#Should i otp darius (for rank reasons) (i am silver and i want to go gold-platinum)

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real wadi
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this

zinc gazelle
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no

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darius gets better as you climb

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because you also learn how to play him better

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the ''darius is a lowelo champ'' shit is a complete lie

zinc gazelle
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i got masters within about 3 months of one tricking him and still sorta do otp him

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really fun champ... sometimes

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other half of the time it makes u wanna pull ur hair out

zinc gazelle
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''darius is a counter pick''

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lmao

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who the fuck picks darius as a counter to anyone

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the whole point of the champ is that he doesnt particularly hard counter anyone but in turn isnt really hard countered by anyone either

zinc gazelle
nova moss
sharp rapids
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man i thought he was back

vast lion
zinc gazelle
# vast lion lets be fr

yeah honestly mate maybe a couple years ago i woulda agreed but now i would argue they dont really know much abt it beyond ''hit enemy tower alone''

frigid bronze
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I mean, Darius is good in general.

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Darius has been consistently at 51.8-53% winrate in Master+ for the last 14 patches.

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The only issue with one tricking Darius is his banrate: champ is banned literally every 4 games.

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So that’s probably the biggest issue with Darius for ranked.

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Champ is easy to play, can cheese level 1 with W, and thrives in the chaos of SoloQ so he can just perma stack passive.

prisma warren
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yes or no?

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Should i otp darius (for rank reasons) (i am silver and i want to go gold-platinum)

real wadi
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How is this serious? darius is a bad champion for high ranks as he has no hard cc and can get countered easily just like illaoi

harsh prairie
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hes good in gold

real wadi
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but

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plat?

frigid bronze
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As long as you have fun playing him

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Then why not?

real wadi
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plat ppl get better

sharp rapids
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you can play anything to diamond

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and last time i checked darius was doing good in high elo

frigid bronze
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You can play anything until anywhere to be honest

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It's all up to a skill level of player

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To be honest man, If you like Darius play him. But If you're going to play him because he's easier and good in low elo then dont

sharp rapids
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just play what you enjoy

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you'll climb in the long run if you're learning the right things

wind saddle
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champ doesnt really matter itsa bout u

frigid bronze
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Indeed

cunning night
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No

Darius is good right now but is he consistent no

Darius is mainly a counter pick atm. If you were saying to 1 trick Darius when stride breaker was broken 100% but ever since he lost that. He’s just been a niche pick and is mainly a low elo stomper cause people are scared to death of him.

You have better options then Darius if you want to get too plat.

simple hearth
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darius is rly good tho

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in plat

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51.61wr 10.1% pr over 22% banrate

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same last patch as well

sharp rapids
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darius hasn't been bad in high elo for a few patches now

cunning night
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Like I said he’s mainly a niche counter pick to other melee top laners. Cause he’s a lane bully to them.

sharp rapids
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he isn't even a niche counter pick lol, he's just been good

warm wren
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Darius is good in every elo

solemn echo
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Also most juggernauts don't have hard cc

cunning night
warm wren
sharp rapids
solemn echo
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Also in season 10 Darius was like one of the minority of cancer champs

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Nowadays so many new champs were released you can't ban all of them

sharp rapids
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should also mention he has a like 5-15 if not higher pr across all elos

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would def consider him a lot better than just a "niche counter"

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cause clearly he is a lot better than just a "niche counter" lmao

woeful hare
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Last year when stridebreaker was strong

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Riot have remove dash

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And Darius one those could use right

solemn echo
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He still has ghost, trinity/stride, big range E and flash to run people down

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And dead mens plate

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N other shit items

sharp rapids
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don't forget deaths dance

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makes him op af

old marsh
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yes

old marsh
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this isnt season 10

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darius is terrifying in every elo

sharp rapids
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darius is incredibly good rn, idk where people got this idea he's bad or a niche counterpick lol

old marsh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31eB7eCchU

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probably saw this video

sharp rapids
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just from the title i guarantee you yi is in that list

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which in all honesty they're not wrong, yi was good in high elo in 12.10 or smth like that

old marsh
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its just darius and illaoi

sharp rapids
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oh hm

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i mean still

tacit thorn
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if u dont have the level for plat u could play the most broken champ ever u will never hit plat

old marsh
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disagree

sharp rapids
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if ur silver playing the most broken champ in the game you could prob hit gold-high gold lol

old marsh
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the term elo inflated exists for a reason

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you can abuse stupidly op champs for a patch or 2 and climb

sharp rapids
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champs are known to be elo inflated, and when someone spams elo inflated champs, they will become elo inflated as well

old marsh
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just like how the darius players rn are elo inflated

sharp rapids
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coin flipping games becomes a lot easier when you spam a broken champ as well, instead of 50/50 it becomes 60/40 maybe even 70/30

solemn echo
solemn echo
sharp rapids
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it's not entirely difficult to hit plat im gonna be honest

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every season i've hit plat with practically 0 brain on

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i just play for micro

solemn echo
sharp rapids
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vlad

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literally only vlad

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it's easy as fuck to abuse scaling champs in lower elo

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currently p2 with a 62% wr and like 67% wr on vlad

solemn echo
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What about kayle

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Or anivia

sharp rapids
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kayle is easier

solemn echo
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Just as good as vlad?

sharp rapids
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prob

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if not better

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kayle is a better scaler than vlad

solemn echo
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What's the strategy to abuse scaling champs in low elo?

sharp rapids
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literally afk lane and farm lol

solemn echo
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xddd

sharp rapids
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i've been afk farming til i hit powerspike on vlad and it works every game

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it's just preference on scaling champ

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but considering 90% of games in silver go to 30, no reason to not play a scaling champ

tacit thorn
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good strat in low elo

solemn echo
sharp rapids
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proto

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ofc tho i don't think i should say the strat can get you to plat easy, plat isn't hard but it stills requires some skill

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just not as hard as ppl make it out to be

unborn linden
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darius is simple to get his goals on get stacks r kill then repeat

warm wren
unborn linden
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@warm wren avg is high silver low gold

warm wren
nova moss
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What’s this middle elo term that people have been throwing out lately? There’s high and low. Plat happens to be low just like many other ranks. Agree with @unborn linden and @old marsh

warm wren
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but you can't say that plat is same than bronze xd

nova moss
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Yeah haven’t said that, like obviously. But they are in the same category. Of course although same category the players are better in the higher tiers

warm wren
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nah it's not the same category

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I have played in both elo and I can tell you that it's rly not the same category at all

nova moss
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Both low elo, it is what it is

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We are all low elo shitters, no point in calling ourselves mid elo to feel better about ourselves

vast lion
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there is a difference

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and it’s been showing with the skill gaps I’ve seen

nova moss
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Never heard of mid elo before before last week from another plat player

vast lion
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especially with the champs I play

warm wren
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plat is top 8% at what point it's low elo

nova moss
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Pretty sure general consensus is that top 2% onwards. In my opinion it’s higher than that hence why I call myself low elo too

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Nothing wrong with it

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Oops sorry phone keyboard is weird

vast lion
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low elo = many mistakes but people don’t play off it
mid elo = mistakes happen but people either know how to play off it or they ignore it
high elo = minimal mistakes that can throw games
pro leagues = smallest mistakes throw games

real wadi
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lol my friend made this thread as a joke and now ppl talking here

vast lion
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I’m bored

nova moss
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Who conned this mid elo term? Bet money it was a plat player in 2022 to feel better because he was annoyed people called his elo low elo. Can’t be that insecure about a game. P.S. not you guys, the person who conned the term

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Any person of relevance in the ladder knows about low and high elo, any person who’s been playing this game before 2022 knows that too. Those who want to cope feel free to cope. We are all low elo in this thread 🙃

warm wren
vast lion
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I don’t think a bronze player knows splitpushing like a plat player does

nova moss
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Doesn’t mean they are the same level of player. For some reason you are conflating that

vast lion
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it’s just easier to phrase it that way bc when u say low elo im thinking bronze/silver

nova moss
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I edited it and added a bit

warm wren
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i don't think someone goes from low elo to high elo just by ranking up

nova moss
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Like for example, high dia and chally are both high in your opinions right?

warm wren
nova moss
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Are dia and chally players at the same level?

warm wren
nova moss
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Or are chally players better in most aspects?

vast lion
nova moss
nova moss
warm wren
vast lion
nova moss
warm wren
vast lion
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naw I have friends in bronze/silver there is a blatant difference from that and plat

nova moss
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Then why are they both called high elo?

vast lion
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and then even silver and bronze

warm wren
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there's a difference between every rank

vast lion
nova moss
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Why is there no intermediate elo since there’s mid elo apparently to differentiate groups in low elo?

nova moss
# vast lion convenience

Same reason why most players believe only in high and low. More convenient to categorize elos that way

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Else we would have so many different terms

warm wren
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idk why i'm still arguing with you when even Riot balance for mid elo

nova moss
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Like there’s mid elo for differentiating dia and below but there is no in between for high dia and chally. Makes no sense. Dias will get smoked by chally 99 times out of 100

vast lion
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i mean i don’t think ppl consider chall high elo

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that’s the competitive leagues 😭

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mid elo is just a term for convenience for gold/plat/dia players

nova moss
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Nah competitive is separate game. Different universe

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Totally different from soloQ rank distribution

warm wren
nova moss
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What are these terms now?

warm wren
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Riot terms

nova moss
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New stuff popping out daily yikes

vast lion
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that’s not new

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it’s been on their balance patches since I’ve started

nova moss
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Skilled elo

vast lion
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which isn’t too long ago

nova moss
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Never heard of that

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I know about skilled players but skilled elo is something completely new to me

warm wren
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but I guess you know better than Riot

nova moss
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I believe I know better than silver rioters yes. Riot as a whole no idea

warm wren
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xD

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sure

wind saddle
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i dont understnad

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what are u arguying about

nova moss
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Conversating about rank distributions

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Do you know what skilled elo is? @wind saddle

wind saddle
wind saddle
nova moss
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Me neither bro

wind saddle
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i feel like eveyrthing under d1 is shjit anways

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( me included )

nova moss
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Me too

vast lion
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we’ve said the term is just for convenience 😭 and it’s clear with the champs I do play

nova moss
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I think mid masters and below and the bar rises everyday. Gm and chally think high elo starts about 700lp, but idk so can’t tell

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According to those terms for convenience, iron is average btw

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I highly doubt that is the case. Average means there’s something below and on top. There’s nothing lower than iron

wind saddle
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well the average of players are iron -gold

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no?

vast lion
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i mean somewhat yea where a majority of the player base lies

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average is just synonymous with majority

nova moss
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Ah average of players not rank ok that makes more sense mb I interpreted it wrong

wind saddle
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its said like that so its the most simple

nova moss
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Thought it was average elo and not average in terms of player skill

vast lion
nova moss
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If we look at percentages gold is in the top half making it high elo (for convenience)

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Which obviously everyone agrees with being wrong

vast lion
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atp we are here to argue

nova moss
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I phrased the second bit badly

vast lion
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idk why ur drawinf fine lines it’s just logic and to clarify you’re plat right?

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oh we can’t send pics 👨‍🦯

nova moss
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You can if you send somewhere else then copy paste

vast lion
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large majority if the player base is g4 and below

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makes them “average”

nova moss
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But in terms of elo, where does that place them?

vast lion
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in the lower region

nova moss
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So low elo, okay

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So gold 3 and above is higher region, hence high elo?

vast lion
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mid elo just lets people know
“oh you’re playing with people who sorta know what they’re doing but they also might not know what they’re doing”

vast lion
nova moss
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So it’s as I said, to make people feel better about themselves

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Weird

vast lion
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i mean i guess but people obviously know what their ranks are and being plat is not a flex

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😭

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so I don’t see the benefit of it making someone feel better

nova moss
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Like this is what my main issue is right. There’s me calling myself low elo and plat players calling themselves mid elo although I’m higher on the ladder. This confuses me so much

vast lion
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i mean it shouldn’t really harm anybody from them calling it mid elo

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definitely not the first time I’ve heard it

wind saddle
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i mean thats a thing of perspective maybe they consider themselves as high elo

nova moss
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Doesn’t harm anyone but it is very delusional, sorry for saying this

wind saddle
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but u dont consider them oir yourseslf as it

vast lion
wind saddle
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p1 n d4 is

nova moss
wind saddle
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ye

dull bobcat
vast lion
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LMAOOOO

real wadi
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bro

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i posted that first thing

nova moss
vast lion
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I’m bored asl sorry

wind saddle
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i mean he is kinda viable in high elo if u otp him and are good with him

vast lion
nova moss
real wadi
dull bobcat
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there are better champs but if you wanna play darius go for it he is rly good in low ranks

wind saddle
real wadi
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im bronze 2

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lvl 50

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so ig i deserve to be there

dull bobcat
vast lion
wind saddle
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i swear i wish i was back at beeing gold it was more enjoyable

vast lion
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gold was not enjoyable but wtv 🗿

real wadi
dull bobcat
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but you are only silver so i recommend to play more champs aswell

wind saddle
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i played udyr with phoeni and zz rod

vast lion
vast lion
wind saddle
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they should buff deadmans btw * not the movespeed part but the tanky part

wind saddle
vast lion
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nvm ur not

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s10 here 🗿

real wadi
nova moss
real wadi
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players there are weird

vast lion
real wadi
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always polish

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spaming some kurwa

wind saddle
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euw more funny more toxic

vast lion
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^

real wadi
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oh

nova moss
vast lion
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but then European regions in general 🙄🙄

real wadi
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well me and the darius guy make a good combo in botlane always going more than 10 kills per game

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im the supp

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he the adc

vast lion
real wadi
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no no

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he dont play darius in adc

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he play kalista

vast lion
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ohhh

nova moss
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Just remember it’s not about the kills themselves. It’s about what you do with those kills

vast lion
real wadi
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i need to rank up

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i play teemo

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since ez champ

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second pick is blitz top

nova moss
vast lion
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oh nooo

nova moss
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Didn’t know what smite was and what it did, learned what it did 6 months later. Understood how the basics worked a year after I first started

vast lion
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league is a lot harder than other mobas I’ve played

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well atleast you can definitely say you’ve improved

vast lion
real wadi
nova moss
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Now there’s apps like porofessor etc that help a lot. I had none of those, was tough

vast lion
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I’m messing If youre having fun it’s whatever just nobody likes that champ other than whoever plays him

nova moss
sacred brook
wind saddle
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i dont like thhose apps cuz ppl will stop thinking about what they are doing they just copy 1 - 1

real wadi
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ye

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i had the apps

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i deleted

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and i make my runes now

nova moss
vast lion
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i use it bc it’s easier to look up teammates

real wadi
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on teemo i have

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my own build

vast lion
real wadi
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on other champs i google the runes

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and stuff

vast lion
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so they’re just have something to use

nova moss
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I downloaded blitz once, uninstalled it 7 minutes later because it was auto changing my runes and when I’d edit them it set the one on the app again

vast lion
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yea that’s annoying

real wadi
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use

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the push all thing

vast lion
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i was on a friends computer and it auto changed my runes too LOL

real wadi
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facecheck

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one

nova moss
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Pc was old and I couldn’t remove auto import

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Got a laptop about 2 years ago, all good now. Untainted from league app 😇

real wadi
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can yall

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see my

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games rq

nova moss
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I can in about 20-25 minutes

real wadi
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alr

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i can send op.gg link right?

nova moss
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Yep

real wadi
nova moss
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Which game?

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@real wadi

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I have an acc on eune so I can watch the vod

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You are not farming nearly enough, like I'm assuming you spend most of the game running towards players when you see them. Keep in mind that to win the game you need resources, you need to secure them for yourself and for your team and also deny them to the enemy team. The more cs you have, the more gold and exp you have which in turn makes you stronger.

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Games are from too long ago so don't have vods for them

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I'm a fellow jungler myself

real wadi
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any game

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i just want to know my faults

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so thanks

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ye i never take rocks

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i do

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sometimes

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but

nova moss
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not only those, other camps in general, you rarely take jungle but you play champions that gain value from taking jungle

real wadi
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most of the times no

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mhm

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true

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im such a bronze

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xd

nova moss
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We've all been there, no worries

real wadi
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what rank are u?

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wow

nova moss
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🙂

deft yoke
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darius in silver is kinda shit right now

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from my perspective

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I main him

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and during stride and just after it

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he was a god

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dura patch made him not as great and he actually has more unfavorable top conditions

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he also has the issue of needing to go damage first 1-2 items or he loses any dominance

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if the enemy doesn't fear you for being just darius, you will run into a lot of supports who can keep you at bay often

prisma warren
old marsh
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100% bait i refuse to believe otherwise

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not even gonna say anything

woeful hare
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Choose to fight voli

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Then Darius

golden spear
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yes

golden spear
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durability literally made him broken are u joking

zinc gazelle
zinc gazelle
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darius is not a low elo champ

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he just has really different dynamics as you climb

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--> in low elo people dont know how to play against him but people also dont know how to play him

in high elo, people know how to play against him but also know how to play him

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but yeah @prisma warren deffo go for it ive been a darius otp for a while now and generally really enjoy him

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if u want advice or something then id be happy to give

prisma warren
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okay

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i need some advice when playing against champions like illaoi

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and yasuo

unborn linden
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yasuo generally hard loses to darius as he can't compete in a fight against him and illaoi for the most part as a universal matchup mechanic is that she's useless if she misses e

zinc gazelle
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always

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and then you just kinda flat out win

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and yasuo is also fine usually as you win pre 6 and then post 6 you can usually stop him from ulting by e'ing him during the knockup

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tho ofc that doesnt work if he eqs you

shy pond
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otp is probs best way to climb out of low elo

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but play what u find the most fun

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thats the best way to climb ( as long as the champ isnt like 44% winrate )

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trynd is really good aswell since it can 1v9 probably easier than darius can

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trynd > darius imo

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and split pushing in low elo is really OP, thats why champs like yorick are #1 winrate top

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and trynd is probably easier overall aswell

simple hearth
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darius with ghost reset in a teamfight is gg

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ive never seen a trynd have the dmg to kill 5

shy pond
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because there different champion designs

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trynd isnt a teamfighter

simple hearth
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if you cant kill 5 how is it 1v9?

shy pond
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its really good at getting a massive lead and having the option splitpush,roam invade etc

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trynd is also much better at invading

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and farming

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and also much better at killing ADC's

simple hearth
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trynd is better at going 1 for 1 but darius is more 1v9

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not sure why you bring up trynds ability to macro when that doesnt determine 1v9 usefulness

shy pond
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how does it not determine its usefulness?

simple hearth
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darius pentakilling with a ghost reset is more 1v9 than trynd farming the map and killing 1-2 in a tf before dying

shy pond
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how do you know trynd wont get a pentakill?

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what ur saying is like, the best case scenario ?

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best case scenario for trynd is to get pentakill?

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like ?_?

simple hearth
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we are talking abt what the champs are better at no?

shy pond
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both champs are good i never said darius wasnt?

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i just gave my opinion

simple hearth
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you said trynd is more 1v9

shy pond
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in my opinion

simple hearth
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so i ask how hes more 1v9

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and you say farming

shy pond
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you have more of an option in games

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darius is more limited

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less mobility

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also probably a harder champion to play mechanically aswell

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and also you need to actually reset your ult everytime in a teamfight to be effective

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and you also need to get a kill first to get your passive stacks up

simple hearth
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you can proc 5stack passive without killing someone

shy pond
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still hard to do when enemy has 6/0 adc, fed mid and jng

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'1v9'

simple hearth
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and how ahead are u for this?

shy pond
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splitpushing is always more effective low elo if you play it good

shy pond
simple hearth
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so ur scenario is ur unable to get ahead early as darius and yet as trynd you think you would be able to have weaker early and still be allowed to split freely and farm the map

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and control the game

shy pond
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why would trynd have a weaker early

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if enemy top is being cringe and sitting under tower

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you can tower dive easier

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you can roam easier

simple hearth
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?

shy pond
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you can invade easier

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all as trynd

simple hearth
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trynd is like most diveable toplaner in the game pre6

shy pond
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pre 6 is like first 7mins

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so

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little time to do that.. ?

simple hearth
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what do you think earlygame is

shy pond
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also trynd is just statcheck champ more-so than darius

simple hearth
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trynd has more issues sticking

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whats ur point

shy pond
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how does he?

simple hearth
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because darius has lockdown?

shy pond
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if anything darius has more problem sticking?

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so does trynd?

simple hearth
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?

shy pond
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and trynd you cant really dodge his W

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you can easily dodge darius E

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or miss it

simple hearth
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as trynd ur constantly requiring that the backline doesnt have flash or galeforce or peel

shy pond
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same with darius?

simple hearth
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darius is good frontline and he can play front to back

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and if you have ghost reset doesnt rly matter if adc has gale or flash etc

shy pond
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same with trynd?

simple hearth
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trynd front to back sucks

shy pond
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i was replying to ur 2nd msg

simple hearth
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ur method of getting a ghost reset as trynd is killing the person you would need it for

shy pond
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you have way more mobility than darius

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so much easier to kill a squishy to get reset

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if you dont kill someone before the ghost runs out then its probably doomed fight anyway

simple hearth
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for trynd ya thats doomed fight

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not darius

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as he has more opportunities in those fights where default ghost duration doesnt let you insta get onto the backline

shy pond
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both champs are good champs

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i just said imo trynd > darius

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i never said darius is bad

simple hearth
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u said trynd 1v9s easier

sudden quest
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first learn other champs because learning toplane matchups is fundamental and you will know what abilities they have, how u counter them and if you should play aggressively or passive, after knowing kinda every matchup you can be an otp

silent hazel
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you can otp darius up to whatever rank you want

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champ is very powerful

solemn echo
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Alone the skill diff from Masters to top tier Challenger is ENORMOUSLY big

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A new player who is willing to learn and improve can get to plat in 3-4 months easily, an older player who fixes his mistakes from bronze to plat even in 2 months or less

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But a Masters hardstuck very often needs like 2 years to hit Challenger

solemn echo
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wouldnt bet my money on it

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Btw when some people categorise high plat/low dia as mid elo I don´t mind it

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Kinda whatever

unborn linden
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the difference between gm and challenger is bigger than iron to masters

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it's taking the best players from a region of millions of people

prisma warren
old marsh
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gm and challengers sometimes get in the same lobby

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iron and gold dont let alone iron and masters

warm wren
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why hire a lot of people that studied for year when some random know what to do wtf

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they should just hire you

wind saddle
solemn echo
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so they may be good categorisation for businessmen for example who aren´t gamers

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but want to understand the game somewhat

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or similar people

solemn echo
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Riot doesn´t acknowledges control mage class for example

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they´re all either burst or battle

wind saddle
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ye but they dont care about that shit 2

solemn echo
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exactly why should they

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they make categorisation for outsiders who aren´t gamaers

wind saddle
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league is really bad for new ppl its more orientated on players already playing

solemn echo
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which is ok

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but that doesn´t mean you need to look at that 100% as someone who highly engages in the game specifically itself

real wadi
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ye

nova moss
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Well said @solemn echo

deft yoke
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so for people saying darius is good rn

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what is first items

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like first items into what item to rush

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stride is ok unless they go armor boots and rush bramble

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then you do nothing

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I guess hull makes you stupid but you lose out on team fighting

wind saddle
deft yoke
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I just went tri into deadmans

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went 25-2

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its absurd

wind saddle
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ye the problem i have with deadmans is that its uber inefficient

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its like 73% gold efficient and ye that sucks

zinc gazelle
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stridebreaker is a solid choice into more ranged/kite based comps or if youre behind

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i mean stride is also fine if ahead but triforce usually feels better

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steraks and dead mans/fon is usually the rest of ur core but dd is a solid pickup second too but i would only recommend it if ur fed and playing into a comp where you can consistently perform

deft yoke
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yeah yeah hmm hmm

old marsh
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and he usually goes ghost

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so boots wouldnt do anything

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if you rush tabis bramble against darius not a lot will happen

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you will still die extremely fast if you fight him

solemn echo
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Since you still get the health, health regen and your base damage is extremely high

wind saddle
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ye but health alone isnt he stat that he only needs so it would be quit inefficient still

solemn echo
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more effective than on other champs in teamfighting at least

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you can always build resistances on top of the health

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to become very tanky

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and once your teammates go back/die and you stay alone you get the resistances from hullbreaker you will be an absolute menace

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or if you rotate back to sidelaning

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and sidelaning/splitpushing as a toplaner is OP rn

frigid bronze
solemn echo
frigid bronze
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because what darius does when side laning is that he crashes waves look to rotate and force plays with numbers advantage

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so unless you're a trundle who rly,rly wants to demolish towers and let his team fight favorable fights you may just want to rotate and secure some kills

glossy osprey
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hullbreaker darius was op when hullbreaker was op last summer

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darius is a skirmish god anyway

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most high elo players like rhoku say he is strongest at level 9-13 as you will have max Q and in the middle of that range you get rank 2 ult

frigid bronze
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yeah but back then even kayle top went hullbreaker XD

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it was purely hullbreaker meta

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like you had quinn with hullbreaker

glossy osprey
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yes that just proves my point that hull was broken not darius

solemn echo
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remember vayne top with hullbreaker KEKWlaugh

frigid bronze
glossy osprey
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if you go triforce darius you roll over towers too

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sheen is prettttttty gooooooooood

solemn echo
glossy osprey
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yeah but its not hullbreaker making him strong

frigid bronze
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he is broken right now but you don't want to go hullbreaker atm

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I think you want to go hullbreaker darius 1 out of 80 games

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or 100

glossy osprey
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its death dance / maw which are broken as shit with his passive bonus AD feeding their ratios

frigid bronze
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it's rly not reliable

solemn echo
glossy osprey
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uh

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wat

frigid bronze
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deaths dance I do agree the survivabilty it gives to darius is pretty bonkers but maw is kinda mehhhh depends on comps

glossy osprey
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maw is decently good rn

frigid bronze
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it's not rly a must on darius tho

solemn echo
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just go force of nature

glossy osprey
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again because darius passive boosts maw’s boosts

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yea but when u need that shield its poggers

solemn echo
glossy osprey
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darius passive at 5 stacks gives fuckton of bonus AD

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see where this is going?

solemn echo
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makes sense

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thats the same with riven ult right ?

glossy osprey
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if darius 5stacks someone either by 5 hits or an ult reset and then the maw pops

solemn echo
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it gives fuckton of bonus AD aswell

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when you proc maw in ult

glossy osprey
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he will get a bigger shield than if he didnt have his passive

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yes riven does the same thing with her ult

frigid bronze
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yh but maw is a situational item it can be bonkers in certain team comps

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not always tho

glossy osprey
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boosts her shield and death dance and maw/steraks

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oh yea like i said

frigid bronze
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Darius is also strong right now just because of how riot's patches have been imo like him being able to survive more and enemy surviving more benefits him

glossy osprey
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if ur against like 3 ap

solemn echo
frigid bronze
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like if darius wins the extended fight both people surviving longer isn't rly a problem kekW

glossy osprey
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u are trolling not to buy maw against them as darius

glossy osprey
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with lifeline

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actually wait soz im trolling

solemn echo
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I know but I dont see riven players building it

glossy osprey
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steraks shield is bHP

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forget i said anything

solemn echo
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thats why then xD

frigid bronze
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honestly you guys do realize that

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darius can go mythic into full tank

solemn echo
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yes

frigid bronze
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with steraks and soak up global dmg

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while one shotting squishies

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yes?

solemn echo
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he has extremely big base stats

glossy osprey
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yeah this isnt new

solemn echo
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already said

glossy osprey
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he builds damage core items and builds defenses after so he can survive as an immobile death machine

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like triforce > DD > maw > tank items (dmp FON etc) is a common order for darius

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the first 3 items give him a balance of health damage and resists

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last 2 + boots give him more defenses to survive long or big fights

solemn echo
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I even saw darius players swap boots for boots of swiftness midgame

glossy osprey
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im not counting summoners because he can use the common 4 decently

frigid bronze
glossy osprey
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yes thats good too

frigid bronze
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which overall is a good replacement to MAW in most scenarios

glossy osprey
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into AD

frigid bronze
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it's good into AD and hybrids

solemn echo
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or enemy has only 1 AP

glossy osprey
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steraks instead of maw

frigid bronze
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you can legit go steraks any game and not be wrong if you're unsure kekW

deft yoke
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ye

zinc gazelle
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just because he can run a bit faster doesnt account for how easy it is to kite him

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old stridebreaker helped with it but he was hardbound to it

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now you can legit just right click away from him

woeful hare
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When Darius have gapclose XD

zinc gazelle
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who the fuck goes maw on darius

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base core for darius is still triforce/stridebreaker steraks dead mans or vice versa

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deaths dance is good if youre ahead and in a game where you can consistently perform

woeful hare
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What if i see maw Darius

zinc gazelle
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otherwise you are usually better off with other things

zinc gazelle
woeful hare
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Tho should take fon first

old marsh
zinc gazelle
old marsh
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build it on anyone

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who's gonna stop you

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certainly not the mages

zinc gazelle
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Fair enough

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Just make money

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Fuck being poor

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Jsut get good at the game

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So good they need to make a rank 0 just for you

old marsh
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real shit

zinc gazelle
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💯

old marsh
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top 1 challenger should get their own rank

solemn echo
zinc gazelle
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Like yea no shit if he flashes or ghosts on you you’re fucked

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To an extent ur right bht Darius is so easy to kite when ur not alone

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Unless ur team comp is fucked

solemn echo
solemn echo
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but darius will not be alone either

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and will move with his own adc/control mage whatever

zinc gazelle
solemn echo
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ghost is 210 sec ?

zinc gazelle
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Yeah

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They changed it

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A while ago

zinc gazelle
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You can usually fuck Darius by literally just killing him

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Ppl try to overcomplicate things

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Just right click and you win

solemn echo
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in that time enemy adc/mage can kill you aswell if he positionated well

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or he flanks on your frontliner and heals himself

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A lot of Darius players I see in teamfights stay far back and when someone else engages then they follow up and get triple kill or similar

zinc gazelle
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Sometimes flanking works too but

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U can’t rlly tank shit

unborn linden
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most champs don't win long trades vs him

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or all ins bc he has the giga ad steroid passive and r

solemn echo
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Especially if a lot of Darius players build half tank

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but ofc you don´t facetank everything 1v5

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but if your team has no frontliner you can peel for adc/mage etc

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More than any other bruiser

old marsh
unborn linden
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morde's peel is mostly clicking r

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and darius as a juggernaut is able to tank pretty good dmg

unborn linden
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steraks deadmans

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stats af

glossy osprey
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its also cheap as balls

zinc gazelle
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Maybe if you went some funky DD Maw Cleaver shit just stacking bare AD then you could make a case sometimes but generally it isn’t

deft yoke
wind saddle
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whats t hat supposed to mean

unborn epoch
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otp rammus or yi

wind saddle
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where does that come from

deft yoke