#Low rank trouble

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proven patrol
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I’d say just play the game more at this point. Adc is a role solely about your mechanical ability and lane mechnaics like pushing and freezing. You can have ok farming like 8 cs/m and it’s not the ending the world in bronze. However the thing that holds everyone back as an adc is ALWAYS their mechanical ability. You don’t have it if you are stuck in bronze. Conceptually it’s a really easy role that way

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It’s not like midlane where there are many ways to be good at mid or top

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As an adc you MUST have mechanical ability

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If you can’t attain that

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You won’t go anywhere

reef meadow
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So im in Bronze right now after climbing out of iron, i havent been a long time league player but can someone help as im a bot lane player. When i adc my supp doesnt contribute much & when i supp sometimes my adc just hides.
I know im not good but anyone want to let me know where im going wrong or should i just try a solo lane instead? Thanks 🙂

trim haven
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#beginner-chat or #looking-for-coach

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probably

bleak zephyr
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just farm , farm farm farm and u will climb

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u cant play around your supp in low elo , so just avoid random fight and farm until the real teamfight start

reef meadow
candid escarp
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doesnt matter what your support does just survive the laning phase, get as many minions as you can

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when mid game comes you can come back from anything in low elo

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just dont die thats the most important just back and walk back to lane if you have to

reef meadow
candid escarp
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good way to practice is to go in normal game and just afk farm

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the game will not just suddenly end

dim coral
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that is bad advice if u just afk farm until midgame u will lose too much, sometimes ur support will engage well and sometimes bad, u just have to follow up on the good times

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and u can always use pings and text chat to communicate to your support

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if u afk farm u will lose out on the good opportunities u gotta learn when those are good

candid escarp
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it's pointless to coinflip laning in bronze, the supports will randomly engage when they feel like it, the only truly consistent thing you can do is to completely ignore the support, let him engage and die if he wants and you just power farm till mid game

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you want consistency to climb and putting the initiative on a bronze support to know when and how to engage is really dumb

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you are thinking that getting a kill or two early matters, but it really doesnt

dim coral
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you will be too far behind if u just miss out on the good oppertunities

candid escarp
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a wave or two and a jungle camp mid game is the same as all that early game

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its not worth flipping, if you die you are behind, people perma fight over nothing in low elo

dim coral
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if u just let ur support die everytime u are behind

candid escarp
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if you go even and farm till mid game you are already 70%-80% likely to win

dim coral
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if ur just letting ur support die and missing out on oppertunties

candid escarp
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I mean have you ever played in bronze

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idk what perspective you are viewing this from

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people are bronze for a reason let the 3 bronze players do whatever they want and you just sit back and farm

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thats how you climb

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and yeah it sounds counter intuitive but nothing in bronze is logical so this is how you are consistent in low elo, 0/0/0 till 15min then start carrying when you are out of the risky territory

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grab all the resources from the map, all waves you can see and all camps

dim coral
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like i said, u will lose out on too many oppertunties

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and if u aim to be 0/0/0 at 15 then u will be so far behind

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thats why i said,, he has to learn when the good opportunities are so you can take them

candid escarp
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there is no such thing as being behind in bronze, you catch 3 waves and take a side of jungle camps and you're back even with the 5/0 adc with 50cs when you have 100

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when you check gold amounts you see this in bronze

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10/0 adc vs 0/0 adc that farms

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same amount of gold

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but the 0/0 took 0 risks and is statistically gonna climb if he does that consistently

dim coral
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if you expect that will work and cause you to climb you will be wrong

candid escarp
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I climbed like this idk what you mean

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I was bronze 5 when I started playing

dim coral
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so was i

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i was bronze 5 for entire of season 6

candid escarp
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i climbed to silver 3 (in season6) in a week just farming played top lane trynda

dim coral
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giving people bad advice just wastes there time, and besides if ur bronze u need to learn basics first

dim coral
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thats complete different lane

candid escarp
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so your argument is that you are "missing out on too many opportunities"

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?

dim coral
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you cant say to an adc 'just farm and aim to be 0/0/0 at 15, let ur supp die dont trade'

candid escarp
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that's how you climb

dim coral
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no its not

candid escarp
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?????

dim coral
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if u just never take good trades u will be so far behind

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lose so much cs

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kills

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xp

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plates

candid escarp
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its bronze

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they're not gonna do anything with the lead

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even if you lose inhib its more farm for you

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every super minion is 100 gold

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thats why people in higher elos dont take inhib early and just leave it

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and they cannot end the game if you defend

dim coral
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👎🏻

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u shouldnt give bad advice

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it wastes peoples time

candid escarp
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playing in bronze is like kindergarten, noone knows what they're doing

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you're saying to play with the noobs and just do what they do

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now thats a waste of time

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climbing is not what is "right" or "proper" because the elo is bronze and nothing there makes sense

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so you can just afk farm and carry late game because games go to 50minutes and early game does not matter in the overall picture

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if you dont get that then i really dont know what to tell you

merry quail
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afk farming only works on certain champs

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ur not gonna afk farm on a champ like renekton who falls off tremendously late game

candid escarp
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oh yeah assuming you play a scaling carry champ which you should to carry/climb

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even on support you can carry building full AP like brand or xerath

merry quail
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you can carry on any champ

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all about learning the fundamentals

candid escarp
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i wouldnt even worry about fundamentals in bronze just get out of these ASAP

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you learn more from playing against better opponents than in lower elo

dim coral
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u will be too behind playing the way you suggest

candid escarp
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if anything you will fall behind less, because you are focusing on a fundamental concept that is last hitting and minimizing deaths. you are viewing this like you are just completely passive at the tower letting them push in or something

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all you have to do in bronze is 1. get as many minions as possible and 2. not die

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when 15-20-25 minutes roll around you will be 2-3 levels and a full item ahead or more

torpid quiver
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I’ve seen way too many adcs come back from going 0/5 by just farming in a solo lane all game and then joining that one teamfight

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So I agree with the first user

viral phoenix
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ive never been bronze i started rank silver 2 and that was my lowest rank ever, but i smurf on bronze/silver whenever i wanna chill and u can easily 2v1, whenever i go supp my stupid adcs doesnt matter, i get out of the lane fed i dont play adc but im guessing if a smurf adc can always carry so can u, there is no excuse

viral phoenix
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maybe on super low elo yeah i guess

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if u go to a game with the mindset "ill play safe" u already lost lane, even big counter matchups are winnable if the enemies are terrible aka bronze

candid escarp
viral phoenix
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U learn from ur mistakes not from runing away from them , u need to learn when to punish the enemy

terse drift
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plug in your keyboard it helps alot!

merry quail
shrewd quarry
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Deadly I think you're partially right the way you phrased your idea is not quite there though

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So I think what they meant to say is that:
You should have a gameplan during your laning phase but also not play overly passive... meaning you should still look to punish and take trades when opportunities show but also you shouldn't try to force them out of your a--

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So for example into a lane where you want to scale you should prioritize not dying but you also want to take all the trade windows that are available and looking good if you have the chance so you can create an advantage and maybe snowball the lane

viral phoenix
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well even if i didnt phrased it the best way, it should be fairly obvious that u dont go out of ur way to punish the enemy that is not punish then, also do this ppl rly think that playing overly passive is a good idea to climb? XD

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well ty for clarifying a bit , english is not my 1st language

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ive seen late game bot lane win lane vs early game bot lane, how? idk some ppl do crazy mistakes sometimes

simple imp
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Some champs you want to win lane to snowball

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But some wants to prioritize farming and trades

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But in low elo, you can honestly just afk farm and wait until the enemy messes up to climb

carmine oyster
carmine oyster
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which you shouldnt really play in bronze xd

carmine oyster
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and then slowly see what you can do and what you cannot do

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instead of straight playing aggro all the time and running it down

merry quail
merry quail
carmine oyster
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carmine oyster
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as said

carmine oyster
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take it slowly especially as a lowelo player

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obeserve

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experiment

turbid crypt
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it is 10x easier to be passive in an even state

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but when the enemy makes a risk u need to act on it

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when the game is even u dont wanna be that enemy who randomly risks the game

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dont be the level 2 leona who EQs in alone and wonders why he inted first blood

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dont be the level 2 jax trying to all-in renekton with full fury

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dont play yasuo xd

carmine oyster
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thats why playing it slowly and only farming at first is good

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only trade

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when you have a clear reason to

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like enemy is missing crucial abilities

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or you outrange them and they step up

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etc

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Of course if someone is a mechanical god he can try to trade almost every time and dodge every ability/kite/space everything out hit every single skillshot etc etc

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but it will not work every time and it´s kinda coinflip

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especially as a bronze player

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You have to know the limits extremely well for that which requieres to build up the experience and knowledge slowly one by one not rushing it and going full monkey mode xD