QoL request - Vigour's Epiphany talent.

[teal kraken]

This is really a request for most proc talents but could it would be really nice to be able to hold 2 stacks of Epiphany to prevent back to back procs from being wasted.

[latent lake]

Id rather it just reset CD, but both of these changes would be a crazy dmg buff, hehe.
It is an extra annoyance Vigour could' do without though.

[vale mirage]

I think for a 2 point talent, 2 charges isn’t too much to ask.

[teal kraken]

Vigour is kinda hurting for rune gen this season so the free orbs are nice. 2 stacks just basically covers those edge cases where you get 2 procs between cooldowns.

I think I'd also be fine with procs just resetting the CD and making it free.

[vale mirage]

Could also just make procs stack up to 3 so you can hold them and dump them when you want

[scenic dove]

This isnt a QoL request, you want vigour to be buffed and he does not need a buff. Especially not the orb build since its already his strongest build.

[teal kraken]

I'm fine if they nerf it to a way where it works out to be the same. Maybe 2 stacks but only gives 50% CDR. The point I was trying to get across is it feels bad getting chain procs and having them wasted.
With 50% CDR you'd be firing an orb like...every 3 seconds instead of 2 back to back in its current iteration?

[latent lake]

Misunderstanding I think then. What I meant was that you get your free proc, but instead of it ever being wasted because it is on CD when the proc happens, it resets the CD and you get a free cast.

[teal kraken]

Yeah that's totally fine IMO.

[vale mirage]

It’s a qol for how it feels to play.
ATM it’s functionally trash.

[scenic dove]

It is a buff and as said earlier, vigour does not need a buff atm. Just because it doesnt feel good to lose out on stacks doesnt mean the hero is bad in any way, it just feels bad.

[vale mirage]

Ur ability to think is very limited.

It’s better to change something so it feels better to play then adjust the numbers after IF it’s stronger than it needs to be instead of let something continue feeling bad to play.

This is not about the strength of the character but how a specific thing functions. All else can be adjusted after making it feel good to play.

[scenic dove]

You’re telling me a hero feels bad to play cause its getting too many proccs and you cant use them all, well if you so badly wanna use all your proccs then just dont shoot 2 balls in a row and you can use all your proccs. Just because you’re choosing to do that the hero doesnt need another buff when its performing well. And that ”feel bad” feeling is a personal feeling for you guys cause I personally like how vigour feels to play with.

[teal kraken]

Can you just....stop talking in hyperbole? Vigour doesn't feel bad to play. I'm a vigour main, I agree he's overall in a good spot. That doesn't mean that he's forbidden from getting any polish that makes him feel a bit less clunky to play.
I'm not screaming for vigour buffs, I'm mentioning Epiphany feels a bit clunky to play in the event you get 2 back to back procs, and gave an idea to maybe make it feel better. I was giving feedback. This is a feedback channel, is it not?

[scenic dove]

How does it make you feel clunky to play a hero that just gets a proc on a an already existing procc??!?!? No you just feel bad cause you know you got a procc when you already had a procc active, thats a whole different story and its not making vigour bad or feel clunky in any way.
It only feels bad because you are thinking that you are wasting a procc when in reality you're just refreshing your current procc cause that spell is on CD which is normal for a procc to happend sometimes. Epiphany doesnt need a repolish, his other talents however needs to be repolished so that they are playable.

[teal kraken]

I think I'm better at describing my own player experience than you are, but thanks anyways.

I'm talking about back to back procs, like within a global cooldown or 2, not 2 procs in between orb cooldown. You could easily get 2 procs in a global from following a dawnflare or GD soulbrand with radiant blast.

To me, this feels bad. To you, it doesn't. We have different opinions and that's fine.

[scenic dove]

My main point was that it doesnt need a buff which you are asking for. If it had 2 charges the talent would be buffed by 100% i.e.

[teal kraken]

Hey so I've already given multiple suggestions for it not to be a buff, and I'm fine if they rework the talent a bit so his power level remains overall the same. Perhaps you missed that part.