Mythic items should be removed | r/leagueoflegends | Page 1

tepid zephyr Jun 20, 2022, 5:29 AM

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I disagree, every season they bring in cool/new items and there will always be people who are nostalgic about the old items, like yourself.
Do I miss hextech gunblade & banner of command? Sure, but I think Riot is doing a good job with itemization and next season there will be someone making a post about an item from season 12 that they miss.

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And there are a few Champions that do not require a mythic item, such as Ezreal which is pretty creative

humble fulcrum Jun 20, 2022, 5:32 AM

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I think there were mainly three reasons for the Item Rework Overhaul

To create a more diverse mythic options for all champs in the game
To create an easy to understand build choice to make it easier for anyone to learn
To revamp or delete items that were dated

While I think they failed on point 1 to an extent. I don't think of it as a bad thing,
I feel like most players don't mind building the same mythic every game.
As for point 2, Riot did an amazing job. A lot of my new player friends can easily
understand what to buy without having to check op.gg. I can know what to build when playing a new champ as well.
I think point 3 is controversial but a lot of these dated items, really doesn't impact the majority of the playerbase.

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You don't have to agree on points 1 and 3, but I think point 2 is the main reason why I really love the new mythic system

gleaming burrow Jun 20, 2022, 5:34 AM

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mythics have funneled a lot of champs into one sole option basically
some non-mythics are good and offer alternatives like nashors
but overall id say mythics are fallign short

tepid zephyr Jun 20, 2022, 5:34 AM

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I agree with #2
I have never met a new player that was frustrated about build paths, especially since this is all they know.
And they can always just download an in-game app such as blitz that auto import runes and builds

humble fulcrum Jun 20, 2022, 5:36 AM

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Point 1 - “no champion chooses the same mythic in 75%+ of games.” was the stated goal

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But I think riot realized how hard it was to perfectly balance all 160 champs to hit this goal

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nor was it nesseacry

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Also one thing I am wondering, but was build choices that much diverse in previous seasons? I only played 1 season with old items

tepid zephyr Jun 20, 2022, 5:38 AM

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I think build choices have become less and less diverse over the years, but I think that's because of sites such as op.gg and u.gg because they show you optimal builds, and players look up optimal builds because they want to win

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This applies to most champs, but not all champs

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just play a champ that doesn't build mythic first item. Problem solved

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I am a Senna main and I do not build a mythic first item

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Second

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Also ezreal sometimes doesn't even build a mythic

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look up ezreal on probuilds and most pro's are not building any mythic on ezreal atm

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Also, I still play AD Twisted Fate from time to time, so creative/fun builds are not dead

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Nothing is more fun than having max attack speed throwing a deck of cards at someones head

humble fulcrum Jun 20, 2022, 5:43 AM

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Also Riot used to strive for point 1, until they realized that most players

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don't really care about build diversity

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If players see that one item build pathis broken

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they will just spam it

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It doesn't even have to be the most broken

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If it's the most popular

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Players just spam it

tepid zephyr Jun 20, 2022, 5:44 AM

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Yeah, as a Senna main I am going to build an Eclipse every game and I really don't care lmao, all I care about is that LP

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Most players don't get mad that they do the same champion build like 90% of the time

compact coral Jun 20, 2022, 5:45 AM

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I just miss RoA

tepid zephyr Jun 20, 2022, 5:46 AM

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I literally smurf in D2 with AD TF lol

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humble fulcrum Jun 20, 2022, 5:47 AM

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Also for Senna, she has one of the most diverse build paths in the game
you can disagree but all 4 mythic items are viable on Senna
But still 66% of the playerbase will still go the most popular build

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despite having so many options

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Players don't want diversity

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is the point

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But if you do, it's still there

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being underrated and underused

tepid zephyr Jun 20, 2022, 5:48 AM

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You are not sure how that relates to your point when you just stated that "over here in higher elo its getting stale and very much annoying" and I just proved to you it doesn't have to be?

gleaming spade Jun 20, 2022, 5:48 AM

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tepid zephyr You are not sure how that relates to your point when you just stated that "over ...

Those are two different opinions. I'm glad you're having fun but thats not in my case.

humble fulcrum Jun 20, 2022, 5:49 AM

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that play off meta builds

tepid zephyr Jun 20, 2022, 5:49 AM

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I recommend playing an off-meta but viable champion if you are getting bored with the basic builds

humble fulcrum Jun 20, 2022, 5:50 AM

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And there is so much more d2+ players that play off meta that aren't even covered by this youtuber

tepid zephyr Jun 20, 2022, 5:50 AM

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humble fulcrum https://www.youtube.com/c/HappyChimeNoises

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humble fulcrum Jun 20, 2022, 5:50 AM

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They grew out of it ig

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idk I feel like jdog and i have proved that

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build diversity is still alive

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and i just feel like you got bored of the game

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not because of the item rework

tepid zephyr Jun 20, 2022, 5:53 AM

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And if you could stack things like Sunfire + Frostfire gauntlet, I think the game would become a little broken and everyone would just spam these ridiculous broken builds

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Maybe you will find this interesting

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I have no interest but

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past ledge Jun 20, 2022, 6:31 AM

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I think mythic items should remain since they are the core of a build

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For example, I can build immortal shieldbow for survival or eclipse for more dps

humble wave Jun 20, 2022, 12:53 PM

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i dont think the item rework was nededlike the total new system

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it took them ages to balance them

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i think getting new items and removing some wouldve been enough what i didnt like was zz rod

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i miss iut

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real badly

subtle zenith Jun 20, 2022, 5:15 PM

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OLD ITEM system was better

humble wave Jun 20, 2022, 5:37 PM

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but new items / rework of some was needed ngl

subtle zenith Jun 20, 2022, 5:47 PM

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only new items which I found nice are new guinsoo, mandate, crown, Eclipse, Trinity, Umbral Glaive, Serpents Fang and Serylda, which is 6 new items and rework of 2

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I dont like new jungle items, new heroes

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from new heroes I like Viego and Renata

humble wave Jun 20, 2022, 6:03 PM

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ah the champs been worse since s10 thats another thing

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i dont like crown or sunderer and ldr is too cost efficient i think but other than that idk right know

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new dd is better by far old one was broken af

subtle zenith Jun 20, 2022, 6:11 PM

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old hydras, tiamat, old trinity, gunblade

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these items

humble wave Jun 20, 2022, 6:12 PM

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what are with those

subtle zenith Jun 21, 2022, 10:09 AM

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I forgot to add that these items were better than current one

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Also Athene

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Was good

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I think old items were like you could skip some in builds and you were still strong

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Now you have to buy mythic cuz of his effect and passive effect per next item

humble wave Jun 21, 2022, 1:47 PM

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i mean mythic is like a the meta items back then u would back then rarely see a bruiser without blackcleaver

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and some champs buy mythics lter on

obsidian willow Jun 21, 2022, 2:24 PM

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50/50 because I both enjoyed going 5 ie on twitch and the variety mythic brings to the game

humble wave Jun 21, 2022, 2:28 PM

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i felt like old items had variety aswell but going something off wasnt normal

subtle zenith Jun 21, 2022, 2:56 PM

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Now items are forcing you to go mythics or you lost

humble wave Jun 21, 2022, 3:02 PM

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not rly the mythics are just built to be the best choices

humble fulcrum Jun 21, 2022, 4:24 PM

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subtle zenith Now items are forcing you to go mythics or you lost

I feel like most people don't care about rushing mythic

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I really like how for some champs, there are choices on what type of mythic you want to go

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And then there are choices on what type of legendary item you want to go

#Mythic items should be removed