I'm not jesting I run 3 boats so far. Stuff gets hectic when you have three fleets spawn at base and gold fever hit.

uncut gyro
azure cloak
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Anyone new or have a new toon they want to level with someone?

uncut gyro
pale vault
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Hmm I haven't used the perfectly ordered ones but don't they do a different timing than the other ones?

uncut gyro
# analog viper are you using chainshot?

Chain shot doesn't seem to change anything... but:

Okay, so next level of oddity: nothing comes out of any of my Brig's cannon, but my frigate's starboard cannon (both kinds) WILL fire. Tried both round shot and chain shot.

And to elaborate: I've been using all these just fine until just recently.

fresh haven
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Sounds like you need to restart your cannons. Have you powered them off and back on?

ionic vector
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Can only designate one ship at a time, so if your trying to use 2 at once, ummm

pale vault
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Sometimes the boomer solutions just work.

open sonnet
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A user was having a software problem today, and I had him reboot his PC, and it fixed the problem.

uncut gyro
pine heart
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You can have multiple ships, personally I have my t2 ship set as my flagship and only take the big boy out for slaughter.....if I somehow manage to sink it I can summon my fast t2 to run 😂

pale vault
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It's just good business

analog viper
uncut gyro
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I did already exit to main menu and load my world up again. Looks like next step is restart game, then restart compy.

After that I'll restart the whole internet 😈

uncut gyro
fresh haven
ionic vector
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Blackbeard frig holds 24 and 36 pounders

plain egret
olive ermine
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Petition to be able to load all random seeds into any blunderbuss and when shooting a farm soil plot it just plants all of the seeds instantly

dull tree
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is ten skill points right for lvl ten?

plain egret
shy shuttle
wispy dew
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Played the beta and got this on release, just noticed there was a discord, lol. Hi everyone

shy shuttle
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oh lol

fallen ether
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of course the blackbeard varients have larger cannons. Blackedbeard even

pure condor
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really wish this game had shields to use with 1hand weapons

thick haven
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How many merchant stalls are there in total?

olive ermine
thick haven
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I got em all then 🙂

wispy dew
olive ermine
wispy dew
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Didn't say I liked it lol

olive ermine
wispy dew
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The body blocking by crewmates while I'm getting hit threw them after you board a ship made me almost break my keyboard

dull tree
fresh haven
olive ermine
uncut gyro
# olive ermine Ground combat is unfun and jank. Yes or no?

I've adapted to it now. It's not the cleanest, but it is consistent.

My favourite style is what I call "mosquito" combat, where I stack endurance and precision with a rapier and pistol. Poke poke run, poke poke run, repeat. Feels quite piratey 😄

olive ermine
uncut gyro
rancid sierra
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I do not have crab hands to properly move, dodge, and use the alt key to aim a pistol. So I go greatsword and blunderbuss. >.>
Not being able to attack cancel to dodge is... troublesome with my old man reaction speed.
"Oh. I'm going to get slapped halfway through this swing."

fresh haven
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Yeah I would love dodge cancelling because some of these interactions feel like you need to be frame perfect...

olive ermine
rancid sierra
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If I see Fallen Valkyries and Morgen out in the Ashlands, I'mma riot.

abstract aspen
olive ermine
rancid sierra
# abstract aspen always wondering whats so perfect about valheim tbh..its got a good base but ult...

It always feels like you're improving. Each new island, each new biome, each new ore and bug part your pick up, all of it gives you new recipes and new gear to go to the next place.
The game feels rewarding.
Then you go blind in the mistlands in the purple fog, then you walk into the Ashlands. Shudder.
And then stay in the Ashlands for two years with tiny little dev notes talking about the north but not actually giving it to us... for two years... 🙁

uncut gyro
spring nebula
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Finally tried my hand at farming. Growed some corn.

olive ermine
uncut gyro
olive ermine
abstract aspen
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if it was so much like valheim i def wouldnt have played it

digital spindle
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Oof

rancid sierra
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Palworld is a nice game that had been compared to one or two other games.... :p

abstract aspen
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inspiration is there for sure..but i see other games in windrose as well

olive ermine
abstract aspen
uncut gyro
rancid sierra
# fresh haven Bait...?

Nah. It has been called all of that before.
A lot of it because of building, or the glider aspect. The glider from Breath of the Wild is very memorable. A lot of other mechanics were similar to other games. Base building and pets was very Ark like, or minecraft like.

fresh haven
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Ah. I never ended up playing Palworld but I saw a few designs of the pals (maybe cherrypicked) and they're very very very heavily inspired by certain pokemon 😭

rancid sierra
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Enshrouded got slapped with the 'Valheim like' and 'BotW like' labels too. And Minecraft.

olive ermine
olive ermine
fast orchid
uncut gyro
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Huh. So restarted my game and verified file integrity. My brig still ain't firing any cannoballs (round, or chain). Waht teh fork?

olive ermine
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@uncut gyro it lacks mechanical depth of a true souls game and it is not snappy and arcady to be enjoyable. This combat is half measure

abstract aspen
rancid sierra
fresh haven
fast orchid
uncut gyro
fast orchid
abstract aspen
fresh haven
abstract aspen
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so uncanny

fresh haven
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Like they even gave him the ears and the floppy things...

magic igloo
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Can you Dive in this game at all????

rancid sierra
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"All fox Pals are Eevees."
"...can't they just be... you know... foxes?"
"Eevees."

olive ermine
rancid sierra
fast orchid
magic igloo
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I want to be able to do more on the ships then just fight. fishing and diving for loot would be amazing xD whaleing... WHALEING!!!!

abstract aspen
thick haven
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is there only the cooking fire pit or is there something that looks more like a stove/oven at some point?

fast orchid
# fresh haven

It's almost like the thing they both based their designs in have similar defining features,

fresh haven
abstract aspen
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there is so many "can i copy you homework" mons in there..its crazy they didnt get issues for that kekkk

delicate saffron
olive ermine
rancid sierra
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Your Pal sheep looks just like our Pokemon sheep!
...Aren't they both... you know..... sheep?

abstract aspen
delicate saffron
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u can dress it up a bit tho thats what ive done

uncut gyro
fast orchid
rancid sierra
uncut gyro
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hodop, I sailed out to sea and started firing wildly, me cannonballs are back!

gaunt meteor
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The reward for the final boss is ridiculous...

thick haven
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At least you can use the decor items like chairs and benches lol

rancid sierra
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I think that's gonna be a bug report. Because it persisted past the ship being broken down and rebuilt...
Oh not. Grats. Hope it stays that way.

delicate saffron
gaunt meteor
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You literally get better loot from Plague crushers

olive ermine
rancid sierra
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Well, the last boss of the swamp is just there to unlock Ashlands, like Mr. Hands and the first guy.

gaunt meteor
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Isreal hands had a great reward.

olive ermine
gaunt meteor
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Thomas Richards reward was also lame

olive ermine
delicate saffron
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i wonder what kind of environment ashlands will be

gaunt meteor
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I suspect quite warm and smoldering.

delicate saffron
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a desert vibe would be cool

rancid sierra
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I did not notice Keanu Reeves in the boss chamber, and had to go back and give Mr. Hands a second handshake a few days ago. >.>

gaunt meteor
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So.... Who do we think John Doe really is?

thick haven
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Jane Doe's brother

olive ermine
fallen hedge
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anyone else having connection issues? my buddies dedicated server keeps crashing for some reason

shy shuttle
rancid sierra
unkempt obsidian
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hey r we going to get under waster staff and sharks ^_^????

dull tree
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give us this armorrr

shy shuttle
gaunt meteor
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I wanna kill redcoats!!!

shy shuttle
magic igloo
magic igloo
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LMFAO

olive ermine
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Anyone got special shanties they wanna hear in WR? For me its Randy Dandy-oh and Roll the old Chariot along

rancid sierra
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I wonder where the lucky fishing pole could possibly be hiding in Enshrouded...

I am slightly confused as to how this didn't happen in Windrose.

gaunt meteor
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If i was a dev, Id make that 'X', then specifically put the treasure somewhere else.

rancid sierra
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"Congratulations. Your shovel found the buried cache of black powder!"

lavish sentinel
gaunt meteor
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Lets be honest, the fun parts of games are overrated, the true fun is wanting to throw your keyboard and curbstomp your monitor.

rancid sierra
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Goat Leader launching me sixty yards down a mountainside was an experience, yes.

lavish sentinel
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Goat Leader launching me into the water after using my last bit of stamina to fail a dodge attempt and drown with my last remaining health while ragdolled...

gaunt meteor
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good times amiright?

lavish sentinel
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He just thought I needed Hydration Ig

olive ermine
gaunt meteor
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Now it is time for me to reup on Cane sugar and Rum Bottles

lavish sentinel
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Meanwhile I'm slaying every damn Plague thrall I can for Giggity Powder

gaunt meteor
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That comes after cane sugar and rum bottles

mystic kiln
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friend and I just killed first boss but he died mid fight and didnt get credit, any fixes?

lavish sentinel
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He gotta stay alive I'm afraid.

mystic kiln
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boss is dead and he didnt get credit

green flare
shell echo
lavish sentinel
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Like Kronos said, use the blue thing to reset the boss trial

gaunt meteor
mystic kiln
wild hull
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is there

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any setting to not drop your items after you die?

tawdry oar
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no

wild hull
tawdry oar
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At least you keep weapons foods potions armor etc so you have a chance of getting it back

shell echo
tepid egret
shell echo
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if you didnt drop anything you would have almost 0 death penalty

wild hull
shell echo
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you will get better, also gear is insanely important, I recommend all your gear and weapons to be level 3 if you're fighting level 3 monsters and such

tepid egret
olive ermine
pale vault
wild hull
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dodos and boars are hitting me harder than a wrecking ball T_T

tawdry oar
tepid egret
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if ur quick enough trap them in fences and then kill them

wild hull
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but im enjoying the game so far!

lavish sentinel
wild hull
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im just bad at fighting stuff here, not complaying XD

olive ermine
chrome timber
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I don’t know if I should be kind this week or not… hmm.

pale vault
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there's a dodge button too so dont just parry and block. shake trees for coconuts, one you start getting boars down, raid some dodos for eggs and you got a decent meal

olive ermine
lavish sentinel
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The sweet potato and meat dish is Goated Early on.

pale vault
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but yeah the early boars wear our skins as their armor

rancid sierra
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I was told this way too late in the game, but you can HOLD the control/dodge button and it'll keep dodging until you run out of stamina. :p

chrome timber
pastel frigate
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Better not be a smart a**, you'll have somebody start complaying. @chrome timber

quiet magnet
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Any word on new content soon?

olive ermine
pastel frigate
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@quiet magnet

quiet magnet
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Thanks guys

proper prism
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this game needs fish traps, the pole fishing is like a horse tranquilizer

charred perch
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also needs locking doors and storage. seeing so many people talking about there stuff getting taken and even their bases being destroyed.

vivid sun
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i am wondering as i am running around exploring i keep finding stuff on the ground on the shores and such is this ok to pick up??

shell echo
# vivid sun i am wondering as i am running around exploring i keep finding stuff on the grou...

Are you on a server? If you're solo its stuff that got destroyed while certain monsters fight etc, some are aggressive towards each other (2nd biome spoiler if you're not there yet) could also be stuff you dropped earlier at some stage, it doesn't currently despawn afaik at all.

If you're talking about live crabs and stuff thats just normal way of gathering them, and logs and rocks that are lying around.

pure condor
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buried a campfire

green flare
shell echo
hasty swan
green flare
hasty swan
rancid sierra
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I just wish we had less smoke. It slaps my fps every time I walk into my sad base.

green flare
hasty swan
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whos lgio?

pure condor
hasty swan
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and whats funny about heating a cold ocean

raven dagger
olive ermine
pure condor
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they need to make the shovel to be able to work under a damn roof

rancid sierra
# hasty swan whos lgio?

lgio is Let's Game it Out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpejN5lBKSQ
If you ever need to see a game completely destroyed, Josh is your man.

green flare
uncut gyro
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Is there anything to do with minor healing potions? I've made enough of the next tier to never worry about it (and Galen only wants to give me the lesser potions).

knotty harness
rancid sierra
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That's how youtube shortens it's own links. But I'll swap it to long form.

orchid bison
proper prism
uncut gyro
proper prism
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same

pale vault
mystic kiln
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which brig do yall think is best?

uncut gyro
barren finch
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any tips for defeating Richard? lol

knotty harness
pale vault
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I went brethren but I like extended privateering.

Dodge that grab and slam and you get a bunch of free hits on him

final crane
knotty harness
radiant lion
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jk

zinc knoll
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ashlands when?

knotty harness
ocean smelt
uncut gyro
final crane
digital cloud
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Anyone run into issues building bridges and having stability issues? Even when getting creative with supports we are running into issues extending our bridge.

zinc knoll
golden ore
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mellow solstice
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just got the game today, and tbh this might be peak pirate game already and I aint even really do much with my ship yet. Anywhere to post any kinda suggestions? cause tbh this whole "everyone is gonna swarm you and spam moves" makes combat kinda annoying, and I think it should definitely be at least "one dude steps forward, swap out sometimes/2v1s max" cause 8 dudes jumping me was NOT fun 😭

uncut gyro
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big tangent from Windrose, but:

What I love the most about getting Rickroll'd is that Rick sang that he's "never gonna give you up, let you down, run around, desert you", and then he had a kid with his wife and he basically quit his musical career to do exactly those things. I'm glad he got a (pretty zany) comeback. I love that guy 😄

pale vault
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It's about baiting them, also remember you can build.

golden ore
final crane
rancid sierra
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The Halberd is great for telling a large amount of people to back off.
But for the pirate camps that have eight people in em, you just kinda have to bait them out in twos and threes. Rushing into the dead center of it... makes ya dead pretty quick at the start.

uncut gyro
mellow solstice
final crane
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you can always switch to a weapon that takes on larger groups like the saber or halbeard

knotty harness
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I have found greatsword to be very nice for large groups. The heavy attack is a stab that goes out relatively quickly too, rather than a slow overhead smash. Stops attacks from whoever it hits.

final crane
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still haven't tried that weapon out, I need to

knotty harness
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If you have one, yes. I got a Dueling Greatsword pretty early on and it sorta ended up being my main weapon until I got the ghost sword. I still might switch back to it since its healing feature isn't on a timer namazuthink

final crane
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my go to is still a razer, makes me crit happy

ashen flare
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Do we craft the epic weapons, or do they come out of the chest already as epic?

golden ore
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i play a very defensive rapier/pistol setup with a focus on spacing - but i've many years of practice with the concepts/practice of spacing in melee souls-like combat so it's easy for me

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the key is to not take swings with your weapon while enemies are taking uninterruptible swings themselves

recognizing which enemy attacks are interruptible is just practice

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greatsword and halberd do a better job with staggering enemies etc

final crane
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don't forget blunderbuss can yeet non-bosses in to the ocean 😄

radiant lion
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wtf why cant i equip the 36 pounder

knotty harness
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Only the Blackbeard Frigate can use that, and only one of them

golden ore
knotty harness
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On the one hand I sort of want to build a BB Frigate at some point. On the other hand, I dunno where I'd put it

radiant lion
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i hahve the blackbeard brig

golden ore
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then you are not meeting one of the two prerequisites - the brig cannot have 36 pounders, only the bb frigate

knotty harness
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I wonder if the dismantler can handle cannons..

radiant lion
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ok

golden ore
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obviously realism isn't consistent in windrose at all but putting 36 pounders on a brig would be... pretty much suicidal

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most pirate ships had just a couple sixpounders on the deck, they didn't actually want to fight ship to ship

even frigates struggled with breeching 36 pounders, so they were mostly found on ships of the line

topaz snow
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I can already tell this game is going to become a new addiction.

uncut gyro
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just a peppy li'l zipper with some poot to keep 'em at bay.

golden ore
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yeah we can't even make sloops

ketches were typically merchant vessels

regal wagon
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I need a 120 gun first rate with some 64s

ashen flare
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Some people get hit by the crocodile and barely lose any HP, but I die in 4 hits from a boar. What do I need to upgrade?

golden ore
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your armor

surreal sierra
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Which is a Damb shame I loved the cutter

golden ore
ashen flare
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I have a level 5 pirate set.

delicate furnace
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that is why

proper prism
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you are becoming very powerful

olive ermine
sour sundial
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I would've loved a cutter honestly. Hopefully it has a place in the game going forward and we can build it again.

olive ermine
uncut gyro
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Weeeiihh weeiihhh Bully in the Allley

lavish python
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why the heck are we not aloud to use this as a bed when traveling?
it's right there.

uncut gyro
rancid sierra
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Because the sharp grappling hook/anchor under it would bust your butt if you slept there.
(The game really exceptionally does not like moving beds.)

earnest shuttle
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I do hope ship decoration will be a thing

orchid ruin
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Nothing to see here, mateys. Just an accident...

spice bane
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Can you drop silver? I dropped 1100 and it seems to have just disappeared

radiant lion
hasty jasper
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awesome game lots of fun but if you want players to stay you have got to roll out some content updates, my buddy and I have already purchased everything upgraded ships have a full base and more coin than we will ever need nothing left to do but keep battling and boarding ships, while fun does get old very quickly. we need more content and maybe some pvp

shell echo
hasty jasper
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@shell echo true weve done the play through a few times

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devs got to ad more and more content if they want to keep player base , for example once" light no fire " releases this game has no chance , come on a game with a world a 1 to 1 scale of the earth ..you'll never see all of the game in a life time and so much more to do

keen dove
keen dove
feral kettle
# hasty jasper awesome game lots of fun but if you want players to stay you have got to roll ou...

Everything is just to accessible for my tastes. The content is fine, but this game is so ... ultra casual. I mean being able to repec at will anytime, for zero cost. The ability to summon my ship to my feet...as long as i'm on the shore... at zero cost, no cool down. No death penalty? No fall damage? Night time comes does it get cold? Do I make a camp to stay warm or sleep through the night? NOPE. My "rested bonus" lasts nearly an hour and is matched automatically by my boat. I thought (THOUGHT) i was actually going ot have to work for my frigate as it (and its upgrades) need a lot of hard wood. Then I realized I had a vendor who would just order me 10 crates of hardwood for 500 silver coins. My base NEVER gets attacked. I honestly feel like i'm playing "creative mode". THEY MARKETED THIS AS A SURVIVAL GAME.

feral kettle
feral kettle
uncut gyro
# feral kettle I don't know anyone named danny

Neither did he. But a grandiose tryhard that didn't acknowledge that genuinely any other game would provide the nonsense he asked for was kinda ... became a cryptozoological being that just wanted the hardest BS for everyone because ONLY HE could do something fun.

Not saying that's you, but goddamn you're kinda seeming like it

feral kettle
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All i do now is log on every 6 hours to go farm the ship wreck site with the silver ingots and that pirate excavation site for gold ingots, and then i upgrade my rings and necklaces and then (for free) respec into a different weapon/armor set and find out nothing is really as good as the plague halbard.

pure dome
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uh i don't know where to ask this but is there a channel to find people to play with?? i just got the game and im a little turned around

pure dome
keen dove
feral kettle
fresh haven
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as long as you don't ask for pvp 😭

feral kettle
keen dove
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This game has a lot of similarities with valheim but it is very different in terms of having way more quality of life features than valheim

keen dove
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Exactly

feral kettle
keen dove
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The drag and build option makes building much faster and more fun

feral kettle
keen dove
feral kettle
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Maybe there will be some mods that give windrose a little more bite.

keen dove
feral kettle
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Well... 1) death penalty 2) fall damage 3) No free respecs 4) disable fast travel 5) no waypoints on maps (no quest hand holding) 6) if you're gonna have vendors sell stuff... don't let them sell it cheap. That's my quick and dirty list. Big problem I have is that Windrose is officially marketed and categorized as a survival game, specifically an "open-world pirate survival adventure"and I think any game w/ out a death penalty and without fall damage can't be a called a survival game.

keen dove
feral kettle
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Let me ask you guys this... are you tired of sinking pirate ships and how many "rare combat repair kits" do you have in your base's inventory? Got enough Steel nails ? You haven't actually had to make your own repair kit. You literally get one (or more)ever time you loot a pirate. I just hope they have world settings that take the game out of create mode and make it what it is advertised as ...a pirate survival game.

regal wagon
keen dove
feral kettle
fiery vine
#

yes u can

keen dove
regal wagon
delicate furnace
#

the reg repair kits, you cant. the combat repair kits you can

vestal cypress
keen dove
feral kettle
regal wagon
keen dove
feral kettle
#

Like i said... Windrose is officially marketed and categorized as a survival game, specifically an "open-world pirate survival adventure"... that is where I feel cheated. good night folks.

keen dove
vestal cypress
#

Some people just aren't survival crafting gamers who enjoy putting thousands of hours in as I described above. They'll move on to the next game. And the next... etc.

golden ore
#

not every game needs to be zomboid, and it's possible windrose adds a "hardcore mode" tickbox later 🤷‍♂️

dire osprey
#

New update asap

delicate furnace
#

dude is expecting endgame of a game that was out and about for 10 years from a game in EA for almost a month

keen dove
regal wagon
vestal cypress
keen dove
fresh haven
#

It's EA holy hell... they're like 15 people, not a massive studio like Ubislop... they're aiming for October for new content lol

keen dove
queen pulsar
#

Only like 70-80 hours of content nothing to do

keen dove
hoary ore
#

did they change the requirements to make a fast travel bell? since when was it a level 2 station? I made one prior at a level 1 station

regal wagon
#

They changed a few things iirc. Changed the cooldown on soul eater to 3 min as well.

keen dove
regal wagon
#

Neither did I, but when I was messing around with it the other day it had a 3 min cooldown.

keen dove
regal wagon
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I rarely use it, I prefer the plague halberd if I need a long stick.

delicate furnace
uneven pier
#

It is the we cant read crowd, so we just click buy cause, youtube.

regal wagon
#

Short form media and the modern games industry has done so much harm.

naive scaffold
regal wagon
keen dove
delicate furnace
#

too long didn't read

knotty harness
regal wagon
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To long: Wait what was I doing again?

keen dove
#

Wait what? It was 5 words I typed

thick widget
#

I believe that's the joke

keen dove
#

Sorry I am not super familiar with this term

naive scaffold
regal wagon
keen dove
#

I haven't had a game that did that "click" for me for a while

uncut gyro
#

did some messages get deleted?

keen dove
uncut gyro
regal wagon
#

A few did i watched them disappear

keen dove
#

I don't know the conversation so..

abstract aspen
uncut gyro
keen dove
abstract aspen
#

just making sure kekkk

#

i know some here blame me for many things but I mostly just snipe the spam bots giggle

keen dove
#

You snipe those bots with a reliable musket and you good

uncut gyro
#

I simply refuse to blame the mods for the duties they perform. It may be paradoxical for a pirate to respect this, but it be the brethren code, it be. ye, it be

abstract aspen
uncut gyro
#

An' I respect 'em guidelines as much as ye mods!

chrome timber
abstract aspen
# abstract aspen

a little bit of chaos from time to time is fine tho. Would be boring without it gato_piratico

keen dove
#

You mean mutiny?

wheat ridge
#

Guten Morgen gibt’s hier auch deutsche?

olive ermine
wheat ridge
# olive ermine Nein

Nur mal eine Frage habt ihr auch das Problem das ihr das Spiel nicht spielen könnt das der sich egal was du spielen willst im ladebildschirm fest hängt

gaunt meteor
#

Ohhh.... did i miss drama?

olive ermine
uncut gyro
lament finch
#

hello everyone! hope we all doing well and having fun in windrose tonight ^_^

uncut gyro
olive ermine
#

Ah that feeling when you speak every language

cosmic jackal
keen dove
cosmic jackal
#

You might not have that channel selected

wheat ridge
lament finch
keen dove
uneven pier
#

30 gold for a Knife and Fork...sigh

Oh...and a Spoon

lament finch
keen dove
tidal dawn
#

whats teh point of boarding the ship vs just destroying it? anyone know

keen dove
fresh haven
#

you get more loot @tidal dawn

olive ermine
tidal dawn
#

oh okay It didnt seem worth so youre saying its worth the time to board them?

keen dove
chrome timber
#

Gasp I forgot about Bannerlords War Sails DLC! I can command a fleet. Fun times. 😅

lament finch
# uneven pier 30 gold for a Knife and Fork...sigh Oh...and a Spoon

yea this is actually one element of the game i feel the devs need to tone down.... like, the primary reason i havent even bothered with any real base building outside of leaf huts is precisely because of how expensive the options are... like, im nearly lvl 10 and still havent bothered and soon on my way to doing 2nd boss stuff... is that really what they want? for us to sit in leaf huts till late game because the other options are gated?

uneven pier
fresh haven
fresh haven
chrome timber
tidal dawn
#

perfect thank you guys I appreciate the support

keen dove
olive ermine
#

@fresh haven @gaunt meteor why dislikes? You cant get paistre by sinking ships with cannons

keen dove
fresh haven
lament finch
uneven pier
fresh haven
keen dove
gaunt meteor
#

You can pick up piastre in sea loot or by sinking ship. It seems to all be random and you dont get much though

olive ermine
uneven pier
gaunt meteor
#

But that isnt what you said.

gusty gust
#

I wanna be able to commit insurance fraud in Windrose

olive ermine
gaunt meteor
#

Fun fact: Ewan McGregor has a brother that is a pilot and his call sign is Obi-Two

olive ermine
fresh haven
keen dove
gusty gust
fresh haven
olive ermine
uneven pier
fresh haven
#

Worse... it's p2w like Chrono Odyssey (I've never played either game)

olive ermine
chrome timber
olive ermine
fresh haven
uneven pier
chrome timber
olive ermine
gaunt meteor
#

Obviously this game's player base will die without: PvP, Purchasable Loot Boxes, & Purchasable skins.... They need to be implemented as a priority!

olive ermine
keen dove
heady hazel
#

how many players can you fit into a session?

abstract aspen
keen dove
keen dove
gusty gust
#

Man I need to stop coming in here on my lunch break. I keep getting teed up for the absolute worst jokes.

olive ermine
abstract aspen
keen dove
gusty gust
olive ermine
uneven pier
digital lark
#

Just finished the game, 85 hours. Definitely a great experience, going to miss it though. Wish there was something more to do in the postgame but hopefully when it reaches 1.0 we'll get that. But damn I love this

keen dove
#

The mom is literally cooking

gaunt meteor
#

The player base may already be circling the drain without a proprietary e-currency that can be used to purchase booster packs and skins but never in the same increments that you can purchase the e-currency!

gaunt meteor
#

Penistres

keen dove
olive ermine
digital lark
olive ermine
gusty gust
#

Think of all the kids we could get hooked on g a m b l i n g!

gaunt meteor
#

In-game portal right to Kalshi!

raven dagger
keen dove
digital lark
olive ermine
raven dagger
olive ermine
#

Legendary cannons locked behind 240 guarantee banner pull when

gaunt meteor
#

Guys, We need to be in a focus group for the developer, they are leaving so much money on the table!

digital lark
keen dove
abstract aspen
gaunt meteor
#

This money could go to things like bonuses for owners and top level management!

olive ermine
keen dove
raven dagger
#

And gta6 wont be out then

digital lark
#

Man at this point I need Trailer 3 this week or I'm all in on the 2040 release date guess

slim forge
#

algun sv bueno?

abstract aspen
keen dove
olive ermine
#

Bros thinking about GTA6 when 32gigs of ram will cost a lux 400 square meter apparment

gaunt meteor
#

Hear me out, In order to combat video game addiction and do a public service, they could add little mandatory breaks and during those breaks maybe a short little video on products that they may want to purchase!

lament finch
#

GOOD LORD those frigates are BIG when you see them for the first time... still cant beleive i chose to take it on and somehow managed to live xD

abstract aspen
keen dove
gaunt meteor
lament finch
olive ermine
uneven pier
keen dove
lament finch
gaunt meteor
uneven pier
#

I run grog free ships, for 240hrs now...

olive ermine
golden ore
#

your crew be dyin' of scurvy

olive ermine
gaunt meteor
uneven pier
golden ore
lament finch
gaunt meteor
#

Has someone modded some Leroy Jenkins Grog?

olive ermine
keen dove
#

Can't wait to finish my hard playthrough to start a 500% playthrough, it will be glorious

olive ermine
keen dove
velvet river
#

Must. Cut. Trees.

olive ermine
velvet river
gaunt meteor
olive ermine
lament finch
#

i swear i recall a certain shop in skyrim named that <.<....

keen dove
quaint root
#

Decided to roll with the brethren with my good ole frigate on the line

olive ermine
uneven pier
tiny vector
#

why is my island surrounded by 14 enemy ships....

keen dove
uneven pier
gaunt meteor
#

The amount of enemy ships is too dang high

tiny vector
olive ermine
cosmic jackal
#

You chose the right island. Easy access to silver coins, repair kits, coffee and salt 🙂

gaunt meteor
#

exactly. It becomes an annoyance rather than an event

tiny vector
runic crown
#

After I max rep with the factions what do i do with the insignias?

cosmic jackal
gaunt meteor
runic crown
keen dove
velvet river
#

On an unrelated note, can I interest someone in about 8,000 coconuts?

uneven pier
cosmic jackal
#

Ashlands might raise the rep limit

olive ermine
wide kelp
tiny vector
gaunt meteor
golden ore
#

the most correct answer is obviously save them until you can fill a pirate chest with them, then bury the chest somewhere on a remote island for later

keen dove
keen dove
uneven pier
# runic crown for what

well this might come as a bit of a shock, the game isnt finished yet, you hoard them for future updates.

olive ermine
runic crown
gaunt meteor
#

I might download a mod where you can sell them.

keen dove
gaunt meteor
#

What i really need to sell is coffee beans. im overflowing with them

olive ermine
gaunt meteor
#

BTW, Four Coffee beans and Four Sugar to make coffee? Seems really unbalanced.

cosmic jackal
gaunt meteor
#

Do you drink coffee?

keen dove
gaunt meteor
#

So when you fill up the filter with the ground beans, do you then take a similar amount of sugar to put in your coffee after it has finished?

delicate furnace
#

I just use the shovel of absolute zero to delete excess mats I can't sell

uneven pier
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i know plenty of ppl that have 4 sugars in coffee tbh (im not one of them, 1 is enough for me)

olive ermine
gaunt meteor
keen dove
#

And by the way I have no trouble making a ton of coffee in the game, idk why it is unbalanced, it does not have to be realistic, this is a game not a real life simulator

thin yarrow
#

Hello! I just got the game, any way I can play online from a selection of servers or is it invite to play online?

final crane
#

Fifty coffee beans,zero sugar,to make my liter of coffee very morning

keen dove
uneven pier
olive ermine
final crane
#

Water is also optional for coffee

keen dove
final crane
final crane
#

but yeah, good coffee beans = no sugar, no milk, no nothing

copper tendon
gaunt meteor
#

Well the internet has been enough for tonight. Sweet dreams mateys

final crane
#

of course you also need a hand crank burr grinder, and either a french press, drip, cold brew, or turkish pot, I'm very much a snob

tawdry quiver
wicked coral
final crane
crisp vine
#

Hmm.. went to board a Blackbeard Hauler. The boarding message says Blackbeard Raider.

final crane
#

freighters display as warship when you board, I suspect it might be a class abstraction problem

lament finch
#

another friget.... little "prancy pony" you better be worth this...

fresh haven
#

spoiler: it won't lol

final crane
#

that quest should've given me another animal whistle, trufffles needs a friend

lament finch
#

well.... this "level 8" quest escalated quickly 😅

fresh haven
#

good luck! 💀

mystic thorn
#

I'm so glad they announced the winners of the contest! In a channel apparently nobody has permission to view.

final crane
#

pull your pants down and wave your fanny at them, that'll demoralize them in to surrendering

olive ermine
lament finch
#

got it and gone. sometimes you just gotta risk it for the bisket! this is fine ^_^

olive ermine
fresh haven
#

RGBT

olive ermine
fresh haven
#

Unintentional actually lmfao

hybrid wadi
#

Meow has there been any announcements about stability updates for Linux yet? v.v vali wants to play so bad but crashes every minute in the games current state..

final crane
#

is there a linux binary or you running it on wine or something?

hybrid wadi
#

Steamdeck- it doesn't crash unless playing on a private co-op game though..
Solo it seems to be ok

swift creek
#

im doing fine on AMD-only linux, not that im doubting you. I did crash when I was hosting, but probably because I was running out of memory.

final crane
#

the game isn't Steamdeck certified yet, so your best bet is to go to the support page with your crash logs from proton

hybrid wadi
copper tendon
#

Smug March is smug

swift creek
#

For reference I have 16GB of RAM, and hosting a game crashed me eventually, so I moved to a dedicated server. The server itself takes about 7GB to run. It does still crash sometimes though, but not nearly as often. More since the update (or maybe because we've advanced in the game)

uncut plaza
#

Just got home, is EU/NA and SEA services down?

final crane
tranquil dragon
#

How does one deal with multiple enemies solo? This crap is so annoying. Especially in enclosed spaces like caves.

swift creek
#

Just don't deal with multiple enemies 🧠

oak arch
final crane
swift creek
#

(Sacrifice Truffles, once you get him)

lament finch
#

you cant stack the grogs used on the ship can you?

tranquil dragon
oak arch
#

yeah, until you get stamina back

final crane
swift creek
tranquil dragon
oak arch
#

weapon doesnt matter that much

tranquil dragon
final crane
uneven pier
olive ermine
tranquil dragon
final crane
#

yes

swift creek
#

Could also go hardcore and not use target lock. Easier to get multiple enemies in one slash that way, and to parry. But its hard

uneven pier
olive ermine
tranquil dragon
#

What about in enclosed spaces though? like caves or on a ship or something where jumping off will cause me to drown?

swift creek
#

On a ship you can totally jump off

final crane
oak arch
#

dash, u can phase thru attacks when u dash

olive ermine
delicate furnace
#

think I will test a temporal plague halberd build with bulwark set

tranquil dragon
olive ermine
tranquil dragon
final crane
winter peak
tranquil dragon
uneven pier
final crane
oak arch
tranquil dragon
swift creek
winter peak
final crane
#

I hate armored drowned, dudes don't know when to have their attacks paused

olive ermine
delicate furnace
tranquil dragon
swift creek
winter peak
spice bridge
#

I like ships that have mini ships inside

olive ermine
tranquil dragon
oak arch
final crane
#

if you want to tank they are good, everyone has their preference for armor set

olive ermine
tranquil dragon
final crane
#

all armor sets you can get early

tranquil dragon
#

Wow. Okay. I'm running the 2 of the one that reduces stamina on swing and the 2 that give damage reduction

olive ermine
summer mauve
oak arch
winter peak
#

Joking aside, it's mostly about placement and getting enemies to peel off from other ones, granted this doesn't work for those lil' gremlin hunters but it's a 90% sound strategy

tranquil dragon
olive ermine
swift creek
#

Honestly the most important thing is matching your gear level to your enemies' level. That isn't made very clear by the game at the moment

uneven pier
winter peak
final crane
#

weapon/armor upgrades are pretty much more important than anything else and agreed the game doesn't stress those level differences enough

tranquil dragon
olive ermine
tranquil dragon
#

It's upgraded a bit but.

final crane
winter peak
uneven pier
swift creek
# winter peak No but this feature is common in games

Not in any games I usually play. I tend to avoid MMO RPG types of things. Same way that the "unblockable attack" thing is common in souls games, but if you're a SOT or Ark player, you wont have seen that before.

oak arch
# tranquil dragon Ah. My gear is level 1 rn 💀 I'm level 3.

damage and defense both scale with enemy level, the # it says on ur weapon, like "355 crude" 355 = %100 of the damage u will do to an enemy of the same level as your weapon (without any external buffs), same with defense. for every level you are under/over your enemy you will do 12% extra/less if its a 1 level difference, 24% for 2 then its like 2.5% for every level after that

solar holly
#

if sea creatures are added this game will be crac

tranquil dragon
olive ermine
oak arch
lament finch
tranquil dragon
swift creek
oak arch
tranquil dragon
final crane
#

I've decided, I'm skipping work today to pirate the carrbian, after coffee

winter peak
#

I ain't saying it's bad or it's good but it's a pavlova effect, enshrouded has this too with the unsafe shroud that will kill you in 1 second flat

oak arch
tranquil dragon
olive ermine
oak arch
final crane
winter peak
copper tendon
#

What do you guys think is the biggest ship they'll add as Playable?
You think they will go beyond something the size of a Galleon?

tranquil dragon
olive ermine
tranquil dragon
#

I thought upgrades JUST affected stats, not level. Turns out stats and level are basically one thing?

swift creek
#

Me when I don't have skill in the game but somehow it's the games fault

oak arch
copper tendon
# oak arch Man o' War

You think thell go up to the Ships of the Line? I mean, would be awesome af but I quake with fear thinking about the amount of Ressources we have to farm

uneven pier
winter peak
final crane
olive ermine
swift creek
oak arch
tranquil dragon
final crane
lunar vine
#

you can upgrade 1 to max, as the game works right now

tranquil dragon
copper tendon
final crane
#

iron hill wolves is a great example of how the level system works vs stat system

level 1-5 armor is 200 DEF at lvl 5 armor, wolves will kill you without food in one hit
level 10 armor is only a 100 DEF increase, because of the level though wolves can basically be shrugged off

swift creek
#

The game needs to explain this more clearly imo. For people who haven't played a system like this

mystic kiln
#

how do i use deadeye grog?

oak arch
swift creek
winter peak
uneven pier
tranquil dragon
final crane
olive ermine
uneven pier
tranquil dragon
tranquil dragon
winter peak
olive ermine
final crane
tranquil dragon
final crane
#

you do not
everything you can find you can upgrade

swift creek
#

No, you need to find resources from more difficult areas

olive ermine
winter peak
#

You can upgrade everything you just need workbench upgrades

uneven pier
tranquil dragon
final crane
#

upgrading 1-5 requires materials in area level 1-5, upgrading 6-10 requires materials in a level 6-10 area

olive ermine
lament finch
#

anyone else feel like the game could use a little more inventory space?

tranquil dragon
# uneven pier exactly like that

I heard about that. Okay, I thought you meant like once I hit a certain amount of upgrades I physically can't upgrade anymore. Minecraft anvil style. Outside of like, the level caps.

winter peak
uneven pier
devout forge
olive ermine
winter peak
tranquil dragon
lament finch
winter peak
devout forge
tranquil dragon
#

but I assume upgrading in this game is JUST tied to what the current level cap for that point in the game is?

swift creek
#

max level for everything is 15 rn, yes. Likely to be raised in the future. Except faction reputation, thats capped to 4

winter peak
#

Given we're in I'd assume a puddle of the map right now with so much more to sail and sea

tranquil dragon
#

Okay let me make sure I got this right:

I can find higher level gear, BUT I can also make my current sets INTO those higher level gears without having to completely swap out my set. Upgrades are only tied to the current level cap for that specific point in the game, and once I beat that boss I can upgrade to the next cap. Rince and repeat. I got that right?

tranquil dragon
#

aight cool. Sorry for the confusion LMAO.

winter peak
#

Not to add to the confusion but if you did accidentally toss your favourite sword into the scrapped you CAN remake gear set to a chosen level

olive ermine
#

As much as i disagree with many people here in regard to how bad melee combat is, this community is great and helpful.

tranquil dragon
#

and the only benefit of finding higher level gear is just that I have less upgrading to do, right? Basically less expensive by a bit

swift creek
#

Also: crafting a level 5 gear is cheaper than upgrading 1-5. You unlock the higher level crafting one you beat a boss

lunar vine
#

essentially yes, also though, it looks like as long as you don't import items from a different world, you will only loot one of each special weapon type in the world.

i can't guarantee that, but its been true so far for the first 2/3 of the game for me. Only thing i got more than one of were base green weapons.

tranquil dragon
oak arch
winter peak
olive ermine
tranquil dragon
olive ermine
shy lagoon
#

Hello, I just got new pet (boar). But how could I ride? it wll be great to help moving around faster,

swift creek
#

Snipin's a good job mate

devout forge
#

I like melee combat, the difficulties just need a bit of touching around imo

tranquil dragon
olive ermine
oak arch
#

You just have to accept that youre not an unbeatable god like in most games, especially early game. You have to bait attacks, run around a lot, wait for stamina regen and dodge often.

swift creek
#

The issues with combat for me is mostly to do with boarding, and crew blocking you, stuff like that.

spice bridge
olive ermine
tranquil dragon
final crane
swift creek
#

Truffles is great canon fodder 10/10

tranquil dragon
devout forge
#

Ship combat is rough af because there is nothing stopping you from getting hit by a bunch of dudes at once. They don't cancel eachother out or block eachother or anything. Then yeah, getting stuck trying to dodge is a huge frustration

winter peak
#

I kinda want to add magic to it, give us those annoying totems that fire on enemjes

shy lagoon
swift creek
#

They should let us give him armor (mostly because that would be cute af)

spice bridge
tranquil dragon
oak arch
#

You can stand on the very front of a ketch and hit the enemy and they can't hit you. Same on brig on the back with the stairs, and the gun ports on the side of the frigate. Let your crew do most of the work though and 3rd party them.

devout forge
olive ermine
devout forge
pine depot
#

ship combat is anything but hard dafuq

olive ermine
final crane
tranquil dragon
#

Where can I get builds and stuff?

devout forge
#

What I don't like is how to progress in the swamps you have to fight level 12-15 enemies to make the bars and on normal that is just...prohibitively difficult

agile kite
pine depot
#

i swear some of you only played sims before

oak arch
swift creek
winter peak
final crane
#

This is a diet souls difficulty game,unless you go.to settings

olive ermine
tranquil dragon
winter peak
swift creek
tranquil dragon
raven dagger
green obsidian
winter peak
tranquil dragon
final crane
#

What the game needs is a double barrel shotgun with a shooting meat hook and boss music that follows me around so they know when I'm coming

olive ermine
winter peak
raven dagger
#

Ship battles are fine i just try not to put myself in an area where i could get stuck, bit of waiting, watching and picking my targets

tranquil dragon
pine depot
#

You do not need any builds till later on. like 1-10 just pick whatever weapon feels right for you and upgrade the f out of your gear. Skill points just pick whatever your weapon uses. stock up on potions (regular ones, green and purple you'll barely ever use) bandages and food. Go have fun

devout forge
raven dagger
winter peak
#

yeah use the early levels to play around with it, you can respec consequence free find what fits for you

swift creek
#

Also important to note: you can respec for free so you can try out a lot of things. For gear a little less so because you dont get upgrade materials back when you scrap them

olive ermine
lament finch
pine depot
#

most of your deaths will be annoying scuffs or being out of stamina

oak arch
swift creek
#

Endurance and vitality is going to matter mostly in the early game. and the rest of the game

winter peak
#

ohdontforgetaboutfoodbuffs!

tranquil dragon
devout forge
pine depot
raven dagger
olive ermine
# oak arch Why are you complaining about melee then...

There are people who will want to play melee and wil find same game behavior as i did. I belive that systems in place should be polished fully. I also want to do a different char down the line as i like the game. And that char would have different gameplay from this one. That is my angle

raven dagger
lament finch
swift creek
#

endurance is great for resource harvesting too. And if you find the prospector ring, ascend that bad boy. I am a dwarf and im digging a hole..

oak arch
raven dagger
golden ore
#

honestly i find it pretty trivial to avoid taking hits, so i never invested a single point in vitality - all in on damage, enemies can't hit me if they're corpses

swift creek
devout forge
golden ore
olive ermine
swift creek
#

NotCurar has +10 passive perception

winter peak
swift creek
#

idk why but their melee attack feels so viscious to me. I feel it in my bones

oak arch
golden ore
winter peak
swift creek
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And that is when I send in Truffles to die for me

lament finch
# raven dagger Yeah the modes are a great balamce for different types and the fact you can chan...

yea i agree that is excellent.

ive always said that there are two kinds of gamers: those who play for the challenge... and those who play for the experience....

those who play for the challenge play for that struggle as their drive. without something putting them to the test constantly they dont feel stimulated. they want that high octane adrenalin feeling in a game.

the ones who play for the experience, they dont care about the challenge or the difficulty. they are the rollplayers, the ones who stop and smell the roses, who just want to take in the game and enjoy the experience and the world. they are the ones after a hard days work who wants to kick back with their beer or whine in one hand while strolling about the world of the game their in while responding to discord and enjoying media on another screen.

neither playstyle is wrong. its just different types of gamers.

golden ore
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that's when i whip out my pistol and feed them bullets

devout forge
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Thought I had run far enough away from a wolf, stopped to check my map and got bit in the pirate's booty, scaring the crap out of me 🤣

swift creek
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I like that im forced to struggle in a new area tbh. Like what, im gonna steamroll the game from start to finish?

olive ermine
copper tendon
golden ore
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lol playing with my very bad at video games fiancee, she made a funny comment - "you should be able to teleport to your corpse when you die" - i'm just like lol erm.. babe, you do realise that defeats the entire point of death, yes?

olive ermine
lament finch