#darius needs a nerf.

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prisma spindle
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her nerfs are massive

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played her on pbe and her early game lvl 3 isn't that good anymore

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unable to execute someone like 20% hp

keen ginkgo
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This thread again

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Darius has actually lots of counters

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Hes like an adc if he dosent get fed hes fucked mostly

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Just gank his lane early game harass him under his turret and freeze lane

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If he ever gets fed idk if this works always but try not to 1v1 him (common sense) and farm, if you get enough items stick together with your team since darius is good at picking off enemies 1 by 1. If you see an enemy pick darius choose champions that has hard af CC like tf, morgana, senna, etc,. Hard cc will fuck darius up in teamfights especially when you have a burst mage like akali, etc,.

alpine spear
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I just wanna say

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that

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I call darius

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diarrhea (or diarrhea-us)

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cause he usually shits on everyone

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that's all

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have a nice day

keen ginkgo
left spade
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I play teemo vs him

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easiest shit ever

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it gets boring because of how often I can push him out of lane

wet arrow
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i need to see how you do it, cause darius beat me all the time, even if i get ganks and got kills ahead he can still wins if i don't have summoners

keen grove
round gazelle
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No.

gloomy pike
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Darius is perhaps the weakest toplaner in the game

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Pretty sure all the winrate sites are paid off by Riot to inflate his winrate by at least 10% since that champ loses to everything

wet arrow
keen grove
# wet arrow ya

imo the most important things is to not push the wave or he will ghost and kill you

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this matchup is all about wave management

wet arrow
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oh yeah i rarely push the wave before lvl 6

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only time i would do that is against a rengar top to keep him away from bush lvl 1 and 2

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evrytime i just push a little to back to base the jungle show up

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i'm just wondering if @left spade is going for on hit against darius and risking to get pulled or if he max Q first to punish him from trying to pull /stand between wave and you

raw sparrow
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just no

stray saddle
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No

little sky
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darius is who you pick as a counterpick to someone

untold nacelle
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No

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You wanna play for frequent but isolated autos

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If you auto him twice, you’re probably gonna die

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Because he can walk up to you

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Darius beats teemo pretty easily if the teemo doesn’t keep mounting the pressure all the time

untold nacelle
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Darius is generally broad in that he’s almost never the best counter to anyone but in turn is usually able to have potential to make most matchups work in some way

visual shadow
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stop letting him get fed, dweeb.

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or if he is, learn to kite, guy has all the velocity of a crippled snail

wary fern
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Just revert his R buff and he will be fine honestly

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That's the consensus I tend to see amongst the better darius players

little sky
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just give him stridebreaker hop back :)

wanton quartz
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I hope that never comes back

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Garen or Darius having a dash is so broken

wary fern
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Any jugg tbh

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Sett with a dash

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Just busted

untold nacelle
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#1005431739969192028 message

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as per

wary fern
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Can't open that

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But yea

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Revert R
And give him innate tankiness

untold nacelle
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yeah its a link to me saying that in another channel

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give his q 10% armour and mr per champ hit to 30% max

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on the blade

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and nerf the healing to 10% instead of 13% per champ

left spade
bold mica
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Speed into the backline

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Decimate the backline

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Decimate the frontline

wary fern
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darius keeps getting fed on top and in late game his unstoppable.

untold nacelle
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darius is so unbelievably easy to counter people just dont really know how

wary fern
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dude

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its so fucking annoying

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people just keep managing to fed him

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ive had so many games with an op darius

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hes kinda cranked in this meta

untold nacelle
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what role do you play?

untold nacelle
wary fern
untold nacelle
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as a jungler you can generally shut him down in a 2v1 u just have to make it very clear that they shouldnt engage before you get there

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likewise you shouldnt either

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and most midlaners do fine into him anyway

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you just need to play as a team against him

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denying his reset is always your #1 goal

wary fern
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alr

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i mean im only a lvl 31 so what do i know

elfin garnet
bold mica
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just play any ranged champ and outrange him

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positioning is everything

elfin garnet
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Provide some necessary info so I can determine if it’s a low elo situation or high elo @wary fern

bold mica
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range is the biggest pro and counter to any champ

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fundamentally changes everything about a champ

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if you are ranged and go melee into darius you die

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if you hide behind your other teammates who are melee and just slowly melt him or burst him with burst mages he is not a champ

river parrot
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I am just having a 6/15 darius on top

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and I just carried him

prisma spindle
wet arrow
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i have so much trouble with darius

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even if i use my flash ign he has too much dmg against my teeto

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kinda hard to farm against too, since his pull range is the same as my AA or very close to, his first item can be shoes lv1/2 followed by the ms item, making it even harder to aproach minions

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if he know how to manage wave he end up with 2x3x my minion score D:

wary fern
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very true, he's very overtuned. He is tanky, does good damage, armor penetration, a bleed, pretty big gap closer, a slow and then an execute. There is also practically no way to escape him if he takes ghost, the champ is just wayy bonkers.

candid dust
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darius sucks bro

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play any decent champ and fucking destroy him

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run ignite

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there are plenty of options

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play gankplank

wary fern
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and in the case that you already picked gangplank or can't play any of the champs that counter him?

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then what

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game over

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gg

prisma spindle
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u need to space darius well

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it's skill matchup whoever has betetr movement

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he can e you while you q

odd raven
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This post is cope lmao

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If you can kite him, space him, avoid getting hit by the edge of his Q

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he is basically

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fucked

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especially if a darius is playing against a ranged top laner

granite remnant
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eh darius doesnt need a nerf although numbers dont lie he is very good rn

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saying otherwise or some shit is some bs ngl

wary fern
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and yes I know I should have held q, but that still should not explain him completely fucking destroying me

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srsly nerf darius already

untold nacelle
untold nacelle
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People don’t respect it enough

untold nacelle
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Also people say he can use summs to catch up like other champs can’t use summs to run away…?

wary fern
wary fern
fresh plover
# wary fern https://imgur.com/a/IbvmXxW

engaging with q is boosted, not dodging his q (literally the only thing you have to do to win against a darius) is even more boosted my guy xD this is one hell of a bad example

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this is quite similar to the "morde is op" post. darius is quite easily killable if you keep dodging his q (in shorter traits) and just avoid being 5 stacked, don't let him have long trades in midgame. and the reason he seems to be strong in lategame is because your average tank player / engage support player will go into the enemy team, give darius 5 stacks and let everyone die to it. that is more of a player mistake than darius being op

fresh plover
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darius has basically no gap closer (i guess you mean ghost?) and his bleed is pretty much his only unique mechanic

wary fern
wary fern
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it's hard to actively react to darius E or W

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either you predict it or don't

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you misplayed on the first clip FYI

wary fern
wary fern
hoary kernel
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just play better

fresh plover
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generally engaging with yi q is not very effective since you want to use this spell to dodge all tries to conter you in a 1v1

fresh plover
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i don't see how darius e counts as somewhat big compared to other toplaners

wary fern
# fresh plover darius e has quite low range tho, you said that his gap closer was strong which ...

Its big because if you're a mele top laner, which usually everyone is you cannot go up for minions without losing a majority of your hp, yes he is a lane bully, but to say it's not strong is fallacious. Combo'd with his w it's a force to be reckoned with, just very strong. Also on your comment about dodging his q, I get what you're saying, but his q only applies one hemorrhage and heals him at most, if I get by his e, he gets 3 hemmorage stacks on me, one by e, another by a nomral auto, and another one with his w, this puts me in danger of getting executed.

cloud schooner
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Darius does need a nerf, these people are delusional when they say "just kite him"

He got wukong-tier stats rn and people are just playing blind because he's a "WHOLESOME CHAD JUGGERNAUT" soyjoy

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52% wr in high elo with a 10% PR

fresh plover
# wary fern Its big because if you're a mele top laner, which usually everyone is you cannot...

his q is his highest inital dmg output + the heal wins him most of his 1v1s.
also his gap closer is still not considered "big" which is what you said 😄 its obv that it his melees because they are melee lol. i get it if you say he is a strong laner but he is nowhere close to being broken or op in terms of not being able to play against him. the issue in teamfight is, like i said, that someone will eventually die to him or just give him 5 stacks which enables him enough to carry from a good position

cloud schooner
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This is such cope

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darius can miss everything

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aa W aa

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still win the trade

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what are you ognna do about it

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he out stat u 10-1

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champ's genuinely overtuned af and people are just relying on the same "just kite him' excuse to justify his abhorrent stat check playstyle and extremely broken stats

fresh plover
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i played darius lanes from both sides and short trades are his weakness, thats just a fact ^^

cloud schooner
fresh plover
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just kite him obv does not work on bruisers with ghost, he is not meant to be 1v1ed by adcs lmao

cloud schooner
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he's not meant to be able to 1 vs 1 'ed at all

fresh plover
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generally speaking bruisers are not meant to be 1v1ed by anyone else but bruisers

cloud schooner
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that champ can be down 50 levels and still run you down the moment u slip up

fresh plover
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thats literally their role

cloud schooner
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it's not fun playing against darius

fresh plover
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i agree

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but he is not op

cloud schooner
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he's "op" in the sense that he's extremely consistent and his weaknesses are hard to exploit

he's in the same vein as aatrox, both champs are busted, simply bedcause of their counterplay being abysmally bad rn

fresh plover
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its not fun against him and annoying af when your team is enableing him in teamfights but thats still a skill issue by your teammates not the champ

cloud schooner
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mmm

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it's just that the current meta favors long fights and darius love those

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it's either you pick something like a poke mage and try to play peekaboo with him for the entire fight

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or die the moment he gets to u

fresh plover
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yea i mean you mentioned a good exmaple, aatrox is in the same spot

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but just because he is meta doesnt mean he is op

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its just generally a bruiser meta rn

cloud schooner
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eehhh

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i wouldn't say it's a bruiser meta but a lot of bruiser champs are definitely overtuned

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Aatrox, Rhaast, Wukong are all god-tier champs that makes you wanna tear ur eyes out if they get fed

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Some bruisers are pretty shit though

fresh plover
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the game is in a spot that highly empowers bruisers = bruiser meta

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obv some bruisers suck ass

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but just the way the game is atm its perfectly fitting to bruisers

cloud schooner
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I wouldn't say bruisers are necessarily meta because long range poke is still king

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They do have moments where they 1 vs 9

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but into certain champs they're absolutely dogshit

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Rhaast into Xerath or Corki is unplayable

fresh plover
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in theory yea, in solo q adcs don't stick to their team and get abused

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sadly

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xD

cloud schooner
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True

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Still wish assassins were viable though

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Because in like low dia it starts getting hard to actually catc people out

cloud schooner
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kaisa or ez literally can 1 vs 1 most champs post 3 items

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while i'm not saying these champs are particularly overpowered

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they're definitely very meta and adc is a strong role atm

fresh plover
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ofc it is

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it is very very rare that adc is in a bad spot

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but it doesnt matter

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adcs will always cry

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period

cloud schooner
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TRUEEE

fresh plover
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ask any adc in any elo they will cry about their role

cloud schooner
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Their only weakness was that hyper mobile assassins could catch them out for mispositioning but now it's removed

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God i love 2.5k hp zeri late game with overgrowth and conditioning!

cloud schooner
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in a bad psot for 1 patch

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and reddit went upo in arms

fresh plover
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i don't take adcs that cry about their role seriously, it's been the same for years

cloud schooner
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Yeah it's just weird

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I can understand if they feel frustrated that assassins can 1 shot their champs if they misplay

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But at this point in the meta they can't even be 1 shotted, and it just feels horrible to play against a fed ADC because their only counter play was that "they're a squishy carry that can be punished if they position too liberally"

fresh plover
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Well i believe that ADCs have the biggest ego problems since they are supposed to be played around. They literally think that their role should be 1v9ing because they don't get that their team is doing 50% of the work by protecting their ass from the enemy

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and they are used to be carried on a golden plate

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so they start raging once they are being catched xd

untold nacelle
untold nacelle
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It just depends on the skill of the Darius player

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Rather than counterplay

fresh plover
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? damn i didnt know he has a unique mechanic POGGERS
the more mastery points the longer his e

untold nacelle
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???

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I meant

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Big as in monumental

fresh plover
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xD im just joking, it just sounded weird that you said depends on the skill

untold nacelle
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Not the hitbox

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It’s important

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But hitbox is a bit whacks esp on god king

fresh plover
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thats something else, but i am pretty sure he meant in size

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at least thats what i am talking about

wary fern
fresh plover
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(if you are talking about the first yi clip)

wary fern
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latter one

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also you got nothing out of your meditate that fight

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not that i really can find an opportunity for you to utilize it

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but it's worth the mention and a variable in the fight on its' own

dense blaze
untold nacelle
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there is no counterplay

cobalt axle
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1v4 chase against a jinx with passive

faint aspen
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Darius best counter is common sense.

prisma spindle
prisma spindle
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fiddle rn is blatantly broken tho ngl

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fed on darius just got a penta he uilts and one shots me while only having liandries at lvl 13

little sky
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darius is def totally fine

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he certainly isnt as fun as when stride was broken

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that was a time when you can complain about him

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people just fear when this kinda stuff happens

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idk

untold nacelle
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how do u find players like that tho XD

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legit nobody is walks into me like that any more :/

little sky