#vlad is an s tier champion and is underrated

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austere mica
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vlad isn't an S tier champ, not in the slightest, if you think so, you're just delusional

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the fact a 450 gold item can completely counter him, or that he is the lowest ranged mage and gets out ranged by practically everyone should be enough

fervent cairn
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You want a S tier mid laner who is underrated when his laning is one of the best and scales like a monster.

Brand mid

empty acorn
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vlad's okay early game to enable mage and astral but there's better options late game

fervent cairn
soft bough
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better

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Very good early and midgame while scaling

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very good roams

austere mica
soft bough
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very good teamfights

soft bough
fervent cairn
empty acorn
austere mica
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compared to his mid game he kinda falls off lol

austere mica
soft bough
austere mica
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but majority of laners will outrange him

austere mica
empty acorn
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this guy still doesn't realize I'm talking about TFT and not league

austere mica
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and 2-3 items that make him useless

empty acorn
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gottem ig

austere mica
fervent cairn
empty acorn
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I literally said "mage and astral" in my comment lmao

fervent cairn
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This is league serious.

Not tft serious

empty acorn
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There's been about 40 vlad posts this week so I was just trolling

soft bough
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there are like 150+ champs in the game weirdChamp

brittle linden
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nope only 50

austere mica
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2 items make vlad useless late game

soft bough
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doesnt matter if 10 outscale him

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if he outscales at least 120 champs

soft bough
austere mica
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would argue a lot more champs are stronger than him late game

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i just know i can list 10 right off the bat

austere mica
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are 2 for starters

soft bough
austere mica
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yes, vlad especially

soft bough
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As Azir I do no damage vs FoN and MAW users

empty acorn
soft bough
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bro

austere mica
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vlad is burst mage, any burst mage cant kill anyone with maw/fon

soft bough
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he has short colddowns tho

austere mica
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its almost impossible

empty acorn
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how well does magic pen work vs mr

main hawk
soft bough
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imagine playing diana, lissandra or ekko vs FoN and MAW

main hawk
austere mica
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which is why im saying, mid game is strongest, late game he gets weaker

soft bough
austere mica
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which u can see in graph

soft bough
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I have a diamond 1 fiora-vlad toplane twotrick friend and he says both scale similarly well into lategame while having safe lanes and very good midgames

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that means something

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he also says in lategame vlad has very short colddowns so if he cant burst people he can kite them out easily

austere mica
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u can kite most champs, not all

soft bough
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they cant catch him if he uses W correctly

soft bough
austere mica
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ur not gonna kite a yi

soft bough
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most is enough

soft bough
austere mica
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ur not gonna kite a fiora, ur not gonna kite a jax, etc etc

soft bough
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those champs are generally very hard to kite out tho

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not just for vlad

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take for example any mage

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Orianna

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How the hell will you kite out a jax or yi

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I would say vlad is even better at kiting them than MOST mages

austere mica
soft bough
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because of his speed and W

austere mica
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im comparing him to other scaling champs

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not every champ in league

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scaling champ wise, vlad falls off compared to others

soft bough
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like he is top 10% scaling in mages

austere mica
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he isnt gonna outscale veigar or kass

soft bough
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those are exceptions tho

austere mica
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or kayle

soft bough
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Who outscales kayle

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xD

austere mica
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ornn?

soft bough
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those are very bad examples

austere mica
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ornn outscales kayle lol

soft bough
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not always

austere mica
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he does

soft bough
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the problem is

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your examples are literally the best scaling champs

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like veigar, kayle, kassadin

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those are

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at the ceiling

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of scaling

austere mica
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vayne, kayle, karthus, ornn, kindred, veigar, kass, nasus, jax, fiora

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all outscale vlad

soft bough
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Nasus doesnt scale that well like people think

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he can get kited out easily

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fiora doesnt outscale vlad

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its team comp dependant

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but generally no

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maybe only in 1 v 1

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kindred aswell

austere mica
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talking team comp when comparing champs is way too situational

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idk why u would bring team comp

soft bough
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yes but

austere mica
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when comparing how a champ scales

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lol

soft bough
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generally

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because

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they simply do not outscale vlad

austere mica
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yes, and in general a kindred or fiora will outscale a vlad

soft bough
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being able to beat vlad lategame in an 1 v 1

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doesnt mean

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outscaling generally

soft bough
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My diamond 1 vlad-fiora twotrick friend told me they scale similarly good

austere mica
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kindred has the range from her marks, and she can easily kite him out

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fiora has her w, plus shes able to build maw

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she also doesnt allow vlad to run away

soft bough
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as said generally doesnt mean being allow to beat vlad 1 v 1 in lategame

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cuz the game is not 1 v 1 and you will not get kindred or fiora every game as vlad

austere mica
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also, if we're going to talk teamfights, kindred 100% outscales vlad

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simply just because of her r

soft bough
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y thats OP

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but vlad has big blast damage with his own R

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and E

austere mica
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that just becomes dependent on how fed the vlad is and how fast kindred reaction time is

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which isnt, and cant really be a variable

soft bough
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Anyway

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Vlad generally

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still

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scales very good

fiery pulsar
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He doesn’t scale that good

soft bough
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Statistically he does

fiery pulsar
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Loses to malphite

austere mica
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ur comparing a tank to a burst mage

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?? Xd

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vlad will lose to most tanks

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just bc of item diff

fiery pulsar
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Maybe if you build sunfire on vlad

austere mica
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why would u

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ever build sunfire

soft bough
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? xd

austere mica
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on vlad

soft bough
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lol

fiery pulsar
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Burn dmg

austere mica
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???????

fiery pulsar
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And useful stats

austere mica
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it has no useful stats for him outside the 450 health and 20 ability haste lol

soft bough
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armour and mr

fiery pulsar
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Tenacity is useful

austere mica
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sigh

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ur losing

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so much

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from not building NH/Proto

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theres 0 reason

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to

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go sunfire

soft bough
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yes

austere mica
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maybe if vlad was still a battlemage

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it would be good

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but he isnt

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and he hasnt been one

fiery pulsar
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If you get stun locked

austere mica
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for years

fiery pulsar
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And die before you can w

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All the ap in the world will be meaningless

austere mica
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yes, and going sunfire makes any ap useless too

fiery pulsar
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Sunfire you turn into a battle mage

austere mica
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vlad hasnt been

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a battle mage

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in years

fiery pulsar
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Can burn enemies down while invincible

austere mica
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the closest thing we have for battle mage vlad is going riftmaker demonic

fiery pulsar
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Build full tank, and do respectable damage

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Its a drain tank

austere mica
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go into practice tool

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build sunfire

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test full combo

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sell sunfire, build nh/proto and test full combo

fiery pulsar
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Sunfire, sv, tabis, randuins, voidstaff, rylais

austere mica
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see which does more dmg

fiery pulsar
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Unkillable demon build

austere mica
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why would u ever go rylais

fiery pulsar
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Slow with q

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Maybe switch rylais for abyssal mask

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Good synergy with sunfire

austere mica
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abyssal mask has been dogshit since item rework

soft bough
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Secret korean meta vladimir build ?

austere mica
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lol

soft bough
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poggers

fiery pulsar
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The champion is underrated because no one is building him right

fervent cairn
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Don’t buy a mythic just for the ffing stats

fiery pulsar
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Burn dmg

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It helps keep enemies out of melee distance

dusk fulcrum
vapid stratus
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just want to see if people agree or disagree and why

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vlad is an s tier champion and is underrated

left turtle
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I dont rate vladimir

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Its just an overall annoying champs that scales

bitter plank
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underrated yes s tier idk

surreal heron
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he needs so much gold to be useful

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has no prio in lane before hes strong

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enemy mid just walks all over him early basically

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its painful to play with as a jungler

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its only S tier if you are looking at end game only

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otherwise i'd say its around B tier

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not to mention once he uses pool in lane its the freest gank ever

timber veldt
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he loses a decent amount of health for just using it

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and any situation where pool is a valid answer likely has better answers

surreal heron
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vlad is super overrated

timber veldt
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and if he uses pool to avoid gank then just regank him

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its like a flash

main hawk
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@austere mica So many Vlad threads

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It's your time to shine again

tall fulcrum
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I like that he’s underrated, keeps people from playing him

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Not fun to lane against someone that can easily heal and go untargetable that scales like a beast

bitter plank
soft bough
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I would look at that ability on the positive side, its at the same level as Fiora W or yas windwall

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if Fiora uses W in lane ofc she is a lot more gankeable aswell, doesnt mean the ability is weak or fiora isnt OP