#Auto-Taunt gear for Knights/Paladin

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inner spoke
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Maybe a headgear or a card, to remove Taunt on skill rotation and focus more and other skills instead.
Good for players who want to focus on tanking while using more useful skills instead of Taunt.
Sacrifices a good card or good headgear to get this Auto-Taunt in equipment slot.
Good for those who play with party or friends

simple token
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sounds insane

opaque anchor
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I think this is a bad idea

simple token
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maybe aa proc taunt passive on knight might work but

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imo overall auto taunt is a no go

opaque anchor
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I can already see it on shinobi if it goes out

inner spoke
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Care to elaborate how shinobis can exploit this, so that i can change my mind

simple token
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headgear card

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aka any class can have it

inner spoke
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Yea, and what's the pros for other class having taunting strong mobs?

opaque anchor
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For once taunt should be like an exclusive knight skill... And shinobi is know for abusing mist auto proc skills

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They even steal others skill just for the meme builds

simple token
inner spoke
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I see meteor, hydro vortex, and other skills

simple token
inner spoke
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yea, my point saying good for playing with party or friends

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just like other headgears and cards being ignored since others can solo

opaque anchor
inner spoke
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hydro vortex 1 doesnt have that long casting

opaque anchor
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Taunt at any level is already good on its own

inner spoke
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yea, my point is to remove it in the skill rotation

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so while dishing out skills, it can proc taunt

opaque anchor
inner spoke
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that's why i suggested "Auto-Taunt"

opaque anchor
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Yeah and u compared to hydro vortex and meteor that don't auto proc

inner spoke
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yea, i replied because you said about exclusive skills

simple token
inner spoke
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even if i didnt use that as an example, venom strike, holy light, etc, those are aa type skills

opaque anchor
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While taunt cannot

simple token
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normally i woulda given warrior with shield as the dps example but paladin is lowkey stronger than that now

opaque anchor
inner spoke
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yea, shinobis can mimic, but what about others. shinobis can only mimic offensive skills, and not buffs

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and taunt isn't considered an offensive skill

opaque anchor
inner spoke
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and what's the point of shinobi getting them?

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like i said earlier, tell me how shinobis can exploit the skill, so that i can change my mind

simple token
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once they nerf pally to oblivion other classes will take paladin's tank role

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cuz they have access to taunt

opaque anchor
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Having a continous taunt and just afk grinding on a spot

blissful rain
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Instead of an "auto taunt", the same fundamental idea could be achieved by looking at how some other games (WoW, etc.) do threat/aggro generation. A specific stat could be picked, defense for example, and the player in a party with the highest defense could automatically draw the most threat by default from mobs as they spawn.

opaque anchor
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Or you would see every class making taunt trains to farm

inner spoke
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how would that affect anything? for 1, shinobis arent tanky enough to grind on high lvl maps, and also, knights already do this with reflect build

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and there's no auto loot, the only point would be exp

opaque anchor
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Well if shinobi is not that good for high level maps why does it keep getting nerfed... And shinobi was just the first example that came to mind...

opaque anchor
simple token
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ill be honest early game i also asked for a taunt mask or hat

inner spoke
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shinobis got released first so it's still being balanced until today. eventually priests and pallys will be nerfed as well. This suggestion was to make it so that there can be party runs for bosses, and tanks can focus on using more useful skills and remove taunt in the skill rotation. Or maybe not Auto-Taunt, but something similar to those that proc

simple token
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but yea i think rn most of the tank's identity is tied to taunt

blissful rain
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inner spoke
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yea, I have taunt on my mouse 3 (left side button), which helps. the problem for me is the time wasted when using it which could be used for other skills. well for now, i have put on the suggestion. if it can't be, then atleast i tried.

opaque anchor
simple token
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imo it should be a passive for knight normal attacks to do at least single target taunts

inner spoke
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yea that seems plausible, rework taunt to be passive and each hit generates taunt something like that

simple token
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thats more of reworking the aggro system

opaque anchor
simple token
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true

keen citrus
keen citrus
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that isnt how reflect builds work and its honestly getting annoying how manyp eople keep spreading misinformation to get things changed to how they want thme.

inner spoke
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i said shinobi first in regards to priests and paladin, if you can understand the context. and how is anything i said misinformation? that's how i use reflect knight when i lvld up, afk on a map and kills mobs with reflect damage. there are other ways to use reflect knights, and it's not limited to one. plus i also see other players do this, afk on one map and let reflect kill mobs. understand the point before butting in please.

keen citrus
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Please post a video of you afking in a high level map and killing them with pure reflect. I'd love to see it.

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Or you just plan to say " yeah i can kill mobs in a lvl 40 map with reflect"

inner spoke
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like i said, understand the context before butting in. he's talking about shinobis exploiting taunt as if it helps shinobis in higher lvl maps to grind.

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and as i said "knights" use this, not paladin

keen citrus
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Yes. So. Post the proof that knights use this to afk farm high levle maps.

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I'm waiting.

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That is your statement.

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Beyond the pale of saying a skill that currently allows party gameplay to even function by holding aggro onto the paladin/knight is "useless" and should just be reduced to automation.

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I'd like you to prove this claim you've made.

inner spoke
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and what's your point? are there no skills automated in this game? did you even understood what i said? did i refer to knights grinding to higher levels or shinobis? if you want to prove something wrong then prove how would auto-taunt be useless? dude get a break

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i said so earlier, prove how it can be exploited so that i can change my mind. give that constructive criticism

keen citrus
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yes you did

inner spoke
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did you see where i said knights use this in higher levels?

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or did you see where i said shinobis?

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also give the argument about the auto-taunt, saying that's it's "useless" is not an argument

keen citrus
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you are the one saying taunt is useless

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and that other skills are more useful

inner spoke
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would do you think i would suggest auto-taunt if taunt is useless?

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i said there are other more useful skills, not implying that taunt is useless

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i suggested it cause it works well with how JB, GC, and DP works

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that it triggers hit effts

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effects*

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if i can get those skills apply taunt, then i dont have to manually cast time every time

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just like how venom strike, holy light, etc, are made into auto casts

keen citrus
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those are damage skills and are reduced drastically in effectivness

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Taunt is a utility skill

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making it level 1 doesnt change what it does

inner spoke
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there's no rule yet saying it can't be done, i'm just waiting if this suggestion would be accepted or rejected

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if it gets accepted, then it would benefit those who play with friends

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if it gets rejected, then at least i tried

keen citrus
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If it gets accepted its a requirement for every build because why would you ever not automate it.

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It dumbs down an already low-effort role

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and introduces unhealthy traits of actual permanent no risk taunting

inner spoke
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it's would just be the same for using AA build, you're basically saying that AA builds are also low-effort

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and even if it is, then what's the problem with it?

keen citrus
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No. Because Autocast builds use a LOWER LEVEL version of a skill that does less then the normal spammed skill

inner spoke
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and taunt is also a low lvl skill

keen citrus
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bro do you know how autocasting works?

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At all?

inner spoke
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boss behavior was changed that bosses now target random players

keen citrus
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Taunt is not a low level skill

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Level 1 taunt

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and level 5 taunt

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do the same thing functionally

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its just a damage debuff that changes

inner spoke
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i know very well how autocasting works

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and that's the cons of autocasting, you get the limited lvl the item or card would give you

keen citrus
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A damage skill is much more directly influenced by being a lower level

inner spoke
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i never said that they should give lvl 5 taunt for it

keen citrus
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then a utility skill

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bro

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LEVEL ONE TAUNT

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AND LEVEL 5 TAUNT

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DO THE EXACTLY THE SAME THING

inner spoke
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but the debuffs it gives isnt

keen citrus
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the debuff it gives is irrelevent to the actual purpose of the skill

inner spoke
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damage autocast skills usually give lvl 3, which scales when player have a higher stat for the damage calculation

keen citrus
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no1 is clicking taunt going "fuck, yeah damage melee buff"

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They give level 3 or they give level 2. The level does not scale.

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It is purely based on the max level of the actual skill

inner spoke
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but the damage scales with the stats the players have

keen citrus
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a level 10 cap skill is always level 3

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and a level 5 cap skill is always level 2

inner spoke
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that's why i never said what lvl they can make the auto-taunt, they could make it lvl 1 for all i care

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as long as it taunts

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and it doesn't have to be a the taunt skill

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just like how Endure was made

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there is a card that gives immune to flinching

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dont tell me that doesnt count

keen citrus
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the def/mdef on endure is signficiantly more impactufl

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then the damage Melee from taunt

inner spoke
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that's the point

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the suggestion is for auto-taunt

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it doesnt necessarily have to be the skill

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just the taunt function

keen citrus
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the actual TAUNT portion of taunt is the fuckign entire draw of taunt. To keep targets on you and not destroying your fucking party

inner spoke
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that's the point, if you have that kind of item

keen citrus
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ok w/e im done

inner spoke
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it's ok if you don't understand the suggestion, let the devs decide

keen citrus
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love the insistence you have on trying to insult my intelligence.

inner spoke
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just think of how it can affect the gameplay and see the pros and cons

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i suggested based on what i think is needed