WHEA-Logger errors

[cinder rivet]

Question can the WinUtil cause the PC to have this many WHEA-Logger errors? im sitting at 12k..... in errors

I might have enable "windows insider" a week ago, nuked my PC with a clean install of windows using a media creation installer via USB

System:

CPU: i9 285k: (stock/intel boost)
Ram: 2x24gb: g.skill ck 8800mhz (running at xmp1)
GPU: 5080fe: Riser cable gen 5/motherboard pcie running @ gen4 > changed to gen 5 to troubleshoot, No overclock

-Motherboard drivers updated to current firmware
-Windows drivers have been updated CPU package, MEI, WIfi, Ethernet
-GPU updated with latest driver, same problem with driver from previous update.
-Reseated GPU/riser cable

[cobalt nacelle]

When you say WinUtil, what specific tweaks did you apply?

[cinder rivet]

Correct, after a doing a clean install and updating drivers. Wondering if its a normal thing that WinUtil causes WHEA logger errors and is normal

Just trying to narrow down potential causes

[cobalt nacelle]

Forgive me, I don't seem to understand. I am asking you, when you ran WinUtil, what tweaks did you run through it? WinUtil is a convenient frontend for mostly registry key edits, winget and other programs. Just launching it doesn't do anything on its own. To be able to judge whether something you did had the capacity to mess up your system, you have to tell me what you did.

[cinder rivet]

No problem thanks for taking the time to help me.

I just did a clean install of windows to remove windows insiders via media creation usb of windows 11

I updated drivers, everything I could think of; CPU package, MEI, WIfi, Ethernet, GPU updated with latest driver.

Ran WinUtil with standard preset

PC crashed. Check event viewer, and now I have alot of WHEA-Logger error 17 constantly happening.

Just wanting to check if WinUtil could of cause this.

And if this is a known problem caused by WinUtil

[cobalt nacelle]

Gotcha, thanks for specifying what preset you ran. I launched WinUtil and selected the Standard preset to see what tweaks it applies. I don't think any of them are the cause of the warnings. It's most likely improperly installed drivers. Ensure you installed the correct drivers for your card. Try re-installing them, selecting clean install (not express). You can also use DDU if you wanna be even more thorough.

For reference, the preset selects the following tweaks:

[cinder rivet]

These are tweaks I'm pretty sure I ran

[cinder rivet]

But I will try doing DDU just incase window 11 clean install did install some random driver upon startup with clean install

[cobalt nacelle]

Yeah, I don't think these could'be caused your issue

Honestly, I am fairly certain the issue was caused by your manual driver installation somehow

[cinder rivet]

Thanks for looking into that much. I will try out doing a full DDU wipe of graphic drivers

[cobalt nacelle]

Was there a "grace" period after you installed fresh drivers, during which you hadn't ran winutil?

Asking to see of your computer ran fine after you installed the drivers but before you ran winutil

[cinder rivet]

No grace period. I installed windows and updated drivers and all; other software like sketchup, lian li connect 3, brave, discord, bambu labs within a day

[cobalt nacelle]

Gotcha. Well my hunch doesn't change, but I had to ask just in case. I am quite sure it's some driver you installed that caused the issue. If you're in the process of setting up the system, as in you haven't spent too much time configuring things the way you like it, you should probably take the time to wipe boot install drive and do a fresh Windows Install

[cinder rivet]

Unfortunatly did not wait long until I did run WinUtil

[cinder rivet]

sounds good. If I can't get windows from having that weird error, I will make sure to try a clean install again.

I did run into a problem with the clean install cause I did have no ethernet drivers and wifi drivers.

I did have to manually install it once window was fully installed.

Did not have drivers on hand when it was installing.

I did use the command to skip connecting to internet.

[cobalt nacelle]

Huh, that's weird

Like, you had an ethernet cable plugged in and you still weren't getting a connection?

Is your computer a pre-built or did you build it yourself? And is your motherboard obscure by any chance?

[cinder rivet]

yes, exactly. The windows setup during "connect to interent" was being requested. I did not have drivers on hand so I ended up using the comand prompt command to skip

[cinder rivet]

Built it myself

[cobalt nacelle]

Gotcha. Your motherboard isn't anything obscure / weird, like some sort of server board right?

[cinder rivet]

I was directly connect with a ethernet cable*

[cinder rivet]

Nope consumer grade straight from microcenter

[cobalt nacelle]

Ok. Last thing, what Windows edition where you installing? It shouldn't matter per se, but you weren't doing anything like IoT, right?

[cinder rivet]

The media creation was made from windows main site and I installed windows 11 pro

[cobalt nacelle]

To be clear, the only reason I am asking about the motherboard, is because Windows is quite good at pulling in the required drivers. I find it weird that ethernet didn't work out of the box

[cinder rivet]

Maybe I should double check the link I used for the media creation tool

x.x

[cobalt nacelle]

Here's my recommendation. Wipe your drive and do a clean install of Windows. I'd honestly recommend using some sort of linux live usb to run nvme format -ses 1 /dev/<device_name> if you can, but it isn't super mandatory if you can't manage. I just like to do so because I've had mishaps with the windows installer formatting and partitioning before.

Now, I don't know exactly what you're trying to achieve with WinUtil, but unless you got something specific in mind, I recommend just doing Set services to manual and uninstalling all other junk apps from Settings -> Apps -> Right click uninstall

Oh, and btw, you don't have to use the Media Creation tool

Use rufus, it can automatically download the latest ISO from Microsoft servers for you

It can also force a local account set up and what not, way nicer than the Media Creation tool imo

[cinder rivet]

oh really?! noob question, How does one use rufus?

[cobalt nacelle]

You download it and run it

Just like any other program that provides a .exe

[cinder rivet]

okay I will look into that

Thank you so much for the help

I guess I will renuke my PC XD

[cobalt nacelle]

meh

Well the bot nukes my links, just look it up

Oh last thing, for rufus, to download the ISO instead of selecting a local image, here is the option (after you've plugged in a flash drive)

[cinder rivet]

Question, not sure if you may know the question to this

If I do go with getting the ISO from mircosoft, use titus WinUtl to make a MicroWin iso

Is it possible some programs that work best with windows like Autodesk will break?

[cobalt nacelle]

I don't know what MicroWin does to the ISO specifically, for your use case I personally wouldn't bother

[cinder rivet]

Could not find an answer on google for that specific quesiton x.x

[cobalt nacelle]

MicroWin is fine, it tends to be hit or miss at times. Use it and test the install on a VM first or skip it entirely

[cinder rivet]

George sir you are a saint for helping me!

[cobalt nacelle]

Cheers :)

[cinder rivet]

alrightly ty you for the help! hopefully this round of installs is smoother XD

@cobalt nacelle Am i supposed to use MS-dos?

[cobalt nacelle]

No

[cinder rivet]

I assume its not supposed to be "non bootable"

[cobalt nacelle]

Next to the SELECT button, click the little drop down arrow and select download

Leaving the rest as defaults should work, but do post a screenshot if you're unsure

[cinder rivet]

start button for some reason isnt working

ohh maybe I need reformat usb

[cobalt nacelle]

Did you set the partiton scheme to MBR?

Or was it like this?

[cinder rivet]

It was like this

I didnt make any changes expect download

But I do have the media creation tool on the current USB

[cobalt nacelle]

give me a second

[cinder rivet]

x.x assumed rufus would clean it

[cobalt nacelle]

Just know that rufus will format it

[cinder rivet]

but reformatting now

[cobalt nacelle]

Well I was about to say, if you got anything sensitive back it up but we're past that now I guess

[cinder rivet]

I pretty much everything on seperate drives atm

[cobalt nacelle]

Good

[cinder rivet]

thank you for the heads up

[cobalt nacelle]

The partition scheme is non-applicable for what you're doing, just select DOWNLOAD, leave the rest as defaults and let it run

Depending on your drive's speed and the USB port it should take 10-20 minutes

[cinder rivet]

ohhh

I did download the standard

should I of downloaded portable?

ohh I think it was the USB drives fault?

[cobalt nacelle]

Either is fine, the portable just generates a file to save settings in the directory it's ran from

[cinder rivet]

doing a full format of the drive just incase

[cobalt nacelle]

Did rufus error out? Because unless it specifically did not work, it will perform a full format on the drive

[cinder rivet]

The start button would not work. I closed rufus and opened it as admin

Checked for updates

in rufus

and start button still would not work

so reformatting as we speak

[cobalt nacelle]

Alrighty

[cinder rivet]

Unless I select something, start will not populate

which one would I need?

still how it looks

after reformating

[cobalt nacelle]

Click download

[cinder rivet]

ommmgg

im so sorry

[cobalt nacelle]

It's fine, as long as it ends up working

[cinder rivet]

ohh this version is also the 25h2 version?!

[cobalt nacelle]

That's the only ISO microsoft provides

[cinder rivet]

Ive been using the enablment package

x.x

[cobalt nacelle]

I don't know what the enablement package is

[cinder rivet]

lol... probably one reason for sure that isnt helping

Ive been on 24h2

and some reddit post has something that enables 25h2 for 24h2

[cobalt nacelle]

Once a new version is released, Microsoft stops providing valid download links for the previous image

[cinder rivet]

....... So i probab;y was download a bad media boot

[cobalt nacelle]

I couldn't tell you, you either install the newer version or if it's not fully out yet you need to enable Preview Updates and/or sign up for the Windows Insider program

[cobalt nacelle]

💪

[cinder rivet]

man this experience is far less stressful than my first PC build XD

all thanks to you ofc

[cobalt nacelle]

All good, I've never had "stressful" PC builds, I just install whatever OS and call it a day :P

[cinder rivet]

That's what I did XD, until had more time on my hands and started messing around with trying to get to 25h2

ended up thinking it was tied to windows insider....

screwed myself

[cobalt nacelle]

All I am gonna say is be careful what you wish for

Unless you wish for more co-pilot and A/B testing, in which case knock yourself out I guess

[cinder rivet]

yeah.... I just wanted a "smoother" windows experience which I heard 25h2 was better

But insider was literally updating windows like every other day and had to do something about it

[cobalt nacelle]

There is nothing smooth about Windows anymore, the best way to get a smooth experience is to uninstall it. But I ain't gonna preach anything of that sort to you, it ain't my job to dictate peoples' use cases

[cinder rivet]

LOL true. Uninstalling it would be the best solution. But all the research I could find was that adobe: photoshop, autocad; Revit, sketch up to be specific ran best on windows x.x

I am going into architectural CAD drafting and these softwares are my main programs

main reason this PC was built and I dont game on my PC sooo atm i am stuck x.x

[cobalt nacelle]

Yeah, that's why I didn't really insist. From an operating system standpoint, Windows absolute garboleum, but unfortunately there's a lot of software tied to it. Be it multiplayer games, productivity software etc. Learning to use productivity software is an investment, I can't say "well learn FreeCAD instead" that easily.

Personally, I am mostly doing software development nowadays so Windows is awful for me, but I can definitely see why getting rid of it would be an issue for CAD, video editing etc.

[cinder rivet]

yeah very unfortunate that productivity software are so invested into windows..... and I can't do mac cause of autocad which hates mac os

[cobalt nacelle]

It entirely depends on what you want to run. Some pieces of software have great alternatives, others don't. And sometimes it's your university or job forcing you to use stuff

[cinder rivet]

All my college classmates keep trying to convert me to some form of linux and I keep seeing the great things they can do with personalizing there OS. leaves feeling like I will be stuck on window forever

[cobalt nacelle]

I mean, they are right :P

[cinder rivet]

Its mainly cause my career direction. Many firms and companys ONLY use revit for 3D modeling builds. Can not afford to get stuck on deadlines when I find a entrylevel position

[cobalt nacelle]

Yeah that makes sense, the real solution is to get a 2nd computer for work you you eventually make money

[cinder rivet]

But my hold is 3D modeling 3D printable models and if that was the only important thing. Yeah I would dump windows and the other software tied to it and learn fusion or something

[cinder rivet]

main goal!

I havent touch a game in a whole year?

and just happy most release have been meh

[cobalt nacelle]

I still use Windows to play the occassional game of league but anything besides that is pure misery imo

[cinder rivet]

Will say archraiders has my attention

sweet, the usb is complete. Hopefully this install is much smoother!

thank you for the help again ❤️

[cobalt nacelle]

Let's hope so, good luck with it. Holler if you need help

[cinder rivet]

@cobalt nacelle I think that fixed it! Still a bunch of errors. But at least I think these are mainly for windows not being able to communicate with certain "things" it want too

thank you for the help!