#Should Yasuo be nerfed? If yes why so?

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charred cradle
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if he's against like 4 ranged then it creates a polarizing threat range for him

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because he can contest from long range with windwall and can DPS in close range but is kind of sucky at midrange

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and he's sort of meant to be an ADC counter as he's a melee carry who spikes earlier than them anyway

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altho i think windwall should also have collision like anivia wall

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gets very confusing when he can just stand in the middle of it and you can't gauge whether your spell will hit him or not

little meadow
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I think that some points of yasuo should be nerf like his passive, his passive creats a sheild that u poke and can't do much about, and his r i think is fine but i just don't like it when it comes to every single kncok up champ, like ailstar,but that is just my personal belief about yasuo

charred cradle
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like bottom 5 level 1 hp

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and his armor sucks ass too

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so assassins can still burst him down if they get the first strike

quick panther
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ppl just hate yasuo when their team comp sucks

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all u need is to draft some cc and burst him down it really is not that difficult.

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dont spam all of ur abilities into a windwall

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his windwall is annoying but you can play around it, there are many more champions with less counterplay than him who deserve harder nerfs

pale glade
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Yasuo is fine, his interaction with lethal tempo should be removed altogether.

celest stirrup
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if anything he needs a buff

deep pelican
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No

warm girder
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if you walk up to far he just e's at the wave to get to u then e's u when ur almost out of range

plain sluice
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he is a hypercarry scales like an adc

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And he can also come back when behind

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Better than most champs with 1-2 item powerspikes

charred cradle
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just need more reliance as adc compared to yasuo who sololanes

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and often has better neutral in lane

warm girder
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yasuo falls off

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past lane he's not that good unless he has a knockup champ / comp

charred cradle
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if he gets the chance to dps

safe phoenix
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Yasuo have a IE power spike at 2 items when adc have their IE power spike at 3

hollow silo
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I mean I used to complain about yas but I think the state hes in rn is very fair I dable in the champ and play against it and am having fun both ways

granite cloak
slender terrace
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No

plain sluice
frail storm
wicked falcon
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absolutely not. extremely easy to counterplay, extremely high skill ceiling, absolute feast or famine champ. there's a night and day difference between the average yasuo and a GOOD one.

craggy jungle
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not real

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must be an npc

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because thats like saying malzahar passive is op

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💀

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stupid ass

stray lily
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The only dumb things about yas are the small things - R doesn't even need to actually be "aimed" its just a click if anyone is in the range, how his R range is literally like half the fucking map, and how it will place him out of tower range for... some reason

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other than that i dont really have a problem with the champ

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windwall is definitely stupid at times though

charred cradle
warm girder
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normally a good yasuo would knockup into aa eq (q if he can't e them) then r

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at rank 1 his r does more dmg than a q but once he hits 2 items / lvl 11 his q does more than his r so it's mostly a shield/passive reset and the knockup duration for the keyblade or other combos

charred cradle
warm girder
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it's an amazing all in tool

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especially at 6

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yasuo falls off after laning phase because he can't get his ult off

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(if he doesn't have a knockup comp or very fed)

charred cradle
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assassins have way better all in tools than him

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and most mages won't let just let him all in them unless they are oom

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talon won't let yasuo ult him

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zed can ult the tornado q

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qiyana can stun him first before he gets q3

warm girder
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they're all skill matchups

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yasuo vs qi is yasuo favored

charred cradle
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it doesnt change that assassins have a much better spike than him in lane

warm girder
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zed's q is blocked by yasuo's w and yasuo can dodge them easily with e

charred cradle
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because it's a burst assassin vs a melee carry who uses DPS

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yes yasuo can windwall all of these

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but any good assassin player will bait that out first with their poke tools

warm girder
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if zed ever uses w badly yasuo just kills him if he doesn't play safe for the cd

charred cradle
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no shit

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and if yasuo just facetanks WEQ then zed kills him

warm girder
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skill matchup :)

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that ones more even than the other 2

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but overall i think yasuo's in a fine spot atm

charred cradle
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it's a melee carry with distinct strengths and weaknesses

warm girder
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if they nerf yone they nerf him and if they buff him they buff yone

tranquil crane
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rlly never see anything else

warm girder
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well yeah but if he doesn't have a knockup

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he falls off

warm girder
tranquil crane
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ya

marsh carbon
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nah hes like D teir at high elo lol

ebon pebble
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no he is only playable with a zac or a diana and is useless in every other team comp

polar swallow
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Yasuo would be fine imo if you removed win wall and replaced it with something else. What that something else is idk.

celest stirrup
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silly take

muted escarp
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crazy that ppl talk about yasuo when yone exists

celest stirrup
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I'd rather have Yone to be nerfed

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Way easier to play than Yasuo

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More damage

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Champion's just too much to deal with

old tendon
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yasuo is not a problem

polar swallow
safe phoenix
celest stirrup
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yone can be countered so easily

muted escarp
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More easily than yasuo ? I don't agree , overall yone the is better at everything

celest stirrup
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let’s nerf yasuo guys

stark trail
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also fix when he can ult while cc

topaz verge
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Idk but Lethal tempo melee nerf when, its not cool rune at all for melee champs

safe phoenix
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if you know how to take short trade it's kinda useless rune

heady agate
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no not really

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yasuo is kinda bad rn honestly

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the thing about yasuo is that hes broken when he gets ahead, but itseasy to prevent that

slender terrace
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Winning team is whichever team doesn't have Yasuo

plush pumice
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Even if he’s not broken I still late laning against the fucker

safe phoenix
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he got 3 up in a row and durability was benefit for him

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he his good in skilled hand

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that's all

heady agate
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yeah

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he is good if the playercan use him

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or if the enemies dont understand how to handle him

sly shadow
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I just don’t think he’s healthy

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Everything about him is very controversial

plush pumice
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I only hate him cuz trading in lane is so damn impossible with bone plating and passive

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And of course wind wall when I’m a fed adc so I become useless

sly shadow
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Yeah

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He has a lot of cheese as well with airborne follow ups and so much healing when doing it right

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But he can be countered and outplayed if you know how

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I just don’t think it’s healthy for him to be either 20/0 or 0/20 based on the enemies (most of the time)

heady agate
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yeah

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yasuo isnt healthy for the game

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but other champs are way worse in that way

plush pumice
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(Fiora)

celest stirrup
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Qiyana laughs from distance

sly shadow
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Community wise I think he’s worse

plush pumice
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I think the only reason qiyana isn’t as hates is because she takes some level of skill to be good at

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Def hated in high elo

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Tho

slender terrace
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Why not just build anti heal vs Yasuo

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Since he gets second wind and shieldbow

plush pumice
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He usually goes bone plating

celest stirrup
plush pumice
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I mean I imagine perma invis is, with an amazing ult that can easily stun the entire enemy team

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With high dmg

stark trail
plush pumice
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Late game her cooldowns are low enough where 3 seconds of invisibility is enough for her to just WQ again

stark trail
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yeah qiyana i see now

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qiyana just needs to learn the super secret chinese combos that instantly win u the game but they are actually impossible to pull up

plush pumice
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I mean with enough games down her main combo isn’t that hard

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It’s just ult, prowlers, Q W E Q

stark trail
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i dont mean the main one

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i mean the weir chinese combos that u cant even see her never

plush pumice
sly shadow
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I thought she was very hard the first time i tried her because finger avatar BS which automatically makes me less annoyed if I get stomped by a Qi

celest stirrup
stark trail
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cant

celest stirrup
stark trail
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cuz yasuo has way more base stats

celest stirrup
stark trail
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he doesnt heal as much is that simple

sly shadow
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its your own fault if you get hit by a Q3 with it but i cant think of a lot of champions who have that much healthsteal

celest stirrup
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aatrox graves nasus nilah samira

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yone

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warwick

sly shadow
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ww has it in his kit

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aatrox too

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nasus too

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others i guess

stark trail
celest stirrup
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sett aswell with bork gore

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also yi

stark trail
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yi has it on kit and sett doesnt heal as much never

celest stirrup
stark trail
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thats like saying yuumi doesnt heal on kit, because she can build bt

celest stirrup
safe phoenix
stark trail
sly shadow
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yeah

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and immortal shieldbow with it

safe phoenix
stark trail
safe phoenix
winter violet
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I play a loooot of Yasuo and i hear people complain that he is too strong and he needs to be nerfed to the ground. I can say that i disagree cause if he dosen't win early and he is till trash pre late game he cannot come back at all.

coarse ridge
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calling bullshit on your claims. people dislike windwall. that's it.

open light
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Windwall is just a terribly designed skill that should be reworked/removed, other than that Yasuo is just a bad and underpowered champ

frail storm
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No

zenith fog
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People who call him broken dont know that he has W per 20 sec I guess

errant rover
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No, you should learn how to play against a yasuo.

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Yasuo is strong on some points but the main reason you can lose to one is by not having the knowledge necessary to survive him

zenith fog
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Ofc

winter violet
devout slate
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virgin yasuo windwall

vs

chad braum unbreakable

errant rover
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Chad braum lethal tempo

sly shadow
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i just hate how even behind he is able to beat anyone with just a mythic

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thats on me if i lose to him but the fact he can still pull it off almost every match doesnt sit right to me

fallow juniper
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how is windwall broken

marsh carbon
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i dont believe. hes only strong in low elos

tawdry niche
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E is fuckin umtaken skill

safe phoenix
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Yasuo is strong but not enough to get nerfed

charred cradle
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'YI COMES BACK WITH ONE ITEM WTFFFFFF'

plush pumice
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as an adc player, wind wall is just soo awful to face, but then again Gwen's w is worst to face

safe phoenix
novel relic
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i may be biased as a yasuo main but a lot of the people i see complaining about yasuo just don't know how to play against him

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they'll press r at the most predictable time when i have windwall up and think it's broken

safe phoenix
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just in some matchup Yasuo is just boring to face

charred cradle
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the champion is garbage as a DPS in lategame when marksmen do the same thing from 5x his range

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while arguably dealing even more than him

safe phoenix
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and if he get close enough he win most of the time

charred cradle
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yasuo doesn't have minions to spam dashes at baron/dragon pits and his windwall is still able to be played around

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he only really gets the jump if he has setup (either you let him hit your team to get tornado or his tank engaged)

safe phoenix
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he isn't a frontlaner he need to someone to engage for him

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idk where's the problem

charred cradle
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now im confused if you're agreeing or disagreeing

stray oxide
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well thats why wukong malphite zac and many other champions were created

charred cradle
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im just saying the champion isnt the lategame teamfight god he is when ranged marksmen exist who do that job with much less difficulty

safe phoenix
charred cradle
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and hes an early focused melee carry who still has weaknesses in that early game

safe phoenix
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but he have better early than most of the marksmen

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and he still have some outplay option in late

charred cradle
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again good

stray oxide
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what we learn from this discussion :
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charred cradle
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if a melee champ was worse than scaling ranged champions who do the same job as him then he would be fucking garbage

stray oxide
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jk dont play yasuo

safe phoenix
charred cradle
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marksmen are worse in the early game compared to melee champions because they are meant to be scaling hypercarries in 5v5s where they just spam crits to death

safe phoenix
charred cradle
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yasuo is supposed to be this idea of a scaling hypercarry who spikes way earlier but to compensate for this he is melee

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with way worse defensive stats than other melee champions

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bruisers have way more health/resists at 2 items compared to yasuo

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but yasuos earlier spike means hes shittier in lategame

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because he's a melee champ in a 5v5

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which means he must be providing something and all he provides is damage

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guess what other class does the same thing

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marksmen

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and they do it from way longer range than him

safe phoenix
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Yes he is supposed to snowball on his power spike else he fall behind

charred cradle
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and they also aren't handicapped by the crit modifier yasuo gets

safe phoenix
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tbh idk were you are going, what did I said wrong for you ?

charred cradle
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im just saying

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yasuo isnt mega broken

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lmao

safe phoenix
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ok xD

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I already know that

charred cradle
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so for people to say 'PLEASE NERF YASUO HE IS OP'

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i will bet 100 usd that person is bronze/silver

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because the champ is more one dimensional than tryndamere

craggy jungle
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to beat a yasuo, just let him push, abuse his w cd and avoid his tornado as much as possible

celest stirrup
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i just hate his w

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he’s not really that bad

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just annoying

tranquil crane
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windwall should just be reworked to not be dogshit useless vs some champs while being able to completely negate others

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rly simple

plush pumice
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Atleast his W isn’t Gwen W at the end of day

craggy jungle
tranquil crane
craggy jungle
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yasuo needs his windwall

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hes too squishy

tranquil crane
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the variance shouldnt be so high on it

craggy jungle
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variance

tranquil crane
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its either useless or broken depending who hes fighting

craggy jungle
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some melee champs have range abilities

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take zed for example so no

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also if you play yasuo top you're kinda trolling

tranquil crane
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yes and its great vs zed

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i didnt say thats based on melee vs ranged strictly

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just if it lets him neuter the champ

craggy jungle
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i dont think it needs to be reworked

warm girder
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yasuos fine he’s a lane bully that falls off later on if he doesn’t have team picked for him

craggy jungle
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hes not a lane bully

warm girder
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he is

craggy jungle
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how

warm girder
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he can constantly fight take good trades and is heavily favored in lane because he’s able to stack q and kite with e

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without those he falls off dramatically in terms of pressure

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yone is a more scaling version whos aggressive every e cd while yasuo is a lane bully more early game champ with more skill expression

craggy jungle
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ok

plush pumice
craggy jungle
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i mean i didnt really want to argue with him so i said ok

plush pumice
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I mean When I face him mid im playing Syndra leblanc so I don’t mind

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When I play against him as Zoe tho…

craggy jungle
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syndra is easy

plush pumice
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I gotta get creative

craggy jungle
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you can w her whole kit

plush pumice
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I mean can’t W her Q right?

craggy jungle
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true

plush pumice
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Zoe just needs to be more creative with angles

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And she can play around wind walk

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Matchup is still hell tho

craggy jungle
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yea

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thats skill matchup

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her e is her strongest ability in her kit

safe phoenix
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imo the only problem with wind wall is that the hitbox is just kinda bugged

craggy jungle
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wdym

plush pumice
craggy jungle
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i say its her strongest ability because once she hits an e on you, she does huge damage

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its like ahri's charm

safe phoenix
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sometimes spell go through the wall for no reason

craggy jungle
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no

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no they dont

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ive windwall so many abilities

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none went thru my windwall

safe phoenix
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no need to search a lot

craggy jungle
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no

safe phoenix
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sometimes you launch spell near the wall and it hit it

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it work in the 2 way

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but I guess it's riot hitbox

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used to it