#Change clones to be a buff

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left nova
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I've noticed most of your sustain comes from your clones being alive and most the time you die as shinobi is when your clones are dead. When there is a lot of mobs on screen there is no way to tell if your clones are alive other than staring at your MP bar so having clones as a buff rather than them having hp and making skill lvl increase buff duration would make it a lot easier to monitor and feel much nicer to play and having you focus on the game more rather then staring at your MP bar all day.

night pelican
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U mean like a small icon

warm dragon
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U mean clones based on duration instead of hp?

left nova
warm dragon
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Try this instead.. Put ur shadow seal on mouse right click... I have it there so whenever I turn the screen I have clones summoned

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Don't need to monitor it

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Just click it every now and then plus when u turn ur camera

left nova
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I dont think something with 1hp is really a good decoy and I dont think thats how they are intended, even if the numbers needed to be tuned down I think it would just feel much nicer as a buff

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could change the feint to spawn a "decoy", I think that would give the skill more use/utility to the skill

warm dragon
left nova
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yeah I know but a 1hp clone rather than something that taunts/takes agro

left nova
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Like its a rogue not a summoner class, shouldn't be focused on summoning every 2 seconds

south nest
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I think a nice middle ground of the 2 would be they functionally stay the same, but you just have a buff icon with a number to show how many are still alive

hybrid perch
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a shinobi regularly spamming clones as a diversion tactic is pretty on brand though.

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definitely agree there should be a ui element to help tell you whether your clones are up or not

left nova
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I don't think the clones act as or are meant to be a diversion tactic tho, they are just increased DPS/sustain. It's not like they aggro mobs for you or provide you with some sort of defensive utility. They just have 1hp get hit when you do, they don't taunt or block any damage for the player, if that was the case I'd have a different opinion but I think them being a buff would feel way better, just like how it is in Ragnarok online or MapleStory with assassin shadow partner.

hybrid perch
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they eat targeted spells for you the most broken defensive you can have

left nova
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You have no control over them tho, it's completely rng and most the time your clones are hit is when you are also hit. It just doesn't feel good but it you think having a summon you need to spam every 2 seconds that you have no control over that you also can't reliably track is good game design for a rogue class then idk what to say. I think it would feel much better if they were a buff/non targetable and if decoys/taunts were a seperate thing if that type of utility was to be added to rogue at all it should be done properly.

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Like changing the vault to leave a decoy behind for a few seconds that taunts enemies/takes agro would be my suggestion for something like that

left nova
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No the clone is the regular 1hp clone, it doesn't taunt or take aggro

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Essentially shadow seal and feint are pretty interchangable right now, one skill just moves the character