what y'alls opinions on smurfing

[orchid nacelle]

It's boring unless you are trying to learn a new role

[dark junco]

Smurfings fine to learn a new role/champ, otherwise its pretty bad for the game

[orchid nacelle]

It's hard to smurf nowadays anyway

Your decay account is placed into smurf queue

Your new account you're playing on is going to be placed in smurf queue

[dark junco]

u can buy an acc for 3$, troll some normals games on it, then go straight into placements and u will be playing with bronzies lool

esp if u duo with someone in bronze/silver

[orchid nacelle]

That sounds boring

[maiden obsidian]

If you arent doing it to:

• let your friends play against equal opponents in norms
• learn a new role

You're a loser

[full pollen]

SMURFING IS A W

https://gyazo.com/21963d09192b61c85bd671b6295dac6c

[orchid nacelle]

It's hard to practice in norms

And if I brought my Katarina into d1/low master MMR I deserve jail

[upper drift]

Huge L, imagine not being able to win against mfs your own rank 🤓

[brazen karma]

true

[brazen karma]

especially if last time you played norms was few years ago and your norms mmr is like 4 ranks below your solo q mmr

[midnight bane]

L takes. Not everyone wants to run on 100% full throttle while playing the game 24/7. Smurfs are a way to just enjoy the game for what it is without having to be a sweatbox. However if your one of the smurfs that constantly berate the ppl in the elo ur smurfing in ur a POS. But largely just chilling and playing the game is fine which is what most smurfs do.

[glacial magnet]

The problem with Smurf is that they ruin low elo games as it just becomes a 1v9

[fresh ridge]

it’s annoying to see a 21/1 samira who has a like 90% wr in your games, as someone in bronze you dont learn anything from being stomped so hard by a smurf (often toxic too with massive egos)

often times theyre not even THAT good they just snowballed so hard that no one can solo nor duo kill them

if someone wants to smurf dont do it in ranked ffs

[brazen karma]

low elo players tend to have ego's on their own. Few months back I was playing on a mid plat account as kai'sa jungle and my corki mid was flaming me because he died 1v1 to his laner 3 times. I told him to shut and he went afk. Still won that game

[brazen karma]

because they play for fun and way more greedy than they would have normally

[fresh ridge]

happens, low elo has inflated ego as well

[brazen karma]

and smurfing outside of ranked is boring af

smurfing in general is boring

[fresh ridge]

still fucking ruining other ppl’s fun by just being a better player

[brazen karma]

it's like boxing with toddlers

[glacial magnet]

I can see how smurfing is fun

Being the main character is always fun

[fresh ridge]

seems fun for like 2 games and then it being lane

[brazen karma]

maybe for 1 to 2 games after that it gets boring

[fresh ridge]

lame *

[brazen karma]

agree

[glacial magnet]

Ye

[brazen karma]

100%

[fossil cedar]

you get smurf queue bro haha

be grateful to be granted the opportunity to improve by experiencing the gameplay of better players

[maiden obsidian]

Just play 4 fun on main then. You're literally saying "i dont want to try hard" but also "im down awful thirsty for wins"

if the only way you can relax on this game is to go 24/2/5 you are a loser

[floral mauve]

Constantly berating people in the elo while smurfing is good

at least I always apprechiate it

Plat smurfs are absolute shit

but when high dia/masters smurfing and they tell me "Azir push wave in and come botlane" or smth like that I will listen to them and apprechiate it

or "Look at map Azir, watch dragon" and then I watch what will happen in the next 10 sec or so

ready to move

[smoky granite]

I think smurfing with your main champ is not okay, since you generate nothing productive
But if I'm smurfing on a different role/champ
I'm not playing at my main rank level

[floral mauve]

True

[smoky granite]

Basically what Assassadin said tho

[dusty dove]

yes

if im playing offrole first timing on main acct

that is rly illegal so

i would hope others would think the same

[midnight bane]

thats just telling u how to play not talking shit the whole time

[midnight bane]

thats not what i meant. PLaying norms is a big waste of time your not playing for anything nothing and throwing ur ranked games cuz ur on autopilot is stupid. So you go on a smurf, play on auto pilot or stuff ur not that great at like pocket picks, and play for fun.

[smoky granite]

Nah the smurf is being annoying

Why they trying to micromanage in a low elo game

[floral mauve]

To help people out ?

[smoky granite]

They really don't need to do that to win

[floral mauve]

But its still useful

if you pick up some habbits they teach you

for the long term

[smoky granite]

The smurf is just a control freak or has a hero complex

It's not habits

they are just telling you what to do

[floral mauve]

lol

[smoky granite]

And you aren't learning anything from it

[floral mauve]

When they tell me when to push the wave in and when to roam and why

[smoky granite]

You will create bad habits from orders

You need to know why you are doing it

and when

[floral mauve]

that is good quality information

[smoky granite]

They tell you why, that's better than nothing
Tho still not that useful

[floral mauve]

Idc when they tell me what to do even if they dont tell me why I will still think about their suggestion

and maybe figure out some stuff

if they r annoying I can still mute them

smurfs who do that are still 100% better than those who dont tell you anything just mass-ping you, troll you and BM you

Or those who spam the chat with pure insults and toxicity

[maiden obsidian]

"i just want to relax"
"playing for nothing is a waste"

are you 14?

[midnight bane]

if i ever wanna autopilot and just play i go on a smurf and autopilot. if i do good i do good if i dont i dont

[maiden obsidian]

why not just autopilot on main

[brazen karma]

Double loss of time

Since you need to get back that lp

[maiden obsidian]

sounds like somethin a loser says

[orchid nacelle]

no need to be aggressive towards others, this is not a place to argue but rather to share opinions advices and tips

@maiden obsidian you might wanna check #rules 2.

[restive fiber]

you can't play autopilot in masters+ unless u want ur account to be d4 by the end of the week

smurfing is absolutely necessary for higher rank players that want to play casually and still be able to climb

it shouldn't matter anyway because the rank u end up at is just your skill level while not trying so it shouldnt change anyones games

and i really dont feel any sympathy for when i smurf on accounts below d4 since the players there all have egos for no reason

ive never seen so many people so confidently say incorrect things

[floral mauve]

What are they saying

[maiden obsidian]

why do you need to play casually and climb
this is oxymoronic

play casually, or climb

what the hell does climbing even do for you if its a smurf rank, it literally means nothing

also you can autopilot in challenger, just be good at the game.

[restive fiber]

because sometimes you want to play seriously and sometimes ur tired or not in the mood?

every player on earth plays better while thinking as opposed to autopiloting

[restive fiber]

moronic takes like this is why i have no problem with ruining low elo games yall dont deserve my sympathy fr

[restive fiber]

id say ~80% of the things i see typed in plat or below games are just straight up wrong

not exactly shocking because slow brain activity is a very big contributor to why they're stuck in low elo to begin with

but you'd think that if you didn't know anything about something you wouldn't be so confident in being incorrect

[maiden obsidian]

What's your peak rank

[upper drift]

Play a norm then you defective mozzarella stick

[spring depot]

When you have to play with friends who are way worse and dragging them into your mmr will ruin the fun of everyone involved

[misty bone]

smurfing is a W

[full pollen]

smurfing is a W

Nothing spikes my dopamine levels as much as a bronze player that is crying when I'm treating him like a practice tool dummy

[upper drift]

What, because you didn't deserve your rank and cried like a baby when you get shit on by players your own rank?

That's just cope imo

[dusty dove]

lol from where did you derive this completely baseless insane psychoanalysis

that doesnt follow at all

[upper drift]

It follows if you can read

[dusty dove]

no it doesnt

ur suggesting anyone who seeks dopamine or ego boosts is compensating

[upper drift]

That's.. literally what an ego boost is 💀

[dusty dove]

no it is not lol

most anyone appreciates praise for ex

that is an ego boost

are they all just coping

[misty bone]

cope

smurfing is a W

all the low elo players here who have said L are coping ngl

[sweet ember]

can someone whos bronze smurf in iron elo

in theory

?

[upper drift]

This mf the type of guy to unironically enjoy morbius

[misty bone]

?

what XD

[solid laurel]

LMFAO

[smoky granite]

Yes

[maiden obsidian]

it's an L to admit that LP is so hard for you to get that you can't afford to lose any on main

"oh i cant climb if im not gigasweat"
how is this not L

calling other people cope with that shit

🪞

[misty bone]

idc to lose lp on main, rather just learn shit in a lower elo and still playing for LP ¯_(ツ)_/¯

most of the time ill get back to my regular elo anyways

plus, smurf queue exists which a a majority of alt accounts are in

[maiden obsidian]

seems like learning goes quicker in better environments

[misty bone]

a regular player in say silver, will get a smurf like 1/50 games or some shit

[upper drift]

Norms exist

[misty bone]

norms isnt a good place to learn ?

lol

[upper drift]

..yes it is

[misty bone]

it isnt

[upper drift]

You don't first time a champ in ranked

[misty bone]

thats like saying learning smth in a gamemode like urf is a good idea

[upper drift]

Why isn't it, oh wise one?

[misty bone]

?

XD

[dusty dove]

lol

[misty bone]

this is why i bring it to a smurf acc :)

[maiden obsidian]

Norms isnt a good place to learn but divisions below your rank is??

[misty bone]

why would you learn in a gamemode that is 4fun and nobody takes seriously? isnt it better to learn in an environment where its atleast competitive?

[sweet ember]

wait people dont take norms like

seriously?

at least mid seriously

[misty bone]

why would you ever take norms serious lmao

[maiden obsidian]

why would you learn in a bracket where no one punishes your mistakes or knows how to answer your plays

[misty bone]

its the same shit with norms?

[maiden obsidian]

that'

s my point

[misty bone]

atleast when ur smurfing youd be casually ranking up

to where people ARE punishing your mistakes

[maiden obsidian]

what's the point of ranking up if you already have another acc at your actual rank

you literally already have an environment that best teaches you the limitations of your strat

[misty bone]

why would i ever int games at my own rank?? doesn't make sense, like i don't care if i lose LP but im intentionally inting games at that point xd

[maiden obsidian]

you already established you dont give a fuck about ruining games by smurfing

[misty bone]

how would i be ruining games if im playing to win and learn?

plus, you're forgetting smurf queue exists

which again, majority of alts and smurfs are in

[sweet ember]

bruh smurf qs are even here

i thought only dota had them

[maiden obsidian]

so what's the point of smurfing if you're just in smurf q then xd

[misty bone]

??? XD

[dusty dove]

so you dont ruin rank on main?

[misty bone]

it's like you don't read or understand anything im saying

ignoring shit for your own benefit

[maiden obsidian]

sounds like an L to me

[dusty dove]

sounds like youre trolling this conversation

[maiden obsidian]

cope

good players just climb back

it's okay to be bad

[misty bone]

why would you intentionally int ur rank tho

XD

[dusty dove]

why ruin games and cause extra effort on yourself instead of going alt?

[maiden obsidian]

so you can have fun learning something new?

[dusty dove]

you can do that also by going next acct

[maiden obsidian]

seems contradictory to say you don't want to ruin games by causing matchmaking imbalance, but also are doing something explicitly with the goal of matching against worse opponents

[dusty dove]

how does that cause matchmaking imbalance if you play worse since youre learning a champ or role? lol

maybe for the first few games on the acct

but thats not the purpose

[smoky granite]

@upper drift Norms isn't good, because the mentality most people go into play in norms isn't to win. But to have fun or try out off meta things, etc.

[misty bone]

yep

💀

[maiden obsidian]

who cares if people in low ranks are trying if they dont know wtf theyre doing

if your argument is genuinely solely "i dont want to lose my mains LP", you would make one extra "4fun" account and play on that for whatever new things you want to try. but people don't do that, they keep getting new accounts once their new accounts rank up. because the point is they just want to pub stomp.

[dusty dove]

people do this lol

[maiden obsidian]

most dont

and at that point its hardly even a smurf

[dusty dove]

if it ranks up to around your peak then it loses the purpose of playing in a lower elo so as to be able to practice without ruining games

[maiden obsidian]

?
if you climbed to that elo, it's because you're winning with it

ergo its not ruining games

[upper drift]

at this point lets just accept that all smurfs are boosted and move on

[dusty dove]

yes but then what if you want to practice something new

[dusty dove]

how does smurfing = boosted

[upper drift]

how does smurfing = w

[misty bone]

this comment makes 0 sense lmfao

ur logic is stupid

[upper drift]

yikes someone bruised your ego huh

[dusty dove]

never said this just asking about your claim

[misty bone]

didn't hurt my ego at all? lmfao

the logic just doesn't make sense

at all

[upper drift]

thats why i said "someone", if you can read

[misty bone]

????

avoiding it huh

realized ur comment made 0 sense so you're refusing to elaborate or talk about it

[upper drift]

it doesnt need to make sense to ego players, what dont you understand about that

[misty bone]

proving my point even more that you realized you made a dumb comment

and that you refuse to elaborate on it because you realized it was a dumb comment

[upper drift]

its alright im sure you still have a lot of copium left

[misty bone]

ok bro xD

[smoky granite]

Maybe you don't find that there is a difference between norms and ranked, but most of us do

Sure ranked players don't know what they are doing, but it's still a better practice environment than norms

The gamemode where running it down is legal and playing Soraka jungle is the norm

This is evident when you see tier lists of meta picks in ranked vs norms

Where Lux Yone and Malzahar all have much higher winrates compared to their ranked winrate

Just to name a few

[glacial magnet]

“I’m just testing the pick bro, leave me alone”

[orchid nacelle]

no problem with it

[glacial magnet]

As long as they aren’t smurfing against me I’m fine with it

[misty bone]

again, most of the time smurfs arent in regular games

unless they turbo int, occasionally win, etc

but then thatd just be them ego boosting

[timid horizon]

Yeah if you don’t help you get flamed. If you help they call you toxic/control freak with hero complex. Coaches must have it rough

[timid horizon]

Agreed

[timid horizon]

True that

[restive fiber]

the ridiculous skill gaps in norms make them borderline unplayable i havent played a norm outside of 5 queue in years

[timid horizon]

Who told you that bs? An iron player or something?

[glacial magnet]

In norms people WILL lock in jhin jungle and bard mid

[timid horizon]

Facts

[timid horizon]

Those who can’t reach high rank don’t and that’s the majority of players so yeah I agree. Those who are bad can’t

[restive fiber]

every single challenger+ player no matter how good has smurfs to play casually on or for practice. its completely standard. why do you think every pro player u watch stream has 4 accounts

[timid horizon]

Smurfing = boosted? I’m confused. So me going on alt acc and reaching my main elo is me getting boosted?

[restive fiber]

i swear bro low elos dont deserve rights

[timid horizon]

Ayo that’s me, kennen jgl

[glacial magnet]

I play Elise support

[restive fiber]

even if ur able to maintain chally on autopilot (most chally players cannot) you will still use a smurf because you can peak higher lp if you save your main for when you know you will play well

[noble fjord]

Im nothing special, just an average d3 player, but i really like playing to relax in gold and below to take a break from sweaty diamond games where everyone is tryharding and on the same level as me, and thats why i boost my trash friends' accounts for free. Now theoretically its immoral to fuck someones game for your own pleasure but as the other guy said low elo players dont deserve shit because they are shit.

[restive fiber]

theres a reason every high elo player does it its literally just common sense trust me i have no interest in watching brainless rats run in circles

[timid horizon]

Same, watched the vid and holy shit is it strong

[timid horizon]

I sympathise with some but the rest are just.. interesting to say the least

[restive fiber]

you arent even fucking anyones game because if ur using an account to autopilot you will maintain the rating that you deserve while autopiloting

and smurf queue is so aggresive even non-smurfs are flagged by it. smurfing is a complete non issue in 2022 and anyone that complains about smurfing is a monkey

[glacial magnet]

I played it because I like Elise but don’t like jungle, and in theory sounds decent, she’s got good kill set up and she can easily roam because she’s a jungler, and even tho your a support you can still one shot an adc with full combo

[timid horizon]

There’s this guy playing it in GM, massive winstreaks, let me find the name

[restive fiber]

the biggest issues with ranking rn is boosting, not smurfing. and the most commonly seen way of boosting is duoq boosting because for some reason its allowed. so when low elo players see a player going 20-0 every game they think its a smurfing problem when really its a boosting problem

[glacial magnet]

Damn, I’m not taking it into ranked too, not yet, I need to fine tune it for ranked like I do with all characters

I use norms for learning

Ranked for perfecting

[timid horizon]

Yeah this is very true, seen that happen to people I know too

[noble fjord]

Well they also see my match history of 20 Yi games with 30/0 scores every game, but im not duo queuing, then the owner of the acc logs in 'plays' gp runs it down and they lose the lp i gained

And it goes on and on

[timid horizon]

This silver 4 guy who claimed to have climbed to gold 1 by himself in a week after being stuck s4 for months. Turns out he was duo with someone who’d go 28/1 every game

[restive fiber]

if someone sees the op.gg of a player thats hardstuck and going 30/0 every game and they come to the conclusion that "smurfing" is the problem i swear to god they must iron their brain smooth every day

[timid horizon]

And he still claimed he wasn’t duo. He casually played 20 games with the same person and that person had 95% wr overall

[timid horizon]

Man this is rough, same thing I go 18/1 in jgl then owner hops in and goes 0/13

[noble fjord]

Ya feels kinda cringe but i prefer it that way because i need a low elo acc to play on, if only i played it would go to diamond eventually

[glacial magnet]

I feel like a complete booster playing tristana with my friend then carrying

[noble fjord]

Smurfing isnt a problem, plain and simple. Trash players need to get better if they want to escape that shithole, that is all

[restive fiber]

what ur describing isnt smurfing its boosting

and boosting is absolutely problematic

not that id feel any sympathy for them because fuck em but its still problematic

[noble fjord]

Yes well i got 10 accounts to plat so

Plat 4 players stay there anyway

Like plat 4 is so full of hardstucks

Its insane

Most hardstuck division

I swear

[restive fiber]

its all fun and games until u queue ad in d4 and ur support has a full match history with a smurfing talon otp and has no hands

[noble fjord]

D4 which is usually where i am is the most cancerous division

For sure

[restive fiber]

smurfing is a non issue but boosting is a double issue the games get fucked on the way up and they get fucked on the way back down too

[noble fjord]

Smurfs in duo queue, dravens kog maws talons vaynes, then players who play to not decay and dont give a fuck and 2000 game singed players

That is d4

[timid horizon]

Clown world lads. It is what it is

[glacial magnet]

Imagine not being bronze

[timid horizon]

Not even that, imagine being bronze and being mad there’s better players out there

I was like that too 6 years ago, so I sympathise as I said above

Like they complain so much about smurfing when in reality, actual high elo smurfs aren’t playing in their games, even silver-gold “smurfs” aren’t playing in their games. They are mad other bronze players are better and this hurts my brain

[glacial magnet]

I don’t think I’ve faced a Smurf yet

In alll honestly I probably look like the smurf

My trist is inflated in wr and kda

[noble fjord]

[glacial magnet]

Not to blow my balloon but my tristana smacks low elo

[noble fjord]

Dont worry we can arrange to have your balloon blown anyway

[glacial magnet]

I bet you guys will

[noble fjord]

If you get my balloon blown ill blow yours

[somber rampart]

Bit of an extreme take maybe lmao

Feeding an ego? Sure

But I also Smurf to play with friends as well as just have fun stomping people

[orchid nacelle]

I don't like smurfing but I understand the need to smurf if someone wants to play with their lower-ranked friend/s

[timid horizon]

Noice that’s the right mental to have, head high king

[timid horizon]

Kinda sus ngl

[timid horizon]

Yep, in my case, my irl friends range from iron - silver. So not much of an option, when they want to play I change acc and play for fun

[noble fjord]

Nah just ur imagination

[timid horizon]

I am a man of god 🙏

[noble fjord]

This feels both good and annoying, mine are bronze to gold with the exception of a plat guy

[somber rampart]

I can say it’s because I wanna play with friends as much as I want but in reality a lot of it is just cuz it’s too draining to keep playing in high diamond or low masters all the time

Don’t give a monkey really tho

[noble fjord]

Same

Except for me its mentally draining playing in low diamond

[timid horizon]

Yeah same, one reason why I started it was friends. But I, just like you, feel that playing in my elo constantly, although enjoyable, gets very draining. Sometimes I want to play and chill

[misty bone]

nah man they won't say shit because they themselves know they made a dumb fuck comment

[upper drift]

If I really need to explain myself, you were boosted on your main account and you can't keep it there, so you smurf back in bronze just to keep your main intact

[smoky granite]

If you want to coach, then coach. Typing what to do mid game is basically a shittier version of live coaching. Not that live coaching is good to begin with.

[timid horizon]

You really think smurfs are playing in bronze?

[timid horizon]

To each their own I guess

[orchid nacelle]

Penis

[misty bone]

this has 0 logic behind it, it is literally just you coping

[upper drift]

Says the one coping

[misty bone]

what am i coping over? XD

[upper drift]

Over people bruising your ego

Look we get it, you're not loved

[misty bone]

who is bruising my ego? and how? XD

not my fault you cant climb so you resort to blaming it on the non existent smurfs in ur games 💀

[timid horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-he-is-already-dead-stop-gif-5552043

[upper drift]

"Why yes I do think I'm better than everyone else due to my superiority complex, how could you tell"

[upper drift]

Dude sent a gif to attempt to prove a point, that's a huge yikes 😬

[misty bone]

???? what does that have to do with anything we're talking about lol, you're literally just coping you've lost ranked games because a so called smurf, btw prob a pisslow hardstucker shitting on you because of a good game, beat you

[upper drift]

Ohhhh so you're basing your argument on me playing ranked?

I don't even play ranked 💀 💀

[misty bone]

so then why do you care about smurfs

lol

??

[upper drift]

Because it's a stupid concept

[misty bone]

no it isnt

[upper drift]

I said it is so it is

[misty bone]

1. it allows for high elo players, ppl in challenger, gm etc to get shorter queues
2. it allows for high elo players to learn smth new in a still competitive environment but lower elo
3. it allows for people to play with friends who are in a lower elo

[upper drift]

I'll repeat myself: norms exist

[misty bone]

go read this

and maybe your tiny little brain will understand why norms is dogshit to practice picks in

its not even in depth on why norms is worse than ranked to practice in LOL

[upper drift]

From what all of you who allegedly know what you're talking about have said, low elo ranked players are the same

[misty bone]

still shows a huge part of why its shit tho

[timid horizon]

You are proving the point by yourself really, I'm just enjoying the show

[upper drift]

The fact you keep coming back to it proves you just want attention

[timid horizon]

you are the one looking for attention, we've all made our points clear and you keep replying to them. It happens man, don't worry

🙂

[upper drift]

Oh so what you're telling me is to avoid idiots pinging me to argue? I get it, thanks for the advice pal

[timid horizon]

you're the one pinging people

🙂

[misty bone]

💀

love how hes calling us idiots when hes provided 0 evidence

[timid horizon]

I got pinged, and came to answer

🙂

[misty bone]

on why smurfing is shit

[timid horizon]

man doesn't play ranked, not even sure why he's talking in here

[misty bone]

idk

hes calling us boosted, elo inflated, saying we have a superiority complex

but has literally said nothing to why smurfing is bad

XD

[timid horizon]

he probably tried once years back, couldn't get out of bronze 5 and decided to stick to norms. calling people boosted for hitting their ranks on other accounts too

mental gymnastics are insane

[misty bone]

"smurfing is bad, smurfing means you're boosted and scared to lose your rank >:( i dont play ranked tho"

[upper drift]

Are you done coping, can I go back to playing now?

[misty bone]

we're coping for sure

stfu LOL

[timid horizon]

xDDDDD

[upper drift]

"oh no someone said smurfing is bad I must defend my honour :(((("

[timid horizon]

pings me because he wants to talk then gets annoyed when I reply back

[misty bone]

def what it is, still waiting for you to tell me why smurfing is so bad

but you wont, i know you wont

youll go back to the kindergarten response of "cope" or some shit

[glacial magnet]

bronze 5 :troll:

[timid horizon]

someone of no relevance whatsoever is trying to talk on a point he knows quite literally nothing about, statiscally speaking.

[misty bone]

you have nothing else to say

nothing of use

[upper drift]

Kind of already have but go off

[misty bone]

oh? do show

:)

[upper drift]

You'd know if you were paying any attention whatsoever yesterday

[misty bone]

i mean, surely it isnt the "if you're smurfing your scared to lose you rank" or the "if you're smurfing your boosted"

that would just be crazy!

[timid horizon]

I mean, we can't blame him, I complained about smurfs too when I was dogshit at the game, still shit but I don't cope anymore

[misty bone]

HAHHAHAHSAHAHAHAH

[timid horizon]

Once you get off the copium life gets better

[upper drift]

Ykw, both of your noses are stuck so much up the other's asses that neither of you can listen anymore

[misty bone]

what is there to listen to?

youve literally been saying cope

for the past 15 minutes

you have literally said nothing of use

[timid horizon]

He is trying his hardest

do not shatter his beliefs

he doesn't play ranked, he clearly knows more about rank than us

[misty bone]

listen, its ok to be wrong, everyone is wrong once and a while, but i think its better use of your time to stop saying shit like cope and making up weird ass things like "smurfs are boosted" or whatever the fuck you said. literally just admit ur wrong and move on, its not hard to do

no reason to drag it on when ur clearly in the wrong

[upper drift]

Ykw

Sure

This literally because an argument of pride for me 💀

Sorry both of you

[timid horizon]

I don't understand what that means

but hey, sure

[upper drift]

Arguing for the sake of trying to keep my pride intact

[misty bone]

i mean there was no pride to have in this argument, but alright

[timid horizon]

like pretty sure even bronze players disagree with you so definitely not a pride thing

[misty bone]

atleast you admit you were wrong, 1 step in the right direction :)

[timid horizon]

true that

improvements have been made

[upper drift]

Yeah, welcome to part 19482010 of me getting way too involved in something and not being able to get out

[marble eagle]

fax

[west bramble]

Reality is if you're smurfing you're scared to play at your own level yes

[orchid nacelle]

that’s not the only reason people smurf

[misty bone]

just isnt true at all

there are some small cases where that is what is happening, but a majority of the time thats just false 💀

[royal ice]

in my opinion smurfing is fine, it has a lot of positives and also negatives.
For the ppl in their rank vs smurfs, it helps them know they are not as good as they think it helps keep egos in check, but it might have a negative impact on some ppl, and every1 smurfs expect iron and bronze players

[upper drift]

hadnt thought about that tbf

[solid laurel]

someone talking about using “smurf accs to learn a new champ” then that’s not a smurf that’s an “alt” 👨‍🦯
a smurf is an alt but an alt is not a smurf

smurfs are ego boosts but alts are not

idk why people solely make an account to play vs ppl that are lower ranks

[orchid nacelle]

bro shush

[solid laurel]

no

[orchid nacelle]

that is a smurf

stop tryna sound smart

[solid laurel]

?

you know what I’m saying lmao

like you hit dia on vlad? but u wanna learn xerath that’s a seperate account and that’s not smurfing

if ur making another account just to play vlad in lower ranks that’s smurfing

[orchid nacelle]

i mean you are still playing with low ranked players

[solid laurel]

no shit

but ur xerath won’t be dia level like ur vlad

[orchid nacelle]

so it’s smurfing

[solid laurel]

and atp ur starting over and learning a new champ

[orchid nacelle]

you don’t make sense

[solid laurel]

it’s not hard to understand lol

[solid laurel]

you hit masters playing support but u decide to want to play irelia
are you a masters irelia player?

no

[orchid nacelle]

its not that i don’t understand

you are just saying false things

[solid laurel]

what’s false

[orchid nacelle]

yeah ofc not

what is your point

[solid laurel]

saw some dude talking about making a Smurf to learn a new champ

that’s not a Smurf

that’s an alt

[orchid nacelle]

so why you talking about master

also

[solid laurel]

?

if he’s a masters support player

and he wants to learn irelia

he makes an alt because he is new to irelia
bro can’t smurf on a champ they don’t play

[orchid nacelle]

a smurf is someone who makes a new account to test champs or play in low elo

itd be better to test in low elo so it’s smurfing

[solid laurel]

I’m just nit picking words here but testing =/= learning

[orchid nacelle]

no one said that

[solid laurel]

yea so a smurf tests
and alt learns
I only see a smurf as someone who knows what they’re doing and uses another account to just stomp on lower ranks for fun

[misty bone]

an alt and smurf are practically the same thing 💀

no reason to switch up words

[solid laurel]

my first account was hardstuck p4
i made a new account and that’s d2

is that an alt or a smurf

[misty bone]

smurf

[orchid nacelle]

he’s trying so hard to be different

[solid laurel]

no I’m bored and just want to argue

[orchid nacelle]

so you’re wrong

[misty bone]

just cause it got higher elo doesn't make it any different to a smurf

it's still a smurf

xd

[solid laurel]

[orchid nacelle]

smurfing is a terrible practice and people should stop...play in your own elos

[misty bone]

xD L take

[upper drift]

he just like me fr!!!!!!!

[brazen karma]

There is nothing wrong with smurfing, it's a blessing for everyone who wants to learn

on both teams

they can see how someone plays, what decisions they make and how that impacted the game

allowing them to win

but most people in low to mid elo (up to d3-2) just play with intetion to climb, but they keep making the same mistakes over and over again

because they don't learn

[cunning arch]

It's entirely dependent on the purpose of the account.

there's nothing more to really add.

[brazen karma]

whether they want to stomp people below them or just practice new picks, it's still a great opportunity
for everyone in that game to learn or just see how much they need to improve to achieve xx elo

[cunning arch]

the first part isnt good. the rest is fine.

if the account is there to make a 80-90% wr account it wont teach a player much if anything.

[full pollen]

Smurfing is a W
I'm 27 years old and I signed up for a karate class with all 12 year olds. I Smurf in league and real life.

[misty bone]

W take

based af

[twin current]

smurfing is W

[latent gazelle]

ur kidding right

[latent gazelle]

HUH

nahh nah nah this is the type of toxic mindset some players have

be greatful for experiencing the gameplay of better players??? in bronze?? LOL

imagine someone trying to leave bronze and 50% of the games there is a smurf who will 100% snowball those games

[twin current]

the only smurfs playing in bronze are people who are like gold or silver at most and at that point they are barely smurfing

[latent gazelle]

it is still smurfing trust me xd

the team mates i get 60-70% of the games will look like he's a plat or diamond player

[twin current]

if they are actually plat or diamond tho they leave bronze mmr in like 4 games

so the chances of them being in bronze matches is so ridiculously low

unless they are intentionally griefing to get there which is not a lot of people

[smoky granite]

1 out of every 50 games will you be getting smurfs
Smurfs are not the reason why you are stuck

[latent gazelle]

yes but the point is the games they ruin for some of us that dont belong in bronze and are about to reach silver

[smoky granite]

You are stuck because you suck

[twin current]

if you don't belong in bronze you will leave very quickly

smurfs will not stop you lmao

[latent gazelle]

it doesnt even have to be a huge smurf usually it's the matchmaking, they put better enemies against ur allies and game is an absolute coinflip

[twin current]

if ur a better player its not a coinflip though

[latent gazelle]

it isnt

?

it is specially when im playing nunu

[twin current]

nunu is so high impact lol what

if ur coinflipping nunu games in bronze thats on u

[latent gazelle]

wait let me finish his game and i will explain

[smoky granite]

If matchmaking is matching you against players that are better than you

Then Riot thinks you are good enough for them

And if you win those games, you will have a massive spike in mmr

[hollow island]

smurfing is the opposite of buying an acc and loosing every game urself, ur not meant to be there and u distub the balance, pretty much for hardstuck plats-master that wanna stomp broncies

[timid horizon]

50% of the games? You do realise, smurfs in that elo are not that common right?

[timid horizon]

Exactly

[timid horizon]

2 games, a p4 stuck friend made a new acc and got silver in his first 2 placement games

[glacial magnet]

I only really see like maybe one guy that’s kinda smurfing but they aren’t even like 30/1 unstoppable god, usually just like 7/4

[timid horizon]

Most smurfs insta go in smurfQ. “Smurfs” you might see in low bronze games aren’t even to be considered smurfs, they are quite literally of the same skill level

[jagged flame]

If smurfing means playing with new friends it’s fine cause you’re helping them learn get better faster than when solo queueing

[winged dock]

smurfing is fun when im just stomping noobs in norms

but then there are the smurfs that just int in ranked

and those are the worst league players

also if im playing with a friend i just introduced to league its good to not have them be stomped by people my mmr

[swift turtle]

The only people who seem to have a genuine bitter distaste with smurfing are people who:
-Have no idea what its like to be in queue for 15-25 minutes
-Watching your top laner get first blooded at lv3 and going afk then opening mid
-Nonstop dodges in champ select
-Being unable to duo
-Playing 1/5 of your games as wintrades (after you went through 4 lobby dodges with 15-25 minutes in queue time)

Believe me, there's nothing fun about super mario goomba stomping noobs in norms, plat or low diamond. But its better than those conditions above

[twin current]

true, u win like 2-3 games in a row and ur instantly sent into hell with "CANC3RK4SSLOW" and "MENTALONX35"

[winged dock]

yeah, i think people mainly dislike smurfs who jsut make alts to int and be assholes on

[swift turtle]

Is it unfair? likely yes, are you likely to actually learn something from the game rather than playing against someone who is trying to figure out where their cursor is half of the game, also likely yes. And most smurfs are actually very nice and friendly to lower-elo players and highly likely to add you back and give you feedback

[swift turtle]

That's facts though, or the classic "Her ADC" and "His Support" draven soraka duo

[timid horizon]

Disgusting, saw this exact one a week ago

[twin current]

🤮

i haven't seen one of those in a while

[orchid nacelle]

A thing to note is that often with anything, the negative experiences vastly outweigh the positive ones as far as what people hold onto and remember. I'd go well out on a limb to say there's large enough amount of people causing negative experiences as smurfs to tarnish any positive experience one could hope to have.

[swift turtle]

Just running kids the fuck down, going 15-0 in lane, then they die while being 15-0 at 8 minutes and just go afk

[swift turtle]

The problem with this is people always remember the negative experiences heavily more than the positive. You could win $300, but the moment you lose $200 you will stop doing whatever activity you were participating in, you don't care that you made $100. You're just going to be pressed about the negative that comes with the positive.

[orchid nacelle]

The smurf that didn't say anything but inted/carried < the smurf that talked shit, afk'd.

[jagged flame]

Nasty I had some plat player boost their duo and they were like “Omg look at my husband” whenever he got a kill

Weird

[swift turtle]

If you play RANKED, you are probably playing RANKED to get BETTER, because there's no other way to increase your RANKED RANKING. And you won't get better by playing against people who are playing lockscreen, zoomed in and trying to find their cursor as if they're playing finding waldo from some coloring book from 2001

[twin current]

tbf i haven't played in smurf queue in quite a while so idk how it is these days

closest thing i get is people being boosted which is surprisingly common

[orchid nacelle]

I don't think you get better playing vs a smurf when the disparity in gameplay is so vast.

[twin current]

yeah depends how big the skillgap is

ideal amount for improvement is slightly better but not too much

otherwise u don't get to interact enough to learn

[orchid nacelle]

When the skill gap is wide, you're not learning anything from getting wafflestomped.

[swift turtle]

That's true, but most smurfs are platinum players. And unless you're iron (There are less iron 4 players than challenger plays I believe) then Platinum does not fall too far from the rest of the ranks.

[timid horizon]

A full rank up is okay I suppose. Like gold4 - plat4. Maybe plat 2 as a stretch

[twin current]

rank up to plat after 1000 games > cant leave > make smurf > smurf hits plat > repeat

[swift turtle]

Even if you are silver against a platinum player, you will always learn something, that is not an absolutely overwhelming difference

[twin current]

forgot the last step of > never improve because you dont actually play in plat

[orchid nacelle]

Depends how hard you lose tbh

[timid horizon]

Nvm actually idk, I think there’s more Iron 4s in individual servers, haven’t seen stats

[vale mulch]

Most smurfs would give you feedback if you ask. However most gold-plat egos are so big then can’t accept going 0-8 in lane to a smurf

[orchid nacelle]

Lose hard enough, the only thing you learned is that you should have alt tabbed 10 minutes ago

and watched youtube

mentally eject

[timid horizon]

This

[twin current]

i'd say plat can be one of the harder elos to get out of when u first get there because people start to have some semblance of macro and micro

lots plateau there

[timid horizon]

If someone genuinely wants to improve they’ll go back, watch vod and emulate

[twin current]

which leads to them smurfing

[timid horizon]

Sadly most players don’t, ego too big to copy others

[orchid nacelle]

That's basically what I mean. When you take a hard L, especially vs a smurf, a vast majority of players I'd assume would just go "bad game, unlucky they're a smurf" and move on.

[twin current]

i dont copy better players i watch my own vods and copy myself 💪

[timid horizon]

BASED

[orchid nacelle]

vs the experience when the game was a close win

[swift turtle]

The only difference between a platinum and a silver player is a platinum player can consistently farm even in unfavorable matchups. They know when to recall, they ward far more often and they have higher champion mastery. And that is all. If a player who is equipped with those advantages over you is destroying you so hard that you just wish you alt F4'd then you have a completely different problem and it has nothing to do with smurfing

And this isn't from opinion, this is from being GM in two roles and having coached players for 3+ years along with winning four leagues as a team coach

That is literally the difference between a silver and a platinum player

[orchid nacelle]

That's the thing though, I would be willing to bet, a vast majority of the playerbase isn't looking to sincerely improve. They want to shit on someone, and get some substance (LP) out of it.

[swift turtle]

The smurfs who are shitting on you so hard you wish you were alt F4ing are masters and D1 players which make up 1% of the playerbase. Then you have to consider that maybe only half of them smurf. 0.5% of the playerbase isn't ruining the ranked experience for 75% of the server population

[glacial magnet]

That’s me

[orchid nacelle]

"ruining" isn't the word I'd use

"tarnished rep"

might be better

[swift turtle]

Even if that's the case, if someone shit on you so hard you want to afk, it was someone who falls into a 0.5% population percentile

Everyone else won't shit on you so hard that you can't learn anything

And as long as you're not getting absolutely obliterated in every aspect of the game, then there's something to learn

[orchid nacelle]

but I'd disagree otherwise, I think those experience do add the culmination of the anti-smurf idea. Especially when those feelings are probably felt by like you said 75% of the pop.

Hive mind don't work all the great towards rationale

[solid laurel]

not rlly sure if this is relevant but a smurf doesn’t only effect one person
it also impacts the other 8 people both of y’all r playing with so it might be why an amount feels impacted by it

[swift turtle]

Here's the truth

If you're in iron that's wild because I have tried tanking games to end up in Iron and it is literally too hard to do that. I naturally climb back to bronze no matter what.
If you run into smurfs in bronze that's unfortunate, but you're also in bronze so that's entirely a separate problem you should worry about
If you run into smurfs in silver, those smurfs are likely plat and gold
If you run into smurfs in gold, they are likely platinum
If you run into smurfs in platinum, they're likely D3/D4
Nobody in diamond 3 - GM complains about getting smurfed on

The point is that no matter what elo you're in, either:

1. You're in an elo that doesn't even make sense
2. You're 1-2 ranks at most outranked by the smurf and you can easily take away from that game to improve to a rarity pull an upset
3. You're ranking without the intention of playing seriously so you will NEVER view it as a positive experience or learning lesson, and you're already doing a disservice to your ranked teammates by playing in a serious game mode with no intentions to improve or play seriously, play norms or ARAMs instead

[orchid nacelle]

That's the thing though, could versus should. These takes are kinda based on the absolute train of thought that everyone going into ranked is trying to get better

That's just not the case.

[swift turtle]

A huge issue in league is there's no more space to be competitive, everything is 4fun. Wanting to and be competitive win in a game mode that puts you on a ladder is now labeled as toxic. Everything has become a 4fun space.

Well you shouldn't be going into ranked if you're not trying to get better. Its called Ranked not Casual or Normals, we already have a game mode for that.

[orchid nacelle]

You're right, but you're not gonna change that

[swift turtle]

Infact, most of the negative experiences people have in ranked is not smurfing, rather its incompetent teammates who are throwing teh game and not playing seriously.

I completely forgot about that and i'm glad you reminded me lmao

[orchid nacelle]

Even if what you're saying is true, it doesn't mean it's what's real

yk

[swift turtle]

If you really want to approach why people tilt in ranked, stop playing ranked, give up, quit the game I promise you its people playing ranked with intentions to not play seriously and throw, do whatever they want and lose

No, what i'm saying is true. Its not realistic either to expect those changes to go through

But its a shame we're just accepting bringing 4fun and troll behavior/culture into ranked and allowing it when there's a whole separate game mode for that dumb shit

[orchid nacelle]

I don't think it's "accepting"

[solid laurel]

was gonna say

it just happens often but not often enough for ppl to feel 👺 about it

[orchid nacelle]

League's just kinda evolved into "win game - gimmie lp", not "win game - get better"

[solid laurel]

so true

duo boosting 🗿

[orchid nacelle]

So when a smurf takes their LP, they're not thinking about "oh damn, he froze the lane at lvl 2 to set up for a gank for an easy kill to set the lane up".

The take away is

"the fucker got an early gank and won bc my jungler didn't gank first 👺 "

[swift turtle]

LMAO

I agree

That falls on the hands of the individual though

[solid laurel]

i feel like smurfing isn’t rlly recognizable like that until gold/plat

where ppl might take the game more seriously

[swift turtle]

Self accountability needs to play a role and step in. I won't join a competitive match and then get angry when the enemy team does what they need to do to win

I can be an idiot about it or I can look at it for what it is

If i'm not trying to look at it that way, then why am I in ranked to begin with

I'm already fucking everything up by being in a ranked lobby and not looking for things like that. Education in this game is OVERSATURATED, you can learn in todays day off of 2 hours worth of youtube videos everything a challenger player knew 3 years ago

There's no excuse, its a bunch of normies and casuals getting mad over tragedies in ranked which is a competitive game mode where the goal is to win

[orchid nacelle]

I don't think the average bronze-silver player

is good enough to be looking up guides

[swift turtle]

????

Looking up guides has nothing to do with your game knowledge, it has everything to do with your real world desire to improve

[orchid nacelle]

That's what I mean

[swift turtle]

If you don't even intend on improving then why are you even ranking in the first palce

[orchid nacelle]

We're going back to what the average player consists of

Which is not someone who wants to improve lol

[solid laurel]

i mean if they looked up guides I don’t think they would be bronze/silver

^

[swift turtle]

I agree @solid laurel

[solid laurel]

my friends who are bronze/silver are casual players who play with the intent to have fun over wanting to rank

[swift turtle]

My point is if you even look up two hours of guides + the experience of leveling up to 30, you will be gold

[solid laurel]

and we usually just norms anyways so it’s not like ranking is something they want to do

and lecturing/giving tips kinda kills the mood

[orchid nacelle]

That's why I'm saying bronze/silver, if you're looking up a guide and taking anything out of it

you're automatically gold/plat

[swift turtle]

Exactly

[solid laurel]

ya

[swift turtle]

And if you're gold/plat then EVERY GAME is a learning experience

[orchid nacelle]

Every game SHOULD be a learning experience

[swift turtle]

And at that point if you're still complaining about that issue its just because you're mad you couldn't beat the crap out of some bad players and get your ego boost and self validation of the day

[solid laurel]

gold/plat is learning to use the mute button 👨‍🦯

[orchid nacelle]

nah, i think it's looking at the map and reading pings

[swift turtle]

And whether you are playing casually/4fun or competitively, your ego should not be in the game regardless

[orchid nacelle]

the diff between silver and gold is literally the acknowledgement of the mini map

[solid laurel]

I’m half joking with what I’m saying lol

ur right

[swift turtle]

I feel like its just champion mastery

You should see what platinum soloQ is

[orchid nacelle]

I've played the elo for so long

[swift turtle]

Tons of people not reacting to pings, not realizing there are wards

[solid laurel]

it is

[orchid nacelle]

sadly

it's the mini map

[swift turtle]

90% of the people I have met in my entire 10 years playing league who are in platinum

Don't know what the minimap is

AFK mid laners

Top laners who die to every game

every gank*

[solid laurel]

LOL

warding issues

afk mid laners make me sick though

[orchid nacelle]

it might have changed, honestly, i feel like the skill level in the game has watered down

between the ranks

[solid laurel]

there’s a reason why

[orchid nacelle]

through the years

[solid laurel]

removing those promotion games for ranks

[orchid nacelle]

no more 5 divisions, promos, and adding more ranks

[swift turtle]

Silver = Everything lol go look up a guide
Gold = Champion Mastery
Platinum = BASIC Wave control
Diamond = Map Awareness, Knowledge over other roles and applying it to your role & learning how to recall without missing CS/roam without missing CS

And masters is gold-diamond, but do it all over again and get better at it, repeat this over and over

[solid laurel]

is this like what’s learned between each rank

or like what gets u to a rank

[swift turtle]

What you learn throughout that rank

And how you get through it

[orchid nacelle]

i feel like a lot of diamond players can't even tell you why they're diamond

some of them just good at games

it hurts

[swift turtle]

That's assuming you get through the ranks in a developmental way, and yeah some people are just good at games

[solid laurel]

also

champs

make a big difference

[winged dock]

mastery is misleading

there will be so many games where the enemy has 5 one tricks and everyone on your team is m4 and you will still win, by virtue of your teams macro or their teams lack of such skills

[twin current]

im somehow dogshit at every aspect of the game but still climbed so

nobody gets excuses

[hollow island]

If ur below platinum at the very least dont worry bout smurfs never

[maiden obsidian]

-Playing 1/5 of your games as wintrades

streamers spread this mental illness like a plague

[eternal lark]

used to think it was shitty and still think its kinda shitty but you don't see them enough to be too pissed off depending on the elo

[misty bone]

you don't see them at all lol

you get 1 smurf out of like every 50 games

if ur in silver

[eternal lark]

^

ye more of a problem in higher elos i think

smurf que helped out alot with filtering them too

[misty bone]

yep

smurf q is still shit, will put an average hardstuck player in there to fill the space

[fresh ridge]

smurf in norms if u want to play with lower ranks to turn your brain off pls <3

[misty bone]

there are explanations here as to why playing norms/smurfing in norms is dogshit

[orchid nacelle]

Beating on silvers fun 👍

[midnight void]

Eh, winning is fun but I’d imagine that would get boring after a while for me. Sounds like a complete waste of time, like at that point you are just seeking the dopamine rush of winning

[noble fjord]

Beating on silvers fun

[slow chasm]

Smurfing wouldnt be so bad if they fixed the queues. Just make people rank up faster if they are smurfs so they dont get stuck playing 50 smurf games "ruining" other games

[royal ice]

Agree

[eternal lark]

one argument I will make for smurfing though is at least they have put the time and effort into climbing high enough to be a smurf anyway, it's almost like a way to "reward" yourself. Sometimes it's fun to see how far you've come by going back to the lower divisions and how much you've learned. Norms it's a lot harder to gauge this because the players there come in different shapes and sizes (dia players could just be first timing champs at a gold-plat level) could be casual players etc. It's almost the thing of smurfing won't be a problem if you just "get good" it's always gonna be frustrating but really if you care about progressing as a player it shouldn't matter as much

[twin current]

As u go higher I usually find that there aren’t really smurfs it’s either people being boosted or people who were permad climbing on new acc

[smoky granite]

Aren't there complaints about there being too many masters compared to previous seasons

[fossil cedar]

you won't be playing in bronze mmr as a smurf for longer than 4-5 games. this is a too little example base you are trying to build a discussion on. in other words, smurfing in this elo as a topic is highkey irellevant and depicts not even 1% of the games in bronze as a bronze player. and you can't understand silver players as smurfs if they are playing in bronze for a few games until they rank up to silver and get settled there based on your argument that "there [are smurfs] who will 100% snowball [...] games" (because those wouldn't be silver players smurfing in bronze, but rather plat+ players, anything below will not "100% snowball" bronze games)

i believe (and that's just an assumption) that you are projecting this topic to be a huge problem in bronze to distract from the fact that you are having some individual problems climbing the ladder. smurfs in bronze legit are not the problem, making an elephant out of an ant. majority of games you can make the difference by not lacking skill

[pastel tree]

smurf so LLLLLLL

[slow chasm]

what does this have anything to do with what i typed

[royal ice]

"you won't be playing in bronze mmr as a smurf "
that is funny coming from u XDDD
well from experience if u duo with hardstucks u avoid smurfq 100%

riot is not letting smurfs climb fast thats a problem

[glacial magnet]

Then I must be a Smurf

[royal ice]

from what i can see u won 68% of ur past 40 games , i think riot should reward that instead of trying to put ppl in losersQ to make every1 50%wr

[misty bone]

duoing will not get you out of smurf q

[royal ice]

i wish i could share u the acc i use, but i cant

[glacial magnet]

Who

[royal ice]

^

[misty bone]

if u wanna get out of smurf queue, which u should never be in unless ur on brand new account, literally just play game more

[glacial magnet]

Wait rlly?

[royal ice]

yeah check op.gg

[glacial magnet]

I mean I’ve seen it but damn, didn’t think it was good

Since I’m not rlly climbing

[misty bone]

ur 54% wr u will climb

[glacial magnet]

Hopefully

[misty bone]

u will

52-55% wr means u climb

[glacial magnet]

I mean I probably could if I just locked in my tristana

But me being a clown I don’t

[misty bone]

i mean i perma locked in random shit

ended up not climbing and got stuck plat

started only locking in vlad and now im d4 66% wr

just lock in who ur good at and u climb like 200 lp

[glacial magnet]

Wait a minute

“The last gnar main” is a vlad main?

[glacial magnet]

Ik that, but I don’t like doing that for some reason, not a fan of one tricking

[misty bone]

im a vlad otp ye, my nickname is cause kaciz who is a gnar main got banned

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691781125097652245/1001649957935267900/IMG_1118.png

[glacial magnet]

Sheesh

My tristana is kinda cracked in the low elo lobbies tho

[misty bone]

its not rlly impressive when u consider the rank but eh

just play trist then

[smoky granite]

If ranking up is easy, then wouldn't we have too many boosted high elo players

[fringe turtle]

They possibly make money from it, can't imagine steamrolling every game in low elo is enjoyable for the passionate player. Got to be a money thing, or a mental health one. Smurfin with friends I can understand though if you only play league for rank then you should get therapy for your addiction :3

[twin current]

tbf there are a lot of boosted high elo players

[full pollen]

enchanter supports are the most boosted players in league of legends

[twin current]

when you have a yuumi one trick filled on your team to jungle

[timid horizon]

^^

I had a yuumi onetrick play leona below 100LP. My dumbass decided not to dodge, biggest regret of my life

[cunning ledge]

I honestly believe anyone who Smurfs just to shit on low ELO players are the actual scum of the earth and arnt loved by their parents

[twin current]

every single time i see a game and think "i should really dodge this" and i don't dodge i regret it.

100% of the time

[slow chasm]

Doesnt mean its easy, just means you should get lp faster if youre smurfing... and once game thinks youre at the rank you are you level out

[twin current]

You do get lp faster when smurfing tbf

You can get 30+ lp a win and skip divisions for a while if u keep winning

[fossil cedar]

@royal ice that's funny coming from me? tell me why
the op guy is literally a bronze player complaining about smurfs. how long are you going to be able to play with a bronze player (duo, to avoid smurf queue) as a smurf? max 10 games after placements you hit gold

[latent gazelle]

delusional

[modern jacinth]

u dont get smurfs below gold unless they bought an account specifically to get high wr

[restive fiber]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

even in plat/diamond u are extremely unlikely to ever see smurfs because of smurf queue

smurfing has been fixed nobody smurfs for ego anymore if you see a smurf its just a booster or someone playing w their friend

i leveled an account last month where i played ultimate bravery with my friends (we lost all of our games) and it was literally bronze stuck mmr when i queued ranked. and even then it still flagged me as a smurf within 3 games and sent my mmr to plat instantly

[latent gazelle]

W or L?

[woven cairn]

its like playing a sport with some kindergarten kids

how boring is that

whoever finds that fun is just feeding their ego to feel good about themselves since they have nothing else in life

sounds rough but thats really about it

[latent gazelle]

W

valid statement

[jovial flicker]

Its a good thing when its 1v5 and not 1v9

[plush cosmos]

i mean, smurfing in general is a bad and good thing, it has its cons and its pros and its not something you can reliably call bad or good due to the impacts on different people. it goes both ways but thats why smurf queue and such exist, unfortunately thats not always reliable.

[glacial magnet]

i understand why people do it but like it can be really annoying bing in low elo and losing LP because a challenger player was bored

[dense heath]

I just don't get why you would want to. It's not satisfying beating people you KNOW you can beat

[glacial magnet]

it is fun being th 1v9 carry just running around dominating everyone and being the main character tbf

[dense heath]

exactly, its fucking boring

[glacial magnet]

but i feel as tho its redundant if your doing it all the time

[woven cairn]

people are just pumping dopamine into their brain by smurfing

its like an addiction

you get that high and then you need to do it more and more

i never smurfed but just how the game is designed it makes sense

it gives people a sense of achievement and a lot of dopamine so thats why they do it

also its an easy source of it

you dont have to work on your skills and tryhard to get the same benefit or reward

[smoky granite]

I smurf when I need to practice something

[orchid nacelle]

i mean,, i see why people do it, for fun, practice etc but it’s annoying when low ranked people lose their points just because an enemy highranker decided to smurf

[dusty dove]

same

[orchid nacelle]

It's for people with small penises

or breasts if they're women

[glacial magnet]

That’s very offensive varricalsoon

[orchid nacelle]

Oh no, it's okay cause my penis is also small and so are my breasts

so I get a pass

[glacial magnet]

Oh ok sirmaam

[frozen torrent]

smurfing is an objective L

its fun to shit on low elo but its bad for the game

[elder rune]

L

[floral mauve]

L

But when making a new acc you have to smurf sadly

But luckily good players will get in smurfQ in about 12-20 games only

[amber flame]

L

but sometimes it can enable you to climb higher in elo

at least in my experience, though I had to use a new account anyway