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[neon haven]

hackers would still exist in the pvp instance, which would be in every server. rather than each pvp server having a hacker problem to deal with while pve servers won't (still would but not as much)

so now each server has a hacker problem instead of only the pvp servers

[somber wigeon]

there is nothing stopping anyone from disabling either or when hosting

[neon haven]

thats the exact same as my idea then

[somber wigeon]

how? one is a global setting for one intance, one is a seperate instance. you have got to be trolling

[crystal ferry]

I think that's where we're not communicating properly. Every world would have a door think of transferring between the two as a metal detector in a hospital. You can have a gun out on the street AKA the PVP arena but there's no way you're getting that gun through the metal detector into the hospital aka the normal world these are not the same world it would be loading into a separate thing itself.

[neon haven]

you say theres an option to disable either instance? so if you disable the pve instance now its globally pvp

[crystal ferry]

These are not the same world It would be a door to access a different world it's like the closet and Narnia

[somber wigeon]

i do not think they are comunicating in good faith

[neon haven]

really

[crystal ferry]

Am I communicating more clearly battleship

[crystal ferry]

No no I think we're just talking circles around each other and we both have the same concept but just slightly different understandings of what each other is trying to say

[neon haven]

to me that sounds more like zones rather than instances

[crystal ferry]

It wouldn't be included in your world map itself you'd have to go talk to an NPC and it would load you up kind of like how you have to go through the menu to get into a cod lobby. You can't shoot anybody in the menu (your world) but once you load in (PVP arena) you can go ham. And as said before it's such an easy implementation that mods exist to do it. It basically loads you onto an entirely different server

[sinful jay]

Hey when I host a server with my Buddy can I somehow turn on pvp?

[neon haven]

yeah so thats an instance. it just leads to the same problem i described above and isn't anymore simple than the idea i had. it would work but it doesn't make it more simple or really solve the hacker problem you described

[fervent solar]

Is there a way to demoliosh a building quickliy

[somber wigeon]

it is simpler though, while solving the pvp hack issue as explained

[neon haven]

how does it solve it? it just means every server has to deal with that hacker issue

[somber wigeon]

destroy the blocks connecting it to the ground

[somber wigeon]

it was explained if you scroll up the thread

[fervent solar]

Alternate ideas?

[somber wigeon]

lol is it floating? idk then

[neon haven]

it was never explained

[hexed burrow]

Shoot it with the cannons on the ship.
I'unno.

[neon haven]

only thing you said was you can disable either instance, which is literally the exact same as my idea but extra steps

[somber wigeon]

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there will be no pvp dmg calculations being done in the pve instance, it is impossible to do pvp dmg in the pve instance, even if the client sends data suggesting that pvp dmg should be done in the pve instance the server will not apply the dmg because there is no pvp dmg calculations being done on the pve instance

[neon haven]

but in the pvp instance, which is still in the same server you would have that problem

[crystal ferry]

I'll explain it this way if you have a server that has PVP someone can come in using an exploit to damage your ships with it whereas if PVP is not allowed in the world and you have to go to a separate area aka the arena that you have to load into and the arena is an external server not affecting your world the worst that anybody could do in your world is use those to target AI

[neon haven]

so each server owner would have to deal with a hacker problem just as much as any other server would

[fervent solar]

Galen is in fact, a Wizard

[hexed burrow]

Cannons on ship go KABOOM. Cannons hit building. Building go bleh. Building gone.

[crystal ferry]

The hacker problem is not going to be solved. That's just the state of the world but what it does solve is having that hacker use those tools against you. The exploits could be used against AI ships but not players

[somber wigeon]

edited my post to clarify

[crystal ferry]

It also allows for a lot tighter monitoring because this is a small studio they can't watch every server. Whereas they can write programs a lot easier to detect in those specific instances that are outside of the world if there's only a hundred PvP arenas that is astronomically easier than surveying thousands of worlds

We clicking now

[neon haven]

are servers not entirely operated by each individual user that decides to host one? why would the company need to monitor it?

[hexed burrow]

You must be new to the internet.

[somber wigeon]

it is common practice to send data to devs to improve the game. most of the games you play do this

[crystal ferry]

Let's say you host a server and it's rather popular then you have somebody that comes on with automatic Cannon fire and infinite damage. You're at work because you have bills. That player keeps everyone stuck in Port causes lack of progress and destruction. Your two choices are to either just say whoop-Dee-Doo and ban them when you get home from work hours later which will cause severe community problems or you can roll the server back and cause severe community problems

The way I'm describing yeah they could probably load into your world with those same exploits but they can only target the AI ships and well that's annoying for the players out trying to get loot It is not a community breaking event

[hexed burrow]

Most multiplayer games still run critical gameplay logic on developer-controlled servers even if communities can host worlds. PvP instances are usually handled by central matchmaking/instance servers. Because those matches are isolated and have a limited number of players, it's much easier to log actions, run anti-cheat checks, and review suspicious behavior compared to monitoring every open-world shard or player-hosted server. So instancing PvP doesn't stop exploits entirely, but it does make detection and moderation more manageable.

[crystal ferry]

And it's very hard for devs to sift through all of these packets that get sent. From thousands and thousands of worlds. But when you have a lot less to sift through the needle becomes a lot bigger and the haystack becomes a lot smaller

Please read as less impact to the community from bad actors will still allowing for the PvP experience as well as easier noticing of exploits and patching fixing and/or banning of bad actors

[crystal ferry]

Exactly and in the base world where PVP is not possible It prevents community problems with bad actors

[raven dagger]

Good theory crafting but kind of pointless as pvp wont be a thing at full release and maybe a small thing after that, maybe if they can think of a good system and intertwine it with existing game with minimal resources and time. Or maybe y'all addressed this way back up there

[hexed burrow]

It depends on the server architecture. Even in games that allow community-hosted worlds, the core systems that matter for fairness—like matchmaking, PvP combat resolution, and player state validation—are often still handled by developer-controlled services or authoritative servers. The reason is that trusting clients or loosely moderated servers makes exploits much easier.

Instanced PvP helps from a monitoring perspective because those matches are short-lived, isolated environments with a fixed number of players and a clearly defined rule set. That makes it much easier to log everything that happens in the match (damage events, movement data, ability usage, timing, etc.) and run automated checks against it. If something abnormal shows up—like impossible hit rates, movement speeds, or timing—you can flag that match or player quickly.

In contrast, monitoring a persistent open-world environment is harder because there are far more variables: many players interacting at once, long session durations, and a much larger volume of events to sift through. So instancing PvP doesn't eliminate hacking, but it reduces the scope of the problem and makes detection, logging, and moderation much more manageable for a smaller studio.

[crystal ferry]

That's entirely what we're talking about. We all know that PVP won't be until full release. We were talking about the best way to implement PvP upon full release

[raven dagger]

No not until full release MAYBE after full release

[hexed burrow]

Now. Back to shooting cannonballs at buildings.

[crystal ferry]

Right, we're just talking about like the best way that we each think it could be implemented. If / when it were to be

[raven dagger]

I like an arena system myself which they already were headed in that direction

[somber wigeon]

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adressed here

[hexed burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-des-caraibes-pirates-of-the-caribbean-canon-preparation-drapeau-gif-19449536

[crystal ferry]

Then check this out https://discord.com/channels/1260209458924224542/1480065787007074407
I laid down a foundation in a suggestion that I think personally would work

[raven dagger]

I think 20 crews is wildly optimistic but maybe 4 crews but I just can't see them implementing this as its alot of work, imo anyway. I honestly doubt pvp will ever be a thing and maybe only after 3-5 yrs

Maybe though it depends how interactive they make ships with crew

[crystal ferry]

It's all those things where like it's quarantined but it does offer incentives to participate well also forcing itself to not be a main feature. The 20 crews was spitballing It really depends on what's going on with the ship to crew ratio all of that fun stuff it's more so just a overarching idea

[raven dagger]

Leave it as is maybe but people want to work the cannons etc... like sot and doing that I think for the pve side complicates that mechanic for pvp

[crystal ferry]

I was spitballing something that had reached a bit of homeostasis and equilibrium given the vibe and voice direction of the game

[somber wigeon]

as of rn 20 crews just means 20 players

[crystal ferry]

I am interested in how they're going to flash that out a bit more

[crystal ferry]

But also keep in mind there's no massive builds so that does provide a lot more bandwidth in the server

[raven dagger]

20 individual ships all moving with the inherent mechanics of each, bit more than just a captain

[somber wigeon]

very true. just saying its much simpler than a ship full of players individually controlling sails and cannons

[neon haven]

so to clarify, by "instance" are you refering to a virtual server or a "world"

[somber wigeon]

yes

[crystal ferry]

Yes. Separate ones. Implementing a garden wall

[jolly scarab]

I bought that game and it never worked on my pc crash after crash. I have a solid pc. Is there any thing that can help that game play better? @tardy flower

[neon haven]

yes to which one

[raven dagger]

Thats what im saying if they leave it like that it makes it alot easier to implement but pve players already want that changed which makes implementation in a pvp setting that bit more challenging

[crystal ferry]

The PvP area would be a completely separate world running on a separate server that would be owned and operated by the studio

[neon haven]

so you're not talking about 2 "worlds" in the same virtual server

[crystal ferry]

Exactly

[neon haven]

then thats why we were confused

[crystal ferry]

The NPC that you'd have to talk to to go battleships would just be the "interaction mannequin" that allowed you to hop between the two

[timid crescent]

Theoretically that's possible, like ARK for example, some servers can be PVP vs PVE, but currently the devs have said that there are no plans for PVP of any kind until they see the money coming in. So whatever PVP they choose to implement, we won't see until months after early access at the earliest.

[neon haven]

i was refering to instances as instances of a world, but you were refering to it as instances as in a virtual server

[somber wigeon]

im curious to see what direction that goes. i would be happy either way, the most fun ive had in SOT was teaming up with other ships for joint fleet combat. not having to manually man cannons means fleet play can be done with one player per ship, which i love. of course being able to man a cannon doesn't mean that the cannon cant fall back to behaving as it does now when no player is manning it

[crystal ferry]

Exactly and the solution I'm proposing to implement it would prevent the Community segregation between PVP and PVE servers that caused a lot of community die off in ark. Instead of being a specific PVP or PVE server the community is playing the same base game some people are just choosing not to partake in a non-mandatory portion of it

[timid crescent]

So more like rust then, or Dune awakening?

Certain designated areas where PVP is allowed but most of the map is PVE only

[raven dagger]

Most fun i had in sot was taking down alliance servers lol I like the idea of a 1 man ship too but takes out traditional boarding i guess

[crystal ferry]

A lot like dune but without the direct ability to sail into the PVP zone you'd have to go through a handshake and a confirmation to implement the transfer. So it's a completely separate world basically you just load up into a lobby and join the PVP area. To prevent exploits being used in the base world against players

[timid crescent]

So you're talking separate infrastructure for PVP, you'd have to "zone in" or whatever

[raven dagger]

Very interested to see how they change ships or if they even do, id rather customisation than players working cannons myself I want the ugliest ship out there 👍

[crystal ferry]

So no zone inside the world you'd have to go to an NPC and that would offer you the access. Think like how in destiny you can't PVP in the hub in this case it would be your world but you can go talk to a NPC that would allow you to join into a PVP instance

[neon haven]

maybe you could have an npc get off of the cannon by interacting with it for example

[hexed burrow]

Ye.

[neon haven]

why is everyone saying yes to a question with "or" lol

[crystal ferry]

https://discord.com/channels/1260209458924224542/1480065787007074407

[quiet minnow]

anyone know what im missing or is it just not in demo

[raven dagger]

Yes 😏

[hexed burrow]

Because in this instance. A "server" or a "world" are the same thing. It's really just phrasing.

[timid crescent]

Yeah the upper right one is the crab shell and I think the bottom one is the dodo bird trophy

[hexed burrow]

Like. "I started a new world on Minecraft." That world is a private server

[quiet minnow]

ty

[timid crescent]

Np

[hexed burrow]

So... Ye.

[crystal ferry]

Did the link help explain?

[timid crescent]

Nah but I thin I understand and it's a decent idea

[neon haven]

thats the problem. when i was saying instances i meant quite literally the world inside the server, because there doesn't necessarily need to be a virtual server per world. but i might be too used to how games like minecraft or hytale work

[crystal ferry]

Basically every server is PVE but has its own door to access the PvP arena. But it also prevents so It prevents some of the exploits like in dune where they can still shoot people outside of the PVP area

[neon haven]

so 2 worlds per virtual server is what i thought they were saying

[somber wigeon]

the grammar used in the question suggests that "virtual server or a "world" = "virtual server aka world".

the instance would be a virtual server in a sense because the PVE and PVP instances can both be hosted on one physical server.
in the demo right now you can load in to different worlds with the same pirate and inventory. imagine someone hosting 2 of those worlds at the same time, one with pve, one with pvp, those would be 2 seperate instances.

[somber wigeon]

yes that would be 2 separate instances

[neon haven]

not in the way they meant though

[crystal ferry]

Right and to prevent that server strain on the hoster as well as protection for the hosted world. Was my idea

[crystal ferry]

I knew we were just talking around the same issue with a miscommunication 😂

[somber wigeon]

it is though

[neon haven]

i mean that is instances but they meant instances as in virtual server instances

[somber wigeon]

i think the miscommunication comes from a misunderstanding of the word "instance" in the context of server hosting

[crystal ferry]

Basically PVP is handled by the studio servers and you can have your own world cluster like how in arc there were server clusters but those are purely PVE with a door to access the studio servers who host PVP arenas

Take some of the burden off you as a world provider and protects your players 💜

[neon haven]

ye

[somber wigeon]

so like pvp would be easy to monitor for exploits plus no risk of hacks enabling PVP for a hacker in a PVE setting (because the PVE instances wouldn't do pvp dmg calc at all)

one player being able to PVP in a PVE server would be game breaking

you could have players host the PVP instance with natalia's set up too

[neon haven]

oh yeahh

[crystal ferry]

In my dream scenario, you could host your own separate PvP arena and it would have the same garden wall to protect your players. You would just be in charge of monitoring the ship battle arena yourself. And that set up would still allow your players to transfer from the PvP ship arena back to your own world. I would love to see the custom maps of people make for the PvP

[crystal ferry]

EXACTLY 💯💯💯

I did A LOT of thinking about it before i posted

[somber wigeon]

the devs can still have access to reports and logs via the usual means too

[crystal ferry]

MHM

Tell me I'm not cooking

[somber wigeon]

most games send logs, crash reports, and player generated reports to devs, this will be no different

[crystal ferry]

Exactly 💯 while allowing for the community to still all be playing the same base game and allowing for mod implementation across the board and unique community created worlds

[somber wigeon]

something tells me you have played many games before

[neon haven]

kinda wanna relearn blender to make custom ships for this now

[crystal ferry]

YOU'RE PROVING MY POINT 🫂

[crystal ferry]

You know what would be easy as pie to do. Give world hosters the ability to green light specific mods with a simple allow mod content setting. And poof you have someone sailing into your world from across the Pacific in a Chinese ship. While still keeping server owners in control and informed on what they're letting into their garden without forcing the server to host the mod itself.

Would allow for near seamless inter server travel

Load your ship with supplies and move somewhere new and build up without the hassle and keeping the same character

[celest flower]

Are the different armour sets in the game yet? If so are they just random drops from pirates or chests?

[somber wigeon]

how would you handle mod conflicts across different servers with the same char?

[somber wigeon]

there are 2 full sets, the starting one and the survivor's set. the marksman and philibuster's set are only partially available in the demo from what ive seen. different worlds spawn the same loot

[celest flower]

ah right, so no pikeman or anything yet that i've seen in the db?

[crystal ferry]

That's the thing. For it to work there would have to be a third party trusted hoster. Tbh it could be the studio itself. Log in download mods from the list of supported cross world mods and if the server you want to join has it green lit. Poof you're there

[crystal ferry]

Bg3 has something almost similar

[crystal ferry]

All it would require is a handshake when you log in to make sure that your mod file that you have downloaded on your computer matches the file on The third party trusted.

[somber wigeon]

im thinking if i come from server 1 with mod A enabled and something from mod A in my inventory, then go to server 2 with out mod A enabled and fill my inventory, then go back to server 1, where did the item from mod A go?

[crystal ferry]

" you are currently trying to join a world with items not greenlit by your server owner. Do you wish to proceed if so that item will disappear"

[somber wigeon]

oh

[crystal ferry]

Would not be hard to implement a search feature to make sure that things are allowed

It's a simple filter

Click your mods on the filter, search

It's a wonderful feature for the players to have but also would be great for the server owners because it would prevent people from coming in fully kitted if their world was a shipwreck server where you have to start a new

Good for both sides

[crystal ferry]

I play as many games as I read books 😂

[raw rover]

Whats a Ratalia?

[crystal ferry]

It's a Gothic N

[somber wigeon]

the alternative would be the classic server side char saves? to be able to play different mod lists with no worries about what char i have selected because it will be 1 char per server

[crystal ferry]

Names Natalia. How do you do

[crystal ferry]

Bing bang you catch my drift

[somber wigeon]

ive never played anything with the system you are describing

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/im-a-visionary-roddy-ricch-boom-boom-boom-song-futurist-imaginative-gif-22824753

[crystal ferry]

And that is completely on the hoster to decide

[crystal ferry]

So you could have a traveling character or server charter. Depends on the world. Same as how some Arc servers had server clusters and others were just that one server but instead of being server dependent it's being dependent upon mod allowance and if that specific server is a character closed server

[somber wigeon]

ive played server clusters on conan exiles, but that was handled by modders and the host not by funcom at all

[crystal ferry]

Ditto, I doubt it's going to happen but I'd love to see that system implemented. It's as simple as toggles when you own the server allow cross server characters or don't

[raw rover]

Ide rather they just spend all their time fixing ships so people can actually use them. Random qol features that a handful of ppl might use seems a waste of dev time

[somber wigeon]

plus the stuff to handle mismatches etc, i think if the game takes off modders will jump on that inorder to have server travel like vanilla seems it is going to have

[crystal ferry]

Not qol. Allowing community flow. Mods are already confirmed.

[somber wigeon]

devs will do what they do, our musings arent going to change the course of development. no stress

[crystal ferry]

You could have a bunch of ship mods downloaded, run your own server and have people coming from across the game for you to build them a boat.

[somber wigeon]

i think dulganis is saying they want devs to spend all their time implementing player controlled cannons and sails like SOT

[crystal ferry]

Still prob not going to happen but I'd love to see it. Prob will be more for that.

[raw rover]

If they dont do it they'll lose alot of ppl. What's the point of a coop pirate game otherwise. May as well just make a single player darksouls clone

[crystal ferry]

But hey it's my dream cross server system. Never seen it done. But Even if it was implemented poorly it'd be a major evolution in gaming

[paper vine]

do you know when the game is coming out?

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/bold-strategy-dodgeball-cotton-strategy-tactics-gif-4957668

[somber wigeon]

having a blast rn being a fleet of ships with my friends, and building big ports, either way ill be happy

[crystal ferry]

Expecting ea sometime within 4 months and full release within a year or two. Demo is 2.5% of the map and 5% of the gameplay that they already have implemented

[somber wigeon]

im not against being able to man a cannon on my friend's ship btw, that would be great

[neon haven]

i mean people refer to ac black flag as the best pirate game and it didn't have that, but you could still walk around freely on your ship. it would be great to be able to atleast use the cannons without being on helm though

[crystal ferry]

They do have plans to flesh out player ship interaction more.

[neon haven]

ah

[unique pond]

Thats a big stretch. The game is nothing like a "darksouls". In my opinion most players are in for the building (single or co-op) and the pirate theme as well as the lightwaited combat and exploring.

[raw rover]

Best single player game. Sea of thieves is the best pirate experience

[crystal ferry]

This is a PVE focused game with limited pvp planned for full release.

[somber wigeon]

honestly im a huge fan of the NPCs manning the sails and cannons. i would be happy to be able to get on a cannon, but i don't care for SOT's manual sail mechanic, and im glad we have a crew for that

[neon haven]

i've never seen anyone refer to ac black flag as best singleplayer game, just best pirate game. sot has a lot of problems

and sot is so cartoony

[crystal ferry]

Congratulations you have won the award for understatement of the century

[neon haven]

do people actually refer to ac black flag as best singleplayer game?

[raw rover]

Singleplayer pirate game

[neon haven]

or are you talking about when i said sot has a lot of problems

[raw rover]

Whats wrong with manual sailing. You think boats sail themselves irl?

Or you just dont have friends to man a ship with?^^

[somber wigeon]

the anticheat not working is a huge issue in SOT... had to stop playing because of the amount of times i would get boarded (with no fire bombs in my hold) and have someone throw more firebombs than a pirate can hold in their inventory. then to add insult to injury they made safer seas a kneecapped version

pvp is a gank fest in SOT now sadly (not due to any game mechanics rly, just dev decisions about pve and co-op play plus lack of exploit crackdowns)

[neon haven]

i like the manual sailing but i also sometimes want to be able to play a large ship without requiring a crew of real people

[crystal ferry]

It's def one of the top 10 single payer games of all time and def beat single player pirate

Y'all want a navy JBL music sea shanty

👀

[neon haven]

i think optional manual sail/cannon interaction could work

[crystal ferry]

Def for cannons l. But what I really want is for wind direction to matter

[neon haven]

like interact with cannon > npc gets off cannon while ur on it. interact with sail > npc gets off that particular sail

[raw rover]

The sailing atm sucks. Nothing like how ships actually work. Needs massive improvements. Its just like you are driving a car on water

[neon haven]

sea of thieves is a good mix imo

[somber wigeon]

def for cannons +1
i think wind direction will matter because it already shows up in the sky and effects smoke direction

[neon haven]

because in a game it's kinda annoying to not be able to move a certain direction when its a massive ocean

but with sea of thieves wind direction matters but you can still move slowly directly in wind

[crystal ferry]

Because like I want to pull up on an AI ship with the wind on my 6 and do a drive by on the decks with grape shot

I built my base based on wind and sunset . I have wind advantage on all red routes (I live in the green circle)

[lusty patio]

I've actually replied on the wind topic here. #💬│windrose-chat message

[crystal ferry]

Love you

[lethal plover]

hi all

[neon haven]

ah i see

[mild cedar]

I kind of noticed how wind effect exists already because of the flagpole

[crystal ferry]

Also ik it's far out if at all but https://discord.com/channels/1260209458924224542/1480065787007074407 allows for walled garden around worlds from bad actors and exploits in worlds. And easy monitoring

[lusty patio]

And coop activities on ship are a very popular demand (as expected frankly), so we're investigating our options. The idea though is to make sure that while your friends have something to do, solo experience is not damaged in the process. (We don't want to end up in situation, i.e., when you NEED to have a player controlling sails or your ships sails like pile of crap)

[crystal ferry]

Just a random thought

[neon haven]

oh nice

[lusty patio]

About 60 to 70% (roughly) of players in games like Windrose are solo players, so we should not harm them while adding fun for those who play coop

[crystal ferry]

Preach

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/coming-to-america-eddie-murphy-reverend-brown-amen-can-i-get-an-amen-gif-1753933885046006133

[raw yew]

Maybe something the npc crew can do that friends can take over if they are with you.

[crystal ferry]

Nah they're cooking

[lusty patio]

Maybe. We're looking into that, just can't promise anything specific at this point

[neon haven]

will we get 1st rates? i assume we will since a 1st rate was shown and apparently was in the alpha

[raw yew]

The love for what you have all created so far is great. So just keep on doing what you do.

[narrow sentinel]

A large portion of the folks who want multi-crew are from SoT, and fail to realize how unrealistic coop crews in a game with realistic style and ship armament is
I'm intrigued on how it would be implemented though as long as it isn't that route, having a couple buds being able to man 2 out of 20 guns is a bit pointless outside of some roleplay

[neon haven]

i've played sot a lot and even i realize that doesn't work. although never did consider how it would probably be un-interesting to man a single gun out of many

[raw yew]

I'd much rather have friends in their own ship along side. So i can send them in first and hide a bit

[fervent solar]

Id like to see friends being able to climb to the crows nest and hang off rigging

[somber wigeon]

im def not missing SOT mechanics tbh

[neon haven]

maybe in coop you could have 1 player steer, 1 player man a single side of guns, and as you get more players on your ship it could get split up into 1 steering, 2 on a single broadside each controlling half the guns and so on

[fervent solar]

I do wonder how many people would rather play crew than captain though.

[neon haven]

like arguing over who gets captain? captain can become boring after awhile, so you would want to switch up roles

in singleplayer it wouldn't be boring because then you're controlling the full ship

[raw yew]

Personal perspective I don't really want pvp. Option to turn on player to player damage maybe. Not enough true pve solo games like this out there.

[raw rover]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-phillips-i-am-the-captain-now-captain-now-captain-tom-hanks-gif-17194281

[neon haven]

lol

[crystal ferry]

Even if it's minor roles I can already tell you that this game is going to have a LARGE RP community.

[lusty patio]

New ship role - dedicated fisherman. Needs to fish and prep fresh food for everyone on the fly, since in 1 minute the fish will rot and become unusable!

(I'm kidding btw)

[neon haven]

lol

[fervent solar]

No, just wondering if most people would rather be in full control of a ship rather than taking orders, either way it would be fun, crew gameplay or only captain

[raw rover]

This is supposed to be a coop game. There's enough single player trash for a lifetime the last 10 yrs. Gaming industry catering to antisocial trends in society

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[neon haven]

at first yeah. most people usually want a role like that in the start but after awhile it gets boring and you end up wanting to play other roles

oh nvm i read it wrong

[fervent solar]

Agreed, turret gunning is a favored pastime of mine

[raw yew]

The dev just said 60/70 percent are solo players

[narrow sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-depp-captain-jack-sparrow-pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest-movie-gif-12406906

[crystal ferry]

Are .. are you telling a dev what their game is supposed to be

https://tenor.com/view/sealyx-naked-gun-the-naked-gun-facepalm-facepalm-meme-gif-11743768702765397589

[neon haven]

isnt that why it switched from a pvp based mmo?

[raw rover]

Does it say single player game on steam? No? Didn't think so

[raw yew]

Exactly

[edgy hatch]

Might wanna visit specsavers

[spiral swallow]

faster then me 🙂

[crystal ferry]

Yeah it's co op but it's not going to be SOT . Guys it's going to be co op optional. Not mandatory

[narrow sentinel]

I feel like there isn't really a good outlet for the pve pirate gamers aside from ac4 and sid miers
For pvp centric ones they got SoT, SnB, WoSB, and now the new Holdfast dlc
Pirate valheim you can olay with friends sounds good to me

[neon haven]

skull and bones isn't pvp like it was promised

[crystal ferry]

Yes, but also. Due to out cry. Market oversaturation, ext. They've adjusted. They still plan on implementing things but by God let them cook they listened now let them cook

[crude heron]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-oh-hello-django-calvin-candie-gif-3248775567374578411

[narrow sentinel]

The endgame is very pvp centric

We dont talk about snb though

[raw rover]

Nothing to do with market saturation they just didn't have capability to make pirate mmo

[neon haven]

oh im just saying because its kinda funny when thats exactly what happened

[raw yew]

yes, the demo has me convinced they care

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-sora-kh3-kh-gif-9443902621498154754

[edgy hatch]

Yikes, couldn't win the tag debate so shifts to disparaging the devs

[neon haven]

what lol

[narrow sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-sip-gif-25933597

[crude heron]

If you’re a real pirate, windrose is perfect as a current demo

[crystal ferry]

Hey love,

1. Check your facts.

2. Go play SOT if you want forced co op and extensive pvp.

3. Grow a better personality. Honey catches more flys

[raw rover]

Mmos take 50+ million to make and a team infinitely larger than theirs. Ofc they couldn't make an mmo. Thats just facts

[naive hinge]

where is early access ?

[neon haven]

i mean they dont always require that much money

[crystal ferry]

Prob about 4 months out

[crystal ferry]

That's my personal guess. But also now when anyone asks you are legally required to say tomorrow early access releases @naive hinge

[spiral swallow]

Games that have survival and pvp in focus have a hard time because Offline raiding, griefers and spawn killers. You can't stop any of that in those games.

[neon haven]

raiding isnt a requirement for pvp

[narrow sentinel]

Ubisoft had 650-850 million and a team infinitely larger than Windroses
Windrose's demo still beat Skull and Bones max player count of all time by almost 10 times with just a demo

[raw rover]

Wtf has that got to do with mmos

[narrow sentinel]

Who needs an mmo when you got a awesome pirate game

[crystal ferry]

Can we get a timeout

I'm calling foul on rule 1 for @raw rover

[raw rover]

Ok dude

[neon haven]

i bought skull and bones when it was on sale years later for $8. it actually sucks just as much as people said and isn't worth more than $8

[narrow sentinel]

I have an emoji named after me in their server 😢

Only for the game to fumble

[neon haven]

its not too bad of a game but not worth more than $8. the lack of content for anything more than an $8 game is sad

[crystal ferry]

Wdym that game is AAAA /J

[neon haven]

lol

[narrow sentinel]

Semi polite debates aren't warnable

[crystal ferry]

Mans been a menace lol

[narrow sentinel]

Were all owed our own opinions as long as its cordial

[raw rover]

Just cos I dont agree doesnt mean you can silence me. You'll learn that in life

[narrow sentinel]

The pvp/mmo debate happens bi-hourly this is tame

[crystal ferry]

It's the tude sir, not your speech. You're coming with an axe when all that is required are scissors

[raw rover]

You are entitled to your opinion but I dont need to care about it

[crude heron]

Then why comment

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-rogers-nightmare-clown-gif-19645113

[crude heron]

https://tenor.com/view/django-unchained-skull-ben-creepy-leonardo-di-caprio-gif-7924811

[spiral swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-air-quotes-neighbours-mike-myers-gif-16084400

[crystal ferry]

HOW IS MR RODGERS GIF OMINOUS

Lord lol I'm not threatening the man 😭

[crude heron]

Ben

[crystal ferry]

I don't understand 😭

[crude heron]

Ben

[crystal ferry]

What am I missing someone explain

[crude heron]

https://tenor.com/view/django-unchained-skull-ben-creepy-leonardo-di-caprio-gif-7924811

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/theoffice-michaelscott-facepalm-explain-likeimfive-gif-4936321

[crude heron]

https://tenor.com/view/dicaprio-meme-django-gif-18905524

[abstract aspen]

I'm sure what he means is that that's ben.

[crude heron]

Thank you tiddles.

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-rubber-room-gif-10524477174166992043

[abstract aspen]

No worries. always here to help :)

[crude heron]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-django-unchained-calvin-candie-shocked-gif-11450709520733372284

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/care-to-elaborate-lauren-german-chloe-decker-lucifer-please-explain-gif-17390851

[crude heron]

He died.

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/plot-twist-gif-20369693

[crude heron]

https://tenor.com/view/django-unchained-dr-king-schultz-thinking-dahbino-gif-12793389

[crystal ferry]

Wait... Are we making fun of dead Mr rodgers here ...

[crude heron]

Who

[distant marsh]

Juicy drama going on here? Popcorn time 🍿

[crude heron]

ALESTORM RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Ahem

[crystal ferry]

I haven't been gaslit this hard since my ex husband told me his gf was his secretary

I'm so lost in the sauce

[raw rover]

https://tenor.com/view/mayo-crazy-gif-4209603020466233750

[distant marsh]

Did you try looking at the map?

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/maes-b-lost-in-a-field-pulp-fiction-john-travolta-gif-14829328

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[crude heron]

Which song is your favorite twinnium

[raw rover]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-joe-biden-posies-and-joe-csu-choir-visits-white-house-gif-9532791699524824073

[distant marsh]

Captain Morgan’s revenge

[crystal ferry]

Bro you creeping on me 👀

[crude heron]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-blast-joe-biden-biden-blast-gif-6547929686164862695

[crude heron]

Solid, i enjoy man the pumps

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/demon-core-demon-core-incident-plutonium-gif-9056977038245353091

[raw rover]

https://tenor.com/view/spraying-water-blippi-blippi-wonders-educational-cartoons-for-kids-firefighter-shooting-water-gif-14995665909916648934

[crude heron]

More like manning a pump until you die from exhaustion

[crystal ferry]

Is Australia okay ..

[crude heron]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-of-the-caribbean-pirates-des-caraïbes-davy-jones-octopus-balek-gif-810529769628316245

[crystal ferry]

Controversial opinion..

https://open.spotify.com/track/05wB0mSpDASexc98oKZCOw?si=DyYjlJCOSG-hO68xvBSqWw

Is as good but in a different way

[raw rover]

https://tenor.com/view/crocodile-dundee-visa-travel-passport-thats-a-visa-gif-13847537

[distant marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-knifey-spooney-australia-bart-simpson-crocodile-dundee-gif-12120887

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/kangaroo-gif-12404655299310302654

[raw rover]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-irwin-python-bite-crocodile-hunter-snake-gif-11916138

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-confused-steve-irwin-gif-8572692128582069830

[raw rover]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19496494

[distant marsh]

Australian pirates plunder ships loaded with vegemite

[raw rover]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoy-matey-funny-trinket-alcohol-pirate-gif-15307758

[flat sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/passarga-pirata-pirates-gif-3076268905304273774

[umbral charm]

https://tenor.com/view/gibran-genjot-indonesia-gif-1650942122297963141

[quartz topaz]

full game will be released today?

[steady crater]

When we could get any info about future of this game? Can we get early access this year ?

[spiral swallow]

ea in 2026

[near zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/no-wheel-gif-3931605856521399814

Unfortunate... nobody could have foreseen that coming

[wintry bane]

when will servers be added

[raw rover]

https://tenor.com/view/87-years-gif-18840940

[near zodiac]

that was reply to "today" comment. No clue if this year though, might happen

[steady crater]

I think currently this is game that i am waiting for more then other

[raw rover]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-coroca-gif-9112257082821794556

[steady crater]

Blackflag will have repeatable activities and in 20h this game will be dead

[near zodiac]

I think it's very promising that core features of the game seem to be working correctly for the most part. At least to me it seems like only more content is missing

And with no way to know how much of the planned content for release is done, hard to say when the game is coming out

Although... would be very funny if the game were to do a full release before Valheim does

[raw rover]

https://tenor.com/view/black-and-white-raccoon-hehehe-hahaha-gif-11144867413304469897

[gilded kelp]

can someone explain how to enter the alpha build? i know u need to aply somwhere, but dont know how or where....

[near zodiac]

I'm just glad they released a demo. Before I was merely just interested how it turns out, but now that I've seen more of it and have better idea about what they're going for, 100% buy so long as price is reasonable

[spiral swallow]

no alpha build. Only demo that exist

[gilded kelp]

oh, i heard about some people having more then a demo so far, so i thought a alpha build was exeseble

[near zodiac]

eh... at least to me alpha build would mean earlier build than the demo

[steady crater]

What is the weakest point of this demo ? From my perspective ship fights are so so especially when you are on enemy ship the fight with all enemies feels wooden

[gilded kelp]

they had, alot of ships, more then the 3 demo islands, and tortuga availible

[near zodiac]

yea but whatever it is if it exist, calling it alpha would be inaccurate

[gilded kelp]

beta then?

[spiral swallow]

only demo that will last to ea later this year

[near zodiac]

probably. But at least to me alpha would mean much earlier build of the game where everything is in pretty rough shape

[gilded kelp]

i mean like a fuller version

tbh i dont care about what state it is, i just was curious

[rapid grove]

Mornin'

[stable portal]

looking at videos from months ago they have a lot more done that what we have seen in the demo

[near zodiac]

no offense, but obviously. The purpose of a demo is usually to show small part of the content, but in mostly or fully playable state

[stable portal]

don't think anyone is claiming otherwise...

[lusty patio]

It was a closed playtest last year, was a lot of content, but much more "raw" in quality and it was still with us hosting servers on our side

[spiral swallow]

And that was for Crosswind before namechange to Windrose and focus on pve/coop?

[quasi wave]

Hi, Devs!

[lusty patio]

Hi!

[lusty patio]

Yes, before name change

[quasi wave]

So, Im sorry we've been goin' ccrazy with feedback XD

I do have to say, yall need to re-evaluate the shanties.

#1478536694662959205 message

[junior locust]

i personally love the game so far...i finished the demo and have kept playing and cant wait for more content to be added

[vast hollow]

any news on a update?

[chilly crypt]

My wife and I also can't stop playing lol I would love the release like everyone else but the demo has more then enough to do. I enjoy the relaxing world in which I can live. Best pirate game, if they can give us enough storyline quests it will top sea of thieves

They also broke ground with a demo that has 4 player capabilities WHO DOES THAT?! 😃 😊

[chilly crypt]

Fingers crossed for Tortuga added to the demo 🙏

[vast hollow]

hopefully we get a new update soon

[tidal tiger]

Hi, Are wooden planks available in the demo?

[raw yew]

I wouldn't expect amy new content. Their efforts are fully on early access now

[vast hollow]

As far as i know there are no wooden planks

[chilly crypt]

Not that I could find

[tidal tiger]

Ok thanks. At least I know I'm not losing my mind = )

[raw yew]

some drop from destroyed ships I believe but you can't use them.

[river crater]

yeah we have to wait either for the early access or full release 🙁

[chilly crypt]

I was so sad when I realized the black beard insignias you get off killing pirates have no use in the demo

[river crater]

So i had to put windrose on hold till i have more content to play with

[chilly crypt]

I was killing pirates and saving them thinking I could trade them at Tortuga

Then I realized no Tortuga to be had in demo

[obtuse sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-kill-them-all-pirata-matalos-a-todos-matalos-a-todos-pirata-gif-15217348

[raw yew]

I understand why they limited the demo but damn I wanted more stuff to do. Can't wait for the early access

[split charm]

We all do.

[raw yew]

Better to leave us wanting more than have a very buggy cluttered game we didn't enjoy

[acoustic flume]

well of course, the demo is a hors d'oeuvre, you're not supposed to fill up on it

[river crater]

yeah, therefore ill take a bit of a break till it comes out. i can not wait. great game so far

[rotund yarrow]

So it’s not a mmo with some pvp anymore just a 4 player survival game?

[acoustic flume]

Homer excluded

[spiral swallow]

And singlerplayer

[acoustic flume]

dedicated servers will likely have more than 4 players

[waxen spire]

if i leave demo will my game be saved?

[rotund yarrow]

I had 5 friends total that all wanted to play together, even Valheim enshrouded ect can have more than 4…

[acoustic flume]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-monkey-gif-17161736773310556283

[chilly crypt]

Yea

The most impressive thing to me was the system they made where you can transfer items from your solo play to multi-player. Chefs kiss to the devs for that 🥂👌

Truly hope they keep that system when it releases

Truly makes starting over on a friend's island so much more fun

[raw yew]

also that you can craft the things you find, swords muskets etc. Gave my friend a full set when he started.

[chilly crypt]

Yes!!! Wicked!! My wife is really enjoying it and I'm able to help her exponentially with this

[raw yew]

real drop in drop out coop.

[chilly crypt]

Ha game can't release fast enough lol

[split charm]

When is EA? 😄

[acoustic flume]

that is an idea they borrowed, hopefully either windrose devs or a modder comes up with a locked to server character system like a modder did for Valheim as I don't want any twinks coming into my dedicated server.

[raw yew]

I'm sure there will be toggles for those things.

[acoustic flume]

https://tenor.com/view/what-if-what-if-theres-no-tomorrow-no-tomorrow-bill-murray-groundhog-day-gif-10874341

[crystal ferry]

Tomorrow

[crystal ferry]

Look up in chat we were talking about exactly that @acoustic flume was talking about my dream server transfer system with spoon

[acoustic flume]

having a bunch of different clients all running different mods isn't so good for server stability and syncing, servers like clients running the same files the server runs, especially item ID's and such.

[crystal ferry]

@acoustic flume

[acoustic flume]

something like that could work but it could be a pretty big file lol

[crystal ferry]

Def load up delay.

[crystal ferry]

But then again a lot of multiplayer games with mods do a server side process just like this

[steady crater]

Can i get iron pickaxe in this game ?

[acoustic flume]

not today

[crystal ferry]

Not yet

[stable portal]

iron is currently off limits

[spiral swallow]

Not in the demo and you can't craft gunpowder in the demo either

[crystal ferry]

The pirates make it for me I just harvest them with cannons

[steady crater]

When i check map I have buried treasure 1/7 did I miss something

[split charm]

The Ketch is a great harvester, yes.

[spiral swallow]

I know. But ppl will ask how to make gunpowder

[acoustic flume]

https://tenor.com/view/digging-thank-you-gif-8141656698417804254

[edgy hatch]

Bit late to the convo, but as someone who's done all of demo content yet is still sailing around anyway... doubt.

[crystal ferry]

Yes, you have to put on your glasses and do some reading and looking about

[spiral swallow]

you did not miss anything for the demo. But some info you find there is for the full game.

[crystal ferry]

Anyone find the EA code on Tortuga yet?

[split charm]

I'll find it tomorrow.

[spiral swallow]

Have always tomorrow 😉

[crystal ferry]

🙂‍↕️ can't wait for the EA release tomorrow

[split charm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hype-3

[stable portal]

Oh the guy with the interesting tag just got removed from the chat channel finally lol

[manic arch]

Any ideas of an early access release date yet?

[crystal ferry]

Tomorrow

[stable portal]

sometime before the universe implodes

[crystal ferry]

Who?

[stable portal]

He's gone now and I'm not repeating the tag 🙂

[crystal ferry]

Oh no

[split charm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/conspiracy-theory-1

[acoustic flume]

https://tenor.com/view/gasp-simpsons-cover-ears-gif-17628689

[crystal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-lotr-lord-of-the-rings-keep-your-secrets-secrets-gif-18066909

[stable portal]

He's been there all morning for enough people to see it. Wasn't a secret 😛

[crystal ferry]

Was it the 88 dude

[stable portal]

I've forgot his nick but it did have numbers in it

[crystal ferry]

Gotcha l. Good riddance

[stable portal]

yup

[split charm]

oh noes

[quartz topaz]

some release date announcement would by nice aye?

[vernal basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1349724792906846258/1479588110252769300/Soon.gif

[acoustic flume]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-buscemi-big-daddy-pointing-this-guy-knows-gif-11859501

[spiral swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-skydive-silly-sky-floating-gif-5691853925600607937

[graceful karma]

You can perfect block with every weapon?

[tough trench]

rather let them cook a bit

[stable portal]

🎶 It's only a day away!🎶

[knotty blade]

Its to early for a release date but why rush a master piece

[quartz topaz]

you're right, let's wait until 2029

[stable portal]

lets not....

[quartz topaz]

xD

[knotty blade]

Wouldn't be that long but the demo just released gotta give them time

[half hollow]

An estimate of what quarter of the year would be fine

[acoustic flume]

I can give you my estimate

[solid tinsel]

i see in some screenshot people have fishing rod ?

[timber badge]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-jack-sparrow-jack-sparrow-pirates-of-the-caribbean-savvy-tip-hat-gif-7863216380123951341

[hasty roost]

2026 is about it. Probably not Q1.

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-anime-frieren-beyond-the-journeys-end-beyond-the-journeys-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-16308807289954178880

[timber badge]

That was a great Anime breaking molds

[acoustic flume]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hi-hy-hey-gif-8520159980767013609

[hasty roost]

Jokes aside about EA.

It's really such a nuisance when people want to know the exact day, or the Quarter of when EA comes out.

Like. It'll be in 2026. Be patient damn. You don't need to know friggin the exact minute it drops, even if you like it that much. If you like it so much, then you'll just be happy it comes out in 2026 and you'll follow the product on steam and have the announcements channel unmuted. Or hel, you'll be in chat anyway just vibing and eventually get a date when it is officially know.

What's with people just being impatient or wanting to know Information that the devs may not even fully know yet?

[spiral swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/now-i-need-an-answer-now-i-need-it-now-gif-4402312

[acoustic flume]

https://tenor.com/view/impatient-champing-at-the-bitit-literally-horses-animals-gif-11613795

[unique pond]

Curse of success. I think noone expected that the demo was such a huge success and they underestimated how much players love the gameplay. Besides the demo was quite stabil and a lot of gameplay elements seems to be finished. Therefore players "demand" in early access date. I think the devs don't want to waste the momentum with bad early access launch with bugs etc. People just don't know how big the gab is between a small demo and an early access with much more content.

[hasty roost]

I feel it's also just a product of modern day society.

Wanting the next big thing, as quick as possible, then going to the next big thing as quick as possible

[solemn fog]

They've said they want to get the rest of it to the polish level of the demo, which is well understandable. You only get one first impression. I think, as much as waiting is difficult with how good it is, it will lead to a better result in the long term.

[hasty roost]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-time-fry-futurama-gif-12105436

[dawn depot]

https://tenor.com/view/the-finals-finals-soon-release-release-date-gif-15780878887841621711

[raw yew]

Faster, sooner, now!

[river crater]

https://tenor.com/view/tomorrow-annie-youre-ony-a-day-away-gif-13996266

[hasty roost]

EA releases TOMORROW, ALWAYS
-# or April 31st, which ever is more likely

Lol

[river crater]

not again 😛 @hasty roost

[raven dagger]

Agreed but I wonder if thats because we see it so often. If you've only ever asked once and you joined the discord to see if there was extra information you couldnt find elsewhere i get why people would ask

[hasty roost]

It'll release in Q5

[river crater]

week 54

[timber badge]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-coffee-a-nd-the-cups-shaking-coffee-shaking-fry-coffee-gif-27109332

[chilly pawn]

☕

[raven dagger]

Complaining its taking too long which I see in alot of games, well thats a different story lol

[acoustic flume]

https://youtu.be/U3pV_Mw4mrM?si=KWrMRMBVYc0PjIIB

[dawn depot]

I hope it will be live befor gta 6

[raw yew]

same

[raven dagger]

Whats gta6?

[spiral swallow]

it's a myth

[timber badge]

Grand Theft Autobot

[raven dagger]

So like wu Kong?

[hasty roost]

I suppose but I feel that can be a failure of utilizing critical thinking skills though. If you look at say, 10 different places and other official channels (steam, epic, reddit, twitter, hell, even here in announcements, whatever it is) and find the only info is 2026 instead of a more precise day, then it is clearly just 2026 with no announced day.

[raven dagger]

I just looked at steam then joined the discord

But i did read faq as well lol

[spring nova]

hey guys

[hasty roost]

Yup. FAQ and Announcements for me. They are there for a reason.

[spiral swallow]

oooh an person with reading skills. How many points in it?

[raven dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-dynamite-wave-bye-gif-5121301879489036543

[acoustic flume]

https://tenor.com/view/studying-school-reading-kid-child-gif-19991265

[spring nova]

https://tenor.com/view/john-spartan-paper-gif-18871080

[raven dagger]

A person*

[spiral swallow]

Hey now don't dish my second language now 😉 hahaha

[raven dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/ralph-wiggum-simpsons-hi-bye-gif-16529059407582436389

[acoustic flume]

hi ralphy

[dawn depot]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-6-grand-theft-auto-vi-rockstar-game-gta-gif-6329727031286793261

[hasty roost]

Lol

[spiral swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-6-gif-12415240131071510229

[hasty roost]

We got Fable later this year which is a great. I'm excited

[rough karma]

WHEN DOES THE GAME COME OUT

[hasty roost]

Ah yes.

[hasty roost]

2026 is EA.

[rough karma]

im talking about windrose just to be sure

[hasty roost]

Correct. 2026 EA

[raw yew]

How was training yesterday Savvie?

[hasty roost]

Went well, they accidentally told me 9a-11am when it was supposed to be 9a-1p. Which sucked because I had a lack of sleep the previous two days

So when I got home I passed out lol

[raw yew]

lol

[hasty roost]

And D&D never fired cause we were short two people. one person said they were going to be late (again) but never showed up(again). And the other is a truck driver and didn't know they crossed timezones so they were an hour late

[outer aspen]

getting pretty close to finnished now

[spiral swallow]

yeah stupid timezones.

[hasty roost]

Lol. Timezones, like I said in a comment in Offtopic.

Should just be following UTC. If it's 10am in central US. It's 10am in China. Even if the sun and moon are different.

Of course, my opinion

[outer aspen]

glimspe of the infirmy

[spiral swallow]

I have played with some from Texas before. 6 hours difference.

[hasty roost]

Yup. I'm in Texas. Central Standard Time. UTC-6

[spiral swallow]

I did read you where from Texas in a comment for a couple off days ago. Thats why I remember it

[hasty roost]

Haha

[lusty magnet]

also called "gamification of society" everyone hooked on G-Dope
won't take long before we treat devs like drug dealers and consumers like junkies

[hasty roost]

The land of Dr Pepper

[spiral swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/ifht-carbon-dealer-mtb-mountainbike-gif-13159345701758132112

[lusty magnet]

don't forget to hand in your newest polymarket bet for maximum immersion 😉

[hasty roost]

Do you want to buy a ghost? Opens coat

https://youtu.be/6tXsO35TQ-0?si=Rmdt0Ukf_LIRYb2R

Not often I get to necrotic this video 😂

[bleak current]

When will it release..Please I already deep into this great game and I'm really looking forward

[hasty roost]

2026 EA.

Everytime someone asks though, it gets pushed back a day

[spiral swallow]

soon 2028 then? 🤣

[hasty roost]

Yup. Soon 2028 lol

[hasty roost]

Feb 29th 2028 to be specific since that's a leapyear

[last jasper]

Every day that goes by without a release date, the more I fear this is just another Ashes of Creation.

[hasty roost]

That's pretty demanding

[spiral swallow]

That will be the same for GTA6 too?

[hasty roost]

Portal 3, BioShock 4.Half life 3. Lol.

Sims 5. Lol

[grim socket]

the town building begins , no way will i make deadline for the VP side of things , but goddamn if ive not lost 17 hours to this in the last 3 days alone

[hasty roost]

I would say fable 4 but the monkey paw is curling on that one and we have that releasing this year

[hoary compass]

how many days in game does it takes for the resources to regrow ?

[spiral swallow]

2 hour irl time for the stones. No regrow for trees

[last jasper]

GTA6 is definitely going to be released before 2030

[hasty roost]

Trees don't. Stone doesn't respawn. Mines are 2hrs. Idk sweet potatoes, cayenne pepper or misty orchid

***THE GAME DOES NOT PAUSE***

***You will die. And die. and die again. It's soul-lite. expect this.***

You can not get iron.

you can not make gunpowder (farmed from pirates)

you can not disassemble old items.

you can summon your boat even if your swimming (to help avoid drowning)

Tree ***dont*** regrow.

Stone Piles don't respawn.

You can't mine sulfur (requires iron pickaxe), and even if you obtain it, you can't use it.

The Copper mines respawn every 2 hours.

sweet potatoes and cayenne peppers do respawn if you dont mess up the terrain they're in

clay is the muddy patches between the jungle and beaches

you can worldhop to another world you make with your character (and later on, your ketch) to farm resources to take back to your main world.

read the notes you find fully.

Enemies hurt, upgrade equipment with workbenches once you know how

on a QWERTY keyboard, you can hide your UI with ***/***

some workbenches require a second type of workbench (cooking fire + cutting board) in the same bonfire radius to allow for higher level crafting

EA ***releases TOMORROW, AS ALWAYS***
-# Or April 31st. Whichever is more likely.

You can continue playing after the demo "ends". there is a building contest until March 11th.

send your feedback to the feedback channel in this discord.

co-op is buggy but generally works. best fixes are already pinned or posted in this discord

you can eat two different foods to stack buffs and have extra max HP

target lock is ***T*** by default```

[hoary compass]

thanks for the info. gonna look for the sun a couple hours than cuz plants are what i am in atm. playing at high diff and added a bit also. need that food for buffs :).

[final spire]

I keep checking, tomorrow never comes.

[spiral swallow]

I would love that. Because then I don't have to work in the slavepit.

[hasty roost]

But I need resources for my build!

[spiral swallow]

wait are you sending me to the slavepit? 😮

[final spire]

Just until tomorrow? 😛

[spiral swallow]

Monday-Friday is slavepit for me.

[hasty roost]

I just started a new job yesterday. Going well so far

[spiral swallow]

GG.

[raw yew]

monies for da pew pews!

[inland chasm]

is there anything past the 3 islands for the quest in the demo?

[hasty roost]

Moneies to get my car running 100%

[grim socket]

Project car or just like, daily car?

[final spire]

If you sail far enough, you can find death.

[inland chasm]

i found that, and mad i couldn't get stuff back

[final spire]

I thought surely if i just skirt the boarder they wouldnt kill me, I was wrong.

[inland chasm]

same, yea i thought i heard of a tortuga island or something

[spiral swallow]

Thats not in the demo. Only 3 islands in the demo

[inland chasm]

ok, thanks

[unique pond]

for me its before Gothic Remake 😅

[hasty roost]

Daily car. Need new power steering module

[acoustic flume]

good old Nameless

[grim socket]

Urgh, I've so fallen out with cars lately , hopefully you get it sorted soon 🥰

[cyan furnace]

I just came here to say... THIS game. Is a game i have been waiting for.. for a looong time. I hope it gets really fleshed out after time, because the demo alone is amazing already imo! If this gets alot of content i would play for years.

One question tho to anyone that knows. Is it true that we can't craft gunpowder? I've heard different things. Im just looting it right now.

[spiral swallow]

can't craft gunpowder in the demo

[grim socket]

I can't say I usually join discords and such of new games , I normally just wait it out, but the demo has had me more invested in this than EA of a lot of other games , it's just that good.

[cyan furnace]

Okay thanks for the confirmation

[grim socket]

Kill n loot the pirates as you've been doing, tis the way

[cyan furnace]

Same. Unless i have a closed alpha deal with them for my community i barely ever join new game discords.
But this just hit different.

Oh also if anyone knows. Is there a difference in where you build in the different layers of your base zone or is it all the same as long as it is within the big circle?

[grim socket]

Found it right in time for Larp season this year too 🏴‍☠️

[surreal sierra]

Ahoy and welcome aboard!

[tired dirge]

Somebody who knows the release will be?

[cyan furnace]

Thank you Matey!

[surreal sierra]

If its more fleshed out youre looking for, the Demo is only around 5% of what the rest of the game will be like. Its tiny and the full game is going to be enormous!

[cyan furnace]

Can't wait! 😄

[surreal sierra]

Full release is planned for Q4 but Early Access will be earlier this year. We dont have dates just yet though, we're letting the devs cook rn

[spiral swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/sunnyfication-gif-20299408

[tired dirge]

Are there already pricemodel for the game?

[grim socket]

about my only ever so minor thing id like to see is the ability to choose cosmetic appearances of armor parts , be that a transmog or an appearance equipment tab or whatever

[cyan furnace]

It's 4 player coop i heard? Is there a chance there could be private servers that allow more in the future or do you think the devs have that very put in stone for performance sake?

[grim socket]

other than that im enjoying it a ton as it is

[surreal sierra]

Pricing is still being determined. The devs have said they dont want to overprice it because then that means a lot of people wont be able to play and enjoy their game. I'd wager that pricing wil be revealed alongside the EA release date

[grim socket]

Looking forward to being able to support the development of it when EA does land , a game like this has been missing for SO long

[tired dirge]

Thx for answer, @surreal sierra - I hope it will be soon, because it’s a great game 🥳🥳

[cyan furnace]

Maybe i shouldent say this, but even tho im not rich. Pricing here is not an issue. IM getting it even if i have to save up for it.
Havent been this excited since i was waiting for Skyrim. Im like over the moon

[jovial nest]

maybe you should do a bug report thread from this? 🙂

[surreal sierra]

Windrose has hit a niche and very dry market with an amazing first step. I can see this game becoming THE next pirate game. A true Black Flag successor.

[hexed cypress]

So I got about 15 hours in (yes I finished the demo) playing around with the building mechanics and such... What a demo this has been !!!! Loving every bit of it 💜 can't wait until the release!!

[oblique rock]

i already charged my steam acc, hope devs will do packages , people who can't spend more just buy the regular , and people who can spend more can help fund EA or just have that shiny founder's edition cosmetic or smth , this is just imo btw..
devs might not end up doing this at all and that is perfectly fine

[cyan furnace]

Def Saturn 100%

If they do i'll fork out extra

[worthy pelican]

Will there be forts in this game?

[surreal sierra]

I suppose Tortuga might count? Other than that, gotta wait and see matey

[tiny depot]

I feel like sauron rn. All my will is concentrated on Windrose. I need news. 🙁

[surreal sierra]

I know some of what might be in the works for that. However its still way to early and nothing has been officially decided yet so I cant talk about it.

[oblique rock]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mib-men-1

nothing to see here

[cyan veldt]

Good morning all, and happy Sunday 🫡

[spiral swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/leyren-new-amsterdam-lauren-bloom-leyla-shinwari-shiva-klaiselvan-gif-24338656

[surreal sierra]

The Crew are trying to be realistic and fair with pricing. I can say that they dont want to have a 'super duper mega Early Access supporter pack Delux' and price it like $80 and lock a bunch of stuff behind it because thats dumb. Pretty sure thats been said in here somewhere

We aint Ubisoft

[lost jewel]

Give us another 5% of the game and take our money already!😜

[cyan veldt]

$30-$50 is fair I think, But would need to see what will be in the EA

[surreal sierra]

If I had the power to release the completed, polished and fully finished game with everything perfectly how people want it right now I would

Sadly I am but a humble Janitor and dont have that kind of power

[olive sentinel]

That's around my range 25.99-34.99

[inland chasm]

what is the 4th ship gear that looks like a book?

[cyan veldt]

Yeah it's hard to say a price when most of us have only played the demo

[surreal sierra]

@mortal star thats better off in #🎭│offtopic matey

[mortal star]

my bad

[surreal sierra]

All good 🫡

[mortal star]

i closed it out and it sent it idk why

[olive sentinel]

You could base it around other co-op survival games. Palworld & grounded around the 30-40

[surreal sierra]

I think its ship bonuses which are tiered items that give stat boosts depending on certain scenarios. I think the one I saw said something like 'Ambusher. Do +15% damage if not dealing or receiving damage for X minutes'

[inland chasm]

oh ok

[cyan veldt]

Never played those game, but going off what I have seen from early WindRose game play, and how the demo is, I would say that price is around right so far

Long as it's not like $100 I will buy it either way

[somber wigeon]

are there any uses for trading items in the demo? im hoarding them for the sake of treasure rn lol

[cyan veldt]

I have 113 hours in the demo so far, and loved it

[olive sentinel]

As long as that one is a deluxe edition, with a steel-back book, music, full map etc

[cyan veldt]

And some cool ship skins hell yeah

[solemn fog]

Hell, I'd buy it for $100. Most fun I've had in a game in ages. But less than that is welcome 😄

[acoustic flume]

but you just did

[olive sentinel]

I'd put my best guess around the $30-40 range

[midnight spear]

Good morning pirate family! I am new with Windrose and truly must say I am positively in love with the balance system in this game, it's truly a breath of fresh air. The water components are truly brilliant as well, the way it keeps your flagship in a state of wave movement. Everything is very well thought out and placed in areas that is appropriate. Truly well done to the devs on this truly incredible masterpiece! Thank you so much to all the hands of the devs that help bring this wonderful game to light.

[cyan veldt]

Seems fair

[surreal sierra]

[surreal sierra]

Ahoy and welcome aboard!

[acoustic flume]

now we know you know

[midnight spear]

Ahoy ye Captain! I thank you! A true pleasure indeed!

[somber wigeon]

now we know you know we know you know

[surreal sierra]

Well of course I know some behind the scenes bits and pieces. But as I've said before, nothing absolutely concrete or huge in terms of development.

[olive sentinel]

Imagine not knowing of knowing mods knowing before we know

[cyan veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-you-know-it-i-know-it-everybody-knows-it-its-true-gif-24093466

[surreal sierra]

Most of what our mod team know is public, we're just on top of whats released more regularly

[blissful dirge]

I neeeeeeeed more of this game.

[olive sentinel]

Ya gotta say what you gotta say

[surreal sierra]

Well I can reveal super secret info thats not public yet though, as a treat because everyone's behaving really nicely.

||Windrose WILL feature some form of Boat, and potentially a tree or two||

[olive sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[blissful dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/spoiling-game-of-thrones-stop-spoiling-sansa-stark-gif-14193259

[olive sentinel]

[cyan veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/wat-wut-what-lolwut-gif-4850067

[olive sentinel]

Welp games cooked now. We know it has trees

[spiral swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-did-not-see-that-coming-ichiro-paws-of-fury-the-legend-of-hank-i-wasnt-expecting-that-i-didnt-anticipated-it-gif-25947929

[olive sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/shocker-shocked-futurama-im-shocked-gif-5296191

[acoustic flume]

so trees do regrow!!

[midnight spear]

Haha this was truly brilliant!

[spiral swallow]

Not in the demo

[surreal sierra]

Sadly they dont. BUT youll be able to replant them

[olive sentinel]

I'm kinda glad they don't. It can be a hassle for coding, and I like the resource management style

[acoustic flume]

im reading all that as a yes

[oblique rock]

do we know how high a plot farm tree can grow? for science

[olive sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/runescape-osrs-woodcutting-gif-8426072699894164683

[oblique rock]

because those big trees in the demo if knocked over in a line can knock down other trees , so im thinking a boxed in farm plot for trees , then break 1 and admire the domino effect

[acoustic flume]

Run Escape

[olive sentinel]

Magic tree height

[olive sentinel]

I'm happy regarding collision.

Sadly I learned that when a tree made a skylight in my house

[oblique rock]

tree was just worried about your house ventilation

[olive sentinel]

Ahh

[midnight spear]

Same here! I have skylighting now lol

[oblique rock]

they are indeed the oxygen experts after all

[somber wigeon]

too many fires inside, no windows up top for rising smoke, tree saved ur life

thanks tree c:

[midnight spear]

Haha facts

[oblique rock]

real talk , same , really pleased how they did the tree cutting , when it falls down and touches the ground and "explodes" satisfying impact

[somber wigeon]

cutting a large group of trees so the felled trees are broken by the new trees falling on them, or dominoing trees is great fun

[olive sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/wilson-gif-27315800

Me when im stranded on a dead island with no wood

[oblique rock]

i remember someone having a wilson in the media share so this is accurate

[somber wigeon]

getting a few ketches to use the cannons for deforestation is great too, wave the ketch from side to side to use all the cannons XD

[olive sentinel]

Wilson has trained us all to create one of him

[somber wigeon]

the way the humanoid enemies (drowned and pirates) ragdoll when hit with cannon balls is great lol

cartwheeling away into the jungle (as collateral from my cannon logging)

[oblique rock]

if we had 3d gridless placement i would have built a wilson out of those circle grass chairs 100%

i think it was a log bench or smth can't remember

[olive sentinel]

I really hope we get a lore book (Pirate-log or a compendium) for the monsters

I'd be cool to have a little info, picture etc. Lore is always a huge thing in survival games

[somber wigeon]

oh yeah, in the journal would be great

[olive sentinel]

Ya just something in general for us story/lore people.

I'd like to know maybe how the drowners started, or what certain pirates have for loyalty

[oblique rock]

yeaa , that sorta thing also helps when you are building/looking for inspiration

[olive sentinel]

As well as crafting. Having the log tell you what mobs drop which gear so you don't have to remember everything.

Grounded as an example. A quick detail of the mob with some useful info

[smoky thicket]

Visiting an area called Driftwood Beach, wanted to share

[somber wigeon]

knowing which enemies are weak to which type of dmg would be nice

[oblique rock]

that killed counter , i need it , it's a small detail tbh but wanna see how many dodos have been sent to davy knoes locker

[olive sentinel]

I would like a visual cue or maybe the color of the damage changes to something if we're using the wrong weapon type against an enemy.

[somber wigeon]

we will do our best to drive them to extinction, eggs and bacon & dodo and sweet potatoes is worth their sacrifice

[oblique rock]

i'm more leaning towards a stat page like you shown from grounded so that the visual gameplay doesn't get affected as much , i really like how windrose looks crisp and clear, it could be a permanent icon like the bleeding we already see in the demo

[somber wigeon]

tbh idk if some enemies are more venerable to certain dmg types, or if its just my mind thinking that crabs die quicker to the exicutioner because its funny

BONK

[olive sentinel]

Some are weaker to others. That's why different weapons have different (types)

[oblique rock]

@olive sentinel but for the type of resistances/ damage they are , a visual clue like you said 💯

[olive sentinel]

For simple. I was more thinking weapons text is already white, it turns gold with a crit. It could just be red when using the wrong type

[spiral swallow]

You know you are playing a good game when the devs making so your footprints will show in the sand

[oblique rock]

oh yea that's way more subtle , anything that adds that type of feedback without disturbing the visual clarity is perfect honestly

[olive sentinel]

But I would also love a compendium tbh. It suits the more (book) sense for pirate and what they would write down for notes against enemies

[oblique rock]

yknow how in hogwarts legacy you open up your school companion book? it could be our Captain's log 🤣

[olive sentinel]

Captains log: BlackBeard Swashbuckler

A real pain to fight

[oblique rock]

im just having fun with the conversation btw , i don't expect the devs to do any of this btw 😂 don't have heart attacks reading it

[olive sentinel]

A "Captain's log" would fit the name. And it gets updated when us (Captain's) engage or kill mobs

[oblique rock]

it's all fun and games until you have to code it and rig it and .. and ... and... ooh 8 months went by

[olive sentinel]

I just need something for the lore/story.

Can't be a co-op survival and not have a lore book or something

[spiral swallow]

something like this?

[somber wigeon]

yeah but with total kills, and info

[olive sentinel]

No a actual detail

Like this

[somber wigeon]

resistant to busting moves

[olive sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-dynamite-dance-moves-gif-5025929

[somber wigeon]

yeah the moth is unbothered by that

[olive sentinel]

Lmao

[oblique rock]

if you read it like that "spicy weakness"

[spiral swallow]

well they have a start on something like that in the game. It's just works with the coding to do. I can't coding myself but I know ppl that do that.

[olive sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/a-man-can-dream-though-sigh-futurama-professor-farnsworth-gif-14501112

[somber wigeon]

i am become cook. destroyer of dodos

[cyan furnace]

Game started to lag and i checked my CPU and it was very high. It might run high either way. But i also discovered my cat was sleeping on the top exaust vent again god damit

[upper niche]

I hope they add just a tad more features to test into the demo

Addicted but I beat the demo

[slate bobcat]

hello guys, new to the game.

[olive sentinel]

Sadly no. It's but a taste

[green wigeon]

yes thamk

mast bracket, chat. Very strong

[spiral swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/just-a-little-taste-varney-castlevania-just-a-couple-of-bite-just-let-me-have-a-bite-gif-15375808298257435246

[trail timber]

Hello, this morning I watched a stream of a player going to Tortuga Island at the top of the map! I tried to go there myself, but it's not accessible in the demo. Is there another way to access it, or is there an update coming soon?

[olive sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-barnacles-funny-gif-gif-14509494416451968887

[boreal lion]

welp, i have finished the demo, and now I am sad cause it's over lol.

[green pine]

cough

[green pine]

u go to build mode

or sail circles around the 3 isles

[oblique rock]

already submitted my build last week , i'll take the sail circles

https://klipy.com/gifs/you-got-28

[somber wigeon]

dig a big hole for a harbor and beach your ship in it, because it is slightly too shallow 😭

it looks REALY cool though

[green pine]

ask dev's for buoys and make it a speed lap record
call it the kessel run

[oblique rock]

ketchel run

[green pine]

kettle?

[oblique rock]

ketch, the 2nd boat , ketchel

[somber wigeon]

can you build stone foundations in the sea for buoys?

ketchup

[olive sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-simpsons-now-we-play-the-waiting-game-gif-16327789852622540331

[oblique rock]

https://klipy.com/gifs/aye-captain

[green pine]

With thanks to an ai picture generator

kettle run bouy

yes Dev's you can use this idea free of charge

[cyan veldt]

Reminds me of Annie Edson Taylor 😂 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/T6OM7beZO8k

[reef tree]

there's 3 more island

[cyan veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/old-georgian-man-dancing-dancing-georgian-dance-georgian-georgian-dancing-gif-11779079431863635099

[worn saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-quack-running-run-duckling-gif-17120760958434934628

[raw rover]

This isnt the Vatican

[waxen spire]

anyone know how long can u [;ay demo hours wise

[spiral swallow]

all the way to ea is out

[regal oasis]

indefinitely, there's about 10 hours of "content" but you can keep building and doing whatever after you've "beat" the demo

[raw rover]

As many as you want but what's the point. Theres only limited content

[waxen spire]

sweet been inviting ppl to try it and they have alot questions i have 0 answeres

[regal oasis]

That's not true, you now have 1 answer

[spiral swallow]

then send them here

[lean folio]

Hello

[runic yew]

Any tips on why i cant hide my HUD

[regal oasis]

Do you have a US QWERTY Keyboard?

[runic yew]

Nordic

[regal oasis]

That's probably why then

[lean folio]

Someone know how to get Dodo's head for trophy ?

[regal oasis]

keep killing dodo's

[raw rover]

Kill crabs obviously

[final spire]

I got a few just by killing the azure dodos

[lean folio]

it's just a low dropping item ?

[final spire]

Didnt feel that low 😛

[runic yew]

Can the devs add keybind for hide HUD to settings. Takes like 10minutes thank you.

[lean folio]

hum
I dont' dropped one with killing 50+ dodo 😢

[regal oasis]

remember, this is just a demo, There's likely more options coming when Early Access comes out. If the issue persists at that time I recommend adding a comment to #1298615271686279208

[runic yew]

Sucks to take screenshots for the building competition with HUD on

[cyan veldt]

Use /

[runic yew]

Yeah, does nothing

[raw rover]

Try pressing the keys harder

[cyan veldt]

Works for me, try binding it to another key

[final spire]

-.-

[runic yew]

Tried 2 different keyboards, remapped to try it that way and nothing.

and there is no keybind in settings to switch it through there.

[cyan veldt]

Oh yeah there is no key binding

Maybe report / not working as a bug 🤷‍♂️

[raw rover]

Its a feature not a bug

https://tenor.com/view/gasparilla-pirates-parade-gif-13352040

[near zodiac]

Have you tried unplugging and plugging keyboard? Unllugging and plugging / key? Unplugging and plugging power cable? (sorry just making fun of the usual useless suggestions when it comes to anything PC 😂 )

[raw rover]

You need to pour water into your CPU
It gets thirsty from prolonged use

[rigid basin]

is there a way to try some of the other biomes or not yet?

[near zodiac]

Shouldn't be. It's just those 3 islands atm

[runic yew]

No, im making a script as a work around

[raw rover]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-online-gif-9800727944098993984

[rigid basin]

Damn.... I hope they open it up to play test.. I would pay for early access just to help development

[celest flower]

Are there a limited number of the coins used to respec? Say i wanted to try the diferent weapons and spec points into str/ag/precision

[grim socket]

you can always make a new world instance, and go loot more

[rigid basin]

you can save sludge it collect on another toon join drop coins delete etc. Its not alot to respec though

[celest flower]

Oh it's enshrouded-esque in that i can take the same character into a new world and come back with resources.

[rigid basin]

yes

[celest flower]

Cool, thanks

[raw rover]

Yes they borrowed many things from enshrouded

[rigid basin]

and other toons collect their own "New" resources when joionig your experience

[near zodiac]

Same system in Valheim

[eager kraken]

Really would like the devs to see this post . 1 hour in and im loving it . Thank you from taking me away from Dayz and Ark

[rigid basin]

Its a little kenshi, a little enshorded a little valheim. I think better in its own way but im partial to the genre

[celest flower]

Would recomend VEIN if you like DayZ, at least one to keep an eye on.

[rigid basin]

Maybe atlas too

Id like it if they keep it where its at though, i dont think i need a kite to fly about or a submarine

[celest flower]

I very much enjoy this time period of early firearms, and melee focus, so it's a good one for me.

[rigid basin]

Yes! Love the black powder delay its... mint

[grim socket]

how do stored resources work, like is any player able to access them in MP or?

[rigid basin]

yes it open... oh boo chat delay. I guess thats better than unfiltered spammers

[near zodiac]

Don't think the game would even need any new forms of travel. sailing + teleport seems good enough to me. Although I think it's interesting that teleport locations are limited to 10 🤔

[rigid basin]

I think you can designate security though so you can lock down particular resources or assign. There didnt seem to be any pvp elements. Im for it though once they have it able to lock

[celest flower]

Yeah i like the limit to make you think about where

also sailing seems fun. wonder if they'll pull in wind directions etc...

[near zodiac]

please no. I've suffered enough in Valheim! The wind is cheating, it always switches to the opposite direction 🫠

[rigid basin]

there are. If you notice you wil see even though you pull 10 knots at max speed there is changes in how fast you speed up and the crew runs to change the tack of the sails

well 10\ with the basic sloop

[rough schooner]

So the trick with sailing in Valheim is that there's prevailing winds which sortof circle around the islands. that's why they seem to shift

Also getting good at tacking is a good thing.

[raw rover]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-skill-bad-at-game-get-good-fumo-gif-24102981

[rigid basin]

There is Definity a windward side and leeward side of each island

[rough schooner]

the day I tacked into the wind all the way up one of the wider rivers I felt awesome

[rigid basin]

I think after paying attention to it it is in but not fully implemented to allow people to hop about and get a feel for it. Im hoping honestly for some more pvp elments that allow people to take over cannons, tacking and repair while one mans the helm

[rough schooner]

But I also like doing driveby shootings of greydwarf nests too

[raw rover]

https://tenor.com/view/jardier-brap-gif-20835735

[rigid basin]

Hell yeah. I did notice you can pick off some crabs, and pirates from the coast

[rough schooner]

Aparently you can get sulfur that way too

[rigid basin]

oh sick i wonder if ytou can get the iron then too

[eager kraken]

Thank you

[rough schooner]

Vein goes on sale on humble occasionally too

[eager kraken]

Is there a way to move work benches once placed ????

[rigid basin]

i think its unassemble and reassemble

[rough schooner]

You get resources back so it's not a big deal you can even move your bonfire around if you like

Worst thing is they get stuck somewhere dumb and you gotta jump around

[split charm]

Yes. Enter building mode, press middle mouse button and you enter into disassembly mode. Click on the workbench then.

[upper niche]

Yea I know how it drops this year me and a bunch of my buds wanna play together we have more then 4

[olive sentinel]

My guess is a Summer release
sweet spot would be 6-10 players if possible

[upper niche]

Summer would be their safest bet cause fable and all the others launching this fal

[eager kraken]

Are the devs actually in this discord ????

[olive sentinel]

Some yes

[olive sentinel]

It would be awesome to see it release during "Steam Ocean Fest" in May

But that's wishful thinking

[upper niche]

Agreed

[eager kraken]

Random one. Do we know if we will get pets

Like in Skull and bones had a pirate cat. Are we getting anything like that does anyone know. I've only just started the demo and only heard about this game for last few days

[regal oasis]

There's a wooden cat on your small boat... but no, no one knows

There's no pets in the demo anyway

[marsh igloo]

I want to teach my parrot explicit words

[olive sentinel]

I've got a post asking for adding Ship Cats, and others have put good ideas for pets as well, so we can hope for them

[hoary compass]

i am still focusing on land battle procedures and dont know if i own all recipes for the building mod is there a foutain in there ? thats a must have for style and every fort should have at least one :).

[brave plume]

Worth playing the demo or just wait for EA?

[mossy oasis]

theres not currently a more feature rich closed beta going on is there?

[olive sentinel]

EA could be as long as until Summer

So it's up to you

[runic heath]

demo was fire but not enough to satisfy so id wait but i really enjoyed the demo left me wanting so much more

[spiral swallow]

Always worth to play a free demo to get a taste and a feel for the game

[olive sentinel]

Agree, I mean why not try it. You're gona wait awhile either might as well

[surreal sierra]

Its a great first intro to Windrose for people only just now hearing about the game. I recommend it.

ALSO you get a special Spyglass decoration for your bases in EA if you play the demo. A lil incentive

[mossy oasis]

I ask this because I want to test something more current and be able to submit bug reports and feature requests, which im not doing here with the demo becasue its clear by the old crosswind vids the game is way further along

[hoary compass]

@brave plume take a step back and rethink your question after asking yourself this.

countries calling themself a democracy dont ask you really what and how the country is gonna run by law court etc instead waiting for the result you could play the demo give feedback and help building a game which you gonna like more than getting just the finish result you might not like.

Cross-references must be done by oneself. 🙂

[unkempt trail]

GOD DAMN I LOVED THE DEMO

[surreal sierra]

The demo is THE most current and up to date public build.

What you see from the old Crosswind stuff is, well, old. Some of it isnt in game anymore, some is still being remade, some is already good to go, and some were causing technical problems so werent included (gunpowder recipe for instance).

[near zodiac]

I had herd about it, but just seeing a trailer wasn't quite enough to be convinced. I herd somebody mention demo for Windrose so I tried it... now I am far more interested. Went from "I'll wait and maybe remember to check it out when it comes" to "insta buy as long as it's not too expensive"

[crystal plover]

The demo so far has been amazing.

[unkempt trail]

Do we have early access date or something ?

[surreal sierra]

The demo is only about 5% of what the rest of the game will look like

[spiral swallow]

2026

[regal oasis]

oh yea.. prove it... release the early access right now :p /s

[surreal sierra]

Nothing set yet but we know EA will be this year. I reckon itll be another several months.We're letting the devs cook rn

[final spire]

Should be tomorrow, that sounds better.

[mossy oasis]

but theres no plan for a final pre-EA closed beta or anything right?

[spiral swallow]

or April 31st

[surreal sierra]

Nah, there was the closed alpha last year, then the current demo and then EA will be next

[mossy oasis]

aye, understood capn

[surreal sierra]

And the demo doesnt have a time limit. It will end the same day EA launches

[unkempt trail]

Do we lose the progress

[mossy oasis]

i just.... NEED more

[surreal sierra]

Yep, progress wont carry over. Different version and game state

[misty lodge]

so, what's your favorite playstyle so far? I'm really enjoying the halberd, able to play a spacing game and initiate beyond normal melee distance. Only downside is if you screw that up, leaves you pretty vulnerable

[unkempt trail]

Oh ok

[spiral swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/hooked-patrick-star-patrick-spongebob-on-the-hook-gif-7028294883518124667

[unkempt trail]

Same but ı also use A LOT of guns

[mossy oasis]

Built a huge fort village. and its... empty

[brave plume]

sir this is a game discord

[olive sentinel]

I like the Halberd as well. I do hope we can get a Swashbuckler playstyle though.

[spark terrace]

#💬│windrose-chat message

[unkempt trail]

The thing ı love the most about this game except the aestetics is that it doesnt have stupid mechanics like "oh no your pickaxe is broken now"

[regal oasis]

unfortunately I think that's going to change.. so if it does we need to bombard the Feedback channel LOL

[spark terrace]

The lack of broken tools and weapons is nice. Gets old constantly repairing things in Valheim.

[unkempt trail]

NOOOOO I LOVE THE SIMPLICTY

[near zodiac]

That does serve a purpose in other games. It creates a logistic challenge when the game actually plans for it. But if that is not the intention screw durabilities

[regal oasis]

I'd wager to say EVERY game that has it, no one would notice if it didn't exist or really care

[unkempt trail]

I cant play other survival games because of the unnecessary things like that ıt gets SO boring so fast

[regal oasis]

Like flashlight batteries running out... y'all need to invest in energizer or duracell because these "it's good for 5 saconds" batteries aint it

[mossy oasis]

but i like that you have to refill the lantern

[unkempt trail]

We have the lamb that we need to fill occasionally it is enough

[near zodiac]

Kinda like how it works in metro, just crank that thing to recharge it

[spark terrace]

My streamlight is still running on its original rechargable battery from a dozen years ago.

[regal oasis]

I'm just tired of "durability" mechanics in videogames in general.. it adds nothing but an extra useless step

[unkempt trail]

It is just to stretch the gameplay time this does not needs it

[spark terrace]

I agree. I typically run the best weapons I can repair at a workbench in Valheim.

[surreal sierra]

Me too. Still working on the village part but the fort is pretty much done

[unkempt trail]

Tf

[crystal plover]

thats sickkkkk

[mossy oasis]

Oh I love the decoy cannons

[spiral swallow]

Thanks for reminding me about a chance to visit your fort

[surreal sierra]

There WAS a cannon decoration in the alpha that will probably make a return, but theyr not in the demo sadly

[lusty patio]

Nah, we never liked this mechanic in other games and we have no plans to introduce repair as a broad mechanic

[olive sentinel]

https://tenor.com/x5kl.gif

[lusty patio]

Maybe as some custom niche thing for specific things, but that's it

[mossy oasis]

Mine is much less well defended

[spark terrace]

The lamp needing fuel, for example, doesn't feel like a problem.

[acoustic flume]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-so-sweet-cute-bestfriends-gif-21153476

[lusty patio]

Yeah, it's one of the places where we feel it works nicely

(lantern fuel I mean)

[near zodiac]

The Long Dark is probably the best example of where durability matters a lot. Taking it away would take away a lot of the challenge from the game when it comes to planning for long term survival

[mossy oasis]

but ive got a cool 18th century tight alleyway going

[spiral swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/flex-gif-19796545

[lusty patio]

Crate of rum out in the open on the street? I don't think that's possible in 18th century!

[surreal sierra]

Oh THATS where I left it

[unkempt trail]

Damn my base is kinda empty ı realise now

[olive sentinel]

That's clearly milk

[spiral swallow]

damn it I wanted that rum 🙁

[mossy oasis]

It is when Fort Forty McFortface is occupancy 1

[spark terrace]

It just depends on the kind of game. If survival is the focus, then durability makes sense. If it's more exploration focused, with only a little survival, it's annoying.

[keen dove]

I am crazy

[lusty patio]

Don't do that to yourself

[near zodiac]

Also like it how the food system Windrose and other games like it use is getting normalized. In many games that call itself survival game food hardly matters, just annoying chore you need to take care of.

Like it far more when eating is not mandatory... but it sure as hell makes your life easier when it gives buffs

[spiral swallow]

if he want a challenge let him do it 😉

[keen dove]

I have almost 30 hours in this demo and I ran out of things to do, even beat the game on hard difficulty without dying

[olive sentinel]

Once Ship Cats are announced, this game can have all my money

[unkempt trail]

İt is kinda mandatory ıdk everyone just one shots me when ı do not eat

[near zodiac]

just don't get hit 😏

[unkempt trail]

OH OH AND I WOULD LOVE TO CHANGE THE FLAG OF THE SHIP

[spark terrace]

It's hard enough on normal...

[near zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/clair-obscur-expedition-33-simon-blocked-message-gif-4257928912113225379

[lusty patio]

Oh wow, yeah, then god bless

[near zodiac]

parry it all, ez (not related to blocking... just annoying text don't want there but can't remove)

[mossy oasis]

Pug with an eye patch for me

[unkempt trail]

Monkey or nothing

[olive sentinel]

There's lots of good ideas in my post

[near zodiac]

I unfortunately only used 2 hours to get a feel for it, just to know whether I'm going to like the game or not. There is only 1 first time of playing a game and I'd like that to be the early access release. No way I'd wait for full releease

[spark terrace]

A cat to keep the rats out of my ship's stores is great, but a wolf for an exploration companion would be top notch!

[hoary compass]

i am a big fan of survival games not those zombie ego shooter stuff and if you asking me ,food should not buff you just dont letting you getting malus without it.

[unkempt trail]

A monkey with a hat for the spotting maybe ıdk

[split charm]

How about cannons for coastal batteries? Defensive builds.

[unkempt trail]

I dont like the idea of that ıdk

[spiral swallow]

defenses against who? npc pirates?

[near zodiac]

cats on ships actually used to be a thing, funny enough. Rodent control, protec the cargo and most importantly... give that cat a pat

[chilly granite]

Who know maybe we get npc pirate raids like how Conan Exiles has purge events, that would be amazing

[unkempt trail]

This is a chill game for me ı would hate that

[near zodiac]

haven't tried, but is online purely coop?

ah... so no unfortunate accidents of cannons firing randomly at friends base

[unkempt trail]

You can accidentally shoot friendly ship but no melee damage

[regal oasis]

I wouldn't mind this, but there would definitely need to be some balancing, like.. I don't want to get raided every fricken hour lol